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July 15, 2012, 01:51:48 AM
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Can you explain why you sold 35k USD LR for RMB at a really low price(6.2, usually 6.6-6.7) last night?  
Also sold a bunch of Bitcoins ?
Why so hurry ?

I have explained this in the same QQ group that I used to sell LR.

Basically I started selling many days ago, and only stopped selling when the news comes out. I was just helping a previous business partner I've met in Singapore to cash out urgently (he has something like 100K LRUSD).

I've also done a very large sell transaction at AurumXchange, using my own LR and bank account.

I don't use Liberty Reserve and I'm not aware of the market rates. Selling LRUSD/CNY at 6.2 is a better deal compared to LR exchanges that charge 2-5% plus wire fees.

Anyway, it's totally unrelated to the Bitcoinica hack and the amount of actual transactions far exceeds the reported loss.

I wish I was the hacker, so that I could refund the customers more quickly. But unfortunately I'm not. (Made it bold so that you can quote easily.)

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July 15, 2012, 02:13:44 AM
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Can you explain why you sold 35k USD LR for RMB at a really low price(6.2, usually 6.6-6.7) last night?  
Also sold a bunch of Bitcoins ?
Why so hurry ?

I have explained this in the same QQ group that I used to sell LR.

Basically I started selling many days ago, and only stopped selling when the news comes out. I was just helping a previous business partner I've met in Singapore to cash out urgently (he has something like 100K LRUSD).

I've also done a very large sell transaction at AurumXchange, using my own LR and bank account.

I don't use Liberty Reserve and I'm not aware of the market rates. Selling LRUSD/CNY at 6.2 is a better deal compared to LR exchanges that charge 2-5% plus wire fees.

Anyway, it's totally unrelated to the Bitcoinica hack and the amount of actual transactions far exceeds the reported loss.

I wish I was the hacker, so that I could refund the customers more quickly. But unfortunately I'm not. (Made it bold so that you can quote easily.)

I gave you fair warning Zhou Tong, I am going to enjoy very much what will happen to you very soon. You can officially consider me as your
enemy and I will make sure justice is served. I would hire personal security if I was you.

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July 15, 2012, 02:18:30 AM
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I gave you fair warning Zhou Tong, I am going to enjoy very much what will happen to you very soon. You can officially consider me as your
enemy and I will make sure justice is served. I would hire personal security if I was you.

Maria. <3

Why threaten or blame ZT?  He is the only one who has not acted like a d-bag in this whole debacle.

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July 15, 2012, 02:25:48 AM
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I gave you fair warning Zhou Tong, I am going to enjoy very much what will happen to you very soon. You can officially consider me as your
enemy and I will make sure justice is served. I would hire personal security if I was you.

Maria. <3

Why threaten or blame ZT?  He is the only one who has not acted like a d-bag in this whole debacle.

It's Maria.  She likes people to believe that she's rich as fuck and powerful (she once claimed that she helped Satoshi launch Bitcoin).  She's perfectly happy to "help" her people in Venezuela by gouging them on the price of pre-paid cards, though.  She knows she can't intimidate the other Bitcoinica players and thinks that she can bullshit and intimidate Zhou due to his youth.

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July 15, 2012, 02:51:37 AM
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I gave you fair warning Zhou Tong, I am going to enjoy very much what will happen to you very soon. You can officially consider me as your
enemy and I will make sure justice is served. I would hire personal security if I was you.

Maria. <3

I will tell your husband about this.

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July 15, 2012, 03:10:39 AM
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I gave you fair warning Zhou Tong, I am going to enjoy very much what will happen to you very soon. You can officially consider me as your
enemy and I will make sure justice is served. I would hire personal security if I was you.

Maria. <3

I will tell your husband about this.

LOL.  Take a chill pill, Maria.  You are not the only person lost bitcoins.
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July 15, 2012, 03:24:50 AM
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LOL.  Take a chill pill, Maria.  You are not the only person lost bitcoins.

If, indeed, she lost any.  She refused to file a claim, remember, and tried to get people to pressure Zhou into giving her 16,000+ BTC by promising to donate to the forum and individuals when she received "her" funds (and blamed Zhou for her being unable to honour those donations).  She's a lot more transparent than she believes.

