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i've cranked up everything I have to full power while rental prices are this much inflated.
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But if you want to test the SP20 with the new extronance bug fix by all means go ahead, you would be doing us all a favour by testing it. Just post the results so we can have a look and be very careful. Backup the old flash build and the cgminer twice. Once on the machine and once locally. If you're unsure of what you're doing stop...I've seen alot of stuff break over the years from bad flashing and other screwups without the tech guy making a backup to re-flash. It's an $800 mistake if it goes wrong.
By only replacing cgminer binary you can not brick or damage your miner. It is now a firmware update, only the cgminer binary (one executable file) with a newer one. Nevertheless it is true that one should be careful when doing manual modifications on miners. This binary was provided by ckolivas (thanks again, Con) and is working flawlessly: https://www.nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=miners&a=1&addr=1JFUoyUSnLcrMjfq3hEBFsNLhLk5QY3vQR+1 i've been waiting to see if Zvi would implement the extranonce.sub but I can't consider it for my SP-Tech miners from a nicehash branch that hasn't been fully tested.
We've already asked Zvi to include our very small patch into their firmware, hopefully they'll include it soon. no just point your miners at nicehash and enjoy the 3x to 7x rental rate while it lasts. I got .67 btc in 25 hours. my miners (7th) should earn about .1btc in that time frame.
True, extranonce.subscribe is not absolutely required to mine on NiceHash/WestHash, you can just point your miners to our stratum servers. However, if you have a fast miner (anything > 1TH) mining with extranonce.subscribe patched cgminer gives you a bit better payouts since your hashrate is completely stable - it doesn't fluctuate when orders changes on nicehash/westhash - no disconnects from the stratum. It's only a matter of a few percents in terms of profitability, but sometimes every percent counts. |
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No you can't brick it but if your in there under a root access anything can happen. Plus you are flashing it and anytime your flashing there is a chance to brick it. Also just to let you know nicehash your S3+ extronance bug quash works beautifully on the S3+ as long as it's build
antMiner_S320141024.bin
Which is one before the latest. If people have the latest build for the Antminer you get the "hashrate nosedive of death" whether they use the new cgminer build or not. I'm going to put an email today for bitmain with some screenies and an explanation. I would advise people on your site of the new build problem because if the S3+ people flash with the latest bitmain build it basically breaks their Miner to use on your pool.
antMiner_S320141024.bin <--------Good build
antMiner_S320141126.bin <--------Bad build(latest)
When I get the SP20 today after a 24 hour burn in I will try your new cgminer build for it and post here so other people can decide without going through the hassle of testing. It does like nicehash says seems to calm the highs and lows slightly, If you only have a Terahash or 2 it may not be worth the effort but I can see it making a difference if you have a farm.
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... no just point your miners at nicehash and enjoy the 3x to 7x rental rate while it lasts. I got .67 btc in 25 hours. my miners (7th) should earn about .1btc in that time frame.
True, extranonce.subscribe is not absolutely required to mine on NiceHash/WestHash, you can just point your miners to our stratum servers. However, if you have a fast miner (anything > 1TH) mining with extranonce.subscribe patched cgminer gives you a bit better payouts since your hashrate is completely stable - it doesn't fluctuate when orders changes on nicehash/westhash - no disconnects from the stratum. It's only a matter of a few percents in terms of profitability, but sometimes every percent counts. Normally I would do it. but right now the nicehash rates are sky high due to paycoin mining. I do not want to screw up a good 1.3/1.4th sp20 until someone gets them going perfectly with extranonce.subscribe Over the last 30 hours I have been paid more then 5x normal rates. I will do the patches after the rush. |
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... no just point your miners at nicehash and enjoy the 3x to 7x rental rate while it lasts. I got .67 btc in 25 hours. my miners (7th) should earn about .1btc in that time frame.
True, extranonce.subscribe is not absolutely required to mine on NiceHash/WestHash, you can just point your miners to our stratum servers. However, if you have a fast miner (anything > 1TH) mining with extranonce.subscribe patched cgminer gives you a bit better payouts since your hashrate is completely stable - it doesn't fluctuate when orders changes on nicehash/westhash - no disconnects from the stratum. It's only a matter of a few percents in terms of profitability, but sometimes every percent counts. Normally I would do it. but right now the nicehash rates are sky high due to paycoin mining. I do not want to screw up a good 1.3/1.4th sp20 until someone gets them going perfectly with extranonce.subscribe Over the last 30 hours I have been paid more then 5x normal rates. I will do the patches after the rush. Who are people that pay so much extra for hashing? I know that you guys are giddy about it, but to me it sounds like a real ripoff. There has to be a catch. |
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... no just point your miners at nicehash and enjoy the 3x to 7x rental rate while it lasts. I got .67 btc in 25 hours. my miners (7th) should earn about .1btc in that time frame.
