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Title: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: cryptohunter on January 05, 2017, 11:26:05 AM
Didn't this person start of under the pretense of being an objective crypto currency enthusiast??

Apparently she has been and still is on the dash pay roll for a couple of hundred dash coins per month to fund her dash darkdcoin scam rantings to entice people to prop up that ponzi scheme??

What's her username on this board?

I've tried searching


AmandaBJ

Amanda Johnson dash

Amanda B Johnson scam pumper

Amanda B Johnson paid shill

Amanda B Johnson zero credibility

Hmmmm nothing, must be in disguise on here if she is here at all?

Zero Objectivity when getting paid a few thousand $ of dash per month??

I guess she doesn't care to face the board and discuss this?

Anyone know  anything about her? I mean if that is not her name then why choose such a strange name in the first place.?


Anything other than discussion of her paid involvement in facilitating dash/darkcoin will be moderated. We just need to get to the truth.


A known dash zealot called qwizzie is saying this thread breaks forum rules. Oh really how come he does not object to all the other threads on here examining factual events and evidences that people are scamming and facilitating scams. This is exactly the place to examine evidence indicating scams and scammers. Trying to stop this public analysis of factual evidence is very telling about how worried qwizzie and his fellow dashers are about it all. Why try to hush it up if there is nothing to find from looking at these factual events.

We are not allowed to analyse the facts now that are plain for all to see.  

I wonder how many pieces of shillver qwizzie will try to bride a mod with to delete a thread asking for factual and observable events to be banned.


Below i add at the request of spot the evidence upon which I assert dash is a scam coin


Let's take a look at the first 5 h of Darkcoin (XCoin at that time)...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4589219#msg4589219
Edufield said (after failed launch) that he will wait the next day to launch DRK (XCoin at that time) it is 11 pm.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4591407#msg4591407
Edufield disregard windows wallet and daemon and hurry up his launch, presumably to not have windows miners on board.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4592827#msg4592827
Edufield say he added four nodes for the launch at 4 am (5 hours later, despite his promise to wait). The 4 nodes from Edufield are 3 amazons AWS + another unknown (whois IP). Launch started at 3h54 am.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4593601#msg4593601
Edufield said the github version was not updated, nobody could compile and only Edufield was able to mine until that time. It is 5.09 am and Edufield instamined alone 1153 block at 500 DRK + 60 block at reward 277 = 593120 DRK for him alone in about 1 hour.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4593987#msg4593987
No windows wallet confirmed at 5h47 am, despite a user attempt to make one avaiable, that Edufield dismissed quickly.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4594096#msg4594096
Illodin, understand dev has instamined alot of coin.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4595573#msg4595573
From this list of nodes, at 8h34 am (4h40 after launch) there were 50 Amazon AWS node and 50 microsoft cloud computing instamining DRK (checked using IP whois service). This is 100/124 nodes using cloud computing to instamine DRK. We are at block 2870 and block reward is 500. From block 1153-1729 block reward is 277. After that it is 500 again hence 2294 block at 500 + 576 at 277 = 1306552 DRK (worth about 13M$ now) were instamined in less than 5 hour by Edufield and coworkers using about 100 cloud mining instances. Edufield himself instamined in not even 5 h from 600K to 1169K DRK ((1306K-600K)*100/124 + 600K) depending how many of the 100 cloud mining instance were its own. All this while having purposefully set the difficult ridiculously low and block reward 100 times what it is now.


SCAM = unfair and dishonest scheme = dash


This latest defence is so strange. Where are the victims ? what are you talking about it is there in black and white.

1. everyone who was told it was a fair launch LIKE ALL THE OTHER LAUNCHES AT THE TIME. - then prevented from mining fairly = scammed
2. everyone who was told there would be much more opportunity to mine ( then that got slashed by 75%) - prevented from mining the coins that were then taken away = scammed.

here are your victims.

3. everyone buying now thinking dash can go somewhere not knowing the scam it is will forever hold it back = being scammed.


Every dasher on here trying to scam others into supporting your scam = scammers.

I will be updating my scammers thread to add all of your names to it.

Denying a scam after it is proven time and time again to you in black and white = scam enabler and defender = scammer.


Threads examining the evidence of the captive instamine and reduction of the minting to magnify such instamining ...PROOF OF SCAM

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999886.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=559028.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=995710.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999084.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.0

Read them Amanda johnson


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam
Post by: propcorn on January 05, 2017, 11:34:00 AM
I dont take her for a scammer, she is beeing payed to advertise an product, that happens since... ever
IMO she is losting the majority of crypto populution, I use to watch her videos before, but after she fully join Dash I lost the interest....
I just think she is wrong on shes choice, but surely not a scammer


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam
Post by: BitPotus on January 05, 2017, 11:36:09 AM
Amanda B Johnson used to rock on the Daily Decrypt.

Then she sold her soul to these DASH wankers.

Shame......

I don't like her anymore.

But she ain't a scammer.

She's just a typical lass who's going after the sugar daddy that will pay her....


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam
Post by: Febo on January 05, 2017, 11:42:16 AM
Crypto become business. So people can earn not only by trading or scamming but just do the businesses. Whatever it is.

I totally agree with BitPotus.  She had a gem with Daily Decrypt and after this Bitcoin bubble or for sure the next one Daily Decrypt would bring her fame and fortune. Now she lost most credibility and no one will take her seriously anymore when trying to revive it. And trust me she will try it.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam
Post by: cryptohunter on January 05, 2017, 11:48:28 AM
I follow this logical thought path that leads me to the personal conclusion she is a possible scammer.


scam = a dishonest scheme; a fraud.

Dash = a dishonest scheme; a fraud because announced fair launch then went full captive instamine and the reduced the minting (proven over and over in many threads can post them here if need be)

scammer = one that knowingly scams others directly or knowingly facilitates a scam.

Amanda B J = facilitates a very well known scam and benefits from doing so.


The only possible way that she is not a scammer is if she has no clue about the captive instamine launch and slashing of the minting to magnify the captive instamine loot they (devs and insiders ) took.

Again proven and even admitted by one of the devs who confirmed he mined on amazon instances 120 000 dash in the first few hours. Evans even said there would be an airdrop of 2 000 000 dash to the entire board to balance up the instamine. He never went through with it because apparently only the minority wanted an airdrop (oh really)

Do we really believe Amanda B johnson is unaware of the scam that dash is? Or do we believe she is fully aware of the instamine and subsequent slashiing of the minting to magnify their captive instamine loot but still prefers to pump and facilitate this scam to others for her own personal gain?


Bring her to this board so that we may educate her before she entices more poor people into this heavily instamine scam ponzi scheme.



Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam
Post by: btc_zero_sum on January 05, 2017, 11:58:14 AM
man, for your health, get over it!  ;D

she seems passionate about crypto and dash but at least she gets paid for it, you are passionate about the premine but seems like you are even loosing sleep because of it


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam
Post by: PikachuYou on January 05, 2017, 12:13:23 PM
You want to talk about BTC diggers?

Look at these two......

They are doing an ICO to do what Amanda B Johnson was doing for free.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1736011.20 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1736011.20)

These supposed twins (one is fat, the other one is chunky) are the real scammers.

https://img1.steemit.com/0x0/http://i.imgsafe.org/af35278d04.jpg


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam
Post by: cryptohunter on January 05, 2017, 12:16:30 PM
man, for your health, get over it!  ;D

she seems passionate about crypto and dash but at least she gets paid for it, you are passionate about the premine but seems like you are even loosing sleep because of it

Thanks for this advice but I am interested only in the topic in the OP.

That's not how things work. People who gain financially for promoting proven scams are usually jailed. It should be no different in crypto land. More people should be passionate about crushing scams and scammers so crypto can flourish.

She is a constantly promoting a know scam and is proven to be on the payroll for them. Not that there was any doubt she was way back.

Hopefully now people will search amanda b johnson and come across this thread and this will give them cause to research dash/darkcoin before investing their hard earned money into that scam ponzi scheme.

This thread is not for discussing my sleeping patterns nor my motives nor my obsession it is to discuss the facts concerning the scam and scam promoters of this coin.

Any health concerns you have for me should be on a different thread. Any personal comments about me again make another thread. Anything non related to these factual observable events shall be moderated.

I does not even matter if anyone believes I have ulterior motives for posting this thread. I only wish to discuss the facts

1. she was originally running and objective review of many new cryto currencies

2. Dash/darkcoin (same thing)  is a proven scam coin

3. she is being paid to now promote/facilitate a proven scam coin dash/darkcoin

4. she is a paid shill and scammer

If i am losing sleep or if I am the devil makes no difference to the observable events on which I wish to focus this thread.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam
Post by: pereira4 on January 05, 2017, 01:21:01 PM
As far as I can remember, Amanda B Johnson worked in sales, specifically worked selling cars, that's all I know before she started going that program on youtube called the daily decrypt, which started as a good and informative youtube video series, but then something happened... she started being hostile towards bitcoin core, and started shilling bitcoin classic and ethereum, then she started shilling dash. At this time, other youtube people like david seaman also did exactly the same, started hating on core, then started shilling classic and ethereum... I think this is where those shills started getting paid.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam
Post by: iamnotback on January 05, 2017, 01:33:58 PM
You guys have a different taste in beauty than I do apparently. I'd get hot for something more along these lines:

http://www.93x.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/202/2015/02/1357162617.jpg

Compare:

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/650804886645407744/1sGZUiFw.png

The novelty was that she was a female, libertarian, and supposedly somewhat attractive. Heck I don't care what a woman's politics are, because women typically aren't reliably/logically principled any way (they are emotionally, hypergamy, and family driven). And a few token females isn't changing the fact that Bitcoin is a male only phenomenon.

Sorry I was born before the politically correct, leftist fantasies become the law of the land.

Give her credit though for maximizing her income in our ecosystem. She apparently hit that geek/libertarian sweet spot for a while. Perhaps the novelty is wearing thin now.

It is interesting to note how even Steem didn't manage to escape the confines of our eccentric demographics here in cryptoland.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam
Post by: btc_zero_sum on January 05, 2017, 02:11:28 PM

women typically aren't reliably/logically principled any way (they are emotionally, hypergamy, and family driven).

wow i cannot believe that the man who claims to be above the most people in terms of IQ and claims to have a fix to most of crypto problems can also give such a statement regarding woman so poor of logic and sense.

how many woman did you met in your life, two? how many cultures, cultural scenes, places have you seen or lived to conclude like this about women? seems like you should close your computer and live more with people before saying this kind of BS, and political correctness has nothing to do with this


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam
Post by: pereira4 on January 05, 2017, 02:46:00 PM
You guys have a different taste in beauty than I do apparently. I'd get hot for something more along these lines:

http://www.93x.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/202/2015/02/1357162617.jpg

Compare:

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/650804886645407744/1sGZUiFw.png

The novelty was that she was a female, libertarian, and supposedly somewhat attractive. Heck I don't care what a woman's politics are, because women typically aren't reliably/logically principled any way (they are emotionally, hypergamy, and family driven). And a few token females isn't changing the fact that Bitcoin is a male only phenomenon.

Sorry I was born before the politically correct, leftist fantasies become the law of the land.

Give her credit though for maximizing her income in our ecosystem. She apparently hit that geek/libertarian sweet spot for a while. Perhaps the novelty is wearing thin now.

It is interesting to note how even Steem didn't manage to escape the confines of our eccentric demographics here in cryptoland.


To be frank, the girl you posted is wearing tons of makeup, probably fake tan and has photoshop to make the colours stand out. Amanda B Johnson's pic is a real picture, she looks cute with long hair parted to the side and not that Sia type of hair that I saw on some recent dash video.

Anyway, the thing is, this girl is obviously a paid shill.  After doing the daily decrypt and shilling classic and ethereum, she moved to the dash youtube program and only shills dash full time. People pay other people to promote products, it has always happened and always will.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam
Post by: cryptohunter on January 05, 2017, 02:51:43 PM

women typically aren't reliably/logically principled any way (they are emotionally, hypergamy, and family driven).

wow i cannot believe that the man who claims to be above the most people in terms of IQ and claims to have a fix to most of crypto problems can also give such a statement regarding woman so poor of logic and sense.

how many woman did you met in your life, two? how many cultures, cultural scenes, places have you seen or lived to conclude like this about women? seems like you should close your computer and live more with people before saying this kind of BS, and political correctness has nothing to do with this

Let's not sidetrack this into a random discussion of females on this planet. Let's keep to the OP. Is specifically amanda bj a paid facilitator of a proven instamine scam coin called dash. Is she fully aware of the history of this coin and why other than the money she is paid does she promote it over other crypto currencies?

However, I do not think his comments " they are emotionally, hypergamy, and family driven" are that that off the mark neither do I think they are negative at all. It is purely nature. Females like to select the best provider for their families, they are family driven, and can be emotional perhaps no more so than guys to some people but I think girls appear more emotional outwardly perhaps guys don't show emotion quite as much outwardly. These are not at all negative traits. What if we said they were non family driven and devoid of emotion and wanted to get the worst partner to help bring up their offspring?

I even mention this because some dash shills will try to twist that this is some kind of non pc thread. It is merely one persons opinion and I'm sure it is shared by many other people layman and scientists. Those are not negative traits they are entirely positive.

Does being emotional or driven by family based values obscure a purer form of logic? perhaps it can. But remember emotions are what make us human not AI that could perhaps be more logical and less emotional. Depends how you interpret what was said as to whether you take it as negative or positive. I try to always look for the positive in things unless they are a pure scam.


Anyway let's keep on track of examining the facts here regarding the specific points questioned in the OP.

Is she a full on facilitator of the darkcoin dash scam or is she really not aware of the captive instamine and slashing of the minting? If she is aware why would she be promoting this over all the other cryptos out there? perhaps she is not objective at all and is being paid?? apparently she is?


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam
Post by: iamnotback on January 05, 2017, 05:15:42 PM

women typically aren't reliably/logically principled any way (they are emotionally, hypergamy, and family driven).

wow i cannot believe that the man who claims to be above the most people in terms of IQ and claims to have a fix to most of crypto problems can also give such a statement regarding woman so poor of logic and sense.

how many woman did you met in your life, two? how many cultures, cultural scenes, places have you seen or lived to conclude like this about women? seems like you should close your computer and live more with people before saying this kind of BS, and political correctness has nothing to do with this

You obviously don't understand women. But you'll awaken from the PC leftist delusion eventually as you discover what really makes women tick.

Have you read about Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer's failure to transition from a marginalized performance at Google as a project leader to a total failure as a CEO. The noticeable traits of a typical female are very evident in the reasons for her failure.

https://www.quora.com/How-was-Marissa-Mayer-viewed-within-Google
http://variety.com/2016/digital/features/marissa-mayer-yahoo-ceo-1201781310/
http://www.inc.com/jeff-bercovici/marissa-mayer-mistakes-yahoo.html


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: Shiroslullaby on January 05, 2017, 05:23:27 PM
I'm willing to whore myself out to any signature campaign as long as it makes me earn a few dollars.
It doesn't change what or how often I post, but I would be crazy not to take a few dollars for something I'm going to do anyways.

