[lee group]1980$! the sales of first batch hosted antminer s7(psu included)

[QuintLeo]

If the S5+ is real (it's still being debated in the actual S5 thread), it's well within published specs for the BM1384 chip itself.

 If it IS real, my main worry about the thing would be heat dissipation - they packed the small heatsinks in so tight there's very little room for airflow, the "outlet" end is going to run a LOT hotter than the "inlet" end (kind of like the SP20 but a LOT worse).

 I also find the form factor odd, and it's going to have issues clearing customs at the posted pricing.

 RoI on the thing is .... NOT likely, too expensive and NOT enough more efficient than a S5 to be viable much past late July of next year when the next Bitcoin block reward halving is currently estimated to happen.


 Would have made a LOT more sense to run 2x20 strings per board instead of 3x16 IMO, MUCH more efficient and a lot more likely to hit ROI despite the lower hash rate due to the MUCH greater efficiency.


 Personally, I'm waiting for the S7 and machines based on the Innosilicon A3 before I even consider buying any more miner hardware.

[philipma1957]

The s-7 is far far away. Which is why the s-5+ is being offered.

[pcfli]

Guys i feel like i am missing something.

Why should we be interested into the SFARDS product?

I personally whould like to spend some cash and host some new ROIable products like s5 were/are…

how about these
link is here

http://shop.bitmain.cn/goods.php?id=47

I used chrome/google translate

7700gh 3400 watts!



well I wonder if lee will get a beastly s-5+  at the right price I would like it.


 It needs to be lower then 19000CNY >>>>>> 3060usd

lee do you think you may get this item?

i think it is not worth to buy, 19000 cny is too expensive, especailly consider that s7 will be available on Sep, i heard the efficiency of s7 can be as low as 0.2W/G
the design of s5+ is also a problem, too many hash board in one miner, and make it is very hard to find proper PSU to provide electricity, another problem is if one miner is broken, you will lose 7.7T hash rate.  The efficiency is almost the same as s5, so i prefer to buy used s5 not this new s5+.

[pcfli]

The s-7 is far far away. Which is why the s-5+ is being offered.

I heard s7 will be available on Sep if everything going well

[QuintLeo]

The s-7 is far far away. Which is why the s-5+ is being offered.

 This S5+ isn't even CLOSE to the S5 or S7, completely different marketing target.

 If it was a SINGLE unit, then it might actually be a viable stopgap - but as is, ASSUMING IT IS REAL, it's more of a S4+/S6 stopgap and not even close to being a S7 placeholder.



 Also, the S7 is NOT "far far away" - it is almost 100% certainty IN PRODUCTION, just not being sold 'till Bitmain sells off the S5s in their farm/Hashnest.



 Bitmain did officially confirm this S5+ as a real product in one of the speculation threads, currently only offered on their chinese website (and was apparently meant origanally as a china-only product) but they also said it would be available on their main site Friday.

[philipma1957]

The s-7 is far far away. Which is why the s-5+ is being offered.

 This S5+ isn't even CLOSE to the S5 or S7, completely different marketing target.

 If it was a SINGLE unit, then it might actually be a viable stopgap - but as is, ASSUMING IT IS REAL, it's more of a S4+/S6 stopgap and not even close to being a S7 placeholder.



 Also, the S7 is NOT "far far away" - it is almost 100% certainty IN PRODUCTION, just not being sold 'till Bitmain sells off the S5s in their farm/Hashnest.



 Bitmain did officially confirm this S5+ as a real product in one of the speculation threads, currently only offered on their chinese website (and was apparently meant origanally as a china-only product) but they also said it would be available on their main site Friday.

I hope you are correct. I would prefer to be wrong and have the s-7 come out in early sept.  rather then wait for it until early oct.

A .25 watt miner would be nicer then the s-5+ which is a .445 watt miner.

