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May 09, 2015, 11:32:45 PM
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Why did my invested amount expire when there were a shit tone of big new investments after mine?
Also where did my .1 btc go?
What am I missing here?


Everything has happened as per game logic. The investments after you were used to pay the investments before you. I assume you are the 'Schemer'. If yes, I saw your investmment to expire. The bankroll was ~0.014 BTC. Your requirement was 0.14 BTC, which was not covered. So, it expired. After you, there was haha's investment, which required 0.01986264 BTC. That was not covered by this bankroll either. So, it expired too. After this was Shikaku's investment, which required 0.01104264 BTC. This was less than the then bankroll, i.e. ~0.014 BTC. Hence It was covered and he was paid.

You are going to witness this situation again if no more investment comes in next five minutes. Current bankroll is 0.00418296 BTC. Next pending is kahnur's 0.007 BTC. This will expire as it is more than the bankroll and johnfdsdf will be paid 0.00233954 BTC.

Its a very very interesting game, only if you understand it.
The "ïnvestments" before mine were payed.The investments after mine were used to pay something that already got payed?Shouldn't mettwuerst's investments have covered mine aswell?
Why don't mettwuerst's investments appear in the bankroll?


The investments before you were 'pending'. The investments after you, i.e. mettwuerst's investment paid out his old deposits leaving the more recent investments like yours awaiting to expire. Bankroll is calculated by the difference between 'Total Invested' & 'Total Returned'. When mettwuerst is investing, in one hand bank roll is increasing, but in other hand it is paying out his old investments. So it is decreasing as well and thereby self-adjusting.

I repeat, everything is happening exactly as per the game logic. But, if you fail to understand the mathematics behind the game and play accordingly, you'll lose out. This game is way different than the Ponzi scams that are taking place in this forum sub-section.
So he carefully calculated the investment to pay his own deposits but also carefully substracted my .1 that payed for one of his.What you're telling me is that I should have invested 0.14 to pay my deposit out?Then what is the point of this "game" if everyone pays his own deposit?
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May 09, 2015, 11:35:34 PM
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Hmm.. It doesn't make sense, because after mettw's bunch-a-deposits the bankroll should be 7BTC PLUS. Enough to cover pretty much anythign else.
Yet stuff expired?

Unless, did the people with the 'expired' investment's get his by bad luck with the time?
So their time expired BEFORE mettw's deposits?

Did you really mean to say that any and all investments are only covered by deposits form your own account?, meaning you
will end up in the negative after it's all done with, no matter what? You said his investments, were paying his previous invenstment payments, yet his latest deposits should be covering everyone else's?  Huh Lips sealed Undecided ( I think the smileys say it all).

On the initial description page of this it doesn't say anything that you have to cover your OWN expenses.

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May 09, 2015, 11:42:09 PM
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Hmm.. It doesn't make sense, because after mettw's bunch-a-deposits the bankroll should be 7BTC PLUS. Enough to cover pretty much anythign else.
Yet stuff expired?

Unless, did the people with the 'expired' investment's get his by bad luck with the time?
So their time expired BEFORE mettw's deposits?

Did you really mean to say that any and all investments are only covered by deposits form your own account?, meaning you
will end up in the negative after it's all done with, no matter what? You said his investments, were paying his previous invenstment payments, yet his latest deposits should be covering everyone else's?  Huh Lips sealed Undecided ( I think the smileys say it all).

On the initial description page of this it doesn't say anything that you have to cover your OWN expenses.

No. Time didn't expire.He invested 7 BTC hours before time ran out.But what they are saying is that those 7 btc covered his earlier deposits and only those deposits.
My 0.1 also covered at one of his but he took that into account and didn't return the favor.I guess that's what makes him a high roller.
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May 09, 2015, 11:55:46 PM
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Hmm.. It doesn't make sense, because after mettw's bunch-a-deposits the bankroll should be 7BTC PLUS. Enough to cover pretty much anythign else.
Yet stuff expired?

Unless, did the people with the 'expired' investment's get his by bad luck with the time?
So their time expired BEFORE mettw's deposits?

Did you really mean to say that any and all investments are only covered by deposits form your own account?, meaning you
will end up in the negative after it's all done with, no matter what? You said his investments, were paying his previous invenstment payments, yet his latest deposits should be covering everyone else's?  Huh Lips sealed Undecided ( I think the smileys say it all).

On the initial description page of this it doesn't say anything that you have to cover your OWN expenses.

No. Time didn't expire.He invested 7 BTC hours before time ran out.But what they are saying is that those 7 btc covered his earlier deposits and only those deposits.
My 0.1 also covered at one of his but he took that into account and didn't return the favor.I guess that's what makes him a high roller.

