[ANN][NEOS]Neos v2.1- Blowfish, 2FA, Theft Recovery, Decoy System - SHA-256

[twoturtles]

When Neos was first created, I had a vision for what I wanted it to be.  It's been nearly 7 months since an idea born of passion came to fruition and not a day has gone by that development hasn't been active.  Each day working with the community and being involved in the crypto space has given invaluable insight as to what people wanted and needed.  The community has been an incredible source of not only motivation but support as well.

Along the journey through the various stages of development, the requests that have been made have mostly made it to development and production.  There are a few outstanding ones that have been pending for quite some time now.  The reason for that was simply Neos just wasn't ready for it.  One missing key component was security.  Today however, that is not the case.  Today I am pleased to announce the new Neos platform, code named Kratos.  Kratos in Greek mythology symbolizes power and strength.  That is exactly what Neos represents.  A powerful system with a strong development team behind it and an even stronger community presence.

Please watch the screencast before installing Neos 2.1 as it contains important information regarding the upgrade process to prevent any chance of wallet loss or corruption. (http://youtu.be/s_Lvg_VcmKY)

Some technical and network details:

Algorithm: SHA-256
Total money supply: 21 million
Block reward: 50 Neos
Block maturity: 120 confirmations
Transaction confirmations: 6
Halving occurs every 210,000 blocks
Transaction fee: 0.00000001 Neos
Difficulty adjustment: every block using Dark Gravity Wave

Some of the standard Neos features include:

In-wallet trading (one-click withdrawal, mass order cancellation, one-click deposit, order executions, candlesticks)
An in-wallet block explorer
Encrypted messaging
Live statistics and market data
In-wallet personalized mining worker stats and multipool stats
In-wallet mining calculator
Dashboard news as polled from our Twitter account
Multi-currency conversion data (BTC and 21 different currencies supported)
The ability to export your transactions to 3 different formats (Excel, CSV, and JSON)
Personal aliases for receiving both Neos and messages
One-click wallet updates with automatic notification of new updates
Automatic 24-hour backups of your wallet
Market data and statistics (Neos in circulation, market cap, averaged value, averaged global trade volume)

Now onto what has been the primary focus in Neos 2.1: The authentication system and our unique theft recovery system

Firstly I'll explain a few key points to our approach in effort to secure your Neos platform:

Each installation is unique to itself.  Your wallet files aren't transferrable to another Neos install.  This prevents someone for example from replacing your files with modified wallet files to gain access or corrupt it.

Your Neos configuration is no longer plaintext.  In earlier releases of Neos, conf.php was plaintext and that just isn't acceptable to me.

Tamper-evident: if someone tries to circumvent the system by various methods, the wallet will cease to work until support is contacted.  There is never a legitimate reason to remove Neos wallet files, and the only time this would occur is if someone intentionally has done so.

Authentication is handled by a custom system I've written that doesn't utilize cookies or sessions.  Your auto-logout time can be adjusted in your Neos settings.  Passwords are encrypted using blowfish, salted, and with 15 rounds of hashing.  Authentication isn't instant, and that's by design.

Decoy system: upon entering the system with a bad password, it won't seem any different from a valid login.  In fact, it will allow the attacker to proceed with nearly every function that they would be able to had they logged in with a valid password.  From sending Neos, to withdrawing it from exchanges - it's all fabricated and very convincing and while they think they're in the process of robbing you blind, they're actually just being kept busy while you're notified of it.

Notification system: upon bad login, if you've registered an email address with our security system, you'll be notified with details when someone attempts to break into your wallet.

Two-factor authentication: in your Neos settings, you have the option to configure your Google Authenticator for Neos.  Simply scan the QR code, verify the code from your phone and save your settings and you're now protected with two-factor auth the next time you attempt to log in.

Upon logging into the system even with a bad password, but a proper two-factor code - you will enter the decoy system.

Upon startup if either Neos or PHP are modified, you will be notified and given the option to download the proper (clean) files before Neos even starts, preventing risk of accidentally running a wallet stealer or virus someone has placed on your system.

Something new introduced

I've always stated Neos was a creation out of passion for crypto and what it represents: freedom.  I've also expressed my distain for those wishing only to flourish by means of theft.  Every time I hear of either a scandalous exchange closing down due to apparent theft, or people having their coin stolen via wallet stealers or computers stolen I cringe just as crypto does as it's being punched in the proverbial stomach.  I'm not here just for Neos, I'm here for crypto and the community in general is something I value.  With that being said, I wanted to code something that would serve not only the Neos community but potentially the entire community.

With that being said I present to you with Neos Kratos - our thief locator and fund recovery system.

I'll outline the possible scenarios in which this system is useful and what it's capable of and then take a less technical approach in my explanation.

1.  Someone sends out a wallet stealer disguised as another coin, you run it - your funds are gone but the thief has your wallet now even if it's encrypted.
2.  Someone breaches an exchange and steals the wallet files from it
3.  Someone steals your laptop with your wallets on it

Here's what's going to happen as a result in each one of those situations:

1.  You're going to be notified via e-mail as to the location of the thief as precisely as possible using geo-location methods.  The data provided can then be used in locating the offender.
2.  You're going to receive your wallet back via email

How is this beneficial in general?  Well, let's take into consideration wallets swiped from an exchange.  You've now (along with many other folks) have lost your Neos, Litecoin, and Bitcoin for example.  The thief loads the Litecoin wallet, sends it out if possible to dump it.  He takes the same steps with the Bitcoin wallet.  Next he loads the Neos wallet.  The moment he does, he's not only outed himself but has also provided crucial information that helps take the guess work out of "Who stole the wallets?".  This can lead to reconcilliation and assist in loss prevention.  Alongside that, the exchange also receives their Neos wallet back via email.

Now, in scenario #2 the same applies as the above mentioned outcome.  You not only will be able to find out where your Neos wallet went and the attacker, but also recover at least your Neos wallet and hopefully in the end - your other wallets.

In scenario #3, your wallet can be marked as "Physically Stolen" and once Neos is turned on, locate your laptop or device.

The above system is active, and pending community feedback will become more militant and finely-tuned.  There are additional preventative and recovery options I have developed but they are a bit more aggressive - however they are pending response from an attorney well-versed in crypto as well as other areas.  As we fine-tune this system and get community feedback, I'm confident it's going to be an incredible asset to both Neos and crypto in general.

With everything above taken into consideration I'll address a feature that everyone has been requesting for some time now and the reasons it wasn't included are straightforward: I didn't feel it was prudent to provide an in-wallet marketplace or other spendability options with a system I didn't feel was secure enough to protect the community from potential loss.

A custom marketplace is already in development now utilizing our new system with an as-of-now unknown ETA.  Just as we have done with Neos since the first day, we're taking the appropriate measures to do it properly.  At the moment, pending funding for an already-created prototype we have a hardware wallet in development that utilizes the new Neos system and is in plain English - pretty damned cool.

So where is Neos headed now?  In the same direction we've been heading in for the past 7 months - forward.  With the introduction of these new features and a few others in development we're sure to have our hands full over the next coming months.  One thing I can happily say is that we're currently being processed by LitePaid.com and coingateway.net.  As more services accept Neos as an option that have APIs, you can bet we're going to be developing for those services to the best of our ability - with a unique approach.

Something else as by community request we're considering - is a hosted wallet option.  As with everything we do, serious consideration and forethought is being put into this and updates will be made public as they become available.

I'm also in the process of developing a "My Neos" center for the community for various purposes and utilities.

You can download Neos 2.1 here:

Windows: http://www.neoscoin.com/windows
osX: http://www.neoscoin.com/osx
Debian Linux: http://www.neoscoin.com/debian
Ubuntu Linux: http://www.neoscoin.com/ubuntu

Our website will be getting re-designed by yak this week to reflect the new direction we're heading in.

You can buy Neos at the following exchanges:

https://www.bittrex.com
https://www.poloniex.com
https://www.bleutrade.com
https://www.utxnet.com

We're also on the vote list at https://www.cryptsy.com/coinvotes

We take support very seriously and provide it with no cost and no limitations.  Our support options are via telephone, skype, teamviewer, IRC, and our forum (http://forum.neoscoin.com).  Without our community, we wouldn't have a reason to do what we do - and we thank you for that.

Other resources:

Our reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/NeosCoin
Our twitter: https://twitter.com/NeosCoin
Chat with us on IRC: https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/#neoscoin

A screencast demonstration of the abilities described here in Neos 2.1: http://youtu.be/s_Lvg_VcmKY

If you need assistance in migrating your old wallet to the new Neos 2.1 system, please don't hesitate to contact me.  I strongly urge everyone if they haven't been running Neos 2.0.2 (automatic backups) to make a copy of your wallet.dat somewhere safe first and THEN copying it to your new Neos installation.

This will be the last time a full installation/replacement will need to occur.  Everything developed over the past 7 months has lead to where Neos was intended to be.  It's been a process along the way, but we're finally here and I thank you all for your support along the way and patience.


     Best regards,

syntaks

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[ocminer]

Fresh chain or old?

[twoturtles]

Fresh chain or old?

Same chain

[twoturtles]

I'll be creating some tutorials for migration, installation and backups very shortly.  If anyone has any questions or needs a hand, don't hesitate.

     Best regards,

syntaks

[kelsey]

have to admit the anti theft stuff sounded good for a sec, but you lost me at 1million ico 

[tempus]

I didn't have much time, so I just looked at the Screencast so far, but....

THIS! IS! AWESOME!

Everybody, not just Neos-Investors, should watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_Lvg_VcmKY


Quoting Syntaks:
"Not only will it give us more information about the thieve, however, it will, from there machine where they load the wallet, take that wallet and send it right back to you."

[twoturtles]

have to admit the anti theft stuff sounded good for a sec, but you lost me at 1million ico 

That was nearly 7 months and most of them are still on the exchange as shown by the "rich list" and when Bittrex had their beta site enabled.

      Best regards,

syntaks

[xxxgoodgirls]

Very interesting features, this is such an awesome job.

[xxxgoodgirls]

Hello Syntax I am trying to upgrade the wallet through ubuntu-installer.sh; it ends fine and then it asks me to run neos as normal user and this is where I get this error:

Code:

/usr/bin/neos: line 53: /home/user/.neoscoin/Neos : No such file or directory

Cheers

[twoturtles]

Hello Syntax I am trying to upgrade the wallet through ubuntu-installer.sh; it ends fine and then it asks me to run neos as normal user and this is where I get this error:

Code:

/usr/bin/neos: line 53: /home/user/.neoscoin/Neos : No such file or directory

Cheers

Hey,

     It was a typo in /usr/bin/neos.  Download http://install.neoscoin.com/v2/2.1/linux/ubuntu/64-bit/neos-control and move it into /usr/bin/neos and that should do the trick. If not - just let me know.

     Best regards,

syntaks

[stoner19]

Awesome AWESOME security features included in the latest version. Everyone may already have an opinion about NEOS, but EVERYONE should still watch the video and learn about the features. This is what crypto needs. This what what the FUTURE of crypto needs. No more wallet thefts, no more hacks and users getting away with it.

[Cornett]

Syntaks, are you planning to make Nightmode for the wallet ?

[twoturtles]

Syntaks, are you planning to make Nightmode for the wallet ?

Is that a request?  I can add that into the queue for sure.

[Cornett]

Syntaks, are you planning to make Nightmode for the wallet ?

Is that a request?  I can add that into the queue for sure.

Yes. It would be nice to have the dark theme!

And i like your serious direction to the top security path

[twoturtles]

Syntaks, are you planning to make Nightmode for the wallet ?

Is that a request?  I can add that into the queue for sure.

Yes. It would be nice to have the dark theme!

And i like your serious direction to the top security path

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"night mode" theme

Consider it done.  As far as security goes, I call it a "functioning prototype".  I want some community feedback before I mandate it.  It's not the be-all end-all but it's an effort that just might help at one point or another.

[twoturtles]

Upgrading Your Neos Linux Installation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNbLh3YTLdQ
Upgrading Your Neos osX Installation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mGVQvNjmE4
Upgrading Your Neos Windows Installation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QBF4uTs3M0

I created these to help folks along with the upgrade process.  If anyone has any questions or issues, please contact me and I'll be glad to help.

