[ANN] [VNL] Vanillacoin Beta Pre-Release

[Digithusiast]

Really hope you are wrong. It would be so disappointing if this was just another foolaround coin. Too many of those lately, last few weeks we already had diodecoin and optimumcoin cheating the community. So sad if Vanillacoin turns out to be one alike.

[tbearhere]

Be patient, I just invented a new algorithm that's never been tested before mid-stream release.

It will be soon. The biggest problem is my slow CPU's compiling windows code.

I will update shortly.

Thank you for your support.

Isn't that whirlcoin algo... c11 ?

see no answer

He's probably not answering you directly because he has better stuff to do like get the wallet working.

You think you are a super clever sleuth who cracked the case but if you took the time to read the whitepaper in the original post you would see that it states quite plainly "The chosen algorithm is Whirlpool".  So this isn't a secret or something that the dev was hiding from the community.  You are like a troll without a bridge.

If you took time to read....he said he created a new algo...it's old you troll...just trying to bring truth to this.

[Jookly]

Be patient, I just invented a new algorithm that's never been tested before mid-stream release.

It will be soon. The biggest problem is my slow CPU's compiling windows code.

I will update shortly.

Thank you for your support.

Isn't that whirlcoin algo... c11 ?

see no answer

He's probably not answering you directly because he has better stuff to do like get the wallet working.

You think you are a super clever sleuth who cracked the case but if you took the time to read the whitepaper in the original post you would see that it states quite plainly "The chosen algorithm is Whirlpool".  So this isn't a secret or something that the dev was hiding from the community.  You are like a troll without a bridge.

If you took time to read....he said he created a new algo...it's old you troll...just trying to bring truth to this.

He said he created a new difficulty retargeting algorithm.  Go ahead and tell me how I can't read again.

[tbearhere]

Really hope you are wrong. It would be so disappointing if this was just another foolaround coin. Too many of those lately, last few weeks we already had diodecoin and optimumcoin cheating the community. So sad if Vanillacoin turns out to be one alike.

Yes i'm trying to help us not getting burnt. Thats all. When he said new...it is not...I have been mining this algo for a while.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=679134.0

[Jookly]

Really hope you are wrong. It would be so disappointing if this was just another foolaround coin. Too many of those lately, last few weeks we already had diodecoin and optimumcoin cheating the community. So sad if Vanillacoin turns out to be one alike.

Yes i'm trying to help us not getting burnt. Thats all. When he said new...it is not...I have been mining this algo for a while.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=679134.0

Bullshit.  If you were interested in the truth you would simply apologize for your mistake.

[tbearhere]

Really hope you are wrong. It would be so disappointing if this was just another foolaround coin. Too many of those lately, last few weeks we already had diodecoin and optimumcoin cheating the community. So sad if Vanillacoin turns out to be one alike.

Yes i'm trying to help us not getting burnt. Thats all. When he said new...it is not...I have been mining this algo for a while.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=679134.0

Bullshit.  If you were interested in the truth you would simply apologize for your mistake.

Explain re-targeting please.
Edit:  waiting.

[Jookly]

Really hope you are wrong. It would be so disappointing if this was just another foolaround coin. Too many of those lately, last few weeks we already had diodecoin and optimumcoin cheating the community. So sad if Vanillacoin turns out to be one alike.

Yes i'm trying to help us not getting burnt. Thats all. When he said new...it is not...I have been mining this algo for a while.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=679134.0

Bullshit.  If you were interested in the truth you would simply apologize for your mistake.

Explain re-targeting please.

A re-targeting algorithm is what the software uses to determine the difficulty of the blocks being mined.  Many coins have made small (and large) attempts to refine the difficulty retargeting for a variety of block chain health purposes. 

It's a really big topic actually and I am far from being an expert at any of this so if you want to know more about retargeting in general or the specifics of this coins new retargeting algo you will need to do your own research.

Hopefully that helps you understand that the dev has not been disingenuous.

[tbearhere]

Really hope you are wrong. It would be so disappointing if this was just another foolaround coin. Too many of those lately, last few weeks we already had diodecoin and optimumcoin cheating the community. So sad if Vanillacoin turns out to be one alike.

