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[Spendulus]

Second Amendment: The administration's choice to be the nation's doctor in chief views gun ownership as a public health issue....

I have to agree with this.  It's for reasons of not getting assaulted, maimed, raped or killed that we want to have guns.  Otherwise the health care system would have to absorb all the costs of that violence.

[Wilikon]

Second Amendment: The administration's choice to be the nation's doctor in chief views gun ownership as a public health issue....

I have to agree with this.  It's for reasons of not getting assaulted, maimed, raped or killed that we want to have guns.  Otherwise the health care system would have to absorb all the costs of that violence.

In that case healthcare will help a lot by aborting now all the people responsible for all future assaults, rapes and killing. But that is only one half of the solution. Through questioning of the children about their parents owning guns, appropriate treatments will be imposed to make them sterile, thus reducing the number of them for a better, more equal society we can all enjoy in that magnificent future: a gun free zone planet.

[Spendulus]

Second Amendment: The administration's choice to be the nation's doctor in chief views gun ownership as a public health issue....

I have to agree with this.  It's for reasons of not getting assaulted, maimed, raped or killed that we want to have guns.  Otherwise the health care system would have to absorb all the costs of that violence.

In that case healthcare will help a lot by aborting now all the people responsible for all future assaults, rapes and killing. But that is only one half of the solution. Through questioning of the children about their parents owning guns, appropriate treatments will be imposed to make them sterile, thus reducing the number of them for a better, more equal society we can all enjoy in that magnificent future: a gun free zone planet.

More likely the children are questioned, a database is developed of who has guns, and the sniveling crackheads gain access and only visit houses where there are no guns.

Another advantage of guns.

Just amazing what they can do for you!

[Wilikon]

Second Amendment: The administration's choice to be the nation's doctor in chief views gun ownership as a public health issue....

I have to agree with this.  It's for reasons of not getting assaulted, maimed, raped or killed that we want to have guns.  Otherwise the health care system would have to absorb all the costs of that violence.

In that case healthcare will help a lot by aborting now all the people responsible for all future assaults, rapes and killing. But that is only one half of the solution. Through questioning of the children about their parents owning guns, appropriate treatments will be imposed to make them sterile, thus reducing the number of them for a better, more equal society we can all enjoy in that magnificent future: a gun free zone planet.

More likely the children are questioned, a database is developed of who has guns, and the sniveling crackheads gain access and only visit houses where there are no guns.

Another advantage of guns.

Just amazing what they can do for you!

The "visits" will be simplified, thanks to a free app you can install on your smart phone, thanks to your favorite local newspaper
http://archive.lohud.com/interactive/article/20121223/NEWS01/121221011/Map-Where-gun-permits-your-neighborhood-

[Spendulus]

"Since the intended victim of the armed breaking would have had a blood pressure  of zero after the event, the fact that he had a gun and defended himself resulted in his blood pressure being 120/80." read the prominent headline in the MediaToUsMatters and ThunkProgress blogs.

Clearly an extreme rise in blood pressure which can predictably and reliably be said to result in high future medical costs due to increased incidence of heart disease.

The ObamaDoc continued.  "These medical costs of the non-deceased will be a burden on the greater of society."

[Wilikon]

On March 6, 2014, President Obama conducted a town hall meeting with Spanish-language media regarding the Affordable Care Act (ACA), also known as Obamacare. He was asked about the concerns of many Latinos that the law is simply too expensive. He suggested that some families may be spending too much on cable television or cell phones, and not enough on health insurance.


http://youtu.be/ijQIJAK0NFA

[Wilikon]

ObamaCare’s implementers continue to roam the battlefield and shoot their own wounded, and the latest casualty is the core of the Affordable Care Act—the individual mandate. To wit, last week the Administration quietly excused millions of people from the requirement to purchase health insurance or else pay a tax penalty.

This latest political reconstruction has received zero media notice, and the Health and Human Services Department didn’t think the details were worth discussing in a conference call, press materials or fact sheet. Instead, the mandate suspension was buried in an unrelated rule that was meant to preserve some health plans that don’t comply with ObamaCare benefit and redistribution mandates. Our sources only noticed the change this week.

That seven-page technical bulletin includes a paragraph and footnote that casually mention that a rule in a separate December 2013 bulletin would be extended for two more years, until 2016. Lo and behold, it turns out this second rule, which was supposed to last for only a year, allows Americans whose coverage was cancelled to opt out of the mandate altogether.