   Best regards,

syntaks

[tempus]

Just want to give an alternative way for OsX without much terminal-typing. It's just needed to show the neos-folder, because it's hidden. Then you can continue as usual.


Before the 2.1-installation:

1. Open the terminal  (easy to find with cmd+space ....type in terminal)

2. copy-paste: defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles 1  (press return)

copy-paste: killall Finder (press return)

3. Now you should find the neos-folder here: Macintosh HD ▸ User ▸ yourname ▸ .neos

4. Rename it
It's just to keep it if you have to go back, and there you'll find your wallet.dat and the back-up-folder (neos-data --> backups)


Now the 2.0.2-installation is moved you can handle the new installation and the integration of your wallet.dat very easy .  


2.1 Installation:

1. Extract the downloaded file (http://www.neoscoin.com/osx)

2. Double-click on Neos-v2.1-osXSetup

3. If the launcher is ready (on your desk) --> Start Neos ---> Open Your Wallet

4. The site "Welcome to Neos...." should open

5. Set your Password for the System (should be different from your wallet.dat you want to integrate), click on "Continue Neos Setup"

6. Setup-Process begins. As soon it's completed, the Login-Screen opens.

7. If you LogIn there should be a fresh wallet (but you don't have to login now)


To integrate your wallet.dat:


1. Click on Launcher: "Stop Neos"

2. Go to: Macintosh HD ▸ User ▸ yourname ▸ .neos ▸ neos-data   (the fresh 2.1)

3. Throw the empty wallet.dat to the trash

4. Copy the wallet.dat from your renamed 2.0.2-installation to the new installation: .neos ▸ neos-data

5. Double click on Launcher -> Start Neos -> Open your Wallet

6. Login with your Password for the system

7. Wallet should open and show your balance. Maybe it takes some minutes.




Now you can set up the security-system (2FA, PIN, Email-varifiction)....... and feel safe.
Syntaks shows it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_Lvg_VcmKY

And everybody should try some bad passwords. The fake-wallets are really surprising. ;-)


I copied the renamed 2.0.2 folder on an USB-Stick and deleted it from the HD.


After the installation


To hide the .neos-folder.
Open the terminal and copy paste:

1. copy-paste: defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles 0 (press return)
2. copy-paste: killall Finder (press return)

[xxxgoodgirls]

Hello Syntax I am trying to upgrade the wallet through ubuntu-installer.sh; it ends fine and then it asks me to run neos as normal user and this is where I get this error:

Code:

/usr/bin/neos: line 53: /home/user/.neoscoin/Neos : No such file or directory

Cheers

Hey,

     It was a typo in /usr/bin/neos.  Download http://install.neoscoin.com/v2/2.1/linux/ubuntu/64-bit/neos-control and move it into /usr/bin/neos and that should do the trick. If not - just let me know.

     Best regards,

syntaks

I launched mv neos-control /usr/bin/neos as root but now when I try to run neos I got bash: /usr/bin/neos: Permission denied (tried both as root and as a normal user)
Cheers

[twoturtles]

Hello Syntax I am trying to upgrade the wallet through ubuntu-installer.sh; it ends fine and then it asks me to run neos as normal user and this is where I get this error:

Code:

/usr/bin/neos: line 53: /home/user/.neoscoin/Neos : No such file or directory

Cheers

Hey,

     It was a typo in /usr/bin/neos.  Download http://install.neoscoin.com/v2/2.1/linux/ubuntu/64-bit/neos-control and move it into /usr/bin/neos and that should do the trick. If not - just let me know.

     Best regards,

syntaks

I launched mv neos-control /usr/bin/neos as root but now when I try to run neos I got bash: /usr/bin/neos: Permission denied (tried both as root and as a normal user)
Cheers

Type: chmod 755 /usr/bin/neos and let me know if that helps.

     Best regards,

syntaks

[xxxgoodgirls]

Hello Syntax I am trying to upgrade the wallet through ubuntu-installer.sh; it ends fine and then it asks me to run neos as normal user and this is where I get this error:

Code:

/usr/bin/neos: line 53: /home/user/.neoscoin/Neos : No such file or directory

Cheers

Hey,

     It was a typo in /usr/bin/neos.  Download http://install.neoscoin.com/v2/2.1/linux/ubuntu/64-bit/neos-control and move it into /usr/bin/neos and that should do the trick. If not - just let me know.

     Best regards,

syntaks

I launched mv neos-control /usr/bin/neos as root but now when I try to run neos I got bash: /usr/bin/neos: Permission denied (tried both as root and as a normal user)
Cheers

Type: chmod 755 /usr/bin/neos and let me know if that helps.

     Best regards,

syntaks

edit: nvm solder, thank you!
edit2: I deleted everything (.neoscoin, /usr/local/neos and /usr/bin/neos) then launched neos as a normal user.

Code:

Downloading a Neos bootstrap to speed up the initial chain sync...
Downloading the Neos launcher...
cp: cannot stat ‘/usr/local/neos/setup’: No such file or directory
/usr/bin/neos: line 31: /usr/local/neos/bin/neosphp: No such file or directory
mv: cannot stat ‘neoscoin.conf’: No such file or directory
mv: cannot stat ‘conf.php’: No such file or directory
buynamecoin@buynamecoin-VirtualBox:~$ Error accessing /usr/local/neos/bin/neosphp: No such file or directory
Error accessing /usr/local/neos/bin/neosphp: No such file or directory
^C

Any hint?
Cheers

[twoturtles]

Hello Syntax I am trying to upgrade the wallet through ubuntu-installer.sh; it ends fine and then it asks me to run neos as normal user and this is where I get this error:

Code:

/usr/bin/neos: line 53: /home/user/.neoscoin/Neos : No such file or directory

Cheers

Hey,

     It was a typo in /usr/bin/neos.  Download http://install.neoscoin.com/v2/2.1/linux/ubuntu/64-bit/neos-control and move it into /usr/bin/neos and that should do the trick. If not - just let me know.

     Best regards,

syntaks

I launched mv neos-control /usr/bin/neos as root but now when I try to run neos I got bash: /usr/bin/neos: Permission denied (tried both as root and as a normal user)
Cheers

Type: chmod 755 /usr/bin/neos and let me know if that helps.

     Best regards,

syntaks

edit: nvm solder, thank you!
edit2: I deleted everything (.neoscoin, /usr/local/neos and /usr/bin/neos) then launched neos as a normal user.

Code:

Downloading a Neos bootstrap to speed up the initial chain sync...
Downloading the Neos launcher...
cp: cannot stat ‘/usr/local/neos/setup’: No such file or directory
/usr/bin/neos: line 31: /usr/local/neos/bin/neosphp: No such file or directory
mv: cannot stat ‘neoscoin.conf’: No such file or directory
mv: cannot stat ‘conf.php’: No such file or directory
buynamecoin@buynamecoin-VirtualBox:~$ Error accessing /usr/local/neos/bin/neosphp: No such file or directory
Error accessing /usr/local/neos/bin/neosphp: No such file or directory
^C

Any hint?
Cheers

As your normal user: rm -r .neoscoin
As root: rm -r /usr/local/neos && ./<ubuntu or debian>-installer.sh

If that doesn't work, want to hop on IRC and I'll walk you through the process?  The reason that occurred is you can't mix two installations so it won't complete.

     Best regards,

syntaks

[xxxgoodgirls]

Never seen a dev so devoted like syntax.
He prompted on my pc through the remote control and fixed the problem for me.
He deserves to be taken as a example by every developer.
I am really sure this coin will be worth isomething in the future thank to him.

Cheers

[tempus]

Never seen a dev so devoted like syntax.
He prompted on my pc through the remote control and fixed the problem for me.
He deserves to be taken as a example by every developer.
I am really sure this coin will be worth isomething in the future thank to him.

Cheers

Yes, he's always helpful. He fixed my system some moths ago, too. He types that fast... next time I will make a video from it so I can watch it in slow motion later.

[twoturtles]

It's my pleasure guys - that's what I'm here for. =)  In other news: Neos welcomes Stoyvo as our new community manager! http://forum.neoscoin.com/t/neos-welcomes-stoyvo-as-its-new-community-manager/390

     Best regards,

syntaks

[twoturtles]

You can now deposit Neos directly into your bank account in 20 supported countries!

http://forum.neoscoin.com/t/neos-supported-on-bitbill-nl-deposit-neos-into-your-bank-account-in-20-supported-countries/391

     Best regards,

syntaks

[TheMage]

Bump for an amazing developer which all developers should aspire to become.


Why doesn't this get more attention? These security features are amazing and nothing short of tech that is desperately needed in our industry.

[xxxgoodgirls]

Hello Syntax I was wondering is there a way to dump the private keys from the wallet?

[twoturtles]

Hello Syntax I was wondering is there a way to dump the private keys from the wallet?

There is via commandline for sure.  I'll make a note to put that in the wallet interface under 'tools' though.  I'm working on rolling out some patches right now and then fixing the backup tool.  I'll get on top of that immediately though - I've been meaning to.

     Best regards,

syntaks

[xxxgoodgirls]

Hello Syntax I was wondering is there a way to dump the private keys from the wallet?

There is via commandline for sure.  I'll make a note to put that in the wallet interface under 'tools' though.  I'm working on rolling out some patches right now and then fixing the backup tool.  I'll get on top of that immediately though - I've been meaning to.

     Best regards,

syntaks

Can you please tell me how to get to the command line?
Yeah it would be great to have it under tools!

Cheers

[twoturtles]

Hello Syntax I was wondering is there a way to dump the private keys from the wallet?

There is via commandline for sure.  I'll make a note to put that in the wallet interface under 'tools' though.  I'm working on rolling out some patches right now and then fixing the backup tool.  I'll get on top of that immediately though - I've been meaning to.

     Best regards,

syntaks

Can you please tell me how to get to the command line?
Yeah it would be great to have it under tools!

Cheers

type this:

neos dumpprivkey <neos address>

[xxxgoodgirls]

Hello Syntax I was wondering is there a way to dump the private keys from the wallet?

There is via commandline for sure.  I'll make a note to put that in the wallet interface under 'tools' though.  I'm working on rolling out some patches right now and then fixing the backup tool.  I'll get on top of that immediately though - I've been meaning to.

     Best regards,

syntaks

Can you please tell me how to get to the command line?
Yeah it would be great to have it under tools!

Cheers

type this:

neos dumpprivkey <neos address>

Oh you mean directly from the linux terminal, I was looking for the console within the wallet!
Cheers

[twoturtles]

Hello Syntax I was wondering is there a way to dump the private keys from the wallet?

There is via commandline for sure.  I'll make a note to put that in the wallet interface under 'tools' though.  I'm working on rolling out some patches right now and then fixing the backup tool.  I'll get on top of that immediately though - I've been meaning to.

     Best regards,

syntaks

Can you please tell me how to get to the command line?
Yeah it would be great to have it under tools!

Cheers

type this:

neos dumpprivkey <neos address>

Oh you mean directly from the linux terminal, I was looking for the console within the wallet!
Cheers

Sorry for the confusion - yep I meant the linux terminal! =)

[xxxgoodgirls]

It would be nice, if enabled, to request also the google auth code when I input sensitive commands such as dumpprivkey.
I do really not know if you can implement that tho .

Cheers

[twoturtles]

It would be nice, if enabled, to request also the google auth code when I input sensitive commands such as dumpprivkey.
I do really not know if you can implement that tho .

Cheers

I can =)  The next release of the daemon will have a modified theft-recovery system inside of it as well as some of this functionality. 

[xxxgoodgirls]

It would be nice, if enabled, to request also the google auth code when I input sensitive commands such as dumpprivkey.
I do really not know if you can implement that tho .

Cheers

I can =)  The next release of the daemon will have a modified theft-recovery system inside of it as well as some of this functionality. 

I can't wait, you are doing a really great job sir.

[Stoyvo]

Syntaks, how do you specify a custom data directory?

[twoturtles]

Syntaks, how do you specify a custom data directory?

Right now it uses data-dir beneath the root - at the moment that's not changeable.

[BitBD]

Excellent job.

[twoturtles]

Excellent job.

Thanks a lot I appreciate that.  There's still more to do.

