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This is a simple outline / guide on how we are running our Antminer S5 Units in clusters of 6 with no overheating issues and a decent overclock. Our setup consists of (6) S5 Units per Cluster - all within the small space of a 30" small wire shelving unit.
Our Miners are set at frequency 393.75.
We are achieving 1300+ GHash per Miner; no "X"s; and with only a single Delta AFB1212SHE Replacement Fan.
We are not using any sort of water cooling or push pull; just a single fan. Temps are constant at 52-56 C in a 69-72 F Room. We've been grouping 6 units together on a 24x30x14 Small Wire Shelving Unit which can be purchased at HomeDepot / Target for roughly $20.00. The config illustrated here uses (3) EVGA 1300 G2 PSUs, with (2) S5 Units on each PSU. This particular setup will limit your overclocking ability due to the PSUs power limit. With this setup I would not recommend going over 362.50. However, this same setup can be used with a total of (4) 1000w PSUs running 393.75 - simply by running (3) S5 Units on (2) PSUs each X 2. Simply Mount all 4 PSUs on the outside of the shelving unit - rather than the 3rd 1300w in the middle. Please note that the Pink Circles and Lines note Zip Tie Points.
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We'll be publishing our additional guide on maximizing your mining hashpower; and improving your mining power by up to 15% by simply running an additional script and light weight software package. That guide will be posted later this month!
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February 04, 2015, 05:01:28 PM |
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improving your mining power by up to 15% by simply running an additional script and light weight software package
That's a pretty bold claim right there. So a stock S5 will get 1328Gh by a script?
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February 04, 2015, 05:11:26 PM |
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improving your mining power by up to 15% by simply running an additional script and light weight software package
That's a pretty bold claim right there. So a stock S5 will get 1328Gh by a script? Overclocked yes. Im running poolside averages of 1280-1320ish on the units. Only hardware mod is the replaced Fan. Single. Strato
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February 04, 2015, 05:14:11 PM |
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improving your mining power by up to 15% by simply running an additional script and light weight software package
That's a pretty bold claim right there. So a stock S5 will get 1328Gh by a script? The Radiators are designed improperly if you ask me. In fact their curved blades in my opinion trap heat rather than expel it. Running the unit vertical would do nothing but improve the thermodynamic cooling ability of the radiator allowing heat to escape the way it wants to. Up. Cheers, Strato
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February 04, 2015, 05:23:01 PM |
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improving your mining power by up to 15% by simply running an additional script and light weight software package
That's a pretty bold claim right there. So a stock S5 will get 1328Gh by a script? The Radiators are designed improperly if you ask me. In fact their curved blades in my opinion trap heat rather than expel it. Running the unit vertical would do nothing but improve the thermodynamic cooling ability of the radiator allowing heat to escape the way it wants to. Up. They're designed EXACTLY to trap the flow and prevent it from escaping. You want that air to continue down the entire length of the blades before being allowed to exit, else you end up with an even larger temperature gradient down the blades. The curved design also adds significant surface area [heat transfer] for the same amount of material and volume. As a last point, passive convection effects are almost negligible in regards to heat removal when you have active convection operating.
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February 04, 2015, 05:31:03 PM |
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improving your mining power by up to 15% by simply running an additional script and light weight software package
That's a pretty bold claim right there. So a stock S5 will get 1328Gh by a script? The Radiators are designed improperly if you ask me. In fact their curved blades in my opinion trap heat rather than expel it. Running the unit vertical would do nothing but improve the thermodynamic cooling ability of the radiator allowing heat to escape the way it wants to. Up. They're designed EXACTLY to trap the flow and prevent it from escaping. You want that air to continue down the entire length of the blades before being allowed to exit, else you end up with an even larger temperature gradient down the blades. The curved design also adds significant surface area [heat transfer] for the same amount of material and volume. As a last point, passive convection effects are almost negligible in regards to heat removal when you have active convection operating. The surface area of the radiator blade does not change by running it upright. Second, the fans push an incredible amount of air over the blades. I find it hard to believe that running it horizontal would increase airflow efficiency and reduce trapped heat. Heat wants to rise. Ive run it both horizontal and vertical. I get lower temps, less x's, and am able on a few units to go up 1 additional clock speed. Im just speaking from my experience here. I certainly mean no disrespect. Strato
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February 04, 2015, 05:45:56 PM |
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Strato - nice concepts applied here .... still out on the extra cost of that huge fan though ... They're designed EXACTLY to trap the flow and prevent it from escaping.
Thats nonsense. With the fan that ships with the S5, there's no chane of trapping anything between the blades. In any case, why trap the heat in the first place? You want that air to continue down the entire length of the blades before being allowed to exit, else you end up with an even larger temperature gradient down the blades.
Thats waffle. The curved design also adds significant surface area [heat transfer] for the same amount of material and volume.
Absolute nonsense! You mean the same material occupies less area when curved. Curving does NOT increase surface area (let alone significantly). As a last point, passive convection effects are almost negligible in regards to heat removal when you have active convection operating.
So what's this all about then? " They're designed EXACTLY to trap the flow and prevent it from escaping."
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February 04, 2015, 06:33:21 PM |
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Strato - nice concepts applied here .... still out on the extra cost of that huge fan though ... They're designed EXACTLY to trap the flow and prevent it from escaping.
Thats nonsense. With the fan that ships with the S5, there's no chane of trapping anything between the blades. In any case, why trap the heat in the first place? You want that air to continue down the entire length of the blades before being allowed to exit, else you end up with an even larger temperature gradient down the blades.
Thats waffle. The curved design also adds significant surface area [heat transfer] for the same amount of material and volume.
Absolute nonsense! You mean the same material occupies less area when curved. Curving does NOT increase surface area (let alone significantly). As a last point, passive convection effects are almost negligible in regards to heat removal when you have active convection operating.
