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Ok I am not really a Zcash fan, technology is interesting but I prefer Monero. :D

But I did some research on ZEN, and there is a lot of development going on Github.
They have a big team, even one of their developers works for NASA.

ZEN has not less developers then Zcash.
Github is active.
ZEN is incorporating more technology for communication, governance and secure transactions = ZEN is superior to Zcash
ZEN does not take 20% of the coins, but a much smaller amount to secure development costs.

The price for ZEN is 5 USD, while one Zcash coin is 250 USD.
Call me crazy but I said buy ANtshares NEO at 8 USD, now remember this call for ZEN, this will skyrocket as the amount of coins is limited.

Take your time and do some research: https://blog.zensystem.io/zencash-overview-for-investment-professionals/

ZEN is just another shit coin that will not be accepted by investors. NEO is something new in China. Thats why it is raising.

The same way other coins will come out and claim to be better than bitcoin or more superior to bitcoin and at the end of the day they keep struggling. The issue at hand is no other coin can shine or succeed, if the developers are very serious about it, they could have given it another name rather than capitalising on the name of Zcash, the same thing with ZClassic and other Zseries.

I disagree in this case. I bought NEO early because the fundamentals were strong. I think the Zencash fundamentals are pretty strong.
Many developers and a smart team on board. I think ZENcash will stay and be Zcash rival.

@Olushakes

I think the name is not most important, the Z-name is obvious because of ZkSnarks which are the core of the technology.

Till today I only invested in XMR, ETH, NEO, but I seriously consider buying some ZENcash up just in case. I only invest in strong fundamentals.

100 % agree

This coin hasn't been pumped yet. It is not an explicit shit coin and there are multiple reasons why the price can grow up. It could easily be the next altcoin to skyrocket.

I'm with everyone on this. The amount of coins with qualified people devoted to it are few and far between. This is one of them. Hate sounding like a shill and no one knows if and when this coin starts blinking green on radar of investors, but I think it may be the best buy in the alt space. It also seems to be consolidating nicely.

What do you really know about this project, when you calling it names? At least give us some references so everyone can open eyes!
Zen stayed stable during BTC fork, hadn't been dumped like many others. But it is not immune on price manipulations, like we have situation today someone suppressing price with sell walls.
Real value coming from community, which influencing further development. You would be surprised, how many talented people are there with really good ideas! Team listen and evaluate!

I have been backing ZEN for a while, one of the few coins i see with potential that was lower value. Also have been putting all my rigs to mining it, but sadly the developers havent really been advertising it or doing much to get it out there. Ofcourse there is a youtube, and the posts, but other than that there isnt any real advertisement besides that. One developer talked about it recently, and that helped pump the prices from $5 to $6 but the market quickly bounced back to $5 and now is under the previous price point. The developers speech hasnt even been published yet, which is another issue. Really dont see the coin going anywhere until secure nodes are atleast in place and some strong backing from advertisements and exchanges.

yup. ima keep buying every time it dips under 5 and wait. tho there seems to be some momentum building with more and more posts about it so might not be too long before it starts moving now

Until secure nodes are added, this coin really cant do anything. Due to the terribly long block chain times every so often, i have been trying to transfer coins to bittrex and its been over an hour and its only half confirmed.

I see people, can someone explain to me why should i invest into this altcoin? i am really interested on buying a few coins.
What are their features? do they have a good acceptation/dev?
Please, if someone can help
Regards

Honestly I read what you wrote and bought right now some ZENcash. :D
They are not advertising it (yet), while their Github activity and programming is pretty active? I take it.



Look like I said: I am a Monero fanboy. I confess it, for me Monero > Zcash&derivates
I would also never move my Monero into Zcash.

But just from financial and trading and investment point of view: Zencash has the governance model, encrypted storage and communication, while Zcash has not.
Zencash is 2% of Zcash price!
Zcash cannot maintain this high price it is not going up.

Zencash has a real development team, scroll down: https://zensystem.io/
One of their developers is a legal ethical hacker working for NASA. Check other team members too, looks pretty good.

Take your time and do some research: https://blog.zensystem.io/zencash-overview-for-investment-professionals/

Thanks for your suggestion, i'm interested to learn more about zencash.  8) but it looks different with zcash.

Must. Resist. FOMO...
Aww, schucks! Zen's got all the right ingredients for mooning already! Getting in on the action

This is not story about PnD, this is serious project and more likely will grow rapidly in near future. We won't talks about Pumps, people might get wrong ideas and conclude wrong things about this project. For all those who wants to learn more they should visit our slack channel or our main thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2047435.0
For instant boost of information use this link : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ0v_lUnZHIKUQUXJzfgqOg

@Medar

Are you a part of the team or investor?

I think it would be pretty stupid to ignore a legit project like ZENcash, which is clearly an update to Zcash with several improvements but costs only a tiny fraction compared to Zcash.

I agree with OP that Zencash is a worthy competitor to Zcash and its current low price, holding some
can payoff big in future. Holding both.

I believe you. I thought ZEN was a shitcoin, but after investigation more about it, I understood its potential. As soon as I will get into mining, I will dedicate a part of my hashrate to it.

I've always had this in the back of mind.
But can Zencash surpass Monero as the ultimate totally anonymous crypto currency?
Or is it just Zcash's version of Etclassic and nothing more to it?
Cause Etclassic will always be in the shadows of it's counterpart Ethereum of which it was derived from.

Honestly my bet is on XMR. Monero community has hired 2 mathematicians who are able to steadily update the XMR cryptography, even some kind of Zk-snarks are possible. The number of developers in Monero is pretty huge and the Github activity is the same like for BTC and ETH. Even one LTC developer seems to have changed to XMR now.

