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October 30, 2013, 11:39:09 AM
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http://www.nationaljournal.com/health-care/sebelius-blame-contractors-for-obamacare-site-20131029

week after the contractors who built HealthCare.gov blamed the Obama administration for the site’s failures, the administration is shifting the blame right back.....


I'm hearing the design protocol was appropriate for a couple dozen users, not millions.

It doesn't matter how the blame game goes, this is typical government program mis management.

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October 30, 2013, 11:59:50 AM
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http://www.nationaljournal.com/health-care/sebelius-blame-contractors-for-obamacare-site-20131029

week after the contractors who built HealthCare.gov blamed the Obama administration for the site’s failures, the administration is shifting the blame right back.....


I'm hearing the design protocol was appropriate for a couple dozen users, not millions.

It doesn't matter how the blame game goes, this is typical government program mis management.



Its not a government issue: http://www.it-cortex.com/Stat_Failure_Rate.htm

Half of all big projects fail.  Its the nature of these projects.  A delay on a month or 2 is nothing.
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October 30, 2013, 12:19:56 PM
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http://www.nationaljournal.com/health-care/sebelius-blame-contractors-for-obamacare-site-20131029

week after the contractors who built HealthCare.gov blamed the Obama administration for the site’s failures, the administration is shifting the blame right back.....


I'm hearing the design protocol was appropriate for a couple dozen users, not millions.

It doesn't matter how the blame game goes, this is typical government program mis management.



Its not a government issue: http://www.it-cortex.com/Stat_Failure_Rate.htm

Half of all big projects fail.  Its the nature of these projects.  A delay on a month or 2 is nothing.
No, half of all big projects do not fail.  Neither does the linked to marketing brochure have any relevent facts.
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October 30, 2013, 12:29:46 PM
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http://www.nationaljournal.com/health-care/sebelius-blame-contractors-for-obamacare-site-20131029

week after the contractors who built HealthCare.gov blamed the Obama administration for the site’s failures, the administration is shifting the blame right back.....


I'm hearing the design protocol was appropriate for a couple dozen users, not millions.

It doesn't matter how the blame game goes, this is typical government program mis management.



Its not a government issue: http://www.it-cortex.com/Stat_Failure_Rate.htm

Half of all big projects fail.  Its the nature of these projects.  A delay on a month or 2 is nothing.
No, half of all big projects do not fail.  Neither does the linked to marketing brochure have any relevent facts.

Ah of course.  I forgot that you are in a fact free environment.  In the world which really exists, big projects fail and thats just the way it goes.  I'd normally say "google it" but ofc google is packed with facts as well so best not do that.

Make something up?  That seems to work for you.
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October 30, 2013, 03:03:00 PM
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http://www.nationaljournal.com/health-care/sebelius-blame-contractors-for-obamacare-site-20131029

week after the contractors who built HealthCare.gov blamed the Obama administration for the site’s failures, the administration is shifting the blame right back.....


I'm hearing the design protocol was appropriate for a couple dozen users, not millions.

It doesn't matter how the blame game goes, this is typical government program mis management.



Its not a government issue: http://www.it-cortex.com/Stat_Failure_Rate.htm

Half of all big projects fail.  Its the nature of these projects.  A delay on a month or 2 is nothing.
No, half of all big projects do not fail.  Neither does the linked to marketing brochure have any relevent facts.

Ah of course.  I forgot that you are in a fact free environment.  In the world which really exists, big projects fail and thats just the way it goes.  I'd normally say "google it" but ofc google is packed with facts as well so best not do that.

Make something up?  That seems to work for you.
No.  I just happen to have been involved in big projects for decades.

Yes, including code driven stuff.

Look, it's not helpful to try to play the blame game, mis direct or reframe the questions or issues.  Those approaches don't yield solutions - they just provide political cover.

We are seeking the software implementation of Obamacare as what it is.

A giant fuck up.