99.99% of people offering "advice" in the crypto world are only trying to promote their agenda.
If someone is able to capitalize on a company who is willing to pay them for their services, more power to them.
As long as you aren't causing any harm.
Now, if you are purposely mis-leading people and making money off it, you are a scumbag.
If your lies are hurting peoples pocketbooks don't be surprised when someone comes after you online and possibly in real life.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam
Post by: thejaytiesto on January 05, 2017, 05:31:43 PM
You guys have a different taste in beauty than I do apparently. I'd get hot for something more along these lines:

http://www.93x.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/202/2015/02/1357162617.jpg

Compare:

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/650804886645407744/1sGZUiFw.png

The novelty was that she was a female, libertarian, and supposedly somewhat attractive. Heck I don't care what a woman's politics are, because women typically aren't reliably/logically principled any way (they are emotionally, hypergamy, and family driven). And a few token females isn't changing the fact that Bitcoin is a male only phenomenon.

Sorry I was born before the politically correct, leftist fantasies become the law of the land.

Give her credit though for maximizing her income in our ecosystem. She apparently hit that geek/libertarian sweet spot for a while. Perhaps the novelty is wearing thin now.

It is interesting to note how even Steem didn't manage to escape the confines of our eccentric demographics here in cryptoland.


To be frank, the girl you posted is wearing tons of makeup, probably fake tan and has photoshop to make the colours stand out. Amanda B Johnson's pic is a real picture, she looks cute with long hair parted to the side and not that Sia type of hair that I saw on some recent dash video.

For me that huge mouth is not at all cute. You'd have to pay me a significant amount to kiss her. The girl I selected has a small mouth and at least light colored eyes. Amanda looks like an average Eastern European girl such as Ukrainian (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR09IwSK7-A&t=18s&spfreload=10). Note I didn't dislike or hate on Amanda. I am just pondering how she captivated the geeks. I guess I have a different taste in women. I just wasn't captivated by the novelty she brought for more than about 15 minutes. It is interesting to me from a marketing perspective, which I think is kind of the point of this thread if you think about it from a generative essence angle.

This tan, 34/35D boobs, and vagina tighter than a vice grip isn't fake (actually it is too small for me, but will probably be okay after a child). She hides from the sun, because 2 hours in noon sun and she will be black. But what I admire about her most is she isn't a confused woman and she really appreciates the simple things. Her core human values are mostly very compatible to mine. I discuss it more below...

https://i.imgur.com/MVTXrlJ.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/PJikUc9.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/SUjDy4e.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/P4dTGpj.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/J201oag.jpg

I am interested in this concept about we enslave ourselves when we enslave others. But I just don't see a consistent truth. For example, every women I have ever been in a relationship has tried to enslave me to some degree. So should my reaction want to be to enslave women, i.e. adopt some "fundamentalist" faith which views the woman as the rib of the man. But what is the alternative? An open relationship? Btw, I think my current relationship is one of the best so far, because she doesn't push me too much (her wants are reasonable, such as family and lots of love which I think is totally beautiful qualities of a female and I feel almost a duty to give her what she wants so she can fulfill her life and be happy and I think that is what love is when you realize you appreciate the other person and want them to fulfill their opportunity costs).

I need to do more thinking and reflection on this.


Is that you and your gf? she looks cute and definitely nice boobs, but my taste in women is eastern european inclined (not sure if this amanda girl is estern euro as you guys talking about), I think they are the most beautiful in the world.

http://latelunchblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/3682_joanna_krupa_photo_4.jpeg (http://latelunchblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/3682_joanna_krupa_photo_4.jpeg)

nothing can top this... I wish I could have girls like this but im not rich or goodlooking so my chances are slim  :'(

Maybe when bitcoin goes to 10k... but if it takes too long I'll be too old. In 10 years i'll still be "young" but if it takes longer im done. Maybe your famous bitcoin killer can make me rich overnight :D


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam
Post by: btc_zero_sum on January 05, 2017, 06:38:25 PM

women typically aren't reliably/logically principled any way (they are emotionally, hypergamy, and family driven).

wow i cannot believe that the man who claims to be above the most people in terms of IQ and claims to have a fix to most of crypto problems can also give such a statement regarding woman so poor of logic and sense.

how many woman did you met in your life, two? how many cultures, cultural scenes, places have you seen or lived to conclude like this about women? seems like you should close your computer and live more with people before saying this kind of BS, and political correctness has nothing to do with this

You obviously don't understand women. But you'll awaken from the PC leftist delusion eventually as you discover what really makes women tick.

Have you read about Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer's failure to transition from a marginalized performance at Google as a project leader to a total failure as a CEO. The noticeable traits of a typical female are very evident in the reasons for her failure.

https://www.quora.com/How-was-Marissa-Mayer-viewed-within-Google
http://variety.com/2016/digital/features/marissa-mayer-yahoo-ceo-1201781310/
http://www.inc.com/jeff-bercovici/marissa-mayer-mistakes-yahoo.html

oh yes leftist (no trust me, i'm not), sure, just because i find your comparisons and beauty reviews creepy. looks like for you women are pure accessory and all follow some kind of standards, as they have a finite set of needs and will.
if i was your woman i would be disgusted by you.

this thread escalated quickly in a trashy BS talk, at this point i would rather continue the cryptohunter "amanda supports the dash PREMINE" topic instead of the sad "eastern looks girls & big tits crap"


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam
Post by: iamnotback on January 05, 2017, 07:12:08 PM

women typically aren't reliably/logically principled any way (they are emotionally, hypergamy, and family driven).

wow i cannot believe that the man who claims to be above the most people in terms of IQ and claims to have a fix to most of crypto problems can also give such a statement regarding woman so poor of logic and sense.

how many woman did you met in your life, two? how many cultures, cultural scenes, places have you seen or lived to conclude like this about women? seems like you should close your computer and live more with people before saying this kind of BS, and political correctness has nothing to do with this

You obviously don't understand women. But you'll awaken from the PC leftist delusion eventually as you discover what really makes women tick.

Have you read about Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer's failure to transition from a marginalized performance at Google as a project leader to a total failure as a CEO. The noticeable traits of a typical female are very evident in the reasons for her failure.

https://www.quora.com/How-was-Marissa-Mayer-viewed-within-Google
http://variety.com/2016/digital/features/marissa-mayer-yahoo-ceo-1201781310/
http://www.inc.com/jeff-bercovici/marissa-mayer-mistakes-yahoo.html

oh yes leftist (no trust me, i'm not), sure, just because i find your comparisons and beauty reviews creepy. looks like for you women are pure accessory and all follow some kind of standards, as they have a finite set of needs and will.
if i was your woman i would be disgusted by you.

this thread escalated quickly in a trashy BS talk, at this point i would rather continue the cryptohunter "amanda supports the dash PREMINE" topic instead of the sad "eastern looks girls & big tits crap"

You are so noble (did you lose your cock down some feminist sewer?). Now let's analyze why this non-technical chick got any attention in the first place. She doesn't have a fucking clue about the technology at any deep level.

I am wondering what mesmerized the geeks. As I said, she isn't that attractive in my opinion, she certainly isn't knowledgeable enough about the technology, so WTF is the reason the geeks are drooling over some chick?

Kudos to her for finding some fools. Just saying that I wasn't turned on (neither intellectually or otherwise).

And you are boring the fuck out of me too with your feminist drivel.

Women in tech (pure technology and programming) is pretty much a disaster. There are always exceptions of course, but I don't see this Amanda chick as capable of even understanding what I am about to post about Byzantine agreement in my next post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1739268.msg17411734#msg17411734) (in other thread).

WTF did I write to indicate that a women is purely an accessory? Women are for family, love, etc.. They are not usually capable in logic and technology. Sorry it is not their interest. This Amanda lady is doing a piss poor job at it as well. Her understanding of the technology is very superficial soundbite level.


Western men act like bitches now. They argue about every thing and anything. You guys are acting like women. Men have totally forgotten how to be a man. We are fucking arguing about being political correct and pretending that women and men are equal and the same. We are not. Men suck at getting pregnant.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: cryptohunter on January 05, 2017, 07:29:12 PM
Didn't this person start of under the pretense of being an objective crypto currency enthusiast??

Apparently she has been and still is on the dash pay roll for a couple of hundred dash coins per month to fund her dash darkdcoin scam rantings to entice people to prop up that ponzi scheme??

What's her username on this board?

I've tried searching


AmandaBJ

Amanda B Johnson scam pumper

Amanda B Johnson paid shill

Amanda B Johnson zero credibility

Hmmmm nothing, must be in disguise on here if she is here at all?

Zero Objectivity when getting paid a few thousand $ of dash per month??

I guess she doesn't care to face the board and discuss this?

Anyone know  anything about her? I mean if that is not her name then why choose such a strange name in the first place.?


Anything other than discussion of her paid involvement in facilitating dash/darkcoin will be moderated. We just need to get to the truth.


A known dash zealot called qwizzie is saying this thread breaks forum rules. Oh really how come he does not object to all the other threads on here examining factual events and evidences that people are scamming and facilitating scams. This is exactly the place to examine evidence indicating scams and scammers. Trying to stop this public analysis of factual evidence is very telling about how worried qwizzie and his fellow dashers are about it all. Why try to hush it up if there is nothing to find from looking at these factual events.

We are not allowed to analyse the facts now that are plain for all to see.  

I wonder how many pieces of shillver qwizzie will try to bride a mod with to delete a thread asking for factual and observable events to be banned.




You don't know what a ponzi scheme means yet. A Ponzi Scheme is when someone claims that someone will get HUGE GAINS, but in actuality they're taking money from people and paying it to others. You can earn DASH from either mining or becoming a Masternode operator. Meaning that money is generated, not traded from person to person. This means that you are being slanderous and liable, by default. Now people need to find out if you are lying for malicious purposes.

I disagree with you. Ponzi is what masternodes are in the case of dash since they took the coins required to set them up for almost free. They do nothing (those that mined up 2million in the first few hours. They use those coins they took for free to just set up masternodes (for free apart from small hosting costs) and now suck up money from miners (paying with electricity) or investors directly. Yes some people have bought dash on the free market and paid a high cost to set up a masternode. Sadly buying those scam tokens has inflated the price and contributed to the wealth of those that hold the most dash that was mined in the first few hours. So they contributed to the ponzi.

The ponzi part is not my main focus. How about you stop distracting with my intentions and strict definition of a ponzi as you see fit and start answering the questions posed in the OP.

Even without masternodes (which are just the icing on the cake and ensure further self enrichment for those that took all the coins at the start) dash is a captive instamined scam that slashed the minting to magnify their ill gotten loot.

I'm not here to debate the dash scam this has been proven over and over in other threads which I can post here if you need to furnish yourself with the details.

I am here to discuss only those points explicitly mentioned in the OP.  Amanda Johnson.





Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: Cryptotraider16 on January 05, 2017, 07:48:34 PM
moneytalk! a lot of peoples got sold ass for money i see..;)


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: cryptohunter on January 05, 2017, 07:53:20 PM
ponzi -fraud in which belief in the success of a non-existent enterprise is fostered by the payment of quick returns to the first investors from money invested by later investors.


quick returns to the first scammers who took all the coins from money invested by later investors. YES

In this case the initial investors needed to invest hardly anything and the later investors are getting charged 10000x more. Imagine you mine up 120 000 dash coins in a few hour for a few bucks electricity then start selling them at 15 bucks each. Sounds like fun doesn't it. Imagine then passing that off as a fair release but no body got to mine except yourselves. Pretty quick returns.



the non existent enterprize ? well if that's what you want to call dash. It was a very enterprizing idea i guess to take all the coins at the start for free and sell them to later investors for 15 bucks each.

I'm not wasting more time here to discuss with you definition of a ponzi scheme. Even without masternodes to me dash is a ponzi.

If you wish to discuss this make your own thread. I will moderate any further argument on this point because it does not alter the fact I am calling dash in its entirety a SCAM get it the entire coin I call a SCAM. Ignore the term ponzi if that upsets you. Rather focus on the fact I am calling it an outright Scam coin.

I will delete further side tracking attempts with this non sense.

Do you not notice I said dash is a SCAM ? the definition is neither here nor there. I define it as a ponzi. You can brand it a different version of a self enrichinging scam if you like.

The point focus here is what I put in the OP. Imagine there is no word ponzi if it pleases you. Focus more on the fact I am questioning highly her motives for no longer being and objective reviewer of new crypto currencies and now being paid to shill only for dash. She never mentions to those she is encouraging to join this Scheme about it's origins.  If she knows it's origins as a SCAM then she is facilitating a scam and is therefore a scammer.



Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: cryptohunter on January 05, 2017, 08:11:23 PM
ponzi -fraud in which belief in the success of a non-existent enterprise is fostered by the payment of quick returns to the first investors from money invested by later investors.


quick returns to the first scammers who took all the coins from money invested by later investors. YES



the non existent enterprize ? well if that's what you want to call dash. It was a very enterprizing idea i guess to take all the coins at the start for free and sell them to later investors for 15 bucks each.

I'm not wasting more time here to discuss with you definition of a ponzi scheme. Even without masternodes to me dash is a ponzi.

If you wish to discuss this make your own thread. I will moderate any further argument on this point because it does not alter the fact I am calling dash in its entirety a SCAM get it the entire coin I call a SCAM. Ignore the term ponzi if that upsets you. Rather focus on the fact I am calling it an outright Scam coin.

I will delete further side tracking attempts with this non sense.

Do you not notice I said dash is a SCAM ? the definition is neither here nor there. I define it as a ponzi. You can brand it a different version of a self enrichinging scam if you like.

The point focus here is what I put in the OP. Imagine there is no word ponzi if it pleases you. Focus more on the fact I am questioning highly her motives for no longer being and objective reviewer of new crypto currencies and now being paid to shill only for dash. She never mentions to those she is encouraging to join this Scheme about it's origins.  If she knows it's origins as a SCAM then she is facilitating a scam and is therefore a scammer.



Amanda is working for DASH. If you don't want people working for or promoting cryptocurrency make your case.

read the op


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: iamnotback on January 05, 2017, 08:13:44 PM
moneytalk! a lot of peoples got sold ass for money i see..;)

I think it is like a geek, Libertarian wet dream that they can shack up with some Libertarian chick that is pretty enough to not need a bag on head while making love, but not bombshell model looks which would be an unrealistic expectation.

It is like the dream of every geek that his coding partner will be a really cool ordinary but pretty enough chick and they can fuck while sleeping under their coding desks. Ditto for the Libertardian meme.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: cryptohunter on January 05, 2017, 09:15:30 PM
sadly we had to say goodbye to lucas jackson. He cant stay on topic. Although thanks for verifying she is an employee of dash which we already know.

We're not here to discuss me. Start your own thread. If I have to delete your same comment more than 3 x I will simply report you for breaking the rules of the forum. You need to start your own thread for posting offtopic drivel. Thats the problem with dashers they think the rules simply dont apply.

We need to discuss amanda b johnson shilling for dash in light of dash being a proven scam coin.

Lucas jackson I call you a scammer for the same reason. You are aware dash is a proven scam yet you seek to facilitate and protect it.

Please don't attempt at debating whether dash is a scam here start your own thread. This has been proven time and time again before there is no need to revisit it now.

If you keep reposting your offtopic nonsense I will just delete it all periodically. Stay on topic.

Why not end this sooner. Just get amanda to make a video detailing her knowledge of the captive instamine and the slashing of the minting. Then we can remove the question marks and just brand her a scammer case closed. End of the amanda B story.



Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: Lukas_Jackson on January 05, 2017, 09:32:12 PM
haha :D this is funny. Don't be afraid man. This is highly on topic. Stop censoring you...you... dictator  :D


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: cryptohunter on January 05, 2017, 09:34:59 PM
haha :D this is funny. Don't be afraid man. This is highly on topic. Stop censoring you...you... dictator  :D

its not on topic... yes she is a paid shill for dash we know this. The rest of your trash questioning my motives and trying to sidetrack with is dash a scam is not for this thread. Make your own.

