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• Real-Time Detailed Mining Dashboard
• Detailed Statistics
• Site-wide SSL and DDoS Protection
• Anonymous Account Setting

Mining

• Stratum Mining Protocol (Auto Geo-location)
• VarDiff
• PPLNS - 1% Pool Fee
• Instant Payout (Once Balance is confirmed)
• Malicious Attack Mitigation

Transactions - (To be revised as Nexious grows)

• Support Max Blocksize
• No blacklisting of Addresses
• No prioritizing of transactions
• No change to any other default settings

Difficulty Settings

stratum.nexious.com:3333 -u Username.WorkerName -p WorkerPassword

• VarDiff
• Initial Diff: 128
• Min Diff: 8
• Max Diff: 4096

stratum.nexious.com:3334 -u Username.WorkerName -p WorkerPassword

• Fixed Diff: 512

stratum.nexious.com:3335 -u Username.WorkerName -p WorkerPassword

• Fixed Diff: 1024

stratum.nexious.com:3336 -u Username.WorkerName -p WorkerPassword

• Fixed Diff: 2048

We currently support maximum block size, and run Matt Corallo's Relay Network to ensure blocks are relayed as fast as possible. Payouts are instant as soon as your BTC is confirmed in your balance (100 Network Confirmations). Our stratum will recognize your location and connect you to the closest server we have to ensure the lowest latency possible (servers will continue to be added as we grow, and updates posted here.)

Good luck with your new pool.  By the way, generated coins mature after 100 confirmations, not 120.

If you have a main account here, I'd suggest posting with it as you're likely to run into some trust issues as a brand new poster opening up a pool.

Thank you jonnybravo! I am relatively new around here hence the newbie account, have lurked for several months before deciding to take on this project as I saw many reputable pools shut down. I created Nexious to help with the decentralization of the network, and only time will build trust so I understand if there is a lack of interest for a while.

Ah sorry about that, had read the client required 120 confirmations but network only required 100 will change that :)

questions for my list.
do you pay tx fees ?
do you pay dust ?
merged mining ?

Hi innerchaos,

We pay TX fees (allow max block size)
Minimum payout is 0.001 BTC
We currently do not support merged mining but if there is enough interest it will get implemented.

Hi

How many users are registered? Whats the deal with the 0% fee account for the first 50 users?

I thought I would send you a few GH to test things out.

Dash looks good and easy setup, so far so good.

itsnogood  :)

I sent some GH over to try and help. Layout does look good, but there seems to be a bug in the variable diff.

The diff changes to way to high, starts out OK, but jumps up to about ~4180 diff (with only 300GH), so end up with 3 - 4 minutes in-between share submits, which causes the diff to drop to double digits, then jumps it's way back up to about ~4180 again, repeats over and over. Probably had 40-50 changes in about 2 hours before I stopped.

Also, as was mentioned earlier about the 120 confirmations, it's still on the pool stats page, that pay-out is still at 120 confirmations.

Hi

yeah, I'm seeing the same thing with the diff. I thought it might have settled but its started to jump about again.

I do like the layout of the dashboard and the stats pages. I can see all the other users  :D

I might let it go a while longer to see if things settle but at the moment my S3's not happy.

itsnogood :-\

Thanks itsnogood, currently there are 25 accounts signed up so another 25 left. You will get 0% fees for life as a bonus for joining in the early stages :)

I am investigating the difficulty jumping for some people at the moment, jump on IRC if you want to chat :)

Thanks profall for adding Nexious to your website!

Difficulty jumping should now be fixed, have also added the 0% Fee to all accounts signed up for so far.

My miner failed over so I have rebooted and left it for a while but my diff is way too high and so the reported hash and diff is all over the place.

I'm sure you will sort out any bugs in the system but for now I'm gonna hop.
I'll be back.  :)

Your difficulty was staying around the 2000 mark and hashrate around the 300GH/s mark. I will have a closer investigation but seems like it was working fine.

I will be opening some fixed diff ports soon for anyone else that is having issues with VarDiff.

Let me know if you do and I'll give them a try.
I had an S3 pointed at the pool on stock frequency settings.

Hi itsnogood, I have added a few fixed diff ports if you would like to try them?

stratum.nexious.com:3333 -u Username.WorkerName -p WorkerPassword

• VarDiff
• Initial Diff = 128
• Min Diff = 8
• Max Diff = 4096

stratum.nexious.com:3334 -u Username.WorkerName -p WorkerPassword

• Fixed Diff = 512

stratum.nexious.com:3335 -u Username.WorkerName -p WorkerPassword

• Fixed Diff = 1024

stratum.nexious.com:3336 -u Username.WorkerName -p WorkerPassword

• Fixed Diff = 2048

I'm on port 3334 (fixed diff 512)
Its looking a lot more stable at my end.

Would be good to see if Jake36 can get his miners to settle at the lower diff settings.

Do you know what iceCold is running so we can compare.

Thats good to hear, ill keep an eye on it and see if any more tweaks need to be made. Im not sure what he is running sorry.

I sent a miner over did I make the 50 count cut for zero fee's ??

Yes innerchaos, have made your account 0% fees forever :)

awesome... well I will leave a miner here for awhile..

since its a new pool I cant afford more than 1. but I wish you luck..

No that's fine, I understand and 1 miner is more than enough. Thank you for helping Nexious grow and hopefully more miners like the website too :)

Just came in from doing yard work, so I'll switch one set-up over now and give the 512 fixed rate a try and see how it does.

Sounds good Jake36, let me know if you run into any issues :)

Sent a miner. Did I make the first 50 cut for the special?

Hi kelten, yes you have. Have updated your account for 0% Fees forever :)

Hi Nexious,
maybe I'm missing something but I am unable to set a Payment Address in Account Details. I have entered one but when I return to the page it is not displayed.
What am I doing wrong?

Are you entering your pin and clicking update? Are there any other errors displayed?

I'll have a look into this now as it seems to work for everyone else.

Each time I set the payout address, when I logged out and logged back in the details were missing.
Have just set the address again and this time it has saved it properly.
I have no idea why, had no error messages, just happy its now ok.

Okay that's good to hear it's working now, I'm currently looking into it to see if any tweaks need to be made so no one else has any issues.

I signed up and throwing a miner your way.

Welcome aboard kipper01 :) I have made your account 0% fees forever also. Let me know if you have any problems or feedback!

So... I wanted to test how rigs on MRR would work out with your pool.  I assigned my rigs to mine here.  Unfortunately, they didn't switch over very well - I got about half my expected hash rate.  Since I'm traveling and don't have physical access to my miners, I wasn't able to power cycle them (which has sometimes helped), so I'm not sure if this is an issue with MRR and your pool, or my miners just misbehaving (they tend to do that when I have to travel for work... just like kids... dad leaves and they throw a party :P ).

When I get back this weekend, I'll try again and let you know.

Sorry to hear that jonnybravo0311, when you get back let me know if there was any issues your end or I can have a deeper look here. Also try the fixed diff ports to see if that makes any difference?

Thank you to all miners who have registered so far, there are 6 more 0% Fee accounts available! So if you haven't got one yet grab one before its too late ;)

There are only a couple left till 50 miners have registered but I will give it until tomorrow and make all accounts made 0% Fee forever :)

Also the website will be getting a few updates including an API you can use, and a more detailed getting started page to help out you newer miners.

Registered, will throw some miners to test out. Keep up the good work!

What is your N value for PPLNS?

Have made your account 0% Fees dimke_yu, thanks for checking out Nexious.


Nexious's N value is an average over the last 5 blocks, have also made your account 0% Fee WBF1 :)

It is nice to see the hashrate slowly increasing.  :)

It is great isn't it :P Thank you to all the miners putting their trust in Nexious, we can all slowly help decentralization one bit at a time.

Thank you to all miners who have registered, all accounts created as of now are 0% Fee forever!

All accounts created from now on will incur the 1% Pool Fee to help pay for server/development/running costs. Keep an eye out though as I may run another 0% Fee promotion again in the near future.

Another big thank you to the current miners and a big welcome to the future miners, if there are any issues/feedback/suggestions let me know!

I'll hang with for a while and see if Nexious grows. Waiting 196 days on average for a block isn't sustainable for me though. Hopefully we get some more miners.

Edit: to be fair, Nexious seems to be  growing pretty well.

I understand that WBF1, hopefully we get lucky and find a block soon so other miners get interested :) Thank you for having a go anyway!

Nexious is now hovering around the 20TH/s a mark for the last 24 hours, so now is a great time to jump in and mine with us!

Can you tell us who "us" is?

I ran a domain check & noticed the registrant ID was based in Panama, which sounded familiar, so I cross referenced it out of curiosity/boredom. Guess what, I found a perfect match. Your records are exactly the same in every detail as an ex-"pool" going by the name of overhash.com which disappeared without trace after questions were asked about some dubious claims by the brand new account OP:

nexious.com:  http://whois.domaintools.com/nexious.com

overhash.com:  http://whois.domaintools.com/overhash.com

I'm not suggesting that you will do the same as last time, but miners are very wary of new pools with new accounts as it is, let alone ones that are obvious reincarnations of previous vanishing pools. Showing a little transparency would go a long way towards instilling some trust in miners, so I'll ask again - who is "us"?

Thanks.

Hi blarneystone,

Firstly I am the sole runner of Nexious, I meant us as in Nexious as a whole.

Also whois records hidden by whois guard by default by the name register I used (namecheap) so all .com domains registered through them will come up the same.

I have never heard of this OverHash pool before nor am I affiliated with it (it no longer seems to be running?)

Sorry for the misinterpreted post and hopefully this clarifies it for you.

Not really, no. You still haven't told us who you are, where you're based or how anyone can contact you in case you go AWOL like BAN, overhash, BeastBTC or numerous other pop-up-pools have done previously. Seems that as soon as one scam pool goes down, another one pops up to take it's place these days.

When a miner uses a pool they are placing a lot of trust in that pool owner, if that pool owner hides behind a shroud & a noob account it immediately rings alarm bells, so you need to return some kind of transparency & trustworthiness to your miners, don't you think?  ;)

Sorry blarneystone I have introduced myself to a bunch of the miners on IRC, I did create Nexious because of the fact that many of the larger pools had shut down and noticed the miners centralising on some of the larger pools.

So anyway, my name is William and I'm from New Zealand (down the bottom of the world for who don't know) you can contact me on support@nexious.com or on IRC (#Nexious @ freenode) or PM me on here.

I agree with being as transparent as possible and have answerd all questions asked, I also believe trust can only be built over time hence I don't expect any large miners to try out Nexious in the first weeks :)

Edit:
I am pushing a couple of updates to the front end, if you can't connect to website just try and refresh. Stratum is not affected so you can keep mining.

Interesting conversation.  I am a noob at this not sure what else Nexious could do to prove he is legit.  These days activity on these boards does not mean someone can be trusted.   anyway...

Lets hit a block.  :P

I have tried to be as transparent as possible, any questions I have asked them so at the end of the day like I said previously the only thing that builds trust is time. Nexious isn't going anywhere, and yes lets hit a block ;)

Any plans to entice more miners to join the pool? We need more miners.
Its odd that we must have at least 50 people who registered for the 0% account.

WHERE HAVE YOU ALL GONE?

You have now started Dash mining also. Although you have no miners as yet.
Good luck.


 

Пpивeт,я нaпpимep нe yшeл,y мeня в дpyгoм пyлe мaлocть нe зaкoнчeнo,a тaк я бyдy пpoдoлжaть ;)

Hope to see you back soon Spiker777

I plan on running another 0 fees type thing again, yet Nexious currently has over 150 accounts registered yet only 10-15 actually mining. I guess miners don't really care about the security of the network.

I created the dash pool as a few of the miners asked me if I could create one for them yet no one seems to have used it.

It is a nice setup.  Easy to read on the phone.  Too bad everyone is disappearing :(

I am glad you find it easy to use on your mobile, I wanted it to be nice and simple so you can check what your miners are doing on the go. I am thinking about doing another 0% Fee promotion to attract more miners, so keep an eye out for that.

I agree. The website is put together well.

a good interface front-end
i wait for scrypt based coin to mining in this pool

I didn't make the cut for the 0% fees, but I threw a miner your way anyway.  Lets hope more miners do the same.  Good luck to all.

You must be the only person currently mining Nexious that isn't 0%. That sucks, especially as there are only about 10 people mining at the moment.

Well done for sticking around.

Maybe Nexious will take pity and make you 0% .

haha yeah I was thinking the same thing.  I probably am the only one.  I expected at least 50 miners on the pool, but im sure most people are waiting to see if the pool sticks around before redirecting their miners. 
**Fingers crossed for a super lucky block**

Sorry that you missed out on the 0 Fees, but keep an eye out as I will be running another promotion soon! Thank you for having a look at Nexious though :)

Should utilize the invitation system and for the invites from that give them 0% fee.  Or reward the inviter if someone they invite hits a block.

That's a great idea kipper01, ill start that up now.

The next 50 miners that are invited by a miner at Nexious will also receive a 0% Fee account forever.

That's a good idea.

May I invite  BlInK311 as he/she is already mining on this pool. I feel bad they missed out on the 0%.

  ;D

Have updated their account to 0 fees :)

Register and Invite a friend Promotion!

The next 50 users who register and invite a friend will both receive a 0% Fee account that lasts forever!

Register an Account: Here (https://nexious.com/index.php?page=register)
Invite a Friend: Here (https://nexious.com/index.php?page=account&action=invitations)

These 0% Fee accounts last forever, so get in quick as there are a limited amount of accounts available for this promotion.

Good luck with this pool :)
Although if I had any advice I'd say lower the fee to something insignificant like 0.1% for now. It is already extremely expensive and risky to mine in a pool that has never solved a block before.

Thanks Taras! I agree hence why I have run two 0% Fee promotions now and 70% of the miner base are 0% fees. The fee originally was put there to cover server/up time costs (which are currently coming out of my own pocket) and to maintain the pool.

Thanks guys!!  I noticed the 0% when I logged in to check my miner status this morning.  Was happy to see that!  Thank you both!

No problem BlInK311! Thanks for giving Nexious a try, if you have any problems or feedback let me know.

Edit: (08/08/15)
I have updated all accounts that were eligible for the 0% Fee promotion to zero fees!

I needed some coin, so had to point at another pool for a bit.

Now that I got a couple of purchases out of the way, will be splitting some hash back back between here and there.

That's understandable Jake36, as the pool hashrate is still rather low so the first block may take some time. Thanks for coming back though ;)

Edit:
This 0% Fee promotion has had a large interest and there are only a couple more accounts left for eligibility. Get in quick before its too late!  - Now Finished

You now have many new miner accounts registered, that's good. So, where are they all? Definitely not mining.

Nexious - are you actively mining on your own pool?

My miners will be down for a while, back later.

