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April 10, 2015, 01:48:27 PM
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Karma is a bitch not aint she

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April 12, 2015, 11:05:23 AM
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https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/lets-talk-bitcoin-203-digging-in

Adam speaks with Mike, editor-in-chief of Coinfire about the story of Coinfire and their investigation into Josh Garza, CEO of GAW Miner and founder of PayCoin. This episode is not to be missed.

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/19949/mississippi-power-company-suing-gaw-miners-350000/

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April 12, 2015, 11:11:09 AM
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People investing in coins like this makes me wonder if most of the humanity is actually dumb? I think only around 10% of the populations is smart enough for our survival as a race
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April 12, 2015, 10:59:26 PM
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People investing in coins like this makes me wonder if most of the humanity is actually dumb? I think only around 10% of the populations is smart enough for our survival as a race

As scams go, it preyed upon previous goodwill from looking like it was doing good work. Zencloud (mining owned by GAW) looked legit from the outside and people were making money slowly but surely from mining there. Everything was working as it said it would, so when the reliable-seeming GAW was making a coin of it's own and then started pumping hype in a lot of publications, naturally people got excited and wanted on board.

Can you blame people for wanting to jump on board what sounds like a good deal from a company that had not previously ripped you off? After all, people keep going to Walmart because they are "happy" with that they bought and don't care/believe that the company itself is a little shady even though Walmart has been known to sell counterfeit goods, abuse welfare while dodging taxes, and treat their workers badly.  How could a company that has made them happy and is respected by their friends/family be bad? Same principal with GAW.

It's just a case of people choosing money over ethics (on both sides!) or just plain not knowing/believing GAW had any shadiness because GAW had been good to them. In short, humanity isn't that dumb, however, it is selfish and tends to trust those who have been good to them over strangers. It's sad that common human survival instincts are a scammer's best friend.
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April 13, 2015, 01:02:10 AM
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I wonder what XPY is going to drop down to. This would have to be a community effort, and from what I've seen is, to be able to keep XPY on top of the markets. But I think eventually people will get tired of it and it will be worth less than DOGE in a year or so. I kinda had this feeling when Josh Garza was hyping this coin up. Just one of those things people feel. Everyone has felt it one time or another.
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April 13, 2015, 02:30:33 AM
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Small amount of the victims coming forward discussing their losses:
http://postimg.org/image/wvf4cs9zf/
How do you know is that really true? And is not that general pattern with all altcoin? Pump and dump, so every altcoin is a scam?
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April 13, 2015, 05:56:35 AM
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There is no flippin way paycoin will survive the scamming and drama. Its claim for fame will be achieving "The biggest altcoin scam ever" title.

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April 13, 2015, 06:34:03 AM
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Well it's been in the code since launch, don't know why everyone resorted to garza before seeing all the claimed technology was fake.  Undecided

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April 13, 2015, 07:26:56 AM
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I am really upset with Paycoin and Gaw..We lost voer 26 btc investing in Gaw miner hashlets and our paycoins are still stuck in the wallet with no help from support on how to get them out and now they are hardly worth didly-squat..another coin scam bites the dust.  Cry


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April 13, 2015, 08:37:31 AM
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http://bitsofnews.net/an-interview-with-josh-garzas-biggest-enemy/


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April 13, 2015, 09:56:56 PM
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Well it's been in the code since launch, don't know why everyone resorted to garza before seeing all the claimed technology was fake.  Undecided
Many people bought in before launch when they couldn't see the code. On top of it, GAW didn't warn them that things weren't going to be 100% ready at launch and that the launch was actually an unmarked open Beta instead of a fully-finished product. The hype made it sound like everything was going to be at least basically functional within a month of launch and that there were real partners backing the coin. Nobody knew it was all fake and just assumed that they just didn't know all the details and that there would be clear info at launch (which is pretty common when a site is being released, actually).