I admit it I have motives. I dont like scams especially dash. There that is my motive. Make your own threads for any further discussion on that. I wont stop you.

If I have to delete you once more posting the same off topic nonsense you will have to be reported for breaking the rules.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: Lukas_Jackson on January 05, 2017, 09:42:44 PM
haha :D this is funny. Don't be afraid man. This is highly on topic. Stop censoring you...you... dictator  :D

its not on topic... yes she is a paid shill for dash we know this. The rest of your trash questioning my motives and trying to sidetrack with is dash a scam is not for this thread. Make your own.

I admit it I have motives. I dont like scams especially dash. There that is my motive. Make your own threads for any further discussion on that. I wont stop you.

If I have to delete you once more posting the same off topic nonsense you will have to be reported for breaking the rules.

I had to unignore you for that man.
So you don't delete shit like this

haha :D this is funny. Don't be afraid man. This is highly on topic. Stop censoring you...you... dictator  :D

and posts from people who agrees with you  :D. Ok dictator, it's your sandpit.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: cryptohunter on January 05, 2017, 09:44:08 PM
we know she is an employee.

After this you stuff your post full of offtopic nonsense. You are a known dash shill I expect anyone can research your post history.

I am not interested in discussing the other issues that you are bringing to this thread thus it is offtopic and has been debated many times over ... I can not let the thread be derailed into a is dash a scam thread. Make your own thread for that.

I will delete you and use your posts as bumps only. I will post factual evidence that will discredit you before anyone reads your offtopic nonsense anyway. So you bump these threads to the top every time you repost and will be left with another post outlining and pointing people to read your post history that illustrates you are in on the dash scam too.

I dont care if she was openly paid to work for dash. The only piece of the puzzle we need to confirm is if she is fully aware of the magnitude of the captive instamine and the full effect the slashing of the minting had.

That is the primary interest here. If she is aware she is a scammer that the end of it. We can let the case be closed.



Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: Lukas_Jackson on January 05, 2017, 09:53:16 PM
we know she is an employee.
...

I dont care if she was openly paid to work for dash. The only piece of the puzzle we need to confirm is if she is fully aware of the magnitude of the captive instamine and the full effect the slashing of the minting had.

...

She likes you
https://i.imgur.com/b09OBlO.png

Dash is just a succesfull crypto you missed. That's it. Get over it.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: cryptohunter on January 05, 2017, 10:07:39 PM
we know she is an employee.
...

I dont care if she was openly paid to work for dash. The only piece of the puzzle we need to confirm is if she is fully aware of the magnitude of the captive instamine and the full effect the slashing of the minting had.

...

She likes you
https://i.imgur.com/b09OBlO.png

Dash is just a succesfull crypto you missed. That's it. Get over it.

Earned a good deal of it?? how is preventing honest miners from mining and having 100s of amazon instances ready to take all the coins Earning them? that is stealing them when you tell people there will be a fair launch. Then having stole 2 million of 84 million they decide to take away another 75% of the possible coins from miners so that their share was far far more huge than before. Again this is not called Earning this is called magnifying your scammed coins value and taking away opportunities for others to aquire those coins.

This off topic post will stay.

You say I missed it? ?

I say visit the first page of the dash thread. You will see there that I didnt miss it at all. I told evans not to launch without a windows wallet. Little did i know he would certainly avoid that and turn on super instamine setting for the coin then slash the minting by 75% ish

I was deliberately prevented from mining along with all the other fair miners that went there for the FAIR LAUNCH that was advertised.

I witnessed the scam in real time. Many of the now advocates of dash can be found there also complaining about the instamine.

Once I had witnessed it was a deliberate scam I had no interest in being part of it at all. It should be made to make amends or else be a pariah.

My motive is clear. Your motive is clear. These are no relevant and have no bearing on the observable factual events that took place.

This thread is not for going over those again there are many threads doing that in detail already.

This thread is for finding out how much amanda b johnson knows about this scam and why is she benefiting financially to facilitate it.

How has she not been branded a scammer previously I have no idea.

Any further offtopic post of yours I will delete that was a one time pass from your friendly dictator. Stick to amanda b and her knowledge and reasons to facilitate the scam and you will be fine here.



Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: Spoetnik on January 05, 2017, 10:11:16 PM
sadly we had to say goodbye to lucas jackson. He cant stay on topic. Although thanks for verifying she is an employee of dash which we already know.

We're not here to discuss me. Start your own thread. If I have to delete your same comment more than 3 x I will simply report you for breaking the rules of the forum. You need to start your own thread for posting offtopic drivel. Thats the problem with dashers they think the rules simply dont apply.

We need to discuss amanda b johnson shilling for dash in light of dash being a proven scam coin.

Lucas jackson I call you a scammer for the same reason. You are aware dash is a proven scam yet you seek to facilitate and protect it.

Please don't attempt at debating whether dash is a scam here start your own thread. This has been proven time and time again before there is no need to revisit it now.

If you keep reposting your offtopic nonsense I will just delete it all periodically. Stay on topic.

Why not end this sooner. Just get amanda to make a video detailing her knowledge of the captive instamine and the slashing of the minting. Then we can remove the question marks and just brand her a scammer case closed. End of the amanda B story.



Read your own topic title.
Then read what i quoted in bold.
Yes that is in fact the debate.. with out proof it's a scam she is just a shill.

You opened this can of worms and now you want to control how it goes.
Which is..
You demand the so called "instamine" is proof of a scam then refuse to let anyone challenge that assertion.
Retarded..

So what is left then ?
You kept asking who she is ?
What you need her Bitcointalk account name ?
Maybe you should have changed the topic title then LOL

Good luck with your topic here.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: cryptohunter on January 05, 2017, 10:15:37 PM
sadly we had to say goodbye to lucas jackson. He cant stay on topic. Although thanks for verifying she is an employee of dash which we already know.

We're not here to discuss me. Start your own thread. If I have to delete your same comment more than 3 x I will simply report you for breaking the rules of the forum. You need to start your own thread for posting offtopic drivel. Thats the problem with dashers they think the rules simply dont apply.

We need to discuss amanda b johnson shilling for dash in light of dash being a proven scam coin.

Lucas jackson I call you a scammer for the same reason. You are aware dash is a proven scam yet you seek to facilitate and protect it.

Please don't attempt at debating whether dash is a scam here start your own thread. This has been proven time and time again before there is no need to revisit it now.

If you keep reposting your offtopic nonsense I will just delete it all periodically. Stay on topic.

Why not end this sooner. Just get amanda to make a video detailing her knowledge of the captive instamine and the slashing of the minting. Then we can remove the question marks and just brand her a scammer case closed. End of the amanda B story.



Read your own topic title.
Then read what i quoted in bold.
Yes that is in fact the debate.. with out proof it's a scam she is just a shill.

You opened this can of worms and now you want to control how it goes.
Which is..
You demand the so called "instamine" is proof of a scam then refuse to let anyone challenge that assertion.
Retarded..

So what is left then ?
You kept asking who she is ?
What you need her Bitcointalk account name ?
Maybe you should have changed the topic title then LOL

Good luck with your topic here.

If you had enlarged the next sentance then it would have been clearer to you my reason for it being offtopic. It has already been proven over and over. But anyway since you are here ....

Let me hear it from you then spot ... in your opinion.

Is dash an captive instamined scam coin or not . YES OR NO?

Yes or no will suffice. If not I would care to detain you here longer to examine this with you specifically in another thread which I can link to from this OP.

I am not interested if it is less or more of a scam than other scams. There are many scams we can not address them all here and muddle them altogether.

Simply in your opinion is dash a captive instamined scam coin? yes or no?

I am only interested in your opinion on whether dash is a instamined scam coin or not. Nothing else unless you want to discuss the OP in detail. Anything else is simply for another thread.

If you dont consider it an instamined scam coin then please explain in full how you reach this conclusion.

I know you have read at length all the evidence that is was an instamined scam coin but I post it for further reading on the OP now to furnish new readers with the details and the proof.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: Lukas_Jackson on January 05, 2017, 10:20:21 PM

Let me hear it from you then spot ... in your opinion.

Is dash an captive instamined scam coin or not . YES OR NO?

Yes or no will suffice. If not I would care to detain you here longer to examine this with you specifically in another thread which I can link to from this OP.

I am not interested if it is less or more of a scam than other scams.

Simply in your opinion is dash a captive instamined scam coin? yes or no?


This is so offtopic.

OP states

...

Anything other than discussion of her paid involvement in facilitating dash/darkcoin will be moderated. We just need to get to the truth.
...



Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: Lukas_Jackson on January 05, 2017, 10:21:28 PM
Deleted post  ;)

Man, you call legitimate person a scammer? She is one of the first people employed by the blockchain.

She works for Dash thanks to Blockchain Governance (https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=8585240#suk=)

Here (https://www.dashcentral.org/p/renew-dash-detailed) is her approved proposal.

This is very on topic so don't delete it.



By the way this is you. Don't you think this is laughable and highly hipocritical of you?

https://i.imgur.com/XHu2eBq.png

You are real scammer with agenda at play. Also probably paid shill, butthurt or simply Legendary :o kid who doesn't know where to fit in.


Ps. This thread explains a lot Does crypto SUCCESS = SCAM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1561442.msg15670731#msg15670731)


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: cryptohunter on January 05, 2017, 10:30:35 PM
Deleted post  ;)

Man, you call legitimate person a scammer? She is one of the first people employed by the blockchain.

She works for Dash thanks to Blockchain Governance (https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=8585240#suk=)

Here (https://www.dashcentral.org/p/renew-dash-detailed) is her approved proposal.

This is very on topic so don't delete it.



By the way this is you. Don't you think this is laughable and highly hipocritical of you?

https://i.imgur.com/XHu2eBq.png

You are real scammer with agenda at play. Also probably paid shill, butthurt or simply Legendary :o kid who doesn't know where to fit in.


Ps. This thread explains a lot Does crypto SUCCESS = SCAM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1561442.msg15670731#msg15670731)


Do you know what I didnt even read most of this post because it started going offtopic...

However now I read it I want to fully examine it at length.

What is that red writing and where did you make it up from??

Please explain since I feel you have your wires crossed here.

Where are those comments from exactly? looks like lies that I will full examine here with you in another thread please make one.

why have you not come forward with this amazing evidence before.

I've already told you my motives can they be stronger than that I consider dash a scam and was prevented from mining at the start on purpose?

Please lets investigate these claims in detail, but not here this is amanda b johnsons time to shine.

Those accusations written in red seem like foundless allegations. Show me proof for any one of them although most are just complaints about their scams getting highlighted which seems to have upset them?

Simcoin ?? the fact everyone who invested got scammed including me makes me a scammer because I dont make a scam thread for it. Sorry but others have to take some responsibility I cant fight every scam by myself.

Restore access to my accounts and funds you thieves? errr what accounts what funds this is obviously not intended for me?

Is this some photoshop junk you post here or what?

Is this all you have. Besides I could be the devil and it would not matter if we discuss only the observable factual events regarding the OP.

People can read and decide for themselves.
 


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: toknormal on January 05, 2017, 10:52:01 PM

People can read and decide for themselves.

You don't say  ::)


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: cryptohunter on January 05, 2017, 11:00:40 PM

Let me hear it from you then spot ... in your opinion.

Is dash an captive instamined scam coin or not . YES OR NO?

Yes or no will suffice. If not I would care to detain you here longer to examine this with you specifically in another thread which I can link to from this OP.

I am not interested if it is less or more of a scam than other scams.

Simply in your opinion is dash a captive instamined scam coin? yes or no?


This is so offtopic.

OP states

...

Anything other than discussion of her paid involvement in facilitating dash/darkcoin will be moderated. We just need to get to the truth.
...



Youre a confused man.

1 You repeat posting queries as to whether dash is an instamined scam coin.
2 I delete them as offtopic as I say this has already been established before many time on many threads.
3.You post again
4.Others stick up for you and say I should answer your query regarding dash being a confirmed scam
5. Ok i start to answer you and entertain such exploration temporarily at yours and others request
6. You then complain and say my exploration with you guys is offtopic

Please first relax take your time think it all through then post when you have a clear thought process that makes sense from begining to end.

I dont enjoy deleting your posts at all. I like to converse with others  but you have to be on topic else the thread gets all confusing and muddled.

Please review the OP i have posted there now links to assist your understanding as to why I consider dash a instamined scam coin. After reading all of those links and the evidence there within if you still have questions open a new thread and I will spend my time helping you see the truth.



Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: iamnotback on January 06, 2017, 01:42:32 AM
WHO FUCKING CARES IF DASH IS A SCAM OR NOT.

THE TECHNOLOGY IS SHIT ANYWAY.

AND AMANDA ISN'T A DOMAIN EXPERT.

LET GEEKS WASTE THEIR BTC HOW EVER THEY WANT TO.

WHAT IS INTERESTING IS HOW DASH IS MARKETED TO THE FOOLISH SPECULATORS (e.g. a wet dream chick to entice the nerds and libertards (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1740313.msg17411973#msg17411973)), NOT TO THOSE WHO WOULD ADOPT IT. (This was after the lady in the Gstring when they marketed the sodapop Dash vending machine)

BUT WHAT DO YOU EXPECT FOR A PROJECT WHICH HAD A HIGH SCHOOL MATH ERROR IN INSTANTX.

Quote from: @AnonyMint's whitepaper
2.2.2 Dash

For InstantX[^InstantX], Dash[^Dash] (originally named DarkCoin) employs the randomness of each block hash generated by PoW, modulated by the hash of the transaction being confirmed, to select a subset of the delegate masternodes to employ for the set of random witnesses for each block epoch for said transaction. Witnesses vote for a quorum on each transaction separately; and these quorums are supposedly recorded in the next PoW block although the game theory is not well established. This conflation of PoW with a DPoS-like witness set, subsumes the otherwise deterministic or inconclusive Byzantine agreement finality of InstantX by making it dependent on the orphaning (aka “chain reorganizations”) of PoW’s probabilistic, asymptotic but never 100% conclusive transaction finality,[^Evolution] while incurring the adverse security and economies-of-scale power vacuum implications of both the stake resource for the masternodes and PoW mining resources,[^Dash-chart] excepting that potential stalling by the temporal set of witnesses in InstantX is overruled by the never stalled block production of PoW. The high school level math for the InstantX’s security description was (at least originally) in error.[^math-error]


[^InstantX] Evan Duffield, Holger Schinzel, Fernando Gutierrez. Transaction Locking and Masternode Consensus: A Mechanism for Mitigating Double Spending Attacks (https://www.dash.org/instantx/). Document version 2, Sep 22, 2014.

[^Dash] Dash (cryptocurrency) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dash_(cryptocurrency)). Wikipedia.

[^Evolution] Shelby Moore III, InstantX and Evolution vulnerable to chain reorganizations (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1203793.msg12763187#msg12763187), Bitcointalk.org, “Dash Codename ‘Evolution’” thread, post #40, Oct 23 2015.

[^Dash-chart] Shelby Moore III, Correction to Dash’s promotional comparison chart (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1290263.msg13308073#msg13308073), Bitcointalk.org, “Honestly, which is better? Monero or Dash?” thread, post #143, Dec 20, 2015.

