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May 21, 2015, 12:29:21 PM |
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They won't provide any proof of the cold wallet that makes all of your defence statements and also the newbie just a plain talkshit.
Keep repeating the same phrase over and over again will not turn your assumptions into facts.
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May 21, 2015, 12:33:00 PM |
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It's interesting how there are so many Newbie & Junior Member accounts popping up that are experts on gambling websites legitimacy lately. I've never seen any of these socks users post before. You'd almost think they're alts of rival dice sites but surely not............
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May 21, 2015, 12:36:26 PM |
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It's interesting how there are so many Newbie & Junior Member accounts popping up that are experts on gambling websites legitimacy lately. I've never seen any of these socks users post before. You'd almost think they're alts of rival dice sites but surely not............
It is interesting because this is not the first time this site has been accused of doing this (using sock puppets to push their site). If you look at DaDice's untrusted trust you will see an accusacation of them doing this months ago.
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May 21, 2015, 12:40:33 PM |
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It's interesting how there are so many Newbie & Junior Member accounts popping up that are experts on gambling websites legitimacy lately. I've never seen any of these socks users post before. You'd almost think they're alts of rival dice sites but surely not............
It is interesting because this is not the first time this site has been accused of doing this (using sock puppets to push their site). If you look at DaDice's untrusted trust you will see an accusacation of them doing this months ago. I was thinking that a good number of people criticising da dice are alts of their rivals. How long have da dice been open 2-3 months? Somebody said yesterday that one of the other top dice sites took 8-10 months to publish their cold wallet details. Why are da dice not being afforded the same luxury?
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May 21, 2015, 12:45:24 PM |
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CURRENT @HELPNEPAL DONATIONSI am very pleased to announce that the donations received by @HelpNepal have reached 0.26268972 BTC Please keep them coming in as we still have time to make it even better. Once again DaDice will double all donations received in this way on June 1st and sent to https://www.igot.com/nepal/help_earthquake_victims/Thank you again to all who have contributed and those who still will
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Quickseller
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May 21, 2015, 12:47:56 PM |
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It's interesting how there are so many Newbie & Junior Member accounts popping up that are experts on gambling websites legitimacy lately. I've never seen any of these socks users post before. You'd almost think they're alts of rival dice sites but surely not............
It is interesting because this is not the first time this site has been accused of doing this (using sock puppets to push their site). If you look at DaDice's untrusted trust you will see an accusacation of them doing this months ago. I was thinking that a good number of people criticising da dice are alts of their rivals. How long have da dice been open 2-3 months? Somebody said yesterday that one of the other top dice sites took 8-10 months to publish their cold wallet details. Why are da dice not being afforded the same luxury? Says the person wearing the DaDice signature ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) I think it is fairly clear that mfaspk is a shill for DaDice, I mean come on, brand new account created around the time DaDice opened started making posts yesterday and is 100% supportive of DaDice in all of his posts and mocks people who are asking them hard questions. As I said before, just because other dice sites have taken a long time to do the right thing does not give DaDice the opportunity to do the wrong thing for a long time. And their response to requests for transparency is not exactly screaming trustworthy
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bodgybrothers
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May 21, 2015, 01:21:13 PM |
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That's the thing, we don't want it to turn into another scam and would rather catch it early for the sake of the bitcoin community. The fact that DaDice gets so defensive and never really answers any questions shows, without any doubt, they are lying about something.
"Solvency" is the thing for investors or at the very least potential investors. If da dice didn't provide cold storage address, doesn't mean they didn't intend to prove solvency as they did offer an alternative way for it. Anyway if they didn't offer cold storage, it clearly means they are not interested in potential investors (but it doesn't matter any more!) now that the investment system is gone and bankroll now being totally private means this whole debate can finally come to an end. Anyway as I was saying "solvency" is for real people not for the ones who sell their moral and ethical values with absolutely no self esteem, yes I am talking about you, who apparently sells his soul against some bitcoin dust by saying "All I can offer is trolling other dice threads and piss people off...."... What are you? A BCT prostitute? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=820234.msg9264553#msg9264553Excuse me? I have never been paid by anyone and never participate in sig campaigns. Also note I have donated more money to charity than DaDice has reported their bank roll is worth. I don't need anyone's dust!
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May 21, 2015, 01:26:08 PM |
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That's the thing, we don't want it to turn into another scam and would rather catch it early for the sake of the bitcoin community. The fact that DaDice gets so defensive and never really answers any questions shows, without any doubt, they are lying about something.
