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February 21, 2014, 02:41:14 AM
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February 21, 2014, 12:50:56 PM
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I think Obamacare is a step in the right direction but still some problems. There's no system that has no problems  the question is about how to solve the problems

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February 21, 2014, 06:42:28 PM
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I think Obamacare is a step in the right direction but still some problems. There's no system that has no problems  the question is about how to solve the problems


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February 21, 2014, 09:17:02 PM
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I think Obamacare is a step in the right direction but still some problems. There's no system that has no problems  the question is about how to solve the problems
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February 22, 2014, 12:21:23 AM
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I think Obamacare is a step in the right direction but still some problems. There's no system that has no problems  the question is about how to solve the problems

Did that attempt hurt?

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

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February 28, 2014, 04:43:39 PM
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A Florida TV station reports that a man has spent 50-60 hours trying to cancel his Obamacare plan, and he still can't get off it:

"We are hearing about a new problem that involves the Affordable Care Act," said the anchor. "People who signed up for coverage are finding it impossible to cancel their plans. Channel 9's Lori Brown spoke with an Orlando man who has been trying unsuccessfully to cancel for more than six weeks now."

"Andrew Robinson was looking forward to getting health insurance through the Affordable Care Act. He has a small publishing business and works part time, so he hasn't had coverage. In early January he signed up for a plan that cost nearly $300 a month. About a half hour later he and his wife realized they could barely afford that. They quickly found a less expensive plan through Humana for $116 a month," says the reporter.

"I immediately called back the Florida Blue and asked them to cancel the policy I just set up," says Robinson.

"But he quickly learned canceling Obamacare is no easy task. ... More than six weeks later after spending 50 to 60 hours on the phone his policy is still not canceled and he is still waiting for the payment Florida Blue withdrew from his account to be refunded."

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obamacare-enrollees-finding-it-impossible-cancel-their-plans_783599.html



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March 01, 2014, 06:23:00 PM
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A Florida TV station reports that a man has spent 50-60 hours trying to cancel his Obamacare plan, and he still can't get off it:

"We are hearing about a new problem that involves the Affordable Care Act," said the anchor. "People who signed up for coverage are finding it impossible to cancel their plans. Channel 9's Lori Brown spoke with an Orlando man who has been trying unsuccessfully to cancel for more than six weeks now."
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When you going to start being reasonable?

Next you going to be thinking you should be able to check into an Obamacare funded hospital, and check out?
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March 03, 2014, 08:03:35 PM
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Progressive billionaire George Soros and the Obama administration help fund the Chicago nonprofit that set up Obamacare enrollment programs for prison inmates.

Chicago-based Treatment Alternatives for Safe Communities (TASC) helped establish Obamacare enrollment programs for prisoners at Chicago’s Cook County Jail. Cook County is one of at least six states and counties enrolling prisoners to help shift inmate medical costs to federal taxpayers.

“A lot of states will come to this, because state corrections budgets are huge and county jail budgets are huge,” said TASC spokesperson Maureen McDonnell.

TASC, a 501(c)(3) not-for-profit corporation, is funded by Soros’ Open Society Foundations and the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), records reveal.

Soros’ foundation and HHS’ Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration are part of a small group of TASC donors that includes Cook County, the city of Chicago, and the state of Illinois’ Department of Corrections, Department of Human Services, and Department of Children and Family Services.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/02/george-soros-and-obama-administration-fund-chicago-group-enrolling-prisoners-in-obamacare/
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March 03, 2014, 08:16:24 PM
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Nearly 4,000 applicants for a state program that provides undocumented immigrants with pregnancy services were instead enrolled in full Oregon Health Plan coverage, contrary to federal law, thanks to problems with the Cover Oregon health insurance exchange.

State officials say they discovered the problem several weeks ago and are correcting it.

The pregnancy program goof, however, is just one of many little-known problems that Oregon Health Plan members, providers, care groups and state officials have wrestled with as Oregon’s system for enrolling people undergoes chaotic change.

It’s the flip side of the Cover Oregon debacle, where much of the attention has focused on the travails of people applying for private or commercial insurance.

Two thirds of Cover Oregon’s enrollments — more than 70,000 — have gone into the low-income Oregon Health Plan, the state’s version of Medicaid. Combined with other enrollments since Oct. 1, OHP membership has swelled by more than 200,000, or about a third  — a favorite talking point of state officials.

http://www.oregonlive.com/health/index.ssf/2014/03/cover_oregon_health_insurance_1.html

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March 04, 2014, 03:47:05 PM
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The Obama administration is set to announce another major delay in implementing the Affordable Care Act, easing election pressure on Democrats.