[^math-error] Shelby Moore III, InstantX probability of security math error (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1219023.msg13288915#msg13288915), Bitcointalk.org, “[neㄘcash, ᨇcash, net⚷eys, or viᖚes?] Name AnonyMint's vapor coin?” thread, post #477, Dec 18, 2015.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: iamnotback on January 06, 2017, 03:04:56 AM
My point is I wouldn't blame Amanda for capitalizing on her marketability. I don't think it is fair to accuse her of being a fraud. Isn't it a valid activity to pursue one's marketability? Did she ever claim to be a domain expert. I don't think so.

The speculators reap what they sow.

In my youth, I sometimes shared those fantasies of a chick coder in blue jeans sharing my floor mat under my desk and Jolt cola (we had different memes in the 1980s).

I think the most salient point is how Dash is marketed to the speculators and not to some actual adoption market beyond the market of geeks.

I was just trying to understand the marketing effect that Amanda was capitalizing on. My point is at my current age, I wouldn't consider her hot enough to be worth my scarce time to pursue (it is no criticism of her as a person and she is not ugly, and she is not dumb). So I was trying to understand what captivated other guys. But now thinking more about it, I realize her marketability caters to the fantasy I did have in my youth when I had more time and resources to waste on wet dreams.

Note it is interesting that i am uglier now (blinded eye, aged, wrinkled, and sick) yet I get hotter chicks than when I was young and reasonably handsome (although my high school gf was pretty fucking hot at 5'9" blonde, blue eyes, long distance runner and perfect bodacious bod with long legs). Funny how that works. Guys get better with age, ladies don't. This is fact and ladies are well aware of it. That is why they are in a hurry to settle down and guys are not. Which is another reason they are attracted to older men (in cultures where marriage is still valued, i.e. not in the leftist, feminist West (http://www.rooshv.com/american-girls-vs-ukrainian-girls)).


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: TaunSew on January 06, 2017, 03:24:28 AM
My point is I wouldn't blame Amanda for capitalizing on her marketability. I don't think it is fair to accuse her of being a fraud. Isn't it a valid activity to pursue one's marketability? Did she ever claim to be a domain expert. I don't think so.

The speculators reap what they sow.

In my youth, I sometimes shared those fantasies of a chick coder in blue jeans sharing my floor mat under my desk and Jolt cola (we had different memes in the 1980s).

I think the most salient point is how Dash is marketed to the speculators and not to some actual adoption market beyond the market of geeks.

I was just trying to understand the marketing effect that Amanda was capitalizing on. My point is at my current age, I wouldn't consider her hot enough to be worth my scarce time to pursue (it is no criticism of her as a person and she is not ugly, and she is not dumb). So I was trying to understand what captivated other guys. But now thinking more about it, I realize her marketability caters to the fantasy I did have in my youth when I had more time and resources to waste on wet dreams.

Note it is interesting that i am uglier now (blinded eye, aged, wrinkled, and sick) yet I get hotter chicks than when I was young and reasonably handsome (although my high school gf was pretty fucking hot at 5'9" blonde, blue eyes, long distance runner and perfect bodacious bod with long legs). Funny how that works. Guys get better with age, ladies don't. This is fact and ladies are well aware of it. That is why they are in a hurry to settle down and guys are not. Which is another reason they are attracted to older men (in cultures where marriage is still valued, i.e. not in the leftist, feminist West (http://www.rooshv.com/american-girls-vs-ukrainian-girls)).

Dude we all saw your "girlfriend", she's hideous by her own people's standards lol.  They probably call you the Cow Fucker.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: Spoetnik on January 06, 2017, 03:27:14 AM
@Shelby
Ahhh another old school Jolt Cola drinker ;)

@cryptohunter
If you don't want me talking about that then i won't.
Although you did just ask me the question and yet you want only a yes or no answer.

And believe it or not i am more on your side than you realize.
If they are a scam generally speaking i'd like to see a variety of people post why etc.
But i see you wanted to steer this in another direction and i respect that.. i get it.
But you are opening up that can of worms because it hinges on whether she is a fraud or not.

What we have to do is go with Intent and what we have to prove intent.

I have to say what you portrayed for us all on how Dash was launched on this very topic does have me concerned.
Not sure i see a smoking gun as 100% concrete proof of a scam though.
I have historically been resistant of bashing coins for the claim of instamining.
Many were.
It's simply popularity a lot of the time.. then guys show up later when the diff is higher and scream foul.
Seriously look around and see what coins were bashed with that claim.

I am TRYING to not go off-topic but it's hard LOL
I am welcome to any and all criticism on Dash though.

On Topic:
Lets assume Dash is a scam then..
And we have this women Youtube star (whom i recall seeing before but never heard any of here speeches on Youtube etc)
So what now ?
Are you announcing that she is a scam coin pusher with this topic ?
What is this topic suppose to be accomplishing here ?

Lastly i appreciate you not deleting my reply here.
I will try and stay on topic for you.. TRY ;)
I'm just not sure where you are going with all this though.
Just trying to "out" the cute crypto chick ?
Slut-Shaming Dash and their Soda Pop machine ? ROFL
That was clever marketing too bad i missed it :(
NOTE: i tried to find the g-string / pop-machine picture and couldn't find it  :'(


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: Kayak gigantic on January 06, 2017, 03:29:58 AM
Where can i find this amanda b johnson. She's hot and she likes crypto. We gonna make a beautiful couple.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: Spoetnik on January 06, 2017, 03:47:37 AM
Where can i find this amanda b johnson. She's hot and she likes crypto. We gonna make a beautiful couple.


You may have to get past the hairy face man guy with big arms though LOL

Clicky Clicky For GOOGLE Picy Picy (https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=Amanda+B+Johnson+daily+decrypt&safe=off&tbm=isch&uss=1&tbs=imgo:1)

Note: the 2nd picture result has our dear sweet Amanda in a two piece bikini.

@Amanda
You are an attractive women just please no short hair thanks :)
And this is the sign up sheet for when Amanda is single..
So far we have on the list...

#1 - Spoetnik (first in line)
#2 - Kayak gigantic

Let the games begin.. sexual warriors mount your steeds the battle begins in a fort night !


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: Kayak gigantic on January 06, 2017, 03:49:06 AM
Where can i find this amanda b johnson. She's hot and she likes crypto. We gonna make a beautiful couple.


You may have to get past the hairy face man guy with big arms though LOL

Clicky Clicky For GOOGLE Picy Picy (https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=Amanda+B+Johnson+daily+decrypt&safe=off&tbm=isch&uss=1&tbs=imgo:1)

Note: the 2nd picture result has our dear sweet Amanda in a two piece bikini.

@Amanda
You are an attractive women just please no short hair thanks :)
And this is the sign up sheet for when Amanda is single..
So far we have on the list...

#1 - Spoetnik (first in line)
#2 - Kayak gigantic

Let the games begin.. sexual warriors mount your steeds the battle begins in a fort night !

How much to trade spots with you?


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: iamnotback on January 06, 2017, 03:55:43 AM
Dude we all saw your "girlfriend", she's hideous by her own people's standards lol.  They probably call you the Cow Fucker.

Perhaps you come from a white xenophobic Asian culture?

South Korean men often like brown skin (unlike Japanese and Chinese). And please tell me why so many very handsome foreigners (more handsome than me!) are hitting on my gf in Facebook and I have to peel the guys' eyes off her here in the Philippines even though filipinos don't like brown skin also.

I've had every type of gf. As I said, my high school gf puts your average white Asian stick no butt, no tits figures with their black eyes to shame. Do you enjoy hugging a GI pipe, personally I like more meat on the bones. (there are some attractive Chinese though, and I get interplay with hotties in Hong Kong, but I won't be entering a relationship due to the reason below...)

More importantly, what use of a Chinese gf when she acts like a spoiled bitch when her bestfriend says her bf always does "such and such" so then your Chinese bitch expects you to do the same so she doesn't lose face.

My gf is actually sweet and will be an excellent mother who won't give me headaches. And based on the two kids I have already (my daughter looks like a model but I refuse to share adult pics of my kids on this forum), I know my genetics will improve hers any way for child bearing. Only my daughter is lacking height to be a model.

Hey let's meet for some competition young Asian bitch (I'll be in a Singapore Jan 12 - 19). What sport do you do bitch? Masturbation?


https://www.chinalovematch.net/magazineArticle.aspx?urlname=Never-Marry-A-Chinese-Woman
http://www.china-mike.com/chinese-culture/understanding-chinese-mind/cult-of-face/


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: leonardson on January 06, 2017, 04:21:34 AM
I believe she is a scammer, I posted on her youtube videos and deleted my comments, but it wasnt anything offensive, I posted in the video " Why dash is only number 7 cap?" I said "No, Dash is 7 mcap because people doesnt care about your "features", Bitcoin is number 1 because people do care about currency adoption, places where you can buy stuff with it"

And I forgot to add that a feature being inovative and unique worths the mcap, but an anon coin.. there are tens of them already there..


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: iamnotback on January 06, 2017, 04:24:45 AM
I believe she is a scammer, I posted on her youtube videos and deleted my comments, but it wasnt anything offensive, I posted in the video " Why dash is only number 7 cap?" I said "No, Dash is 7 mcap because people doesnt care about your "features", Bitcoin is number 1 because people do care about currency adoption, places where you can buy stuff with it"

Expecting a women to be interested in logical debate seems to your myopia.

She is leveraging her marketability. What the hell does "scam" mean any way?

Do you expect to control the marketing of Facebook? And so Facebook is a scam because you can't put your thoughts on their advertisements?

Amanda is a paid advertisement. She is doing her job. Are people scammers when they do their job as a paid marketer.

Why do you care if foolish geeks want to drool over here? Let them drool. It is their destiny.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: Spoetnik on January 06, 2017, 04:28:25 AM
Where can i find this amanda b johnson. She's hot and she likes crypto. We gonna make a beautiful couple.


You may have to get past the hairy face man guy with big arms though LOL

Clicky Clicky For GOOGLE Picy Picy (https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=Amanda+B+Johnson+daily+decrypt&safe=off&tbm=isch&uss=1&tbs=imgo:1)

Note: the 2nd picture result has our dear sweet Amanda in a two piece bikini.

@Amanda
You are an attractive women just please no short hair thanks :)
And this is the sign up sheet for when Amanda is single..
So far we have on the list...

#1 - Spoetnik (first in line)
#2 - Kayak gigantic

Let the games begin.. sexual warriors mount your steeds the battle begins in a fort night !

How much to trade spots with you?

Well if your down (and Amanda is) we can share the first spot.. Tag-Team style  8)

And Shelby masturbation is a sport huh ? Who knew ?

STEP ASIDE ! MAAAAKE SOME ROOM !  ..clear the floor ya'll ! ...Spoetnik's got this !

I plan on taking first place Gold Medal... i know i will have tough competition though after seeing the picture of Vlad's carefully manicured hand the other day here.

But yeah.. i guess the fact this girl is a Fraud is kind of a turn on.
She must be "naughty" then right ?
She'll do things for money is that what you are saying OP ?

hmmm i might have to buy me up some of them Dash coins then  :D


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: leonardson on January 06, 2017, 04:29:53 AM
I believe she is a scammer, I posted on her youtube videos and deleted my comments, but it wasnt anything offensive, I posted in the video " Why dash is only number 7 cap?" I said "No, Dash is 7 mcap because people doesnt care about your "features", Bitcoin is number 1 because people do care about currency adoption, places where you can buy stuff with it"

Expecting a women to be interested in logical debate seems to your myopia.

She is leveraging her marketability. What the hell does "scam" mean any way?

Do you expect to control the marketing of Facebook? And so Facebook is a scam because you can't put your thoughts on their advertisements?

Amanda is a paid advertisement. She is doing her job. Are people scammers when they do their job as a paid marketer.

Why do you care if foolish geeks want to drool over here? Let them drool. It is their destiny.

Then the scammer is the one that hired her, (eddufield) because she is given a dreadful script to say and manipulate..

She still says people puts money on Bitcoin and other currencies because they are "betting" of one of them being a "world currency" lolz, people is not betting anything, Bitcoin is already usable, working and fine along with most top currencies, if people were betting for a world currency it would already be above 50k usd each one.

The only thing missing for her to say is that Bitcoin is a ponzi and her dash the legit one.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: iamnotback on January 06, 2017, 04:31:24 AM
But yeah.. i guess the fact this girl is a Fraud is kind of a turn on.
She must be "naughty" then right ?
She'll do things for money is that what you are saying OP ?

hmmm i might have to buy me up some of them Dash coins then  :D

Just when I get close to wanting to put Spoetknots on Ignore, he write something funny and interesting.

I like this libertarian cock sucker for-hire theme. I think you may be on to something for a marketing theme and psychology of altcoin speculators.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: Mugatu on January 06, 2017, 05:33:42 AM
This thread is full of win


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: Spoetnik on January 06, 2017, 05:36:32 AM
This thread is full of win ?
It's full of sumthin'  :D

http://img1.izismile.com/img/img6/20130517/640/this_funny_meme_wins_every_argument_640_29.jpg

@cryptohunter

Did you contact her first and inquire why she was knowingly supporting a scam coin ?
No ?
You figured she knew all along ?
Well is this topic your attempt to punish her then ?

Did it occur to you she may just be an enthusiastic shill ?
And why is it the fact that she is a female a problem ?
Is it because you you think she is using her looks to further the scam ?
Or would a man doing the same thing be any different ?
Because i can name a few of those guys here pretty quick who go ignored.
(see the guy i pictured in my last LEO coin scam topic comment - does he look familiar ?)

Is she a sell out then ?
Because based on your criteria here i think we can call a lot of people sell-out's then.

What i want to know is if we had proper regulations in crypto ?
Would she be facing some charges or disciplinary action because of her Dash related behavior ?

And is it scammy if a girl winks at you and says.. psst hey, BUY BITCOIN !

So..
Sorry guys i figured i'd strap on my suit of armor and do a little white-knighting  ;D


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: cryptohunter on January 06, 2017, 10:02:26 AM
@spoetnik - my fellow dark scam fighter from 2014. Where we were both involved in highlighting this scam.. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.0

Firstly thank you spoetnik for confirming that I am presenting facts and that we can assume/accept/ darkcoin dash is a scam. Not that you should have needed to revisit these links in the OP since you have been there before with me claiming they are facts previously in 2014.

Let me answer your questions.


Did you contact her first and inquire why she was knowingly supporting a scam coin ? NO better to make everything public she can confirm or deny here

No ? NO

You figured she knew all along ? I think it reasonable she knows although as I said on this thread it is a possibility she does not know hence the question marks on the OP which I will delete once it is confirmed she is a victim of her own lack of DD.

Well is this topic your attempt to punish her then ? to warn others that she knowingly or unknowingly promotes a scam. To enlighten her is she is unaware.


Did it occur to you she may just be an enthusiastic shill ? yes

And why is it the fact that she is a female a problem ? I never mentioned it in my OP nor in my 2nd post outlining why I raised the the thread a female or male scammer is all the same to me.

Is it because you you think she is using her looks to further the scam ? didn't cross my mind

Or would a man doing the same thing be any different ? as above

Because i can name a few of those guys here pretty quick who go ignored.
(see the guy i pictured in my last LEO coin scam topic comment - does he look familiar ?) NO

Is she a sell out then ? Depends if she she knows about the captive instamine and slashing of the minting.

Because based on your criteria here i think we can call a lot of people sell-out's then. I take that on a case by case review

What i want to know is if we had proper regulations in crypto ?
Would she be facing some charges or disciplinary action because of her Dash related behavior ? If she is in full knowledge of the scam she gains financially from facilitating/promoting.