In 2013, HHS decided that ObamaCare’s wave of policy terminations qualified as a “hardship” that entitled people to a special type of coverage designed for people under age 30 or a mandate exemption. HHS originally defined and reserved hardship exemptions for the truly down and out such as battered women, the evicted and bankrupts.

But amid the post-rollout political backlash, last week the agency created a new category: Now all you need to do is fill out a form attesting that your plan was cancelled and that you “believe that the plan options available in the [ObamaCare] Marketplace in your area are more expensive than your cancelled health insurance policy” or “you consider other available policies unaffordable.”

This lax standard—no formula or hard test beyond a person’s belief—at least ostensibly requires proof such as an insurer termination notice. But people can also qualify for hardships for the unspecified nonreason that “you experienced another hardship in obtaining health insurance,” which only requires “documentation if possible.” And yet another waiver is available to those who say they are merely unable to afford coverage, regardless of their prior insurance. In a word, these shifting legal benchmarks offer an exemption to everyone who conceivably wants one.


http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304250204579433312607325596?mg=reno64-wsj

[dotcom]

I am surprised to not see any discussion here about US health care mandate (Obamacare). I am guessing it is because there is a pretty large international user base here. I usually lurk but I guess I have to make my own thread this time.

Why is it the best thing since sliced bread?
Why will it cause the world to end?

So lets discuss in hopefully less extreme manner than the two above questions.






I am against the individual mandate but you can't pay for it without the individual mandate. Since you can't have the good without the bad in this case, I would rather not have it at all.

>be me
>be a hospital
>overcharge the living shit out of everything
>doesn't matter cuz people have insurance
>lose minor profits because some people don't have insurance
>government offers insurance to everyone

Can you say escalation?

[Wilikon]

http://youtu.be/Wwm8J6y81GM

[Wilikon]

http://youtu.be/vvwS62yggd4

[Spendulus]

...He suggested that some families may be spending too much on cable television or cell phones, and not enough on health insurance.
http://youtu.be/ijQIJAK0NFA

Huh.  Yep he actually did say that, with that continual little sneer that never seems to go away.

Of course, Bush wouldn't have insulted them, and would have held the discussion in fluent Spanish.

Hmm....

[Wilikon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnixc0lmiQc

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[Wilikon]

President Obama's team at the Department of Health and Human Services has a plan to prevent insurance companies from sending out politically toxic cancellation notices by making it easier for companies to modify existing plans without officially canceling them.

HHS unveiled the idea late Friday. "We propose that a modification made solely pursuant to applicable Federal or State law would be considered a modification of coverage rather than a product withdrawal," the draft regulation states. "These modifications could include changes required to comply with Affordable Care Act standards (such as elimination of a prohibited annual limit) and changes permitted based on updated standards (such as increasing an annual limitation on cost sharing based on the annual increase in the limit permitted as a result of the application of the premium adjustment percentage)."

The law allowed plans that were in effect when President Obama signed Obamacare to be "grandfathered" into the new system, but HHS regulations made it very difficult to retain that grandfathered status.

"Once a plan loses grandfathered status, it is subject to all of the other regulations within Obamacare, which is why so many Americans are losing their current coverage," Philip Klein explained in October.

The proposed rule would loosen those grandfathering requirements. "We believe these proposed standards will minimize unnecessary terminations of coverage, ensuring predictability and continuity for consumers, while reasonably providing issuers the flexibility to make necessary adjustments to coverage," the proposed regulation states.

It's not the first time that Democrats have tried to avoid the cancellation label -- Rep. Sander Levin, D-Mich., for instance, argued that the "so-called cancellation notices ... help people transition to a new policy" but it might be the most effective.

Politico Pulse predicted that the rule "would sharply limit health plan cancellations, just several months after a wave of canceled policies led to a political firestorm that put the White House on its heels."

http://washingtonexaminer.com/obamacare-rule-would-let-insurance-companies-modify-plans-to-cut-down-on-cancellation-notices/article/2545797

[Wilikon]

[Wilikon]