But I do not think that ZENcash will be like ETC to Zcash, because their is reasonable development and further improvements of the Zcash protocol, while the price of Zencash is very cheap (5 USD) and the coins in circulation too. ETC is just a P&D coin. If I would buy a hedge to XMR it would be ZENcash, not Zcash which is just hyped up.

ZenCash is currently the best and most promising platform that utilizes zk-SNARKs also with an extremely talented dev team. That reason alone should have it sitting in the top 15.

Needs to be noted that if the elliptic curve cryptography in monero is cracked, then the anonymity algorithm will be cracked. ZenCash can't be cracked unless SHA256 itself is cracked.

Never say always in crypto.

Monero has a community backing it, but unfortunately there is a tendency from the leaders to pull it down. It is only a matter of time before it starts appreciating again. It is good to have some investment in it.

Monero is the leader of privacy protecting cryptocurrencies. Kovri update will strengthen this role.
But I have finally decided to add some ZENcash for cheap to my collection. Can only recommend their youtube video roadmap, its pretty clear that ZEN wont stay low at 5 USD for long. Let it only gain 10% of ZCash value, we are speaking here about 5X. But I would even value it higher, the coins in circulation are so few.

I absolutely agree!

On the other hand I'm less on Monero! I prefer the leadership of Rob Viglione.

Zen is a very well thought out project, with intelligence and a lot of ideas.

I own ZEN and  XZC too since that is also a good alternative to Zcash and very undervalued.

I watched an interview with Robert Viglione on youtube. He appears to be a smart, humble and honest guy with tons of ideas and dreams and the capacity to make them true. A fan of Satoshis vision. I think ZENcash has a good leader. He has even contact with Peter Thiel and is working on one of his projects.

So far my research is done, started accumulation.

Perhaps one reason in the difference between the $5 and $250 price is the supply, zcash has a listed circulating supply of just over 2 million, who knows the total supply? is it infinite? While zencash supply is 21 million. I agree zencash has not been pumped, I could see it at 300-500k sats. Can anyone list some of it's flaws? I've been researching zcoin and have heard it has better tech than both zcash and zen. Opinions?

Yes I'm team member, also managing campaigns. You can find details in opening page of our main thread.
Also i'm core believer of the economic freedom, investor in other good projects such Monero, Cloak ..

ZEN investor, and I'm waiting secure nodes to set up few on VPS.  ;)
Yes and i cannot stress this enough, you must talk with those people to realize how really deep they are in this, and how passionate and devoted  they are to this project! Entire community is involved, this is most important.

You can expect much from the team who is open for all ideas!

I've drank the Kool Aid on this one. Rare to see a project with such good resources being thrown at it. This will be a live coin and doesn't have to overtake Monero to be successful.

No the total amounts of coins for ZENcash and ZCash are both at 21 million but the current circulation is similar between 1-2 million coins. So ZENcash just from financial aspect is very easy to pump.

@Medar

Yes what I liked about the ZENcash leader VIglione is his passion and his openess, he is following Satoshis dream, not like Zokoo and Zcash who I do not trust.
I can imagine Zcash having a backdoor, not so ZEN because the people behind the projects are completely different.

I see people complaining about the ZCash Ceremony, but from what I've researched so far, it seems to have been a well-worked process. How did this happen to ZEN?

ZEN and others Zcash forks have used the Zcash ceremony keys.

The price of ZEN has been faling for a while but seems to have found a bottom, this reminds me of Zcash market behaviour before it pumped up to 400 USD. The low circulating number of ZEN coins makes this possible too. They have a pretty intensive marketing roadmap while they still have not started to promote the project but have the funds to do so.

Yes, that's one thing we can be sure of. I agree zen-cash it better than z-cash and it is supposed to be more valuable. I guess it is not happening because too many people lost lots of money on its predecessor, some still hold the money or even buy more, hoping that once they'll be able to return the loss. But they don't want to invest in another version of the coin, because their previous investment didn't end up very well. Thus I guess zencash will be always in the shadows.

One big difference is in future we will have secure nodes which are not classic master nodes, but still this will be also good opportunity for those who do not have miners equipment to earn ZEN's.


I would like to recommend reading of this document, because it is really written as reminder and as instructions for new members. https://blog.zensystem.io/zencash-overview-for-investment-professionals/

Is this some kind of PoS on top of PoW? So from the already low circulation of coins more will be bound to nodes in ZEN?
I have read that different from Zcash the whole ZEN network will be encrypted and ZEN will be resistant against censorship.

No this is not even close to POS, it is POW and 3,5% from every mined block will be allocated as reward for nodes this will be 7560 coins every month, and in upper post you have an examples if we have 1000 nodes how much will every node get.
On Bittrex we have 130k Coins in sell orders, demand for nodes will influence price increase 42x1000. this is 1/3 of all ZEN's on Bittrex. 42 coins is really nothing and almost everyone can afford it, at home or create multiple on VPS.

Yes you are right, all this is projected for this year!

Yes. This project is very good and has potential of attracting people. Too many people are investing into this project which means this project is going to flourish in the coming years. I don’t think so you should put any stress on it further. Those who are interested will themselves search about all this.

Someone trying to maintain price in this range 130-160 with much success, if he wants to sell he can, but no this is not his intention. Why would someone did this now when we expecting major rise. Those are not miners, they do not suppress price - never, they sell when  have chance. Day trades are those who selling in front of the wall.. ::)
Zcash going down, can we reach 1/10 parity?

Ok I think this updates could be very interesting.
Is the developer team for ZEN fully active and paid only for this project or?