The rage from GAW fans when they saw that they were misled was very real which led to the heavy censorship GAW is infamous for.  If not angry, they were confused and kept hoping they hadn't been hoodwinked and that it was just a "rough launch". The first month was full of dealing with the fallout from the bad launch. Even worse, a month or two after launch the TOS changed to absolve GAW of any responsibility in the coin and GAW didn't warn anyone that they changed it. Anyone who didn't cut and run within the first month pretty much was screwed.
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April 16, 2015, 04:45:57 AM
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http://bitsofnews.net/gaw-stuart-fraser-cantor-fitzgerald-vaultbreakers-and-the-truth/

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This is how he chooses to spend the money he made through this fraud:




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Brock replied:
Hello Josh,

Upon our last review of your Coinbase account, we have determined that we can no longer provide you with access to Coinbase Services. Please understand that Coinbase is a regulated Money Service Business under the FinCEN division of the U.S. Treasury Department and as such, we are required to review accounts in order to ensure compliance with regulations and/or our terms of use. In your case, after careful consideration, we have determined that you have violated one or more of our Terms of Use.

Additionally, once our Terms have been violated we cannot reinstate an account. This has been communicated by email in a previous case.

Please note, that we have not blocked access to the bitcoin balance currently in your Coinbase account; while we can no longer process transactions of this bitcoin via our banking relationship, you may send this bitcoin to a local wallet or another bitcoin address.

Respectfully,
The Coinbase Team




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April 17, 2015, 01:56:32 AM
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This is how he chooses to spend the money he made through this fraud:



All that They are saying about the flaw in the floor idea is just shit ... once people sell the coins in paybase they become the bagholder and They just have to  put those coins again on the markets with a price higher that the floor , let's say 21$ , if someone buys those coins they are not going going to sell it for 20$ at paybase since they are going to loose money . So no infinite game here .
They only have to worry about the coins dumped from hashstakers and controllers , and since they can control the stake and how many coins are created massives dumps to empty his resources and damage the coin can be stopped , specially if the controllers (wich are the ones with real power to create problems with dumping) are supossed to be in hand of people that believe in the coin and support it like Garza said . So again no infinite game here .



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April 17, 2015, 06:29:05 PM
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Consumer protection advice when requesting a chargeback from GAW:

https://forum.gethashing.com/t/gaw-legal-credit-and-consumer-protection-rights-thread/2878




Hi Everyone,

I just got off of the phone with PNC Bank, to get clarification as to how you should approach your charge backs.

This pertains to Visas issued by banks:

Visa has a 120 day charge back window for "normal" charge backs. This particular GAW transaction has been classified non-standard. Under Visa's guidelines, non-standard charge backs have extension periods which are not fixed. In the case of fraud or failure to deliver the service as described, an extension period is fairly open to the credit card issuing bank's determination.

Approximately 4-5 weeks ago many of the banks were receiving charge back requests for GAW Miners. PNC began investigating the company and after finding the website gone, they began to dig deeper, including contacting the SEC on the status of the investigation, since this one of the main statements made by contesting card users.

According to PNC, Visa does NOT cover losses relating to INVESTMENTS. The main contention of the SEC is that Hashlets/Stakers are unregistered INVESTMENTS. However, since GAW is claiming that Hashlets/Stakers are not investments, consumers were purchasing another service unrelated to investments.

The banks are apparently pursuing this line to force charge backs with the processors (GAW side). When you call to charge back a GAW transaction, make sure you stay completely away from the word INVESTMENT. Most of the customer service reps are already aware of what is happening with GAW, since there has been a tsunami of recent activity and effort to charge back these transactions.

As others have already stated, you must state that it is GAW Miners and that they are under a FORMAL investigation by the SEC in order to connect the dots with your card issuing bank.

I cannot yet speak to Mastercard and Discover Card. I am calling Citibank next to get their position or the approach they have taken. Thus far, it appears that all of this has been well documented by the major credit card issuing banks.

Cheat Sheet:

    Purchased a product from GAW MIners.
    Confirmed, under a formal SEC investigation
    Product/Service has been stopped
    Company has stated that the service is being terminated or EOLed
    Did not receive the service as stated at the time of the sales process.

These are the top issues at hand. Do not go into anything further than this, as it only complicates the process. If they ask questions, think before you answer.

PNC indicated that they will not be sending any documentation for me to fill out, as they already have a "crib sheet" version they are using to support the charge backs. More than likely, your credit card issuing bank will have something similar.

For those who may have received rejection notices, you do have the right to appeal the decision. If you need a copy of the formal SEC subpoena, obviously all you have to do is ask here in the forums. Someone (@suchmoon) will be able to either upload it for you or send you a link to a copy.