     Best regards,

syntaks

[xxxgoodgirls]

Hello syntax, I enabled the google auth, but, if I have not missed them, it did not showed me the backup codes in order to recover in case my mobile phone gets broken/lost.
Is there a way to recover the codes?

Cheers

[twoturtles]

Hello syntax, I enabled the google auth, but, if I have not missed them, it did not showed me the backup codes in order to recover in case my mobile phone gets broken/lost.
Is there a way to recover the codes?

Cheers

Not at the moment, but I'll include that in the tools section in the 2FA area.

     Best regards,

syntaks

[ScreamnShout]

Do we have to convert old neo?

[twoturtles]

Do we have to convert old neo?

Not at all - but the upgrade movies are on youtube and if you need a hand or want me to handle the upgrade for you myself I'm always available.

Upgrading on Windows - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QBF4uTs3M0
Upgrading on osX - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mGVQvNjmE4
Upgrading on Linux - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNbLh3YTLdQ

     Best regards,

syntaks

[Coinler]

wow just read this features and just gotta say



no really.. fantastic job and thinking my friend. i had a very similar idea but i like how youve incorporated it into your wallet. just bought some neos to test out the wallet. if i like what i see ill buy more. GJ Dev!

[twoturtles]

wow just read this features and just gotta say



no really.. fantastic job and thinking my friend. i had a very similar idea but i like how youve incorporated it into your wallet. just bought some neos to test out the wallet. if i like what i see ill buy more. GJ Dev!

Thanks a lot, there's just still much more to do yet.  Let me know if I can be of any help or there are any issues.  It's all still a work in progress and will forever be.  I can't just stop at one point and say "this is it" - there's always room for improvement.

     Best regards,

syntaks

[Coinler]

awesome. i can see you've been working!
any chance of adding pos2.0 to this baby? anonymity features?

[twoturtles]

awesome. i can see you've been working!
any chance of adding pos2.0 to this baby? anonymity features?

We just recently put the idea of PoS on the table but we want to be sure that the community is 100% for it and that it's 100% fair.  We don't want to introduce a standard model that's beneficial only to a few.  If anything, we'd look into a DPOS model and currently it's still in the community's hands whether or not they want it.  As far as anonymization, we had a great model in place which was removed (explanation can be found here: http://forum.neoscoin.com/t/neos-and-the-future/316).  We're more focused on the usability aspect and for that we just need one thing - a solid payment gateway.  The issue that comes with that is our daily volume doesn't average out currently to an acceptable minimum for most of these services so we're just waiting patiently nearby and ready to code for when that day comes.

[Coinler]

awesome. i can see you've been working!
any chance of adding pos2.0 to this baby? anonymity features?

We just recently put the idea of PoS on the table but we want to be sure that the community is 100% for it and that it's 100% fair.  We don't want to introduce a standard model that's beneficial only to a few.  If anything, we'd look into a DPOS model and currently it's still in the community's hands whether or not they want it.  As far as anonymization, we had a great model in place which was removed (explanation can be found here: http://forum.neoscoin.com/t/neos-and-the-future/316).  We're more focused on the usability aspect and for that we just need one thing - a solid payment gateway.  The issue that comes with that is our daily volume doesn't average out currently to an acceptable minimum for most of these services so we're just waiting patiently nearby and ready to code for when that day comes.

well im not very familiar with dpos but i think id be fine with any model of pos doesnt matter.. could be anything between 5-15% per annum. just to make sure the network is fast as pos does help with faster transaction speeds and confirmation times.  and well, then there is that catch22.. that if you do implement anonymity features you will attract alot more larger investors providing greater liquidity but it may not be a preferred transaction method by merchants. perhaps you could make the anonymity optional on a per transaction basis? coins like drk and xmr thrive on the demand for anonymity features. i think it is a hallmark aspect of crypto for privacy of personal holdings. i definitely share your sentiments and reasons for developing these security features. theft has hurt bitcoin value over and over and if any coin is going to compete with bitcoin and carry steady longterm growth it will have to deal with the issue of preventing theft and providing security for it's investors.

[twoturtles]

awesome. i can see you've been working!
any chance of adding pos2.0 to this baby? anonymity features?

We just recently put the idea of PoS on the table but we want to be sure that the community is 100% for it and that it's 100% fair.  We don't want to introduce a standard model that's beneficial only to a few.  If anything, we'd look into a DPOS model and currently it's still in the community's hands whether or not they want it.  As far as anonymization, we had a great model in place which was removed (explanation can be found here: http://forum.neoscoin.com/t/neos-and-the-future/316).  We're more focused on the usability aspect and for that we just need one thing - a solid payment gateway.  The issue that comes with that is our daily volume doesn't average out currently to an acceptable minimum for most of these services so we're just waiting patiently nearby and ready to code for when that day comes.

well im not very familiar with dpos but i think id be fine with any model of pos doesnt matter.. could be anything between 5-15% per annum. just to make sure the network is fast as pos does help with faster transaction speeds and confirmation times.  and well, then there is that catch22.. that if you do implement anonymity features you will attract alot more larger investors providing greater liquidity but it may not be a preferred transaction method by merchants. perhaps you could make the anonymity optional on a per transaction basis? coins like drk and xmr thrive on the demand for anonymity features. i think it is a hallmark aspect of crypto for privacy of personal holdings. i definitely share your sentiments and reasons for developing these security features. theft has hurt bitcoin value over and over and if any coin is going to compete with bitcoin and carry steady longterm growth it will have to deal with the issue of preventing theft and providing security for it's investors.

Our system was based per-transaction (it could be turned off and on, with optional logging for your own records/proof of transaction).  The system isn't destroyed, it's just decommissioned.  If in the future privacy in crypto wasn't immediately associated with illicit activities - it could be brought back into the system.

[Coinler]

awesome. i can see you've been working!
any chance of adding pos2.0 to this baby? anonymity features?

We just recently put the idea of PoS on the table but we want to be sure that the community is 100% for it and that it's 100% fair.  We don't want to introduce a standard model that's beneficial only to a few.  If anything, we'd look into a DPOS model and currently it's still in the community's hands whether or not they want it.  As far as anonymization, we had a great model in place which was removed (explanation can be found here: http://forum.neoscoin.com/t/neos-and-the-future/316).  We're more focused on the usability aspect and for that we just need one thing - a solid payment gateway.  The issue that comes with that is our daily volume doesn't average out currently to an acceptable minimum for most of these services so we're just waiting patiently nearby and ready to code for when that day comes.

well im not very familiar with dpos but i think id be fine with any model of pos doesnt matter.. could be anything between 5-15% per annum. just to make sure the network is fast as pos does help with faster transaction speeds and confirmation times.  and well, then there is that catch22.. that if you do implement anonymity features you will attract alot more larger investors providing greater liquidity but it may not be a preferred transaction method by merchants. perhaps you could make the anonymity optional on a per transaction basis? coins like drk and xmr thrive on the demand for anonymity features. i think it is a hallmark aspect of crypto for privacy of personal holdings. i definitely share your sentiments and reasons for developing these security features. theft has hurt bitcoin value over and over and if any coin is going to compete with bitcoin and carry steady longterm growth it will have to deal with the issue of preventing theft and providing security for it's investors.

Our system was based per-transaction (it could be turned off and on, with optional logging for your own records/proof of transaction).  The system isn't destroyed, it's just decommissioned.  If in the future privacy in crypto wasn't immediately associated with illicit activities - it could be brought back into the system.

i hear ya. just watching the video on your anon system and again.. it is very similar to the idea i have designed but with a few small enhancements providing greater anonymity. i suppose you can say im not afraid to provide the service that the market demands. sure anonymity may be associated with illicit activities but so is regular fiat currency as well as bitcoin. at the end of the day, im sure you could structure it in a way that allows you to assist law enforcement as an admin of the blockchain for tracking illicit activities. but as it is.. all is required i think is for the bitcoin core to adopt your technology into the wallet and who knows, that could spur on more investor confidence in bitcoin itself which may overshadow neos :\

i can see you're a great dev. but probably not the best marketing agent. as far as innovation goes this coin really should get more attention before others start copying your technology. i hope you would reconsider your stance on providing anon features. i mean at the end of the day a user could mask their system and split their transactions themselves etc. and well it doesnt matter what currency whether fiat based or crypto based. ppl will use it for illicit activities if it is convenient even without any anon features provided by the blockchain. what you want is market share and not everyone who wants anon features wants it specifically for illicit activities. to me it's just crypto at work. encryption, security and privacy. i understand your ethical pursuits however. they just may be unwarranted in a space such as cryptotrading where liquidity and high value acts to attract more investors creating higher value. but ill be looking on to see if your innovations will spur on investor support that lifts neos off the ground where it is right now. but i think u really need help in the marketing department. that would be a good start.

Coinler

[twoturtles]

awesome. i can see you've been working!
any chance of adding pos2.0 to this baby? anonymity features?

We just recently put the idea of PoS on the table but we want to be sure that the community is 100% for it and that it's 100% fair.  We don't want to introduce a standard model that's beneficial only to a few.  If anything, we'd look into a DPOS model and currently it's still in the community's hands whether or not they want it.  As far as anonymization, we had a great model in place which was removed (explanation can be found here: http://forum.neoscoin.com/t/neos-and-the-future/316).  We're more focused on the usability aspect and for that we just need one thing - a solid payment gateway.  The issue that comes with that is our daily volume doesn't average out currently to an acceptable minimum for most of these services so we're just waiting patiently nearby and ready to code for when that day comes.

well im not very familiar with dpos but i think id be fine with any model of pos doesnt matter.. could be anything between 5-15% per annum. just to make sure the network is fast as pos does help with faster transaction speeds and confirmation times.  and well, then there is that catch22.. that if you do implement anonymity features you will attract alot more larger investors providing greater liquidity but it may not be a preferred transaction method by merchants. perhaps you could make the anonymity optional on a per transaction basis? coins like drk and xmr thrive on the demand for anonymity features. i think it is a hallmark aspect of crypto for privacy of personal holdings. i definitely share your sentiments and reasons for developing these security features. theft has hurt bitcoin value over and over and if any coin is going to compete with bitcoin and carry steady longterm growth it will have to deal with the issue of preventing theft and providing security for it's investors.

Our system was based per-transaction (it could be turned off and on, with optional logging for your own records/proof of transaction).  The system isn't destroyed, it's just decommissioned.  If in the future privacy in crypto wasn't immediately associated with illicit activities - it could be brought back into the system.

i hear ya. just watching the video on your anon system and again.. it is very similar to the idea i have designed but with a few small enhancements providing greater anonymity. i suppose you can say im not afraid to provide the service that the market demands. sure anonymity may be associated with illicit activities but so is regular fiat currency as well as bitcoin. at the end of the day, im sure you could structure it in a way that allows you to assist law enforcement as an admin of the blockchain for tracking illicit activities. but as it is.. all is required i think is for the bitcoin core to adopt your technology into the wallet and who knows, that could spur on more investor confidence in bitcoin itself which may overshadow neos :\

i can see you're a great dev. but probably not the best marketing agent. as far as innovation goes this coin really should get more attention before others start copying your technology. i hope you would reconsider your stance on providing anon features. i mean at the end of the day a user could mask their system and split their transactions themselves etc. and well it doesnt matter what currency whether fiat based or crypto based. ppl will use it for illicit activities if it is convenient even without any anon features provided by the blockchain. what you want is market share and not everyone who wants anon features wants it specifically for illicit activities. to me it's just crypto at work. encryption, security and privacy. i understand your ethical pursuits however. they just may be unwarranted in a space such as cryptotrading where liquidity and high value acts to attract more investors creating higher value. but ill be looking on to see if your innovations will spur on investor support that lifts neos off the ground where it is right now. but i think u really need help in the marketing department. that would be a good start.

Coinler

Needing help in the marketing area is an understatement.  I wish you were around several months ago we could have really used your enthusiasm for sure.  I think bluntly put it's bullshit that we're completely paired with criminal activity if we want our privacy but look at the picture that's being painted in the public eye.  I was on the phone with someone the other day who isn't even technically-inclined, let alone crypto savvy and you know what their response was when I mentioned Bitcoin?  "Oh, that stuff you use to buy drugs with and they can't trace you?  I heard about that guy."  Absolutely disgusting.  We need to clean up the graffiti that's being sprayed all over the face of crypto and not feed into this trash.

