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January 24, 2015, 04:11:38 PM
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Thanks, buddy - raised a request.
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January 24, 2015, 05:49:49 PM
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I'm going to order the 3 x SP20 bundle for $1200. One question is how do you set one up to run at 1.6 TH? I have cheap electricity, no worries there. I would like step-by-step guide, please no link to Dogie's guide for noobs, his guides are a waste my time.

It seems I have to fiddle with voltage and watts and what not, very confusing. How do you set it up for 1.6 TH each unit? I have a bunch of 750 W Corsair modular PSUs. TIA.

2x   750 watt psu's

cold room 50f or colder  or 10c

go to settings page

Fan Speed---------------------------------------------80, 90,100    test each speed as 80 or 90 can work better then 100
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Set your starting voltage no more then 10 mv under your stable working voltage (from ASIC stats page)
Start Volts Unit 1(0.58-0.80)-------------------------0.69

Start Volts Unit 2(0.58-0.80)-------------------------0.69

Start Volts Unit 3(0.58-0.80)-------------------------0.69

Start Volts Unit 4(0.58-0.80)-------------------------0.69

Set your Maximum voltage limit to 0.790 for unlimited or less for under-voltage
Voltage Limit (0.580-0.790)------------------------------------------------------------------0.79

Set PSU power.
Max PSU Power Unit 1 (70W - 288W)-------------------250 watts

Max PSU Power Unit 2 (70W - 288W)-------------------250 watts   if it works well leave it alone or crank it up to 288 after a 1 hour test.

Max PSU Power Unit 3 (70W - 288W)-------------------250 watts

Max PSU Power Unit 4 (70W - 288W)-------------------250 watts

Restart miner if rate below------------------------------------1200

FPGA serial speed (0=10MB, 1=5MB, 2=2.5MB)

ExtraFlag: add numbers: 1:no-scaling 2:extranonce.subscribe 4:no-debug 8:alt-bistword

Hostname, empty for default (needs reboot)

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Thanks for the comprehensive information! That's what I was looking for!

Dogie can learn a thing or two from Phillipma.
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January 25, 2015, 06:42:08 PM
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Code:
radio buttons:
    <input name="speed_basic_radio" type="radio" speed="quiet" id="minerSpeed" value="0" onclick="setCustomSpeed(this)">slow fans, medium rate<br>
                          <input name="speed_basic_radio" type="radio" speed="normal" id="minerSpeed" value="1" onclick="setCustomSpeed(this)">medium fans, high rate<br>
                          <input name="speed_basic_radio" type="radio" speed="turbo" id="minerSpeed" value="2" onclick="setCustomSpeed(this)">turbo fans, highest rate
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speedSettings = {
turbo: {FAN:90, VS0:.670, VS1:.670, VS2:.670, VS3:.670, VMAX:.730, AC0:1350, AC1:1350, AC2:1350, AC3:1350, DC_AMP:150, },
normal:{FAN:80, VS0:.670, VS1:.670, VS2:.670, VS3:.670, VMAX:.730, AC0:1350, AC1:1350, AC2:1350, AC3:1350, DC_AMP:150, },
quiet: {FAN:60, VS0:.660, VS1:.660, VS2:.660, VS3:.660, VMAX:.730, AC0:1100, AC1:1100, AC2:1100, AC3:1100, DC_AMP:150, },

 Huh
noticed that on a slow computer. is it hidden as upcoming feature?
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January 25, 2015, 06:43:12 PM
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Code:
speedSettings = {
turbo: {FAN:90, VS0:.670, VS1:.670, VS2:.670, VS3:.670, VMAX:.730, AC0:1350, AC1:1350, AC2:1350, AC3:1350, DC_AMP:150, },
normal:{FAN:80, VS0:.670, VS1:.670, VS2:.670, VS3:.670, VMAX:.730, AC0:1350, AC1:1350, AC2:1350, AC3:1350, DC_AMP:150, },
quiet: {FAN:60, VS0:.660, VS1:.660, VS2:.660, VS3:.660, VMAX:.730, AC0:1100, AC1:1100, AC2:1100, AC3:1100, DC_AMP:150, },

 Huh
noticed that on a slow computer. is it hidden as upcoming feature?