Hopefully, this helps everyone through this process.




DISCOVER is requiring you to contact GAW Miners first to ask for a refund, and if you are unable to reach someone or they are unruly, then you contact DISCOVER back and they will begin the Dispute process.

The CSR lady, Pam, was very helpful and nice about explaining this to me. Also, DISCOVER generally asks that you dispute within 120 days of the transaction, HOWEVER, there is no set time limit in which you can dispute a charge.


    I noticed peoples cc providers asking for the Zenminer TOS.Can someone that has the original Zenminer TOS available, please post it for everyone?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=720844.msg8605520#msg860552016







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16    bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=720844.msg8605520#msg8605520
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0    [WATCHLIST] GAWMiners, Paybase, ZenCloud
0    [WATCHLIST] GAWMiners, Paybase, ZenCloud
0    tdbank.com/tdhelps/default.aspx/dispute/v/38700376/
0    [WATCHLIST] GAWMiners, Paybase, ZenCloud
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0    pressroom.target.com/news/target-announces-closing-of-credit-card-portfolio-sale
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0    [WATCHLIST] GAWMiners, Paybase, ZenCloud
0    [WATCHLIST] GAWMiners, Paybase, ZenCloud
0    Probing a Lawsuit Against GAWminers et al
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0    synchronyfinancial.com/contact-us.html

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April 19, 2015, 12:29:16 PM
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Homero trying to con bitmain:

In the end he was forced to buy 2000 units why? Because he wanted bitmain to publicize his order.

Homero orders a small amount of machines and negotiates a whole lot more then starts to plead with bitmain to public state he bought 5 or 6 PH of machines. Bitmain refuses, saying, we can't publicly declare this unless it is true, that is you make payment and we deliver it then we can publicly declare this. Homero is nagging him that 'the money is en-route' state for me publicly I have bought this from you and on and on. In one instance he sends the money confirms it to bitmain, pleads for him to say he has bought the hashing power, reverses the wire where again bitmain refuses to make this state.  So in the end in order to get bitmain to make a statement, homero actually has to buy the goods and physically take possession of them before any statement is made.  What he tried to do was buy a few, negotiate more, based on that have bitmain declare he has bought x hashing power, there after without question the Homero would have cancelled the balance order.

So far everything Homero does and has done is a reaction to the public, the outcry for proof of mining, forced him to buy a few, attempt to get bitmain declare he has x hashing power base don a small order + negotiating more, that fails so to fulfill the public outcry and in order to get bitmain to make the statement, he ends up having to actually buy it all. Clearly he never really wanted them didn't need them because bullshit was working, but when pushed by the public bought 'some' to make it look like he as mining, then  when negotiating i.e. pretending he was more/all, bitmain refuses to confirm publicly based on negotiations, so a at the end of the day he is forced to buy it all.

Actually the entire operation from start to finish is based on what was analyzed here, and on reddit and elsewhere, every time, someone here analyzed their TOS, pointed out a problem, they made a note of the thread and comments, and quickly changed it, likewise with the coin itself, all problems and all analysis here on this thread was monitored daily by them, and everything modified to address it on their end once revealed here. Everything.

This was the MO from day one, bullshit our way through and if push comes to shove quickly remedy it by actually doing what we are bullshitting about. That he why he specifically targetd naive noobs with zero experience in crypto as his marks. Too bad everyone here and everywhere else with some experience caught and exposed this sack of shit for what he is.




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Hi josh,

We do not release any customer's information or transaction record to anyone other than to the transacting customer by default. 

Just like any businesses in USA, we need a waiver from you that we can release 5PH or 6PH purchase to the general public by how you want us to say it.  We need the waiver of liability from you or the contract I sent to you.

The latest contract has the paragraph for us to release the statement as part of the sales agreement.  you can strike the message and hand write into, what you want us to post it or we can post it the way it is in the sales agreement.

We are eager to post confirmation for you, but we have to take care of ourself, too.

Also, If I'm misunderstanding what you want me to do, please clarify.  (Confirm the 5PH order is placed/negotiated at the moment, or purchase is completed or paid for)  When it is paid, we consider it is completed.

