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[Quickseller]

how does that argument not hold any weight? You still have the previous investments right?

No we don't have, check our bankroll.

We can't; you refuse to show it to us. All we can see are numbers on your site with nothing to back it up.

they're lying, check those users stats: https://stats.dadice.com/u/leen93 and https://stats.dadice.com/u/scotch

both with over 100btc invested right now. though what the site is displaying is infact the effective investment after kelly application, since this is leen93's cold wallet: https://blockchain.info/nl/address/1PmDaczwNg2QUyj5j8kFHNP53H44LR74nS

It looks like their stats reflect that leen did in fact cash out. The other investor most likely did not.

[burnzydog]

how does that argument not hold any weight? You still have the previous investments right?

No we don't have, check our bankroll.

We can't; you refuse to show it to us. All we can see are numbers on your site with nothing to back it up.

they're lying, check those users stats: https://stats.dadice.com/u/leen93 and https://stats.dadice.com/u/scotch

both with over 100btc invested right now. though what the site is displaying is infact the effective investment after kelly application, since this is leen93's cold wallet: https://blockchain.info/nl/address/1PmDaczwNg2QUyj5j8kFHNP53H44LR74nS

see you think this is proof. What you don't see is how many times these players withdrew there investments and reinvested. I could invest 20btc and divest it and invest another 40btc and divest it. This would show my investment as 60btc. Stop trying to find your so called proof from nothing.

[dadice]

how does that argument not hold any weight? You still have the previous investments right?

No we don't have, check our bankroll.

We can't; you refuse to show it to us. All we can see are numbers on your site with nothing to back it up.

most probably they dont have even half of it thats why they cant show it, there are no other reasons i can think of

At least we have enough to honor all our payments due.

[ClevaRookie]

Why is it that if they do not give into your demands that they are labeled as a scam site. Surely the opinion of the investor is more important to any business than the public opinion. If you walk into any major casino and demand proof of their solvency they will laugh at you.

You say that you gave them a chance, but you have in actual fact not done so. Give them the opportunity to do so in their own way and in their own time, not based on your demands. No one was coerced into investing there. No one is coerced to play there. The people who continue to use this site are doing it of their own free will.

This is a very new site, problems will crop up and I am sure they will deal with those problems when they crop up. Digging up the same old bone to inspect will not give you answers. It will make anyone dig their heels in.

As for the competition that keeps coming here to give their two cents worth, you should be ashamed. Go to your own threads and focus on your advertising there. Stop trying to throw your weight around and prance around like little lordlings. Everyone has had the chance to give their negative/positive opinions. Leave it at that now. DaDice will show their colours in due time. Not, on your demand

[dadice]

Da Dice, Never played at your site, but it seems silly and will ultimately lead to ur demise that you dont make certain things public. Especially when the likes of dooglus and stunna suggest you make cold storage public.

My wild guess is they used invertor funds to bankroll sig campaigns and other such advertising. I also believe this was a long term scam from the start.

Why ppl play away from the 2 or 3 most trusted sites is beyond me.

Also if I may add we no longer offer the investment option to the public as stated earlier today and has been repeated at numerous times since. As such that argument cannot hold any weight

how does that argument not hold any weight? You still have the previous investments right? If so then the argument is just as valid as it was previously. You stopping accepting additional investments is a moot thing to do because no one in their right mind would invest additional money with you at this point.

No we don't have, check our bankroll. Apart from what is called dust investors here and the one I've mentioned yesterday who was opposed to publishing any cold wallet address, the rest withdrew already.

The last time your hit wallet sent a transaction was yesterday at 3:04 PM GMT which is roughly 27 hours ago. The last time the wallet containing customer deposits sent a transaction was yesterday at ~11:30 AM GMT.

I don't see any signs of processing any withdrawals (even from small investors) in the last day unless you processed them from addresses that are not public/known.

You are again and again are posting fud here. Mate, realize it, you are not having all our wallet addresses. We are receiving deposits and are processing withdrawals many times every hour. Why don't you stop trolling here and find the truth. Go to our chat and asked people there if they withdrew or deposited. You might get a shock dude....

[marcotheminer]

how does that argument not hold any weight? You still have the previous investments right?

No we don't have, check our bankroll.

We can't; you refuse to show it to us. All we can see are numbers on your site with nothing to back it up.

most probably they dont have even half of it thats why they cant show it, there are no other reasons i can think of

At least we have enough to honor all our payments due.

Just prove it. It's not that hard..

[dadice]

how does that argument not hold any weight? You still have the previous investments right?

No we don't have, check our bankroll.

