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January 16, 2015, 05:07:41 AM
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I have two S5 coming this week  my question is i can use two of these on each S5 I hate noise I'm 58 .  I have two of these fans right now on  one of my S1 I'm  replacing with S5 .I'll either junk the S1's save the heat sinks for some thing later on or sell them super cheap on Ebay.


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FKNAG7Y/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have two deltas similar to the ones you have on an S5 that runs very quite. There is a link to a video here it has 15 seconds of SP20s and 15 seconds of the S5. Not a very scientific approach but a quick and dirty comparison: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=902305.1240. I like both unit types as they both serve me well.

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January 16, 2015, 12:50:43 PM
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I have two S5 coming this week  my question is i can use two of these on each S5 I hate noise I'm 58 .  I have two of these fans right now on  one of my S1 I'm  replacing with S5 .I'll either junk the S1's save the heat sinks for some thing later on or sell them super cheap on Ebay.


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FKNAG7Y/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have two deltas similar to the ones you have on an S5 that runs very quite. There is a link to a video here it has 15 seconds of SP20s and 15 seconds of the S5. Not a very scientific approach but a quick and dirty comparison: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=902305.1240. I like both unit types as they both serve me well.

I knew a guy that worked for Intel. They would actually have the latest processor chips sitting on shelves, never to used yet because they wanted to milk more out of their current technology. So when you see Intel processors saturate the market that usually means some new chips are coming out on the market. The public has no clue about this, and just like bitcoin manufacturer's, they with-hold information from us on purpose for financial gain. Why do you think all the manufacturers were pushing the hell out of their inventory, having big sales and trying to sell as much as they could right before bitcoin dropped below the $400's. Usually when you have and use inside information for financial gain it is illegal, but since this bitcoin market is unrelated, apparently anything goes.



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January 16, 2015, 04:10:36 PM
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S1 fan is better than no fan, but S5 fan is a lot more powerful than S1, so you may struggle to keep S5 cold enough...




Ok I finally install everything.
With my setup, I cant run at 350. I run at 275 and get around 875 gh
But the sound is almost 0.

The temps are 63 and 54 is that ok ?

Im also looking to put 2 S1 fan on it but the wire is to short I need to find extender.  Tongue


Totally Understand that! Just want to fine a good way to mine at a good temp with a resonable sound level.
2 S1 fan in push pull should be good ? What is the CFM of the S1 fan ?


Hands down the best is a pair of the delta's from the ebay link.



What link is that?
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January 16, 2015, 04:19:34 PM
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S1 fan is better than no fan, but S5 fan is a lot more powerful than S1, so you may struggle to keep S5 cold enough...




Ok I finally install everything.
With my setup, I cant run at 350. I run at 275 and get around 875 gh
But the sound is almost 0.

The temps are 63 and 54 is that ok ?

Im also looking to put 2 S1 fan on it but the wire is to short I need to find extender.  Tongue


Totally Understand that! Just want to fine a good way to mine at a good temp with a resonable sound level.
2 S1 fan in push pull should be good ? What is the CFM of the S1 fan ?


Hands down the best is a pair of the delta's from the ebay link.



What link is that?

It was a few pages back .  Some one was selling 5 deltas for 41 bucks.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/191443200211?

4 pin pwm's


he now has sets of 2 for 15 + 5 = 20 dollars

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Delta-AFB1212SHE-Computer-Case-Power-Fan-120X120mm-Lot-of-2-/191472588964?pt=US_Computer_Case_Fans&hash=item2c94a7d8a4


truly these are really good if you use  2 in a push pull at  5.5-6 volts they are really quiet and allow for  a 990gh quiet miner. freq 300

if you use 7 volts  they are pretty quiet and allow for freq 325-350

at 9.2 volts they are better then the stock fan and allow overclock.