"Solvency" is the thing for investors or at the very least potential investors. If da dice didn't provide cold storage address, doesn't mean they didn't intend to prove solvency as they did offer an alternative way for it. Anyway if they didn't offer cold storage, it clearly means they are not interested in potential investors (but it doesn't matter any more!) now that the investment system is gone and bankroll now being totally private means this whole debate can finally come to an end. Anyway as I was saying "solvency" is for real people not for the ones who sell their moral and ethical values with absolutely no self esteem, yes I am talking about you, who apparently sells his soul against some bitcoin dust by saying "All I can offer is trolling other dice threads and piss people off...."... What are you? A BCT prostitute? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=820234.msg9264553#msg9264553Excuse me? I have never been paid by anyone and never participate in sig campaigns. Also note I have donated more money to charity than DaDice has reported their bank roll is worth. I don't need anyone's dust! You have already proven otherwise by your own statements not long ago. If needs be I will quote that again. As a result you have no integrity in a discussion of this nature. You have been asked before to desist with the trolling (Again by your own admittance)
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May 21, 2015, 01:59:49 PM |
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That's the thing, we don't want it to turn into another scam and would rather catch it early for the sake of the bitcoin community. The fact that DaDice gets so defensive and never really answers any questions shows, without any doubt, they are lying about something.
"Solvency" is the thing for investors or at the very least potential investors. If da dice didn't provide cold storage address, doesn't mean they didn't intend to prove solvency as they did offer an alternative way for it. Anyway if they didn't offer cold storage, it clearly means they are not interested in potential investors (but it doesn't matter any more!) now that the investment system is gone and bankroll now being totally private means this whole debate can finally come to an end. Anyway as I was saying "solvency" is for real people not for the ones who sell their moral and ethical values with absolutely no self esteem, yes I am talking about you, who apparently sells his soul against some bitcoin dust by saying "All I can offer is trolling other dice threads and piss people off...."... What are you? A BCT prostitute? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=820234.msg9264553#msg9264553Excuse me? I have never been paid by anyone and never participate in sig campaigns. Also note I have donated more money to charity than DaDice has reported their bank roll is worth. I don't need anyone's dust! You have already proven otherwise by your own statements not long ago. If needs be I will quote that again. As a result you have no integrity in a discussion of this nature. You have been asked before to desist with the trolling (Again by your own admittance) Aww, is baby angry he got caught out?
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May 21, 2015, 02:24:16 PM |
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As far as im concerned new business require new btc talk accounts. and as for the investment side of dadice, NO ONE FORCES ANY ONE TO INVEST. whats wrong with all you haters out there trying to ruin good things with no proof of any scamming or violation to other peoples btc. Because of you whiners who have nothing better to do than troll complete bullshit dadice has been forced to close their investment feature. Who cares about posting cold wallets etc it doesnt mean jack. even other dicesites and casinos can do a runner with every ones money with out warning, it doesnt matter where you invest or play if your willing to invest you have to be willing to lose your investment its as simple as that. with all the money invested in making dadice running with a few hundred btc's wouldnt make sense whats the point in putting all the effort and time into something to get up and run? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ??
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May 21, 2015, 02:29:51 PM |
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As far as im concerned new business require new btc talk accounts. and as for the investment side of dadice, NO ONE FORCES ANY ONE TO INVEST. whats wrong with all you haters out there trying to ruin good things with no proof of any scamming or violation to other peoples btc. Because of you whiners who have nothing better to do than troll complete bullshit dadice has been forced to close their investment feature. Who cares about posting cold wallets etc it doesnt mean jack. even other dicesites and casinos can do a runner with every ones money with out warning, it doesnt matter where you invest or play if your willing to invest you have to be willing to lose your investment its as simple as that. with all the money invested in making dadice running with a few hundred btc's wouldnt make sense whats the point in putting all the effort and time into something to get up and run? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ?? It doesnt mean jack? So if i ask for investments for any purpose and i say i have 300 bitcoins already and someone that wanted to invest comes to me and asks for proof of that money and i tell him i wont show it, how does that make look?
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May 21, 2015, 02:32:51 PM |
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As far as im concerned new business require new btc talk accounts. and as for the investment side of dadice, NO ONE FORCES ANY ONE TO INVEST. whats wrong with all you haters out there trying to ruin good things with no proof of any scamming or violation to other peoples btc. Because of you whiners who have nothing better to do than troll complete bullshit dadice has been forced to close their investment feature. Who cares about posting cold wallets etc it doesnt mean jack. even other dicesites and casinos can do a runner with every ones money with out warning, it doesnt matter where you invest or play if your willing to invest you have to be willing to lose your investment its as simple as that. with all the money invested in making dadice running with a few hundred btc's wouldnt make sense whats the point in putting all the effort and time into something to get up and run? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ?? It doesnt mean jack? So if i ask for investments for any purpose and i say i have 300 bitcoins already and someone that wanted to invest comes to me and asks for proof of that money and i tell him i wont show it, how does that make look? Once again, As DaDice has closed the investments off to the public this point is now moot. Continued harping on the fact is nothing more than a case of FUD. Please read the official statement made earlier for clarification
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May 21, 2015, 03:48:22 PM |
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- Can I see proof of solvency please? > No, because of <shit false excuses>. - Your reasons are false because of <arguments>. Please still prove it. > No, because you can't tell me how to run a business. - But all invest sites prove their solvency and it's so easy for you to prove and keep your good reputation. > No, I will not prove that I have the funds I claim I have, even though it only takes me an hour to do so. Instead, I will close investments so your "point is now moot".