[Coinler]

Needing help in the marketing area is an understatement.  I wish you were around several months ago we could have really used your enthusiasm for sure.  I think bluntly put it's bullshit that we're completely paired with criminal activity if we want our privacy but look at the picture that's being painted in the public eye.  I was on the phone with someone the other day who isn't even technically-inclined, let alone crypto savvy and you know what their response was when I mentioned Bitcoin?  "Oh, that stuff you use to buy drugs with and they can't trace you?  I heard about that guy."  Absolutely disgusting.  We need to clean up the graffiti that's being sprayed all over the face of crypto and not feed into this trash.

well look at that. ive heard those same responses before. bitcoin is stained in that regard because of the ignorance of the masses anyway and as a result so is all of crypto for the meantime. the way i see it you might as well provide the service that the majority of crypto enthusiasts go for and that will increase the value of your commodity substantially. i mean look at crave.. or even zirk about to shoot off with bare tor anonymity. sure i think you can gain some market share with these innovations. because users will surely value theft recovery and that decoy system is a total win. i had thought of it for exchanges to implement to secure their wallets back on coinex.pw. i mean anything is possible. ur trading at 2000 satoshi now, but by grabbing at greater market share that wont matter. right now id say neos is leading the pack in security with these implementations. but crypto has made it clear where they want to place large amounts of investment. and that sets the difference between trading at 2k to 50k and falling back down.. or trading at .002 - .02btc and holding stable trading value even with 20million coins. just look at litecoin.. dying. and that is something i predicted when i saw the market response to anon-tx cryptos. so just think how glad i am i sold every ounce of my litecoins at .017 before it just started flopping.

crypto enthusiasts definitely like innovative technologies, and with your talent it will be a matter of time i guess as people slowly notice your devotion and skills. but im sure that we will see some organic growth and maybe even some speculation on the market as time goes by. but the way i see it, you want to add as many technologies as possible that appeal to each investor's different type of fancy in a coin. thereby grabbing at more market share. your concern is trading value which in itself is a marketing tool. and of course can provide you with more encouragement and satisfaction from the work you do here. but i guess we can wait and see what your developments do for the market without anon implementations. i guess personally id take a different approach. a bird in the hand is better than a bird in the bush. id provide what the market has already shown great interest in and let the bystanders watch as value grows exponentially until they cant take it any more and buy in. maybe it is a bit force-handed strategy. but non-crypt enthusiasts i think are the last people you want to take opinions from when you could gain possibly $1million+ dollar market cap with the investors already in crypto.

and for the record. based on the work i see ur doing. the premine is not an issue for me and i hope it wont be for anyone else. this is premium grade coding imo. and you deserve to be rewarded for your work. but just think about the market appeal with the services and technologies you already have with the added investment of those interested in special markets like POS and Anon-tx investors. i mean, that would put you in a very strong position above almost all other altcoins having carried both their technologies AND your major innovations. i hardly if ever invest in non-POS coins. this one was a first in a looong time. and i dont regret my decision either way. and i hope i dont sound like im trying to "bring you over to the dark side" lol. but from a marketing perspective, these are the markets i know that are already available to grab at. and thats one of the major rules of marketing and creating services. knowing where to find investors that want the service you will provide even before development. having an idea of how much value that market could bring to your network and determining if it is feasible based on that. so that's why i recommend these 2 options to add to your current network. because i already know the investors are there and waiting for those implementations making it a quicker route to larger market capitalization.

at the end of the day though, i could be wrong. just going on my experience and knowledge of these markets. it could well be that neos will do well even without anon or POS. but the enthusiasm expressed by crypto-investors for these technologies has been very clear. and will without a doubt, increase your community exponentially and provided greater marketing opportunity to get the word out about Neos. ill try to put together something and pm you about how we can approach marketing neos and building an economic model that investors will be interested in being a part of making neos a strong contender for merchant acceptance. the 2000 satoshi price point doesnt really matter. that can easily and with the right strategy become 10x or 100x more and with time even more. but these technologies you;ve provided i already knew were in demand. even if crypto enthusiasts themselves didnt know it yet. i was really surprised to see them all here and its like noone knew about it. i was a bit shocked to read the op and discover all these things implemented in neos and i didnt know about it until today.

give me a day or 2 and we'll see if we can tackle a marketing strategy and get some article writers on board. some translators for neos to reach various countries, more exchanges.. and of course.. direct neos usd trading. they would have to be the starting points but i think youve really got a good head on your shoulders and a well developed commodity that the crypto community can get behind.

Coinler

[BitBD]

Needing help in the marketing area is an understatement.  I wish you were around several months ago we could have really used your enthusiasm for sure.  I think bluntly put it's bullshit that we're completely paired with criminal activity if we want our privacy but look at the picture that's being painted in the public eye.  I was on the phone with someone the other day who isn't even technically-inclined, let alone crypto savvy and you know what their response was when I mentioned Bitcoin?  "Oh, that stuff you use to buy drugs with and they can't trace you?  I heard about that guy."  Absolutely disgusting.  We need to clean up the graffiti that's being sprayed all over the face of crypto and not feed into this trash.

well look at that. ive heard those same responses before. bitcoin is stained in that regard because of the ignorance of the masses anyway and as a result so is all of crypto for the meantime. the way i see it you might as well provide the service that the majority of crypto enthusiasts go for and that will increase the value of your commodity substantially. i mean look at crave.. or even zirk about to shoot off with bare tor anonymity. sure i think you can gain some market share with these innovations. because users will surely value theft recovery and that decoy system is a total win. i had thought of it for exchanges to implement to secure their wallets back on coinex.pw. i mean anything is possible. ur trading at 2000 satoshi now, but by grabbing at greater market share that wont matter. right now id say neos is leading the pack in security with these implementations. but crypto has made it clear where they want to place large amounts of investment. and that sets the difference between trading at 2k to 50k and falling back down.. or trading at .002 - .02btc and holding stable trading value even with 20million coins. just look at litecoin.. dying. and that is something i predicted when i saw the market response to anon-tx cryptos. so just think how glad i am i sold every ounce of my litecoins at .017 before it just started flopping.

crypto enthusiasts definitely like innovative technologies, and with your talent it will be a matter of time i guess as people slowly notice your devotion and skills. but im sure that we will see some organic growth and maybe even some speculation on the market as time goes by. but the way i see it, you want to add as many technologies as possible that appeal to each investor's different type of fancy in a coin. thereby grabbing at more market share. your concern is trading value which in itself is a marketing tool. and of course can provide you with more encouragement and satisfaction from the work you do here. but i guess we can wait and see what your developments do for the market without anon implementations. i guess personally id take a different approach. a bird in the hand is better than a bird in the bush. id provide what the market has already shown great interest in and let the bystanders watch as value grows exponentially until they cant take it any more and buy in. maybe it is a bit force-handed strategy. but non-crypt enthusiasts i think are the last people you want to take opinions from when you could gain possibly $1million+ dollar market cap with the investors already in crypto.

and for the record. based on the work i see ur doing. the premine is not an issue for me and i hope it wont be for anyone else. this is premium grade coding imo. and you deserve to be rewarded for your work. but just think about the market appeal with the services and technologies you already have with the added investment of those interested in special markets like POS and Anon-tx investors. i mean, that would put you in a very strong position above almost all other altcoins having carried both their technologies AND your major innovations. i hardly if ever invest in non-POS coins. this one was a first in a looong time. and i dont regret my decision either way. and i hope i dont sound like im trying to "bring you over to the dark side" lol. but from a marketing perspective, these are the markets i know that are already available to grab at. and thats one of the major rules of marketing and creating services. knowing where to find investors that want the service you will provide even before development. having an idea of how much value that market could bring to your network and determining if it is feasible based on that. so that's why i recommend these 2 options to add to your current network. because i already know the investors are there and waiting for those implementations making it a quicker route to larger market capitalization.

at the end of the day though, i could be wrong. just going on my experience and knowledge of these markets. it could well be that neos will do well even without anon or POS. but the enthusiasm expressed by crypto-investors for these technologies has been very clear. and will without a doubt, increase your community exponentially and provided greater marketing opportunity to get the word out about Neos. ill try to put together something and pm you about how we can approach marketing neos and building an economic model that investors will be interested in being a part of making neos a strong contender for merchant acceptance. the 2000 satoshi price point doesnt really matter. that can easily and with the right strategy become 10x or 100x more and with time even more. but these technologies you;ve provided i already knew were in demand. even if crypto enthusiasts themselves didnt know it yet. i was really surprised to see them all here and its like noone knew about it. i was a bit shocked to read the op and discover all these things implemented in neos and i didnt know about it until today.

give me a day or 2 and we'll see if we can tackle a marketing strategy and get some article writers on board. some translators for neos to reach various countries, more exchanges.. and of course.. direct neos usd trading. they would have to be the starting points but i think youve really got a good head on your shoulders and a well developed commodity that the crypto community can get behind.

Coinler

I am totally agreed with you about one major concern, thief or fraud protection. If these technologies implement on NEOS, this will be great.

[twoturtles]

Needing help in the marketing area is an understatement.  I wish you were around several months ago we could have really used your enthusiasm for sure.  I think bluntly put it's bullshit that we're completely paired with criminal activity if we want our privacy but look at the picture that's being painted in the public eye.  I was on the phone with someone the other day who isn't even technically-inclined, let alone crypto savvy and you know what their response was when I mentioned Bitcoin?  "Oh, that stuff you use to buy drugs with and they can't trace you?  I heard about that guy."  Absolutely disgusting.  We need to clean up the graffiti that's being sprayed all over the face of crypto and not feed into this trash.

well look at that. ive heard those same responses before. bitcoin is stained in that regard because of the ignorance of the masses anyway and as a result so is all of crypto for the meantime. the way i see it you might as well provide the service that the majority of crypto enthusiasts go for and that will increase the value of your commodity substantially. i mean look at crave.. or even zirk about to shoot off with bare tor anonymity. sure i think you can gain some market share with these innovations. because users will surely value theft recovery and that decoy system is a total win. i had thought of it for exchanges to implement to secure their wallets back on coinex.pw. i mean anything is possible. ur trading at 2000 satoshi now, but by grabbing at greater market share that wont matter. right now id say neos is leading the pack in security with these implementations. but crypto has made it clear where they want to place large amounts of investment. and that sets the difference between trading at 2k to 50k and falling back down.. or trading at .002 - .02btc and holding stable trading value even with 20million coins. just look at litecoin.. dying. and that is something i predicted when i saw the market response to anon-tx cryptos. so just think how glad i am i sold every ounce of my litecoins at .017 before it just started flopping.

crypto enthusiasts definitely like innovative technologies, and with your talent it will be a matter of time i guess as people slowly notice your devotion and skills. but im sure that we will see some organic growth and maybe even some speculation on the market as time goes by. but the way i see it, you want to add as many technologies as possible that appeal to each investor's different type of fancy in a coin. thereby grabbing at more market share. your concern is trading value which in itself is a marketing tool. and of course can provide you with more encouragement and satisfaction from the work you do here. but i guess we can wait and see what your developments do for the market without anon implementations. i guess personally id take a different approach. a bird in the hand is better than a bird in the bush. id provide what the market has already shown great interest in and let the bystanders watch as value grows exponentially until they cant take it any more and buy in. maybe it is a bit force-handed strategy. but non-crypt enthusiasts i think are the last people you want to take opinions from when you could gain possibly $1million+ dollar market cap with the investors already in crypto.

and for the record. based on the work i see ur doing. the premine is not an issue for me and i hope it wont be for anyone else. this is premium grade coding imo. and you deserve to be rewarded for your work. but just think about the market appeal with the services and technologies you already have with the added investment of those interested in special markets like POS and Anon-tx investors. i mean, that would put you in a very strong position above almost all other altcoins having carried both their technologies AND your major innovations. i hardly if ever invest in non-POS coins. this one was a first in a looong time. and i dont regret my decision either way. and i hope i dont sound like im trying to "bring you over to the dark side" lol. but from a marketing perspective, these are the markets i know that are already available to grab at. and thats one of the major rules of marketing and creating services. knowing where to find investors that want the service you will provide even before development. having an idea of how much value that market could bring to your network and determining if it is feasible based on that. so that's why i recommend these 2 options to add to your current network. because i already know the investors are there and waiting for those implementations making it a quicker route to larger market capitalization.

at the end of the day though, i could be wrong. just going on my experience and knowledge of these markets. it could well be that neos will do well even without anon or POS. but the enthusiasm expressed by crypto-investors for these technologies has been very clear. and will without a doubt, increase your community exponentially and provided greater marketing opportunity to get the word out about Neos. ill try to put together something and pm you about how we can approach marketing neos and building an economic model that investors will be interested in being a part of making neos a strong contender for merchant acceptance. the 2000 satoshi price point doesnt really matter. that can easily and with the right strategy become 10x or 100x more and with time even more. but these technologies you;ve provided i already knew were in demand. even if crypto enthusiasts themselves didnt know it yet. i was really surprised to see them all here and its like noone knew about it. i was a bit shocked to read the op and discover all these things implemented in neos and i didnt know about it until today.

give me a day or 2 and we'll see if we can tackle a marketing strategy and get some article writers on board. some translators for neos to reach various countries, more exchanges.. and of course.. direct neos usd trading. they would have to be the starting points but i think youve really got a good head on your shoulders and a well developed commodity that the crypto community can get behind.