As you can see, we listed 2 URLs, one from your forum and the other from the bitcointalk you specified and we already created BITMAIN account on your forum to honor your request as soon as you requested, but we just need confirmation and waiver from your side for us to do so.

YOSHI



On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Josh Garza <josh@btc.com> wrote:

    What waiver?
    On Oct 25, 2014 11:06 AM, "Yoshi Goto" <yoshi@bitmaintech.com> wrote:

        Hi Josh,

        We have no problem confirming the completing order. (If already paid for), then we have confidence that it will be shipped, and we can post confirmation that 5PH or 6PH was purchased. 

        Are you asking me to confirm that the order was placed/negociated or the order was completed (meaning paid for)?

        either way, please give us the release consent/waiver to do so. (to cover Bitmain's officers, board members, employees, agent and associated members from liability related to posting the comments to confirm the order was requested or order paid.


        YOSHI

        On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 8:57 AM, Josh Garza <josh@btc.com> wrote:

            It seems to elude you that all I am/was asking for was confirmation we placed the order. Placing the order and completing it are not the same thing.

            I will get a confirmation number when accounting gets in.
            On Oct 25, 2014 10:51 AM, "Yoshi Goto" <yoshi@bitmaintech.com> wrote:

                Josh,

                What Im trying to confirm is you stated you sent the payment in and we are not seeing it yet.  If you could help us see it it would help, but our company can not make statement based on the speculation.

                So, let me confirm, just to complete the 1.25m portion of the order?

                Thank you

                On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Josh Garza <josh@btc.com> wrote:

                    Hi Yoshi,

                    You got my correspondence and I got yours. I appreciate your perspective, but my board and I have our own, which I outline for you in my previous email.

                    Since neither of us are changing positions, it looks like we should just focus on completing the order. The order. Thanks
                    On Oct 25, 2014 10:34 AM, "Yoshi Goto" <yoshi@bitmaintech.com> wrote:

                        Hi josh,

                        May be I missed the point?

                        On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Josh Garza <josh@btc.com> wrote:

                            I stated my position in my last email.
                            On Oct 24, 2014 6:06 PM, "Yoshi Goto" <yoshi@bitmaintech.com> wrote:

                                HI Josh,

                                If you are looking for the long term, lets make it work.

                                On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Josh Garza <josh@btc.com> wrote:

                                    Understood
                                    On Oct 24, 2014 5:31 PM, "Yoshi Goto" <yoshi@bitmaintech.com> wrote:

                                        Hi Josh,

                                        I can write about what happen in the first dealing from your side and how we feel about it, but that's not going to be productive to both of us.  Lets put this part of the dealing behind us and move forward. 

                                        Your primary goal is to acquire reliable hardware your customers can trust as lowest as possible as fast as possible with the reliable supply chain with a short notice.  Our goal is to fullfill customers need as fast as we could upon confirming the payment.

                                        We as the hardware manufacture, we can cater your need in timely manner and we will do our best to exceed your expectation.

                                        We are catering your request as we can and accepting your modifications as we possibly could, however, the payment did not show up in Hong Kong by the end of October 24th business day and it is still not showing up.  We haven't receive the contract nor the copy of wire receipt.  We generally do not publicly announce our out put capacity and it was not in the original agreement, but we are willing to do so for this order. (We do not use BFL Marketing Model)

                                        We do business in the long term.  One thing we want to make it clear is payment must be in first before we allocate large production quantity with the special version.  You will receive the priority in processing, however, the payment has to meet the deadline to keep the on-time schedule. (To cater the special order item, we do everything we can to speed things up and there is no other manufacture that can meet this demand at the moment or even by end of this year)

                                        I don't know how to stress this to you, just like SP and Bitfury, we do ship on time upon payment, but we can't do anything without the payment being confirmed specially in public.  Bitmain sales term is very clear and there is no refund specially if the batch was a custom made version.


                                        At this moment, we can post a note for 2PH.  or we can wait for another 5-6 hours and see if the wire shows up for saturday's business day.

                                        P.S for this first deal, we gave you the hardware at our cost and for immediate shipping to show you our capacity and how we do business with private sale's side.  Bitmain's major target is the Chinese Domestic Market and this size order is nothing new for us to handle when it comes to the capacity wise. (You are the special customer in the private client's side)  You can google but you will not find any complaints from private sales customers that the order was delayed, because we fullfill these order ahead of schedule most of the time.

