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November 10, 2015, 04:09:13 AM
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Its done.

http://www.goflap.io/download/4000300/flappycoin-qt.zip

Windows only at the moment. We need to get someone to compile it for Mac, so if anyone knows someone.....

4.0.3.0 Source https://github.com/FlappycoinDEV/flappycoin

YOU MUST RE-SYNC THE BLOCKCHAIN. This is rolling back to block 700k due to the damaged chain after the previous PoS implementation.


Can you tell me who did the PoS this time?

Same dev. Griffith. Testing shows its staking and sending transactions back and forth without problems, so we'll see how it does.

Ok thanks, I'll give it a test.
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November 10, 2015, 07:43:24 AM
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Explorer https://chainz.cryptoid.info/flap/ updated & resynch'ed

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November 10, 2015, 11:03:05 AM
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thanks, i will try too.

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November 10, 2015, 11:34:26 AM
Last edit: November 10, 2015, 12:03:19 PM by chefbauer
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syncronizing is very slow, when done i can setup an additional fast node, is there a quick-howto for this?

EDIT:
tried to setup a node (its only a open wallet!?) on a windows machine (vhost, 24x7 online) with gigabit connection (europe).

IP: 46.105.129.29
Port: 11556

hope it helps Smiley

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November 10, 2015, 06:01:10 PM
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if you find you arent staking and you dont know why, you might have to go to help -> Debug window -> console and type "setgenerate true" without the "" at the bottom

although this shouldnt be required...


syncronizing is very slow, when done i can setup an additional fast node, is there a quick-howto for this?

EDIT:
tried to setup a node (its only a open wallet!?) on a windows machine (vhost, 24x7 online) with gigabit connection (europe).

IP: 46.105.129.29
Port: 11556

hope it helps Smiley

thats because there were only like 2 or 3 wallets on the network, more wallets sycned should mean faster sync speed
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November 11, 2015, 07:31:54 AM
Last edit: November 11, 2015, 02:32:29 PM by Doom4535
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So, according to this (https://chainz.cryptoid.info/flap/#) at the time of posting we're at block 700442 and that is supported by my peer connections.  My wallet says that it is on block 700442, yet still thinks it is 13 hours behind?  How do we counter the slow network when there may be long periods of time when no blocks were created (which I'm assuming causes the wallets to think they are behind?)?

*edit: well, checked this morning and it is now up to date

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November 11, 2015, 08:15:58 AM
Last edit: November 11, 2015, 10:42:40 AM by chefbauer
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The "setgenerate" default value is false, set to true and it does stake and i can send and receive with confirmations Smiley

i only have a problem with lost 900.000.000 flappys but what matters Wink
i will try to solve this later. EDIT: found them Smiley (extracted from damaged wallet)

thanks in the meantime for the work!

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November 11, 2015, 04:29:58 PM
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*edit: well, checked this morning and it is now up to date

yes because of me. 30x staking about every 30 seconds, then again nothing.
it looks like it works for some time when someone opens his wallet first time for staking, but it looks like it works only one time. or with a big gap, letzts see tomorrow.

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November 11, 2015, 04:57:12 PM
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So, according to this (https://chainz.cryptoid.info/flap/#) at the time of posting we're at block 700442 and that is supported by my peer connections.  My wallet says that it is on block 700442, yet still thinks it is 13 hours behind?  How do we counter the slow network when there may be long periods of time when no blocks were created (which I'm assuming causes the wallets to think they are behind?)?

no, its not because they think they are behind. the code of a wallet doesnt actually care about the last block time. the gui just shows the behind message if the last block was over 2 hours ago for the user to see the chain has stopped. people need to just turn on staking in their wallets and the chain moves. no one has staking on, then the chain wont move.

yes because of me. 30x staking about every 30 seconds, then again nothing.
it looks like it works for some time when someone opens his wallet first time for staking, but it looks like it works only one time. or with a big gap, letzts see tomorrow.

you ran out of valid transactions to stake so you stopped staking. staking just doesnt happen at X interval. it is dependent on the transactions in your wallet. when the chain stops it is because 1, no one is staking. 2, the people who are staking have no more transactions to stake
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November 11, 2015, 07:56:47 PM
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you ran out of valid transactions to stake so you stopped staking. staking just doesnt happen at X interval. it is dependent on the transactions in your wallet. when the chain stops it is because 1, no one is staking. 2, the people who are staking have no more transactions to stake

isnt the blocktime too fast? 30 seconds...