In hindsight. Maybe you should have offered 0% fees to people after they supplied a certain number of shares.  Or a minimum length of time mining (week or so). 
That may have forced people to dedicate their miner to your pool. 

Now comes the question: How do you entice larger miners over?

I am out till I see more activity.  Really like it though.

That's a good a question, wish I could answer. There are a total of 176 accounts registered at the moment, with 132 logging in within the last few days.
No I am not mining as I have had to give up mining as electricity costs to much here (upwards of $0.18/kW). Thanks for giving Nexious a go though!


In hindsight that would have probably have been a better idea. With the 176 accounts registered at the moment, 117 are 0% fees so a large portion are already zero fees.

I wish I could answer that as I would be doing that now, I guess the only thing that will entice large miners is trust. Which I think can only be built with time.


Glad you like it kipper01, hopefully we see you back!

Hi everyone,

Just a quick update, I have set up an EU stratum now also. Connect to the normal one and it will automatically select which one is the best for you :) If you have any issues let me know.
There are now over 200 accounts created at Nexious, sadly a small percentage are actually mining.

So all accounts created before we find out first block will be converted to 0% fees! Yes that's correct, an unlimited amount of accounts can be created before we find the first block which will all be 0% fees forever!

There are still free accounts?

You could always read the post above yours.

"So all accounts created before we find out first block will be converted to 0% fees! Yes that's correct, an unlimited amount of accounts can be created before we find the first block which will all be 0% fees forever!"

We are yet to find our first block so get yourself registered (at 0%) and get mining.

Yes, all accounts created before the first block is found will be converted to 0% fees. The first block has not been found yet so all accounts created at the moment will be :)

The pool hash rate is rising and so is the number of miners.
Now is a good time to jump on board and lets get this block done and dusted.

 :)

We have been up and down between 20TH/s and 200Th/s the last few days, hopefully some more people stick round to mine the first block!

I am also in the process of changing the newly created accounts (last couple of days) to 0% fees, so check back shortly and yours should be updated if it hasn't already.

Hi there,

I signed up to the pool on Sunday but it's still showing 1% for the fees. (I hope I still qualify  ;D)

Also never got the email confirmation when i signed up. Can you please have a look at that?

I have tried reaching out to you on the site but I haven't got a reply yet  :(

just pointed 5 ths towards your pool under user Gecox22. I hope this helps. Do I need to do anything for the 0% fees?

Welcome aboard jsp3cs15 and gecox22! Hopefully getting started and mining was nice and easy, I would love to hear feedback on if you had any troubles or if I can simplify anything.


Sorry jsp3cs15, I have been rather busy in trying to get the Ethereum pool launched and keeping the Bitcoin pool working as fast as possible. I have sent you a reply to your email please check your junk if you haven't received. If you wish to have a faster reply try PM'ing me on here also.


Welcome abaord gecox22! Thank you for trying out Nexious and I hope everything is going smoothly.

I have just updated both your accounts to zero fees! So get mining ;)

No problem, thanks for mining at Nexious! Hopefully more people have a go too so we can mine that block faster :)

Pulled a couple S3s off solo to sit here for a bit.

Like the web interface. It looks similar to one we use for monitoring our server room temps. Makes it easy to have the mining stats page open all day at work.  ;D  8)

Glad you like it and welcome aboard :) If you have any feedback or suggestions please let me know.

Hi There,

I can confirm my accounts now has 0% fees. =)
but still haven't got that email confirmation yet though, I sent you a PM to confirm my email address.

Overall I love your dashboard and the UI on it. This the reason why i signed up the color scheme is also very sexy to the eyes.

Another Question. I also have some Dash miners but I can see the pool doesn't have anyone on it. Is it up?

Yes I did update your account :) Yes the Dash pool is up and we did find a block, you can use the same log in but you may have to recreate your workers on the Dash page. Also it uses Port 4444 for the stratum.

Also I will look into the email issue and try and solve now.

I tried connecting a zeusminer 6 chip or 1.5mhs and I am getting nothing but rejects. Is there anything I should do for low difficulty

As far as I am aware the Zeusminer is a scrypt ASIC? Dash uses the X11 algorithm so you cannot use it to mine Dash. I have just tried myself and was able to submit shares, correct me if I am wrong?

Your probably right didnt know dash was x11 LOL. trying to find a place for my zeus to sit ..;:)

Hey There,

Any luck with the email notification?
Just keen to update my withdrawal address.
Also looking to buy more miners! =P

Hi jsp3cs15, I tried to manually send it through has it still not yet arrived? I have tested with other accounts and the email's seem to come through, some time in the junk box though.

PM me the address you wish to withdraw to and I can manually change it for you if you would like.

Nexious is currently undergoing a DDoS attack, I am working hard to resolve and bring Nexious back up. Please make sure you have a fail over pool set, all information is safe but access may be intermittent

Everything should be running smoothly again, I am pushing out some updates to make sure this doesn't happen again. Thank you all for your patience.

Nobody is DDOS'ing your pool - CoinWallet.eu are spamming the entire network. If you spent a little more time keeping up with current affairs instead of self-bumping your thread, you would have known this.....

Hey Nexious,

My miner has been on this pool for the last 7 days I haven't seen any unconfirmed/confirmed on my account, all I can see is the est. Round Earnings is this expected? I would of thought by now the miners would have at least something?

Can anyone chime in here to confirm?

The pool would have to hit a block first.

I have thrown a fair bit at this pool recently, as has ajohnnyjohn and now you seem to be taking up the challenge.
The fact is that we need more miners otherwise this could drag on, and on.... Unless we get lucky.

Nexious - any ideas or future plans that might get some more interest in the pool.

That is incorrect, I was not having trouble with the Bitcoin client itself, it was connectivity of the web server and one of the stratum's that were getting flooded. Hence I have made some changes and cloudflare should be a bit more helpful now.


That is correct itsnogood, I am open to suggestions on what miners would like. I have already offered the 0% fees accounts, then everyone else is 0% fees until the first block is found.

Like I said any suggestions will be looked into :)

Oke i put a little support in, 2 unclocked S3'3
Cant't afford to put all my power here.
Really hope we can find a block! ;D

There is somethimes cheap rental hash avaleble on nicehash, if you really trust Nexious or if your the owner than that would be an opption.
You would pay sometimes 1-2% below expected earing :-X

Welcome aboard SunnyIgor! I rent some hash when its cheap enough as power here is too expensive to run my own miners sadly ($0.25/kw + at the moment).

I just thew 3.5 TH/S @ you.  Hope that helps.

Welcome Laviathon! I will change your account to 0 fees shortly. If you need anything let me know :)

Your fine man.  Keep your 1%.  Lets just get you that elusive first block.

Laviathon

Hi everyone!

Nexious has been around for 2 months today! Sadly we still have not found our first block and I would like to know what you guys as the miners would like to see, or want in a pool?

The reason I created Nexious was to help decentralize the network, as everyone was mining on a select few pools which encouraged new miners to join those said pools also. I have tried to create incentives (0% fee accounts etc) but with over 500 accounts created only a select few mine at Nexious.

I want to hear some feedback from you all on what you would like to see or what you would like to change?

I am also considering running a block finder bonus, that will be paid out of my own pocket to entice new miners over.

Thanks,
Nexious

I would think all new pools must go through the same thing. Most miners are wary of putting too much of their money/ mining resources into a new pool that has no track record of block completion or pay-outs, its human nature.

I want to support this pool for the same reasons you created it in the first place. Also I have put a fair bit of hashing power in and would love to see a return on that.

The pool needs to get its first block done for it to be able to grow. I'm sure that some of the 500 users will come back for a second look. I am not able to keep my miners on the pool 100% but will be pointing them here as and when I can. I will also rent some hash in the near future as I have some BTC at MRR to use.

Nexious- A block finders bonus is an interesting idea, might entice some bigger hash rate users in.
In the meantime maybe renting to boost the pools hash rate might be a start.

Now's the time to do whatever lucky dance floats yer boat or drink a beer to the Bitcoin Gods to bring us some luck.  :)

I completely understand that, only problem is that Nexious can't get a track record as such without finding a block :P

I am looking in to the idea of a block finder bonus, just need to sort out what I can afford (server bills were just due) then investigate escrowing the amount or something to prove that I can pay it etc. As I don't want to be like all the other pools I have seen that offer similar and things go down hill.

I have been renting a bit of hash here and there to try and boost it up :)

I would love to see this pool thrive. I would have thought for sure something would have come up by now. I think you are on the right track on getting users we just need to find a block. Once the blocks roll in the users will start to flood. I mean at our current hash rate it will take 173.36 days to find one block. If you have been up two months we are down to 110 days give or take. I am sure one will come when is hard to say. I don't want to see the pool go any where for lets hope something happens.

Rest assured that Nexious isn't going anywhere, the ideals the pool was founded on are still there. I understand that enticing miners over from bigger pools is a hard task, one that I am still dedicated too.

It would help for any ideas or feedback from miners on why they prefer to mine/not mine at Nexious so I can try and make changes that make Nexious more appealing.

On a side note;
The Vanillacoin pool that was launched has been finding blocks and payments have been sent so the payment/reward system does work for those who are questioning.

Hi everyone!

I have been playing around with the idea of offering a 1-5BTC bonus for block finders to gain new miners, I am willing to offer a bonus of 1 BTC to the first block finder as a bonus! Depending on how this pans out I may extend it to future blocks if Nexious does not gain enough miners to find blocks on a regular basis.

This will be coming out of my own pocket along with the server costs which do already. I will look into an escrow type thing now if the miners are wanting that also.

So let your friends and miners know, and point them to Nexious :)

Wow this is awesome. I will pass the word around for sure and lets see what we can come up with.

Sending you 2th :)

Best of luck to you all!

Maybe its a stupid question,

But is the estimated earning is reliable at this point?

If we ever find  a block this week, and I own more than 1/3 of the hash rate...
Will I Really earn >1BTC???

Should I not receive 1/3 of 25btc?

Est Earnings are what you would get paid if a block was found that second, you will see if go up (or down) depending on your hashrate vs pool hashrate. As your earnings are based on the work submitted (shares). So seeing as you are new to the pool your total shares are smaller than some other miners that have been mining for days etc if that makes sense?

And 1-5btc finder bonus?

How can we know who hit the block?

We're going to find this first block! xD

You got your wish. =)

ajohnnyjohn is back with 202 T/H. Welcome back ajohnnyjohn!

Spread the word guys and lets find that block!

Wow with 202 THS this should go fast I cant wait for some one to hit a block!!!!

Yes I am offering 1 BTC for the finder of the first block, and potentially more blocks afterwards. The block finder will be listed on Nexious when we do find it :)


Welcome back ajohnnyjohn! I also had just rented around 50 TH/s for about 12 hours too :)

Bceм дoбpoгo вpeмeни,чтo y мeня в бacceйнe cкaчки cтaтиcтики,интepecнo этo тoлькo y мeня тaк? ::)

Sorry I don't understand Russian, tried to google translate but still don't know what your trying to say.

All the good time that I jump in the pool statistics, I wonder is it just me?

Sorry I still don't get what your trying to say :(

Are you statistics not working properly? Or are you talking about the pool hashrate? There are a few larger miners coming and going at the moment, that's why we are hovering around 20-200TH/s at the moment.

you understand me correctly about statistics

The statistics are working fine from my end, pool hash rate is 290TH/s at the moment. Is that not what you see?

I hardly go to the pool

Now back down to 27 TH.

Pool stats graphs must look like one hell of a crazy rollercoaster.

Wooooohaaaaa    ;D

Not sure what ajohnnyjohn is doing, up to 220TH/s and down to 20TH/s. Maybe hes just testing his rigs :o

I think he is renting most likely thus the up and down roller coaster. Current the hash rate of the pool is around 29k. But I am having issues with the webpage as well showing offline currently.

Confirmed it's down for me as well.

* Website is offline No cached version of this page is available....

Web down again but mining looks to be unaffected.
 

Well, if we want something to happen with this pool, we better start planning something...

We need a supported hashing effort for a few days at least...

Let's group up and get that block?
I'm willing to rent 200th for 24 hours if anybody else equal my offer!

OP - To answer your question from a different thread,
I would like to see a pool, where the homepage display the last block finder (username) - with an option to /changetip the finder, or maybe a filling jackpot or something... I think that would be an interesting idea to implement, and you'll surely be the first.

On a Side note, What is the official finder bonus? I recommend you commit to a number soonish :P

correctly will coordinate all such a step,can still have the chance?! and then if one to throw 200 TH only on luck

All it takes is 1 hash...

The idea is to regroup and coordinate to try to reach 1 PH.

If we don't do this, we are really relying on pure luck...  10th? I Mean, its not serious.

Unfortunately, if you try to get a bunch of people together to rent hash, you'll all be competing with each other on the rental site.  It would be better if you could get a trusted member to run a group rental for you.

Of course, you need to realize that even if you do manage to get five people interested in supporting this pool by throwing 200TH/s at it for 24 hours, you're still not guaranteed a block.  In fact, with 1PH/s, your expected time to block is just over 3 days at current difficulty.  That's a pretty significant risk for most - a cost of about 1.6BTC to get a 1 in 3 chance of finding a block where your maximum possible payout would be 5BTC.

Please don't misunderstand me, I wish OP the best of luck with the pool and hope it finds a block.  Once the pool starts finding blocks, it will start to attract more users (especially if the current users are happy with the pool).

Thanks for the input jonnybravo0311, its kind of a 'catch 22' situation. Miners don't want to mine as Nexious doesn't have a record of finding blocks/paying out, yet we can't find a block unless we have miners. Hence why I am asking for any suggestions or feedback to help remedy the situation of miners not mining.

Unfortunately, you're right about it being a catch 22.  Too many people in this ecosystem have been poisoned by scams, ripoffs, vaporware, etc.  It makes for a bunch of very jaded folks who are quicker to lash out at anything new, than to try it.

Bitcoin pools are a hard sell, and you've definitely got your work cut out for you.  Giant farms aren't going to throw hash your way because you're an unknown commodity.  Hobby miners are wary of giving you any hash because most are barely squeaking by as it is, and the gamble of a new pool that has yet to find a block is simply too much for them to bear.

I wish I had the "killer app" that would make people flock to a new pool.  Of course, if I did, I'd probably be implementing it myself :P

Actually I think your numbers got jumbled a bit... it would take about 1.6 BTC to run 200TH for 24 hours and it would take a whopping 12 BTC to run 1PH for 24 hours

Sadly that is true, I am working on making things easier and more appealing but the main goal is still the same to help the Bitcoin network. As always I am open to suggestions :)

12 employees out of 500 it's sad of course
 :-\

Wow 12 BTC for 1 PH on 24 hours. But what would be the payout if the pool hit a block?