                                        Yoshi

                                        On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 5:34 PM, Josh Garza <josh@btc.com> wrote:

                                            Yoshi, I get it, but it goes both ways. I get that you guys were upset
                                            that we almost canceled the order, but you guys also refused to give
                                            us our payment back. This is also not appropriate, so it goes both
                                            ways.

                                            We need to both agree if the goal here is this order, or a long
                                            partnership. If its this order, enough said.

                                            But if its a partnership, then there is more here.

                                            I appreciate all you guys are doing, but lets be honest here (we both
                                            run business) you are doing it to capture more business in the future.

                                            Assuming that your goal, it does not make me feel good that the
                                            expectation is I absorb a million dollar plus risk, with the promise
                                            that you will be shipping us hardware (which you did, but its still a
                                            risk). And you guys can not take a risk to write a simple note
                                            confirming our order that is already partially paid for. Seems like a
                                            very one sided partnership, and that wont work in the long run.

                                            In the US, we have a saying "dont throw the baby out with the bath
                                            water" and thats whats happening here.

                                            To leave a sour taste in my mouth for refusing to write a simple note
                                            (that you could have easily deleted in a future), does not make me
                                            feel great about the future. It's small potatoes with the business we
                                            can do as time goes on.

                                            The way this note was handled will make me I need to continue looking
                                            for where our long term business ends up. I hope that changes.