And is it scammy if a girl winks at you and says.. psst hey, BUY BITCOIN ! - This is for the is bitcoin a scam thread. However review the link at the top of this thread. I see once before when somebody tried to draw a parallel between btc and darkcoin and you didn't really approve of that angle of justification or excuse.

So..
Sorry guys i figured i'd strap on my suit of armor and do a little white-knighting  - white-knighting is one things. Defending a possible scammer and certain promoter of a scam is hopefully not the same thing.


Now going back and revisiting this part of your post is very disappointing and I would like to analyse it at great length because I will be genuinely shocked and indeed upset if this is a serious comment or one you posted just to be overly diplomatic.

"And believe it or not i am more on your side than you realize. - good so far
If they are a scam generally speaking i'd like to see a variety of people post why etc. - why question this you can see the links i posted and the quote are not my own. There are many may people in those threads INCLUDING YOU spelling out these are facts being presented and dark was a scam. Infact you call doge a scam and many other less proven scams A SCAM but now seem to be hesitant to call the most proven and analysed scam a scam??


But i see you wanted to steer this in another direction and i respect that.. i get it. thank you
But you are opening up that can of worms because it hinges on whether she is a fraud or not. Yes that is fair

What we have to do is go with Intent and what we have to prove intent. This is true

I have to say what you portrayed for us all on how Dash was launched on this very topic does have me concerned. I'm not surprised at this because you were very concerned to the point of calling it out for a scam in 2014 when even less evidence has surfaced. Your comments on the scam are part of the links I have posted on the OP so I would expect concerned would be the least of it.

Not sure i see a smoking gun as 100% concrete proof of a scam though. - seems like a change of heart? and yet you were sure in  2014? and are sure to call other coins scams that have less evidence supporting this claim

I have historically been resistant of bashing coins for the claim of instamining. Really I am not so sure about that having reviewed your post history besides as we know this is not your every day instamine of a dead coin this is now a 100M dollar scam. Not every instamine is a captive instamine? not every instamine has proof that it occured and the devs were the main beneficiaries. Not every instamine then slashes the minting to magnify their loot. Not every instamine is promised to be rectified by an airdrop that does not take place because only the minority of the board (apparently) wants it conducted.

Many were.
It's simply popularity a lot of the time.. then guys show up later when the diff is higher and scream foul. Is that what you now think happened with xcoin/dash...it was just a case of people showing up later and screaming foul when there was no foul play? when it has been proven that is not the case with dash as you know? so why mention it here?

Seriously look around and see what coins were bashed with that claim
." You are using this to defend dash doing it or not?



I want to stick to amanda here but if you want to start a new thread thread to renounce your previous view on darkcoin/dash being a total scam proven by facts presented as in 2014 and explaining now your new view that there is no proof and you see perhaps only a smoking gun then I will gladly listen to what you have to say.

If you want to white knight for amanda then knowing what you do about dash, knowing amandas long history in crypto currency and knowing about her receiving payment then that is fine. Although very inconsistent with your usual behaviour. Of which I must add I am usually a big fan.

I have enjoyed your posts before because you have seem consistent and honest. I would be disappointed indeed to see reason to doubt this now after all of this time.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: iamnotback on January 06, 2017, 12:07:46 PM
Is it because you you think she is using her looks to further the scam ?

didn't cross my mind

We weren't implicating your mind.  ;)

Come on guys, please stop pretending geeks know how to fuck. Are we already in 1984?

And Shelby masturbation is a sport huh ? Who knew ?

In Asia, even karaoke is a sport.

Geeks need to get their quickie exercises done during recompiles and app updates.

https://i.imgur.com/XENGD1c.jpg


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: iamnotback on January 06, 2017, 12:27:43 PM
This thread is full of win ?
It's full of sumthin'  :D

https://i.imgur.com/HgXGgCr.jpg

That photo has striking resemblance to some guy I think I know.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: iamnotback on January 06, 2017, 12:41:58 PM
The Dash Sex Toys gstring soda pop libertarian cocksucker rental payment provider adoption strategy is getting some stiff competition from SteamIt:

https://i.imgur.com/vKzGSbE.jpg


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: iamnotback on January 06, 2017, 01:10:53 PM
She always seemed familiar to me... but I couldn't quite figure out why until I realized ...:

https://i.imgur.com/D1iCt93.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/Y5B2TmC.jpg

(this is a serious post, the subliminal message may be effective marketing)


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: btc_zero_sum on January 06, 2017, 02:11:30 PM
@iamnotback

i really wonder how can you pretend to create disruptive tech if you miss to understand the basics of human nature and lack the proper amount of empathy to get over traditional beliefs.

people like you, despite the (supposed) bright mind, fail miserably because they are missing something they will never get (or at least they don't try to).

you sound more closely to a monkey rather than a man of the future that is going to be effective in the future.



Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: crypto jerk on January 06, 2017, 03:32:02 PM
She always seemed familiar to me... but I couldn't quite figure out why until I realized ...:

https://i.imgur.com/D1iCt93.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/Y5B2TmC.jpg

(this is a serious post, the subliminal message may be effective marketing)

I laughed my wookie ass off from this post.


May the force be with you


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: Spoetnik on January 06, 2017, 03:49:17 PM
@Shelby
Ohhh no YOU DIDN'T ..you posted a pic of a "Vajankle" at ME ?
AHHAHA you have any idea how many pictures of those i have posted here ?
I have a whole huge topic dedicated to those damn things man !

You do realize they were created to get grip on the floor for sex purposes right ?
The story goes they were invented because guys were putting "Fleshlights" into shoes..
Serious no joke !

Trust me i did my investigation work ;)

Such as on Dark Coin which i hated with a passion.
Mainly because it inspired the greedy idiots to boast about it.

Seems to me that is what YOU REALLY want to talk about here yet do not want to let anyone else.
I did not forget about bashing Dark Coin or.. Doge.
But it was far more the community that pissed me off with the deceitful antics backed by pure greed.
Akin to ETH fuckheads loitering on Poloniex lying their ass off about it to sucker in more ponzi victims.
And Doge ?
It's pretty obvious the fucking Doge meme was a blatant cash grab.
How do we know ?
The god damn dev admitted it !
What does it mean when the guy who launched the coin said "I started it as a joke and it just sort of took off.." ?
Does that sound like hey i tried to start a currency ?
Then the context.. MASS SCRYPT CLONING was running rampant.
That was not the only meme coin.. Kitteh Coin ring a bell ?

So.. BIG fucking difference bud.  :D
Speculating about intent with some coin and having the dev admit it are not the same thing.

I never have said i like how Dark Coin (Dash) was launched.
It's just that they have positioned themselves like most others.
Insta-mined coins or Flash-mined coins or even premines were common.
Like i said before "Intent" is what it is about.

Anyway you clearly have a hard on for them like i do about Monero. LOL
And we all know the two have a rather long history of drama.
And when i look at the two i have seen Monero shit to be worse in my view.
Anyone supporting Monero seems to have chronic amnesia and forget all the shit the have pulled..
then they quickly point the finger at how Dash is bad like that smooth's it over.

You would be hard pressed to find me defending Dash ever.
I simply focused more on Monero because it's Monero being shoved in my face non stop.

Seems all paths lead to a debate on whether it's a scam or not huh ?
And please do tell us all what coin YOU support CryptoHunter ? Monero by chance ? AHHAHAHHA
Your trying to call me out ? Look in the mirror bud ;)


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: cryptohunter on January 06, 2017, 04:30:54 PM
@Shelby
Ohhh no YOU DIDN'T ..you posted a pic of a "Vajankle" at ME ?
AHHAHA you have any idea how many pictures of those i have posted here ?
I have a whole huge topic dedicated to those damn things man !

You do realize they were created to get grip on the floor for sex purposes right ?
The story goes they were invented because guys were putting "Fleshlights" into shoes..
Serious no joke !

Trust me i did my investigation work ;)

Such as on Dark Coin which i hated with a passion.
Mainly because it inspired the greedy idiots to boast about it.

Seems to me that is what YOU REALLY want to talk about here yet do not want to let anyone else.
I did not forget about bashing Dark Coin or.. Doge.
But it was far more the community that pissed me off with the deceitful antics backed by pure greed.
Akin to ETH fuckheads loitering on Poloniex lying their ass off about it to sucker in more ponzi victims.
And Doge ?
It's pretty obvious the fucking Doge meme was a blatant cash grab.
How do we know ?
The god damn dev admitted it !
What does it mean when the guy who launched the coin said "I started it as a joke and it just sort of took off.." ?
Does that sound like hey i tried to start a currency ?
Then the context.. MASS SCRYPT CLONING was running rampant.
That was not the only meme coin.. Kitteh Coin ring a bell ?

So.. BIG fucking difference bud.  :D
Speculating about intent with some coin and having the dev admit it are not the same thing.

I never have said i like how Dark Coin (Dash) was launched.
It's just that they have positioned themselves like most others.
Insta-mined coins or Flash-mined coins or even premines were common.
Like i said before "Intent" is what it is about.

Anyway you clearly have a hard on for them like i do about Monero. LOL
And we all know the two have a rather long history of drama.
And when i look at the two i have seen Monero shit to be worse in my view.
Anyone supporting Monero seems to have chronic amnesia and forget all the shit the have pulled..
then they quickly point the finger at how Dash is bad like that smooth's it over.

You would be hard pressed to find me defending Dash ever.
I simply focused more on Monero because it's Monero being shoved in my face non stop.

Seems all paths lead to a debate on whether it's a scam or not huh ?
And please do tell us all what coin YOU support CryptoHunter ? Monero by chance ? AHHAHAHHA
Your trying to call me out ? Look in the mirror bud ;)

Not at all. You came to this thread . I never came to you. Call you out?? If I wished to call you out I would create a thread about that not start one about amanda b hoping you show up. However I am disappointed that you seem to have anything other than scam to say about dash. I was hoping that it was purely your hatred for xmr that had pushed you more pro dash. This seems to be the case. What else would I call you out for?

Look in the mirror?  You'll have to be more specific.

You base my support of XMR on what? Point me to a thread where I have ever even promoted it even once.

I have no interest in XMR because I own less than 0.5 btc worth of it even at current prices. I was not on the launch of xmr so I did not witness how it went down. If you want to start a thread of how xmr is worse than dash you will not find me in that thread since I am not bothered about xmr. Although for it to be worse than dash I would need a lot of convincing. It is difficult to see how it could get much worse. I tried to mine it I think but never got it to work. I put that down to not being great with computers because I never saw any others saying they could not mine it. I actually can be found on the bbr thread now since sadly I went bbr because it was seemingly better value than xmr. That was a mistake up until now it would seem since cz abandoned it and it is worth 100x or 150x less than xmr now.

I have spread my crypto worth over 100 coins.

Let me reply to your points again though since I feel they need clarification

It's pretty obvious the fucking Doge meme was a blatant cash grab.
How do we know ?
The god damn dev admitted it !
What does it mean when the guy who launched the coin said "I started it as a joke and it just sort of took off.." ? this to me in nothing like saying it was a deliberate scam and that they took all of the coins. How do I know? I was on the launch of doge and called it a pile of shit. However then I put a miner on it and anyone could mine. This is nothing at all at all like the dash captive instamine. There was tons of people mining it so ow you can be assuming the distributional part of doge is a scam. It was just another scrypt clone and it got popular. Did they slash the minting? to my knowledge the self destructed the coin with endless emission I still have no idea why the community went along with it
Does that sound like hey i tried to start a currency ? - not but it does not sound like a deliberate scam
Then the context.. MASS SCRYPT CLONING was running rampant.
That was not the only meme coin.. Kitteh Coin ring a bell ? yes i have some somewhere

So.. BIG fucking difference bud.  :D - yes a big difference those seem magnitudes less of a scam than dash yet now you're not as sure dash is a scam?
Speculating about intent with some coin and having the dev admit it are not the same thing. Yes exactly we have admission the devs took thecoins and promised to airdrop some back to the community to balance things up. They did not

I never have said i like how Dark Coin (Dash) was launched. You have said there are facts that indicate it was a scam and have called it out as a scam in the past i hope you are consistent with that now.
It's just that they have positioned themselves like most others. Really show me the others that captive instamined all the coins in such a huge amount then slashed the minting that are worth even nearly 100M dollars to me it is the biggest scam proven on this board
Insta-mined coins or Flash-mined coins or even premines were common. Yes and they died because of it
Like i said before "Intent" is what it is about.
but you were clear on the intent in 2014 it was an intentional scam and if it was not why did they not reset and restart the launch. If they were sad and it was a mistake they mined all the coins up in a captive instamine why then slash the minting to magnify that loot. Why not airdrop then to balance it up as they said they would


I'm not calling you out but in your hatred of xmr don't seek to go soft or seemingly defend projects you called scams before and seek to white knight promoters of such scams.

Remember you came here. I have previously stuck up for you in threads where people were putting you down or trying to shout you down when you were making valid points that I knew to have some worth. However here you are not making valid points your logic looks flawed and inconsistent the only valid point you have  made is the one I had already mentioned that she may not 100% have looked into the start of dash and understand the magnitude of the instamine combined with the slashing of the minting. SO yes she is either promoting a scam for money but is unaware, or she is a fully aware scammer. There is no other option here. Although for her not to know about it when everyone else in crypto does know about it seems very very very unlikely.

For you to jump in and ask for clarification again that dash was an intentional scam after you already clarified this for yourself in 2014 and for many others that alone is strange. To then say oh yes now that I have seen the new links in the OP and now I see that the thing happened but have doubts on the intent? come on you forgot all about it?? viewing the links only then raised your concern? you are there in those links yourself presenting those facts and when you were called out as fud you said that presenting facts is not fud. You were 100% sure in 2014 on the intent and should be now. XMR is no excuse for forgetting about or making pals with dashers. You seem to be employing the enemy of my enemy is my friend. This is not always true. Dash is a scam. You want to prove xmr is make your own threads about that one.

 







Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam
Post by: alyssa85 on January 06, 2017, 06:20:51 PM
Amanda B Johnson used to rock on the Daily Decrypt.

Then she sold her soul to these DASH wankers.

Shame......

I don't like her anymore.

But she ain't a scammer.

She's just a typical lass who's going after the sugar daddy that will pay her....

This. She's just a small time journalist who is a fan of DASH, and perhaps they've paid her to do some promo, but it doesn't make her a scammer. Just someone who is employed in advertising who believes it is fine because she's a true believer/ihard core fan anyway


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam
Post by: cryptohunter on January 06, 2017, 08:22:39 PM
Amanda B Johnson used to rock on the Daily Decrypt.

Then she sold her soul to these DASH wankers.

Shame......

I don't like her anymore.

But she ain't a scammer.

She's just a typical lass who's going after the sugar daddy that will pay her....

This. She's just a small time journalist who is a fan of DASH, and perhaps they've paid her to do some promo, but it doesn't make her a scammer. Just someone who is employed in advertising who believes it is fine because she's a true believer/ihard core fan anyway


There can only be 2 options.

1. she is a scammer
2. she is unknowingly shilling for a scam and getting paid from the funds of that scam.

There is no other option unless you can refute the facts posted on the threads in the OP.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: dwgscale11 on January 06, 2017, 08:28:19 PM
Why is there so many people even talking about this scam and shill?  Just dead it in your mind.  DSH doesn't deserve anybody talking about it.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: iamnotback on January 06, 2017, 09:56:37 PM
@iamnotback

i really wonder how can you pretend to create disruptive tech if you miss to understand the basics of human nature and lack the proper amount of empathy to get over traditional beliefs.

people like you, despite the (supposed) bright mind, fail miserably because they are missing something they will never get (or at least they don't try to).

you sound more closely to a monkey rather than a man of the future that is going to be effective in the future.