I saw those 2 "bigger" sell walls on Bittrex. Looks like someone lets people sell ZEN into his buy orders, accumulating.
Thought about joking around with the whale and buying those walls up.  ;D

Popularity rising, many people showing interest for Secure Nodes, and probably many as myself will be very glad if we can see an video from this testings..Or at least few pictures like small presentation. This will have positive effects at price, at least those buy walls will be moved up. ;D

Charles Hoskinson – co-founder and ex CEO of Ethereum is backing this coin. In fact in the last Live Stream update it was stated that Hoskinson’s team has been helping in an unofficial capacity in the background. About a month ago, or so during a conference (where Zencash was also represented)  Hoskinson stated that the Alt coin market may be in a bubble, and only a few of the quality ones will survive; Zencash is one of those quality coins.

Steven Nerayoff – A venture capitalist in Blockchain technology (and other ventures) is also backing this coin. He stated he is very particular to where he attaches his name is only involved with companies that he believes will have a great chance for success. He is a member of Zencash’s board.

These two big names alone is enough to see that there is more here than just “another coin”.

This company is new and has only just started. As others have said it hasn’t been promoted/pumped yet, but that could change soon. They now have marketing and Public Relations in place, and I just heard that their Secure Nodes development is about to go from Alpha to Beta on the Testnet.
 
Secure Nodes will be the catalyst here and part of what will make Zen unique.
 
I urge anybody that is interested or curious about Zencash to attend the Live Stream taking place tomorrow (Wednesday) at 1PM EDT. You can ask questions there, they are very easy to talk to.

https://blog.zensystem.io/new-zencash-livestream-schedule-wednesday-1pm-edt-held-biweekly/

@Yorklab

Thanks for such solid information man. The people backing ZENcash have a strong background and also I listened to an interview of Robert Viglione, his spirit reminds me what Satoshis ideals have been and also the spirit we have in the Monero community. I say ZENcash will take a good chunk of the ZCash marketcap. This is not just a small fork like ETC to ETH but something better then ZCash.

It made me buy some more just in case.
Better FOMO first and now as long it is quiet before others do.  ;D

Zencash is still new, it's the best time to get in early. It's still under the radar. One of the main advantages is the secure nodes, which makes the whole system decentralized. I don't know any other major privacy coin doing this. Zen will be one of the top anon coins in the coming months. There is still a lot of money to be put into development, the team is strong.

I totally agree with that. I really like the new privacy aspects. However the public hasn't noticed it yet, but jsut imagine if it picks up like ARK or STRAT

zencash does look interesting, is it any similar with spectre coin? since both coins are focusing on privacy

Added to my position in Zencash. Its correction seems over so it just need a news catalyst to
take it higher.

There are others who can answer your question more directly, but here is a quick overview of Zen

Elements of ZenCash that are different and unique from most other cryptocurrencies. Others have them, but not in this combination:

Private Transactions – Advanced crypto technology (zk-SNARKs) used for private transactions, communication, and publishing. zk-SNARKS enable transactions of ZenCash without revealing the sender, receiver, or amount onto the blockchain. ZenCash also has traditional transparent transactions available for use, where the sender, recipient, and amount are recorded and available on the blockchain (just like Bitcoin).

Encrypted and Resilient Network Transport – Create and maintain a stable and secure network to operate Zen with Secure Nodes, paid for when a Zen block is mined. There will be thousands of Secure Nodes all over the world for ZenCash wallets to connect to, and network communication from wallets to nodes will be fully encrypted.

Funding for Viability and Growth – Ongoing funding of the treasury to pay for development, marketing, and partnerships. This is important to adding features, keeping applications current, and having a team who looks after and cares about the needs of the ZenCash users.

Inclusive Governance – Governance with participation by all people involved in making ZenCash work – Zen Blockchain Foundation members, developers, owners of ZenCash, secure node operators, mining pool operators, exchanges. All people involved with ZEN are stakeholders, and owners of ZEN are encouraged to participate in governance to influence the direction of ZenCash.

Since it forked half a year ago from ZCL it is now stronger and can focus on the important issues. Good summary of the benefits!

Do we already know when the nodes will be possible to run ?

There is no exact date, in coming period when all testings are done. Nobody wants this to become fiasco, so everything is checking multiple times. You can join slack channel https://zencash.slack.com/  and there you can join testers #securenodes and from first hand you can get information about progress. Everything is transparent.

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ZenCash update on Development, Wallets, Secure Nodes 08.14.2017.
https://youtu.be/E7v7jIb4qAw

Please visit us here->
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2047435.0

ZEN price and trading volume are heating up, already 7,50 USD from 5 USD.
I see this one going without problems up to 50 USD.

Edit: ZEN over 8 USD already. I knew such a good coin would not remain unnoticed by the whales.  8)

Very nice movement today! I think we see 10usd before weekend starts, happy i found this gem.

Soon release of nodes right? buckle up!

Just bought few of it. Following ZenCash for a while now, should have bought it earlier..

What a movement Zen easily can go to it's previous prices just need nodes and an major update as a trigger. This is still very good opportunity, don't waste your time starting price was 500k. Someone accumulated a lot under 160k so be ready for next jump.  

One thing that hits me when i watch the video updates is how amazingly clear, transparent and professional the team is. And the team seems big.

Here is the latest bi weekly update from 14 hours ago
https://youtu.be/_pxzbWSaymk

If you want to know why the price is moving up, listen to the Live Stream.

https://youtu.be/_pxzbWSaymk (https://youtu.be/_pxzbWSaymk)

It amazes me to hear how much is gong on in the background....but it won't be in the background for long.

The team keeps growing

Marketing hasn't started yet, but is about to.