                                            Josh

                                            On 10/23/14, Yoshi Goto <yoshi@bitmaintech.com> wrote:
                                            > Hi Josh,
                                            >
                                            > Hope you understand, we ship products upon payment but the last wire
                                            > reversal attempt made it very uncomfortable for us to take any action until
                                            > the funds truly clear the international transit.  The process involved not
                                            > only us but the bank, too.  Normally any attempt to reverse the wire will
                                            > cause the future ban on customers but we did not do that for you guys.  We
                                            > already shifted the production cycle to cater your special versions but the
                                            > confirmation wise, we can't really state anything clear in PH power wise
                                            > without the payment.
                                            >
                                            > We can however, post that we are "confirming the order" to have the wire
                                            > shows up and settle.  If it went out yesterday business day, it may show up
                                            > in the next several hours once the new business day open. (If it was 1.6
                                            > million, then that will cover 5PH, if you submitted additional 750,000 that
                                            > will do for sure 6PH.
                                            >
                                            > sorry for the delay, I just landed in new york from Israel.
                                            >
                                            > On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Josh Garza <josh@btc.com> wrote:
                                            >
                                            >> How about just keeping it simple.
                                            >>
                                            >> "Bitmain is confirming that GAW miners last order was for over 6ph"
                                            >>
                                            >> Simple, easy and accurate.
                                            >>
                                            >> For a partnership to work, just has to go both ways. We sent you guys
                                            >> over
                                            >> a million dollars for product that had not been shipped yet. And we just
                                            >> sent even more. So we are showing our trust in you guys with our cash.
                                            >>
                                            >> And it's taken almost a week to get one sentence of confirmation. Hoping
                                            >> you can take care of this asap. :)
                                            >>
                                            >>
                                            >> On Thursday, October 23, 2014, Yoshi Goto <yoshi@bitmaintech.com> wrote:
                                            >>
                                            >>> Does this work for you?
                                            >>>
                                            >>> **********************
                                            >>> please wait for a moment, we are counting the total army of ants
                                            >>> marching
                                            >>> your way
                                            >>>
                                            >>> Confirming the validity of the comment request from GAW Management, it
                                            >>> took a bit longer due to the time difference (day&night) and the
                                            >>> weekend.
                                            >>> **********************
                                            >>>
                                            >>>
                                            >>> Thank you
                                            >>>
                                            >>> YOSHI
                                            >>>
                                            >>>
                                            >>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 9:30 PM, Yoshi Goto <yoshi@bitmaintech.com>
                                            >>> wrote:
                                            >>>
                                            >>>> how about, us coming online, and say, please wait for a moment, we are
                                            >>>> counting the total army of ants marching your way. or something like
                                            >>>> that?
                                            >>>>  2PH for sure already by the end of the month shipping. (Not counting
                                            >>>> your
                                            >>>> existing S2 and S3)
                                            >>>>
                                            >>>> We may also be able to, mention that the Bitmain side try to confirm
                                            >>>> the
                                            >>>> validity of the comment request from GAW Management and due to the time
                                            >>>> difference (day&night) and the weekend, it took a bit longer.
                                            >>>>
                                            >>>> What do you think?
                                            >>>>
                                            >>>>
                                            >>>>
                                            >>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 9:17 PM, Josh Garza <josh@btc.com> wrote:
                                            >>>>
                                            >>>>> Yes, we will do that chunk soon. So maybe say close to 7 ph
                                            >>>>>
                                            >>>>> Please do that asap. I did not realize you guys would not do it until
                                            >>>>> the wire went out. So I look like a fool now.
                                            >>>>>
                                            >>>>> On Wednesday, October 22, 2014, Yoshi Goto <yoshi@bitmaintech.com>
                                            >>>>> wrote:
                                            >>>>>
                                            >>>>>> Hi Josh,
                                            >>>>>>
                                            >>>>>> Thank you for the update.  We are not seeing the pending incoming
                                            >>>>>> yet,
                                            >>>>>> but Im sure it will show up soon. If you could send the contract and
                                            >>>>>> wire
                                            >>>>>> receipt, it will help a lot!!
                                            >>>>>>
                                            >>>>>> If you selected for the optional 750,000 option, do you want us to
                                            >>>>>> say
                                            >>>>>> over 6PH? + another chunk you already have from S3 and S2? May push
                                            >>>>>> close
                                            >>>>>> to 7PH or just a little shy of 7PH may be.
                                            >>>>>>
                                            >>>>>> YOSHI
                                            >>>>>>
                                            >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 9:05 PM, Josh Garza <josh@btc.com> wrote:
                                            >>>>>>
                                            >>>>>>> wire is out, pls make update
                                            >>>>>>>
                                            >>>>>>>
                                            >>>>>>> *Josh Garza*
                                            >>>>>>> *CEO- *GAW Corp
                                            >>>>>>>
                                            >>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 9:21 PM, Yoshi Goto <yoshi@bitmaintech.com>
                                            >>>>>>> wrote:
                                            >>>>>>>
                                            >>>>>>>> Hi Josh,
                                            >>>>>>>>
                                            >>>>>>>> Please let us know the status.  We are ready to make the
                                            >>>>>>>> announcement as requested.
                                            >>>>>>>>
                                            >>>>>>>>
                                            >>>>>>>> YOSHI
                                            >>>>>>>>
                                            >>>>>>>>
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So who many people are onboard for the civil lawsuit that's coming? I would imagine they will be a online signup sheet for this too, kinda like when they did  Red Bull's civil lawsuit that was settled. I don't blame the investors for suing. I hope everyone gets all the money they funded back and then some. Sorry for everyone in the community's loss.
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yes people lost plenty money is there a website about this?

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I just disputed $5k worth of charges on my AMEX.. see what happens
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I just disputed $5k worth of charges on my AMEX.. see what happens

Good luck sir.

Here is some detailed leaked emails showing how GAW and Josh arranged and paid for shills to go after any disent here on the forum by instilling doubt, spreading distrust, and Doxing and intimidating the people warning others:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1033266.0

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In addition, when I get back to a computer I will post all our wallet addresses so you can track our movement.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/36358/response-to-price



8 days later ... still no addresses provided... he doesn't know how to find his own public addresses... how scary is that! This is one example where him lying would be a better outcome than if it where true.  


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https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/litecoin-association-director-urges-paycoin-community-put-foot/

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The level of at the best mismanagement and at its worse potential scamming and illegal activities has reached beyond which I can once again sit back and stay idle.

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These include securities fraud, money laundering, extortion, grand theft, insider trading, retaliation against whistleblowers, wire fraud, charity fraud, and I’m sure there is more I missed. This is not trolling or FUD at all, and I caution anyone calling this as such. These are serious illegal activities and should not be taken lightly.


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Lastly, I would like to end with this, a personal message to Josh Garza. On my short time here on earth I have met many people with sociopathic traits, and you fit the bill. I really have nothing else to say beyond this, and the way you have used people like toilet paper is deplorable. And just as a FYI I’m still up for the live debate you decided to run away from.

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