This young South Korean leftist said to me yesterday that woman's pay (in Asia I presume) is statistically 70% of that of men (guess he never considered the reality that women produce less than men on average bcz they have other priorities such as child bearing), and he said employers must be forced to follow the law which dictates equal pay for the genders (presumably in South Korean because I don't know if that is a law in the Philippines).

I replied to him that just because he can measure an inequality doesn't mean he can define a criteria of equality of pay for enforcement. I said how do you decide whose pay is not equal when each person's skills are so varied and unique? For example, there is no other person in the world who could write my whitepaper, so who decides whether my pay is too high or if some other person should be paid as much as me? Only the buyer of the services or labor can decide how much it is work, i.e. only the free market can decide. It is impossible for the law to decide. Also even the measurement is statistical nonsense, because the measurement criteria has the same flaw (but I didn't dare try to confuse his limited "intellect" with such insight).

He replied that I didn't not address his point, and repeated the statistic and said, "it is the law".

Sorry I don't know how to explain to your dumb asses, that you are retarded. I might as well be speaking with a brick wall.

Yeah you keep wondering how I can create disruptive tech you retarded leftist dufus. I don't need to apologize to you for your insanity. I know how leftism results in megadeath every damn time throughout human history.

Hopefully you have a few more brain cells than that idiot Korean dude.

You leftists claim that you are for humanity, but in reality you are for megadeath (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1373864.msg17233527#msg17233527). But you never quite figure that out, like a dog chasing his tail.

Btw, at the same time that Korean was making me depressed about the future of Millennials (I told him you youth can fuck up the world any way you want, I am old and I'll be passing on), a 18 year old hottie (white skin btw) was flirting with me in the immigration office. She provided her SMS number and I texted her that I was an old, sick fart, blind in one eye, etc and to move on. This made her more interested. Lol. Go figure. I think you have a lot to learn about the reality of human nature and this world.

After that, I got a haircut at the mall, and some gorgeous brown skin 22 year old was washing my hair, smiling, and joking with me and inviting me to her 22nd bday party on Sunday. I looked in the mirror and don't know how any young lady could tolerate my old face with eye bags and wrinkles (but I guess I do still look a bit like Tom Cruise with the very short hair cut, if you overlook the eyes or consider the side view). She was telling me she loved my ash brown/blonde hair (I guess she ignored the white hair on the sides, lol). I told her I loved her blonde dye with highlights (and true it looked really great, with her red lipstick looked like one of the Korean dolls on MTV but with a brown complexion).

Oh and there was also the probably mid to late 20 year old Chinese+Spanish ancestry (long nose, long face, while skin, tall, caucasian body type) looking lady with a 4 year old daughter that was flirting with me at the receptionist's desk. I think she overheard me talking and joking with my hairdresser that if I married a younger lady, I would have to give her a child and that I loved to have another child but I might be too old but if I could maintain my sports, then maybe I could do it. There was this Western young lady getting a haircut next to me, and so I was talking about how I read that in the USA young ladies are getting birth control injections which make them infertile for 6 years. And I contrasted that against the ladies in the Philippines who want your baby even if you have no money to support the baby. My hairdresser suggested I should impregnate all the women in the salon. I was purposely trying to make that Western girl (she was quite attractive btw) feel not proud about her Western culture. She was absolutely silent even though I made a joke, "why didn't you tell my sister was getting a haircut today". I don't think she appreciated it, lol. She was on my blind eye (right) side, so I couldn't really see what she was up to without turning my head (another of the "gifts" that keeps on giving from someone in my past life).

If I wasn't sick, I wouldn't have any time to post on this forum. Lol. Seriously I am fucking sick. And it is really depressing because I could accomplish so much but my health seems to be royally fucked up. And I am losing hope and patience. Lacking sleep again, abdominal pain, chronic fatigure, headache, can't function normally. Four years of this fucking shit (and 6 years of not always pleasant decline before that)  >:( :middlefinger: (to it all)

I am fucking tired. And posting on this forum is just a coping mechanism for not facing that reality that my life is destroyed.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: Spoetnik on January 07, 2017, 02:59:49 AM
@Kayak gigantic
Me & You bro !

We will find what town she is in then we'll rent a van and exploit her scammy ways.
We can pull up beside her on the street and hang out the window and say...
Hey baby, get in the van we got Dash Coins !

Then we can fork that block-chain hard  ;D

Sorry guys.. i know i ma a purveyor of crypto-perversions :(
I am a crypto-fornicator and i am guilty and am willing to accept my punishment !

..Hopefully from a naughty crypto-girl in a gimp suit with black leather zipper mask and a whip.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam
Post by: CraigWrightBTC on January 07, 2017, 04:02:09 AM
I dont take her for a scammer, she is beeing payed to advertise an product, that happens since... ever
IMO she is losting the majority of crypto populution, I use to watch her videos before, but after she fully join Dash I lost the interest....
I just think she is wrong on shes choice, but surely not a scammer
I think yes, she is just advertiser of DASH coin right now, i saw her on YouTube.
I don't think she is scamer too, if dashcoin try to scam the comunity,
doesn't mean she must be blamed because of it.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: cryptohunter on January 07, 2017, 09:02:56 AM
Had to delete all posts that explicitly detail carnal appreciation of amanda bj or that had quoted those posts.

Let's not go there. Keep on topic make other threads for that stuff if you need to get that stuff off your chest.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: BitcoinNational on January 07, 2017, 10:46:12 AM

press tit tute
Live Long and Prosper

---
you DuffBucks jackoffs 8)


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: Spoetnik on January 07, 2017, 12:08:47 PM
Well.. i had a feeling that last reply or two would be gone.
That is why i made sure to highlight "exploiting her" for "her scammy ways"
A joke.. a simple jab at what she would do for money.. very much related to the topic.
..barely ;)

I think the women knows i was just joking and i bet she'd be fine with my comment(s).
Think of it this way.. my varied comments here could have helped draw her out (into speaking with us)
I would find that more interesting that arguing about Dash being a scam.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: CryptoSporidium on January 07, 2017, 01:58:12 PM
Well.. i had a feeling that last reply or two would be gone.
That is why i made sure to highlight "exploiting her" for "her scammy ways"
A joke.. a simple jab at what she would do for money.. very much related to the topic.
..barely ;)

I think the women knows i was just joking and i bet she'd be fine with my comment(s).
Think of it this way.. my varied comments here could have helped draw her out (into speaking with us)
I would find that more interesting that arguing about Dash being a scam.

@Kayak gigantic almost certainly committed a crime with his post, and your posts would at the very least require investigation. Everyone understands anonymous troll vs anonymous troll is fair game for over-the-top internet speak, but Amanda B Johnson is not an anonymous troll, so what you're posting is totally unacceptable, and if she complained she could have law enforcement attempt to find you and take action. Even if you didn't get prosecuted and convicted, at the very least people who know you in the real world would know what kind of thoughts go through your mind ... stalking woman, threatening them with sexual violence. Your mother, sisters, wife, girlfriend, aunties, daughters ... everyone would despise you, and you'd probably lose your job, and those statements you made would disrupt and impede you for the rest of your life. You better hope Amanda B Johnson (or any of her family and friends) don't decide to make an example out of you. Imagine explaining your online personality here to all the people in your real life ...


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: CryptoSporidium on January 07, 2017, 02:02:56 PM
@Kayak gigantic
Me & You bro !

We will find what town she is in then we'll rent a van and exploit her scammy ways.
We can pull up beside her on the street and hang out the window and say...
Hey baby, get in the van we got Dash Coins !

Then we can fork that block-chain hard  ;D

Sorry guys.. i know i ma a purveyor of crypto-perversions :(
I am a crypto-fornicator and i am guilty and am willing to accept my punishment !

..Hopefully from a naughty crypto-girl in a gimp suit with black leather zipper mask and a whip.


Imagine explaining this, said about a woman working in the crypto area, to your family, friends, employer ... I'd be apologising unconditionally asap if I were you.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: btc_zero_sum on January 07, 2017, 02:09:49 PM
@iamnotback (last reply, i promise)

the fact that you keep calling my opinion "leftist" makes clear how your "limited intellect" actually stops you to get out of the box

i have to agree with you when you say "leftism results in megadeath every damn time throughout human history", this is damn right! every social structure that allows centralized power is doomed to fail.

we are here because we are fascinated by decentralization but we still make the same mistake and we are still the same humans that created the need for centralization.

this thread makes me sick!
the rampant and ignorant sexism together with limited personal views makes me think that we are still very far from a Change.
if you don't get what i mean i would not be surprised.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: BitcoinNational on January 07, 2017, 02:11:54 PM
aleix ... good BJ job ... i found the ignore button!

50% PREMINE DUFF BUCKS
jerk offs


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: BitcoinNational on January 07, 2017, 02:26:30 PM
TOPIC IS ...
Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin

still true


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: cryptohunter on January 07, 2017, 02:49:53 PM
I have tried to delete any posts that outlined offensive personal comments.

To those that were deleted from replying to them I am sorry but I don't want any swearing in this thread or any implied personal investigation or fantasies other than which are in the OP. I am not looking here at any other aspect other than her involvement with dash. Anything else personal about her is for another thread although I don't see the need for any speculation about her private life other than that to do with dash.

I don't want to start hearing about kissing and giving her flowers or any other more involved and private fantasies you guys have.



Some have messaged me it is offensive that her pic is posted next to that other picture of emperor ming or whatever. If she says she is offended I will delete that too but who is it for us to say that she would be offended? perhaps she would take it as amusing and who is to say emperor ming is not offended at those who are so sure it is a negative thing to bare a small resemblance to him. I will not play devils advocate in this situation.

This is all sidetracking from the OP. Please let's try to stay on topic.



Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: CryptoSporidium on January 07, 2017, 03:08:35 PM
TOPIC IS ...
Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin

still true

She's paid for PR and marketing, she looks to be sincere in her opinions on DASH, but even if she wasn't, it doesn't make her a scammer anymore than someone doing similar work for Apple is accountable for poor treatment of chinese factory work. The launch of DASH had a bad smell, and the tech isn't that good, but people are entitled to earn a paycheck,  and the launch happened long before she got involved. She might regret her work for DASH, but she's not a scammer for taking a job. Who would ever work if they declined a paycheck from a dishonest employer. Advertising, PR and marketing is business, people working for clients aren't responsible for their clients actions.

The OP has deleted all posts that refer to the potentially criminal posts, if anyone associated with AbJ wants details of them let me know.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: cryptohunter on January 07, 2017, 03:27:43 PM
@ crypto sporidium

I will not repeat what they said here I do not want my thread deleted over this.

You have said you have the entire thing logged if people wish to read it I don't want any mention of swearing or sexual stuff  here.

Let's move on. You want to focus on these things make a thread yourself. I will not have my thread deleted because I didnt moderate it properly.

It is deleted you can't ask for more.

How can I delete it and repeat what was deleted in full explicit detail. Kiss flowers and anything more involved/erotic fantasies are banned simple as that.

Anyone wanting to discuss the posters comments  can do it on their own thread. This is not getting derailed or deleted. How do I know who is posting this nonsense could be dashers trying to get my thread pulled down.

I will delete it and that is that. I have to say why it was deleted but I will not repeat the graphic details or else it is not worth deleting it is it?

I just came online and notice all of this and wanted it deleted asap. I can't be watching this thread 24/7 else it would not have remained there for 1 second after I noticed it.

Back to discussing the OP.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: Blazed on January 07, 2017, 03:38:28 PM
I really fail to see how she is scamming anyone. She is being paid to advertise a product and everyone knows it. I am not a huge fan of alt-coins in general but do not see how dark/dash is any different than the rest of them. Some are pre-mined, some get insta-mined, some get ICOs...they are all the same...cash grabs.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: cryptohunter on January 07, 2017, 04:08:58 PM
@ crypto sporidium

Please do not continue to use those words on my thread.

Make your own thread about it all.

I have answered you in detail on the other iota thread you posted on. I have no idea why you posted there. Make your own thread about the entire issue that thread was an Iota thread that qwizzie (dash shill) is bumping for his own gains.

Make your own threads not hide behind others.

You are stretching using the words r^pe and punching in the face. These are not explicitly mentioned and as one with limited legal training drawing your own conclusions and forming your own statements rather than directly copy and pasting what he said is dangerous for you legally believe it or not. I am trying to help you and much as stop my thread from being deleted.

You are making assumptions about what they said you can not do that however clear it seems to you what they implied . If you want to do that create your own thread.



Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: cryptohunter on January 07, 2017, 04:11:48 PM
I really fail to see how she is scamming anyone. She is being paid to advertise a product and everyone knows it. I am not a huge fan of alt-coins in general but do not see how dark/dash is any different than the rest of them. Some are pre-mined, some get insta-mined, some get ICOs...they are all the same...cash grabs.

Read the OP and all the contained links. If you believe all alts are anything like this then no wonder you are not a fan.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: spartak_t on January 07, 2017, 04:30:32 PM
Why anyone who's YouTube channel has less than 800k views and with less than 3k Twitter followers should matter? Hundreds of Dash per month? Not to mention she hasn't posted video or tweet for like 6-8 months now. That's a marketing failure here.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: pereira4 on January 07, 2017, 05:46:22 PM
I really fail to see how she is scamming anyone. She is being paid to advertise a product and everyone knows it. I am not a huge fan of alt-coins in general but do not see how dark/dash is any different than the rest of them. Some are pre-mined, some get insta-mined, some get ICOs...they are all the same...cash grabs.

I have no problems with Amanda B Johnson getting paid to promote products, in fact I think Dash is one of the few decent altcoin projects, my problem is when she started hating on bitcoin core and the blockstream developments, and then she started shilling bitcoin classic as a lot of people know. Getting paid to attack other projects is what I don't like, specially when it's crap like XT/Classic/BU or whatever is next.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: spartak_t on January 07, 2017, 05:54:47 PM
I really fail to see how she is scamming anyone. She is being paid to advertise a product and everyone knows it. I am not a huge fan of alt-coins in general but do not see how dark/dash is any different than the rest of them. Some are pre-mined, some get insta-mined, some get ICOs...they are all the same...cash grabs.

I have no problems with Amanda B Johnson getting paid to promote products, in fact I think Dash is one of the few decent altcoin projects, my problem is when she started hating on bitcoin core and the blockstream developments, and then she started shilling bitcoin classic as a lot of people know. Getting paid to attack other projects is what I don't like, specially when it's crap like XT/Classic/BU or whatever is next.

Any link?


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: iamnotback on January 07, 2017, 06:49:34 PM
@iamnotback (last reply, i promise)

the fact that you keep calling my opinion "leftist" makes clear how your "limited intellect" actually stops you to get out of the box

i have to agree with you when you say "leftism results in megadeath every damn time throughout human history", this is damn right! every social structure that allows centralized power is doomed to fail.

we are here because we are fascinated by decentralization but we still make the same mistake and we are still the same humans that created the need for centralization.

this thread makes me sick!
the rampant and ignorant sexism together with limited personal views makes me think that we are still very far from a Change.
if you don't get what i mean i would not be surprised.

The term sexism is only uttered by a leftist. There are two axis on a typical political philosophy chart. You can be economically conservative and socially liberal (but this is lying because social liberalism destroys economic conservatism).