We can't; you refuse to show it to us. All we can see are numbers on your site with nothing to back it up.

they're lying, check those users stats: https://stats.dadice.com/u/leen93 and https://stats.dadice.com/u/scotch

both with over 100btc invested right now. though what the site is displaying is infact the effective investment after kelly application, since this is leen93's cold wallet: https://blockchain.info/nl/address/1PmDaczwNg2QUyj5j8kFHNP53H44LR74nS

leen invested with us since early March and it is indeed the accumulated investors balance shown, since this are user statistics, not site statistics.

[dadice]

how does that argument not hold any weight? You still have the previous investments right?

No we don't have, check our bankroll.

We can't; you refuse to show it to us. All we can see are numbers on your site with nothing to back it up.

most probably they dont have even half of it thats why they cant show it, there are no other reasons i can think of

At least we have enough to honor all our payments due.

Just prove it. It's not that hard..

We do that every day, by respecting withdrawal requests. People call us shady? You are running a campaign for a site much shadier than ours - the sad part is that you know it.....

[Twipple]

We do that every day, by respecting withdrawal requests. People all us shady? You are running a campaign for a site much shadier than ours - the sad part is that you know it.....

We come back to the Ponzi discussion. Being insolvent, makes you just like a Ponzi. You will be able to accept withdrawal request and also will be able to make some. But at the end , you will be insolvent, and there will be some users who won't get their money back.

[dooglus]

leen invested with us since early March and it is indeed the accumulated investors balance shown, since this are user statistics, not site statistics.

So if I invest 1 BTC then divest it, and repeat 1000 times, it will show that I have invested 1000 BTC?

That's retarded. Why would you design it like that?

All anyone cares about is the amount people currently have invested, not a sum of all their comings and goings.

It's hard to believe that anyone would design a stats page that shows the total of all invests without also showing the total of all divests. What would be the point? What would it mean?

It seems more likely to me that those two users are still invested and you have been caught in another lie when you said they aren't.

[dadice]

leen invested with us since early March and it is indeed the accumulated investors balance shown, since this are user statistics, not site statistics.

So if I invest 1 BTC then divest it, and repeat 1000 times, it will show that I have invested 1000 BTC?

That's retarded. Why would you design it like that?

All anyone cares about is the amount people currently have invested, not a sum of all their comings and goings.

It's hard to believe that anyone would design a stats page that shows the total of all invests without also showing the total of all divests. What would be the point? What would it mean?

It seems more likely to me that those two users are still invested and you have been caught in another lie when you said they aren't.

Ask leen what happened mate, she is known on the forum as leen93, you can PM her. As I said earlier the other investor - who opposed publishing the address - is still with us, but a few others withdrew as well.

As for the stats I agree with you, should we open the investment part again in the future, we will take care of showing current investments and divests and not accumulated results.

[dooglus]

I might be being dumb here but somebody help me out.....
Da Dice have now disabled the investor option so it's all a moot point but even if they have had people invest & some of the money invested has gone on paying for website development, signature campaigns to help the site grow why is that a problem?

The problem is that what happens on dice sites isn't really "investing". I picked a bad name for it. A better name would be "bankrolling". My bad.

When you invest in a company, you're typically giving them some funds in exchange for part ownership of that company. They're free to use that money to build the company, and you reap the rewards since you own a share of it.

When you "invest" in a dice site, you're merely providing funds for the bankroll. The agreement is that your coins will be used to bankroll the site, and in exchange you get a share of the profits and losses according to the size of the amount you risk. You're meant to be able to divest your coins at any time and withdraw them. There's an expectation that the site will hold the coins for you and have them available for withdrawal should you want them. If they spend a bunch of them on bombarding forums with advertising (say) then they no longer have enough coins to cover their liabilities. They still have enough coins to let some of the investors pull out, but if they all wanted out at the same time there wouldn't be enough coins to pay them all.

Do you see the difference? The typical dice-site deal is that the site isn't meant to be spending the customer funds. It should only use them as the bankroll that other customers play against. Maybe DaDice have a special arrangement with their investors that means it's fine if they spend their coins on just anything. In which case there's no problem at all. The investors might not be able to withdraw, and that's OK because that's what they agreed to. I didn't look at the DaDice 'invest' page to see what they agreed to.

[Twipple]

leen invested with us since early March and it is indeed the accumulated investors balance shown, since this are user statistics, not site statistics.

So if I invest 1 BTC then divest it, and repeat 1000 times, it will show that I have invested 1000 BTC?

That's retarded. Why would you design it like that?

