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March 09, 2015, 02:50:28 PM |
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if they go bankrupt, doesn't that mean everybody is screwed whether you're holding btc or alts? because wouldn't they have to liquidate all assets and redistribute among stakeholders?
I don't know, but don't think so. As for now they clearly have those alts, and claiming you don't have them anymore would only get you in more serious trouble. The only thing they might be able to take away by doing that is the BTC. But I might be wrong on this. |
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March 09, 2015, 02:57:02 PM |
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March 09, 2015, 03:02:15 PM |
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The exchange is also unavailable right now, "we are deploying our new trading system with the safest ever cold wallet solution, newly designed UI and more". They seem to be making changes to it, hope the changes will be for the better. So let's wait for another day or two, something is about to happen. |
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finlon
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March 09, 2015, 03:28:21 PM |
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Well, I doubt it will get any of us to even trade on their site, after all that happened. They have already lost all of the trust they had. No way, I would put my money on the site, even with the guarantee of it being safe, as thats what a cold wallet essentially was. |
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March 09, 2015, 03:35:49 PM |
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Tired of them promises.. wait another 2 days for "trades, new design??? " who need this shit right now? When everyone need to save money from bter.
Proly that scamers just enjoy mocking users?
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March 09, 2015, 03:37:33 PM
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Read between the statement , safest ever. This probably gives them the excuse to be hacked a third time and give no reason for it.
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March 09, 2015, 03:53:12 PM |
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Thanks for the update, I have added the tweet in the initial post and I hope they will reopen as soon as possible but first they should "gain" the confidence to all the customers. |
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March 09, 2015, 04:10:12 PM |
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LOL Seems like they were waiting for my post. |
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March 09, 2015, 04:10:51 PM |
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Tired of them promises.. wait another 2 days for "trades, new design??? " who need this shit right now? When everyone need to save money from bter.
Proly that scamers just enjoy mocking users?
The same thing that bitstamp did, new design for attract more new user/customers. However I do not think that bter needs a new design but I think they need someone with more knowledge for set up a secure (and real) cold wallet for the future. |
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March 09, 2015, 04:28:46 PM |
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Well, that would be the end of that, right?
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March 09, 2015, 04:29:31 PM |
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Tired of them promises.. wait another 2 days for "trades, new design??? " who need this shit right now? When everyone need to save money from bter.
Proly that scamers just enjoy mocking users?
The same thing that bitstamp did, new design for attract more new user/customers. However I do not think that bter needs a new design but I think they need someone with more knowledge for set up a secure (and real) cold wallet for the future. Bistamp first refunded users then tried to attract more people :| Lin think only about self interests.. He is trying to save exchange by holding user's alt coins. They think if they woun't let us withdraw coins, they can reopen exchange like nothing happend and people will continue to trade there? Fact that alt coins fall in price due to raising btc do not bother them i guess. Although i still do not belive they will open withdraw not will ask for another week for "another design". |
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March 09, 2015, 04:37:24 PM |
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Tired of them promises.. wait another 2 days for "trades, new design??? " who need this shit right now? When everyone need to save money from bter.
Proly that scamers just enjoy mocking users?
The same thing that bitstamp did, new design for attract more new user/customers. However I do not think that bter needs a new design but I think they need someone with more knowledge for set up a secure (and real) cold wallet for the future. Bistamp first refunded users then tried to attract more people :| Lin think only about self interests.. He is trying to save exchange by holding user's alt coins. They think if they woun't let us withdraw coins, they can reopen exchange like nothing happend and people will continue to trade there? Fact that alt coins fall in price due to raising btc do not bother them i guess. Although i still do not belive they will open withdraw not will ask for another week for "another design". I beg to differ. Especially about the part that Lin is trying to save the exchange by holding users' coins. He certainly would if he allowed trading but disallowed withdrawals. But since neither is allowed at the moment, it is a moot point which will be resolved once the exchange opens (if ever). |
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finlon
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March 09, 2015, 04:47:57 PM |
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Tired of them promises.. wait another 2 days for "trades, new design??? " who need this shit right now? When everyone need to save money from bter.