True, extranonce.subscribe is not absolutely required to mine on NiceHash/WestHash, you can just point your miners to our stratum servers. However, if you have a fast miner (anything > 1TH) mining with extranonce.subscribe patched cgminer gives you a bit better payouts since your hashrate is completely stable - it doesn't fluctuate when orders changes on nicehash/westhash - no disconnects from the stratum. It's only a matter of a few percents in terms of profitability, but sometimes every percent counts. Normally I would do it. but right now the nicehash rates are sky high due to paycoin mining. I do not want to screw up a good 1.3/1.4th sp20 until someone gets them going perfectly with extranonce.subscribe Over the last 30 hours I have been paid more then 5x normal rates. I will do the patches after the rush. Who are people that pay so much extra for hashing? I know that you guys are giddy about it, but to me it sounds like a real ripoff. There has to be a catch. someone launched a new cult and attached an altcoin to it. |
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... no just point your miners at nicehash and enjoy the 3x to 7x rental rate while it lasts. I got .67 btc in 25 hours. my miners (7th) should earn about .1btc in that time frame.
True, extranonce.subscribe is not absolutely required to mine on NiceHash/WestHash, you can just point your miners to our stratum servers. However, if you have a fast miner (anything > 1TH) mining with extranonce.subscribe patched cgminer gives you a bit better payouts since your hashrate is completely stable - it doesn't fluctuate when orders changes on nicehash/westhash - no disconnects from the stratum. It's only a matter of a few percents in terms of profitability, but sometimes every percent counts. Normally I would do it. but right now the nicehash rates are sky high due to paycoin mining. I do not want to screw up a good 1.3/1.4th sp20 until someone gets them going perfectly with extranonce.subscribe Over the last 30 hours I have been paid more then 5x normal rates. I will do the patches after the rush. Who are people that pay so much extra for hashing? I know that you guys are giddy about it, but to me it sounds like a real ripoff. There has to be a catch. I am giddy because it allows for a straddle move. I balance BTC and Paycoin in such a way that I can do to ½ loafs of bread for certain. My dad always told me anytime you are gambling and a certain payoff becomes possible always take it. https://blockchain.info/address/1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53VbtjeI mined0.868 btc in under 36 hours by renting my rigs on nicehash and westhash. I should have done 0.2 . this is a 0.668 free or bonus amount of coin. I cashed in .5 btc on coinbase. for 178 usd. but since I mined a total of .868 this means I kept .368 coins. with out the paycoin roll out. I would have earned maybe .0.152 coins so I have more coin and the actual cash 176 usd as a bonus. That is the first ½ loaf of bread. The other half is I am mining on the paycoin site and have about 8 coins possible worth ? 160 to 800 usd My cost to mine the paycoins is $0 . and will always be $0 (quite a promise indeed) many have put there left nut on the table based on this promise. I have fully take all my invested money out of GAW-ZEN and am only leaving the gifted fury on the line. Downside if GAW_ZEN is the greatest thing ever I will make about 10% of what I could of made. But I will still make out. SO I am giddy because I can middle out and certainly turn profit. |
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But if you want to test the SP20 with the new extronance bug fix by all means go ahead, you would be doing us all a favour by testing it. Just post the results so we can have a look and be very careful. Backup the old flash build and the cgminer twice. Once on the machine and once locally. If you're unsure of what you're doing stop...I've seen alot of stuff break over the years from bad flashing and other screwups without the tech guy making a backup to re-flash. It's an $800 mistake if it goes wrong.
By only replacing cgminer binary you can not brick or damage your miner. It is now a firmware update, only the cgminer binary (one executable file) with a newer one. Nevertheless it is true that one should be careful when doing manual modifications on miners. This binary was provided by ckolivas (thanks again, Con) and is working flawlessly: https://www.nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=miners&a=1&addr=1JFUoyUSnLcrMjfq3hEBFsNLhLk5QY3vQR+1 i've been waiting to see if Zvi would implement the extranonce.sub but I can't consider it for my SP-Tech miners from a nicehash branch that hasn't been fully tested.