All anyone cares about is the amount people currently have invested, not a sum of all their comings and goings.

It's hard to believe that anyone would design a stats page that shows the total of all invests without also showing the total of all divests. What would be the point? What would it mean?

It seems more likely to me that those two users are still invested and you have been caught in another lie when you said they aren't.

I believe leen is actaully a bitcointalk member and can confirm about the invested amount. Unless he is involved with dadice , I think he will tell the truth.

[dadice]

We do that every day, by respecting withdrawal requests. People all us shady? You are running a campaign for a site much shadier than ours - the sad part is that you know it.....

We come back to the Ponzi discussion. Being insolvent, makes you just like a Ponzi. You will be able to accept withdrawal request and also will be able to make some. But at the end , you will be insolvent, and there will be some users who won't get their money back.

Again, maybe English is your third or fourth language. We are solvent and honor all withdrawal request just on-time, small and large ones. I have asked earlier if I can prove it here.

[Twipple]

We do that every day, by respecting withdrawal requests. People all us shady? You are running a campaign for a site much shadier than ours - the sad part is that you know it.....

We come back to the Ponzi discussion. Being insolvent, makes you just like a Ponzi. You will be able to accept withdrawal request and also will be able to make some. But at the end , you will be insolvent, and there will be some users who won't get their money back.

Again, maybe English is your third or fourth language. We are solvent and honor all withdrawal request just on-time, small and large ones. I have asked earlier if I can prove it here.

Seems to me English is your fifth language. If you are solvent, then provide the necessary proof. If you are not willing to show it, due to the funds of the largest investor, then fine, transfer the rest to another wallet through a mixer or something, and provide the proof to a trusted member.

[dadice]

We do that every day, by respecting withdrawal requests. People all us shady? You are running a campaign for a site much shadier than ours - the sad part is that you know it.....

We come back to the Ponzi discussion. Being insolvent, makes you just like a Ponzi. You will be able to accept withdrawal request and also will be able to make some. But at the end , you will be insolvent, and there will be some users who won't get their money back.

Again, maybe English is your third or fourth language. We are solvent and honor all withdrawal request just on-time, small and large ones. I have asked earlier if I can prove it here.

Seems to me English is your fifth language. If you are solvent, then provide the necessary proof. If you are not willing to show it, due to the funds of the largest investor, then fine, transfer the rest to another wallet through a mixer or something, and provide the proof to a trusted member.

Why shall we do that? Do you have any interest in dadice or are you just a shill? If you have any interest in dadice you surely know how to find me on Skype or in our chat. Otherwise, kindly shut up!

[BTCballa]

Sad is the only word i can think of using to describe this situation. IMO it doesnt matter that investments have been disabled. The fact is that when they were enabled you couldn't provide proof of the funds.

When NLnico asked for cold wallet address, you denied. You do realize how ridiculously suspicious that is right? He was going to potential add your site to the list of verified dice sites. Why wouldn't you want that?

DaDice is a joke.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Da Dice admin & staff I advise you to stop responding to the doubters & trolls.
If you keep interacting with them they'll keep coming back & back & back.
Ignore them & eventually they'll go away.

[BTCballa]

Da Dice admin & staff I advise you to stop responding to the doubters & trolls.
If you keep interacting with them they'll keep coming back & back & back.
Ignore them & eventually they'll go away.

Not a troll, but def a hater of shady activity.

[Da_Dice_Staff]

Sad is the only word i can think of using to describe this situation. IMO it doesnt matter that investments have been disabled. The fact is that when they were enabled you couldn't provide proof of the funds.

When NLnico asked for cold wallet address, you denied. You do realize how ridiculously suspicious that is right? He was going to potential add your site to the list of verified dice sites. Why wouldn't you want that?

DaDice is a joke.

If you had bothered to read the previous posts you would have understood the reasoning especially with the removal of the investments now. I said it before and I will say it again.

No land based casino will allow just anyone to walk into their vaults to see if there is money there. Revealing anything of the sort is at the at the owners discretion. Once again the lone remaining investor is happy with their position. Our players both loyal older players and new are all happy with DaDice. It is therefore no concern of yours seeing as you are neither.

The same goes to all of those who are not members/players on DaDice. Your comments and actions on theis thread are well described by clevarookie in earlier posts. You have said your pieces and have had those anwers DaDice would give. If you feel that you have warned people then fair enough, you may now withdraw with your conscious at ease.

However. I dare each and every one of you to look back on this in a few months time and if proven wrong I personally expect you to admit your errors and apologise here in that particualr instance. Until then please refrain from the continued and quite childish FUD spamming