Code:
Details for Block #700483 Date/Time	2015-11-11 10:55:23
Details for Block #700484 Date/Time 2015-11-11 10:55:54
Details for Block #700485 Date/Time 2015-11-11 10:56:25

in the Readme you say: Block Time: 60 Seconds
https://github.com/FlappycoinDEV/flappycoin/blob/master/README.md

Min Stake Age: 3 days
Max Stake Age: 21 days
So when i send flappycoin to a second wallet, it will stake after 3 days, what are the 21 days, will it stake again?


What can we do? Do many transactions?


Menlatin: is your wallet open?
Griffith: any idea what you or we can do?

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November 11, 2015, 07:59:59 PM
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Ok, so would it be a good idea to split balances across several wallet addresses so that we can get a more consistent blocks?  Also does our wallet need to be unlocked to stake?  (I may have decommissioned mine for a while... I tried sending a test transaction that got stuck..., so I may have to wait a while till my coins are availible to stake (on a side note, is the delay 3 days or some other time?))

*edit: Well I see chef bauer just put the minimum wait for my stake time question.

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November 11, 2015, 08:30:41 PM
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isnt the blocktime too fast? 30 seconds...

Code:
Details for Block #700483 Date/Time	2015-11-11 10:55:23
Details for Block #700484 Date/Time 2015-11-11 10:55:54
Details for Block #700485 Date/Time 2015-11-11 10:56:25

in the Readme you say: Block Time: 60 Seconds
https://github.com/FlappycoinDEV/flappycoin/blob/master/README.md

I think the reason for the fast block time is probably because there are so few open/valid wallets up at the moment, when a wallet does have an address become availible it binges on the blocks and then we wait another couple days... dropping the average difficulty quite a bit.

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November 11, 2015, 08:36:13 PM
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you ran out of valid transactions to stake so you stopped staking. staking just doesnt happen at X interval. it is dependent on the transactions in your wallet. when the chain stops it is because 1, no one is staking. 2, the people who are staking have no more transactions to stake

isnt the blocktime too fast? 30 seconds...

Code:
Details for Block #700483 Date/Time	2015-11-11 10:55:23
Details for Block #700484 Date/Time 2015-11-11 10:55:54
Details for Block #700485 Date/Time 2015-11-11 10:56:25

in the Readme you say: Block Time: 60 Seconds
https://github.com/FlappycoinDEV/flappycoin/blob/master/README.md

Min Stake Age: 3 days
Max Stake Age: 21 days
So when i send flappycoin to a second wallet, it will stake after 3 days, what are the 21 days, will it stake again?


What can we do? Do many transactions?


Menlatin: is your wallet open?
Griffith: any idea what you or we can do?

At day 3 your coins can stake, but the max weight they will have in 21 days, if a lot of people is staking with big wallets is probable you dont stake the day 3, your opportunities growth up the day 21
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November 11, 2015, 09:56:03 PM
Last edit: November 12, 2015, 01:34:10 AM by Doom4535
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Ah..., it does appear like you have to unlock your wallet if it is encrypted to stake... Is there a way around this, otherwise a button in qt might not be a bad addition?  Although, I guess you can still go to the console and change it.

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November 12, 2015, 02:29:32 AM
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you ran out of valid transactions to stake so you stopped staking. staking just doesnt happen at X interval. it is dependent on the transactions in your wallet. when the chain stops it is because 1, no one is staking. 2, the people who are staking have no more transactions to stake

isnt the blocktime too fast? 30 seconds...

Code:
Details for Block #700483 Date/Time	2015-11-11 10:55:23
Details for Block #700484 Date/Time 2015-11-11 10:55:54
Details for Block #700485 Date/Time 2015-11-11 10:56:25

in the Readme you say: Block Time: 60 Seconds
https://github.com/FlappycoinDEV/flappycoin/blob/master/README.md

Min Stake Age: 3 days
Max Stake Age: 21 days
So when i send flappycoin to a second wallet, it will stake after 3 days, what are the 21 days, will it stake again?


What can we do? Do many transactions?


