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[ShrykeZ]

wtf that was fast!!! thank you

so its still paying?

It hasn't stopped paying and always fast response from OP.

[cheako911]

@OP: An "unpaid BTC Counter" would be nice (the amout u would have to deposit so that all pending deposits are paid)

So when things slow down that u know when u can start investing again.

You've only a little bit longer and then you will fall even more behind.  Seriously things are never going to slow down!  You either invest now or you will fall further behind.

[cheako911]

Investing now means giving some BTC to someone else, but it'll put you in the game.  PPL will continue to pay out their own investments, it's basically free to do so.  Once your investment comes to the front you can only hope that ppl will invest at that time.  If no then you'll have to come up with the BTC to invest your self.  The alternative is sad for everyone, there is nothing to gain by having deposits expire for anyone.

That's all.

[cheako911]

I've a question though, how far down to the wire can things go?  Can I re-post just seconds b4 the expire or am I needing to have the TX confirmed just seconds b4?

What about cases where two blocks were mined just seconds apart, is there a way for the second TX to get paid out with a re-post?

[N9_Ninja]

I've a question though, how far down to the wire can things go?  Can I re-post just seconds b4 the expire or am I needing to have the TX confirmed just seconds b4?

What about cases where two blocks were mined just seconds apart, is there a way for the second TX to get paid out with a re-post?

The transaction must be confirmed to count, the transaction is only safe when it hits Pending (has enough funds) and then will be paid.

Edit: Only transactions that are confirmed are able to be used to pay out those in the list.

Therefore the best advice I can give is make sure to include a good fee and not leave it too late to input if you want to save a transaction.
I do understand some people will want to wait until other transactions expire first, although this could turn to disaster if a block is not found within the following period.

[cheako911]

I've a question though, how far down to the wire can things go?  Can I re-post just seconds b4 the expire or am I needing to have the TX confirmed just seconds b4?

What about cases where two blocks were mined just seconds apart, is there a way for the second TX to get paid out with a re-post?

The transaction must be confirmed to count, the transaction is only safe when it hits Pending (has enough funds) and then will be paid.

Edit: Only transactions that are confirmed are able to be used to pay out those in the list.

Therefore the best advice I can give is make sure to include a good fee and not leave it too late to input if you want to save a transaction.
I do understand some people will want to wait until other transactions expire first, although this could turn to disaster if a block is not found within the following period.

I fear for 233c1c5316e662dc95317d1dee233bff363c46a59ce18d0e47537302a2ff3eac, I can only imagine the anxiousness that person must be feeling...  and now pain!

Listen, this needs fixing.  Something like, delay the expire until the next block.  Though that may need to also push back other expires...  It shouldn't be too bad.


Since that 0.15 is going to 1Excalibur, there is a chance it could be returned.  Seems like the right thing to do, think about it dude!

[N9_Ninja]

I fear for 233c1c5316e662dc95317d1dee233bff363c46a59ce18d0e47537302a2ff3eac, I can only imagine the anxiousness that person must be feeling...  and now pain!

Listen, this needs fixing.  Something like, delay the expire until the next block.  Though that may need to also push back other expires...  It shouldn't be too bad.


Since that 0.15 is going to 1Excalibur, there is a chance it could be returned.  Seems like the right thing to do, think about it dude!

Well they took the risk of sending that amount with a very low fee, skimping out on fees has always been a bad idea.

The game is working as intended, it isn't broken so does not need a fix, the whole block for confirmation scenario adds a dynamic effect to the game.

During development I played around with blocks instead of timers, but then there is the case that some guy waits for 1 block to expire to knock
out X transaction because his is on block 2, but as soon as the block comes in and he wants to send in, another block is found within seconds
knocking him out as well, this is extremely unfair as there is no way he can track that, like he can with an individual timer, this game works.

Good luck and thanks for playing!

[cheako911]

There is a separate issue here.  A confirmed block is counted as one round and from what I've seen the oldest transaction is every block is paid out first.  So if there is a low/zero fee tx it essentially trumps any other deposits.  That doesn't seem right.

<old>It's worth considering reversing the order, making it so that the newest tx in a block is paid out first.  Though there is a lot to think about with this kind of change, much needs to be considered that I'm not.</old>

There is a way, bitcoin internally uses a formula for calculating a transactions wight.  Sorting by this dosen't sound bad to me...
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fees#Technical_info

add in fee/size or rather multiply by fee, it's the same either way if algebra isn't failing me now.

Just off the top of my head.

[N9_Ninja]

There is a separate issue here.  A confirmed block is counted as one round and from what I've seen the oldest transaction is every block is paid out first.  So if there is a low/zero fee tx it essentially trumps any other deposits.  That doesn't seem right.

<old>It's worth considering reversing the order, making it so that the newest tx in a block is paid out first.  Though there is a lot to think about with this kind of change, much needs to be considered that I'm not.</old>

There is a way, bitcoin internally uses a formula for calculating a transactions wight.  Sorting by this dosen't sound bad to me...
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fees#Technical_info

add in fee/size or rather multiply by fee, it's the same either way if algebra isn't failing me now.

Just off the top of my head.

They should all be in order, the only occurrence that this could not be the case is if a block came in mid parse, but even then they should relatively be in order.

[ShrykeZ]

Hahah someone did some good math and cleared it out

[cheako911]

Hahah someone did some good math and cleared it out

Not only that, but they scored on Satoshi dice and did some more good and paid out that last expired!

I don't know if it's his dashing good looks or if it's that serendipitous luck, but I love 1Excalibur sometimes.

[cheako911]

You won't have a better opportunity than now... I'm just saying.

[ShrykeZ]

Hahah someone did some good math and cleared it out

Not only that, but they scored on Satoshi dice and did some more good and paid out that last expired!

I don't know if it's his dashing good looks or if it's that serendipitous luck, but I love 1Excalibur sometimes.

That's super cool of yo.. him, one day I hope I'm as cool as 1Excalibur

[cheako911]

Stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stop!

[N9_Ninja]

Stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stop!

I am just going to say, you are one of the luckiest, I was just returning to my desk as I saw that payment.

I have halted the program temporarily.

I am going to send it back to you because of how much it is, please TRIPLE CHECK before you send.

[N9_Ninja]

Stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stop!

Refunded that amount.

https://blockchain.info/tx/ee8c024c012118e54cd3323bbe8f6d28074bc0da539200f855a16d228310ef0b

Please don't do that again, I will not be able to stop it if it goes through and I will not allow that to happen again.

[N9_Ninja]

Where do the deposits go incase they expire ? Are they by any chance added to the future payouts or do they go to run the ponzi ?

The payment is used instantly upon being confirmed, deposits that expire have no value and are the losers of the game.

The advantage to active users is that the expired deposits no longer have to be paid.

[cheako911]

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[N9_Ninja]

So  isn't there something like the round system , as no one knows when a new deposit will come, and becomes more of a risk to send.

Each deposit and the block confirmation is basically it's own round.

For example if you send in 0.1, the second it gets confirmed it will be added to the list and it's 99 hour countdown will begin.

[N9_Ninja]

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Thank you, very kind, be more careful in the future. 

Thanks for playing!