But ignore that and keep saying ridiculous things.  Let me quote your last really good one referencing the Obamacare website, Healthcare.gov:

"Its not a government issue:"
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October 30, 2013, 09:43:37 PM
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http://www.nationaljournal.com/health-care/sebelius-blame-contractors-for-obamacare-site-20131029

week after the contractors who built HealthCare.gov blamed the Obama administration for the site’s failures, the administration is shifting the blame right back.....


I'm hearing the design protocol was appropriate for a couple dozen users, not millions.

It doesn't matter how the blame game goes, this is typical government program mis management.



Its not a government issue: http://www.it-cortex.com/Stat_Failure_Rate.htm

Half of all big projects fail.  Its the nature of these projects.  A delay on a month or 2 is nothing.
No, half of all big projects do not fail.  Neither does the linked to marketing brochure have any relevent facts.

Ah of course.  I forgot that you are in a fact free environment.  In the world which really exists, big projects fail and thats just the way it goes.  I'd normally say "google it" but ofc google is packed with facts as well so best not do that.

Make something up?  That seems to work for you.
No.  I just happen to have been involved in big projects for decades.

Yes, including code driven stuff.

Look, it's not helpful to try to play the blame game, mis direct or reframe the questions or issues.  Those approaches don't yield solutions - they just provide political cover.

We are seeking the software implementation of Obamacare as what it is.

A giant fuck up.

But ignore that and keep saying ridiculous things.  Let me quote your last really good one referencing the Obamacare website, Healthcare.gov:

"Its not a government issue:"


LOOOL!!!
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October 31, 2013, 05:58:12 PM
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http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2013/10/30/ObamaCare-launched-after-failing-HUNDREDS-of-tests


The hits just keep coming.  Every time we think the full depth of the Administration's incompetence and mendacity has been plumbed, a fresh bombshell revelation detonates. 

Here's a new report from the mainstream media's most persistent Obama gadfly, Sharyl Attkisson, in which we learn the exchange system failed hundreds of tests administered by employees of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services. These were the simplest sort of "beta" tests, the kind of thing I used to do all the time in my IT career. You plug in some simple manufactured data and see if the system can swallow it and regurgitate on command.

http://youtu.be/eDtF887eXHo

The tests were postponed until late September—an early warning sign of disaster that was kept hidden from the American people. When they finally occurred, they were a complete failure. The system "ground to a halt," "froze," and "crashed" under the lightest and most rudimentary data entry by a tiny pool of CMS testers.

"It was unequivocally clear from testing this wasn't ready," was the conclusion forwarded to HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius... who serenely ignored these desperate warnings and launched anyway. And worse, the head of CMS said the site's issues "did not show up in testing" during testimony on Tuesday.

Attkisson is carefully willing to allow for the possibility that this was incompetence on a cosmic scale, rather than perjured testimony, by suggesting CMS honcho Marilyn Tavenner might simply have been completely unaware that several rounds of testing resulted in red-alert warnings from her own agency. I find that rather difficult to believe, and I suspect the redoubtable Ms. Attkisson does, too. But a lot of unbelievable things have been happening lately, haven't they?

At the very least, this makes mincemeat of the last quivering chunks of that stupid "so popular we couldn't keep up with demand!" excuse peddled by the Administration for the ObamaCare crash, and should serve as another mortal blow to both the Affordable Care Act and the Democrats' entire philosophy of super-intelligent central planning by an all-wise, supremely capable government.

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November 01, 2013, 03:13:47 AM
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.... should serve as another mortal blow to both the Affordable Care Act and the Democrats' entire philosophy of super-intelligent central planning by an all-wise, supremely capable government.


We need some reporters to wise up like that. 
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November 01, 2013, 04:06:58 PM
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http://money.cnn.com/2013/11/01/smallbusiness/sex-workers-obamacare/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

A burlesque dancer dressed as a nurse taunts her co-performer with a toy syringe, dangling the medicine seductively in an act that’s meant to reflect the cat-and-mouse game of U.S. healthcare. They shimmy and eventually end up topless.

The risqué performance was part of an Obamacare registration drive last week in San Francisco, dubbed the “Healthy Ho’s Party.”