All I can say is that this is Bitcoin. I don't believe it until I see six confirmations.
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July 15, 2012, 04:07:00 AM
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I gave you fair warning Zhou Tong, I am going to enjoy very much what will happen to you very soon. You can officially consider me as your
enemy and I will make sure justice is served. I would hire personal security if I was you.

Maria. <3

Why threaten or blame ZT?  He is the only one who has not acted like a d-bag in this whole debacle.

It's Maria.  She likes people to believe that she's rich as fuck and powerful (she once claimed that she helped Satoshi launch Bitcoin).  She's perfectly happy to "help" her people in Venezuela by gouging them on the price of pre-paid cards, though.  She knows she can't intimidate the other Bitcoinica players and thinks that she can bullshit and intimidate Zhou due to his youth.

Well then won't she have all those pre-mined blocks?  Grin

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July 15, 2012, 05:23:19 AM
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Suuuure, 8 or 9 anonymous accounts all set up via Tor, and no claim(s) filed. Go sit on a cactus, Maria.

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July 15, 2012, 06:54:09 AM
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July 15, 2012, 06:59:53 AM
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Can you explain why you sold 35k USD LR for RMB at a really low price(6.2, usually 6.6-6.7) last night?  
Also sold a bunch of Bitcoins ?
Why so hurry ?

I have explained this in the same QQ group that I used to sell LR.

Basically I started selling many days ago, and only stopped selling when the news comes out. I was just helping a previous business partner I've met in Singapore to cash out urgently (he has something like 100K LRUSD).

I've also done a very large sell transaction at AurumXchange, using my own LR and bank account.

I don't use Liberty Reserve and I'm not aware of the market rates. Selling LRUSD/CNY at 6.2 is a better deal compared to LR exchanges that charge 2-5% plus wire fees.

Anyway, it's totally unrelated to the Bitcoinica hack and the amount of actual transactions far exceeds the reported loss.

I wish I was the hacker, so that I could refund the customers more quickly. But unfortunately I'm not. (Made it bold so that you can quote easily.)

I gave you fair warning Zhou Tong, I am going to enjoy very much what will happen to you very soon. You can officially consider me as your
enemy and I will make sure justice is served. I would hire personal security if I was you.

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July 15, 2012, 07:09:44 AM
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Can you explain why you sold 35k USD LR for RMB at a really low price(6.2, usually 6.6-6.7) last night?  
Also sold a bunch of Bitcoins ?
Why so hurry ?

I have explained this in the same QQ group that I used to sell LR.

Basically I started selling many days ago, and only stopped selling when the news comes out. I was just helping a previous business partner I've met in Singapore to cash out urgently (he has something like 100K LRUSD).

I've also done a very large sell transaction at AurumXchange, using my own LR and bank account.

I don't use Liberty Reserve and I'm not aware of the market rates. Selling LRUSD/CNY at 6.2 is a better deal compared to LR exchanges that charge 2-5% plus wire fees.

Anyway, it's totally unrelated to the Bitcoinica hack and the amount of actual transactions far exceeds the reported loss.

I wish I was the hacker, so that I could refund the customers more quickly. But unfortunately I'm not. (Made it bold so that you can quote easily.)

You do realise that you seem to be in the middle of alot of coincidences. Either you are cursed and beyond statistical badluck or you are simply continously spewing crap at everyone and hoping that people will still believe you.

Seriously rather dont post any further, every new post in response to issues ie. the sudden sell off of LR that a member noted, you would come back with a response to magically yet again fit the exact reason and timeframe this selloff appear to correlate to.

Ive tried to agree with you on and off but its come to a point where I can only call bullshit on every post you make, you are in my books just as responsible as the other parties in this whole criminal fiasco.

PS. Yes of course if you were the hacker you would send everyone their money, are you really that daft to try and claim that the actual hacker(if there is one and if it were you) would now suddenly grow a heart and send the funds to those who got robbed?

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Eligible payout list
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I estimated more claims, if you close now and pay now, for many it is something.

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Can you explain why you sold 35k USD LR for RMB at a really low price(6.2, usually 6.6-6.7) last night?  
Also sold a bunch of Bitcoins ?
Why so hurry ?

I have explained this in the same QQ group that I used to sell LR.

Basically I started selling many days ago, and only stopped selling when the news comes out. I was just helping a previous business partner I've met in Singapore to cash out urgently (he has something like 100K LRUSD).