With roughly two weeks left in the open enrollment period for health insurance, some groups are trying to sell Obamacare to young people in terms they might actually understand: music, comedy, and cash. Young Invincibles, a nonprofit organization based in Washington, D.C. that is focused on the economic issues affecting young adults, launched a sweepstakes last week where it is awarding a cash prize of $1,200 — enough to potentially cover a year’s worth of health insurance premiums for a young adult — to people who download their health care app or submit a card in the mail. The contest runs through the fall, but by launching it now, organizers hope young people who download the app can use it to learn more about whether they qualify for financial assistance and where they should go to sign up….Young people are particularly lagging behind in other groups in signing up. So far, 25% of those who have selected private plans are between the ages of 18 and 34. Administration officials have said repeatedly that they expect young and healthy people to put off signing up for insurance until the last minute. So groups are getting creative with their approach in the final push.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/cash-prizes-for-signing-up-for-obamacare-2014-03-14?link=sfmw_sm

[Wilikon]

50 States of Obamacare Victims

http://youtu.be/gFDm0mGhcdg



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Ellen DeGeneres Interviews Obama: "I Think Everyone's Very Grateful" For Obamacare

ELLEN DEGENERES: It’s doing very, very well. I think it surprised — it had a rough start, but you’ve got 5 million people that have signed up so far. Which is an enormous number of people have signed up, so it’s successful. … Well, people are starting to applaud here. I think that everyone’s very grateful that you did this. And I think it is important for people to sign up and to — it’s just better to be covered.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/03/20/ellen_degeneres_interviews_obama_i_think_everyones_very_grateful_for_obamacare.html

[Wilikon]

OBAMACARE NAVIGATORS HELPING PEOPLE ENROLL AT MEXICAN CONSULATES

The Obama administration has been helping to facilitate a series of events nationwide at Mexican Consulate offices to enroll people in Obamacare – and a key activist says the efforts are “our responsibility” regardless of citizenship.

“Whether they’re Mexican nationals or whether they’re United States citizens or whether they’re in transition– and if they’re there it is our responsibility within all of America to educate on the Affordable Care Act,” Enroll America Field Organizer Jose Medrano told Breitbart News on Wednesday.

Health Care insurance navigator groups hosted an Obamacare enrollment fair on Tuesday in the Mexican Consulate’s Brownsville office, The Rio Grande Guardian reported last Friday, where Mexican nationals among others were counseled about enrolling in the ACA.

“The Mexican consulate is a very reliable source of information to the Latino community. And therefore when they host their events, yesterday being the health fair, there are several hundred people that show up,” Medrano said.

Under the Affordable Care Act (ACA) undocumented immigrants aren’t supposed to be receiving government-run health benefits or subsidized coverage. However, President Barack Obama told Latinos in early March that the Healthcare.gov website would not be used to find out about an individual’s immigration status.



http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/03/27/Obamacare-Navigators-Help-Enroll-At-Mexican-Consulates

[Wilikon]

A top of advisor to President Barack Obama is in Los Angeles to try to get Obamacare written into scripts of TV shows and movies. Valerie Jarrett explained in an appearance on Top That! on PopSugar.com:

“That’s the cool thing,” a host said to the presidential advisor. “You’ve been reaching out to people that are, you know, outside of the norm of what the president might work with. Who else are you working with? Like celebrities, personalities, things like that?”

“You name it,” said Jarrett. “That’s part of why I’m in L.A. I’m meeting with writers of various TV shows and movies to try to get it into the scripts.” When Jarrett says “it into the scripts,” she’s referring to getting references to Obamacare, the president’s signature legislation, into the scripts of TV shows and movies.

http://youtu.be/PzRwc5Y8c6g


http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/valerie-jarrett-hollywood-get-obamacare-movie-tv-scripts_786176.html

[Wilikon]

Local couple upset after receiving pre-marked voter registration card from Covered California



A local couple called 10News concerned after they received an envelope from the state’s Obamacare website, Covered California. Inside was a letter discussing voter registration and a registration card pre-marked with an “x” in the box next to Democratic Party.

The couple – who did not want their identity revealed – received the letter and voter registration card from their health insurance provider Covered California, the state-run agency that implements President Obama’s Affordable Care Act.

They have lived in La Mesa for years and they have always been registered to vote Republican. Now, they are perplexed as to how the voter registration card pre-marked Democrat ended up in their mailbox.

“I’m an old guy and I never would have noticed it, except I have an accountant that notices every dot and dash on a piece of paper as a wife,” said the man who received the mailer.

Covered California began mailing out voter signup cards to nearly 4 million enrollees last week after being threatened with a lawsuit by voting rights groups. But that does not explain the pre-filled out voter registration card.


http://www.10news.com/news/local-couple-upset-after-receiving-pre-marked-voter-registration-card-from-covered-california-03282014

[BigBrother]

Who said that it cause the world to end? US health care works very good