New wallets

Ledger integration

Eastern European awareness about to kick off. (they're getting a lot of interest from Russia now)

Russian exchange next week.

The list goes on. This hasn't even started yet.

The ZEN trading volume today has increased fourfold.

https://i.imgur.com/MTPxGrI.jpg

Things are becoming more interesting!  PR machine warms up, soon will start! 8)

I saw on the Zencash Slack message board somebody wanted to buy $200,000 worth of Zen from someone, but nobody wanted to sell. He didn't want to buy from Bittrex because it would move the price up considerably. Eventually, he'll simply have to go that route.

Also, yesterday Evercoin ran out of Zen. You can sell, but no longer buy Zen on that exchange. One of the founders says they will remedy that situation.

Sooner or later it will be difficult to "accumulate" and they'll have to buy. That's when the price will start to move again. I wonder what effect the the upcoming listing on the Russian exchange will have?

And this is not possible at all, this is 50 BTC approximately and till 0.07 we have only 26 BTC's. Yes something happening  "Evercoin" was dry out instantly. And yet this is all without major PR impact. Wait to see what will happen after events such as "The Nexus conference".

I have the same intuitive good feeling for ZEN, like I had for XMR before it went from 2 USD to 15 USD first time and for NEO from 8 to 60 USD.

I will tell you what will happen: The low coin supply of ZEN and the strong fundamentals will lead to a sudden and strong rise in price.
This will drive attention and interest to the project. A positive cycle starts.

I see Robert Viglione from ZEN will be a speaker at the Nexus conference in Aspen...Roger Ver, Ron Paul, some of the guests.
Interesting TA: https://www.tradingview.com/chart/ZENBTC/Bwb20oZg-ZEN-Bottom-in/

bought it again today, more this time.

I will keep it for LT for sure, then maybe sell it for bitcoin when when it will reach 100$ :D

ZenCash was just listed on Singapore exchange coss.io!

This is awesome for a bunch of reasons, some big ones:

We now have a fiat gateway for USD, EUR, SGD, and others.
coss.io runs a merchant PoS system, so merchants can accept ZEN soon
The system enables merchants to seamlessly convert crypto to fiat
This is our first exchange listing in Asia, Singapore in particular
We now have a ZEN/ETH market

More details on our blog announcement.

https://blog.zensystem.io/zencash-listed-on-singapore-exchange-coss-io/ (https://blog.zensystem.io/zencash-listed-on-singapore-exchange-coss-io/)

we moving :o :o :o

Whooo!

Very nice, I told you with this strong team and development and scarcity of circulating coins ZENcash can easy go to 50 USD if not even more.

ZEN looks close to going above $10 soon. There is not much resistance in $10 - $20 price zone so
it can have a big rally up once it clears $20. Not trading in or out but holding it.

I strongly believe in this project.

Got invested as much as in Lisk or Waves.

Regarding the market cap it's more risky but it's the favorite one in my wallet.

The bulk of the value of altcoins lies in real world traction and adoption, not just merely technical details. If speculators cared more about just technical details, Ethereum would have surpassed BTC in marketcap already.

Thanks for the...useless post I guess.

Yes but this is one of the reasons I believe ZENcash will rise in popularity as they goal No 1. is to be a wide used currency. Robert Viglione said he also sees a lot of potential in expanding in unbanked countries.
Add to this the censorship resistance of ZEN and the decentralized encrypted messaging I think it is going to move towards the market cap of Zcash.

Ahhh...I bought a bunch of Zen pretty low and sold most of it for a slight loss. Had to reroute resources but always wanted to get back to it when I had enough money to hold it. Bittersweet...glad to see it move because it's a real team with a real product in a crowded space but bummed I had to sell not long ago.

Not sure how this coin can be adopted but it's very cool to see good tech people, active and actually trying to make something go. It's an unheralded project that has a chance to go somewhere if it's not too suppressed by the Moneros who own the space. Kind of like a great soft drink but Pepsi and Coke own 99% of the market. Tough to get very far.

And to think, it really hasn't started yet. Secure Nodes, Russian Exchange, Marketing kickoff, among many, many other projects about to happen or be completed.

They will have another Live Stream next week. I strongly suggest everyone attend if possible, they always have a ton of information on what they have going on.......and they have a lot. Their team is all over the world and growing.

I love the coin but geez the name is just so over done. Anything with Z in the beginning just sounds like a wanna be zcash. Who is the NASA worker?

It's crazy how scared monero spammers are about their their flawed non privacy coin with huge fees of Zcash and Zencash.

@25Hashcoin

Relax a little bit and go out on fresh air. I own XMR and ZENcash, its better to be agnostic. With RuffCT integration XMR further increase of anonymity will remove the last advantage of Zcash.
But yes I would never buy Zcash as a hedge to Monero because I like making money instead of losses. Zcash price wont hold or at least increase, while ZEN is still cheap.

I have researched the ZENcash team and fundamentals for a while and as I finished the research I panicked and bought immeadiately, luckily as it was around 5-7 USD. :D

We should not fighting each other, we are on the same sides, against the machine! We have more in common than you think, but yet our approach is different. Maybe we can learn something from our developers and managers who cooperate each others.

It's one thing to work together, it's another thing to blatantly lie repeatedly about the abilities of your tech....and I know some people in monero may tell the truth, but when you have 95% of users parroting around the lies it does little good. People deserve an education.

@Medar

I agree. Seeing some similarities in spirit between XMR and ZEN communities made me invest into ZEN.

Very cool, thanks for that. Interesting, is there a total max supply of zen?

21 million will be the max supply many years from now. Right now it's about 2 million.