Coinler

Feel free to contact me any time.  It sounds like you have a lot of great ideas for marketing and gaining new audiences and that's definitely something we need.  We've built a really strong, organic community over the past 7 months now and typically it consists of people who hadn't heard of Neos but tried it and became part of the community after.  It's rough right now getting accepted on platforms such as ShapeShift just due to lack of liquidity.  However, if we increased our reach and introduced Neos to some new people I think we could have a fighting chance.  From there it would just be a matter of coding the bridge and believe me - it would be done in the best possible manner.  I've been wanting to do this for months now but due to aforementioned reasons have been unable.  I'm excited for when the day comes though to say the least.

     Best regards,

syntaks

[twoturtles]

I am totally agreed with you about one major concern, thief or fraud protection. If these technologies implement on NEOS, this will be great.

Theft recovery and deterrents are active and working in Neos right now.  The community feedback so far on the concept has been great - so the release date of the final daemon and fork date will be announced as soon as we determine when that is.  Most likely within the next several weeks.  While we've had positive feedback - I want as much of a diverse perspective as possible on this before it's set in stone.  Once I port in the rest of the system's code and prevention methods in, it will be final.

     Best regards,

syntaks

[tempus]

Some more votes for Neos please: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1000833.0;topicseen

[twoturtles]

Linux Neos launcher updates: http://forum.neoscoin.com/t/neos-launchers-updated-for-linux-3-26-15/393

[HKBvM]

I have read the last couple of posts, I will add some of my thoughts plus a couple of questions to syntax.

Questions first:

a)


"Each installation is unique to itself.  Your wallet files aren't transferrable to another Neos install.  This prevents someone for example from replacing your files with modified wallet files to gain access or corrupt it."

So if I want to have my wallet on both my desktop and my laptop, how do I do that. Usually I just copied the wallet.dat, but if I understand correctly that is not possible anymore?

b) 2fa

Someone earlier wrote that he didnt see the recovery codes. I didnt try myself, but I assume I dont have access to my coins if I have 2fa enabled and lose my phone. Any way to recover in that case, if not adding the recovery codes should be done asap

c) neos kratos sounds like something finally usefull, usually crypto produces alot of flashy things no one actually will ever use. I will have to think about that before commenting.

Genrally, great work syntax. Also I like that you are active and helpfull, you seem to enjoy what you are doing, which is great. A big exception for crypto. Reagrding the idea with POS, the network security should always be the most important thing. Changing the fundamentals of a coin is something that should never be done carelessly. However cryprto is evolving and if there are new, maybe better ways to run the network a change can be a good decision. After all crypto is still very young and far from anything mainstream when it will be a far bigger deal to change fundamental things, as we can alreadly see with Bitcoin.

I also like your focus on usage of the coin, not another anonymity nonsense, that no one needs. I am not saying there is no market for that, but it is only valuable to a fraction of people in the "real world". I am probably a bit older and for sure far more conservative leaning than the average crpto user and especially those active here. Whenever I talk to people (mostly middle aged business-people) they like the idea of fast, secure and nearly free transactions all over the world. Basically no one ever asked for anonymous sending, many even see it as something that will hold cryptos back due to the obvious utility for black markets (oc cash has filled that role nicely for now).  

I will test the wallet and its functions over the next days and give you some feedback. One minor bug is that when you send coins, it automatically shows the value in BTC but the calcualtion seems to not recognize decimals, e.g. 10000,01 will be calcualted as 1000000.

  

[xxxgoodgirls]

I have read the last couple of posts, I will add some of my thoughts plus a couple of questions to syntax.

Questions first:

a)


"Each installation is unique to itself.  Your wallet files aren't transferrable to another Neos install.  This prevents someone for example from replacing your files with modified wallet files to gain access or corrupt it."

So if I want to have my wallet on both my desktop and my laptop, how do I do that. Usually I just copied the wallet.dat, but if I understand correctly that is not possible anymore?

You can just save the private keys through dumpprivkey <address> of your adresses and then import them through importprivkey <key> on your other machine.

[twoturtles]

I have read the last couple of posts, I will add some of my thoughts plus a couple of questions to syntax.

Questions first:

a)


"Each installation is unique to itself.  Your wallet files aren't transferrable to another Neos install.  This prevents someone for example from replacing your files with modified wallet files to gain access or corrupt it."

So if I want to have my wallet on both my desktop and my laptop, how do I do that. Usually I just copied the wallet.dat, but if I understand correctly that is not possible anymore?

b) 2fa

Someone earlier wrote that he didnt see the recovery codes. I didnt try myself, but I assume I dont have access to my coins if I have 2fa enabled and lose my phone. Any way to recover in that case, if not adding the recovery codes should be done asap

c) neos kratos sounds like something finally usefull, usually crypto produces alot of flashy things no one actually will ever use. I will have to think about that before commenting.

Genrally, great work syntax. Also I like that you are active and helpfull, you seem to enjoy what you are doing, which is great. A big exception for crypto. Reagrding the idea with POS, the network security should always be the most important thing. Changing the fundamentals of a coin is something that should never be done carelessly. However cryprto is evolving and if there are new, maybe better ways to run the network a change can be a good decision. After all crypto is still very young and far from anything mainstream when it will be a far bigger deal to change fundamental things, as we can alreadly see with Bitcoin.

I also like your focus on usage of the coin, not another anonymity nonsense, that no one needs. I am not saying there is no market for that, but it is only valuable to a fraction of people in the "real world". I am probably a bit older and for sure far more conservative leaning than the average crpto user and especially those active here. Whenever I talk to people (mostly middle aged business-people) they like the idea of fast, secure and nearly free transactions all over the world. Basically no one ever asked for anonymous sending, many even see it as something that will hold cryptos back due to the obvious utility for black markets (oc cash has filled that role nicely for now).  

I will test the wallet and its functions over the next days and give you some feedback. One minor bug is that when you send coins, it automatically shows the value in BTC but the calcualtion seems to not recognize decimals, e.g. 10000,01 will be calcualted as 1000000.

  

Thanks a lot for the feedback.  I'll tackle your questions first and then comment.

a) You can load your wallet.dat on another machine, however, it will flag the anti-theft system and each time you load that wallet, if you've set a notification e-mail, it will e-mail your wallet back to you.  You could copy the entire Neos directory over in terms of wallet files, but you wouldn't be able to mix another installation's files with it.  This prevents for example someone taking their config file and dropping it into your installation in attempt to circumvent the system.

b) 2fa isn't tied directly into the daemon as of yet but recovery codes are something I've put on the priority list as of the other day when another person requested it (I believe it was xxxgoodgirls).  If you were to lose your phone, you would contact support (me) with the pin you set in your wallet settings that validates your claim to ownership of that wallet and we could reset it for you.

c) I love Greek mythology

Our focus really is just trying to remain a sustainable, reliable and honest presence with constant progress.  I do love what I'm doing, which makes it that much easier to wake up at 4am and keep at it until 1am. =)  In my opinion, it's not about being perfect all of the time, it's about how you handle imperfections.  If given the proper attention and appropriate care, nothing is impossible.  The calculation with commas and decimals is also on my list of bugs to fix.  Within roughly an hour I'll be releasing a big update which is required and then following that other reported bugs/quirks with have my full attention.  We had an anonymous system in place that worked *really* well, but in the interest of longevity we removed it.  Noone was using it either.  It was basically sitting there just waiting to be scrutinized by the powers that be and it's just not the attention we want or the reason we're here.  As you stated, there are other projects for that purpose and I leave that attention to them.

We will never haphazardly change the network or parameters, especially not without the community behind the changes and without their feedback on the topic.  Feel free to contact me with any questions or issues I'm always here.

     Best regards,

syntaks

[twoturtles]

I've just posted an important update thread with instructions at http://forum.neoscoin.com/t/required-update-for-2-1-all-systems-ssl-cve-2015-0291-and-others/394 All current users please read and if you need help or have any questions don't hesitate to contact me.  All installation packages have been updated.

     Best regards,

syntaks

[Vlizzjeffrey]

thats what u call an active dev, im buying more and more neos since ive started to do so

[twoturtles]

thats what u call an active dev, im buying more and more neos since ive started to do so

Thanks a lot.  There seem to be a few quirks with Windows 8/Windows 10 users inconsistently but I think I've narrowed the issue down and I'm just waiting for a few folks to test with to verify.  So if anyone experiences any post-install quirks, please let me know.

     Best regards,

syntaks

[twoturtles]

CoinTelegraph.uk just published a great write-up about 2.1 with a really cool sketch (I love their sketches): http://cointelegraph.uk/news/113808/neoscoin-version-21-update-released-security-features-like-no-other-coin

[xxxgoodgirls]

CoinTelegraph.uk just published a great write-up about 2.1 with a really cool sketch (I love their sketches): http://cointelegraph.uk/news/113808/neoscoin-version-21-update-released-security-features-like-no-other-coin

Omg, a case of Neos marketing!
Quick, dial 911!

[dadon]

This coin is beautiful with limitless potentiol that's why i bought 200k, love the features can see Neos sitting up there in the top 5 one day right along side my beloved shadow, shadow will be top anonymous focused crypto, Neos the top security based crypto that's just my vision anyway.

[tempus]

CoinTelegraph.uk just published a great write-up about 2.1 with a really cool sketch (I love their sketches): http://cointelegraph.uk/news/113808/neoscoin-version-21-update-released-security-features-like-no-other-coin

That's really a great article! In Germany we would say: Trifft den Nagel auf den Kopf! :-)

[twoturtles]

CoinTelegraph.uk just published a great write-up about 2.1 with a really cool sketch (I love their sketches): http://cointelegraph.uk/news/113808/neoscoin-version-21-update-released-security-features-like-no-other-coin

Omg, a case of Neos marketing!
Quick, dial 911!

=)

[twoturtles]

This coin is beautiful with limitless potentiol that's why i bought 200k, love the features can see Neos sitting up there in the top 5 one day right along side my beloved shadow, shadow will be top anonymous focused crypto, Neos the top security based crypto that's just my vision anyway.

Thanks a lot for the support.  There's still much more to do and always room for improvement; that's why we never stop.  If you have any questions or need anything feel free to contact me at any time.

     Best regards,

syntaks

[dadon]

No problem mate your work speaks for it's self, there is only a handful of crypto's that have developers like yourself i will be holding LT here mark my words.

[joetothphoto]

Just would like to ask the community to take a look at: https://gourl.io/voting-neos.html

Consider voting and getting NEOS to the top of the list for the 15th April cutoff. And if you don't realise how important this is, stop by the IRC and chat with the team.

0.1 BTC would help loads. Hell, even 0.01 would do wonders in voting.

I know we all want to see NEOS succeed, so lets get behind it!

[tempus]

Just would like to ask the community to take a look at: https://gourl.io/voting-neos.html

Consider voting and getting NEOS to the top of the list for the 15th April cutoff. And if you don't realise how important this is, stop by the IRC and chat with the team.