Yes i'm trying to help us not getting burnt. Thats all. When he said new...it is not...I have been mining this algo for a while.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=679134.0

Bullshit.  If you were interested in the truth you would simply apologize for your mistake.

Explain re-targeting please.

A re-targeting algorithm is what the software uses to determine the difficulty of the blocks being mined.  Many coins have made small (and large) attempts to refine the difficulty retargeting for a variety of block chain health purposes. 

It's a really big topic actually and I am far from being an expert at any of this so if you want to know more about retargeting in general or the specifics of this coins new retargeting algo you will need to do your own research.

Hopefully that helps you understand that the dev has not been disingenuous.

Ok cool but its still not a new algo. 

[Jookly]

Really hope you are wrong. It would be so disappointing if this was just another foolaround coin. Too many of those lately, last few weeks we already had diodecoin and optimumcoin cheating the community. So sad if Vanillacoin turns out to be one alike.

Yes i'm trying to help us not getting burnt. Thats all. When he said new...it is not...I have been mining this algo for a while.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=679134.0

Bullshit.  If you were interested in the truth you would simply apologize for your mistake.

Explain re-targeting please.

A re-targeting algorithm is what the software uses to determine the difficulty of the blocks being mined.  Many coins have made small (and large) attempts to refine the difficulty retargeting for a variety of block chain health purposes. 

It's a really big topic actually and I am far from being an expert at any of this so if you want to know more about retargeting in general or the specifics of this coins new retargeting algo you will need to do your own research.

Hopefully that helps you understand that the dev has not been disingenuous.

Ok cool but its still not a new algo. 

ok dude but what you really want to communicate is that it is not a new hashing algorithm.

Since the dev took the time to communicate clearly I think it is basic respect to not ignore the context of the word algorithm.  Having a misunderstanding is fine, everyone does it from time to time.

[Digithusiast]

Well, tbearhere is right there are questionmarks about what is said and presented by John.
Maybe he is a bit of a good but sloppy professor. I mean sloppy by having Libcoin as name in the wallet (even having Libcoin in the image in post 1 of this thread),
and running in all these startup problems after 1 year of working on it, is a bit remarkable too,
as also would be forgetting to mention his algo is based on an existing algo and not build from scratch.
As said, I hope John will not let us down and turns out to be trustworthy.

[waldistons]

I believe, most important thing in this coin was difficulty algo, ie - everyone gets same chances of mining. (I read the white-paper BTW)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but  I think dev meant to make same chances for mining with gpu, i7, i3 or pentium 4...
Implement it in sha256 and asic will be same as cpu for btc mining.

EDIT: about start-up problems - as a programmer I can say that it's nearly impossible to predict all real-life problems, especially if there are 100's of independent participants.

[Jookly]

yes it is always right to ask questions but when presented with factual answers we don't need to keep repeating what amount to accusations of dishonesty.

Open source software development is cool because it allows developers to add on each others work and we keep moving forward.  People take parts of code from all sorts of places to incorporate into their wallets.  

I think people mistake phrases like "engineered from the ground up" to mean "I coded this whole thing from scratch".   Personally I dislike phrases similar to that for that very reason.

Anyway.  I love participating in new coins and I am not concerned at all about being "scammed" because I would not let myself be.  These people aren't asking for your life savings just a little bit of processing power which you are voluntarily giving to them.

I agree with you Digithusiast that I hope John will be trustworthy.

[tbearhere]

Well, tbearhere is right there are questionmarks about what is said and presented by John.
Maybe he is a bit of a good but sloppy professor. I mean sloppy by having Libcoin as name in the wallet (even having Libcoin in the image in post 1 of this thread),
and running in all these startup problems after 1 year of working on it, is a bit remarkable too,
as also would be forgetting to mention his algo is based on an existing algo and not build from scratch.
As said, I hope John will not let us down and turns out to be trustworthy.

Thank you Digithusiast.

[tbearhere]

yes it is always right to ask questions but when presented with factual answers we don't need to keep repeating what amount to accusations of dishonesty.

Open source software development is cool because it allows developers to add on each others work and we keep moving forward.  People take parts of code from all sorts of places to incorporate into their wallets.  

