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September 12, 2016, 08:32:33 AM
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Any reason why crypto-games hasn't been added?
At first because my site is a list of "most popular dice sites" and especially in the beginning they weren't very popular (compared to others.) Secondly because of the "developer handled security-bug report badly"-issue as discussed a few pages ago.

But I was/am planning to add them on the new version of my site. But the only current issue is that I don't like the technical details of the provably fair implementation. Specifically that you only get the serverseed hash of the next bet by clicking the "provably fair" tab. IMO the site should send this with the last bet result and don't make any HTTP request when a user clicks the "provably fair" tab (so the site is unaware if the user noted down the serverseed hash.) I emailed crypto-games about this last week, so I hope they do improve this.

Ps, the way they calculate the numbers/cards on blackjack/roulette/slots are actually better than almost all other implementations for those games on other casinos. Just that specific technical detail that I don't like.

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September 12, 2016, 09:34:08 AM
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Any reason why crypto-games hasn't been added?
At first because my site is a list of "most popular dice sites" and especially in the beginning they weren't very popular (compared to others.) Secondly because of the "developer handled security-bug report badly"-issue as discussed a few pages ago.

But I was/am planning to add them on the new version of my site. But the only current issue is that I don't like the technical details of the provably fair implementation. Specifically that you only get the serverseed hash of the next bet by clicking the "provably fair" tab. IMO the site should send this with the last bet result and don't make any HTTP request when a user clicks the "provably fair" tab (so the site is unaware if the user noted down the serverseed hash.) I emailed crypto-games about this last week, so I hope they do improve this.

Ps, the way they calculate the numbers/cards on blackjack/roulette/slots are actually better than almost all other implementations for those games on other casinos. Just that specific technical detail that I don't like.

We are aware of this potential issue and its gonna be soon changed on all games. Thanks for notifying us about this.

 

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September 12, 2016, 10:48:19 AM
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Any reason why crypto-games hasn't been added?
At first because my site is a list of "most popular dice sites" and especially in the beginning they weren't very popular (compared to others.) Secondly because of the "developer handled security-bug report badly"-issue as discussed a few pages ago.

But I was/am planning to add them on the new version of my site. But the only current issue is that I don't like the technical details of the provably fair implementation. Specifically that you only get the serverseed hash of the next bet by clicking the "provably fair" tab. IMO the site should send this with the last bet result and don't make any HTTP request when a user clicks the "provably fair" tab (so the site is unaware if the user noted down the serverseed hash.) I emailed crypto-games about this last week, so I hope they do improve this.

Ps, the way they calculate the numbers/cards on blackjack/roulette/slots are actually better than almost all other implementations for those games on other casinos. Just that specific technical detail that I don't like.

Appreciate the response - very thorough.

Look forward to Crypto-Games making the fix and then being added to your list  Smiley

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September 13, 2016, 05:49:00 AM
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Any reason why crypto-games hasn't been added?
At first because my site is a list of "most popular dice sites" and especially in the beginning they weren't very popular (compared to others.) Secondly because of the "developer handled security-bug report badly"-issue as discussed a few pages ago.

But I was/am planning to add them on the new version of my site. But the only current issue is that I don't like the technical details of the provably fair implementation. Specifically that you only get the serverseed hash of the next bet by clicking the "provably fair" tab. IMO the site should send this with the last bet result and don't make any HTTP request when a user clicks the "provably fair" tab (so the site is unaware if the user noted down the serverseed hash.) I emailed crypto-games about this last week, so I hope they do improve this.

Ps, the way they calculate the numbers/cards on blackjack/roulette/slots are actually better than almost all other implementations for those games on other casinos. Just that specific technical detail that I don't like.

We are aware of this potential issue and its gonna be soon changed on all games. Thanks for notifying us about this.

Could you review our code again? Client side is changed to refresh provably fair details after every bet. Thanks.

 

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September 13, 2016, 06:11:44 AM
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Really surprised BETKING is #1 compare to Primedice. I practically never heard of that site before I looked at your reviews. Its nice that they have an investment option at least.

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September 13, 2016, 08:16:09 AM
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Really surprised BETKING is #1 compare to Primedice. I practically never heard of that site before I looked at your reviews. Its nice that they have an investment option at least.