0.1 BTC would help loads. Hell, even 0.01 would do wonders in voting.

I know we all want to see NEOS succeed, so lets get behind it!

Yes, would be great! Whoever would consider to donate and wants to know why this would be a huge step for Neos, can also read this:

Let’s get Neos on GoUrl
http://community.neoscoin.com/t/lets-get-neos-on-gourl/396


Neos is already on the third place, so we have chances!

[Cornett]

Night mode in wallet is coming   Cool 

[twoturtles]

Night mode in wallet is coming   Cool 

I told you I wouldn't forget =).  I'm no designer and I don't want to just approach it and invert the colors without paying particular care to other details.  I want it to look good.  I'll find/hire someone.

     Best regards,

syntaks

[twoturtles]

New beta feature added in - http://forum.neoscoin.com/t/new-beta-feature-added-keyboardless-entry-virtual-keybard/401

Once we have some feedback/use of the new feature - we'll apply it to all sensitive areas where typing used to be the method of entry.

     Best regards,

syntaks

[xxxgoodgirls]

New beta feature added in - http://forum.neoscoin.com/t/new-beta-feature-added-keyboardless-entry-virtual-keybard/401

Once we have some feedback/use of the new feature - we'll apply it to all sensitive areas where typing used to be the method of entry.

     Best regards,

syntaks

Awesome improvement, it would be nice if you somehow add a "paste from clipboard" button (not everyone knows of ctrl+v) cause someone might use a long string password picked up from a pass manager.

edit: oh, it just invalidates the point of having a virtual keyboard lol

[twoturtles]

New beta feature added in - http://forum.neoscoin.com/t/new-beta-feature-added-keyboardless-entry-virtual-keybard/401

Once we have some feedback/use of the new feature - we'll apply it to all sensitive areas where typing used to be the method of entry.

     Best regards,

syntaks

Awesome improvement, it would be nice if you somehow add a "paste from clipboard" button (not everyone knows of ctrl+v) cause someone might use a long string password picked up from a pass manager.

edit: oh, it just invalidates the point of having a virtual keyboard lol

=) I actually intentionally disabled pasting in any data.

[Cornett]

Night mode in wallet is coming   Cool  

I told you I wouldn't forget =).  I'm no designer and I don't want to just approach it and invert the colors without paying particular care to other details.  I want it to look good.  I'll find/hire someone.

     Best regards,

syntaks

Thank you for all your efforts.

Also would be excellent to hire a pro designer for the OP here. To turn this thread to beauty. This place should look in style of Neos website

[xxxgoodgirls]

Night mode in wallet is coming   Cool  

I told you I wouldn't forget =).  I'm no designer and I don't want to just approach it and invert the colors without paying particular care to other details.  I want it to look good.  I'll find/hire someone.

     Best regards,

syntaks

Thank you for all your efforts.

Also would be excellent to hire a pro designer for the OP here. To turn this thread to beauty. This place should look in style of Neos website

Someone should post some screenshot of the wallet as well. A pure gem of design.

[TrackCoin]

This is such an Interesting work...very nice future can be...

[racer2012]

Bought some neos at bittrex
And downloaded windows v2.1 wallet
I am getting error
This program is not commonly downloaded and could harm your computer
Any helped??

[PaidFudder]

no

[tempus]

Bought some neos at bittrex
And downloaded windows v2.1 wallet
I am getting error
This program is not commonly downloaded and could harm your computer
Any helped??

I pm'd Syntaks in the IRC. As soon as he is back he will help you.

If you want, come to the IRC... maybe somebody else can help:
https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/#neoscoin

[twoturtles]

Bought some neos at bittrex
And downloaded windows v2.1 wallet
I am getting error
This program is not commonly downloaded and could harm your computer
Any helped??

Hey racer,

     Which filename does it specify?  None of ours are harmful, but in the event somehow a 3rd party slipped in a different file I'd like to verify the filename.  Most wallets in crypto will set off false positives due to the fact that they're not signed and a few other possible factors.

     Best regards,

syntaks

[sgk]

An old time NEOS supporter here.

Nice to see all these security features coming together. I will try to upgrade (I'm on Windows 8.1) and see how it goes. If I need any help, I know syntaks is always there 

[twoturtles]

An old time NEOS supporter here.

Nice to see all these security features coming together. I will try to upgrade (I'm on Windows 8.1) and see how it goes. If I need any help, I know syntaks is always there 

Hey sgk =)

     I'm glad to see you're still around.  I hope all is well.  Let me know what you think of 2.1 and if you need a hand with anything.

     Best regards,

syntaks

[joetothphoto]

Don't forget to buy some raffle tickets for the NEOS Raffle for GoUrl Votes.

Neoscoin Raffle for GoUrl !
10k Neos Total
1st place : 5000 Neos (~0.11 BTC)
2nd place : 3500 Neos (~0.077 BTC)
3rd place : 1500 Neos (~0.033 BTC)

1ECQ223ho29J3cREnrviL25bcufhcfc9jc

0.001 BTC per ticket
All proceeds will be going directly towards the GoUrl Voting!
Minimum 23 tickets for the draw to happen ! Draw ends April 14th.
After voting please contact AJ@Neoscoin.com with your transaction ID and Neos Address.
If the minimum amount is not met then all proceeds will be refunded.

http://community.neoscoin.com/t/neoscoin-raffle/408

[sgk]

Don't forget to buy some raffle tickets for the NEOS Raffle for GoUrl Votes.

Neoscoin Raffle for GoUrl !
10k Neos Total
1st place : 5000 Neos (~0.11 BTC)
2nd place : 3500 Neos (~0.077 BTC)
3rd place : 1500 Neos (~0.033 BTC)

1ECQ223ho29J3cREnrviL25bcufhcfc9jc

0.001 BTC per ticket
All proceeds will be going directly towards the GoUrl Voting!
Minimum 23 tickets for the draw to happen ! Draw ends April 14th.
After voting please contact AJ@Neoscoin.com with your transaction ID and Neos Address.
If the minimum amount is not met then all proceeds will be refunded.

http://community.neoscoin.com/t/neoscoin-raffle/408

So if I send 0.01 BTC, do I get 10 tickets?

[twoturtles]

Don't forget to buy some raffle tickets for the NEOS Raffle for GoUrl Votes.

Neoscoin Raffle for GoUrl !
10k Neos Total
1st place : 5000 Neos (~0.11 BTC)
2nd place : 3500 Neos (~0.077 BTC)
3rd place : 1500 Neos (~0.033 BTC)

1ECQ223ho29J3cREnrviL25bcufhcfc9jc

0.001 BTC per ticket
All proceeds will be going directly towards the GoUrl Voting!
Minimum 23 tickets for the draw to happen ! Draw ends April 14th.
After voting please contact AJ@Neoscoin.com with your transaction ID and Neos Address.
If the minimum amount is not met then all proceeds will be refunded.

http://community.neoscoin.com/t/neoscoin-raffle/408

So if I send 0.01 BTC, do I get 10 tickets?

Yep that's how it's working.  The more tickets, the better the chance.

[twoturtles]

By the way, how did the upgrade go?

[tempus]

Don't forget to buy some raffle tickets for the NEOS Raffle for GoUrl Votes.

Neoscoin Raffle for GoUrl !
10k Neos Total
1st place : 5000 Neos (~0.11 BTC)
2nd place : 3500 Neos (~0.077 BTC)
3rd place : 1500 Neos (~0.033 BTC)

1ECQ223ho29J3cREnrviL25bcufhcfc9jc

0.001 BTC per ticket
All proceeds will be going directly towards the GoUrl Voting!
Minimum 23 tickets for the draw to happen ! Draw ends April 14th.
After voting please contact AJ@Neoscoin.com with your transaction ID and Neos Address.
If the minimum amount is not met then all proceeds will be refunded.

http://community.neoscoin.com/t/neoscoin-raffle/408

Great Idea! Just send 0.01 BTC. I will win! ;-)

[sgk]

By the way, how did the upgrade go?

Planning to do it tonight.
Is there anything specific I need to keep in mind, or I just download the latest installer and run it?

[twoturtles]

By the way, how did the upgrade go?

Planning to do it tonight.
Is there anything specific I need to keep in mind, or I just download the latest installer and run it?

That about sums it up unless you're migrating an older existing wallet into it.

[patrickmh]

where can you mining this coin?

[twoturtles]

where can you mining this coin?

Hey Patrick,

     http://neos-sha.kickasspools.net for one, also SHA/script/X11 at http://mp.neoscoin.com Let me know if you have any other questions.

     Best regards,

syntaks

[sgk]

By the way, how did the upgrade go?

Planning to do it tonight.
Is there anything specific I need to keep in mind, or I just download the latest installer and run it?

That about sums it up unless you're migrating an older existing wallet into it.

OK, so I installed latest version 2.1
It installed itself in new folder called NEOS 2.1, leaving the old NEOS folder as it is.

If I want to transfer funds from old wallet to new one, what would be the best method? Exporting/Importing private keys?

[twoturtles]

By the way, how did the upgrade go?

Planning to do it tonight.
Is there anything specific I need to keep in mind, or I just download the latest installer and run it?

That about sums it up unless you're migrating an older existing wallet into it.

OK, so I installed latest version 2.1
It installed itself in new folder called NEOS 2.1, leaving the old NEOS folder as it is.

If I want to transfer funds from old wallet to new one, what would be the best method? Exporting/Importing private keys?

Click "Stop Neos" on the launcher, copy wallet.dat from the old Neos install directory to the new one, click "Start Neos" - you should be good to go.  Let me know if not though and we'll take care of it. =)

     Best regards,

syntaks

[lucasjkr]

Each installation is unique to itself.  Your wallet files aren't transferrable to another Neos install.  This prevents someone for example from replacing your files with modified wallet files to gain access or corrupt it.

So I can't just backup my datafilee and move them to a new computer?!

IF an attacker is in the position of being able to copy the wallet.dat, they're also in a position to do nearly anything else, key logger, etc, and will therefore be able to walk away with those coins anyways...

[twoturtles]

Each installation is unique to itself.  Your wallet files aren't transferrable to another Neos install.  This prevents someone for example from replacing your files with modified wallet files to gain access or corrupt it.

So I can't just backup my datafilee and move them to a new computer?!

IF an attacker is in the position of being able to copy the wallet.dat, they're also in a position to do nearly anything else, key logger, etc, and will therefore be able to walk away with those coins anyways...

You're absolutely right - which is why we also included a virtual keyboard in effort to mitigate that possibility.  If the attacker however is at your machine locally for example and has your passphrase, then of course they can send the coins out.  If someone is physically sitting at your computer and able to cause harm - you have bigger issues than someone stealing your wallet.dat or coins.  However, in the event they just steal the device and start the wallet, it will mail the owner the wallet back and report the information to them via email.

     Best regards,

syntaks

[sgk]

By the way, how did the upgrade go?

Planning to do it tonight.
Is there anything specific I need to keep in mind, or I just download the latest installer and run it?

That about sums it up unless you're migrating an older existing wallet into it.

OK, so I installed latest version 2.1
It installed itself in new folder called NEOS 2.1, leaving the old NEOS folder as it is.

If I want to transfer funds from old wallet to new one, what would be the best method? Exporting/Importing private keys?

Click "Stop Neos" on the launcher, copy wallet.dat from the old Neos install directory to the new one, click "Start Neos" - you should be good to go.  Let me know if not though and we'll take care of it. =)

     Best regards,

syntaks

Thanks, I was able to do it.

I know replacing the wallet file works with standard cryptos, I was just paranoid after reading all these new security features in version 2.1 
I wasn't sure if it would allow me to replace old wallet with new version   

[dadon]

https://www.thunderclap.it/casestudies this would be cool for NEOS

[sgk]

Don't forget to buy some raffle tickets for the NEOS Raffle for GoUrl Votes.