Organized by “Siouxsie Q,” a Bay Area sex worker, the event was meant to encourage other sex workers to enroll in the new insurance exchanges. It was a rousing success: Nearly 40 men and women attended and almost all of them filed enrollment paperwork.

In the all-cash, off-the-books sex industry, workers can be particularly high risk and insurance is often out of reach. Many sex workers — a broad term that can refer to a number of services, including sexual massage, prostitution, and escort and dominatrix work — consider themselves self-employed entrepreneurs who can’t afford to purchase healthcare. But that could all change with the Affordable Care Act.

Siouxsie, 28, has shopped for plans countless times since 2008, coming up empty each time. She and her partner recently reviewed their healthcare options and found that a joint plan would have cost between $400 and $500 a month — an unaffordably large chunk of their incomes.

“We just couldn’t swing [insurance] in the Bay Area — we’re lower middle class, recent college graduates, in Startup Land trying to make our way,” she said.

But come January 1, when the new law goes into effect, she and her partner will be looking at a monthly bill of between $175 and $200. They’re deciding between two plans on the California exchange and will receive a tax credit of about $275 a month (without the credit it would have cost nearly $500).
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November 01, 2013, 10:54:37 PM
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I'm glad at least our most important providers of entertainment will be insured
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November 02, 2013, 12:53:21 AM
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I'm glad at least our most important providers of entertainment will be insured

I am glad our most important providers of enterttainment will have their tax returns fully vetted. Full access to Medicaid.
Free access of Kiwi Shoe Polish for their pimps for life.  Wink
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November 02, 2013, 10:19:48 PM
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I'm glad at least our most important providers of entertainment will be insured

I am glad our most important providers of enterttainment will have their tax returns fully vetted. Full access to Medicaid.

You do realize that the only reason that they have such low 'taxable' reported incomes is because they don't tell the truth about all the cash profit, right?  Do you really think that full-time professional sex workers in California only make $25K per year?  Seriously, would you do that kind of work for that?  If they don't make four times that much, they couldn't afford to live in California.  They only qualify for medicaid because the government buys their BS.

They aren't going to have their tax returns "fully vetted". Ever.  If you have a job that removes your income tax from your wages before you get it, then you're subsidizing their (high risk) lifestyles.

If that idea offends you, to bad! It's the law of the land, after all! We can't possibly change a law once it's passed (by one vote)!  Whoever has even heard of changing an "established law"?  Next you'll be telling me that slavery was banned in every modern society on Earth!  Such nonesense!

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

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November 02, 2013, 10:51:01 PM
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You do realize that the only reason that they have such low 'taxable' reported incomes is because they don't tell the truth about all the cash profit, right?  Do you really think that full-time professional sex workers in California only make $25K per year?  Seriously, would you do that kind of work for that?  If they don't make four times that much, they couldn't afford to live in California.  They only qualify for medicaid because the government buys their BS.

They aren't going to have their tax returns "fully vetted". Ever.  If you have a job that removes your income tax from your wages before you get it, then you're subsidizing their (high risk) lifestyles.....
Tax returns?Huh

You do realize that one of the goals of this scam is to move all the undocumented people into the tax system, right?  They can only get their 'subsidies or free health care' if they are in the system.
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November 02, 2013, 11:11:25 PM
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You do realize that the only reason that they have such low 'taxable' reported incomes is because they don't tell the truth about all the cash profit, right?  Do you really think that full-time professional sex workers in California only make $25K per year?  Seriously, would you do that kind of work for that?  If they don't make four times that much, they couldn't afford to live in California.  They only qualify for medicaid because the government buys their BS.

They aren't going to have their tax returns "fully vetted". Ever.  If you have a job that removes your income tax from your wages before you get it, then you're subsidizing their (high risk) lifestyles.....
Tax returns?Huh

You do realize that one of the goals of this scam is to move all the undocumented people into the tax system, right?  They can only get their 'subsidies or free health care' if they are in the system.