Menlatin: is your wallet open?
Griffith: any idea what you or we can do?

menlatins wallet is open hence the first 440 blocks,
and you every time you stake the trasnsaction splits into 2, so eventually it will stake every 30 seconds. so next time menlatins coins become available to stake. there will be 880 blocks from the same set of transactions as created this 440. and then the next time is 880*2 and so on. but this will take days to rack up that amount. this is if he doesnt ever send any coins. but basically we just need more people on the network staking.


Ok, so would it be a good idea to split balances across several wallet addresses so that we can get a more consistent blocks?  Also does our wallet need to be unlocked to stake?  (I may have decommissioned mine for a while... I tried sending a test transaction that got stuck..., so I may have to wait a while till my coins are availible to stake (on a side note, is the delay 3 days or some other time?))

*edit: Well I see chef bauer just put the minimum wait for my stake time question.

it doesnt matter how many wallets you have, it just matters how many valid transactions you have that are stakeable.


NOTE: the min stake age can be lowered at any time without issue incase the 3 day minimum is too high for a stake to be stakeable again.


At day 3 your coins can stake, but the max weight they will have in 21 days, if a lot of people is staking with big wallets is probable you dont stake the day 3, your opportunities growth up the day 21

your mostly right, at day 3 your coins do become stakeable again. at 21 days it means they will stake as soon as possible. so basically if you open your wallet for 1 day every 21st day you will stake as often and gain as many coins as someone who had the same amount of coins as you but left thier wallet open the whole time. if you wait any longer than 21 days inbetween staking sessions you are losing potential coins through staking because you wont be staking as often as you could be.


Ah..., it does appear like you have to unlock your wallet if it is encrypted to stake... Is there a way around this, otherwise a button in qt might not be a bad addition?  Although, I guess you can still go to the console and change it.

you MUST have your wallet unlocked if it is encrypted to stake. this is true for all PoS coins. this is because it needs to use your private encryption key (the key you use to unlock) to create the staking transactions.

im confused on the second part of your post. a qt button to do what exactly? unlock the wallet? or start staking?
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Ah..., it does appear like you have to unlock your wallet if it is encrypted to stake... Is there a way around this, otherwise a button in qt might not be a bad addition?  Although, I guess you can still go to the console and change it.

you MUST have your wallet unlocked if it is encrypted to stake. this is true for all PoS coins. this is because it needs to use your private encryption key (the key you use to unlock) to create the staking transactions.

im confused on the second part of your post. a qt button to do what exactly? unlock the wallet? or start staking?

A Qt button that unlocks the wallet (so you don't have to open the console), when pressed it would prompt you for your password and then ask for how long you'd like to stake.  Also, this might be work than it's worth, but is it possible to make the minimum stake time vary based on time since last transaction (like difficulty)?

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November 12, 2015, 06:36:55 AM
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Griffith thank you for the good explanation!

so in 1-2 weeks there should be enough transactions for steady block generation.

EDIT: calculated it: at current rate (no additional wallets, all wallets keep open) it would take 15 days. this is okay i think Smiley

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A Qt button that unlocks the wallet (so you don't have to open the console), when pressed it would prompt you for your password and then ask for how long you'd like to stake.  Also, this might be work than it's worth, but is it possible to make the minimum stake time vary based on time since last transaction (like difficulty)?

i was under the impression that there was a button to do this under the settings where the encrypt wallet options is as i have seen it there in multiple other coin wallets however this is not the case. could probably copy and paste the code for the option there from another wallet if this is desired by many. cuz y write it myself if its already done XD

do you guys want this?

and you dont want a varying minimum time for a few reasons, 1. more calculations to do and wallet takes additional clock cycles. also its kinda just a hassle since a flat rate time works fine by itself. theres also some calulation thigns with finding it thats annoying to work out... but yeah. someone in the previous post found the time it will take to get a consistant chain with no additional support anyway (nice job friend) so its okay the way it is
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November 12, 2015, 10:11:46 PM
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How well are transactions going through for yall, or are you having to process your own transactions right now?  I've got one transaction that has been pending for close to 20 hours despite all the recently processed blocks; are nodes just not relaying transactions to each other well because of the limited network size?

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November 12, 2015, 10:42:30 PM
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How well are transactions going through for yall, or are you having to process your own transactions right now?  I've got one transaction that has been pending for close to 20 hours despite all the recently processed blocks; are nodes just not relaying transactions to each other well because of the limited network size?

what block is the transaction in? cuz 20 hours doesnt mean much if only 10 blocks has gone by
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