Payout would depend on shares submitted, but with 1PH compared to what is currently hashing you would get a rather reasonable chunk of the block. Unless the block was found near when you started hashing if that makes sense?

Sorry for the confusing way I wrote that ;).  The 1.6BTC is per person in the 5 man group the original post suggested.  You can rent 1PH/s for 24 hours for 8BTC on NH/WH.

Server problems?  

 :(

Looks like we are still mining though.

Edit-
Stats page a bit messed up.
Wow, jsp3c you are making
2,963,865,600.000  BTC / Day
according to the stats page. lets hope we hit a block now.  ;D

Apologies for that, was an error with the routing of the frontpage through cloudflare. Mining shouldn't have been effected.

Should be fixed now :) Will keep a close eye on it.

In roughly 8 hours I will be upgrading/updating the pool.

Mining will be effected so please make sure you have a backup pool configured. Estimated down time will be roughly 30 minutes. I will post updates before and after down time :)

Edit:
Server maintenance is now started.
Update/Upgrade now complete, mining should be back to normal :)

Can you give any further info on what upgrades/updates you have done to the pool. Any performance updates that might help us along?

Also.... What on earth is going on with all the errors and funky stats on the web page? its happing again now.

Sending some TH there!

I have upgraded the front end web server, but in the process there were some issues with the way cloud flare caches things which were throwing errors on the front page. Mining was unaffected, unless anyone has had any issues?

More cloud flare problems ? or has the web server burst into flames?

Miners failed over earlier + had a load of BadWork errors. Web front end still down.

Any updates?

Edit - Web front end back up.

Cloudflare issues should be sorted, there was a couple of issues with Bitcoin's mempool which was causing the daemon to use upwards of 8gb of RAM slowing things a little. The issue has been solved, but will be monitoring things closely still.

No, not fixed. Website has same on-going issues.

My browser times out and reports CloudFlare is unable to reach nexious.com.  :(

Is your mining affected also? I have been in touch with cloudflare and it seems all issues are sorted now. Let me know otherwise please.

Working fine or me at the moment.
 :)


Edit - Nexious, just sent you a pm.

Thanks for reply.

Guys I'm happy to contribute 1 BTC in trying to help in finding that block so let me know.

I suggest we just donate the funds to Nexious and let him find a trusted member to run the group rental for us.

Hi jsp3cs15,

I have been renting hash here and there to bump up the total, I have also offered a 1 BTC bonus to the first block finder (maybe subsequent blocks also depending on how many miners we attract).
Im open to the idea if anyone wants to donate to rent hash, or they can rent the hash themselves?

You can use the Nexious donation address listed on the website (19w5R3YFLW2Z4ppFwcNEn5AfeS3xhiWaKD) and all proceedings will go towards renting hash, or we can get a trusted escrow or whatever you guys are happy with. Im open to all ideas at this stage to help Nexious grow, but sadly I think the first block has to be found before we attract any bigger miners.

Let me know what you all think :)

I Think the 1BTC first block finder bonus is a great idea. Whoever gets it , will be well deserved.

I try and put as much hash towards the pool as I can. I even rent from time to time to bump things up.
I'm not able to donate anything like as much as 1BTC to renting hash but like the idea of maybe having a rental address that is used just for rentals by Nexious or another trusted person . Maybe he could keep a tracker going on the stats page for rental donation and post updates when hash will be rented to show when, rented hash, and cost.  What are your thoughts?

Its getting colder by the day here in the UK and I've decided to break out the big guns, well.. its just an S1 , but its gonna sit full time on Nexious and also help keep my kitchen warm.  ;D

Its getting colder by the day here in the UK and I've decided to break out the big guns, well.. its just an S1 , but its gonna sit full time on Nexious and also help keep my kitchen warm.                                                                                                                                                                                       Я тoжe cижy c S 1 ,вчepa пpишлa пocылкa, зaмeнил cгopeвшyю плaтy, тaк чтo бyдy дoгoнять вac пo мepe вoзмoжнocти. ;D

Basic translation is that he has an S1 also now on the pool.

The S1 was such a good little workhorse, didn't want to get rid of them when I upgraded to S3's. I have another S1 that I'll dig out today, was thinking of maybe trying my luck solo mining with it (it can help keep another back room warm  :) )

Edit - I've also dug out some stick miners.
 Nexious - What would it take to open a solo port and show some simple stats on the web page. Maybe some smaller hash miners might want to join me for a small miner Lotto while the bigger mining rigs slog it out on the main pool.

Edit - Edit - Added a whopping 16GH of USB stick miners (8 sticks controlled by a RPi running MinePeon) to test out. I was really surprised how quick the VarDif on prt 3333 adjusted and they were all up and mining within a couple of minutes.

Nice to see some more miners coming onboard ;)

I am still playing/modifying a few things for a solo pool but it is coming soon! If people want do donate for hash rented I can do that, or we can find an escrow if people want. I can also provide statistics on what is rented/what is doing etc. Let me know how you want to proceed with that or not its all good!

on their own , we find in 2045 . I 'm thinking to give feet away slowly ... because the necessary money and the forecast is zero                                            пocмoтpи или пoпpoбyй oбpaтитcя мoжeт чтo пocoвeтyeт. http://www.mybtccoin.com/

Yes it seems at the current hashrate it may take a while to find a block, who knows we might get lucky!

Remember I am open to all ideas on ways we could entice new miners, a few people have asked for a solo pool with statistics so that is coming soon also :)

Its all about luck.

Talking of luck, took a look at my stick miners today,  Still running well on the VarDiff and a best of 3,224,509.

Don't go Spiker777 I need someone to join me on an S1 solo pool group.

Keep Calm and Carry On Mining.

Nice share for a stick miner itsnogood, im working on the solo pool I may pm you to do some tests when I get to that stage if your interested?

It really is a game of luck, but with a higher hashrate the chances are greater. So we need more miners ideally, im trying to spread the word and looking into advertising options at the moment.

Any time you need me to point some test hash just ask.

Okay awesome thanks! Give me a couple more days as im rather busy at the moment but ill pm you :)

Edit:

Sorry guys been rather busy with backend tweaks and real life job, solo pool is coming along nicely and will make an announcement soon with it!

I just created an account and started to mine using what ever BTC left on my mining rental account. Does this mean I am still eligible for 0% fees?

The main reason I asked is that, it shows on my dashboard as below that the pool fee is 1% which contradicts with what you wrote above.

https://minifora.eu/public/bfgminer/my_nexious_mining_dashboard_26Oct15_1245.png

This is the very reason I am trying your pool.

I found this inaccurate (or perhaps I misunderstood this) as I had to register and gave out my email address. Which part of the account setting is anonymous? Please explain.

Edited: add the reason of the question about the pool fee which contradicts with what has been claimed

Nexious has been manually adjusting the account fees to 0%. I'm sure it will be adjusted or you.

0% fees and a 1 BTC first block finder reward. Its got to be worth a try.

let the first block to be find!
than we can trust.
I have a couple of backup's to your pool ;D

Well... I am not sure about that. I have been mining on this pool for more than 32 hours, or 2 night times in New Zealand, but I have not seen any changes on my account as promised.

https://minifora.eu/public/bfgminer/my_nexious_mining_dashboard_27Oct15_2019.png

The people who have daily jobs usually very likely to do their side job at night. Perhaps he is really busy with his daily job as he previous wrote. But if he would be serious to provide every new miners with 0% fee before the pool gets a new block, I don't think that is very hard for him to automate that.

Perhaps he saw that my hash rate is too low for his target miners. Well... I can only afford to loose that much for trying. If he indeed had that in mind, i.e. catching the big fishes instead of small fishes like me, then I am wondering if his main intention of helping to decentralise the network is genuine. I am not complaining that he is trying to make profits out of his pool. That is perfectly fine. But if that would be indeed his main intention, then don't write about helping to decentralise the network. And I am not complaining about the 1% fee. That would be perfectly fine as well if he didn't make the promise.

My rental hashing is going to stop in about 2 hours. I don't think I will extend that or move my main miner to this pool which I initially planned to do for at least a month. The hash rate of my main miner is not much anyway. But I prefer to get a tiny amount of BTC instead of nothing.

Hi .anto.

I apologise for the delayed reply had to go away for my real job but am now back, can you pm me your username and I shall change your account to 0% fees :)

It has nothing to do with how big or small your hashrate anyone is welcome, and the 0% feed is something i am serious about.

Let me know if you have any more issues and I will try and sort them for you.

just added 1Th for this pool just for the fun :D

might add 3Th more later today when i got time to change it. slush pool is so fucked atm so seems like more fun to join this project

Welcome BannedDK!

I'll change over your account to 0% fees now, if there are any issues let me know.

any reason my miners are so unstable? they change hash rate alot between 250-450

they didnt do that on slush

Hello, and welcome BannedDK.

Are you mining to the VarDiff port 3333 ?

You could try one of the fixed Diff ports.

stratum.nexious.com:3334
•Fixed Diff: 512

stratum.nexious.com:3335
•Fixed Diff: 1024

stratum.nexious.com:3336
•Fixed Diff: 2048

yea used the vardiff, i could try one of the fixed ones. wich it better for antminer s3?

I have an S3 pointed to port 3333. You will need to leave it and it will settle down but you may find that the nature of VarDiff it will adjust.

I have also tried port 3334 (Fixed Diff: 512) and found that to be very stable.

Edit: Just logged on to my S3 and it shows a Diff of 1958 and an average hash of 454 GH/s. (This is on port 3333).
If you are looking at the worker stats on the Nexious web front end then it may look as though the hash rate is going up and down as it may  not be showing the average rate over the same set time.

I can have a look at tweaking the Vardiff a little so the variance swings aren't as big, but try a fixed port first to see if you get better results.

Let me know if you have any issues.

In case anyone cares the address this pool is mining to is 1GBo1f2tzVx5jScV9kJXPUP9RjvYXuNzV7

In case anyone cares the address this pool is mining to is 1GBo1f2tzVx5jScV9kJXPUP9RjvYXuNzV7

этo пoxoжe бoльшe вaш нoмep ;D

How about implementing PPS @ 2-2,5% fee?  :-*

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=854368.msg11149806#msg11149806
a 2.5% fee would be higher of course

Yeah... sorry to disappoint you torepia, but unless nexious has a very large bankroll or he feels like dumping a bunch of coins into the pool to make sure everyone is paid, chances are extremely good he's not going to implement any PPS.  It's too big a risk.  As kano pointed out, even with a bankroll of 250BTC in reserve, there's still over an 81% chance of bankruptcy even if the pool charges users 5% fee.

This is pretty much spot on, unfortunately I don't have he capital to fund the start up of a PPS pool and a few of 2.5% would just be too risky also hence why there aren't too many pools still around with that low fee for PPS if any.

Sorry but it's just not viable at this stage :(

Have you guys found your first block yet?

I see you mine monero as well! I wish you could merge mine that with BTC!

I like your site, It's well laid out!

Sadly no we haven't so the 1BTC bonus is still available :)

Thanks, hope you enjoy Nexious too.

100% understandable! ^^

Sorry torepia :( if I had the capital I would have already done it. So just PPLNS for now.

Today I received newsletter
" Hello spiker777,

Due to a bit of lack of interest of the 1BTC block finder bonus and rise in BTC price I have decided to run a promotion. For the next 7 days I am offering out of my own pocket a 5BTC bonus for the first Bitcoin block finder!! Along with 0% fees now is a great time to start mining at Nexious and have a chance at getting an extra 5BTC. This is only for the first Bitcoin block found and will run for the next 7 days. If no block is found in 7 days I will still honour the 1BTC bonus. After the first block is found the standard 1% fee will resume (unless you signed up during the 0% fee for life promotion). So let your friends and family know and let's get that first block!
Regards,

Nexious LLC

Your Premier

Mining Pool

"

I think that everyone reading this thread like this development.
If you're not in Nexious Mining Pool and you are reading this,then maybe it's time to join us!!!!

Thank you Spiker for posting that info. I hadn't looked at my emails for a while.

5 BTC is a massive incentive. I hope it will temp some of the bigger miners over.

Edit: Nexious - Its a great gesture and a lot of money out of your pocket. I think it goes to show how serious you are about this pool.

Is it just me or does the site say 0 speed for the pool hash rate? Hopefully that is not true with a 5 btc reward on a block find.

any news???

No :(

bitcoin site is down right or is it my miner

Hi Nexious,

Any news? Might be a good idea to update everyone.

Says it's still dead for me.

thebonenz,maybe not the right connection?

Sorry all I've been having issues trying to connect to the forum, but I have sent out news letters to all that have registered updating them on what is happening.

Nexious is now back up and running after a few headaches and a corrupted block chain. Re-indexing did not fix the issues so had to resync from the start. I have put some upgrades and a better redundancy plan in place to ensure this does not happen again.

Right now the 5BTC reward, is my last idea on trying to entice the larger miners over. It only lasts till the 15th of November so try your luck :) and if a block is found the finder is rewarded 5BTC then the 1% fee kicks in (unless your signed up during the zero fees for life promotion)

Any questions or issues let me know, and once again I apologise for the unexpected downtime!

come on there must be bigger miners!
I have 15 extra th/s for now chaeaper than bitcoinwisdom acspected payout!
Please help me find the block ;D

The big bonus and incentive is there, so let all your friends and mining buddy's know :)

We are currently hovering around 40TH/s so hopefully we can keep climbing!

Its good to see the pool back up and running. Better to iron out any problems now than later.

Ok, lets bust this first block quick make some BTC. Although maybe Nexious will be hoping its after the 15th.  ;)

I want to see a block as much as you guys do, yes after the 15th would be better for me financially but let's hope some miners come try their luck and maybe even score them some free Bitcoin :)

I am hopefully getting merge mining completed soon and added so everyone will also be able to get nmc and any other merge mine-able coin that is requested.

2 days of the promotion have now passed, 5 left to go! So if you want to potentially hit the jackpot and earn an extra 5BTC now is the time to mine :)

The solo pool is also coming along, sorry it has taken so long but other pressing matters have needed to be attended to first sorry :(

I may have mentioned this before but it would be quite cool to have a pool best share counter on the main dash to show the top share pulled. I know its a meaningless figure but it is quite interesting to see just how close we get. Like you say in the email, " 47824634221 which is close but not close enough!" :-)

I plan on adding a personal best share and a pool wide best share. They don't exactly mean anything more just for cosmetic and fun purposes :)

There are only 3 days left of the promotion to go now and sadly the interest isn't as big as I initially thought it would be so I thought I would try change things up a bit!

For the first block found 2BTC will go to the block finder and the remaining 4BTC will be split over the top 4 hash rates! So even if you aren't the block finder but your in the top 4 (based on hashrate at time of block found) you will get an extra 1BTC.