You probably have heard of them, formerly operated as PocketRocketsCasino or PRC, they ran few sig campaigns in the past, and have had the largest crowd funded bitcoin bankroll since forever.

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September 13, 2016, 08:25:11 AM
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Really surprised BETKING is #1 compare to Primedice. I practically never heard of that site before I looked at your reviews. Its nice that they have an investment option at least.
But what cathegody you have in mind? List can be sorted by parameters like:

total wagered - PD is far ahead of anyone else,
total bets - where PD is far ahead,
opening time - which is not that important as long as site is quite old,
max payout - where BetKing is winning,
total invested - where PD can't be since they don't have investment option avaiable

BetKing is not promoting aggressively on Bitcointalk ATM, nor have very active thread like PD has, so that might be a reason you don't know them.

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September 13, 2016, 10:27:27 AM
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Thank you! Very useful  Wink

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September 13, 2016, 12:08:58 PM
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Could you review our code again? Client side is changed to refresh provably fair details after every bet. Thanks.
Awesome Smiley looks like a proper "per roll" implementation now (with additionally easy/good result calculation for the non-dice games compared to other sites.)

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September 27, 2016, 06:54:42 AM
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Added a verifier for Crypto-Games.net: https://dicesites.com/crypto-games/verifier (all games)

They also added a link on the bet details of each bet to directly go to my site with all the seeds - so verifying your bets is really easy. (Although for optimal provably fair usage, you should copy your serverseed hash and clientseed before each bet is made.)



Ps, still working on new site.. guess I won't make it this month (:

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September 27, 2016, 05:56:47 PM
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Added a verifier for Crypto-Games.net: https://dicesites.com/crypto-games/verifier (all games)

They also added a link on the bet details of each bet to directly go to my site with all the seeds - so verifying your bets is really easy. (Although for optimal provably fair usage, you should copy your serverseed hash and clientseed before each bet is made.)



Ps, still working on new site.. guess I won't make it this month (:
Thank you for adding a verifier for our website!



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October 01, 2016, 04:39:46 PM
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Really surprised BETKING is #1 compare to Primedice. I practically never heard of that site before I looked at your reviews. Its nice that they have an investment option at least.

I only heard of them a few weeks ago because of a thread discussing some of the better casinos and I remember it coming up.
A nice casino. It has done well for investors I looked on the OPs site and it was like 187% so that is about %50 a year. Very good.
As long as the casino is still in business it is a very good investment.

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October 02, 2016, 03:36:07 AM
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It has done well for investors I looked on the OPs site and it was like 187% so that is about %50 a year.
Note: the percentage on my site is comparing the expected profit with actual profits. It has nothing to do with any timeframe. So it is meant to say that the players have been more unlucky and investors more lucky than expected (which is still the same conclusion as you "investors done well" Wink) Also, I don't actually calculate commission in there, so it should probably be around 200-300% (eg investors have been 2x - 3x more lucky than they should.)

Overall that statistic isn't really important IMO. It just show how much variance there can be.

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October 31, 2016, 11:03:22 AM
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Another dice site to add potcoinlotto.com

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December 01, 2016, 04:06:19 AM
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This is a great initiative.

Would be great to have a master list of all dice-sites listed that are provably fair and how long they have been operating (including their accepted crypto-currencies).


Anymore doge or clam sites?

 
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December 01, 2016, 04:10:24 AM
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www.crypto-games.net and www.bitsler.com have doge (and are not yet on my site.)

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December 02, 2016, 03:17:29 AM
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do you have a Video tutorial on how to verify your bets using your site?

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December 02, 2016, 03:43:27 AM
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Anymore doge or clam sites?

Both Doge and Clam are supported by FortuneJack.com - you won't find this casino listed on DiceSites.
You can also play there with NMC, PPC, NVC, RDD and Dash.

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December 02, 2016, 03:55:58 AM
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Anymore doge or clam sites?

Both Doge and Clam are supported by FortuneJack.com - you won't find this casino listed on DiceSites.
You can also play there with NMC, PPC, NVC, RDD and Dash.

I play with you guys already Smiley

been having issues with your autoroll though :/

keeps stopping after 20 bets.
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December 15, 2016, 08:35:23 AM
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Added a provably fair verifier for BitSler: https://dicesites.com/bitsler/verifier - supports all 4 games.

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