A group on Telegram called 'Crypto Diamonds', which recommends quality coins for investment (not pump and dump), is recommending Zencash as of today.

https://t.me/CDiamonds (https://t.me/CDiamonds)

sad to mess up my avg price on zen, but think i need some more  ;D

Zclassic, the fork sibling of Zencash, is rising big for last couple of days. Is it worth holding some ZCL
as well alongwith ZEN.

I really like Zencash's current business model which, in my opinion, will create a lot off interest in Zen as time goes on; sky is the limit as far as I'm concerned. I just don't know if ZCL will gain the same popularity. That's really your call.

I agree that Zencash has a more active development team and think long-term it has more potential. It is also one of the reasons I signed on the the signature campaign to earn a few extra on the side. :)

Anyway, I was involved with Zencash even before joining the signature campaign and have mined it since the beginning by pointing a couple of miners at it, along with several other coins I actively mine.

I think there is room for more than a few successful coins in the marketplace, but the one thing all successful coins will need is an unique edge and an active development team. Zencash has both and it is worth a look if you are considering diversifying your crypto-portfolio among several leading coins.

I won't deny I have invested in multiple currencies (Cloak, Monero, Cann..), and 90% among them are "anonymous coins" which can provide secure and private transactions. This is still unrecognized by those who really need them, and my expectations are high!
Why ZEN?
Simple, at the current scene we have Monero , Zcash, Dash with high prices, and as such they are good investments but they do not have such potential for natural growth as ZEN wich is cheap in comparation.

today it reached 40% up
When to sell?
I believe that zencash is a medium-long term investment,  but i have to sell and rebuy at lower prices to increse the amount as i own a little quantity

ZEN has broken the 10 USD psychological barrier today. I won`t be surprised if this one goes over 50 USD.

My expectations are much higher considering how many efforts are put into this project. Slack channel has now over 2000 members! Organization is much better and events are more often. Many things are still to come!

Yes I have seen that the Slack channel of ZENcash is huge. This was the reason I first overlooked it as Reddit is for me a good metric of community growth.
Maybe the ZEN guys should do a little bit in regard to Reddit too. What is your call till end 2017?

This is hard question, but I believe we can restore previous - starting prices. In range of 500k and 600k this year.
I love to compare it with BTC, because it is easier than predict exact price in dollars due to BTC volatile. BTC can be in range 5k-10k.

Does it have big whale support?

Whats the best miner and pool for zencash ? EWBF's miner works on this thing ? If yes then how ?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2112138
Here you will find answers and also you can talk with other miners.


You can find information about miners here, it depends what GPU's do you have!
https://zen.suprnova.cc/index.php?page=gettingstarted

They may be waiting for the Secure Nodes to come on line another month or so from now, which explains why the price is slowly moving up until Secure Nodes goes live.

This project is a rare gem.

I am convinced of its potential.

Technology + community + leadership + partnership + secure node = ++++++

Now it just takes patience

Is there information on how to get the Zencash wallet set up on Ubuntu? I'm only seeing Windows/Mac here: https://github.com/vaklinov/zencash-swing-wallet-ui/releases

What is btw according to you the best wallet to stock Zen ?

I've answered you in main topic.
I think you have everything here. Short instruction ->https://github.com/vaklinov/zencash-swing-wallet-ui

ZenCash Swing Wallet.
https://github.com/vaklinov/zencash-swing-wallet-ui

I bought some Zen yesterday after watching this thread. I see a lot of potential for growth in this coin in the future. The marketcap is only $23 million.

After the little run yesterday and the sea of red in the alt-coin market today, I'm very surprised at how well the price of Zen is holding up. I really expected it to dip lower than this.

Interest always picks up after people find out what's going on in the Livestream they have every two weeks. The Livestream will be tomorrow (Wednesday Aug 30th at 1:00 pm Eastern). They don't have a link to the latest Livestream on the website yet but that should be up shortly. They normally have an edited version on Youtube if you can't make the live session.

https://blog.zensystem.io/ (https://blog.zensystem.io/)

I'm always impressed with all the things they have going on in the background.

it has potential to rise like other crypto curency but it take lots of time if there will investors who are interested in zcash ;)

This is a very good example of how to say absolutely nothing while using words. Despite saying near zero, this poster still found a way to be entirely wrong even in attempting bland cliche. Bland cliche would normally be redundant but this post makes it apropos. Actually, cryptocurrencies can often rise dramatically and quickly and have never taken "lots of time" by any investment standard or instrument. In fact, in the history of recorded investment, no asset class has risen faster. Not even a close second. Saying that interested investors are required for a coin to grow is something I won't address.

You would literally struggle to make a worse post  ::)

Thats what I see too. Now with approaching 12 USD I feel more bullish and waiting for the big outbreak.
The ZENcash supply is so low, that just small whales who try to enter during a price rise would push the price fast up.

I do not look at price to often, I know that this is super investment, with great potential. This small price increase is not significant, just showing rise of awareness and interest for this project and those are results of hard work of team. Next period will be more interesting. Many new things are in progress, and soon will start with delivering..Wallets, PR, Nodes..
So this 10$ is nothing in compare. I have strong believe that ends will be very interesting because they will be very accessible at these prices.

Secure Node Calculator!

http://zen.lebre.net

Project your profitability..

Thanks man

It could be really good miners I don't know how to mine but if I know I mine zen. I think 22m market cap is overpriced it will dump more as market is in bubble already

Just read an article that says people are starting to take money out of stocks and put it into cryptocurrency. An analyst believes Bitcoin will be $20,000 in three years; how high will ZEN be in that time?

There's still billions of dollars yet to flow into the market over the next several years as more people learn about Bitcoin and the alt-coins. There's going to be corrections, but who knows when we end up a bubble.