 Let me know what you all think, as this way the block finder (no matter how big or small hashrate you have) will earn extra and those bigger miners still get an extra incentive too! I will also be sending out some Christmas promotion ideas out soon too as Christmas is not far away!

Good luck all, and happy mining :)

Statistics gone mad
 :)

quick question: If the block finder is one of the top 4 miners, does the block finder then receive 3btc?  Or the block finder get 2btc and the next 4 highest hashrate miners receive 1btc each. 
Only asking because I'm currently sitting at #5.  itsnogood and I keep switching 4th/5th position.

Yes that is correct, so if you find a block (2BTC) and are in the top 4 for hashrate at time of block (1BTC) you would get 3BTC time is slowly running out so get mining :)

I tried to contribute again today with my a few GH of hashrates. But the access to the web site is really terrible up to now (19:38 CET). I hope the pool server is allright and my contributions are properly being counted. It looks allright though from my miners side.

Here is what I always get most of the time in accessing nexious.com.

https://minifora.eu/public/bfgminer/error_on_web_access_to_nexious.com_12Nov15_1938.png

EDITED: add screenshot from the browser

I can view Nexious fine, but have had someone else running into the cloudflare page but then started working for him again. The server looks like it is running fine but I will have a look into it for you now.

Thanks. But I think it is quite intermittent problem. Sometime I can access it, sometime I cannot. At the time I am writing this post, I got the problem again while it was fine 5 minutes ago.

Today I had also 3 times,but at the moment is fine

I seem to have located the issue, try again now and it should be more responsive. Mining not effected just the web front end.

I have also placed a NiceHash order for a few hours to help bump up the pool speed.

Status Antminer      stratum+tcp://stratum.nexious.com:3334
spiker777.777
Dead

I don't think so. I still got the error about 5 minutes ago after you posted your message as shown below. Even if I didn't get the error, the access to your web site is very slow.

https://minifora.eu/public/bfgminer/error_on_web_access_to_nexious.com_12Nov15_2224.png

Have tried different ports and all seems to be dead :( Hashrate is 0.0 GH/s and my workers are not displayed. However pool hashrate seems to be okay. Any clues about this issue?

I am having intermittent issues viewing the website as well.  Same as others.
My miners haven't jumped over to their backup pools so I assume all is well on that side.  I will check their stats page when I get home.

Now I'm also getting the CloudFlare page with Error 524 as well. Can you please have a look at these issues... :(

Is there anyway to change worker diff? I am only running 110GH and I have a diff of 615 and a bunch of rejects.

Are you mining to the VarDiff port 3333 ?

You could try one of the fixed Diff ports, maybe.

stratum.nexious.com:3334
•Fixed Diff: 512

or maybe higher..

stratum.nexious.com:3335
•Fixed Diff: 1024

..and see if that makes any difference.

EDIT: Oh, and another thing... CloudFlare ... its driving me mad  >:(

EDIT EDIT: and now my miners have just failed over.

:( site down

Sorry was tweaking cloudflare, should be nice and smooth now :)

rented some hash for the day.  come on block!

I wish you good luck BlInK311! May the Bitcoin gods be with you ;)

I guess Nexious is not for every one. I still get error 524 accessing the web site on these consecutive times

Even I don't have TH/s hashrates, this makes me wonder on the stability of Nexious pool. There is no other mean to get feedback if my miners are doing allright or not, a part from looking at the dashboard on the web site.

Can you pm me some more details please? I can access Nexious fine from here, and about 150TH/s is currently hashing as we speak. I may have to look into other ddos protection providers if this continues to be a problem for some people.

I am not sure what you expected from PM-ing you. The problem is quite clear to me from the screenshots I posted that it is on the connection from the CloudFlare in Vienna to Nexious.com server.

Yes and I'm trying to get to the bottom of it, as I am not having any issues and don't seem to have anyone else having any issues as we are now up to around 200TH/s so it is not effecting the mining side of things just the front end for you.

Edit
Are you able to try now and see if you have any issues?

Still getting the CloudFlare page every now and then. Can you please fix this issue completely because at times it gets me really frustrated...

Yes. I still get the exact same problem.

I  started to point my miners to your pool about 18 minutes ago. At the start, the access to your web site was quite fast. But it drastically became slower and slower until finally I got again the error 524 like shown below about 8 minutes ago.

https://minifora.eu/public/bfgminer/error_on_web_access_to_nexious.com_14Nov15_1018.png

Problems again. I have about 16TH/s on the pool but dashboard was only showing about 2TH/s. Now site is not loading once again :( Honestly I'm starting to get worried... ???

there is no catch,no connection!!!
 :(

You have a connection and work at the moment?

Yes my miners are still connected (alive status) to the nexious pool. However the miners' readings are totally wrong. Dashboard is showing 2TH/s instead od 16TH/s :-\

lucky,at least something

goodbye my Est
 :-\

Really hope admin has a backup plan for this issue because I rented some extra hashing power for the day and it would be really unfair that this hashing power is not recorded correctly at least in the backend. Would really appreciate an answer from admin... :(

Dose this happen when the estimate block count gets below 500?

My miners seem to be running smoothly on this pool.  None of them have fallen over to another pool in the last 2 days. (which I believe was due to unscheduled maintenance)

So this tells me the issues are on the front end (which I am seeing too).  I am sure these issues will be ironed out.  All new pools go through these learning curves, I'm sure. 

whats the front end, the part that handles incoming hash

No the front end is the website that displays statistics etc. The stratum server (that deals with mining/incoming hash, and other parts of the back end (payments, updating statistics, managing block finding etc) is having no issues what so ever).

The problem seems rather intermittent with the front end, as it only effects some people and only sometimes. As they could try again in 5 minutes and it works perfectly fine for them.

Port 3335 works great now and fixed my problem so if ports matter it is 3333 that was giving me problems for awhile. I'll send over 16th and see what happens,

Port 3333 is the vardiff port, if you have issues with it you can use a fixed difficulty port (listed on website and first post) some miners like a fixed diff port instead of vardiff.

Promotion Extention!

Sadly the elusive first block is yet to be found. Some may call me crazy but I have decided to extend the promotion for another 24 hours! Here's what you can win; 
 
5 BTC for the first block finder
1 BTC for the top 5 hashrates 
   
So get in quick because an offer like this won't come around again! Remember to let your friends and family know as the more miners we have the faster when can find that first block. 
 
Regards, 
Nexious

Almost 2K euro for charity? I am fan of technology also but it seems too much.for instance my pool has found two BTC blocks for almost a year now with constant 10-20 th and even though first one was pretty quick and I was expecting it will bring more users it was not the case.
But that are yours money after all....

Well I've spend nearly 1k already in server costs etc over the ~6 months Nexious has been running. I guess this is kind of a last attempt at attracting miners as nothing else seems to interest them. If this doesn't work then atleast I know I have tried nearly everything possible to fufill the dream of why Nexious was created (too try help decentralise the hash from the larger pools etc).

I have run the promotion for over a week and that hasn't brought in the desired amount of miners, so looks like no one will take up the offer anyway.

Once again, sorry,but I write using the translator from Russian to English

I think you miscalculated the most important factor in starting a new pool, that is to gain the trust. I am not sure myself how to easily get that, because if I would know that I would start my own pool. You have tried to gain that by providing a great front end, but it seems that is not enough as there are still something wrong on its background infrastructures. Your pool has much better front end than for instance http://solo.ckpool.org, but they gained more trust from the miners. So perhaps great front end does not really matter here, and in your case I think that only hinders the miners in trusting your pool.

From what I have observed, now a days the pools that regularly find new block at least 1 block a day have above 1 PH/s total hashrate. And the contributors on the pools that found the new blocks mostly have above 100 TH/s hashrates. So I think either you have to wait for much longer time and hope that the current miners still stay on your pool, or you have to invest much more in order to reach that level of hashrate by renting it.

Mining fun at Nexious

The first block is really that elusive and has yet to be found. The original promotion has ended but I'm that crazy to introduce another one!

The 5BTC block finder bonus is here to stay, but now we have a 20% bonus for all miners who have mined before the first block!

On your mining dashboard under est. earnings there is now a "Bonus" statistic. This is the bonus amount of BTC you would earn if a block was found right now! The best part of all this promotion does not have a time limit and is available until the first block is found :)

I am looking into intermittent issues with the front end, but it doesn't seem to be problem for everyone. Please note this does not effect your shares or mining. Good luck and happy mining all!

I am currently posting from my phone and will reply to messages/pm's when I get to my computer.

One must face the hard facts - there are almost no miners left to attract. Less than 5% of the network is now miners that can actually choose a pool of their own. The bulk of the hashrate is from large farms that have zero interest in moving their hashrate. Trying to attract hashrate from the remaining miners who are loyal to their chosen pool - often for reasons that make no sense apart from the fact that they've always mined there and think it's somehow good - is virtually impossible. Temporary cloud miners renting hashrate at a virtual perpetual loss is of no usefulness to long term pool hashrate. Thus the market for extra pools is virtually non-existent. There is no sign that this is improving with time, only getting worse.

I rented a ton of hash and pointed it at your pool mainly due to the bonus you offered.

Tried 3 times and I never got the hash to start.

I pointed two s-7s they would not work . So here is the deal if you can't get the pool to work why should I bother.

I can either take a shot with ck pool and win a block or I can go to f2pool for certain income.

If some one is paying top dollar for renting I can point at nice hash.

Now if the rentals had worked I would have mined with really solid hash.

Some advice make the pool work or stop .

I totally agree with your comment.

I was suggesting to rent the hashrate for the main objective of getting the first block for this pool. I am quite sure that the admin already realised by now that he is in loss position. But I think he and some of the miners on this pool including me :) still hope that thing might be different after the first block is found, even the chance for that is quite low with only below 40 TH/s pool total hashrate.

I'm not sure what issue you were having and haven't had any messages from you so wasn't aware you were having issues. I have rented hash from NiceHash/WestHash and miningrigrentals also with no problems (some rentals worked better on the fixed ports)

There are currently over 40 miners mining at the moment and don't see any issues. Have you set your worker information in your account settings etc?

Yes you have a valid point -ck, maybe I am the only one that has an issue with these larger pools getting larger and gaining a huge percentage of the network. Or pools that spv mine and the likes. Yes Nexious may fail on the ideas it was founded on but atleast I can go to sleep at night knowing I've tried to make a difference.

It saddens me but I guess everyone has to face the music eventually.

Don't make it sound like I'm happy about the situation. I fucking hate it, and I continue to do what I can, but I'm a realist.

I also never had any issues to connect this pool on nicehash. Additionally, I also have two S5's running on this pool without any issues whatsoever. Hope you can solve your connection issues so you can help us find the first block on this pool... :)

Front end connection problems from CloudFlare London . Still hashing OK from the miner side.

EDIT: Can now connect.

EDIT : EDIT: Spoke too soon. CloudFlare  London reporting website is offline. Miners still connected and mining OK.

Hmmm, its back again. Maybe its just gonna be one of those days.

yeah this sounds like what happened to me.. And I said ffff it.

So after typing that I went back to the pool and now I can't get on the site .  will try again.

and I am running 50th rental waiting to see  if it works.

so far nothing zip nada

so for the sake of argument  give me 1 minute to screen shot it

so what is wrong?

https://i.imgur.com/4fdOG2t.png

and to follow uo for the third time I have been canceled.

Shouldn't the URL be stratum+tcp://stratum.nexious.com:3333, instead of stratum+tcp://nexious.com:3333?

did that way twice,but there is one last way for me to do it

 now working  on nicehash  showing 62th



 the  4 cancels cost me 0.0004.

but    pool now has only 22th   .  so still seems wrong

here is nicehash end

https://i.imgur.com/wuco1os.png

finally working.  lost due to cancels .0004

pool now has over 70th most is mine.

And whats new I went to enter a payment addy.

it refused the pin.

it refused to let me change the pin

it locked me out

and I am still waiting for an email to tell me what to do to fix this.


So I cancelled the rented hash and my advice is don't mine here.

As the website is a fucking disaster.

I will post when they send an email to fix the lock out.

I have had no trouble with nicehash rentals on this pool but have had trouble connecting from MRR.
My last rental from MMR would not connect to the pool so I switched to failover pool and let that run for a while then switched back to this pool and it connected fine.
No idea what might be causing these connect problems but was more stable before (could it be a cloudflare problem or is that just protecting the front end server?).

Well the nicehash issue was caused because the pool does not auto add your workers you must name them.

but nicehash allowed order to start then cancelled it.

I try 4 or 5 combos finally figured out how to get an order started.

50th for 10 hours.   so I figured better double check payment address.  is was blank went to add one said I had the wrong pin  went to re set pin and

it did not allow it locked me out.

went to email no email.

went to spam found email

at this point went back to site said my pin is wrong and won't let me reset so it can go fuck itself.

I have other things to do.   I will spend elsewhere.

I will give it a negative trust later if I can't fix it as I now have lost about 0.01 btc jerking around trying to help the pool

There seems to be no action on the issues on the web site that I raised. There are just a few miners on this pool, and its performance is already this terrible. It will be rendered useless when hundreds of miners trying to access it. Or perhaps it would not reach a hundred users due to this performance.

I noticed that the slowest access which has high chance to get error 524 is by clicking "Detailed Statistics" --> "Pool". I think this is due to over-protected (against DDoS attack) and trying to have more control over the users. It will be more smoother when users do not need to register and just use an address to mine on. So no need for password, pin number, email address, etc.

yeah full of pretty stuff and all of it can go wrong.

well not much wasted here on my part.


but I would not recommend this site.

A simple pin re set to my email and I get locked out.

I am glad I double checked my btc addy and my pin.  at least the name and password are still working.  But I don't have confidence in the op's ability to run the pool.

Well, I just pointed an old S3 at it to see how things go - 2 minutes later the site went down  :P

Sorry for the slight downtime of roughly 15 minutes, I also updated Bitcoin to 0.11.2 and migrated to a more high performance server. Issues seem to be resolved with connectivity with the testing I have done.

Philipma1957 I apologise for the issue should had, I noticed you had the wrong stratum url and yes you need to create workers for your account. I saw that you had 70TH/s so it was mining correctly once you had changed that. You may need to wait 10-15 minutes for your dashboard as it is an average over 24 hours and needs to build up.

I also checked your account and see that it is unlocked now, you also do not need to type your pin in to originally set your BTC address. If you have any more issues or suggestions please don't hesitate to pm me.

why was bitcoinafflilate network benig bashed so hard?
and this is not a scam?
can this be checked??
what if a block is found and nobody gets paid is the 5 btc bonus allready in escrow?
I'm almost owend 1 btc so i'm conserend and not mining here anymore.

20% bonus, 5 btc block finder bonus, anon user.......

where are all the scam callers when you need them ???