We've already asked Zvi to include our very small patch into their firmware, hopefully they'll include it soon. no just point your miners at nicehash and enjoy the 3x to 7x rental rate while it lasts. I got .67 btc in 25 hours. my miners (7th) should earn about .1btc in that time frame.
True, extranonce.subscribe is not absolutely required to mine on NiceHash/WestHash, you can just point your miners to our stratum servers. However, if you have a fast miner (anything > 1TH) mining with extranonce.subscribe patched cgminer gives you a bit better payouts since your hashrate is completely stable - it doesn't fluctuate when orders changes on nicehash/westhash - no disconnects from the stratum. It's only a matter of a few percents in terms of profitability, but sometimes every percent counts. I am curious as to what kind of game you are playing? What is a basis for much higher payouts? Explain, otherwise I will consider it a long con or a simple pyramid scheme. |
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But if you want to test the SP20 with the new extronance bug fix by all means go ahead, you would be doing us all a favour by testing it. Just post the results so we can have a look and be very careful. Backup the old flash build and the cgminer twice. Once on the machine and once locally. If you're unsure of what you're doing stop...I've seen alot of stuff break over the years from bad flashing and other screwups without the tech guy making a backup to re-flash. It's an $800 mistake if it goes wrong.
By only replacing cgminer binary you can not brick or damage your miner. It is now a firmware update, only the cgminer binary (one executable file) with a newer one. Nevertheless it is true that one should be careful when doing manual modifications on miners. This binary was provided by ckolivas (thanks again, Con) and is working flawlessly: https://www.nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=miners&a=1&addr=1JFUoyUSnLcrMjfq3hEBFsNLhLk5QY3vQR+1 i've been waiting to see if Zvi would implement the extranonce.sub but I can't consider it for my SP-Tech miners from a nicehash branch that hasn't been fully tested.
We've already asked Zvi to include our very small patch into their firmware, hopefully they'll include it soon. no just point your miners at nicehash and enjoy the 3x to 7x rental rate while it lasts. I got .67 btc in 25 hours. my miners (7th) should earn about .1btc in that time frame.
True, extranonce.subscribe is not absolutely required to mine on NiceHash/WestHash, you can just point your miners to our stratum servers. However, if you have a fast miner (anything > 1TH) mining with extranonce.subscribe patched cgminer gives you a bit better payouts since your hashrate is completely stable - it doesn't fluctuate when orders changes on nicehash/westhash - no disconnects from the stratum. It's only a matter of a few percents in terms of profitability, but sometimes every percent counts. I am curious as to what kind of game you are playing? What is a basis for much higher payouts? Explain, otherwise I will consider it a long con or a simple pyramid scheme.  They aren't doing anything, all they are doing is leasing their rigs out. The people who are leasing the rigs, choose what to pay to lease the rigs and what coin to mine. All the hardware person has to do is pick a reasonable fee to charge and make sure their miner stays online for the duration of the hire period. The coin being mined may be a long con, or a simple pyramid scheme or just a POS coin, but thats the choice/risk of the person leasing the rig. This has been going on for a long time in the alt-coin world. |
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GAW (Josh Garza) has been playing an entire community of alt-coiners to believe that this coin: https://coin-swap.net/market/XPY/BTCis going to have a floor of $20 / XPY mining has begun and their community are hence, paying ridiculous amounts of BTC/TH/day to rent rigs on sites like nicehash/westhash/betarigs et al. our rigs are out for rental so that those who wish to mine this new XPY altcoin, can mine it. it's SHA256. Josh Garza has indicated that the coin is backed by $120million in reserves, however, no proof of this exists and his 'cultists' are very eager to believe this. hence the high rental prices. |
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But if you want to test the SP20 with the new extronance bug fix by all means go ahead, you would be doing us all a favour by testing it. Just post the results so we can have a look and be very careful. Backup the old flash build and the cgminer twice. Once on the machine and once locally. If you're unsure of what you're doing stop...I've seen alot of stuff break over the years from bad flashing and other screwups without the tech guy making a backup to re-flash. It's an $800 mistake if it goes wrong.
