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July 13, 2012, 03:59:39 PM
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You should really keep the funds for when the intersango guys try to sue you:(

This is not your fault.

They can't sue him - he is a child.

And how do you know it's not his fault?  He had more inside knowledge than anyone and it would have been easy for him to hack in and steal the coins and destroy the database.  The police were never called for some reason...

intersango never called the police for some reason... Hmm...

This, to me, is the most damning evidence. Why would statists like the InterSango guys, who have made so much noise about being "registered" and "regulated" never call the police who are supposed to protect them from exactly this kind of fraud?

Forget the scammer tag...how about a "felon" tag?
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July 13, 2012, 04:09:37 PM
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Whilst noble, I still don't trust anyone here who claims to perform good deeds or seek pity. For all we know, that 5,000 BTC could be a small piece of the pie from the heist. Nothing ads up whenever a hack occurs, too many weird coincidences and actions performed / not performed by people who are involved in these websites. I mean we aren't taking about a couple of coupons or pennies here. These hacks amounts into the millions of dollars!

I can't understand how precautions are not taken to secure funds properly, and because they aren't secured the only thing that i keep concluding to myself is a scam. By a single or many individual.

Again im sorry to hijack your thread Zou, but it just angers me to see this happen constantly to the bitcoin economy.

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July 13, 2012, 04:10:09 PM
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..And so it seems everyone is allready fine with LOSING their money. Its only lost if you give up on legal proceedings and clearly thats the only thing that will work in this situation.

If anyone have money still hanging around in bitcoinica/intersango/toothfairy accounts, you should get some legal advice right now, no more delays.

It doesnt matter who caused this loss of funds, someone is going to be held accountable and you will only know this if you move forward with legal action.

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July 13, 2012, 04:19:55 PM
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All of my interactions with Zhou have been first rate.
He has been straight forward and easy to deal with every time and I still trust his integrity.

I wish I could say the same about the Intersango group.

(in case anyone missed it the first time around)

An impressive statement, considering your circumstances.
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July 13, 2012, 04:25:28 PM
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..And so it seems everyone is allready fine with LOSING their money. Its only lost if you give up on legal proceedings and clearly thats the only thing that will work in this situation.

If anyone have money still hanging around in bitcoinica/intersango/toothfairy accounts, you should get some legal advice right now, no more delays.

It doesnt matter who caused this loss of funds, someone is going to be held accountable and you will only know this if you move forward with legal action.

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July 13, 2012, 05:20:59 PM
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That's a nice looking website.
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July 13, 2012, 06:39:49 PM
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Wow. I honestly don't know what to say. Thank you so much for this very kind gesture, Zhou Tong!
This wasn't necessary at all, but you have no idea how much I appreciate this.
I wish you all the best, and hopefully this whole disaster won't haunt you much longer.

Thanks again! Smiley

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July 13, 2012, 06:51:12 PM
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Thank you!
I filed the claim, and if some time in the future  , the bitcoinica/intersango team will refund me (but i'm not so faithfull Grin), i'll give the money back to you.

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July 13, 2012, 07:10:20 PM
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You should really keep the funds for when the intersango guys try to sue you:(

This is not your fault.

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July 13, 2012, 07:36:22 PM
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You come from a middle class family, dont have much money left, but enough to just donate 5000btc for this? Dafuq?! 5k btc is a lot of money imho

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July 13, 2012, 07:38:25 PM
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You should really keep the funds for when the intersango guys try to sue you:(

This is not your fault.

They can't sue him - he is a child.

And how do you know it's not his fault?  He had more inside knowledge than anyone and it would have been easy for him to hack in and steal the coins and destroy the database.  The police were never called for some reason...

intersango never called the police for some reason... Hmm...

This, to me, is the most damning evidence. Why would statists like the InterSango guys, who have made so much noise about being "registered" and "regulated" never call the police who are supposed to protect them from exactly this kind of fraud?

Forget the scammer tag...how about a "felon" tag?

Scammer tag is red Xs. What would a felon tag be?