How do you figure you're "owed"?  This is not a PPS pool.  You aren't owed a damn thing until the pool finds a block, at which point you are paid for the number of shares you have at that time.  Hence PPLNS: paid per last N shares.  I don't know what the N window is here for Nexious, but your shares are only good for that time frame.  If a block hasn't been found within that N time frame, then those shares don't get paid.

maby i put in in the wrong words but my estimated earnings is almost 1 btc.

is the 5 btc bonus in escrow?

I don't have a clue if Nexious put the 5BTC in escrow or not.  He'd have to answer you there :).

Also, I'm not sure how accurate Nexious.com estimated earnings stats are.  I mined here for very little time back when it first opened and I still show an expected 0.0128BTC payout.  Then again, they likely are accurate since the N value has probably not yet passed and my shares are still valid.

In any case, if and when this pool finds a block, you'd get the value your shares are worth.  If you aren't paid out, then you can let the scam accusations fly.  That's what happened with BAN.  Accusations all over the place about some rigged S3 giveaway, and payments not made to miners.  That pool's model was flawed from the get go, and a lot of miners suffered for it.

There has been quite a bit of negativity around here.  We should be supporting new pools that help decentralize and keep bitcoin alive.

Yes there have been some issues with the webpage connections, but it seems Nexious has updated their webserver late yesterday and I have not had any issues yet today.  I also want to state that there hasn't seemed to be any backend issues through all of this.  This great news and shows that Nexious has some idea about what he is doing.

I have a bunch of shares here and cant wait for me or someone else to find the first block.

The questions about the 5 BTC being in escrow is a decent question.  I haven't thought about that, but it definitely would show more dedication and trustworthiness. 

philipma - your initial issue came down to not having your worker set.  Yes this is a little inconvenient because a bunch of other pools don't require this, but it is what it is.  As far as setting your payout address, yes a little inconvenient with the pin# but I am sure Nexious thanks you for finding these issues and reporting them so he could address it.

I expect new pools to have some issues off the bat and for it to take a few days to determine the issues and resolve them.  I support small pools and will be keeping some hash here.

LETS FIND THAT FIRST BLOCK!!!

Just for fun I threw 100TH/s here for the next day and a half or so.  Figured it worth the gamble :).

Edit: by the way, I had absolutely no issues getting my NH order up and running.  Sorry for the problems you had with yours, Phil.

pin# is still broken can't re set it

Well... according to the pool, I found the first block!  WOOT!

Bravo!!! ;)

Just an hour and a half into a 100TH/s rental, I found the first block for nexious.com.  Guess the gamble paid off ;).  Nexious' first block is 384051.

Hmmm... and now the pool website shows as unavailable.  Well... let's hope that gets sorted quickly.  Miners still show they're hashing away, so it's likely just a front end problem.

EDIT: actually, now the miners are showing the pool as dead.  That's not a good sign.  First block found and the pool's website goes dark and the miners can't connect.

First let me say WELL DONE, first block to jonnybravo0311.
But... and here comes the downer... What has happened to the web site???

Not sure what to think. I hope this is just another problem with cloudflare and not anything sinister.
update: My miners have failed over as well.

Can others check

My miners failed over as well. I have a very bad feeling about all this. I really hope I am wrong...  :-\

Just to add to the drama - any emails sent to support@nexious.com are getting bounced.


Not sure if that address ever accepted mail in the first place, but since I've received a number of promotional emails from it, I thought I'd try emailing it back.

I previously replied to a couple of emails from Nexious and never received such error in return. I guess noone will get anything back from this pool :(

Well its not looking good.  :(

Come on Nexious prove us wrong.

Nobody's present in the IRC channel either: #Nexious

I'm there... some user Torepia and Luke-Jr (not sure if that's the same one as here on the forums, but I doubt it is... why he'd be hanging around in a pool channel).

Congrats johnnybravo for the block find!!!  

Hey Nexious, don't make me look like an idiot for trying to support you and your new pool.  Lets get the pool back up and running.  And lets see those payouts!!!  

Woot Woot.

Edit: saving woot woot until payments have been made as suggested by itsnogood

First of all, congratulation to jonnybravo0311 for finding the first ever block for this pool.

If we kept thinking positive, I think we can assume that the payment to the miners of this pool is being done manually as the transaction only goes to a single address, i.e. 1GBo1f2tzVx5jScV9kJXPUP9RjvYXuNzV7 (https://blockchain.info/address/1GBo1f2tzVx5jScV9kJXPUP9RjvYXuNzV7). And as this is a new pool, we can also assume that there is a problem on the setup as the admin has no experience yet in managing the payment. I really hope that is really the case.

On a side note, I am wondering why no pool (as far as I know it) explains in detail on how the payment is actually being done. As far as I know, some pools, e.g. eligius, automatically distribute the coin to the miners. Some pools, e.g. antpool, pay that manually. What is the indication that a pool do it automatically or manually? Is there any information related to this?

You might want to save the "Woot Woot" till the payouts been made.

Actually most pools work like this one.  The exceptions are p2pool and Eligius where the coinbase transaction is broken down into the addresses receiving the block reward.

The typical operation is for the BTC reward to go to a single address, which in this pool's case is 1GBo1f2tzVx5jScV9kJXPUP9RjvYXuNzV7.  How the coins are distributed depends on the payout scheme.  Here it's PPLNS, which is actually unfortunate because I found the block so quickly after starting, I didn't have many shares to pay.  Those miners who have been here longer and have more shares than I did when the block was found would actually make more BTC than I will.  The nice thing is that those shares are valid for however long the N value is in the pool.

When I found the block, the last time I had looked at the pool stats it showed about a 53% round - which is very nice.  It means that it took about half as many shares as expected to find the block.  That's the benefit of PPLNS pools - the more luck the pool has, the longer your shares continue to get paid.  More blocks, means more BTC for you.

Very suspicious behaviour, I suspect users should be readying their pitchforks right about now  :-\

I'm surprised the torches aren't already lit and the mob already running through the town screaming "Burn the witch!!!"

nice!


so I  get about a 6 usd payout .




https://blockchain.info/address/1GBo1f2tzVx5jScV9kJXPUP9RjvYXuNzV7


I hope  for jonny's sake it all works out.

let us know.

Thanks for your explanation. About the N value of this pool, it was mentioned before as below.

Lol, he says he updated Bitcoin to 0.11.2 yet produces a v3 block (https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/block/000000000000000003014d996fb435fa513a092cb86582d9f5954cea15ae6dd9)(0.11.2 produces v4 blocks).

jonnybravo0311

 I will mine in your honor for 24 hours if this is a bust for you.



http://solo.ckpool.org/users/1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje

sad part is if he is a runner it only helps pools like f2pool grow larger.

wait... was he hoping someone hit and then run off with the 25BTC? Curious... I was gonna try my solo set up on this but I decided not to, glad...
Jacob

Thanks, Phil.  I'll let everyone know if this works out or not.  Since everything is still dark, I'm not sure it will.  Nexious has sure put a lot of effort in to this thing if it does indeed turn out to be bad and he runs.  I'm certainly giving him the benefit of the doubt for now.  Innocent until proven guilty, and all that.

If it doesn't work out, maybe I'll open up my own pool (I already run my own p2pool node and have a private unomp BTC pool that a couple of friends point hash to).

  maybe not sure if that is the case.

I guess we should have all done this. Like I said

 Instead others just went back and kept mining.  He never allowed me to put in a proper payment address or a proper pin.  which is why I cancelled.  thank goodness I double chacked

I actually never had any problems with the setup... according to the site (when it was up) I was user number 11 to register.  I put in my payment address and changed my profile without issue.  I had previously only pointed a small bit of hash here to play around a few times and that was recorded just fine.  I figured I'd gamble with 100TH/s on the hope that I found the block and got the reward.  Well, I found the block very early in my rental - had only used 1.5 hours of it.  Once I found the block, I canceled the order and pointed the remaining back to my own pool, where it is still happily hashing away.

EDIT: looking at Nexious' profile, his last activity on the forum was about 15 minutes prior to me finding the block... like I wrote earlier, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt for now.  Innocent until proven guilty.  He could be at work.  No clue.  Now, if things remain dark and he doesn't show back up around here... and the coins in the pool's address get spent and nobody gets a payment... yeah, then it's time for the pitchforks and burning oil.

To Mr Bravo,
Bravo you found the block!
At least now we will know whether or not not this was real or scam.
I lost faith after the endless 5 BTC bonus extensions en 20% bonus for everyone!
He could not even hash at his own pool because of sever costs.

Come on even BAN did not offer anything more than 10% and miner giveaways at the start to attract miners which probably was not a real scam.

unlike this is appearing to be..... >:(

still hoping for the best but thing ain't looking good for us :(

Hopefully it is just something broken besides the  communication. His Litecoin pool and website are also down at the moment. Hopefully he comes back and sheds some light on the subject.

Well the only light being shed at the moment is that from the burning torches.  ;)

Good night to you all. I hope for some better news when I check in the morning.

Wait till the block matures (101 confirmations) and then you'll see what he does with the money  ::)

https://blockchain.info/address/1GBo1f2tzVx5jScV9kJXPUP9RjvYXuNzV7

ck it is not a far stretch to see it go:by by.

That's exactly what I'm waiting for prior to screaming scam.  As soon as those coins move we will know his intentions.

at least you did not drop 2 or 3 btc in rentals.

the chances it is gone are next to certain.

25 coins + 5 coins + 20% = 35 coins.

you would be 5 + your earnings plus 20 % of the earnings.  others lost a lot as they may have rented quite a bit.

He is almost certainly a POS.

I found his syntax and writing style similar to a guy a while back but that one never hit a block and closed down the pool.

I would need to go back and look for it give me a few minutes.

Well, from my own perspective, I spent nearly nothing.  100TH/s rental from NH at .0075BTC/TH.  I had it up and running for about an hour and a half before the block was found, so it only cost me about 0.045BTC.  I feel for the other miners who have spent considerably more time and coin trying to make this pool work.  I hope we're all wrong.  65 more confirmations to go.

realistically he is gone.

If I was running a pool and all my gear went down I would get to a place to leave a message here. He is not doing that.

So  the best hope is he had an accident and is getting medical treatment thus no pc.  He gets better and goes to a pc and leaves a message here.

Is that More likely then he ran  off with 25 coins ,  place your bets.

remember he promised 5 coin bonus and 20% bonus  for all miners under the first block  so he owes 35 coins not the 25 for the block.

Mining fun at Nexious

The first block is really that elusive and has yet to be found. The original promotion has ended but I'm that crazy to introduce another one!

The 5BTC block finder bonus is here to stay, but now we have a 20% bonus for all miners who have mined before the first block!

On your mining dashboard under est. earnings there is now a "Bonus" statistic. This is the bonus amount of BTC you would earn if a block was found right now! The best part of all this promotion does not have a time limit and is available until the first block is found Smiley

I am looking into intermittent issues with the front end, but it doesn't seem to be problem for everyone. Please note this does not effect your shares or mining. Good luck and happy mining all!

I am currently posting from my phone and will reply to messages/pm's when I get to my computer.


Seems he doesn't the problem know what's going on here, and respond from your phone,but it looks like hope is fading.

Time well tell. I only recently threw a little bit of power here just to help out a small pool. If this does turn out to be a scam, there are other small pools that are proven honest and could use some more miners.

I hope you get your bonus JonnyB.

I am really curious about this.

It is understandable to me that he will distribute the 25 BTC to all miners after the reward is matured. But if the guy was really honest on his main intention then by now he should have already paid 5 BTC to jonnybravo0311, 5 BTC to the top 5 miners, 20% bonus to all miners according to their shares, as that is what he said he would take from his own pocket.

Any good HONEST pools you can suggest? I would prefer to join a small pool and help there than go with the big ones like most people do. Thanks xZork...

Kano/CKPool is rock solid and run by some knowledgable and trustworthy guys:

http://kano.is/ (http://kano.is/).

I think its the best one going right now. So many options, simple, reliable, good stats page, *trustworthy*, and I found a 3rd party Android app to monitor miners from the pool side through API.

Thanks for the info formula97. I will definitely give it a try :)

Well... 5 more confirmations and still not a peep out of Nexious.  The site and pool are still dark.  Emails are still bounced.  It's not looking good.

100 confirms made

https://blockchain.info/address/1GBo1f2tzVx5jScV9kJXPUP9RjvYXuNzV7



@eghigo


my pools are

http://solo.ckpool.org/
https://www.f2pool.com/
https://www.nicehash.com/
https://bitminter.com/
https://www.kano.is/


they pay 

I really hope this turns out good. But all signs are pointing the wrong direction. Is there any way to block the transaction or recover the block if the owner doesn't pay? I am only out .3 or .4 but for people who have been mining the whole time or the ones that rented major hash   just seems unjust to say the least.

No, there is no way to block anything.  Assuming that Nexious owns the private key for the pool's mining address, he can do whatever he wants with those coins.  Nothing we can do to prevent it.

So far the coins haven't moved.

So if he does walk I mean this is gotta be on of the longest scams I have seen. ( but I haven't been around long either). But would any one know what the cost would be keep the pool and website up and running this long? Hopefully the cost out weighed prise.

Did any one know his name location anything? All his website info is guarded by who is guard or whatever.

the only way this turns out okay is

I hit this in the next day or so

 http://solo.ckpool.org/users/1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje


I would split it with miners here  and it would be ½ for me and the rest for the ones robbed by nexious.

It is unlikely that nexious will return  and it is unlikely I will hit a block with the one s-7 mining .

I would think though that the odds of me hitting the block are better then the odds of nexious paying off 35 btc.


He could have run the scam with a single pc owed and internet he was paying for. .

I never saw a real sign of ddos protection services.

I have  pretty fast internet my cost 50 a month  so July to Nov = 5 x 50 = 250 usd.
 power for a good pc 100 watts
 so 360 kwatts = 36 bucks

cost 286  plus a pc  net 25 coins = 8k

what did software cost?  well many pools have died and could have sold him a package for some coin.

or an old pool owner could have done this.

my radar went up when I had the pin issue.  I had really good records on the original setup.

 ie i knew my pin
I knew my payment address.

When I went to run this a month ago it could not run on nicehash. (lucky for me)

buy a screenshot and pdf'd that my btc addy was entered correctly along with a pin.

When i posted a day or two saying I would try again.  I finally got it to hash. I thought let me check the pin and the btc addy as i think this will hit soon.  so what happened no btc addy and no pin  .

I cancelled the hash purchased.  He did not give me support to  put in a btc addy or a pin.  None of the shit worked.
The best thing that happened is jonny hit the block.
If this went on for more time people would have lost more.

Thanks philipma1957 for the info. I'm also on f2pool and nicehash. Just created an account to try kano. Have to be very careful in our choices (lost over 1BTC on nexious) :(

sorry for your loss.