I did not bother setting them as pwm as I want a freq super quiet miner .  I send 5.5 volts to the fans   and I am doing this.:




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January 16, 2015, 04:42:41 PM
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If anyone in Canada is interested and doesn't want to pay shipping and import charges, I have a bunch of 25mm (WFB1212H - 87CFM 37dBA - no PWM, FFC1212DE - 140CFM 54dBA - PWM) and 38mm (TFC1212DE - 252CFM 66dBA PWM) fans laying around I probably won't use again. I have about a dozen each of the 25mm ones, and I think about 20 of the 38mm Deltas (or their Nidec equivalent) though some of the 38mm ones don't have 0.1" headers on yet.
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January 16, 2015, 04:47:13 PM
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If anyone in Canada is interested and doesn't want to pay shipping and import charges, I have a bunch of 25mm (WFB1212H - 87CFM 37dBA - no PWM, FFC1212DE - 140dBA 54dBA - PWM) and 38mm (TFC1212DE - 252CFM 66dBA PWM) fans laying around I probably won't use again. I have about a dozen each of the 25mm ones, and I think about 20 of the 38mm Deltas (or their Nidec equivalent) though some of the 38mm ones don't have 0.1" headers on yet.

yeah these s-5's with a pair of your delta's the ffc1212de   the 140 cfm  

 I think are nice gear.
I bolded your quote  as It may be a typo.


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January 16, 2015, 04:52:51 PM
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If anyone in Canada is interested and doesn't want to pay shipping and import charges, I have a bunch of 25mm (WFB1212H - 87CFM 37dBA - no PWM, FFC1212DE - 140dBA 54dBA - PWM) and 38mm (TFC1212DE - 252CFM 66dBA PWM) fans laying around I probably won't use again. I have about a dozen each of the 25mm ones, and I think about 20 of the 38mm Deltas (or their Nidec equivalent) though some of the 38mm ones don't have 0.1" headers on yet.

yeah these s-5's with a pair of your delta's the ffc1212de   the 140 cfm  

 I think are nice gear.
I bolded your quote  as It may be a typo.



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January 16, 2015, 05:26:31 PM
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It was a few pages back .  Some one was selling 5 deltas for 41 bucks.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/191443200211?

4 pin pwm's


he now has sets of 2 for 15 + 5 = 20 dollars

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Delta-AFB1212SHE-Computer-Case-Power-Fan-120X120mm-Lot-of-2-/191472588964?pt=US_Computer_Case_Fans&hash=item2c94a7d8a4


truly these are really good if you use  2 in a push pull at  5.5-6 volts they are really quiet and allow for  a 990gh quiet miner. freq 300

if you use 7 volts  they are pretty quiet and allow for freq 325-350

at 9.2 volts they are better then the stock fan and allow overclock.

I did not bother setting them as pwm as I want a freq super quiet miner .  I send 5.5 volts to the fans   and I am doing this.:





oke thanks,
What do you think the noise will be with pwm?
I have my s5's now with s3 fans push - pull, but it is still quite loud! I run them @ 350 or 375
I am thinking of replacing them.
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January 16, 2015, 05:41:36 PM
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It was a few pages back .  Some one was selling 5 deltas for 41 bucks.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/191443200211?

4 pin pwm's


he now has sets of 2 for 15 + 5 = 20 dollars

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Delta-AFB1212SHE-Computer-Case-Power-Fan-120X120mm-Lot-of-2-/191472588964?pt=US_Computer_Case_Fans&hash=item2c94a7d8a4


truly these are really good if you use  2 in a push pull at  5.5-6 volts they are really quiet and allow for  a 990gh quiet miner. freq 300

if you use 7 volts  they are pretty quiet and allow for freq 325-350

at 9.2 volts they are better then the stock fan and allow overclock.

I did not bother setting them as pwm as I want a freq super quiet miner .  I send 5.5 volts to the fans   and I am doing this.:





oke thanks,
What do you think the noise will be with pwm?
I have my s5's now with s3 fans push - pull, but it is still quite loud! I run them @ 350 or 375
I am thinking of replacing them.
the delta's on ebay are better then the s-3 fans but only by a little.

Remember a s-5 at freq is close to 600 watts. at freq 375 it is over 600 watts.

They are a bit better then the s-3 fans.  Somewhere on the forum someone was able to run them pwm. 