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July 13, 2012, 07:38:43 PM
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You come from a middle class family, dont have much money left, but enough to just donate 5000btc for this? Dafuq?! 5k btc is a lot of money imho

You're right.  It is a lot of money.  But it's only 1/5 of one forum members bitcoinica losses.
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July 13, 2012, 10:02:05 PM
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You should really keep the funds for when the intersango guys try to sue you:(

This is not your fault.

They can't sue him - he is a child.

And how do you know it's not his fault?  He had more inside knowledge than anyone and it would have been easy for him to hack in and steal the coins and destroy the database.  The police were never called for some reason...

intersango never called the police for some reason... Hmm...

This, to me, is the most damning evidence. Why would statists like the InterSango guys, who have made so much noise about being "registered" and "regulated" never call the police who are supposed to protect them from exactly this kind of fraud?

Forget the scammer tag...how about a "felon" tag?

Scammer tag is red Xs. What would a felon tag be?

Black Xs?
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July 13, 2012, 10:23:45 PM
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You should really keep the funds for when the intersango guys try to sue you:(

This is not your fault.

They can't sue him - he is a child.

And how do you know it's not his fault?  He had more inside knowledge than anyone and it would have been easy for him to hack in and steal the coins and destroy the database.  The police were never called for some reason...

intersango never called the police for some reason... Hmm...

This, to me, is the most damning evidence. Why would statists like the InterSango guys, who have made so much noise about being "registered" and "regulated" never call the police who are supposed to protect them from exactly this kind of fraud?

Forget the scammer tag...how about a "felon" tag?

Scammer tag is red Xs. What would a felon tag be?

Black Xs?
Na, black I's.  Think, jail cell themed.   Wink
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July 14, 2012, 03:31:41 AM
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It seems that of 40k stolen, 100btc have come as a donation, if in fact hackers are good people Grin (but a bit stingy)


https://blockchain.info/tree/11978606

https://blockchain.info/tx-index/12134191/fd307e86985acf7aaa3634ce92f7920343ce6ef7ae61f1b693056c5a8741fcdb

I know you are reading this, 40k is a lot btc, please donate.

Good karma compensates;)

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July 14, 2012, 03:46:59 AM
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It seems that of 40k stolen, 100btc have come as a donation, if in fact hackers are good people Grin (but a bit stingy)


https://blockchain.info/tree/11978606

https://blockchain.info/tx-index/12134191/fd307e86985acf7aaa3634ce92f7920343ce6ef7ae61f1b693056c5a8741fcdb

I know you are reading this, 40k is a lot btc, please donate.

Good karma compensates;)

Oh... Tainted coins.

It seems that random donations are a good way for hackers to wash their coins nowadays.

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July 14, 2012, 03:52:09 AM
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It seems that of 40k stolen, 100btc have come as a donation, if in fact hackers are good people Grin (but a bit stingy)


https://blockchain.info/tree/11978606

https://blockchain.info/tx-index/12134191/fd307e86985acf7aaa3634ce92f7920343ce6ef7ae61f1b693056c5a8741fcdb

I know you are reading this, 40k is a lot btc, please donate.

Good karma compensates;)

Oh... Tainted coins.

It seems that random donations are a good way for hackers to wash their coins nowadays.

That's not your problem no? Can bitcoinica pretend that you return those Bitcoins? At this point I trust more in your charitable refund that in them.

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July 14, 2012, 04:02:09 AM
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Will be interesting to see the blockchain forensics that come out of all this.

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July 14, 2012, 04:14:48 AM
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Will be interesting to see the blockchain forensics that come out of all this.

Disclosure: The donation address is hosted on Blockchain.info.

EDIT: Block chain or Blockchain.info? LOL.

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July 14, 2012, 04:22:40 AM
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Will be interesting to see the blockchain forensics that come out of all this.

Disclosure: The donation address is hosted on Blockchain.info.

EDIT: Block chain or Blockchain.info? LOL.

How do you know?

If the transaction is relayed by 127.0.0.1 means that the origin is blockhain.info? if so it seems that all directions of the branch that goes to the donation are blockchain.info

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