So what's this all about then? " They're designed EXACTLY to trap the flow and prevent it from escaping." Stand the Miner Vertical. Set it up like I drafted it out in my Op Post. See the heat difference. See the OC capability difference. I have 24 of these. Im not making this up. Yes the S5 is easilly a 1300 Ghash miner. All it takes is a 90 Degree Rotation of the unit. Strato
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February 04, 2015, 06:52:20 PM |
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Stand the Miner Vertical. Set it up like I drafted it out in my Op Post. See the heat difference. See the OC capability difference.
I have 24 of these. Im not making this up.
Yes the S5 is easilly a 1300 Ghash miner. All it takes is a 90 Degree Rotation of the unit.
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Was not disputing any of your claims, just dogie's waffle responses. I know the S5 is easily a 1300Gh/s + miner (mine is at 1350 albeit at a higher freq), but now you got me thinking of the S3 variants too .... aka the vertical position.
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Never doubt the effectiveness of box fans. They are beast. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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February 05, 2015, 12:18:02 AM |
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Never doubt the effectiveness of box fans. They are beast. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Yep they move air for sure. We bought like 30 of them for our GPU rigs which have since been turned off. And for $20 bucks you cant beat them. The cost of a single decent PC Case Fan, yet big enough to keep air moving across 2 GPU rigs (8 GPUs) or in this case- 6 AntMiner S5 Units. Strato
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February 05, 2015, 01:40:49 AM |
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Is that your bed next to an SP20 & a S5? Do you sleep with industrial ear muffs strapped to your head? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Is that your bed next to an SP20 & a S5? Do you sleep with industrial ear muffs strapped to your head? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) That is dedication. Definitely could keep a eye on it that way though. I personally keep them out of bedrooms ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Is that your bed next to an SP20 & a S5? Do you sleep with industrial ear muffs strapped to your head? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) That is dedication. Definitely could keep a eye on it that way though. I personally keep them out of bedrooms ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) You stop being able to hear it after a while, its surprising what level of noise can become the baseline. Its also a lot easier because miner noise is perfectly level. improving your mining power by up to 15% by simply running an additional script and light weight software package
That's a pretty bold claim right there. So a stock S5 will get 1328Gh by a script? Overclocked yes. Im running poolside averages of 1280-1320ish on the units. Whenever you post your next resource, please make it exceptionally clear that overclocking will void a user's warranty.
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Is that your bed next to an SP20 & a S5? Do you sleep with industrial ear muffs strapped to your head? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) MY wife would kill me. It is a spare bedroom in the basement. I hope to run the avalon 4 tests in that room and keep the avalon 4 running there. It is supposed to be very quiet. I will shift that lone s-5 and the 9th sp20 out to the garage or maybe into my attic. I have the power to run these I'm short space mostly due to the heat and noise they make.
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Is that your bed next to an SP20 & a S5? Do you sleep with industrial ear muffs strapped to your head? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) That is dedication. Definitely could keep a eye on it that way though. I personally keep them out of bedrooms ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) You stop being able to hear it after a while, its surprising what level of noise can become the baseline. Its also a lot easier because miner noise is perfectly level. improving your mining power by up to 15% by simply running an additional script and light weight software package
That's a pretty bold claim right there. So a stock S5 will get 1328Gh by a script? Overclocked yes. Im running poolside averages of 1280-1320ish on the units. Whenever you post your next resource, please make it exceptionally clear that overclocking will void a user's warranty. Overclocking voids the warranty? Then why is it a drop down option in the control panel of your software which ships with the units. Secondly; why is it not listed on that submenu (Advanced) as WARNING saying that clocking above 350 will void ones warranty. Third, if I did a hard reset - how would you know. Forth, if you were able to somehow read the data off the miner and know that it was overclocked; what if I were to just put the miner on the grill for 20 or 30 minutes and burn it up and claim malfunction. I'm not trying to start a fight here. But I find that it's ridiculous to put an option to set a frequency higher than 350 with a simple dropdown menu - in your own software - and there be no warning whatsoever - and that BM would deny a warranty claim. Thats like Sony saying sorry your warranty is void on your new Sound System - you turned up the volume past 50. Or a car company saying sorry; your warranty is void you drove it above 75 miles per hour. If the unit can't take it - the don't offer it. And if you do offer it - make it clear within the software (simple to do) that clocking higher than X is "At your own risk" and will void the warranty. Strato
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February 05, 2015, 02:10:15 AM |
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Whenever you post your next resource, please make it exceptionally clear that overclocking will void a user's warranty.
I am not sure that is necessary as most mining rig owners know that OC'ing voids the warranty. In any case, it is bitmain's responsibility to advise its customers about the terms of the warranty, and to my knowledge, I have never seen any official bitmain literature to that effect, bearing in mind that the so called overclocking frequencies ship as selectable options (on the S5 at least)!
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February 05, 2015, 02:12:38 AM |
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& Fifth - stop spamming everyone's threads poop-dogie. Again. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Is that your bed next to an SP20 & a S5? Do you sleep with industrial ear muffs strapped to your head? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) MY wife would kill me. It is a spare bedroom in the basement. I hope to run the avalon 4 tests in that room and keep the avalon 4 running there. It is supposed to be very quiet. I will shift that lone s-5 and the 9th sp20 out to the garage or maybe into my attic. I have the power to run these I'm short space mostly due to the heat and noise they make. Philip your posts always amaze me - you are a madman! Thanks also for your post on getting 7v off the 1300 using a molex. May give that a shot. But for now - getting nice speeds with a single fan - Miner VERTICAL. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I also give credit to Philip for pointing me towards the Delta Fans - they ended up working out great. Cheers! Strato
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