Well if that's the fact, then I now know what 'investments' to stay away from once I see that account. I've seen this type of action daytrading penny stocks, so it's no surprise .

All these 'Investments' IMO are like extremely risky stocks, so unless you're ready to get burned, don't risk it. Sometiems it's fun and worth it though.
I've gotten payouts before with no issues. I try to stay at .25BTC per hit and move on . *SHRUG*

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May 10, 2015, 08:08:19 AM
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@BitofaN1: Alfter your logic i would have gotten 0.5 BTC, because that was the bankroll before i reinvested.
if fact i had to pay more than i got.

i had 8 BTC in. 10% fees = 0.8 BTC (--> it costs me 0.8 BTC to pay out my deposit)

0.8 - 0.5 = -0.3

Aha!
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May 10, 2015, 08:10:22 AM
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Hmm.. It doesn't make sense, because after mettw's bunch-a-deposits the bankroll should be 7BTC PLUS. Enough to cover pretty much anythign else.
Yet stuff expired?

Unless, did the people with the 'expired' investment's get his by bad luck with the time?
So their time expired BEFORE mettw's deposits?

Did you really mean to say that any and all investments are only covered by deposits form your own account?, meaning you
will end up in the negative after it's all done with, no matter what? You said his investments, were paying his previous invenstment payments, yet his latest deposits should be covering everyone else's?  Huh Lips sealed Undecided ( I think the smileys say it all).

On the initial description page of this it doesn't say anything that you have to cover your OWN expenses.

No. Time didn't expire.He invested 7 BTC hours before time ran out.But what they are saying is that those 7 btc covered his earlier deposits and only those deposits.
My 0.1 also covered at one of his but he took that into account and didn't return the favor.I guess that's what makes him a high roller.

Well if that's the fact, then I now know what 'investments' to stay away from once I see that account. I've seen this type of action daytrading penny stocks, so it's no surprise .

All these 'Investments' IMO are like extremely risky stocks, so unless you're ready to get burned, don't risk it. Sometiems it's fun and worth it though.
I've gotten payouts before with no issues. I try to stay at .25BTC per hit and move on . *SHRUG*
Stay waaaaay below 0.25 BTC unless you want to get burned.At the rate new investments come in you'll have to cover for your own one + interest.So you'll need to deposit 0.35 to cover your 0.25 if there are no new investment during those 5 days and then 0.5 to cover your 0.35 deposit and so on and so on.In one month's time you'll be at 1 btc easy and you really do not want that on that dodgy POS "game".
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May 10, 2015, 08:20:18 AM
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@BitofaN1: Alfter your logic i would have gotten 0.5 BTC, because that was the bankroll before i reinvested.
if fact i had to pay more than i got.

i had 8 BTC in. 10% fees = 0.8 BTC (--> it costs me 0.8 BTC to pay out my deposit)

0.8 - 0.5 = -0.3
I'm sorry to hear that.Fact is you can never win unless people deposit at your level and it seems no one is prepared to do that.Next time you'll have to bail your btc out and lose even more in the process.It's a never ending cycle of despair.Unless you're in on it with them that is.
Glad I only lost 0.1. phew.
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May 10, 2015, 10:07:46 AM
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honestly I am not going to invest any of these site now..got my lession after lossing a lot in these site acctually I can buy a new android phone with that :@ feeling angry why these type of site are open
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May 10, 2015, 11:24:42 AM
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Would you look at that!!
Bankroll is now "misteriously" up at 8 BTC but last night after Mettweurst's deposits was close to 0.Just enough to screw me and one other guy above me with 0.25 btc.
How convenient.
Stay far away from these schemers, people.

LoLz... it is NOT up at 8 BTC. It is 7.942E-5. When a number is lower than ~0.0001 (I dont know the exact figure), this is how PHP represents it. Smiley

After paying johnnydepp at Bet# 130, bankroll has become too low. Hence, it is represented like this.
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May 10, 2015, 11:33:34 AM
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Daily withdrawal has been made for today...

https://blockchain.info/tx/dbebc161045905e156e3024c94098b96ef2a73378754258a111e94c4e2794b7c

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May 10, 2015, 01:46:57 PM
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Would you look at that!!
Bankroll is now "misteriously" up at 8 BTC but last night after Mettweurst's deposits was close to 0.Just enough to screw me and one other guy above me with 0.25 btc.
How convenient.
Stay far away from these schemers, people.

LoLz... it is NOT up at 8 BTC. It is 7.942E-5. When a number is lower than ~0.0001 (I dont know the exact figure), this is how PHP represents it. Smiley

After paying johnnydepp at Bet# 130, bankroll has become too low. Hence, it is represented like this.