Proly that scamers just enjoy mocking users?
The same thing that bitstamp did, new design for attract more new user/customers. However I do not think that bter needs a new design but I think they need someone with more knowledge for set up a secure (and real) cold wallet for the future. Bistamp first refunded users then tried to attract more people :| Lin think only about self interests.. He is trying to save exchange by holding user's alt coins. They think if they woun't let us withdraw coins, they can reopen exchange like nothing happend and people will continue to trade there? Fact that alt coins fall in price due to raising btc do not bother them i guess. Although i still do not belive they will open withdraw not will ask for another week for "another design". I don't know the real reason behind it, but the volume on bitstamp have actually been affected after the hack. As for bitstamp, I still respect them for being able to refund the coins, and it doesn't really matter if they have come back. |
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March 09, 2015, 04:51:49 PM |
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Tired of them promises.. wait another 2 days for "trades, new design??? " who need this shit right now? When everyone need to save money from bter.
Proly that scamers just enjoy mocking users?
The same thing that bitstamp did, new design for attract more new user/customers. However I do not think that bter needs a new design but I think they need someone with more knowledge for set up a secure (and real) cold wallet for the future. Bistamp first refunded users then tried to attract more people :| Lin think only about self interests.. He is trying to save exchange by holding user's alt coins. They think if they woun't let us withdraw coins, they can reopen exchange like nothing happend and people will continue to trade there? Fact that alt coins fall in price due to raising btc do not bother them i guess. Although i still do not belive they will open withdraw not will ask for another week for "another design". I don't know the real reason behind it, but the volume on bitstamp have actually been affected after the hack. As for bitstamp, I still respect them for being able to refund the coins, and it doesn't really matter if they have come back. Well thats not the reason you should start trusting bitstamp. They might just be un dissolvable. Meaning, that at any particular time, they are always holding a certain amount of coins, and might not be dissolvable if they sold all of them. So in the end it could all end as a ponzi, like MTgox was speculated to be after the hack. |
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March 09, 2015, 04:52:00 PM |
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Finally a good news, I hope that I will be able to withdraw all my altcoins ASAP (after they will reopen). I am really very tired and I only want my altcoins, and obviously I won't use bter.com again (that's sure!). |
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March 09, 2015, 04:56:25 PM |
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@sherby, that might be true. I am not much aware of what MTGox did before. Best thing to do then is not keep your coins on any exchanges/with any third party
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March 09, 2015, 05:00:23 PM |
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Finally a good news, I hope that I will be able to withdraw all my altcoins ASAP (after they will reopen). I am really very tired and I only want my altcoins, and obviously I won't use bter.com again (that's sure!). English translation of what is written in Chinese on the site right now: We are deploying a new trading system, 100% cold wallet storage to solve security problems, faster trading engine, more user-friendly interface, more features. Stay tuned, BTER will return For what it's worth. |
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mishax1
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March 09, 2015, 05:09:35 PM |
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@sherby, that might be true. I am not much aware of what MTGox did before. Best thing to do then is not keep your coins on any exchanges/with any third party
Here's a pretty solid theory on what happened on mt.gox - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=497289.0 |
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March 09, 2015, 05:26:32 PM |
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It's a reasonable assumption that they are holding back withdrawals until they're open for trading again. The few asset withdrawals they enabled must have shown them they would just hemorrhage funds, which would promptly go to Polo and elsewhere. 60% of UNITY has already been withdrawn, for example.
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March 09, 2015, 05:29:15 PM |
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Am I the only one thinking that it's OK for Bter to have been hacked in terms of do you want to keep your funds on there and keep trading. I'm guessing security will be bomb proof after this. There's nobody more paranoid than somebody who's already been stolen from. I trust paranoid people.
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