Looks to be the mapping for the basic settings page vs. the advanced, as fasr as I can tell not a new feature...

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January 25, 2015, 06:50:30 PM
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quiet: FAN:60 - just LOL
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January 25, 2015, 07:58:39 PM
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Is it possible to change to PSU efficiency in the formula that calculates "wall watts" ?
I know the preset one is 0.90, but mine are 0.93
If I can update that number in the firmware, I'd have more correct readouts.
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Looks to be the mapping for the basic settings page vs. the advanced, as fasr as I can tell not a new feature...

 Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin  silly me.
did not notice that button.
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January 27, 2015, 02:50:10 AM
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Is it possible to change to PSU efficiency in the formula that calculates "wall watts" ?
I know the preset one is 0.90, but mine are 0.93
If I can update that number in the firmware, I'd have more correct readouts.

0.93 is based on the official test of one unit, but of course can vary a little in reality and with PSU age.

Do an interesting experiment:  Using a KillaWatt meter test the actual draw.  Compare that to SP20 software reported value.

If we know the reference preset is .9 it would mean I would hope your KillaWatt draw would be less than the number advertised.
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January 27, 2015, 11:21:18 AM
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I do these tests constantly and depending on the PSU and(!) the actual percentage of it's maximum power draw it is very close to it.
depending on the PSU the efficiency can drop a lot if utilized under 25%.
e.g. with a 2000W PSU it's always smarter to run 2 SP20 (up to 1600 GH)
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January 27, 2015, 04:56:44 PM
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Is it possible to change to PSU efficiency in the formula that calculates "wall watts" ?
I know the preset one is 0.90, but mine are 0.93
If I can update that number in the firmware, I'd have more correct readouts.

0.93 is based on the official test of one unit, but of course can vary a little in reality and with PSU age.

Do an interesting experiment:  Using a KillaWatt meter test the actual draw.  Compare that to SP20 software reported value.

If we know the reference preset is .9 it would mean I would hope your KillaWatt draw would be less than the number advertised.

I did all that for my PSUs, that's how I came up with the 0.93 value.
Now all I need is to be able to update it in the the firmware, so its' calculations are correct.
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January 27, 2015, 05:06:19 PM
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Is it possible to change to PSU efficiency in the formula that calculates "wall watts" ?
I know the preset one is 0.90, but mine are 0.93
If I can update that number in the firmware, I'd have more correct readouts.

0.93 is based on the official test of one unit, but of course can vary a little in reality and with PSU age.

Do an interesting experiment:  Using a KillaWatt meter test the actual draw.  Compare that to SP20 software reported value.

If we know the reference preset is .9 it would mean I would hope your KillaWatt draw would be less than the number advertised.

I did all that for my PSUs, that's how I came up with the 0.93 value.
Now all I need is to be able to update it in the the firmware, so its' calculations are correct.

right now it is very close to (board1+board2+board3+board4)X1.1
just do the same and multiply by 1.07 instead of 1.1, unless it is a vanity thing (records of smallest watts, etc, but since it depends on PSU it does not matter anyway)
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January 30, 2015, 02:16:29 AM
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I am wondering if it would be possible to run an SP-20 with a single CX-750 with lowered voltage settings any thoughts what the settings would be or if it's feasible?
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I am wondering if it would be possible to run an SP-20 with a single CX-750 with lowered voltage settings any thoughts what the settings would be or if it's feasible?

yes I run one on a 750 watt seasonic

try

FAN  auto   -------- you need newer firmware like 2.6.7 or higher  if you have older firmware use 20 for the fan.