Your explanation was technically correct, but it would still create confusion for non-tech people. So, I have fixed that problem.

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May 10, 2015, 04:31:41 PM
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SO for us non tech (even though I'm in the same field) people, what exactly has happened to the 7+BTC investments of mettw yesterday?

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May 10, 2015, 05:15:16 PM
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SO for us non tech (even though I'm in the same field) people, what exactly has happened to the 7+BTC investments of mettw yesterday?

7+BTC was used to raise the Total Invested amount as well as the BankRoll. But, at the same time, that BankRoll was used to payout mettwuerst's previous Bets from Bet# 111 to 119. So, BankRoll went down at the same time, increasing the Total Returned amount. That is why, both Total Invested amount & Total Returned amount has grown from 20+BTC to 28+BTC, but BanRoll has remained at the same position. This is the beauty of the game, for which operator will never run away with the BankRoll, as it is always low in comparison to what he makes from commission. So, you can be assured that unlike other Ponzi games, this game will keep running honestly.

As it appears, Shikaku is gonna expire next.
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May 10, 2015, 05:46:45 PM
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SO for us non tech (even though I'm in the same field) people, what exactly has happened to the 7+BTC investments of mettw yesterday?

7+BTC was used to raise the Total Invested amount as well as the BankRoll. But, at the same time, that BankRoll was used to payout mettwuerst's previous Bets from Bet# 111 to 119. So, BankRoll went down at the same time, increasing the Total Returned amount. That is why, both Total Invested amount & Total Returned amount has grown from 20+BTC to 28+BTC, but BanRoll has remained at the same position. This is the beauty of the game, for which operator will never run away with the BankRoll, as it is always low in comparison to what he makes from commission. So, you can be assured that unlike other Ponzi games, this game will keep running honestly.

As it appears, Shikaku is gonna expire next.
So Mettwuerst is doomed to keep paying his 7+ BTC  with ever increasing returns, until he either runs out of BTC or someone else invests the same amount to bail his deposits out?
You can't just simply get out of the game, because only the invested amount counts towards the bankroll.You either lose it all or keep playing.What an exhilarating experience!
Amirite?
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May 10, 2015, 06:32:52 PM
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So unless there are a lot more investors, this game is pretty much over and everyone lost their deposits....

Go Big or Go Home.
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May 10, 2015, 06:48:45 PM
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So unless there are a lot more investors, this game is pretty much over and everyone lost their deposits....
Or you could "invest" 0.35 to cover for your current deposit and wait 5 more days for a new big investor to come in.(witch I would not recommend)
Sorry for your btc, dreamer. Sad


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May 10, 2015, 07:27:38 PM
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So unless there are a lot more investors, this game is pretty much over and everyone lost their deposits....
Or you could "invest" 0.35 to cover for your current deposit and wait 5 more days for a new big investor to come in.(witch I would not recommend)
Sorry for your btc, dreamer. Sad





Yeah I am actually doing the math on all of this, but just threw in .25BTC to play. So no biggie. I get that back in no time from my miners.  Cheesy

All I'd have to cover is the loss which is less than a total fail. Might do that still.

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May 11, 2015, 06:08:58 AM
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@BitofaN1: Alfter your logic i would have gotten 0.5 BTC, because that was the bankroll before i reinvested.
if fact i had to pay more than i got.

i had 8 BTC in. 10% fees = 0.8 BTC (--> it costs me 0.8 BTC to pay out my deposit)

0.8 - 0.5 = -0.3

How much are you in the hole now if no big deposits come in? 3,4 BTC?

Will you re-dep as time starts running out to cover yourself?

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May 11, 2015, 10:34:44 AM
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So unless there are a lot more investors, this game is pretty much over and everyone lost their deposits....

As I can see, investors are increasing steadily and most of the existing investors are re-investing, though they are already on profit. The thing is that as more people do unerstand that this game is different from the rest and operator has no intensive in cheating investors, investments will automatically roll in. As a player, we can wear the signature as given in the OP and promote it in the gambling section to earn referral commission as well...
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May 12, 2015, 05:02:32 PM
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@BitofaN1: Alfter your logic i would have gotten 0.5 BTC, because that was the bankroll before i reinvested.
if fact i had to pay more than i got.

i had 8 BTC in. 10% fees = 0.8 BTC (--> it costs me 0.8 BTC to pay out my deposit)

0.8 - 0.5 = -0.3

How much are you in the hole now if no big deposits come in? 3,4 BTC?

Will you re-dep as time starts running out to cover yourself?

mettwuerstle already has a standing offer that he'll invest 2 BTC more...

OI  Grin

my offer still stands: if all my big deposits get paid, i will reinvest 1 BTC.

edit: i increase to 2 BTC

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