Maybe he's looking for additional Finance to be paid

Sorry for your loss.  The only entry in Phil's list I don't agree with is f2pool.  Yes, they pay.  That much is undeniable.  However, they use crap software and SPV mining, which has led to a fork in the chain previously.

Still no movement of the coins...

Yes it's true what you're saying about f2pool but at least they have always paid. And to be honest, it's one of the pools that pay higher rates. So as long as they pay it is good for me on these circumstances :/

Higher rates?  No.  They are a PPS pool that charges 4% fee.  Yes, they give you some alt coins to try and mitigate that fee, but at the end of it, you're never going to make expected values.  On the other hand, if you look at kano.is, since inception he's running at over 100% luck.  It's PPLNS, so there will be times when you make less than expected; however, if you look at the long term, you've made more than expected.

P2Pool has also not been mentioned.  I've been running a thread for the past year showing its performance with an S3.  I've got a couple weeks of data to catch up on, but as of my last update, p2pool has made over 98% of expectations since 12/26 of last year.

I have compared f2pool, antpool, slush pool and nicehash for 2 weeks each (maybe not long enough) with an S5 and at the end f2pool had the biggest income for me. That's the reason I said f2pool has the highest rate. However, maybe comparing on a longer period of time, PPLNS may produce a better income like you are saying...

It appeared he was using Microsoft's cloud for his server and mailgun.org for his email. Either of those places should have more info on him, including his payment info, that may help track him down. Just in case anyone is interested.

The longer this goes the more likely it was a scam. Its also possible he got hacked and doesn't own the private key with that coin on it, among other possibilities. The timing of the disappearance and the simultaneous disconnection of other services suggests scam. Considering how much effort he put into the scam it is likely he's obfuscated his information on those sites as well.

I'd just like to point out that the entire premise of this pool was faulty. There are fair and trusted pools that already "help decentralize the network" including kano.is. The problem isn't that there aren't pools, the problem is that there are nearsighted people who have no patience and would rather mine at a larger pool in order to decrease their variance. I'd love to see people flock to a pool like Kano.is so it was hitting blocks more regularly. That's really all that is necessary for many people to bring their hash back from the large PPS pools. A pool like Nexious was harming rather than helping in this regard.

Let's put it this way... with PPS (f2pool) you absolutely can NEVER make above expectations because of the way the payout scheme works.  With PPLNS (kano.is, p2pool, etc) you have the POSSIBILITY of making more than expectations.  You also have the POSSIBILITY of making less.

PPS puts all risk on the pool operator, because miners will get paid for submitted shares regardless of whether or not the pool finds a block.  That's why any PPS pool charges fees - to help mitigate some of that risk.

PPLNS transfers risk to miners.  You are only paid for N shares, regardless of how long it took the pool to find a block.

Yeah, I had already looked into the details.  He was running on Azure.  Nexious.com in reality pointed to nexious.cloudapp.net, which is MS Azure.  I tend to agree that the simultaneous disconnection of all services (pool, site, email) does not look good in any way at all.  At first I was wondering if he had an issue on his server... maybe something screwed up when the block was found.  However, since we had started on the next block without any problem, that theory doesn't hold much weight.

I don't agree with your assertion that a new pool is a problem.  Let's face it, last year kano.is was a new pool.  Yes, it's very well run and maintained by one of the two guys responsible for writing the code in virtually every BTC miner available.  I have nothing but respect for the work kano and -ck have done and continue to do.  However, people flocking to kano.is does exactly what you're stating is the problem: centralizing the hash on a single pool.  Currently it's AntPool and f2pool.  Take their hash and point it at kano and you've still only got a single pool.  Of course, I trust kano's pool far more than either AntPool or f2pool, but that doesn't alter the fact that just pointing a ton of hash at a single pool is dangerous.  Remember when ghash.io had more than 50% of the global hash rate?

Yes, I completely agree with what you're saying jonnybravo0311. In fact I have one S5 on f2pool to always have a stable income while the other miners are used on other PPLNS pools.

And by any chance, have you heard of the BitClub Network (BitClub Pool). They look to be "trustworthy" but would like to have a more expert opinion from someone who heard about them :)

Just checking back in. I was hoping to see some good news.

I mine at Kano pool. Its all about trust and I think kano has earned that.

When I first got into mining I did a lot of calculations on payment methods and my conclusion was that Eclipse's DGM at 0% fee was the best compromise. I'm not going to pull all the math out again because it isn't relevant. What is relevant is the trust you have for the operator, which killed Eclipse. With f2pool, antpool, and btcc PPS you have a maximum of two days loss if they skip a payment and then fail. That's relatively little risk, so they are easier to trust. A larger pool that can prove itself by making regular and frequent payouts is also easier to trust. Its harder to trust a pool with a lower hash rate simply because you are paid less frequently. A pool like kano.is can go multiple days without a block / payment and then if the pool were to fail you would have a loss of multiple days of hash. Consider the way HHTT shut down. That was a good pool and honest, but people still perceived that they lost something in the end.

The only reason anyone could have used logic to mine here was by weighing the risk to the reward. The first block finder reward was the reward that balanced out the risk for some, and there were also promises of extra payments for others in the top however many miners. Aside from that there was too much risk to mine here.

You can make arguments against the Chinese pools all day, fees, etc, but in the end people are going to trust them more than low hash rate pools simply because of the lower risk. It is more than variance that factors in. Nexious is a case in point.

BTW, even if the operator comes back with some kind of explanation at this point and pays the miners out, it would not be logical to continue mining at this pool. The risk of the pool's stability and dependence on the operator has been proven too great. The pool is dead.

There's a huge difference between a newbie and someone like Kano and ck putting together a pool and code. Those two are able to be completely trusted due to their involvement in the community. We already trust cgminer, etc. It's not a fair comparison.

We're in no danger of kano's pool taking over the world. That's crazy talk. Antpool exists to run Bitmain's farm, and so long as it and Bitfury exist, there's plenty of balance. Kano could grow to 50 PH and we'd still have a stable distribution.

look bottom line is do you know where a pool owner lives?

Most of us don't.

Read this:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1152263.0

Mine there at your peril.

Wow... is still for real?  >:(

 this really look like it! This guy run out with my 1btc payout! no way :(

From WHOIS on the domain name:

Domain Name: NEXIOUS.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1948593920_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.enom.com
Registrar URL: www.enom.com
Updated Date: 2015-07-23T01:02:21.00Z
Creation Date: 2015-07-23T02:55:00.00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-07-23T02:55:00.00Z
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Registrar IANA ID: 48
Reseller: NAMECHEAP.COM
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: WHOISGUARD PROTECTED
Registrant Organization: WHOISGUARD, INC.
Registrant Street: P.O. BOX 0823-03411
Registrant City: PANAMA
Registrant State/Province: PANAMA
Registrant Postal Code: 00000
Registrant Country: PA
Registrant Phone: +507.8365503
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +51.17057182
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: 5A5F7E81DB214E6498C2502C8327DFEB.PROTECT@WHOISGUARD.COM
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: WHOISGUARD PROTECTED
Admin Organization: WHOISGUARD, INC.
Admin Street: P.O. BOX 0823-03411
Admin City: PANAMA
Admin State/Province: PANAMA
Admin Postal Code: 00000
Admin Country: PA
Admin Phone: +507.8365503
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax: +51.17057182
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: 5A5F7E81DB214E6498C2502C8327DFEB.PROTECT@WHOISGUARD.COM
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: WHOISGUARD PROTECTED
Tech Organization: WHOISGUARD, INC.
Tech Street: P.O. BOX 0823-03411
Tech City: PANAMA
Tech State/Province: PANAMA
Tech Postal Code: 00000
Tech Country: PA
Tech Phone: +507.8365503
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax: +51.17057182
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: 5A5F7E81DB214E6498C2502C8327DFEB.PROTECT@WHOISGUARD.COM
Name Server: DAVE.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM
Name Server: LADY.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM
DNSSEC: unSigned
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@enom.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4252982646
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/
Last update of WHOIS database: 2015-07-23T01:02:21.00Z


If anyone would like his details, you can contact the abuse part and they will disclose the data (those WHOIS information hiders are not effective) But it was pointed at cloudfare also.

http://www.whoisguard.com/contact-us.asp if shit hits the fan and he does a runner if someone wished to persue further, if he has done a runner. If the coins move and no contact from him and someone wishes to persue him for their losses, this is how to get his actual details. Seems though that it was pointed at cloudfare nameservers.

Pinging the domain name points to these IP details:

General IP Information



IP:
107.27.190.53

Decimal:
1796980277

Hostname:
107.27.190.53

ASN:
3651

ISP:
Sprint PCS

Organization:
Sprint PCS

Services:
None detected

Type:
Wireless Broadband

Assignment:
Static IP

Blacklist:
 

Geolocation Information


Continent:
North America

Country:
United States us flag  

State/Region:
Illinois

City:
Chicago

Latitude:
41.8826  (41° 52′ 57.36″ N)

Longitude:
-87.6292  (87° 37′ 45.12″ W)

Postal Code:
60602

Obviously it wont have the location fully, but time to work out what ISP it is. Searching whois, its a home IP. Sprint wireless: 107.27.190.53


NetRange:       107.24.0.0 - 107.63.255.255
CIDR:           107.32.0.0/11, 107.24.0.0/13
NetName:        SPRINT-WIRELESS

NetHandle:      NET-107-24-0-0-1
Parent:         NET107 (NET-107-0-0-0-0)
NetType:        Direct Allocation
OriginAS:      
Organization:   Sprint Communications, Inc. (SPRIN-86)
RegDate:        2010-11-10
Updated:        2012-03-02
Comment:        PLEASE REPORT ABUSE ISSUES TO mobileabuse@sprint.com.
Comment:        Members of Law Enforcement should contact Sprint Corporate Security Subpoena
Comment:        Compliance and Law Enforcement Assistance at 1-800-877-7330 and press option 1
Comment:        for assistance.
Ref:            http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-107-24-0-0-1

This is his static IP as of 16:05 GMT 18/11/2015 107.27.190.53 if you wish to report to ISP also if he does a runner. But it has been hosted on a home connection, sprint wireless. this is what came up when I pinged nexious.com

Jacob

Adios my dear mining profit.

With all this not only he owes 25+10 btc overall. All the miners will never come back,even if he show up now. he had a good start tho :( Block at 53dif...

so bad.. so so bad.

Pinging which domain name?  when I ping nexious.com, I get a completely different IP address:

If you look at the underlying details (try pinging stratum.nexious.com), you'll get the following:
That bit... nexious.cloudapp.net ... is what shows he's running on MS Azure.  Pinging nexious.cloudapp.net shows you the same results as pinging stratum.nexious.com.

I'd like to know how you got the IP address you did, and how you further dove into the details about finding it to be a Sprint PCS-owned ISP.  Share, please :)

EDIT: coins still haven't moved.

I pinged the  IP, 104.27.190.53 pinging nexious.com gave me that IP I did not ping the stratum one so that is the base domain name not a subdomain - checked at whatismyipaddress.com and the whois showed was the IP range and provider. If you search the whois database with the IP it will give you all the details on whos it is. If he does a runner you can get the details of him from the WHOIS guard provider by contacting its abuse, that would give you the address and phone number. The forum would also have his real IP if he didn't proxy. His address details provided he was careless would be in the whoisguard and i have found it trivial in the past to have the whois protection services release details. Coins still not moved? If he has indeed run off with $10,000 + then if anyone who mined there is out enough money, I didn't feel guilty about leaving the paper trail of maybe tracking him down to report him or do whatever. This is IF he is guilty, anything can happen so I don't want to point fingers just yet until those coins move without anyone being paid or consulted.

Search any IP in WHOIS and you can get the provider etc.  If you have the time the IP was assigned to that person its enough to report them to ISP, or in the case of thefts, the police or if you wish to take it further and you are able to get an address from whoisguard and validate it as the persons, they can be open to a suit if you have enough evidence, etc. If he has done a runner it sounds like he tried to get everyone to find a block for him then run with the cash, hed be quids in then. But innocent until proven guilty, as he could be ill, or whatever, but I don't get a good vibe from it.

Jacob

Thanks for the advice. Will definitely stay away :)

According to his post below, he lives in New Zealand.

hmmmm maybe contact whoisguard and then see what they have on file.

I had looked up the IP addresses... the one I get from pinging nexious.com is cloud flare in San Fran.  The cloudapp.net IP address I get shows MS in San Fran as well.  That's why I asked you how you got the details you did :).

And the coins still haven't moved...

#
# The following results may also be obtained via:
# http://whois.arin.net/rest/nets;q=104.27.190.53?showDetails=true&showARIN=false&showNonArinTopLevelNet=false&ext=netref2
#

NetRange:       104.16.0.0 - 104.31.255.255
CIDR:           104.16.0.0/12
NetName:        CLOUDFLARENET
NetHandle:      NET-104-16-0-0-1
Parent:         NET104 (NET-104-0-0-0-0)
NetType:        Direct Assignment
OriginAS:       AS13335
Organization:   CloudFlare, Inc. (CLOUD14)
RegDate:        2014-03-28
Updated:        2015-10-01
Comment:        https://www.cloudflare.com
Ref:            http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-104-16-0-0-1


OrgName:        CloudFlare, Inc.
OrgId:          CLOUD14
Address:        101 Townsend Street
City:           San Francisco
StateProv:      CA
PostalCode:     94107
Country:        US
RegDate:        2010-07-09
Updated:        2015-10-08
Comment:        http://www.cloudflare.com/
Ref:            http://whois.arin.net/rest/org/CLOUD14

Perhaps the admin of this forum could help us querying his PC or mobile IP address that he used to log in to this forum. I don't think investigating the scam is privacy violation. But I am not entire sure about though. I am not a lawyer. :)

Well as of right now it is not a scam.  Funds are not missing.  So admin may make us wait.


The guy may have been using a laptop to run the setup and wrecked his car when the block hit.

Thus no contact. He could be knocked out in a hospital bed.   ::) ::) ::)

I think not.

Not that it really matters because I am pretty sure that account will never log back in, but I went ahead and left Negative Feedback. If he does show up I will revise.

Yes. The chance for that to happen is very high. The same as the chance to hit a new block with 1 GH/s miner. :D Sorry. I couldn't resist.

Nexious - You are probably reading this thread, so lets just assume you know exactly what is going on by now.

If this is just a scam then you will probably just disappear with the coins and not really give a shit but maybe, just maybe, you have another reason for pulling the plug. I'm sure we would be willing to hear out any other reasons.
At the end of the day I want to be paid what's owed. If you haven't got the money to pay the bonus and rewards then just say and maybe it can be worked out.

If he's reading it, he's using a different account.  Nexious still hasn't logged in since his appearance yesterday about 15 minutes before I found the block.  There also hasn't been any response on IRC and emails to support@nexious.com continue to bounce.