Livestream as always full of information. A few interesting Items to note:

About to spin up a team in Australia and New Zealand and will have a team up and running in Portugal soon.

Coinomi mobile Wallet which has an embedded exchange using Shapeshift- Expected integration next week. Which means Zen should be available on Shapeshift.

CoinPayments integration Sept 5th.

Can now run Zencash over Tor network.

Ledger, Bisq, and Cryptopia integrations hopefully within two weeks.

Should have already been on the YObit exchange but hasn’t happened yet, should happen any time. This is the one I’m interested in because they have a very large Russian community following Zencash and this is a Russian exchange. In fact Zencash has 3500 followers on their version of Facebook. This is one of the reasons they have a Russian version of the website already up.

Marketing getting started.

There’s much more of course, but the above caught my ear.

Today after this stream an order of 4500 Zen was put into Bittrex, we should see great increases coming from this update.

Thank you for sharing this. I'm interested, why Zen is popular among Russians?

Russians are interested in anonymous coins, as this whole region of eastern Europe. Zen is recognized as most promising new coin!

I think I find the place to call my friend. Not long after you found your recommendation, Zencash rises to 13 bucks. This is good news for Zencash and good news for us.

I am not a fan of any coin. But Zencash is rising really fast. Zencash developer team consists of very high quality software developers. I will continue to follow him.

Is it better than monero?

ZENcash still requires the trusted setup like Zcash, Monero not.
On the other side this never prevented ZCash from beeing worth 400 USD per coin also because of scarcity which is the same in ZEN.

ZENcash is rather a direct competitor to Zcash of which it is a kind of further developed version without such a high "developer tax",  with encrypted communication, governance and protection from censorship.

It is also interesting to observe that the price rise up to 13 USD is not even a pump, I just think some whales try to accumulate but can`t avoid pushing up the price because there are so limited coins in circulation.
It is so easy to push the ZEN price up now, it does not even require a big whale here.  ;D

Interesting. Gonna give Zen a shot. I wish they get listed on Kraken, do you have information regarding this exchange?

I know they listed already on Bittrex for an example, but I like Kraken.

This is like saying Bitcoin Cash is a superior version of Bitcoin. Or Litecoin is a superior version,,, BCH is 15% of price and litecoin is like 20%. Lots of development. Lots of things going on.

But please. Until you have merchants accepting it, it is almost useless.

I think the other guys here are better informed then me but as far as I know the ZEN team will contact all exchanges which have Zcash listed and try to get a listing too.
This should be easy for the exchanges to implement. BTW I like Bittrex really, it is fast, no lags like Poloniex and you can withdraw with much higher limits.


No ZEN is much more of an improvement of ZCash then what is LTC to BTC. Merchants are also not accepting Zcash, yet it went up to 400 USD. ;)
ZEN is a bargain compared to Zcash.

This
''Until you have merchants accepting it, it is almost useless.''

We should keep it in mind

I started mining this last month and as recommended in zcash miners forum. I´m aware most nvidia rigs are switching to Zen this days.

If acceptance is what you´re looking, this came from 4$ to 10$ in a month without much hype and still in pre-alpha stage.
 

I'm still really skeptical about ZEN, can someone make my mind up for me. To mine or NOT to mine? :/

If you are on nvidia then choose an equihash coin is a wise choise (EWBF’s CUDA) as they resolve this better than any other.

Further than that you should do your research and not try to be convinced by others, but  as my very personal opinion this are my 10 reasons to support the project

1- started mining this in august at 4$, ended the month at 10$, looks like it´s going somewhere to me.
2- looks better to me than direct competitors like komodo or Hash: https://blog.zensystem.io/zencash-compared-to-komodo-infographic
3- listed o bittrex and other exchanges, easy to sell or trade after mining.
4- if you check the pools it´s starting to have support. When i think of succesfull projects like Dash, zcash, Eth, monero, litecoin, bitcoin, etc. those are mineable and supported by miners in the past. So to me is a good sign at this state.
4- it´s pre-alpha, has margin to grow as things get released.
5- active dev team focused on dev more than marketing.
6- it´s resolving problems concerning "privacy", a desirable word this days in crypto world
7- it´s not just a coin, it´s set of tools: "Zen is a collection of products, services, and businesses built around an enabling technology"
8- It´s a discrete coin... no youtubers hyping it and telling you to buy. Less noise to me means less market fluctuations and whales taking the kids money when the coin tries to grow.
9- it´s profitable in more ways than mining (Zen Secure Nodes), and that means to me more adoption and support.
10- The white paper Purpose is something i just like https://zensystem.io/assets/Zen%20White%20Paper.pdf

@cryptimus prime i can understand what you are trying to tell here,but the case with NEO is that it has a big backing up from the Chinese investors which is a really huge thing and we could see projects coming out using that platform and so is the reason the price sky rocketed but i am not sure about ZEN,it might be a clone of Zcash may be with better security but for the price to shoot we must see some interest in the coin .

Neo is a smart contract tool, i don´t think it´s competing with Zen (you may mistake it with zen protocol https://www.zenprotocol.com , wich it is for smart contracts but  i bealive is independent project than zenCash )

Number 7 is very important and I think is missed by some; from their website:

“The world’s first private, distributed, and reliable “Platform” for communications, transactions and publishing.

It's not just a privacy coin, but a privacy platform

"it has a big backing up from the Chinese investors which is a really huge thing"

Wait until the Secure Nodes launch (about a month from now). Sometime after the launch I believe we'll see backers from companies/groups/organizations too. In fact I'm convinced they are just waiting for the Secure Nodes to launch (and prove to be stable) before integrating into the Zencash platform.