Neoscoin Raffle for GoUrl !
10k Neos Total
1st place : 5000 Neos (~0.11 BTC)
2nd place : 3500 Neos (~0.077 BTC)
3rd place : 1500 Neos (~0.033 BTC)

1ECQ223ho29J3cREnrviL25bcufhcfc9jc

0.001 BTC per ticket
All proceeds will be going directly towards the GoUrl Voting!
Minimum 23 tickets for the draw to happen ! Draw ends April 14th.
After voting please contact AJ@Neoscoin.com with your transaction ID and Neos Address.
If the minimum amount is not met then all proceeds will be refunded.

http://community.neoscoin.com/t/neoscoin-raffle/408

So if I send 0.01 BTC, do I get 10 tickets?

Yep that's how it's working.  The more tickets, the better the chance.

Great! I just took part in the raffle. Hoping to win some NEOS 

And good luck with GoUrl. This is a great idea.

[dadon]

https://www.thunderclap.it/pricing the pro option looks good i would be willing to help pay for this if anybody else is interested in helping, could really bring in some fresh investors.

[tempus]

Neos will be on the Bitcoin-Rush-Show today! (3pm PST)

http://youtube.com/bitcoinrush  
https://twitter.com/Bitcoin_Rush/status/586388671437209600

[tempus]

And here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD4PsCaJ23c

Really awesome!

[Jonesd]

Is this the most current thread?

[tempus]

Is this the most current thread?

Yes!

[Jonesd]

Is this the most current thread?

Yes!

Got kinda lost in the multitude of all these consecutive threads :-)

[innergy]

The net hashrate rises..  
This might be the new opportunity for all these old ASICs..

[twoturtles]

Hey folks,

     The winners of our drawing have been posted: http://forum.neoscoin.com/t/neoscoin-raffle/408/8 Congratulations to everyone that won and a sincere thank you to everyone that participated.

     Best regards,

syntaks

[sgk]

Hey folks,

     The winners of our drawing have been posted: http://forum.neoscoin.com/t/neoscoin-raffle/408/8 Congratulations to everyone that won and a sincere thank you to everyone that participated.

     Best regards,

syntaks

Thanks!  It was good to be part of this; it was a great idea!

[tempus]

Nice buying on Bittrex... Volume around 12 BTC in a short time.

[Jonesd]

Nice buying on Bittrex... Volume around 12 BTC in a short time.

I sold some CANN at 4000 to invest in this coin and this seems to be a really good investment up until now. A dedicated developer and genuinely something innovative, must make it peanuts to grow to the top 100 of coinmarketcap. I would not be surprised if we get there within two months by tripling the value. Once more people know the coin, it should be possible to reach a value of around 20k, getting in the top 50 of coins.

For now, I'll just wait and see

[tempus]

Nice buying on Bittrex... Volume around 12 BTC in a short time.

I sold some CANN at 4000 to invest in this coin and this seems to be a really good investment up until now. A dedicated developer and genuinely something innovative, must make it peanuts to grow to the top 100 of coinmarketcap. I would not be surprised if we get there within two months by tripling the value. Once more people know the coin, it should be possible to reach a value of around 20k, getting in the top 50 of coins.

For now, I'll just wait and see

Yes, fully agree... but in my opinion even 20k would be really undervalued if you look what's in the Top50 and what's already delivered in Neos (keyword: Security). The reason above all is that Neos did not get the attention it deserves... there wasn't much marketing but a lot of development. And now it seems there are some plans for more PR. People still buy because of hype and most of them always to late. So... I'm pretty sure you made a really good choice before it's really getting started. Smart money! ;-)

[tempus]

A tweet that says it all: https://twitter.com/magaura11/status/590099609411813376

[sgk]

[....] Neos did not get the attention it deserves... there wasn't much marketing but a lot of development.[...]

Fully agree with this. I have never seen a developer who is continuously and consistently dedicated to coding and improving an idea like this.
From wallet to security, it is really a challenge to find a coin that can compete with NEOS.

The only reason we're undervalued is because there is no spotlight. But with slowly but steadily improving marketing and PR, we're bound to reach new height in terms of user base and merchant adoption.

[insom]

pretty high volume past weeks on bittrex for such a under-the-radar-coin!
my body is ready  

[twoturtles]

pretty high volume past weeks on bittrex for such a under-the-radar-coin!
my body is ready  

We're not under the radar by choice - believe me. =)  If you have any questions or need anything just let me know.

     Best regards,

syntaks

[sgk]

Hey folks,

     The winners of our drawing have been posted: http://forum.neoscoin.com/t/neoscoin-raffle/408/8 Congratulations to everyone that won and a sincere thank you to everyone that participated.

     Best regards,

syntaks

So the funds generated from the raffle will be used towards adding support for $NEOS on GoURL.io platform?

Are we already in discussion with GoURL?

[twoturtles]

Hey folks,

     The winners of our drawing have been posted: http://forum.neoscoin.com/t/neoscoin-raffle/408/8 Congratulations to everyone that won and a sincere thank you to everyone that participated.

     Best regards,

syntaks

So the funds generated from the raffle will be used towards adding support for $NEOS on GoURL.io platform?

Are we already in discussion with GoURL?

The funds were put towards paid votes there but it seems pointless.  The thread discussing the outcome and so forth is over here: http://forum.neoscoin.com/t/lets-get-neos-on-gourl/396/86 We're putting our efforts into more worthwhile goals.

    Best regards,

syntaks

[sgk]

Hey folks,

     The winners of our drawing have been posted: http://forum.neoscoin.com/t/neoscoin-raffle/408/8 Congratulations to everyone that won and a sincere thank you to everyone that participated.

     Best regards,

syntaks

So the funds generated from the raffle will be used towards adding support for $NEOS on GoURL.io platform?

Are we already in discussion with GoURL?

The funds were put towards paid votes there but it seems pointless.  The thread discussing the outcome and so forth is over here: http://forum.neoscoin.com/t/lets-get-neos-on-gourl/396/86 We're putting our efforts into more worthwhile goals.

    Best regards,

syntaks

Thanks for the link to thread, I hadn't notice earlier.

When something like that is crafted, you don't have a fair chance.
Anyway, its good that we stear clear of paid voting rat race and spend our energy and time on something substantial and honest.

[Coin-Moron]

Explorer with richlist : http://infernopool.com:8080

[sgk]

Explorer with richlist : http://infernopool.com:8080

Well..  it isn't loading right now, but I checked it couple of days ago when it was working.

Interesting. I can see the first one is verified as Bittrex. Similarly I assume the next 2 or 3 addresses belonging to other exchanges. Becauuse that's quite some quantity to have (250k NEOS). If they belong to individuals, I envy them

[twoturtles]

Explorer with richlist : http://infernopool.com:8080

Well..  it isn't loading right now, but I checked it couple of days ago when it was working.

Interesting. I can see the first one is verified as Bittrex. Similarly I assume the next 2 or 3 addresses belonging to other exchanges. Becauuse that's quite some quantity to have (250k NEOS). If they belong to individuals, I envy them

You and me both =)

[Coin-Moron]

What do we have the next in our pipeline?

[twoturtles]

What do we have the next in our pipeline?

Waiting for a few things to come together and then a lot of coding =)

[twoturtles]

What do we have the next in our pipeline?

I'm experimenting with some blockchain ideas, but we're also entertaining the idea of PoS.  We don't want to go the traditional PoS route, we'd rather do something more unique and productive.  There are still a few features that need some further work done in 2.1, but that's pending for a few reasons.  It's definitely been a busy period of time recently and bound to only get more intense.

     Best regards,

syntaks

[Jonesd]

What do we have the next in our pipeline?

I'm experimenting with some blockchain ideas, but we're also entertaining the idea of PoS.  We don't want to go the traditional PoS route, we'd rather do something more unique and productive.  There are still a few features that need some further work done in 2.1, but that's pending for a few reasons.  It's definitely been a busy period of time recently and bound to only get more intense.

     Best regards,

syntaks

POS is a good distributed approach, but can also prove to be quite risky as it often has blockchain issues. Many coins have died off after a wrong implementation. When done well, on the other hand, it is less centralized than PoW is, so I prefer it.

Hoarding of coins is an issue, though.

[twoturtles]

What do we have the next in our pipeline?

I'm experimenting with some blockchain ideas, but we're also entertaining the idea of PoS.  We don't want to go the traditional PoS route, we'd rather do something more unique and productive.  There are still a few features that need some further work done in 2.1, but that's pending for a few reasons.  It's definitely been a busy period of time recently and bound to only get more intense.

     Best regards,

syntaks

POS is a good distributed approach, but can also prove to be quite risky as it often has blockchain issues. Many coins have died off after a wrong implementation. When done well, on the other hand, it is less centralized than PoW is, so I prefer it.

Hoarding of coins is an issue, though.

We've thought about this and share the same feelings, believe me.  I'm not a huge fan of PoS, however, I have some ideas I'm going to be fabricating into a staging chain and I'll release details after I've verified it's feasible. =)

[Jonesd]

What do we have the next in our pipeline?

I'm experimenting with some blockchain ideas, but we're also entertaining the idea of PoS.  We don't want to go the traditional PoS route, we'd rather do something more unique and productive.  There are still a few features that need some further work done in 2.1, but that's pending for a few reasons.  It's definitely been a busy period of time recently and bound to only get more intense.

     Best regards,

syntaks

POS is a good distributed approach, but can also prove to be quite risky as it often has blockchain issues. Many coins have died off after a wrong implementation. When done well, on the other hand, it is less centralized than PoW is, so I prefer it.

Hoarding of coins is an issue, though.

We've thought about this and share the same feelings, believe me.  I'm not a huge fan of PoS, however, I have some ideas I'm going to be fabricating into a staging chain and I'll release details after I've verified it's feasible. =)

The main issue usually is blockchain bloat, as so many people have to be rewarded, some time with several addresses containing tiny amounts of coins. Perhaps a threshold for minimum amount of coins to stake could work? Require addresses to have at least 0.01% of total coin amount, for example.

Looking forward to the progress!

[twoturtles]

I'm very happy to announce that we are now supported by CoinPayments.net!  It doesn't stop there.  Give us a bit of time to code and we'll see what we can do here. =)

     Best regards,

syntaks

[tempus]

Impossible not being optimistic... and excited about this ongoing progress! :-)

[twoturtles]

There's always progress here whether we advertise it or not.  We're don't spend our time hyping, it's better spent thinking of improvements and so forth. =)

     Best regards,

syntaks

[tempus]

There's always progress here whether we advertise it or not.  We're don't spend our time hyping, it's better spent thinking of improvements and so forth. =)

     Best regards,

syntaks

Absolutely! That's why I'm always optimistic and excited about this project! ;-)

[raze182]

Quick question: Is there a way to export the private key from my wallet?

[twoturtles]

Quick question: Is there a way to export the private key from my wallet?

I'll add that into the queue as a tool to be added.  For now would you be comfortable with using the daemon?

     Best regards,

syntaks

[raze182]

Quick question: Is there a way to export the private key from my wallet?

I'll add that into the queue as a tool to be added.  For now would you be comfortable with using the daemon?

     Best regards,

syntaks

Thanks, that would be a useful tool. Can't say I've ever used a daemon before, unfortunately.

[twoturtles]

Quick question: Is there a way to export the private key from my wallet?

I'll add that into the queue as a tool to be added.  For now would you be comfortable with using the daemon?

     Best regards,

syntaks

Thanks, that would be a useful tool. Can't say I've ever used a daemon before, unfortunately.

What system are you running on?

     Best regards,

syntaks

[raze182]

Quick question: Is there a way to export the private key from my wallet?

I'll add that into the queue as a tool to be added.  For now would you be comfortable with using the daemon?

     Best regards,

syntaks

Thanks, that would be a useful tool. Can't say I've ever used a daemon before, unfortunately.

What system are you running on?

     Best regards,

syntaks

Windows.

[eXpl0sive]

What do we have the next in our pipeline?

I'm experimenting with some blockchain ideas, but we're also entertaining the idea of PoS.  We don't want to go the traditional PoS route, we'd rather do something more unique and productive.  There are still a few features that need some further work done in 2.1, but that's pending for a few reasons.  It's definitely been a busy period of time recently and bound to only get more intense.

     Best regards,

syntaks

POS is a good distributed approach, but can also prove to be quite risky as it often has blockchain issues. Many coins have died off after a wrong implementation. When done well, on the other hand, it is less centralized than PoW is, so I prefer it.

Hoarding of coins is an issue, though.