Since the coins haven't moved, I'm not whipping out the scammer card just yet.

https://blockchain.info/ru/address/1GBo1f2tzVx5jScV9kJXPUP9RjvYXuNzV7 >:( >:(

it's gone.

Bye bye.

Well... now what? The coin has been moved to 2 addresses.

Is there anybody living in New Zealand? According to his profile https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=532273, he lives in the country with that local time.

And the coins have been moved...

The coins are now split into two new wallet addresses.  https://blockchain.info/address/1GBo1f2tzVx5jScV9kJXPUP9RjvYXuNzV7

Time to get the details from the domain me thinks...

So after some digging with William New Zeland and Nexious I came up with these as well. First it a post on another forum boardcasting his btcjams Link looking for investors to start the mining pool. It you look at the top of the first poster was Nexious. It was quoted by the first comment. I couldn't find the original post but at least there was a link to the btcjam's invest for nexious pool startup

http://www.data321.net/1w6xe_uqu__nw_2vu19_6w_iiibmmr_D0 (http://www.data321.net/1w6xe_uqu__nw_2vu19_6w_iiibmmr_D0)

Second link is the btcjams link requesting investments for starting his pool. The user name is Perk.

https://btcjam.com/listings/47433-bitcoin-mining-pool-(start-up (https://btcjam.com/listings/47433-bitcoin-mining-pool-(start-up)

With this information it gave me my third link is his Ebay profile.

http://www.ebay.com/usr/fullnz5 (http://www.ebay.com/usr/fullnz5)

The BTCjam link shows he has a facebook page just havent found it yet. More to come. Still digging.

*Edit*

Contacted BTCJAMS to see if they would be willing to help by giving me his account information, name facebook anything. I will update as it becomes available.



 

Yup, btc has moved from its inital payout address.   >:(

Looks like I wont be getting my 0.71btc expected payout. (not including the 20% bonus).

I guess I fell for this scam.  Miners moved back to Kano and NastyFans pools.

well unlike nexious

kano pays
 ck pays
bitminter pays
f2pool pays

P2pool always pays  ;)

Looking through your links (specifically the BTCJam one), it seems User Name: GANTH had some communications with Perk.  Anyway we can get in touch with him to see if he would give us a copy of their conversations?  Maybe it'll help track this sucker down.

Edit: GANTH on BTCJam is also gaanthony on EBay.  Not sure if that helps either.

I am looking into that as well. I was working on finding Perk or something facebook first before I started making contact with his investors.

OK, thanks for trying to track down this person.

The coins have moved again.  Split into two more wallet addresses.  One with 5BTC.  The other with 19.42445372BTC.

https://blockchain.info/tx/83eeed12a8ff5b50f7470841f7ad71b82e932c26f273ca6675ad3c629cd9d71d

The optimist in me says, "Oh look, that 5BTC would be my bonus for finding the block!" :P

the 24btc split again to 2 addresses:
https://blockchain.info/address/14i9p9Xa6mRc4YHzD53F5LovEraeUJA3xt

Edit: You beat me to it johnny

According to https://loanbase.com/index.php/loan/browse/lid/15208/bitcoin-mining-pool-start-up, it seems that he lives in Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand.

Took a little BUT

TADA we have a winner and now go get him. https://www.facebook.com/william.fuller.507

Blow up his twitter @ https://twitter.com/w_boost

Wooaaahh... Hold your horse. What make you so sure that is him? We could be punishing innocent guy.

And the 5BTC portion has been spent: https://blockchain.info/tx/83eeed12a8ff5b50f7470841f7ad71b82e932c26f273ca6675ad3c629cd9d71d

By the way, it wasn't my finder's bonus and didn't appear in my wallet.

Local Bitcoins has confirmed email and phone number...
https://localbitcoins.com/p/Perk/

 :-\ what to do......

The 19+ coins that had been sitting have now moved: https://blockchain.info/tx/d49583e6533dd5dfa4880e360561d66b417a3bdb2f2266bb30d9fc0c785cbaca

I'm going out on a limb here and guessing that not a single miner has received anything.

I have not received any payments.

edit: it seems all of the transactions move ~5btc out of the main chunk of BTC.  maybe he is paying back all his unpaid loans.. lol haha   I just made myself laugh.

I have not received any payments.

OK... it certainly seems to be a reality now.  This was nothing more than a scam.  I have left negative feedback for the user Nexious.  We need to alert the moderators - well, it seems that one has already changed the thread title.  Now I think some further action needs to be taken to see if anyone can track down the pool operator.  It appears some good detective work has been done in this thread and identified a potential perpetrator as William Fuller from New Zealand.  Hopefully the moderators can shed some more light on this by providing detailed information about the registered user Nexious, such as IP address, email, etc.

Should mine on Eligius or P2Pool, both of which pay miners directly from the coinbase generation transaction (https://blockchain.info/tx/5bab401719bc005433f0a1cbc51325ad300b7dc8c504245fc714835e7b266da6).  No middleman for the majority of payouts, can look at your miner's debug logs (or other tool) to see exactly who you're working to pay.

At the very least, mine on a pool with a good track record.  I could see stuff like this becoming a trend. :(

I've simply modified the title to suit what has happened here, and added my own trust feedback. Moderators don't have access to detailed information on users - only admins do (theymos and badbear are the only active admins). They have explicitly said they will not release personal information on any forum user without an official request from an authority so you would need to make your plea to them knowing this.

It's probably worth mentioning that if you share a password used on the Nexious site with any other account you should immediately change those. Never use duplicate passwords if you can avoid it.

I have contacted whoisguard to request the details of the holder. I will not post them publically here but will happily PM them if I get them to those who ask.

Jacob

 I'm from Russia,I do not than the data will not help

Maybe sending a report to the appropriate authorities anyway, then we did our bit.

Jacob

I've pretty much stopped tracking the coins.  They've now been spread across multiple addresses.  Not a single coin has made it into my wallet.  The scam card has been thrown down.

"majority"

Except Eligius doesn't ... sometimes, and the coins can spend months waiting for the eligius middleman to send them to miners ... as you well know yourself.

Since, as with any pool, there's the question of how much you are paid ... there's also the obvious point about the long term luck of the pool, that is under the control of the pool.
Yes you may like to pretend that everything that happens at your pool is luck, but that's a lie.

For the last year (most likely years) your pool block change times have been terrible and part of the cause of the low "luck".
You have only recently made any reasonable changes regarding that (in the last month or so)
Your changes before that, in the previous years, to over come the shortcomings of your pool software, were (among other thing) to:
1) For 5 months only allow 32 transactions per block
2) For years and still currently, mine empty blocks every network block change, yet your block change times are still slow using this, bad for bitcoin, excuse.

You even effectively made the most ridiculous statement about your own pool payouts trying to point out a short coming of PPS :)
Your pool pays less than PPS with an absolute maximum limit of PPS ... so when reward halves, so does your pool payout ... just like it does for Antpool and f2pool and for the same reason.
... and as with most limit functions ... limits are rarely reached.

Haha, get 'em Kano. I was going to mention something like that - while I do trust wizkid057 I have also just about run out of trust with Eligius several times when there are payout / pool issues and things get backed up. While Eligius pays coinbase generation payouts, not every miner gets their coins paid with every block find. The system is queuing up payments, which means (and it has been documented) that the pool does hold a lot of coin that it hasn't paid its miners. Because of that, you can't put P2Pool and Eligius in the same boat regarding trust.

Absolutely. IMHO there are only 2 ways to mine that are completely, 100% trustworthy:

P2pool.
Solo mining.

..and only a few pools that are run by proven trustworthy operators:
Kano.is
ckpool (solo)
Bitminter.
(& BTCGuild - RIP)

I pointed an S3 at this scam pool for less than 2 minutes & I feel cheated  :D  God knows how miners who spent days/weeks on here must feel....... >:(

I think you also have to include Slush in the category of trustworthy pools. The list you provided was pretty short, and i'll bet incomplete. I expect Antpool is trustworthy though I have no direct experience.

Slush has no official support thread on this forum & Antpool provides virtually zero support here, as well as deliberately mining empty blocks. If Antpool/Slush or any other pool done a Nexious with your hard earned BTC, will you know where to go in China or whereever to get your earnings, or who to contact?

I was suspicious every time I saw the block count get near 200 then the pool went down only to see the block count go back to the thousands. maybe he thought he had a block and shut it down to early.
Real generous of you. That S-7 must be nice. did they make it quieter than the S5.  

What a drag... I liked the layout of that pool... Time to find another one...

Yes it can lower the fan speed to 3000 rpm and it is bearable.

I'm kind of glad now (but feel bad for the ones that stuck it out),  that I only wasted a couple of weeks hashing here.

Was 1 of the original first 50 miners 0% fee for life sign-ups. Then afterwards he started making more and more 0% fee, it Just kind of stuck in the back of my mind "how is the pool going to make it, with 0 fee's?". That's when I stopped and figured "let's wait until after the first or second block, just to see how it goes".

Just going through every miner, text, and script to make sure nothing is left that could mistakenly be pasted or clicked, that would point any hash to this pool.

Ah k.
Ladies and gentlemen: Yess .. Yesss ... let the hate flow.

Hi Kano,

I am new to Bitcoin mining with only a few GH/s hashrate. I have tried some pools and I finally chose to mine on Eligius pool. I believe it is the most fair pool for miner with low hashrate like me. Looking at the total hashrate, I believe the miners trust Eligius more than other pools run by volunteers, which is much more than the total hashrate of for instance CKPool.

I didn't try CKPool as I believe I would not get the payout for whole shares due to my low hashrate. The other reason I didn't try CKPool is your comments toward Eligius pool like I quoted above, which I found them mostly offensive so that do not help me to get fair perspective. But perhaps that is due to my lack of understanding. So if you don't mind to explain why do you think CKPool is better than Eligius in term of the payout using the example below, I would really appreciate that.

Suppose Eligius pool finds a new and valid block on the 12th week. In the the previous 12 weeks, I submitted 1,000,000 valid shares each week and my total shares value exceeds the payout threshold on the 8th week. From what I experience, the whole of that 12,000,000 shares is being paid out on that 12th week, without any deduction for fee.

I still cannot entirely understand the payment scheme explained on CKPool site. But I believe I would get less payout on CKPool for the same scenario above. If not, could you please explain how much I would get from CKPool for the above scenario?

Cheers,

Anto

Mornig Anto,

I am not going going to answer for Kano here. But this is a Nexious Pool thread. Well was a nexious pool thread. You would most likely get a better and quicker response if you asked him directly under his pools thread which can be found here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.0). But I do know that Kano's pool pays out like this.

Kano's Pool uses PPLNS (Pay Per Last N Shares)

PPLNS means that when a block is found, the block reward is shared among the last N shares that miners sent to the pool, up to when the block was found.
The N value the pool uses is 5 times the network difficulty when the block is found - '5Nd'.

The 5Nd means the pool rewards 5 times the expected number of shares, each time a block is found.
So each share will be paid appoximately 1/5 of it's expected value, in each block it gets a reward,
but each share is also expected, on average, to be rewarded 5 times in blocks found after the share is submitted to the pool.
i.e. if pool luck was always 100% then each share is expected to be rewarded 5 times.

If pool luck is better than 100%, then the average share reward will be better than 5 times.
If pool luck is lower than 100%, then the average share reward will be less than 5 times.

What is the 5Nd you may ask.

The current Bitcoin network value for Nd is 65,848,255,179.7 and thus 5Nd is 329,241,275,898.5
Bitcoin adjusts the Nd value every 2016 blocks, which is about every 2 weeks.

When a block is found, the reward process counts back shifts until the total share difficulty included is 5Nd.
Since shares are summarised into shifts, it will include the full shift at the end of the range counting backwards,
so it usually will be a bit more than 5Nd.

And here is how Eligus pays out.

Basic Idea
Capped PPS with Recent Backpay
Whenever a block is found, the most recent 25 BTC (a CPPSRB round; one block reward/subsidy) worth of unpaid shares are paid.
Using the proportional concept of rounds, a long round results in the earlier shares being shoved into storage (shelved) rather than paid by the block, and a short round pays the entire round plus the most recent "storage" (shelved) shares found which were not already paid.

Compared to PPLNS, no share is ever paid twice, but old shares (that missed out on being rewarded due to poor luck in the past) have a chance to be paid when the pool is lucky.

Pseudo Code
Capped PPS with Recent Backpay

When a block is found:

Go back 25 BTC into the share log, and reward those at PPS price.
Delete those shares from the log
If the entire database was paid and there are still funds left, include it in the next block's reward
When a block is orphaned:

Undelete the shares rewarded for it

In simple terms, what is a summary of CPPSRB?
Capped PPS with Recent Backpay
CPPSRB is a Maximum Pay-Per-Share reward system variant (MPPS). The pool will pay miners as much as is possible using the income from finding blocks, but the pool can never go bankrupt because of high variance and miners have lower variance overall than other reward systems, such as proportional, PPLNS, DGM, etc.

What is this "Shelved Shares" business?
Capped PPS with Recent Backpay
Shelved Shares are simply shares that you have somewhere in the full pool share log that are not yet close enough to the top of the share log to be paid when the next block is found.

How am I paid for my Shelved Shares?
Capped PPS with Recent Backpay
CPPSRB shares are paid in a last-in-first-out order. When a block is found, the share log is processed from the top downward and shares are paid until one full block reward (25 BTC now) worth of shares are paid. If the current round is a "lucky" round (ie: it took less than 1*network_difficuly shares to find the block) then the top of the share log will contain shares from the current round AND some shelved shares from previous rounds, which will then be paid.
So the short answer is: Some amount of shelved shares are paid for every lucky block (on the stats page, a block with a luck > 100%). Depending on how far down in the share log your shelved shares are determines if they're paid by the current block or not. (See your userstats page and note the estimated change in shelved shares. Negative means that amount will be paid if a block is found now.) (In the works: Share log visualization)

Does the pool *owe* me payout of my Shelved Shares?
Capped PPS with Recent Backpay
No. The shelved shares are shares that pool itself never received any funds to pay in the first place. The only way shelved shares can be paid is as described above. (If someone of course wanted to donate bitcoins to the pool buffer, then of course more would be paid.)

Do my shares retain their value from the time they were mined regardless of difficulty changes in the future?
Capped PPS with Recent Backpay
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How does CPPSRB compare to straight PPS?
Capped PPS with Recent Backpay
With "straight PPS" the pool takes the risk of paying miners during unlucky rounds and recovering the losses during lucky rounds. with CPPSRB, the pool only pays miners as much as is possible during unlucky rounds, and makes up the difference through "shelved shares", which are paid during lucky rounds.