I think people mistake phrases like "engineered from the ground up" to mean "I coded this whole thing from scratch".   Personally I dislike phrases similar to that for that very reason.

Anyway.  I love participating in new coins and I am not concerned at all about being "scammed" because I would not let myself be.  These people aren't asking for your life savings just a little bit of processing power which you are voluntarily giving to them.

I agree with you Digithusiast that I hope John will be trustworthy.

I love participating in new coins too Jookly. Thats why i'm here.  But when I saw a closed wallet, no confg file to gpu mine to, an algorithm that everyone can mine and more I started thinking. ( I was scammed so many times before sending my hash into the dev pocket ) He has a closed wallet. He had many forks. ok Im patient. But adding all the things that were going on, I started thinking that he could be mining at high hash getting many coin to dump while we have low hash and very little coins with a known algorithm. And that's why I said scam alert, not it's a scam. If anything, he should call this whirl-r or something like that. Saying that he forked it with whirl. Now that would be cool. 

[john-connor]

I have finalized the algorithm that levels the playing field for miners and will make distribution fair.

The consensus driven algorithm will make an ASIC, FPGA or GPU equal to a CPU. It will also make a 64-way multi-core processor like a single CPU. It will make 8 threads (cores) like a single CPU. A core goal of this project was energy efficiency. I have achieved random blind luck mining using only simple technics unrelated to hashing.

I have a test network running that has proven to evenly distribute coins across old laptops, mac mini's and a new macbook pro (12 times the CPU power) using this new algorithm.

I need to get some rest but when I wake I will upload test network binaries and the launch date stands.

Thank you for your support.

[Jookly]

yes it is always right to ask questions but when presented with factual answers we don't need to keep repeating what amount to accusations of dishonesty.

Open source software development is cool because it allows developers to add on each others work and we keep moving forward.  People take parts of code from all sorts of places to incorporate into their wallets.  

I think people mistake phrases like "engineered from the ground up" to mean "I coded this whole thing from scratch".   Personally I dislike phrases similar to that for that very reason.

Anyway.  I love participating in new coins and I am not concerned at all about being "scammed" because I would not let myself be.  These people aren't asking for your life savings just a little bit of processing power which you are voluntarily giving to them.

I agree with you Digithusiast that I hope John will be trustworthy.

I love participating in new coins too Jookly. Thats why i'm here.  But when I saw a closed wallet, no confg file to gpu mine to, an algorithm that everyone can mine and more I started thinking. ( I was scammed so many times before sending my hash into the dev pocket ) He has a closed wallet. He had many forks. ok Im patient. But adding all the things that were going on, I started thinking that he could be mining at high hash getting many coin to dump while we have low hash and very little coins with a known algorithm. And that's why I said scam alert, not it's a scam. If anything, he should call this whirl-r or something like that. Saying that he forked it with whirl. Now that would be cool. 

Ya I do understand your general concerns, and there is no way to say what will happen, I guess we will have to wait and see.  A fair distribution is an ideal that coins strive to achieve and so I think it will be difficult for a group to ever agree on a perfect distribution but who knows maybe this coin will be a step in a positive direction.  Either way I'm going to have some for my collection

[hankrules]

I have finalized the algorithm that levels the playing field for miners and will make distribution fair.

The consensus driven algorithm will make an ASIC, FPGA or GPU equal to a CPU. It will also make a 64-way multi-core processor like a single CPU. It will make 8 threads (cores) like a single CPU. A core goal of this project was energy efficiency. I have achieved random blind luck mining using only simple technics unrelated to hashing.

I have a test network running that has proven to evenly distribute coins across old laptops, mac mini's and a new macbook pro (12 times the CPU power) using this new algorithm.

I need to get some rest but when I wake I will upload test network binaries and the launch date stands.

Thank you for your support.

You should upload the source so we can try to circumvent it.

[john-connor]

I have finalized the algorithm that levels the playing field for miners and will make distribution fair.