0.61  volts
0.61
0.61
0.61

0.615 max volts

130 watts
130 watts
130 watts
130 watts

should get 1025 gh at 540 watts

if it works for a few hours  you can do a bump to

0.615
0.615
0.615
0.615

0.619

135 watts
135 watt
135 watts
135 watts

if it works for a few hours you can bump again

0.621
0.621
0.621
0.621

0.626

140 watts
140 watts
140 watts
140 watts

if it works for a few hours you can bump again

0.626
0.626
0.626
0.626

0.631

145 watts
145
145
145

maybe one more bump

0.631
0.631
0.631
0.631

0.636

150 watts
150 watts
150 watts
150 watts

this is 600 / .87 = 690   watts  I consider this to be iffy on a 750 watt psu.

here is my sp20 on a seasonic 750 watt plat psu  watts at wall are 606




settings  watts are 140




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January 30, 2015, 02:28:07 AM
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I am wondering if it would be possible to run an SP-20 with a single CX-750 with lowered voltage settings any thoughts what the settings would be or if it's feasible?

most of my sp20's are on 750's or 850's..  depending on how nice the chips are, you will get between 1150 and 1280 at ~650w

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I am wondering if it would be possible to run an SP-20 with a single CX-750 with lowered voltage settings any thoughts what the settings would be or if it's feasible?

yes I run one on a 750 watt seasonic

try

fan auto   you need newer firmware like 2.6.7 or higher

0.61  volts
0.61
0.61
0.61

0.615 max volts

130 watts
130 watts
130 watts
130 watts

I go the other way and set the watts high, but the voltage low...


FAN:30 VS0:639 VS1:639 VS2:639 VS3:639 VMAX:658 AC0:183 AC1:183 AC2:183 AC3:183 DC_AMP:170

phil, what gh are you getting with only .61 volts?

mine look like this with the above setting:
Code:
sp20g - [H:HW:1261Gh,W:539,L:0,A:8,MMtmp:0 TMP:(11)=>=>=>(45,46)]
sp20c - [H:HW:1244Gh,W:530,L:0,A:8,MMtmp:0 TMP:(14)=>=>=>(44,41)]
sp20a - [H:HW:1194Gh,W:506,L:0,A:8,MMtmp:0 TMP:(12)=>=>=>(43,40)]
sp20i - [H:HW:1176Gh,W:492,L:0,A:8,MMtmp:0 TMP:(12)=>=>=>(43,38)]
sp20j - [H:HW:1265Gh,W:539,L:0,A:8,MMtmp:0 TMP:(23)=>=>=>(56,55)]
sp20n - [H:HW:1179Gh,W:493,L:0,A:8,MMtmp:0 TMP:(17)=>=>=>(42,42)]
sp20l - [H:HW:1167Gh,W:495,L:0,A:8,MMtmp:0 TMP:(10)=>=>=>(41,38)]
sp20b - [H:HW:1230Gh,W:522,L:0,A:8,MMtmp:0 TMP:(16)=>=>=>(48,43)]
sp20e - [H:HW:1180Gh,W:509,L:0,A:8,MMtmp:0 TMP:(13)=>=>=>(40,39)]
sp20m - [H:HW:1228Gh,W:523,L:0,A:8,MMtmp:0 TMP:(11)=>=>=>(42,41)]
sp20p - [H:HW:1148Gh,W:486,L:0,A:8,MMtmp:0 TMP:(20)=>=>=>(49,44)]
sp20o - [H:HW:1236Gh,W:526,L:0,A:8,MMtmp:0 TMP:(9)=>=>=>(40,39)]
sp20d - [H:HW:1240Gh,W:530,L:0,A:8,MMtmp:0 TMP:(14)=>=>=>(46,44)]
sp20k - [H:HW:1262Gh,W:539,L:0,A:8,MMtmp:0 TMP:(12)=>=>=>(46,44)]

aggregated reported from ssh:

power:  10330
hashrate: 19475




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January 30, 2015, 02:45:45 AM
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I am wondering if it would be possible to run an SP-20 with a single CX-750 with lowered voltage settings any thoughts what the settings would be or if it's feasible?

yes I run one on a 750 watt seasonic

try

fan auto   you need newer firmware like 2.6.7 or higher

0.61  volts
0.61
0.61
0.61

0.615 max volts

130 watts
130 watts
130 watts
130 watts

I go the other way and set the watts high, but the voltage low...