By only replacing cgminer binary you can not brick or damage your miner. It is now a firmware update, only the cgminer binary (one executable file) with a newer one. Nevertheless it is true that one should be careful when doing manual modifications on miners. This binary was provided by ckolivas (thanks again, Con) and is working flawlessly: https://www.nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=miners&a=1&addr=1JFUoyUSnLcrMjfq3hEBFsNLhLk5QY3vQR+1 i've been waiting to see if Zvi would implement the extranonce.sub but I can't consider it for my SP-Tech miners from a nicehash branch that hasn't been fully tested.
We've already asked Zvi to include our very small patch into their firmware, hopefully they'll include it soon. no just point your miners at nicehash and enjoy the 3x to 7x rental rate while it lasts. I got .67 btc in 25 hours. my miners (7th) should earn about .1btc in that time frame.
True, extranonce.subscribe is not absolutely required to mine on NiceHash/WestHash, you can just point your miners to our stratum servers. However, if you have a fast miner (anything > 1TH) mining with extranonce.subscribe patched cgminer gives you a bit better payouts since your hashrate is completely stable - it doesn't fluctuate when orders changes on nicehash/westhash - no disconnects from the stratum. It's only a matter of a few percents in terms of profitability, but sometimes every percent counts. I am curious as to what kind of game you are playing? What is a basis for much higher payouts? Explain, otherwise I will consider it a long con or a simple pyramid scheme. They aren't doing anything, all they are doing is leasing their rigs out. The people who are leasing the rigs, choose what to pay to lease the rigs and what coin to mine. All the hardware person has to do is pick a reasonable fee to charge and make sure their miner stays online for the duration of the hire period. The coin being mined may be a long con, or a simple pyramid scheme or just a POS coin, but thats the choice/risk of the person leasing the rig. This has been going on for a long time in the alt-coin world. it is NOT that simple. If you are leasing your rigs out KNOWINGLY, then you are culpable as well. this shit makes me want to sell out of bitcoin, as it will not be able to withstand another MtGox, etc disaster, which is surely coming if what are you saying will take hold. |
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But if you want to test the SP20 with the new extronance bug fix by all means go ahead, you would be doing us all a favour by testing it. Just post the results so we can have a look and be very careful. Backup the old flash build and the cgminer twice. Once on the machine and once locally. If you're unsure of what you're doing stop...I've seen alot of stuff break over the years from bad flashing and other screwups without the tech guy making a backup to re-flash. It's an $800 mistake if it goes wrong.
By only replacing cgminer binary you can not brick or damage your miner. It is now a firmware update, only the cgminer binary (one executable file) with a newer one. Nevertheless it is true that one should be careful when doing manual modifications on miners. This binary was provided by ckolivas (thanks again, Con) and is working flawlessly: https://www.nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=miners&a=1&addr=1JFUoyUSnLcrMjfq3hEBFsNLhLk5QY3vQR+1 i've been waiting to see if Zvi would implement the extranonce.sub but I can't consider it for my SP-Tech miners from a nicehash branch that hasn't been fully tested.
We've already asked Zvi to include our very small patch into their firmware, hopefully they'll include it soon. no just point your miners at nicehash and enjoy the 3x to 7x rental rate while it lasts. I got .67 btc in 25 hours. my miners (7th) should earn about .1btc in that time frame.
True, extranonce.subscribe is not absolutely required to mine on NiceHash/WestHash, you can just point your miners to our stratum servers. However, if you have a fast miner (anything > 1TH) mining with extranonce.subscribe patched cgminer gives you a bit better payouts since your hashrate is completely stable - it doesn't fluctuate when orders changes on nicehash/westhash - no disconnects from the stratum. It's only a matter of a few percents in terms of profitability, but sometimes every percent counts. I am curious as to what kind of game you are playing? What is a basis for much higher payouts? Explain, otherwise I will consider it a long con or a simple pyramid scheme. They aren't doing anything, all they are doing is leasing their rigs out. The people who are leasing the rigs, choose what to pay to lease the rigs and what coin to mine. All the hardware person has to do is pick a reasonable fee to charge and make sure their miner stays online for the duration of the hire period. The coin being mined may be a long con, or a simple pyramid scheme or just a POS coin, but thats the choice/risk of the person leasing the rig. This has been going on for a long time in the alt-coin world. it is NOT that simple. If you are leasing your rigs out KNOWINGLY, then you are culpable as well. But you don't have control over what the person leasing the rig mines, thats up to them. |
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But if you want to test the SP20 with the new extronance bug fix by all means go ahead, you would be doing us all a favour by testing it. Just post the results so we can have a look and be very careful. Backup the old flash build and the cgminer twice. Once on the machine and once locally. If you're unsure of what you're doing stop...I've seen alot of stuff break over the years from bad flashing and other screwups without the tech guy making a backup to re-flash. It's an $800 mistake if it goes wrong.