Stand back and let nature do its thing.

Sexism is natural because it is a fact that women and men are not equal. Statistically women are greater at what women do best and men are greater at what men do best. There are probably exceptions on an individual basis. If this damned fact offends you, then it isn't my fault that you are irrational.

Sexism doesn't mean I condone any violence against women. It just means I rationally don't try to lie to myself about damned facts. You prefer to lie to yourself. The common trait of a leftist is irrationality and lying.

It is a fact that women are going to use their assets just as men use their assets. This is nature. No amount of leftist bullshit is going to change nature.

So stop berating me for your own fucking ignorance and irrationality. You are so fucking arrogant which associates you with the other pinheads here who are below your apparent intellect. Maybe you can correct this deficiency if you can objectively read.

I actually love women more than you do, because I don't lie to them about the reality of nature. You leftists lie to them and destroy them. That is a statistical fact. (I make no claims about whether I have ever lied about anything, rather I am speaking to issue of lying to women about statistical equality of men and women, or even equality between any two people as no one is equal)

Japan has an existential crisis. The youth don't procreate. The economy is deflating.



DooMAD went to one of those sites that produces a political philosophy profile and I think this is a useful taxonomy. CoinCube would I guess be on the right, upper quadrant. Eric S Raymond would be closer to me I think.

The view of the world through the eyes of Anonymint:

http://www.wearedecentralised.co.uk/anonymintcompass.png

The only "justifiable" standpoint in your view is at the very "right" of the chart from your (literally) skewed perspective.  Everyone and everything else is communist.  Your bitter tone implies frustration that the rest of the world doesn't share this perspective.  So you lash out at all the "leftists" even though you apparently mean to include people who would be viewed as right by those on the left.  The only ones who aren't "leftists" are the hardline libertarians.  The average person will never see it, but in your world Hitler and Gandhi are two peas in a pod.  Augusto Pinochet and the Dalai Lama are equally authoritarian.  They're all communists.   ::)

Thank you. I think that chart is a reasonably accurate representation of my perspective. Thank for putting in the effort to make that.

I don't think it is accurate to say that I wouldn't praise some of the traits of those who are on the same side of either axis as myself, even though they are on the other side of the other axis from values. So while I might condone some of the social liberalism of Gandhi, I would disagree with the economic totalitarianism. Ditto while I admire some of Thatcher's views, I wouldn't agree with totalitarian restriction of social values. Having said that, I do admire some conservative social values, such as I think abortion and birth control are self-destructive on a statistical basis, but I am not going to join some religion which tries to control the freewill of people.

Note however, there is distinction between having these values and needing to interact in a society that for the most part doesn't share these values.

My values free me from needing to control what other people do on a societal level (might be different in my interpersonal relationships). Economic right means I accept the natural law will impact the outcome, so nothing I need to control. Ditto my interpretation of social liberalism is that we all reap what we sow. Abort your children, you'll likely end up in a life lacking meaning.

The social conservatism and liberalism axis seems to not capture accurate the distinction between those who lie and those are objective. Why is that? The liberals lie to women about equality. The conservatives lie about the diversity of strategies in nature.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: pereira4 on January 07, 2017, 07:37:03 PM
I really fail to see how she is scamming anyone. She is being paid to advertise a product and everyone knows it. I am not a huge fan of alt-coins in general but do not see how dark/dash is any different than the rest of them. Some are pre-mined, some get insta-mined, some get ICOs...they are all the same...cash grabs.

I have no problems with Amanda B Johnson getting paid to promote products, in fact I think Dash is one of the few decent altcoin projects, my problem is when she started hating on bitcoin core and the blockstream developments, and then she started shilling bitcoin classic as a lot of people know. Getting paid to attack other projects is what I don't like, specially when it's crap like XT/Classic/BU or whatever is next.

Any link?

Well maybe not explicitly, but look at the video history:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH81LffRYOk

She started making videos on Bitcoin Classic and ignoring all developments on Bitcoin Core. They ignored the big updates like when 0.13.0 was released, if it was not for the Andreas interview segwit would have never been mentioned... tons of Classic videos which was the opposition, also reported on Unlimited.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6Sf7kcbDWk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2pD68Kvnns

Blockstream FUD making it look as if all core devs are in Blockstream etc:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oowBF70HxM

Here full FUD begins:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUFsNSpQsEU

BU shilling starts promising delusional ending of blocksize problem:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsfRTpqoYzM

"age of altcoins begins"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJkh3b_ykTA

Then she stopped the channel and started promoting Dash fulltime... I dont know, seems clear to me.

It started as a good, neutral program that had good videos. But it's clear as that as the subscribers and ad revenue grew, the channel took a certain direction and that was to hate on Core+blockstream while shilling Classic, then Classic was a failure, so Bitcoin Unlimites shilling started and so on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH81LffRYOk


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: iamnotback on January 07, 2017, 07:41:04 PM
pereira4, women are easily influenced by what others tell them. That is why I said trying to accuse a women of not being totally rational is asinine. They by nature are more socially influenced than rationally influenced.

So perhaps her social circle was convincing her that Bitcoin was doomed or co-opted or what ever. Hey and I sort of believe that too to some extent although I haven't committed much time to try to research the thoughts. I just see Bitcoin as a clusterfuck of centralization. The devs probably think they are trying to do what is best.

The definition of scammer is becoming so broad that I think all of us are scammers. Humans leverage their situation to their advantage. That is nature.

What is this thread hoping to accomplish? Discredit Amanda and Dash? Who fucking  cares. It is a tiny microscopic zit of a marketcap and who has time to waste on such irrelevant crap.

I am a little bit interested in the marketing effect as a matter of interest in general in understanding our ecosystem demographics. But as for trying to discredit Amanda, that should be reserved for people have nothing to do with their life. I think someone wants to be self-important in a tiny microcasm.

Hey I did it in the past (discredit Dash). I guess it is a right of passage. The only thing I am motivated to do is to explain why Dash's technology sucks but in a white paper setting (not in endless debates on these forums). Because how can any one appreciate good technology if they don't know the difference. But as for what people choose to do with their funds and about individuals in those ecosystems, I am not interested in wasting my time being the altcoin police.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: spartak_t on January 07, 2017, 07:47:44 PM
I really fail to see how she is scamming anyone. She is being paid to advertise a product and everyone knows it. I am not a huge fan of alt-coins in general but do not see how dark/dash is any different than the rest of them. Some are pre-mined, some get insta-mined, some get ICOs...they are all the same...cash grabs.

I have no problems with Amanda B Johnson getting paid to promote products, in fact I think Dash is one of the few decent altcoin projects, my problem is when she started hating on bitcoin core and the blockstream developments, and then she started shilling bitcoin classic as a lot of people know. Getting paid to attack other projects is what I don't like, specially when it's crap like XT/Classic/BU or whatever is next.

Any link?

snip

Oh my... this girl can be very annoying. Thanks for the info!


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: spartak_t on January 07, 2017, 07:54:25 PM
I am a little bit interested in the marketing effect as a matter of interest in general in understanding our ecosystem demographics.

There you go:

https://i.imgur.com/co3Xima.png

Making people laugh is probably the best way to get their attention. When having enough users as a base, you can then tell them there is something called digital currencies. :) Bad thing is that Facebook deleted our most viral video, which had about 9.5 million views and the page likes stopped. We were getting like 3-4k new page likes every day, but it seems we must wait until some other video (or whatever) becomes viral. :)


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: iamnotback on January 07, 2017, 07:58:25 PM
spartak_t I don't trust that FB metrics mean anything in terms of real outcomes.

Any real outcomes to report? E.g. sales, liquidity increases, etc.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: spartak_t on January 07, 2017, 08:01:01 PM
spartak_t I don't trust that FB metrics mean anything in terms of real outcomes.

Any real outcomes to report? E.g. sales, liquidity increases, etc.

And you're right - so far this doesn't mean anything. The real outcomes can be reported probably in few months (5-8) as we're still not ready with the currency. Working with your own funds and without 5k BTC ICOs could be difficult. ;)


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: iamnotback on January 07, 2017, 08:34:29 PM
"age of altcoins begins"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJkh3b_ykTA

Then she stopped the channel and started promoting Dash fulltime... I dont know, seems clear to me.

It started as a good, neutral program that had good videos. But it's clear as that as the subscribers and ad revenue grew, the channel took a certain direction and that was to hate on Core+blockstream while shilling Classic, then Classic was a failure, so Bitcoin Unlimites shilling started and so on.

She seems to be principled on decentralization and she is preferring to veer in the direction of what ever can avoid Bitcoin maximalization. That seems to be a philosophy and not a scam.

As for her affiliation with Dash, she perhaps realized that crypto-currency is doomed and she might as well cash in while she can. Seems highly rational to me.

Meanwhile someone like myself who threatens to actually offer a viable decentralization solution, is attacked by pinheads. Wonderful ecosystem we have here at BCT.

Love y'all.  ::)


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: spartak_t on January 07, 2017, 08:44:19 PM
Btw someone mentioned women's beauty. Here's the new Miss Helsinki 2017 (Sephora Ikalaba):

https://i.imgur.com/HdsRaTy.jpg

Nice, eh? That "thing" is 19 years old!


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: iamnotback on January 07, 2017, 08:45:57 PM
The Finns are much darker these days. Must be global warming.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: Spoetnik on January 08, 2017, 12:02:21 AM
@pereira4
I am impressed you tried to back up your mouth, good work.
I am leaning towards believing your assertion (even before you got some links)

A fly by night greedy crypto shill ? sure.. not what we consider a scammer so much i think.
Intent is the key.
Does she knowingly KNOW ahead of time that a project she is flogging etc is a confirmed scam ?
That can be a bit tricky to prove of course.

And i get a kick out of the Monero vs Dash guys using this as an excuse to attack each other.
The lawsuit commentary ?
Aww come on.. gimme a break guys.
What happened to chanting NO LAWS and Free market ? hahahha

All i know is i posted some joking commentary that i did not think was going over the line too bad.
I was sure my own comments were more entertaining than offensive.
The other guy though.. he did for sure cross the line.
But on the flip side, i refuse to feel ashamed for appreciating the female form.

It's not cool to slut shame girls.. or horny-guy shame men either !  :D


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: iamnotback on January 08, 2017, 02:06:08 AM
The lawsuit commentary ?
Aww come on.. gimme a break guys.
What happened to chanting NO LAWS and Free market ? hahahha

All i know is i posted some joking commentary that i did not think was going over the line too bad.

...


But on the flip side, i refuse to feel ashamed for appreciating the female form.

It's not cool to slut shame girls.. or horny-guy shame men either !  :D

After all the shit that has been written in these putrid forums, I have to agree with Spoetnik on this one.

I am not anonymous and anonymous trolls attack me every damn hour.

Amanda is a public figure and thus she is fair game for jokes according to the law.

You anal motherfuckers and those who want to regulate our pink shits ecosystem are really fucking loonie (and that includes you Spoetnik because you said you want regulation, lol).

Come on men, wake up to reality. Our pimple sized market cap gambling casino is just analogous to any other late night infomercial for breast enlargement pills. Okay there is a pooling of funds in our case, but apparently there is no global law against this. And each investor owns his own copy of the software and can fork the blockchain if he wants. We are buying software tokens, not company shares. Nobody owns the blockchain.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: BitcoinNational on January 08, 2017, 06:49:12 AM
"Does she knowingly KNOW ahead of time that a project she is flogging etc is a confirmed scam ?"
was she born last night?


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: iCEBREAKER on January 08, 2017, 06:51:00 AM
TOPIC IS ...
Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin

still true

How can this thread fail to mention ABJ getting rekt on BTC Uncensored?

Amanda B Johnson: "I'm a car salesman". Dash pumper Interviewed on Bitcoin Uncensored

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4r2gn9/amanda_b_johnson_im_a_car_salesman_dash_pumper/

"Pssst, hey nerd kid, wanna buy some used Duff-coins?" - Scamada B. Johnson, basically


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: iamnotback on January 08, 2017, 06:55:10 AM
Breathing will soon be a scam:

I bet you think fractional reserve banking is a scam too  ::)

Am I talking to a bunch of rubes that just fell off the turnip truck?  Of course fractional reserve banking is a scam.

It is the natural state of affairs. You can't regulate what is natural. So nature is a scam?  ::)

Did you forget what the free market chose to do in the 1800s by preferring to use fractional receipts instead of trade physical gold.




How can this thread fail to mention ABJ getting rekt on BTC Uncensored?

Amanda B Johnson: "I'm a car salesman". Dash pumper Interviewed on Bitcoin Uncensored

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4r2gn9/amanda_b_johnson_im_a_car_salesman_dash_pumper/

"Pssst, hey nerd kid, wanna buy some used Duff-coins?" - Scamada B. Johnson, basically

Typical iCEBREAKER exaggeration.

I am listening to the first few minutes of that and she seems to be very transparent about her philosophies. She is entitled to her opinion.

iCEBREAKER is an asshole who needs an ass whooping. I'll be happy to do it if ever shows me his face in person.

As if iCEBREAKER isn't also pumping his investments and attacking all those altcoins that compete with the ones he is invested in. Holier than thou asshurl.

Seems you are jealous that she is an effective marketer to nerd kids. You can learn a lot about a person by observing how they handle their jealousy.


That she doesn't know why InstantX and CoinJoin are shit technologies, doesn't mean she is an intentional scammer. She is not a domain expert. She is approaching this from her female perspective and being a relative newbie to all of this.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: BitcoinNational on January 08, 2017, 07:13:10 AM
 She is entitled to her opinion.TM
And a monthly paycheck for it.
It =  "her female perspective and being a relative newbie to all of this"

me ... ha ha ha, she's selling Duff's used cars.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: iamnotback on January 08, 2017, 07:14:37 AM
She is entitled to her opinion.TM
And a monthly paycheck for it.

So you are jealous of a woman. How manly of you.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: BitcoinNational on January 08, 2017, 07:18:47 AM
i never said jealous.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-D2wkKM3CmlY/UGIuld9mQbI/AAAAAAAABeI/TAX4FQ99HSo/s1600/manly-men.png

unless the shill can benchpress more than me ;)


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: iamnotback on January 08, 2017, 07:20:57 AM
Manly has more aspects than just physical strength (although that is one aspect).

Why the fuck do you have a problem with a woman thinking that Dash might be the way to create mass adoption via instant payments. And being paid to promote her opinion.

You have your opinions. You promote them.

Being jealous because she earns more than you, isn't very manly. Go earn more!


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: BitcoinNational on January 08, 2017, 07:24:55 AM
1. you need an Amanda B J, Esperanto.

2. "women thinking that Dash might be the way to create mass adoption via instant payments" ... thank you for nailing down the Dash sector ... premined used car bage ... I will add Ripple, Stellar, and Leo to that pile.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4r2gn9/amanda_b_johnson_im_a_car_salesman_dash_pumper/


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: pereira4 on January 08, 2017, 02:02:44 PM
pereira4, women are easily influenced by what others tell them. That is why I said trying to accuse a women of not being totally rational is asinine. They by nature are more socially influenced than rationally influenced.

So perhaps her social circle was convincing her that Bitcoin was doomed or co-opted or what ever. Hey and I sort of believe that too to some extent although I haven't committed much time to try to research the thoughts. I just see Bitcoin as a clusterfuck of centralization. The devs probably think they are trying to do what is best.

The definition of scammer is becoming so broad that I think all of us are scammers. Humans leverage their situation to their advantage. That is nature.