As early as this week, according to two sources, the White House will announce a new directive allowing insurers to continue offering health plans that do not meet ObamaCare’s minimum coverage requirements.

Prolonging the “keep your plan” fix will avoid another wave of health policy cancellations otherwise expected this fall.
The cancellations would have created a firestorm for Democratic candidates in the last, crucial weeks before Election Day.

The White House is intent on protecting its allies in the Senate, where Democrats face a battle to keep control of the chamber.

“I don’t see how they could have a bunch of these announcements going out in September,” one consultant in the health insurance industry said. “Not when they’re trying to defend the Senate and keep their losses at a minimum in the House. This is not something to have out there right before the election.”

The White House and the Department of Health and Human Services on Monday both said they had no updates to announce.

Late last year, the administration was grappling with the beleaguered HealthCare.gov and millions of canceled health plans in the individual market.

http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/199784-new-obamacare-delay-to-help-midterm-dems
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March 04, 2014, 03:51:18 PM
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The liberals rigged the election, They got the illegals to vote with fake id's and they all voted for Obama because he was black and talked a cool game about helping out the poor and being anti-war but now everyone sees he is full of shit.

It's 2014, Wars are still going on, Obamacare aka unaffordable care act is a blatant scam to line the pockets of the insurance companies.


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March 04, 2014, 04:30:23 PM
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The liberals rigged the election, They got the illegals to vote with fake id's and they all voted for Obama because he was black and talked a cool game about helping out the poor and being anti-war but now everyone sees he is full of shit.

It's 2014, Wars are still going on, Obamacare aka unaffordable care act is a blatant scam to line the pockets of the insurance companies.



Well on that last point even the players got played (talk about a long con...):

Americans hate health insurance companies. They are easy targets for everyone to beat up on. When premiums go up, we blame insurance companies; we do not blame the underlying hospitals or physicians who charge high prices that drive up insurance costs. When people with cancer, heart attacks, or other diseases are denied insurance, we blame insurance companies; we do not blame the underlying voluntary insurance market that necessitates underwriting. When our wish for a new high-priced drug is denied, we blame insurance companies; we do not blame drug companies that set the price at over $100,000. Politicians can always elicit an applause by attacking the health insurance companies, reinforcing this bad-guy image of insurance companies.

This is not to say that insurance companies are angels, but they are also not the devil incarnate. A lot of what people consider to be their bad behavior is the inevitable result of the way the health care system is structured and how it incentivizes and forces certain behaviors.

The good news is you won’t have insurance companies to kick around much longer. The system is changing. As a result, insurance companies as they are now will be going away. Indeed, they are already evolving. For the next few years insurance companies will both continue to provide services to employers and, increasingly, compete against each other in the health insurance exchanges. In that role they will put together networks of physicians and hospitals and other services and set a premium. But because of health care reform, new actors will force insurance companies to evolve or become extinct…

…In January 2012 Jeffrey Liebman and I predicted in The New York Times the end of health insurance companies by 2020. We might have been a bit optimistic—or provocative. But it is certain they will end. Insurance companies will largely cease to be the middle man—taking premiums, paying providers, saying no to consumers, and making a profit—that we blame. Whether we will come to love them is another matter. That depends on how well they actually care for patients.

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/116752/ezekiel-emanuel-book-excerpt-end-health-insurance-companies
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March 04, 2014, 09:03:08 PM
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The liberals rigged the election, They got the illegals to vote with fake id's and they all voted for Obama because he was black and talked a cool game about helping out the poor and being anti-war but now everyone sees he is full of shit.

It's 2014, Wars are still going on, Obamacare aka unaffordable care act is a blatant scam to line the pockets of the insurance companies.



Well on that last point even the players got played (talk about a long con...):

Americans hate health insurance companies. They are easy targets for everyone to beat up on. When premiums go up, we blame insurance companies; we do not blame the underlying hospitals or physicians who charge high prices that drive up insurance costs. When people with cancer, heart attacks, or other diseases are denied insurance, we blame insurance companies; we do not blame the underlying voluntary insurance market that necessitates underwriting. When our wish for a new high-priced drug is denied, we blame insurance companies; we do not blame drug companies that set the price at over $100,000. Politicians can always elicit an applause by attacking the health insurance companies, reinforcing this bad-guy image of insurance companies.
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Not this time around, and likely not in the future.  We blame Obama, and Obamacare.

Yes they'll try to shift the blame to insurance companies.  I actually doubt that will work because of the huge buildup on Obamacare. 
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March 04, 2014, 09:51:48 PM
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Yes they'll try to shift the blame to insurance companies.  I actually doubt that will work because of the huge buildup on Obamacare. 