The consensus driven algorithm will make an ASIC, FPGA or GPU equal to a CPU. It will also make a 64-way multi-core processor like a single CPU. It will make 8 threads (cores) like a single CPU. A core goal of this project was energy efficiency. I have achieved random blind luck mining using only simple technics unrelated to hashing.

I have a test network running that has proven to evenly distribute coins across old laptops, mac mini's and a new macbook pro (12 times the CPU power) using this new algorithm.

I need to get some rest but when I wake I will upload test network binaries and the launch date stands.

Thank you for your support.

You should upload the source so we can try to circumvent it.

After a successful launch I will start committing the *.cpp files to github. You cannot circumvent the consensus unless you can control 51% of the total network hash rate. With this design you can never control 51% of the network hash rate or even a fraction of that from a single peer. When pooled mining is supported even a pool cannot obtain 51% by network consensus.

Good night and thank you for your support.

[Rols]

yes it is always right to ask questions but when presented with factual answers we don't need to keep repeating what amount to accusations of dishonesty.

Open source software development is cool because it allows developers to add on each others work and we keep moving forward.  People take parts of code from all sorts of places to incorporate into their wallets.  

I think people mistake phrases like "engineered from the ground up" to mean "I coded this whole thing from scratch".   Personally I dislike phrases similar to that for that very reason.

Anyway.  I love participating in new coins and I am not concerned at all about being "scammed" because I would not let myself be.  These people aren't asking for your life savings just a little bit of processing power which you are voluntarily giving to them.

I agree with you Digithusiast that I hope John will be trustworthy.

I love participating in new coins too Jookly. Thats why i'm here.   But when I saw a closed wallet, no confg file to gpu mine to, an algorithm that everyone can mine and more I started thinking. ( I was scammed so many times before sending my hash into the dev pocket ) He has a closed wallet. He had many forks. ok Im patient. But adding all the things that were going on, I started thinking that he could be mining at high hash getting many coin to dump while we have low hash and very little coins with a known algorithm. And that's why I said scam alert, not it's a scam. If anything, he should call this whirl-r or something like that. Saying that he forked it with whirl. Now that would be cool.  

@tbearhere There must be something damaged in your head. You are shouting scam just because the algo is same. All coins are scams if that is true. Even bitcoin. So your big letters are just making people not to trust you with whatever you are writing. Use that word when its needed and not when you want.

You were just advertising the other thread which is stupid thing to do.

[tbearhere]

yes it is always right to ask questions but when presented with factual answers we don't need to keep repeating what amount to accusations of dishonesty.

Open source software development is cool because it allows developers to add on each others work and we keep moving forward.  People take parts of code from all sorts of places to incorporate into their wallets.  

I think people mistake phrases like "engineered from the ground up" to mean "I coded this whole thing from scratch".   Personally I dislike phrases similar to that for that very reason.

Anyway.  I love participating in new coins and I am not concerned at all about being "scammed" because I would not let myself be.  These people aren't asking for your life savings just a little bit of processing power which you are voluntarily giving to them.

I agree with you Digithusiast that I hope John will be trustworthy.

I love participating in new coins too Jookly. Thats why i'm here.   But when I saw a closed wallet, no confg file to gpu mine to, an algorithm that everyone can mine and more I started thinking. ( I was scammed so many times before sending my hash into the dev pocket ) He has a closed wallet. He had many forks. ok Im patient. But adding all the things that were going on, I started thinking that he could be mining at high hash getting many coin to dump while we have low hash and very little coins with a known algorithm. And that's why I said scam alert, not it's a scam. If anything, he should call this whirl-r or something like that. Saying that he forked it with whirl. Now that would be cool.  

@tbearhere There must be something damaged in your head. You are shouting scam just because the algo is same. All coins are scams if that is true. Even bitcoin. So your big letters are just making people not to trust you with whatever you are writing. Use that word when its needed and not when you want.

You were just advertising the other thread which is stupid thing to do.

>You are shouting scam< nope scam alert. >Use that word when its needed< I'll use that word when ever I want. >You were just advertising the other thread which is stupid thing to do.< nope just proving that that algorithm already exists.  You remind me of the man walking across the street ready to get hit by a truck, I shout out, lookout theres a truck coming and the man says mind your own business ....................................................bam!!