Seriously? xD And people still defend them?!? Lololol.
Anyone with at least a little bit of a brain and who has been around at least a few months in the bitcoin community - should be able to see how fucked up this situation is. Obviously DaDice never had the 500+ coins and therefor either way was going to scam (by directly stealing BR or getting relatively big profit shares) - just like many other dice sites did including dice.ninja for 2k coins.
But yeh guys, keep doing a great job by defending + promoting(signatures) dice sites that lie to us about crucial things like their bankroll amount. Keep justifying it in your head that it's okay because "they didn't scam yet", even though this lie is so obvious and seriously wrong. Guess you really need the money.
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May 21, 2015, 04:03:15 PM |
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Seriously? xD And people still defend them?!? Lololol. Most of the people defending them are either clearly shill accounts or are wearing DaDice signatures. I don't want to make any claims that I cannot backup, however I know that GAW had a signature campaign in which they had many shill accounts pretend to participate in their signature campaign to push their agenda.
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May 21, 2015, 04:06:36 PM |
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- Can I see proof of solvency please? > No, because of <shit false excuses>. - Your reasons are false because of <arguments>. Please still prove it. > No, because you can't tell me how to run a business. - But all invest sites prove their solvency and it's so easy for you to prove and keep your good reputation. > No, I will not prove that I have the funds I claim I have, even though it only takes me an hour to do so. Instead, I will close investments so your "point is now moot".
Seriously? xD And people still defend them?!? Lololol.
Anyone with at least a little bit of a brain and who has been around at least a few months in the bitcoin community - should be able to see how fucked up this situation is. Obviously DaDice never had the 500+ coins and therefor either way was going to scam (by directly stealing BR or getting relatively big profit shares) - just like many other dice sites did including dice.ninja for 2k coins.
But yeh guys, keep doing a great job by defending + promoting(signatures) dice sites that lie to us about crucial things like their bankroll amount. Keep justifying it in your head that it's okay because "they didn't scam yet", even though this lie is so obvious and seriously wrong. Guess you really need the money.
The proof is in the pudding as it were. Check back in a couple of months and see if we have scammed anybody. I believe (in my personal capacity and not as staff) that you will find it is the other way around
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May 21, 2015, 04:07:03 PM |
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why keep harping on about it? investment side of dd has closed and the dice site is still growing daily. happy days ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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May 21, 2015, 04:09:50 PM |
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why keep harping on about it? investment side of dd has closed and the dice site is still growing daily. happy days ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Its just some people love to criticize somepne ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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May 21, 2015, 04:19:09 PM |
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Again the investor option has been REMOVED. No one is being forced or coerce and indeed we have bowed to public pressure in this regard
I think you misunderstood the public pressure: * Nobody was asking you to remove the investor option. * Everyone was asking you to prove that you aren't insolvent. It is worrying that you have hidden an important part of your site in an attempt to make the public pressure go away rather than simply showing that you still have control of the coins you were trusted to look after. Offering 20 BTC payouts with a 1% edge from a 500 BTC bankroll that you actually have is bad enough. Offering 20 BTC payouts with a 1% edge from a 500 BTC bankroll that you already spent is even worse.
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May 21, 2015, 04:39:43 PM |
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Seriously? xD And people still defend them?!? Lololol. Most of the people defending them are either clearly shill accounts or are wearing DaDice signatures. I don't want to make any claims that I cannot backup, however I know that GAW had a signature campaign in which they had many shill accounts pretend to participate in their signature campaign to push their agenda. Here's a counter question; when did bit-x pass independent financial audit ? Never. But still you are supporting them in their adv. campaign.
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May 21, 2015, 04:42:24 PM |
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Here's a counter question; when did bit-x pass independed financial audit ?
Here's another; what did you have for breakfast today? But can we please try to keep this on-topic? If bit-x have been asked for a proof of solvency and in response made a bunch of weak attempts to avoid the question, then that's a matter for their thread. It's nothing to do with the question at hand.
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