FAN:30 VS0:639 VS1:639 VS2:639 VS3:639 VMAX:658 AC0:183 AC1:183 AC2:183 AC3:183 DC_AMP:170

phil, what gh are you getting with only .61 volts?

mine look like this with the above setting:
Code:
sp20g - [H:HW:1261Gh,W:539,L:0,A:8,MMtmp:0 TMP:(11)=>=>=>(45,46)]
sp20c - [H:HW:1244Gh,W:530,L:0,A:8,MMtmp:0 TMP:(14)=>=>=>(44,41)]
sp20a - [H:HW:1194Gh,W:506,L:0,A:8,MMtmp:0 TMP:(12)=>=>=>(43,40)]
sp20i - [H:HW:1176Gh,W:492,L:0,A:8,MMtmp:0 TMP:(12)=>=>=>(43,38)]
sp20j - [H:HW:1265Gh,W:539,L:0,A:8,MMtmp:0 TMP:(23)=>=>=>(56,55)]
sp20n - [H:HW:1179Gh,W:493,L:0,A:8,MMtmp:0 TMP:(17)=>=>=>(42,42)]
sp20l - [H:HW:1167Gh,W:495,L:0,A:8,MMtmp:0 TMP:(10)=>=>=>(41,38)]
sp20b - [H:HW:1230Gh,W:522,L:0,A:8,MMtmp:0 TMP:(16)=>=>=>(48,43)]
sp20e - [H:HW:1180Gh,W:509,L:0,A:8,MMtmp:0 TMP:(13)=>=>=>(40,39)]
sp20m - [H:HW:1228Gh,W:523,L:0,A:8,MMtmp:0 TMP:(11)=>=>=>(42,41)]
sp20p - [H:HW:1148Gh,W:486,L:0,A:8,MMtmp:0 TMP:(20)=>=>=>(49,44)]
sp20o - [H:HW:1236Gh,W:526,L:0,A:8,MMtmp:0 TMP:(9)=>=>=>(40,39)]
sp20d - [H:HW:1240Gh,W:530,L:0,A:8,MMtmp:0 TMP:(14)=>=>=>(46,44)]
sp20k - [H:HW:1262Gh,W:539,L:0,A:8,MMtmp:0 TMP:(12)=>=>=>(46,44)]



  they look much better  then mine do.  I will switch the one using the seasonic.

 is your tmp  the celsius reading  9c to 14 c?

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they look much better  then mine do.  I will switch the one using the seasonic.

 is your tmp  the celsius reading  9c to 14 c?

yes temps are C.

as you can see, some of the sp20 perform much better then others as I let the software find the best hash for the voltage allowed in.


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they look much better  then mine do.  I will switch the one using the seasonic.

 is your tmp  the celsius reading  9c to 14 c?

yes temps are C.

as you can see, some of the sp20 perform much better then others as I let the software find the best hash for the voltage allowed in.



yeah I just did 2 and got big differences thanks will play around with it more.

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January 30, 2015, 02:53:21 AM
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Thanks Phil that's exactly what i was looking for should be able to run three off a single 20 amp dedicated circuit. I know it's pushing it but i'll fiddle with it and the kill-a-watt. You really have been doing great work on the SP-20's and S-5's and I greatly appreciate all you efforts on behalf of the community.
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they look much better  then mine do.  I will switch the one using the seasonic.

 is your tmp  the celsius reading  9c to 14 c?

yes temps are C.

as you can see, some of the sp20 perform much better then others as I let the software find the best hash for the voltage allowed in.



yes, i also find similar technique beneficial, especially if you also include auto fan.
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