By only replacing cgminer binary you can not brick or damage your miner. It is now a firmware update, only the cgminer binary (one executable file) with a newer one. Nevertheless it is true that one should be careful when doing manual modifications on miners. This binary was provided by ckolivas (thanks again, Con) and is working flawlessly: https://www.nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=miners&a=1&addr=1JFUoyUSnLcrMjfq3hEBFsNLhLk5QY3vQR+1 i've been waiting to see if Zvi would implement the extranonce.sub but I can't consider it for my SP-Tech miners from a nicehash branch that hasn't been fully tested.
We've already asked Zvi to include our very small patch into their firmware, hopefully they'll include it soon. no just point your miners at nicehash and enjoy the 3x to 7x rental rate while it lasts. I got .67 btc in 25 hours. my miners (7th) should earn about .1btc in that time frame.
True, extranonce.subscribe is not absolutely required to mine on NiceHash/WestHash, you can just point your miners to our stratum servers. However, if you have a fast miner (anything > 1TH) mining with extranonce.subscribe patched cgminer gives you a bit better payouts since your hashrate is completely stable - it doesn't fluctuate when orders changes on nicehash/westhash - no disconnects from the stratum. It's only a matter of a few percents in terms of profitability, but sometimes every percent counts. I am curious as to what kind of game you are playing? What is a basis for much higher payouts? Explain, otherwise I will consider it a long con or a simple pyramid scheme. They aren't doing anything, all they are doing is leasing their rigs out. The people who are leasing the rigs, choose what to pay to lease the rigs and what coin to mine. All the hardware person has to do is pick a reasonable fee to charge and make sure their miner stays online for the duration of the hire period. The coin being mined may be a long con, or a simple pyramid scheme or just a POS coin, but thats the choice/risk of the person leasing the rig. This has been going on for a long time in the alt-coin world. it is NOT that simple. If you are leasing your rigs out KNOWINGLY, then you are culpable as well. i beg to differ. my rigs were already pointed at nicehash making ~8% more than btc mining rate. on the morning that the XPY coin launched, I found my earnings going thru the roof... it's entirely up to those who are renting my rig, the price they wish to pay to rent it, it works on a bidding system. the renter has control over choice of pool and if so desires, can mine any SHA256 coin of their choosing. |
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I provide a car you rent it. You drive to a place that you want to go to. You get robbed I am not at fault. In the USA and many other countries cars are rented with the above as part of the common law . The person of company provides a car that works. That is what I am doing. This gold rush to mine paycoin will not last for long. I am renting 7th in shovels to the highest bidder. BTW that bidder can mine any 256 coin. At times when the prices are lower I rent from them large th 100 or more and point at pools like www.mmpool.org |
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Just got my SP20 fired up and it is a little loud, but not nearly as loud as that POS Prisma I had. I decided to just use 2 power supplies and not mess with trying to use a single PSU. What is the maximum safe wattage to try out for over clocking? I am getting 1.6TH with stock settings.  |
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It all depends on the temps if you go into Asic Stats. Anything near 120C on the Asics and they will probably be hitting the limit of 125 and underclocking themselves.
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It all depends on the temps if you go into Asic Stats. Anything near 120C on the Asics and they will probably be hitting the limit of 125 and underclocking themselves.
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Here is where they are... I also just changed fans to 90.  |
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I provide a car you rent it. You drive to a place that you want to go to. You get robbed I am not at fault. In the USA and many other countries cars are rented with the above as part of the common law . The person of company provides a car that works. That is what I am doing. This gold rush to mine paycoin will not last for long. I am renting 7th in shovels to the highest bidder. BTW that bidder can mine any 256 coin. At times when the prices are lower I rent from them large th 100 or more and point at pools like www.mmpool.orgi've had people ask me how to setup renting out their miners, so i compiled this thread to help https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=894826.msg9849580#msg9849580 |
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Here is where they are... okay set the fan to 90 okay set the first volt up you are cool go from .69 to .699 the second volt drop you are hot go from .69 to .685 the third volt up you are cool go from .69 to .699 the fourth volt drop you are hot go from .69 to .685 then wait 10 minutes look at all the settings the idea is to get everyone at 115c then you will not warm up over time and drop hash to heat issues. |
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