[Rabinovitch]

5 units sfards miner already arrive in our farm

Our Russian haggler adv aka felix73 swear that he and his friendee "mild" have received SF-100 first-ever, while you are just a scammer. 

[alienesb]

5 units sfards miner already arrive in our farm

Our Russian haggler adv aka felix73 swear that he and his friendee "mild" have received SF-100 first-ever, while you are just a scammer. 

Dude, wtf did I just read? Li is not a scammer.

[sjc1490]

Definitely not a scammer. I have been doing business with him for months and have no complaints.

[clgrissom3]

5 units sfards miner already arrive in our farm

Our Russian haggler adv aka felix73 swear that he and his friendee "mild" have received SF-100 first-ever, while you are just a scammer.  

Dude, wtf did I just read? Li is not a scammer.

Definitely not a scammer!  Peicai Li (pcfli) is one of the most trustworthy businessmen around.  I bought 15 Antminer S5's from him months ago and he hosts these for me out of his Data Center.

[pcfli]

5 units sfards miner already arrive in our farm

Our Russian haggler adv aka felix73 swear that he and his friendee "mild" have received SF-100 first-ever, while you are just a scammer. 

what is the meaning of " i am a scammer", i didnot see how you get this conclusion. I just said i already got 5 unit SF-100 and the quality is not as good as advertised.. i donot want to sell them on this situation...so i canot see how can i scam people without selling any thing to them.

[philipma1957]

okay we have an american (myself) a Chinese nation (li) and a Russian (Rabinovitch)

I think The Russian (Rabinovitch) was making a Joke about the Chinese Man (li)

So along comes the naive American (me) trying to make peace.


I know if Li said 5 came to his hosting he got 5. If he says his 5 don't work well I know him well enough to believe in him.


As for the Russian (Rabinovitch) I have read many posts and he has a sense of humor he can be funny.

As for me I just want to mine a bit.

And Russians Chinese and Americans   can all get along.

As can other countries.

Peace to all.

[pcfli]

haha , that is right. i will buy some s5+ as well , to test its performance and quality, also i heard a rumor that Avalon will release new miner on Dec, at the power efficiency of 0.25W/G, Lketc said they will release 14nm based miner on the early Dec and the power efficiency can be as low as 0.2W/G, added S7, seems like a competitive time will come soon.

[bgibso01]

Back to mining.  Li any idea why my s5 units are on the failover pool for the past 12 hrs?  They've been good the last week or so. Primary pool Kano.

Thanks.

[ErikvanBreen]

Lee can you check if you are able to get a few of the S5+ miners that are just released on the Bitmain site? https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=0002015081407532655504JMKzsM067B

It looks like the USD price is a bit lower then the cny price posted above, I am interested in purchasing a few if you can buy and host them at a decent price

[QuintLeo]

I believe Lketc is claiming 0.26 for it's upcomming miner, not 0.20 - which is still good. 0.20 might be the chip spec, or if you can undervolt the chip.

[philipma1957]

Lee can you check if you are able to get a few of the S5+ miners that are just released on the Bitmain site? https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=0002015081407532655504JMKzsM067B

It looks like the USD price is a bit lower then the cny price posted above, I am interested in purchasing a few if you can buy and host them at a decent price

yes the price is 2375

I would be interested in this as well

[QuintLeo]

consider that s7 will be available on Sep, i heard the efficiency of s7 can be as low as 0.2W/G

 I would like for this to be true, as long as the S7 isn't way expen$$$$ive - but where does this information come from?

[Flep182]

I believe Lketc is claiming 0.26 for it's upcomming miner, not 0.20 - which is still good. 0.20 might be the chip spec, or if you can undervolt the chip.

Their website shows 5 Th/s with 1000 Watts:

http://www.lketc.com/enindex.aspx

Where do they claim 0,26?

[QuintLeo]

One of the posts with pictures around had 0.26 mentioned, though it's hard to tell for sure since I don't read Chinese.