The ACA has a clause that prohibits the insurance companies from pointing out the root causes of problems.  They can be fined for even posting complaints on facebook, and they cant' even complain about that clause.


"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

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March 05, 2014, 02:50:00 AM
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Yes they'll try to shift the blame to insurance companies.  I actually doubt that will work because of the huge buildup on Obamacare. 

The ACA has a clause that prohibits the insurance companies from pointing out the root causes of problems.  They can be fined for even posting complaints on facebook, and they cant' even complain about that clause.


I don't really think it matters.  Obama has no glory anymore.  Everybody knows about this mess and who caused it.  Even people that love and want free stuff recognize this.

Of course the collectivists will try to shift the blame and take out/take over the insurance companies with their babble about single payer.  That's what they do, destroy productive enterprises one step at a time.
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March 05, 2014, 03:01:07 AM
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The poor and sick deserve to be punished, why should they have access to healthcare?
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March 05, 2014, 03:17:07 AM
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The poor and sick deserve to be punished, why should they have access to healthcare?
Gee, I'm truly stumped.  Are you paid by the outrageous slings, or by the hour?

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March 05, 2014, 02:42:59 PM
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President Obama’s top health officials said Tuesday they expect Congress to front the money needed to fund Obamacare’s federal marketplace in fiscal 2015 as they work to make HealthCare.gov operate better this fall.

The Health and Human Services Department said it needs a projected $1.8 billion to maintain the federally run exchange it operates on behalf of about three dozen states. The exchange is a web portal where consumers without health coverage can compare and purchase plans, often with the help of government subsidies.

About $1.2 billion of the funding will come from fees tied to Obamacare, while $600 million will be sought from Congress, officials said in HHS-specific comments about Mr. Obama’s new budget proposal.

“If Congress funds the president’s budget … this would fully fund the ongoing implementation of the Affordable Care Act,” HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said.

The agency also vowed to improve HealthCare.gov before the second round of open enrollment begins on Nov. 15, after software glitches and capacity issues ruined its Oct. 1 debut last year and nearly derailed the overhaul in its first year of implementation.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/4/hhs-we-need-18b-run-obamacare-portal/

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March 07, 2014, 07:36:45 AM
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"During this time, we have been so grateful for the great healthcare we received and for our insurance that has allowed us to get that care without ever asking if we could afford it."





Obama National Field Director Jeremy Bird and his partner, Betsey Hoover, just went through a tragic loss — the pre-mature birth of their baby boy Elijah, and his death only a few hours later. Now Bird is using the terrible experience to help push Obamacare.

In a long post on Jeremy’s Facebook page, he narrates the heartbreaking journey:

“Two weeks ago, after our 20-week ultrasound, Betsy Hoover and I decided to tell the world we were having a baby boy. The response from our community was overwhelming.

A week and a half later, our joy suddenly turned to sorrow.  On Tuesday, February 25, at 4:13 pm, after a week-long, intense battle with a ruptured appendix, Betsy gave pre-term birth to a beautiful little baby boy.

He really was beautiful. He had his dad’s nose, his mom’s mouth and even a little bit of hair. He was 11 inches long and weighed one pound, one ounce. He was precious, innocent, remarkable. [...]

“During this time, we have been so grateful for the great healthcare we received and for our insurance that has allowed us to get that care without ever asking if we could afford it.

Enroll America is doing the important work necessary to get Americans enrolled. If you are looking for a way to show your support, we ask that you donate in our names and in the name of our son, Elijah.”


http://www.truthrevolt.org//news/obama-national-field-director-uses-death-his-baby-push-obamacare
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March 09, 2014, 12:45:10 AM
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A national union that represents 300,000 low-wage hospitality workers charges in a new report that Obamacare will slam wages, cut hours, limit access to health insurance and worsen the very “income equality” President Obama says he is campaigning to fix.

“Only in Washington could asking the bottom of the middle class to finance health care for the poorest families be seen as reducing inequality,” said the report from Unite Here. “Without smart fixes, the ACA threatens the middle class with higher premiums, loss of hours, and a shift to part-time work and less comprehensive coverage,” said the report, titled, “The Irony of Obamacare: Making Inequality Worse.”

Based on government and private reports, polling and statements from administration officials, the report, to be sent to pro-union members in Congress, charges that low-wage workers are taking the hit under Obamacare, while wealthy insurance companies fatten up on government subsidies. …

“Believe me; I enter this entire debate about the consequences of the ACA with a deep reluctance,” he wrote. “Unite Here was the first union to endorse then-Senator Obama. We support the addition of health care to millions of Americans. Yet facts are facts, and Obamacare will cost our members the equivalent of a significant pay cut to keep their hard-won benefits.”


http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2545310
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