Bullshit.  These sex workers aren't undocumented.  They file returns, they just lie about how much they really make.  Waitresses do it, restaurant owners do it; just about any cash dominated business does it to some degree.  That's a rational (although arguablely immoral, and certainly illegal) response to the tax policies of the US.  Tax avoidance and tax evasion are two terms that describe exactly the same activity, where one is considered criminal and the other is not.  Cash transactions have the same annoying feature, so vilified by government agencies, that Bitcoin has; in the sense that a cash transaction, between two parties that don't have a reason to involve the government, doesn't leave a paper trail.  For all intents and purposes, if there is no paper trail, then no taxable event ever occurred.  So what good does drawing in the "undocumented" workers do?  Only the stupid & largely unsuccessful are going to trade their anonimity for a $200 per month health care subsidy anyway.  I've known a few 'undocumetned' workers in my time, and in my experience these people aren't going to be signing up for this kind of thing anyway.   It wouldn't work for them, since most of them have regular jobs anyway.  What they do is, the jump the border fence and spend a few days with a 'documented' relative.  they gather up his personal information, including his tax id number, and 'become' him in another area of town, or even in another state.  These duplicates never file for taxes, and never get any benefits; but the original guy with the tax id is working 6000 hours per year, working four different jobs, claiming 6 kids, and probably getting back more in his tax returns than he actually (personally) paid into it.  The only guy that could file for a subisty is the one guy with the tax id number, and he makes too much money to bother.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

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November 03, 2013, 03:01:52 PM
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You do realize that the only reason that they have such low 'taxable' reported incomes is because they don't tell the truth about all the cash profit, right?  Do you really think that full-time professional sex workers in California only make $25K per year?  Seriously, would you do that kind of work for that?  If they don't make four times that much, they couldn't afford to live in California.  They only qualify for medicaid because the government buys their BS.

They aren't going to have their tax returns "fully vetted". Ever.  If you have a job that removes your income tax from your wages before you get it, then you're subsidizing their (high risk) lifestyles.....
Tax returns?Huh

You do realize that one of the goals of this scam is to move all the undocumented people into the tax system, right?  They can only get their 'subsidies or free health care' if they are in the system.

Bullshit.  These sex workers aren't undocumented.  They file returns, they just lie about how much they really make.  Waitresses do it, restaurant owners do it; just about any cash dominated business does it to some degree.  That's a rational (although arguablely immoral, and certainly illegal) response to the tax policies of the US.  Tax avoidance and tax evasion are two terms that describe exactly the same activity, where one is considered criminal and the other is not.  Cash transactions have the same annoying feature, so vilified by government agencies, that Bitcoin has; in the sense that a cash transaction, between two parties that don't have a reason to involve the government, doesn't leave a paper trail. ....
I've noticed, in talking to my friends about Bitcoin, that they have largely forgotten these attributes of cash.  They have been steeped in a tracable credit card economy for so long that untracable transactions and/or how to account for them is a new concept.

Unfortunately this only shows the lack of whores amongst my friends....lol..
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November 03, 2013, 03:52:26 PM
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http://www.scribd.com/doc/181039999/Memo-from-David-Cutler-on-health-reform-implementation

Here is an implementation memo sent by David Cutler to Larry Summers relaying his concerns about the health reform legislation.


To: Larry Summers
From: David Cutler
Subject: Urgent Need for Changes in Health Reform Implementation

I am writing to relay my concern about the way the Administration is implementing the new health reform legislation. I am concerned that the personnel and processes you have in  place are not up to the task, and that health reform will be unsuccessful as a result. Let me start by reminding you that I have been a very active supporter of reform. In addition to being the senior health care advisor to the President’s campaign, I worked closely with the Administration, helped Congress draft the legislation, met with countless Members of Congress and interest groups to explain the reform effort, conducted numerous radio and television interviews, walked hundreds of reporters through health care, and wrote a number of op-eds and issue briefs supporting reform. I am told that the President and senior members of the Administration valued my input, though I was never offered a position in the Administration. I say this to illustrate that I have thought about the issues a good deal and have discussed them with many people. You should also note that while this memo is my own, the views are widely shared, including by many members of your administration (whose names I will omit but who are sufficiently nervous to urge me to write), as well as by knowledgeable outsiders such as Mark McClellan (former CMS administrator) and Henry Aaron (Brookings). Indeed, I have been at a conference on health reform the past two days, and have found not a single person who disagrees with the urgent need for action. My general view is that the early implementation efforts are far short of what it will take to implement reform successfully. For health reform to be successful, the relevant people need a vision about health system transformation and the managerial ability to carry out that vision. The President has sketched out such a vision. However,
I do not believe the relevant members of the Administration understand the President’s vision or have the capability to carry it out.
 Let me illustrate the problem you face and offer some solutions.
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November 04, 2013, 08:38:10 PM
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... not individuals