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January 16, 2015, 07:34:26 PM
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What is the hash rate, and is noise really so loud?
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What is the hash rate, and is noise really so loud?
No. Noise is quiet.
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Stock S5 is 74 db, its a lot! You need to change the fan to drop the sound.

Delta seems to be the best one!  Wink

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What is the hash rate, and is noise really so loud?


stock settings = 1150gh at freq 350 and sound is 72-74db.  plus it is nasty pitch with the stock fan.



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What is the hash rate, and is noise really so loud?


stock settings = 1150gh at freq 350 and sound is 72-74db.  plus it is nasty pitch with the stick fan.


"nasty pitch", it's closer to a cat being tortured. Worst than those high speed 40mm fans in network switches. I sold my first two (and only) within 24 hours of receiving them. Modding them simply isn't worth the cost.
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What is the hash rate, and is noise really so loud?


stock settings = 1150gh at freq 350 and sound is 72-74db.  plus it is nasty pitch with the stock fan.


"nasty pitch", it's closer to a cat being tortured. Worst than those high speed 40mm fans in network switches. I sold my first two (and only) within 24 hours of receiving them. Modding them simply isn't worth the cost.

the 2 deltas cost 8 bucks each.  but I had a power supply to give them perfect volts

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January 17, 2015, 01:18:19 AM
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Stock S5 is 74 db, its a lot! You need to change the fan to drop the sound.

Delta seems to be the best one!  Wink

Holy cow, one fan makes that much noise. I was a little interested in picking one of these up, but a constant noise that high is a problem. Technology will take care of the electrical problem (how much they hog up), but what's going to take care of cooling these things silently. Whoever makes something like that will have a winner!


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Stock S5 is 74 db, its a lot! You need to change the fan to drop the sound.

Delta seems to be the best one!  Wink

Holy cow, one fan makes that much noise. I was a little interested in picking one of these up, but a constant noise that high is a problem. Technology will take care of the electrical problem (how much they hog up), but what's going to take care of cooling these things silently. Whoever makes something like that will have a winner!



the solution or solutions were posted on multiple threads, if you want to spend money on one or two extra fans (anywhere between $20 to $40). I went with Noctua 3000(push)/Scythe ultra kaze (pull)-good for at least 1100GH at ~58-59C and ONLY ~46dB;powering Scythe through molex directly off the PSU-piece of cake because it comes with an adapter; Noctua connector fits into the same slot as the stock (you have to clip one rail off the connector because it gets in the way). Phil likes two deltas because he found a good deal (two for $20 now, but you have to use an external additional power supply with voltage regulation or it will be louder than I like PLUS these have an unconventional connector).
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January 17, 2015, 02:47:18 PM
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Stock S5 is 74 db, its a lot! You need to change the fan to drop the sound.

Delta seems to be the best one!  Wink

Holy cow, one fan makes that much noise. I was a little interested in picking one of these up, but a constant noise that high is a problem. Technology will take care of the electrical problem (how much they hog up), but what's going to take care of cooling these things silently. Whoever makes something like that will have a winner!



the solution or solutions were posted on multiple threads, if you want to spend money on one or two extra fans (anywhere between $20 to $40). I went with Noctua 3000(push)/Scythe ultra kaze (pull)-good for at least 1100GH at ~58-59C and ONLY ~46dB;powering Scythe through molex directly off the PSU-piece of cake because it comes with an adapter; Noctua connector fits into the same slot as the stock (you have to clip one rail off the connector because it gets in the way). Phil likes two deltas because he found a good deal (two for $20 now, but you have to use an external additional power supply with voltage regulation or it will be louder than I like PLUS these have an unconventional connector).

I am going to show a different way to power it. using a four pin molex I should be able to do 7 volts and directly connect to the psu on the  4 pin molex connection.

this should allow for freq 350 and sound at 56db 

 compared to stock fan freq  350 and sound over 70db

  i  will post a few photos  later today

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I just bought this with 2 delta.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HG9AB1G/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Will see the result soon!  Wink

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I just bought this with 2 delta.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HG9AB1G/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Will see the result soon!  Wink

it says it can do 30 watts the deltas use around 15 watts at top speed.  So as long as you run the fans a bit slower it should handle 2  deltas.

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