alienesb (OP)
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December 30, 2014, 07:56:33 PM |
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Well... the "official" thread was locked by coinmaster22 here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=888534.0He took his ball and ran home just like HP took our BTC and ran home. This is an unmoderated thread but try to keep it civil. What we do know about HP for certain: They stopped making payments on 12/25/14 They had a massive sale on hash with 75% off What they say happened (I'm paraphrasing): We were hacked! We'll get you more info on January 5th, 2015. If you want expedited help use a web form that you have to pay BTC with.
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Charlie11223
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December 30, 2014, 08:52:53 PM |
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Yes..CoinMaster222 has been promoting HP and prob made a lot of BTCs on referrals. He should therefor feel some kind of responsibility for this situation, and help out as much as he can. We should collect as much information in this thread before he deletes the old one.
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December 30, 2014, 09:44:17 PM |
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Download the "official" HashProfit Thread for offline browsing as follows: 1. right-click the following link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=888534.0;all2. click "save" or "save as" and choose location to save 3. open with your browser to check (FILE>OPEN)
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alienesb (OP)
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December 30, 2014, 09:56:54 PM |
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It's been opened again but who know for how long.
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7dogs
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December 30, 2014, 10:07:42 PM |
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Even better to save the OFFICIAL HASHPROFIT THREAD - display ALL (or click the above https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=888534.0;all), print/save as pdf. Better do this, especially if you have invested any serious amount.
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alienesb (OP)
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December 30, 2014, 10:22:49 PM |
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If this goes belly up I don't see any serious way to get the coin back. Sorry to say it but with these kinds of things you're kind of screwed.
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7dogs
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December 30, 2014, 11:17:26 PM |
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If these guys develop a smartPFC gateway to fiatworld they will become overnight heroes - Jan 2nd I want to buy my dogfood in pfc! that's the only way out for crypto.
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darkangel11
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Don't let others control your BTC -> self custody
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December 31, 2014, 05:37:52 AM |
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Maybe gather all available information in this thread, like ip and crypto addresses, details of people that own the domain and so on.
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letyouearn
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December 31, 2014, 08:27:33 AM |
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Again another official scam cloud mining site who scam us professionally.
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broadsword
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December 31, 2014, 09:20:50 AM |
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coinmaster22 closed the hread because i stated facts. i said there were 779k coins on for sale on c-cex but he said tha was not possible as he said dev did not dump that much premine but it was clearly showing that number and many people can vouch that they were. its no fud.
whether he is working for hp or not it does look like a scam.
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Muhammed Zakir
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December 31, 2014, 09:54:34 AM |
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coinmaster22 closed the hread because i stated facts. i said there were 779k coins on for sale on c-cex but he said tha was not possible as he said dev did not dump that much premine but it was clearly showing that number and many people can vouch that they were. its no fud.
whether he is working for hp or not it does look like a scam.
I know coinmaster22 personally and he ain't working for 'em. He just made official thread(after asking HP) because he found their Official thread was inactive. Yes, it may be a scam. Lets just believe these words like we believed in their mining and wait for their devs come. Our service has undergone the most serious attack during the existence of the project. Due to the fact that most of the specialists of the company is on New Year's weekend, it was decided to secure the safety of users of funds and infrastructure protection service from breaking suspend the site before the first Monday in 2015 (January 5). On this day, all service specialists will return to their jobs and work of the service will continue as normal. Stay calm. Thank you for understanding.
~~MZ~~
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December 31, 2014, 11:31:35 AM |
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I know coinmaster22 personally
Interesting. In most countries he could be held liable for recklessly (or knowingly) providing material support for security fraud. I what country does he live?
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Danz0r77
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December 31, 2014, 12:01:22 PM |
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I know coinmaster22 personally
Interesting. In most countries he could be held liable for recklessly (or knowingly) providing material support for security fraud. I what country does he live? IF this is him then it looks like he is from the UK https://btcjam.com/users/63314
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Muhammed Zakir
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December 31, 2014, 12:10:48 PM |
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I know coinmaster22 personally
Interesting. In most countries he could be held liable for recklessly (or knowingly) providing material support for security fraud. I what country does he live? Nothing like that. He mis-understood Hashprofit. He has contacted their support and got good replies. He took PFC a bit seriously too. About his personal things: I am really sorry! I can't give it without asking to him but he is from UK. ~~MZ~~
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Muhammed Zakir
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December 31, 2014, 12:12:25 PM |
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I know coinmaster22 personally
Interesting. In most countries he could be held liable for recklessly (or knowingly) providing material support for security fraud. I what country does he live? IF this is him then it looks like he is from the UK https://btcjam.com/users/63314Yes. That's his. No harm done from his side except the advertisements that he believed would be good. Let me try to correct him. ~~MZ~~
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jokerboy
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December 31, 2014, 12:24:19 PM |
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I think we should wait until 5th of January. Everything will be clear.
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December 31, 2014, 12:30:32 PM |
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He mis-understood Hashprofit.
It doesnt even matter if he did or not. At least in the US, its defined as "knowingly or recklessly" promoting or providing material support for security fraud. You can look it up for your own country, but its likely similar. There is no doubt what he did was at least reckless. Whether or not it was knowingly, Im pretty sure it was, but legally it doesnt even matter. It interesting to note that under said SEC regulation, coinmaster could be considered liable to the same degree as the perpetrators, who may remain anonymous and/or out of reach. Something to keep in mind next time anyone wants to promote a ponzi.
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Muhammed Zakir
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December 31, 2014, 12:35:25 PM |
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He mis-understood Hashprofit.
It doesnt even matter if he did or not. At least in the US, its defined as "knowingly or recklessly" promoting or providing material support for security fraud. You can look it up for your own country, but its likely similar. There is no doubt what he did was at least reckless. Whether or not it was knowingly, Im pretty sure it was, but legally it doesnt even matter. It interesting to note that under said SEC regulation, coinmaster could be considered liable to the same degree as the perpetrators, who may remain anonymous and/or out of reach. Something to keep in mind next time anyone wants to promote a ponzi. Just a small doubt, if we can't find that anonymous person, how can they punished? I think we should wait until 5th of January. Everything will be clear.
That's the only hope for investors! ~~MZ~~
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December 31, 2014, 01:22:03 PM |
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Just a small doubt, if we can't find that anonymous person, how can they punished? Doesnt seem like conmaster222 would be anonymous enough. BTW, googling around, it seems promoting ponzi's is illegal in Russia too: The bill also stipulates punishment for those who compel people to make a payment and join a pyramid scheme.
The Finance Ministry has also proposed amending the Administrative Offences Code to introduce administrative penalties for organizing pyramids, compelling people to make a payment or promoting these schemes.http://rapsinews.com/legislation_news/20140924/272184843.htmlDoesnt go as far as SEC regulations, but its nice to know even in Russia you could get in serious trouble for putting these ponzi banners in your signature.
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Charlie11223
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December 31, 2014, 01:25:35 PM |
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We really should be able to find the people behind Hashprofit though. Especially when we get lawyers and police involved. CoinMaster222 should be punished aswell though of course.
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