Since Eligius has no mining fees, your shares are put in the share log at 100% PPS. Over time, payouts will average out to as if you had mined at 100% "straight PPS", or close to it, depending on luck.
It is useful to note that it is statistically impossible to offer and run a 100% (or higher) "straight PPS" pool indefinitely, where CPPSRB can run indefinitely with no risk to the pool or miners of not being paid their fair share for their work.


I hope this clears up your questions

I asked my question here because Kano commented here. I am quite sure that it would be considered offensive if I would ask my questions on his pool's thread.


Thanks. But that is exactly what are written on CKPool and Eligius pools. So no, that does not clear up my questions whether CKPool provides better payout than Eligius for the scenario that I mentioned or not. I think Eligius gives better payout in that scenario and perhaps most of scenarios for low hashrate miners. But I could be totally wrong, hence the questions.

First, let me clarify the way Eligius works.  They are not a true PPS pool.  They cap the number of shares, and they shelve shares that cannot be paid.  Kano is a PPLNS pool.  They also cap the number of shares you get paid.  The primary difference between Eligius and kano is the following:

A share in Eligius will get paid exactly one time.
A share in Kano can potentially be paid multiple times.

So, pool luck plays a factor in how many times a share gets paid in Kano.  Pool luck plays a factor in whether or not your share will be paid in Eligius.

Right now, Eligius can pay exactly 65,848,255,179 shares per block.  It doesn't matter if it took them 1 share or 1,000,000,000,000,000 shares to find that block, the maximum they pay is equal to the difficulty.  If it took Eligius fewer than difficulty number of shares to solve the block, then they can look into the shelved shares and pay out some of those.  If it took Eligius more than difficulty number of shares to solve the block, then they shelve the shares.  Maybe you get paid for them, maybe you don't.

Does this help clarify things for you?

I ran this in honor of all of us that lost 25 +10 btc combined.  I gave it 24 plus hours. Sadly no block.

 http://solo.ckpool.org/users/1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje

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I ran this in honor of all of us that lost 25 +10 btc combined.  I gave it 24 plus hours. Sadly no block.

 http://solo.ckpool.org/users/1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje
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That was very generous of you. Nice to know there are a few good people out there.

I guess you are referring to my questions to Kano. If so, thanks a lot for trying to clarify that.

However, I am actually looking for more practical answer as to which one between CKPool and Eligius pays more to the miner with low hashrate, e.g. 100 GH/s, for the exact same period of mining which on the scenario I mentioned is 12 weeks. From what I have experienced so far on Eligius, I get only around 10 mBTC for 2 weeks of mining. I could possibly get more if my miners (Antminer U3) are more stable. I guess I have to try CKPool myself to get a definite answer to that question.

I was indeed replying to your question to kano.  Unfortunately the answer you're looking for is not as simple as the question appears to be :).

Let me try another approach to see if it helps you understand the differences between the two pools.  The hash rate is really not relevant as long as it is consistent between the two pools.

Mining on Eligius, you will absolutely never have any possibility to make more than however many shares you've submitted.  You are absolutely capped at 100% of expected earnings.  Reality is you will not make 100% because of factors like orphaned blocks.

Mining on kano, you have the possibility to make more or less than expected earnings dependent upon the luck of the pool.

Let's look at some real numbers.  You are mining at 100GH/s.  This means that you would expect to submit 23.28 difficulty 1 shares every second (100,000,000,000 / 2^32).  With a network difficulty of 65,848,255,179 each of those shares is worth 0.00000000037966BTC.  There are 86,400 seconds in a day.  Therefore, your expected earnings per day are 0.000763644672BTC.

Not surprisingly, this is exactly what an online calculator would show you as well.  For the sake of your example, we're going to assume that the difficulty will not change for the entire 12 weeks.  In reality, it would change about 6 times.  So, keeping the difficulty constant, your 100GH/s mining would expect to earn 0.064146152448BTC in 12 weeks.  At current rates, that's about $20.79.

Ok... now if we go back to my original statement, with Eligius, you can never, ever make more than that 0.064146152448BTC in those 12 weeks.  On kano, you can make more than that, or you can make less.  Kano's pool has, since inception, been running about 101% luck.  That has no bearing on future luck - it is just a metric of past performance.  However, it is a metric that shows had you been mining on Eligius for the past year and on kano for the past year, given identical hash rates on each pool, you would have made more on kano.

JB - you have the patience of a saint  ;D ;)

The constant flow of bourbon and American Spirits keeps me in check :P

This really sucks guys :-(

Exactly my thoughts

Well... This is exactly the practical answer that I have been looking for. Thanks a lot for that. And I am sorry to be so ignorant. I tried to understand the calculations based on the explanations on how the payout are being done by the pools, but those just make me more confused.

Perhaps he is! What do you think made him found the first ever block on this pool?

As sad as it is, I think Phil had it correct earlier: the best thing that could have happened was for me to find a block and expose this as a scam.  I'm very sorry for those who put their faith, hash and coin into this misadventure, and I am very happy that I was able to put an end to it when I did, preventing people from losing even more.  I made it away pretty unscathed.  Unfortunately, a good number of people weren't as lucky.

LOL.  Believe me... if I'm ever up for canonization, the world is in a REALLY bad place :P.  I enjoy far too many things that aren't exactly qualifiers (two of which I mentioned above).

there's more active discussions going on in this pool thread now than when the pool was actually running.
Lets just change the thread name to St.JonnyBravo Pool and go mine with him.  :)   

Trolling as usual without any real knowledge of the situation.  Honestly, I think it's more an unwillingness to accept the knowledge presented rather than total ignorance... but the result is still the same.

I did specifically say "majority of payouts" for a reason.  Eligius has a minimum payout, like most pools.  P2Pool has one too, it's just less obvious and dictated by the max coinbase size by increasing share difficulties.  P2Pool can include "every" miner's payout in every block because it makes those payouts larger by making the work harder.  Eligius's offline wallet accumulates the small amount of coins that miners who haven't yet reached the minimum payout and does manual catch ups of the payout queue when this amount gets to something reasonable.  The offline wallet is also used for times when the coinbaser is unavailable immediately, such as the quick block change optimization below.  Every Eligius payout since the beginning of time is verifiable 100% using the blockchain and the pool APIs, and people regularly do so and it is fully encouraged.  If there is a satoshi out of place, I'd be happy to hear about it.

Even with the offline wallet, the payout queue allows miners to get generated payouts once they reach the minimum payout.  So a miner that isn't able to reach the minimum every block will still get coinbase generated payouts for the majority of their payouts.  To date Eligius-Ra (iteration of the pool that I took over management of) has mined ~10,224 blocks and made 172 non-generated manual payouts.  I think the numbers speak for themselves.

Eligius's supposed block change time delays in the past as measured by you and others was nearly 100% caused by connection prioritization.  Zombie miners leeching off of block changes that are doing little to no actual mining relative to the rest of the pool have their connection priority dropped to nothing.  Effectively these connections wouldn't get any data pushed to them until well after 99% of the pool had received several work updates and when the coinbaser had caught up and all (not realtime) pushing GBs of work to over 100,000 active connections.  Eligius easily handles peak loads of over 250,000 miner connections regularly.  Takes quite a bit of bandwidth to push work to all of these miners, on the order of multiple terabytes per day easily.  

I recently decided that de-prioritization just wasn't sufficient and I just boot zombie miners now, freeing up tons of bandwidth in the process.  Only personally approved users and/or IPs may idle on Eligius without mining without being booted in a FIFO order now with a set number of connections allocated to zombies (mostly people who have us as a backup pool, with some prioritization logic in there along those  lines).  Prioritization is still in play, and zombie connections still have low priority.  It just is less noticeable now since everything can be caught up in milliseconds vs seconds.  I'll probably boost priority on the nifty poolbench stat eventually, but I currently don't override my setup for any connections aside from not booting approved zombies.

I don't believe the 32 transactions per block situation took place while Eligius was under my management, with the exception of blocks generated with PoT transaction counts to counter a bitcoin CVE, which were blocks with a PoT number of transactions, not just 32.  The only time any limits anywhere like that are placed on Eligius's blocks is when I'm doing work on one of the core bitcoinds and a sub-section of the pool is utilizing a secondary node with less horsepower and more strict relay settings and such to ensure continued smooth mining for the few minutes it takes to get the core node back online.

As for empty blocks, any pool or miner *not* using the 1-transaction initial work speedup on a network block change is just stupidly wasting miner resources, IMO.  Pool immediately gets miners on the right block, and as soon as GBT returns with an updated transaction list gets miners working on full blocks.  The fact that Eligius (and most other pools) find these coinbase-only blocks proves to value of such an optimization.  They do no harm to bitcoin since they fulfill the primary purpose of mining, which is securing the network.  All blocks are now deeper in the chain (more confirmations) because of the new block.  You don't want to hear that though, and would rather spend time trolling and spreading FUD about it.

Admittedly, ckpool, being C based (and with the less obvious advantage of most ckpool-based pools being smaller on a connection-count basis than Eligius) would probably benefit greatly from such an optimization and have block change times second to no other pools besides HO-mining/SPV-mining pools.  I was actually considering moving Eligius to ckpool until I was made aware of bugs that can potentially cheat miners in some situations (no time to confirm this, but the code appears to do so during some vardiff changes), has kludges like submitting blocks that don't meet the network target, and doesn't include a basic well known mining optimization (described above).  Fixable stuff I suppose, but not worth it.

Transaction fees are included with Eligius, so... not sure what that comment was about.  Just more trolling, as usual.  And you do realize that *all* pools will pay half as much after a reward halving, right?  I thought that was well understood?  I mean, if your pool is still paying based on pre-halving amounts I'll be pointing some hash power your way until you go broke...

Fun fact:  I had kano on ignore because the incessant trolling is ridiculous, but can see quoted posts... kano, man to man, seriously... what is your beef?  I'd much appreciate a one on one discussion on why the hell you feel the need to follow me around and bash me and Eligius constantly.  I really must be missing some underlying cause because it's crazy, man.  I honestly do not know what the hell I've done to offend you to deserve such crap. :(

You really don't know or are you feigning ignorance? Your continued association with the worst software troll bitcoin has and the only person I have on ignore.

Interesting.  So because I occasionally speak with someone you two have had drama with in the past, I'm automatically a target of non-stop BS.  So, basically school-girl drama.  Got it.  Thanks for the explanation.  Edit:  Was I giving too much credit to you and kano thinking that I may have been being judged alone on my own merits?  :-\

Not that it's any of your business, but I'll note that I've associated more with people in this thread in the past few days than I have with with person you seem to hate so much over the entire past few months.  Also for the record, I'm the only one involved in the day to day operation of Eligius these days and the only one with access to the vast majority of the infrastructure, and this has been the case for quite some time... seems to be lost on some people though.

Don't mix me up with Kano.

Again I get the conversation back and fourth. But this is a Nexious pool thread. Why are we talking about other pools and their Drama, Shouldn't the focus now be more towards finding the OP and making his life a living hell for scamming all the miners that put hash here. I mean I lost little compared to others and posted some pretty good information I feel that leads us to the direction of the owner but no one seem to even care about it any more. This is could be  why these types of things keep happening. We let these people get away with it and go oh well and move on to the next one.

There has to be a way to insure if some one takes from you, They should have to pay. Ether by the law or by straight up street justice. I am in no way condoning violence here but something needs to be done or put in place that doesn't let this type of thing happen.

I know nothing about the coding side of bitcoin I wish I did but can something be written in that states if some one protests a transaction the transaction is put on hold until ether the protest is found worthy or unworthy or Instead of releasing the block after 100 confirms there is another 20 confirms after a new transaction is made before those coins land in another account allowing time to for some one to protest wrongful miss doings.

All I am trying to say is it seems this type of crap happens all the time ether through hyips or investment scams, or people trying to sell items they don't have and pool OP's  that dont pay out.

Granted most older users don't fall prey to these types of things because ether it has happened to them before and the learned. Oh fire put hand on fire OUCH! Fire equals pain  don't touch fire again. Or just by reading what others have written from their bad experiences. If it happens so often why cant we create steps towards fixing it?

You were the one that responded to something directed at kano. *shrugs*

Whatever, I don't care anymore.  At this point I doubt the crap will stop no matter what I do.  It's old, and I need to just be the better man and stop feeding into the immature drama I guess.


Apologies for the OT conversation.  kano tends to have that effect a lot of times.  At least my original post was on the topic of the thread.  His reply had nothing to do with the topic and was just his normal trolling and bashing of myself and my pool. :-\

No apologies needed just trying to keep us on topic. Getting this dirty OP and the money that is owed to the miners here. Granted I am more likely to win the lotto than seeing this guy brought to justice bad damn this type of crap pisses me off to no end!

What do you think we should do instead of bashing his balls of?

If a guy promised you to give 100 EUR in exchange for you to do something but he doesn't keep his promise after you have done that, what would you do? I don't think you can sue him or ask the police to do something without a legal contract between you and him for that agreement. This happens everywhere in the world to the illegal workers. I think what has happened on this pool is the same. There was no legal contract with the OP and we all just volunteerly gave our hashrates for him to get the reward. So it is actually up to him what to do with the reward. Unfortunately, he decided to keep it for himself.

I can only offer an anime harem to Mr Bravo - just as real and useful as a saint 'hood' though, but nicer to look at :)

Now for the down side :)
Firstly, indeed luck is fickle.
The reason for my post was that "Pool Luck" is not "just luck" - it includes things that a pool can manage and reduce

Over the month of October we had the worst luck the pool has had since it started.
12 blocks found, 6 of them over 200% Difficulty, 3 around 100% and the other 3 good luck ... no orphans.
Yep a shocker ... for 12 blocks (Avg 197.85% Diff)
Though for any pool 10x the size as kano.is, that's only 3 days of similar bad luck :P

Over the past year we've had ... 1 orphan.
The pool has been running for 1 year and 2 months, in those first 2 months we had ... 1 orphan.
363 blocks ... 14 months ... 2 orphans.

Now, looking at luck over time actually isn't comparing oranges with oranges.
Pool luck is specifically based on the amount of shares submitted and the amount of blocks found.
If you compare luck over time of a pool with 10 times the hash rate of another pool, you are misunderstanding how to compare the statistics.

So if one pool has bad luck for a year with 4 times the hash rate as a another pool, that's just as statistically likely as that smaller pool having the same bad luck for 4 years.
Yeah a year worth or bad luck is very unexpected ... and if the expectation of that happening is less than 0.1% ... like at that pool ... that's like saying less than one chance in 1000 years of it happening, and for a pool 1/4 of the size, there'd be less than one chance in 4000 years of that happening ...

But back to luck ...
Orphans and stale blocks (be they shown by the pool or hidden by the pool) are the element of so called 'pool luck' that can have a level of control.
End of story, ignore the deception of pisskid.

legally he is subject to the law of his country at the least.

These pools are implied contracts by what he wrote on this thread.  but that would be USA law.

I have zero idea of New Zealand  laws.