What is this thread hoping to accomplish? Discredit Amanda and Dash? Who fucking  cares. It is a tiny microscopic zit of a marketcap and who has time to waste on such irrelevant crap.

I am a little bit interested in the marketing effect as a matter of interest in general in understanding our ecosystem demographics. But as for trying to discredit Amanda, that should be reserved for people have nothing to do with their life. I think someone wants to be self-important in a tiny microcasm.

Hey I did it in the past (discredit Dash). I guess it is a right of passage. The only thing I am motivated to do is to explain why Dash's technology sucks but in a white paper setting (not in endless debates on these forums). Because how can any one appreciate good technology if they don't know the difference. But as for what people choose to do with their funds and about individuals in those ecosystems, I am not interested in wasting my time being the altcoin police.


You are right, I don't think Amanda B Johnson is a bad person conscientiously attacking on other project, I think she was convinced that it was the best thing to do so, and of course she was getting paid to do "the right thing" which was to shit on Core devs and Blockstream and shill the second comming of Jesus Christ himself (Bitcoin Classic at the time... now Bitcoin Unlimited).

As of bitcoin being centralized... yeah we got some problems going on, the thing is, I don't see any other alternatives, and if im going to risk money in a digital asset, I feel more protected with Core devs than with anyone else, in terms of "if I hold money on this coin... will it still be here in 10 years?" no other coin gives me this feel other than Bitcoin CORE.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: iamnotback on January 08, 2017, 02:48:33 PM
As of bitcoin being centralized... yeah we got some problems going on, the thing is, I don't see any other alternatives, and if im going to risk money in a digital asset, I feel more protected with Core devs than with anyone else, in terms of "if I hold money on this coin... will it still be here in 10 years?" no other coin gives me this feel other than Bitcoin CORE.

I agree. I know I have a decentralization (and instant transactions that isn't technological BS like Dash's or Lightning Networks) design solution which is not bullshit, but there is a hella long way from a design to a functioning, robust ecosystem and code.

The fun of being a developer is actually the challenge and then making it happen step-by-step, enjoying the challenge and creativity along the way. Then you don't think about the mountains of work in front of you. You just enjoy it along the way, come what may. But if you are sick and can't enjoy the daily creative process, then it is nearly hopeless to make consistent headway. The fun of developing is being immersed in it, but one can't get immersed if they are distracted by feeling like shit. When I used to code, I would forget what time of day it was. I would be at the computer non-stop for 10 hours and not realize 10 hours had transpired.

So yeah, you are 100% spot on. Maybe Monero is a legitimate code base nearly challenging Bitcoin, yet much smaller ecosystem. Maybe a few others that can nip at its heels.

The only way an altcoin is really going to make that leap to the development and ecosystem resources of what Bitcoin Core has, is to have the momentum of a rapidly growing ecosystem. Remember this. This will be very important litmus test if ever I am able to get serious.

Dash is trying to foment an ecosystem, but frankly I don't think they have to chops to understand what they need to do, nor the technology chops, etc.. But who knows, maybe we are incorrect. They are free to try.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: pereira4 on January 08, 2017, 04:21:07 PM
As of bitcoin being centralized... yeah we got some problems going on, the thing is, I don't see any other alternatives, and if im going to risk money in a digital asset, I feel more protected with Core devs than with anyone else, in terms of "if I hold money on this coin... will it still be here in 10 years?" no other coin gives me this feel other than Bitcoin CORE.

I agree. I know I have a decentralization (and instant transactions that isn't technological BS like Dash's or Lightning Networks) design solution which is not bullshit, but there is a hella long way from a design to a functioning, robust ecosystem and code.

The fun of being a developer is actually the challenge and then making it happen step-by-step, enjoying the challenge and creativity along the way. Then you don't think about the mountains of work in front of you. You just enjoy it along the way, come what may. But if you are sick and can't enjoy the daily creative process, then it is nearly hopeless to make consistent headway. The fun of developing is being immersed in it, but one can't get immersed if they are distracted by feeling like shit. When I used to code, I would forget what time of day it was. I would be at the computer non-stop for 10 hours and not realize 10 hours had transpired.

So yeah, you are 100% spot on. Maybe Monero is a legitimate code base nearly challenging Bitcoin, yet much smaller ecosystem. Maybe a few others that can nip at its heels.

The only way an altcoin is really going to make that leap to the development and ecosystem resources of what Bitcoin Core has, is to have the momentum of a rapidly growing ecosystem. Remember this. This will be very important litmus test if ever I am able to get serious.

Dash is trying to foment an ecosystem, but frankly I don't think they have to chops to understand what they need to do, nor the technology chops, etc.. But who knows, maybe we are incorrect. They are free to try.

Do you think Monero has a chance? I don't know how they can solve the problem of the bloated blockchain.. Monero's blockchain will grow like 8 times faster, nodes will become centralized at some point. If I understood it correctly, they'll try to control with with a dynamic fee but I fail to see how they control the blockchain from becoming too big. At some point it will be too big for people to bother with downloading it.

Even if they come up with something like LN... bitcoin's LN is better cause the nodes are smaller.

I don't know much about Dash, I just heard it was heavily premined which I dont like, also that the masternodes were exploitable, so doesn't sound like a good long term bet to me in principle.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: Kayak gigantic on January 09, 2017, 01:42:18 AM
The Dash Sex Toys gstring soda pop libertarian cocksucker rental payment provider adoption strategy is getting some stiff competition from SteamIt:

https://i.imgur.com/vKzGSbE.jpg

I wish it was that easy. Id be getting laid every singly night! Believe that!


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: PikachuYou on January 09, 2017, 09:41:06 AM
does she ? THAT is the question..........................................................

why you have to be so crude you fucking twat?

I don't particularly like Amanda ever since she jumped ship to DASH but no need to denigrate her like that....

 ::)


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: cryptohunter on January 09, 2017, 09:57:31 AM
does she ? THAT is the question..........................................................

why you have to be so crude you

I don't particularly like Amanda ever since she jumped ship to DASH but no need to denigrate her like that....

 ::)

can you edit so that his question was not quoted. thanks.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: topesis on January 09, 2017, 11:40:35 AM
For me she is just doing what she's paid to do. I don't think Dash has anything to offer to crypto space in the long run, it is just about marketing  and no actual real product to sell and new technology will catch up and leave them behind


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: Spoetnik on January 09, 2017, 09:14:13 PM
does she ? THAT is the question..........................................................

why you have to be so crude you fucking twat?

I don't particularly like Amanda ever since she jumped ship to DASH but no need to denigrate her like that....

 ::)

Apparently some women appreciate a little butt play.. https://rarbg.to/torrents.php?category=4


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: cryptohunter on January 18, 2017, 12:17:00 AM
For me she is just doing what she's paid to do. I don't think Dash has anything to offer to crypto space in the long run, it is just about marketing  and no actual real product to sell and new technology will catch up and leave them behind

Yes, but knowingly promoting a scam even if you are getting paid does not make it okay.



Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: guillermemo on March 15, 2017, 08:02:54 AM
any more news cryptohunter?
I'm so interested in this


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: catoshi on March 15, 2017, 08:15:05 AM
Scam exposed: poloniex exchange

http://www.nasdaq.com/article/op-ed-a-closer-look-into-dash-part-1-cm760740


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: AusKipper on March 15, 2017, 09:39:53 AM
For me she is just doing what she's paid to do. I don't think Dash has anything to offer to crypto space in the long run, it is just about marketing  and no actual real product to sell and new technology will catch up and leave them behind

Yes, but knowingly promoting a scam even if you are getting paid does not make it okay.



I don't believe she thinks its a scam, but then, I dont believe Dash as a whole is scam.

I think of Dash more like I think of BP or virtually any other major company, not a scam, but there is a bit of dodgy going on here and there that results in the odd oil spill.

Calling Amanda a shill is ridiculous, she is getting paid, and she is open about the fact she is getting paid.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: dinofelis on March 15, 2017, 10:04:18 AM
Do you think Monero has a chance? I don't know how they can solve the problem of the bloated blockchain.. Monero's blockchain will grow like 8 times faster, nodes will become centralized at some point.

When talking about scaling problems, small constant factors don't matter.   The transaction block chain concept is simply not scalable to very high currency usages.  The idea that all agents have to be aware of all transactions everywhere of all the past, is simply not scalable.  However, it can be useful for niche applications.  Monero is on the niche application of private payments that cannot be done with fiat.  I see this niche actually as the only useful one of crypto in its current state.

One should think of other crypto payment systems than everybody keeping the whole list of every single transaction that occured somewhere.  That is simply a crazy idea.  I'm working myself on a scheme that doesn't need that.  One has to go back to the drawing board and try to remember what is essential in a currency: no double spends and right to spend.  Of course, keeping a fucking list of all transactions done by everyone is a very crude way to establish this.    The most naive one is bitcoins: keeping the explicit transactions readable.  That gives away so much privacy information, that it is a night mare.  Monero is smarter, and obfuscates this.  Monero solves other problems that bitcoin has: block size adaption, tail emission (stabilizing against fee instabilities), regular hard forking, ....

Monero is really highly improved bitcoin.

But it still suffers from the basic problem that the right to spend needs that everyone has the (cryptographically obfuscated) list of all transactions of all of history.  It is, like most crypto coins, still a "transaction ledger" that everyone has to have.  So it cannot scale.  It can scale better than silly bitcoin with hard limits, because it will be limited by resources and not by hard limits.  But not all Germans can buy their coffee in the morning with Monero, no more than they can do it with bitcoin.  With bitcoin, they will NEVER be able to do so ; with Monero, technology is not ready yet.

The other problem with monero is that it is a proof of work coin.  As long as its block reward remains low enough, it will remain distributed.  But from the moment that its block reward becomes sufficiently high to go to asics, it will be centralized.  Unavoidable.  But proof of stake is not a solution either.  I think I have a solution, but one has to sacrifice to a certain extend "trustlessness" to obtain "decentralization permanence".  

My idea is that from the purely technological view, monero, at this moment, is one of the best technologies one can have if one sticks to "transaction ledgers".  I think that DASH is about the best technology that is out there if one sticks to "naive bitcoin crypto", but is way, way behind monero's tech.

As to ZCASH.  ZCASH is clunky because it is a copy of bitcoin, but it has something brilliant to it: ZK proofs.  It is a pity that this brilliant crypto tech is implanted on a clunky coin in a clumsy way.  ZK proofs are even better in principle than monero's tech, if only it were correctly applied.

But none of them can become a genuine currency outside of a niche application.  Because they all suffer from the "single block chain containing the world's transactions to be shared by everybody" in one way or another.



Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: cryptohunter on March 15, 2017, 10:35:23 AM
Do you think Monero has a chance? I don't know how they can solve the problem of the bloated blockchain.. Monero's blockchain will grow like 8 times faster, nodes will become centralized at some point.

When talking about scaling problems, small constant factors don't matter.   The transaction block chain concept is simply not scalable to very high currency usages.  The idea that all agents have to be aware of all transactions everywhere of all the past, is simply not scalable.  However, it can be useful for niche applications.  Monero is on the niche application of private payments that cannot be done with fiat.  I see this niche actually as the only useful one of crypto in its current state.

One should think of other crypto payment systems than everybody keeping the whole list of every single transaction that occured somewhere.  That is simply a crazy idea.  I'm working myself on a scheme that doesn't need that.  One has to go back to the drawing board and try to remember what is essential in a currency: no double spends and right to spend.  Of course, keeping a fucking list of all transactions done by everyone is a very crude way to establish this.    The most naive one is bitcoins: keeping the explicit transactions readable.  That gives away so much privacy information, that it is a night mare.  Monero is smarter, and obfuscates this.  Monero solves other problems that bitcoin has: block size adaption, tail emission (stabilizing against fee instabilities), regular hard forking, ....

Monero is really highly improved bitcoin.

But it still suffers from the basic problem that the right to spend needs that everyone has the (cryptographically obfuscated) list of all transactions of all of history.  It is, like most crypto coins, still a "transaction ledger" that everyone has to have.  So it cannot scale.  It can scale better than silly bitcoin with hard limits, because it will be limited by resources and not by hard limits.  But not all Germans can buy their coffee in the morning with Monero, no more than they can do it with bitcoin.  With bitcoin, they will NEVER be able to do so ; with Monero, technology is not ready yet.

The other problem with monero is that it is a proof of work coin.  As long as its block reward remains low enough, it will remain distributed.  But from the moment that its block reward becomes sufficiently high to go to asics, it will be centralized.  Unavoidable.  But proof of stake is not a solution either.  I think I have a solution, but one has to sacrifice to a certain extend "trustlessness" to obtain "decentralization permanence".  

My idea is that from the purely technological view, monero, at this moment, is one of the best technologies one can have if one sticks to "transaction ledgers".  I think that DASH is about the best technology that is out there if one sticks to "naive bitcoin crypto", but is way, way behind monero's tech.

As to ZCASH.  ZCASH is clunky because it is a copy of bitcoin, but it has something brilliant to it: ZK proofs.  It is a pity that this brilliant crypto tech is implanted on a clunky coin in a clumsy way.  ZK proofs are even better in principle than monero's tech, if only it were correctly applied.

But none of them can become a genuine currency outside of a niche application.  Because they all suffer from the "single block chain containing the world's transactions to be shared by everybody" in one way or another.


Can anyone tell me how bbr prunes the blockchain whilst remaining keeping anonymity ? please make explanation as simple as possible for an average to below average non-tech mind.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: catoshi on March 15, 2017, 12:35:13 PM
She is a professional Scam artist


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: Kayak gigantic on March 29, 2017, 08:28:57 AM
But does she take it in the ass?

That's what Im wondering about.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: cryptonia on March 29, 2017, 08:45:16 AM
She is getting paid to do a job.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: muddafudda on March 29, 2017, 03:18:39 PM
The dash amounted to $ 120 dollars, and its market capitalization exceeded $ 860 million dollars. In the previous month, its market capitalization was approximately $ 200 million.
With that in mind, the current dash reporter, and host Amanda B. Johnson had insider information. On Dash's YouTube channel, you can see the latest interviews with network executives and upcoming updates on the dash protocol.


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: Whtwabbit on May 13, 2017, 11:17:11 PM
How long and what did Amanda "Billyrock" Johnson do in New Zealand.
US citizens can only stay 3 for three months without a visa, otherwise she wold need a reason to stay longer, they don't just let any scammer stay in NZ for anytime they want

I would say yo would need to be fairly "connected" to the establishment to get an interview with Ron Paul, big red flag


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: koldtoft on August 17, 2017, 11:10:05 PM
Here is my problem with the original post.

It's hard to read it with an open mind, when the OP keeps "name calling" (in lack of a better term). If you have good arguments, logic, reason and truth on your side, there is really no need to call someone a scammer, over and over and over and over again.

It's like hearing two people having an argument, where one is trying to be reasonable and present the information, so anyone listening can make an informed decision and the other keeps interrupting with silly name calling.

Calling someone a scammer 50 times, does not make them any more of a scammer, than if you just say it one time, and explain the reason as well as present the evidence.

If you want to make a compelling case, maybe try to calm down and approach this from a point of reason and evidence, rather than anger and frustration.

I have a fairly big amount of Dash and would LOVE to know, if it's really a bad investment. But this post did not give me any information. Or if it did, it was too clouded in childish name calling. 


Title: Re: Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?
Post by: chosenone11 on August 17, 2017, 11:32:17 PM
i first discover amanda on her ASMR channel