We've thought about this and share the same feelings, believe me.  I'm not a huge fan of PoS, however, I have some ideas I'm going to be fabricating into a staging chain and I'll release details after I've verified it's feasible. =)

Some people are having a discussion about the success/failures and associated risks of going POS here on this thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1065172.0

With PoW there's a cost associated with producing a coin with mining equipment and electricity so miners won't sell their coins any cheaper than that which creates a floor price. With PoS there is no cost of production, you just have to own and hold coins which also means that everybody can stake their coins.
Another significant difference is that newly generated PoS coins are going to people who are already holding the coins as a reward. That is generally not true for PoW. And more coins mean inflation so in essence PoS coins are rewarding stakers with free coins at the cost of inflation. Personally it doesn't make sense to me why anyone would invest into PoS coins especially considering the average lifespan of coins and how rapidly things change in crypto - but that's jut me.

So I'm not saying we shouldn't go POS but we should give it a careful attention before making the leap if we do.
Because once we go POS, its never going back to POW.

[Jonesd]

What do we have the next in our pipeline?

I'm experimenting with some blockchain ideas, but we're also entertaining the idea of PoS.  We don't want to go the traditional PoS route, we'd rather do something more unique and productive.  There are still a few features that need some further work done in 2.1, but that's pending for a few reasons.  It's definitely been a busy period of time recently and bound to only get more intense.

     Best regards,

syntaks

POS is a good distributed approach, but can also prove to be quite risky as it often has blockchain issues. Many coins have died off after a wrong implementation. When done well, on the other hand, it is less centralized than PoW is, so I prefer it.

Hoarding of coins is an issue, though.

We've thought about this and share the same feelings, believe me.  I'm not a huge fan of PoS, however, I have some ideas I'm going to be fabricating into a staging chain and I'll release details after I've verified it's feasible. =)

Some people are having a discussion about the success/failures and associated risks of going POS here on this thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1065172.0

With PoW there's a cost associated with producing a coin with mining equipment and electricity so miners won't sell their coins any cheaper than that which creates a floor price. With PoS there is no cost of production, you just have to own and hold coins which also means that everybody can stake their coins.
Another significant difference is that newly generated PoS coins are going to people who are already holding the coins as a reward. That is generally not true for PoW. And more coins mean inflation so in essence PoS coins are rewarding stakers with free coins at the cost of inflation. Personally it doesn't make sense to me why anyone would invest into PoS coins especially considering the average lifespan of coins and how rapidly things change in crypto - but that's jut me.

So I'm not saying we shouldn't go POS but we should give it a careful attention before making the leap if we do.
Because once we go POS, its never going back to POW.

Very good points. What it actually the main reason we're considering changing?

[twoturtles]

Quick question: Is there a way to export the private key from my wallet?

I'll add that into the queue as a tool to be added.  For now would you be comfortable with using the daemon?

     Best regards,

syntaks

Thanks, that would be a useful tool. Can't say I've ever used a daemon before, unfortunately.

What system are you running on?

     Best regards,

syntaks

Windows.

Sorry for the delayed response it's been a hell of a hectic day here.  Click start, then either type in the input box 'cmd' or if you have 'Run' click that and then type 'cmd' (without the single quotes).  This will bring up a DOS prompt.  In there, type this:

cd %appdata%\Neos-v2.1 (if Neos-v2.1 is what you chose to name it)
neoscoind.exe -datadir=neos-data dumpprivkey neos-address-here

That should do the trick.  If not, please let me know and we'll get you all squared away.

     Best regards,

syntaks

[twoturtles]

What do we have the next in our pipeline?

I'm experimenting with some blockchain ideas, but we're also entertaining the idea of PoS.  We don't want to go the traditional PoS route, we'd rather do something more unique and productive.  There are still a few features that need some further work done in 2.1, but that's pending for a few reasons.  It's definitely been a busy period of time recently and bound to only get more intense.

     Best regards,

syntaks

POS is a good distributed approach, but can also prove to be quite risky as it often has blockchain issues. Many coins have died off after a wrong implementation. When done well, on the other hand, it is less centralized than PoW is, so I prefer it.

Hoarding of coins is an issue, though.

We've thought about this and share the same feelings, believe me.  I'm not a huge fan of PoS, however, I have some ideas I'm going to be fabricating into a staging chain and I'll release details after I've verified it's feasible. =)

Some people are having a discussion about the success/failures and associated risks of going POS here on this thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1065172.0

With PoW there's a cost associated with producing a coin with mining equipment and electricity so miners won't sell their coins any cheaper than that which creates a floor price. With PoS there is no cost of production, you just have to own and hold coins which also means that everybody can stake their coins.
Another significant difference is that newly generated PoS coins are going to people who are already holding the coins as a reward. That is generally not true for PoW. And more coins mean inflation so in essence PoS coins are rewarding stakers with free coins at the cost of inflation. Personally it doesn't make sense to me why anyone would invest into PoS coins especially considering the average lifespan of coins and how rapidly things change in crypto - but that's jut me.

So I'm not saying we shouldn't go POS but we should give it a careful attention before making the leap if we do.
Because once we go POS, its never going back to POW.

Very good points. What it actually the main reason we're considering changing?

Right now, we have no plans or consideration for changing to PoS.  I'm working on an experimental model, that isn't PoS, but something a bit different.  If I can make it happen, I'll detail it for the community to examine and then as a community we'll all decide if it's something we should implement.

     Best regards,

syntaks

[raze182]

Quick question: Is there a way to export the private key from my wallet?

I'll add that into the queue as a tool to be added.  For now would you be comfortable with using the daemon?

     Best regards,

syntaks

Thanks, that would be a useful tool. Can't say I've ever used a daemon before, unfortunately.

What system are you running on?

     Best regards,

syntaks

Windows.

Sorry for the delayed response it's been a hell of a hectic day here.  Click start, then either type in the input box 'cmd' or if you have 'Run' click that and then type 'cmd' (without the single quotes).  This will bring up a DOS prompt.  In there, type this:

cd %appdata%\Neos-v2.1 (if Neos-v2.1 is what you chose to name it)
neoscoind.exe -datadir=neos-data dumpprivkey neos-address-here

That should do the trick.  If not, please let me know and we'll get you all squared away.

     Best regards,

syntaks

That did it. Thanks a lot for your help. Much appreciated.

[twoturtles]

Quick question: Is there a way to export the private key from my wallet?

I'll add that into the queue as a tool to be added.  For now would you be comfortable with using the daemon?

     Best regards,

syntaks

Thanks, that would be a useful tool. Can't say I've ever used a daemon before, unfortunately.

What system are you running on?

     Best regards,

syntaks

Windows.

Sorry for the delayed response it's been a hell of a hectic day here.  Click start, then either type in the input box 'cmd' or if you have 'Run' click that and then type 'cmd' (without the single quotes).  This will bring up a DOS prompt.  In there, type this:

cd %appdata%\Neos-v2.1 (if Neos-v2.1 is what you chose to name it)
neoscoind.exe -datadir=neos-data dumpprivkey neos-address-here

That should do the trick.  If not, please let me know and we'll get you all squared away.

     Best regards,

syntaks

That did it. Thanks a lot for your help. Much appreciated.

Anytime =)

[tempus]

Good news and Price is rising:


What could this mean?
http://community.neoscoin.com/t/what-could-this-mean/446

Good morning folks =) Mobile development is in progress thanks to a determined and dedicated $neos supporter. #neoscoin #altcoin
https://twitter.com/NeosCoin/status/602831156686520321

 

[AltxF4]

Things are looking good, more new people interested I sure hope!

[sgk]

Looking good! 

[stoner19]

Looking good! 

Yeah dude! Seems to be a lot of accumulation recently and overall distribution looks great! So glad to be involved in NEOS!

[mightgetlucky]

Looking great! Just wish coins had more volume.

[tempus]

Looking great! Just wish coins had more volume.

For a coin at this marketcap (and sure, it should have a much higher MC) the volume is not that bad. We're between releases, for the public it seems more like a quiet time. And the current price seems to establish a new base. I'm very optimistic the future releases and news will have more impact on the market than in the past.

And the great thing about Neos: Not just Syntaks and his guys are always working and delivering, also some skilled Community-Members are highly active behind the curtain. I don't know any project with such a progress. Needed is "just" more attention on this pearl, but it's also increasing. 

[twoturtles]

Hey folks,

    I wanted to post this here, just a few words and updates from me: http://forum.neoscoin.com/t/upcoming-development-the-current-state-of-and-other-news/452  If anyone needs anything, don't hesitate to contact me or the team.

    Best regards,

syntaks

[Jonesd]

Hey folks,

    I wanted to post this here, just a few words and updates from me: http://forum.neoscoin.com/t/upcoming-development-the-current-state-of-and-other-news/452  If anyone needs anything, don't hesitate to contact me or the team.

    Best regards,

syntaks

Inspirational stuff!  Appreciate the dedication!

[sgk]

Hey folks,

    I wanted to post this here, just a few words and updates from me: http://forum.neoscoin.com/t/upcoming-development-the-current-state-of-and-other-news/452  If anyone needs anything, don't hesitate to contact me or the team.

    Best regards,

syntaks

It was a good read, thanks!
NEOS will be turning a year old soon, yay! You said it right, how time flies!

Thanks for continuously being on your toe for the development, the future definitely looks bright!

[hentzikov]

Just stopped by to say I'm new to the Neos community and accumulated quite a few coins now so I'm excited for the future of the [Suspicious link removed]d stuff all around here 

[tempus]

Just stopped by to say I'm new to the Neos community and accumulated quite a few coins now so I'm excited for the future of the [Suspicious link removed]d stuff all around here 

Welcome to the best project I know! A little hint for everybody who is new:

Infernoman ‏@clark_alastair
Tomorrow night at 9PM EST meet us at the $Neos IRC channel for another Give away !
https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/#neoscoin

https://twitter.com/clark_alastair/status/606301058600595456


As far as I know, he will do that everyday for some time.

[ffpool.net]

NeosCoin has been added to the SHA256 Multiport @ http://ffpool.net

Mine every coin, every algo and get paid in every coin or directly in BTC

[vlvarbanov]

Is it still alive this coin?

[twoturtles]

Is it still alive this coin?

Absolutely.

     Best regards,

syntaks

[vlvarbanov]

Is it still alive this coin?

Absolutely.

     Best regards,

syntaks

Any news?

[twoturtles]

Is it still alive this coin?

Absolutely.

     Best regards,

syntaks

Any news?

This should be resolved shortly, we're still working on it and we'll keep everyone posted as we have news to share.

     Best regards,

syntaks

[wildduck]

Nice syntaks keep up the good work

[syberwolfen]

hi try to see if it is a good investment
i am glad to see the dev is still there from the begining

I am feed up with shithy coin

is there any web site or new enhancement

[wildduck]

hi try to see if it is a good investment
i am glad to see the dev is still there from the begining

I am feed up with shithy coin

is there any web site or new enhancement

This is website
http://www.neoscoin.com/

[syberwolfen]

hi try to see if it is a good investment
i am glad to see the dev is still there from the begining

I am feed up with shithy coin

is there any web site or new enhancement

This is website
http://www.neoscoin.com/

thanks i will definitely purchase this coin i put a buy order for 10000 units

[wildduck]

I can`t miss with this coin and the price now is good, people still didn`t realize the potential of this coin.

[syberwolfen]

I think so also.
but I have been a really bad juge in altcoin
i lost more than i gain....cross my finger
with this one
dev is still here
no garbage in the thread

wow 

[syberwolfen]

I know we want to keep low profile but some activity would be nice

bittrex threaded us to be delisted 

[wildduck]

I know we want to keep low profile but some activity would be nice

bittrex threaded us to be delisted 

Not going to happen, but some activity would be nice.

[meyer]

at the Moment the thread looks like a two-men-party of syberwolfen and wildduck   

[syberwolfen]

yep great party

[Jonesd]

at the Moment the thread looks like a two-men-party of syberwolfen and wildduck   

Spectator here Just keep talking

[tempus]

The thread is always quiet, but they're all there. Dev is in the IRC. ;-)

[wildduck]

Party is going on

[CryptoSporidium]

Is neos part of supernet?

[syberwolfen]

any news

[rakesh1_90]

any news

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