I've also done a very large sell transaction at AurumXchange, using my own LR and bank account.

I don't use Liberty Reserve and I'm not aware of the market rates. Selling LRUSD/CNY at 6.2 is a better deal compared to LR exchanges that charge 2-5% plus wire fees.

Anyway, it's totally unrelated to the Bitcoinica hack and the amount of actual transactions far exceeds the reported loss.

I wish I was the hacker, so that I could refund the customers more quickly. But unfortunately I'm not. (Made it bold so that you can quote easily.)

You do realise that you seem to be in the middle of alot of coincidences. Either you are cursed and beyond statisticly badluck or you are simply continously spewing crap at everyone and hoping that people will still believe you.

Seriously rather dont post any further, every new post in response to issues ie. the sudden sell off of LR that a member noted, you would come back with a response to magically yet again fit the exact reason and timeframe this selloff appear to correlate to.

Ive tried to agree with you on and off but its come to a point where I can only call bullshit on every post you make, you are in my books just as responsible as the other parties in this whole criminal fiasco.

PS. Yes of course if you were the hacker you would send everyone their money, are you really that daft to try and claim that the actual hacker(if there is one and if it were you) would now suddenly grow a heart and send the funds to those who got robbed?

All coincidences are intentionally discovered. Things happen all the time. I personally make $500,000+ credit/debit transactions every month and yes, 2.5 days worth of transactions magically matches the amount of USD stolen. "Woo! Zhou Tong must be the thief!"

This kind of things also apply to life. Bitcoinica is the first significantly profitable ("significant" for a student = more than $1000) project in my life. And I have noted an obvious increase in conversations with classmates since I told people that I could finally make some money. Yes, people don't care when nothing happens to them. When something happens, they care about everything.

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On behalf of the entire community, many thanks for this kind gesture.
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July 15, 2012, 07:24:48 AM
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UPDATE 2: Everyone has been paid!

It took me about 8 minutes of hard work to finally pay everyone something. TXIDs:

50ec12d08970ade781bda0b65c4b17cf59745828898094567c0f7bec5fce988f
045dbab77795fc1f1ba700e92c18987aaabd5793b512ecfc442d1d0154666a4c
1bb7983de928455d804f82be4156beb5f56022f7efaa51bf1b69db1bb77ca31b

Everyone who submitted a claim and verified through email has been deemed as accurate. I have also checked the top list and I can recognize all usernames. If you have intentionally/unintentionally submitted a wrong claim, please pay me back so that I can build good stuff for the world. (Sponsor Zhou Tong @ 1G4iqMitXTmNYvY5tDaaYANWxhwJW84sr2)

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July 15, 2012, 07:30:30 AM
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UPDATE 2: Everyone has been paid!

It took me about 8 minutes of hard work to finally pay everyone something. TXIDs:

50ec12d08970ade781bda0b65c4b17cf59745828898094567c0f7bec5fce988f
045dbab77795fc1f1ba700e92c18987aaabd5793b512ecfc442d1d0154666a4c
1bb7983de928455d804f82be4156beb5f56022f7efaa51bf1b69db1bb77ca31b

Everyone who submitted a claim and verified through email has been deemed as accurate. I have also checked the top list and I can recognize all usernames. If you have intentionally/unintentionally submitted a wrong claim, please pay me back so that I can build good stuff for the world. (Sponsor Zhou Tong @ 1G4iqMitXTmNYvY5tDaaYANWxhwJW84sr2)

At least people are getting something back. They should have gotten you to do the recent payback of bitcoinica.

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July 15, 2012, 07:31:03 AM
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Thank you very much zhou, you gave us a push to continue to endure this situation.

Thank you indeed.

Sorry for my bad english Wink
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July 15, 2012, 07:46:20 AM
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I already updated my bitcoinica claim to deduct your donation Wink

Sorry for my bad english Wink
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July 15, 2012, 07:53:06 AM
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I already updated my bitcoinica claim to deduct your donation Wink

You don't have to do that. This program shouldn't affect your claim at Bitcoinica.

I believe that Bitcoinica wants objective data, not overstated and not understated either.

When Bitcoinica pays in full, just return the coins to me. Any residual on Bitcoinica's account doesn't belong to me anyway.

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