Again, think Platform here.

I also believe in ZEN. Glad I found this coin when it was $5 in fiat. I think it's still undervalued. Devs seem active and I like their marketing in Asia.

Thanks Tui! Just what I needed :D will look abit further and hopefully come to a decision in the next coming days.

It's 7.09$ at coinmarket now. You're still happy?

why wouldn't he be?

Everything is down, what do you expect?

BTC will hit 6K this year this low will be at 4K. Use those small swings caused by this BTC movements. This is perfect time for accumulation. ZEN won't go more down, do not count on this. We are awaiting a lot of good news and events - >

Agree, if price is down today is purely for market trend not because Zen users cares a single bit about china or any gov. Zen uses ZenHIDE

https://zensystem.io/assets/Zen%20White%20Paper.pdf

Someone just bought up a 28 bitcoin wall at about 170k and it's still climbing!

Looks like there are believers with a lot of Bitcoin out there. With all the news that's about to take place in the next few months this bodes well for Zencash.

ZEN has confirmed the support at 0.00162 and is pretty oversold right now, so we should see a very nice rebounce.

BTC dump made this false downtrend, someone will be very sad with his decisions. BTC will go to 6k very soon.

for sure mate, those panic sellers and who don't understand the trend will cry out loud after Zen bounce back alongside with bitcoin rebound,
many things will happen and good catch now for those whales who shake Zen for sure they will grab even more.

Zencash gets mentioned in "TheSreet.com": 

https://www.thestreet.com/story/14297576/1/venezuelans-flock-to-bitcoin-as-source-of-income.html

People from Countries and regions where freedom and privacy is under question mark slowly finding their ways in fighting oppression systems..Zen is perfect solution for them.

I love when zen dips like this below 200k and I have spare btc, I buy more. Seems to be a hidden gem, don't see much shilling of zen going on. Just wait for a bit of news, or a release from the zen team and it will be at 250k or more soon enough.

Damn the sell walls on ZEN are pretty thin, was lucky I could return to it after playing around with NEO. Still draw a nice green candle.  ;D
When ZEN gets some attention and starts pumping it could be pretty fast and high.

Zencash is now lised on Cryptopia:

https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange/?market=ZEN_BTC

The price has really jumped.

I follow this project since the start, I like, I hope the best for this.

The maketing is just starting, the secure nodes are not yet established, the new website is not there yet, the same for the logo.

I have no concerns for the price. In this complicated time with the bitcoin and the FUD, it is normal that the price is not yet exciting! ;)

Hello

have been reading this thread for a while and am really interested to invest in ZEN.

Could you update me on the team's roadmap and any upcoming releases/updates?

thank you

https://blog.zensystem.io/current-status-and-roadmap-for-zen-upgrades-and-improvements-july-2017/
Expect secure nodes in a few weeks. Then more features will keep coming in the next couple of years.
"Zen is going to be around and accomplishing great things for a long time. In parallel with building out the 1-2 year roadmap (with slight adjustments as we go)"

Secure Nodes will be out soon.
Zencash operations are about to start up in various countries.
New website and roadmap later this month.
Ledger integration soon, more exchange listings, etc.

This project is only about 4 months old, but a lot will be happening between now and the end of the year (less than 4 months left in the year).

If you go to their next livestream Wednesday, I think you’ll be surprised at everything they have going on.

The volume and price had a nice bump with the cryptopia exchange listing and no real announcement. This bodes well for the price when more significant news comes out between now and the end of the year.

Awesome! Better website is a must. Ledger too just bought it :) Keep on going team im supporting  ;D

the work done in such a short time is impressive. I think a lot of people no longer look at the project since the departure of Morvex ... It is a mistake. ::)

People will soon realize the potential of this project.

Listen to the Livestream presented today and you’ll see why the current price should be long gone two months from now (as long as Bitcoin doesn’t implode of course).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLur-QhTR5I

Listen carefully from about the 32 minute mark until about 46 minutes in, and you’ll see the pieces are in place to spread the word quickly.

Every week live stream is better and better. Team is rising and this project becoming stronger. I can't wait secure nodes, this must become big!

When this storm made by rich bankers ends, we will have nice steady rise. I must call all people to hold their possessions no matter what coin is in case.
 Do not sell now, hold. They will always find something to cause a small crash, but Crypto is much stronger.

Bitcoin is taking most of the alt-coins down, but Zen is holding up well. In fact it's up over the last 24 hours. There appears to be a lot of accumulation going on now. Check out the Order Book, it's very lopsided on the bid side.

https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-ZEN (https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-ZEN)

Very nice presentation. These prices are a gift and will seem bargains by next year.

Best time for the accumulation!
When started with trade this coin was in range 400k-600k so we can say everything under is bargain. Tim has good coordination, and those biweekly updates are best example how everything funcions good, and in comparation with early begining everything looks more profesional, and transparent.

Those who have some doubts or are not familiar with this project just need to listen last update->
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLur-QhTR5I

The Livestreams are really impressive when you consider they are done every two weeks.
 
When they first announced they were going to do these meetings bi-monthly I thought it would be too redundant, and that each presentation would be mostly a re-hash of the previous presentation. As it turns out, they have so many new developments every two weeks that they have a hard time just keeping the meeting down to an hour.

The operations/outreach programs that are about to start up in various countries and the people that are going to be running them is what really got me excited during the last Livestream. It appears this may be at the very beginning of an exponential growth curve. The fact that I am now seeing these very large bids (relative to ZENs usual trading) on bittrex during a correction in the market is a good indicator that the word is getting out about Zencash.

With Zencash getting closer to the Secure Node launch and with so many new people that are about learn about the project; when the market turns back up it may be perfect timing for Zen to ride the wave.