http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/04/obama-admin-repeatedly-modified-grandfathering-rules-to-benefit-big-business-not-individuals/

In June 2010, less than three months after Obamacare was signed into law, Health & Human Services released initial regulations regarding “grandfathering” of insurance plans, defining which types of existing plans could continue to exist without meeting the new law’s standards.

By HHS’s own admission, most of the 17 million people in the individual market would be forced into transitioning to new ACA-compliant plans “sooner rather than later.”

“The 17 million people who are covered in the individual health insurance market, where switching of plans and substantial changes in coverage are common, will receive the new protections of the Affordable Care Act sooner rather than later,” a press release from the time showed. “Roughly 40 percent to two-thirds of people in individual market policies normally change plans within a year. In the short run, individuals whose plan changes and is no longer grandfathered will gain access to free preventive services, protections against restricted annual limits, and patient protections such as improved access to emergency rooms.”

By comparison, the prognosis for Big Business was much more favorable, according to another contemporaneous press release.

“The 133 million Americans with employer-sponsored health insurance through large employers (100 or more workers) —who make up the vast majority of those with private health insurance today—will not see major changes to their coverage as a result of this regulation,” the release said then. “This regulation affirms that most of these plans will remain grandfathered – more than three-quarters of firms in 2011…”

In November 2010, HHS modified the regulation to provide even further flexibility for larger companies, even allowing them to change insurance providers without losing grandfathered status, despite already giving them favorable treatment. According to the HHS fact-check:

          “Previously, one of the ways an employer group health plan could lose its grandfather status was if the employer changed issuers – switching from one insurance company to another. The original regulation only allowed self-funded plans to change third-party administrators without necessarily losing their grandfathered plan status. Today’s amendment allows all group health plans to switch insurance companies and shop for the same coverage at a lower cost while maintaining their grandfathered status, so long as the structure of the coverage doesn’t violate one of the other rules for maintaining grandfathered plan status.”
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... not individuals

http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/04/obama-admin-repeatedly-modified-grandfathering-rules-to-benefit-big-business-not-individuals/

In June 2010, less than three months after Obamacare was signed into law, Health & Human Services released initial regulations....
So you mean Obama screwed all the little people that voted for him?  The same people that were trained like puppets to hate Bush everywhere they looked?  The people that were dazzled by phrases like 'hope and change' without even questioning what hope for what change?

Don't they kind of deserve what they are getting here?

Either with McCain or Romney all this total lying and disregard for humanity would not be occurring.  The fundamental dishonesty of this President is no longer astonishing, and it is just a dismal everyday reality. 

Granted there'd be quite a few things I wouldn't be liking about either the McCain or Romney alternatives that were presented to us as choosable alternatives...
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November 05, 2013, 09:12:43 PM
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Either with McCain or Romney all this total lying and disregard for humanity would not be occurring.

 Grin

Ok, I'll give you the first one, but only because instead of lying, there would be a lot of sleeping and snoring. Though I am not sure I would have been able to handle 4 years of "Don'cha'no" and compulsive winking...

Romney was lying throughout his campaign, too. They all always are. It's their job.
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Either with McCain or Romney all this total lying and disregard for humanity would not be occurring.

 Grin

Ok, I'll give you the first one, but only because instead of lying, there would be a lot of sleeping and snoring. Though I am not sure I would have been able to handle 4 years of "Don'cha'no" and compulsive winking...

Romney was lying throughout his campaign, too. They all always are. It's their job.
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