ZenCash Updates:

TorGuard Now Accepts ZenCash!

Privacy is important to us at ZenCash, so now that we’re integrated into CoinPayments, our mission is to ensure that our users can pay for their favorite privacy services directly with ZEN. This is why we’re so happy to announce that TorGuard has added ZenCash as a payment option for its anonymous VPN, proxy, and e-mail services!

VPNs are an extremely important part of the privacy equation, especially for people living in repressive jurisdictions. Being able to connect to the rest of the world securely and without fear of reprisal is something we consider a human right.
TorGuard is Pretty Awesome

TorGuard operates 1,600 servers in 50 different locations, and scored a 5 out of 5 in the latest CNET VPN review. They also rank well in PC Magazine’s VPN review, but get dinged for not having a free option. That’s OK, we’re paying for quality with our favorite cryptocurrency!

One of the most important things to look for in a VPN is whether they keep logs. TorGuard is 100% anonymous and does not need to wipe logs because they don’t keep any in the first place.

De oppresso liber,
Rob Viglione

Zencash will have many features that ZCL (and therefore Zcash as well) does not; with the biggie being Secure Nodes. Secure Nodes is what will differentiate Zencash from the others. Also, as the Zcash developers make improvements in the software, Zencash can also implement the same improvements.

Can Zencash surpass Monero? It's possible, though I believe they can live side by side. If any groups/organizations decide to start using Zencash it could start a movement. I think the original vision was a privacy coin for the “people”, and there are a lot more people in all the cryptocurrency space then there are in specific groups/organizations; though I am certain we’ll hear about some alliances after the Secure Node Launch.

I’m really curious to see wow well this catches on in China. They are about to start operations there and with all the talk of the ICO/exchange crackdown from the government, I’m wondering if this is the impetus they need to start using privacy coins.

Indeed interesting. I will have a closer eye on this coin.

We are approaching 21st-23th September NEXUS CONFERENCE http://www.nexusearth.com/conference.html in Aspen. This will be very interesting! Zen is recovering slowly, I guess we can see good movements those days..

You can read more here->
https://whova.com/web/nexus_201709/

wow, any news expected?, can´t find info in the zensys forum

Rob Viglione and Charles Hoskinson of Zencash will be speaking there.

New zen version, 2.0.10, brings in TLS encryption to the p2p protocol, the only coin to do so!

Why is this major?

When you make zen transactions, ISPs and outside parties can see that you are using zen, even if your transactions on the blockchain are private.

Why TLS and not Tor/i2p?

Tor and i2p, while great at hiding your ip and making you anonymous, it's painfully obvious to outside parties you're using them and easily censorable. TLS doesn't hide your ip but still encrypts your data and ISPs cant really guess if you're just browsing some obscure website or using Zen. This doesnt mean you cant use Tor with TLS, you can very much can in fact since there is already Tor support! We have a guide here: https://github.com/aayanl/zenontor

https://www.reddit.com/r/ZenSys/comments/70xxei/new_zen_version_2010_brings_in_tls_encryption_to/

Some larger buys of ZEN cash happened and more buys coming in. Any special news on this conference?

Several things happened yesterday.

Early in the day a pump group recommended ZEN

Later that day Rob Viglione of Zencash spoke.

later that day at the conference this was announced:

StormX and ZenCash team up

https://www.finextra.com/pressarticle/70813/stormx-and-zencash-team-up

It is superior coin of zcash and you are the right the price is at $7 currently which is less it will increase in future but won't ever cross price or zcash or even lie close to it's price. See the case of bch , etc all are the sub coins of btc and eth but the price is still low. I really like the developments zencash team is doing but i feel it's not worth wait they are better off coins out there.

Really feeling like Zen is primed for a big move up. With the positive news today it should reflect toward Zencash. Also the resilience and pumping of other less known privacy based coins the last 1-2 days is a very good sign.

wrong

this is not a meaningless fork made by unhappy devs. When china/others bans BTC/BCH or whatever, Zen will be there standing still.. it can be used no matter if the ISP is trying to block it or the entire Gov firewall, they can´t... It´s not another privacy coin for criminals, Zen is the ultimate privacy platform. High end companies from all kind of industries who need full confidentially could easely rely on ZEN for tasks beyond payments, like messaging, chatting, doc transfering etc For instance even companies like Apple would love to hide their data from the China headquaters against the big brother, or reverse enginering spies, etc.. just a sample among thousands)

Are masternode up yet, anyone running one?

There are almost 100 nodes that are running on the testnet  take a quick look  http://devtracksys.secnodes.com/  , in few weeks they are going to move all into the main network, I am running one node on a vps in test and on the main network I am planning to run more nodes...
for each node you need 42 zen + 1 zen ,

I think that with the secure nodes deployed the zen network  could reach the dash network or the bitcoin network but with the plus that all the network is  encrypted...
With a decentralized and secured network with thousands of nodes its not crazy see the zen into the top coin list....

For all interested in Secure Node development progress, watch this video by blockops.

This video is the latest update from our team leader.

ZEN coin is really interesting, but have you heard of the new big player XZC Zcoin is really good. It brings the privacy aspect to all the cryptos!

I really like this altcoin because it has many different things than other altcoins. I bought ZenCash for 0.0018 and would try to keep it for a year because I believe ZenCash could hit $ 20 by the end of 2018.

I have a very high hopes for this coin, that's why I am mining it.

ZEN has a good specs,
Very good team & community.

One thing,
I beleive that Price is a mix of whale, community, time, and devs,
more complicated

Zen is young project, still we have plenty of time for proving. Major achievement was TLS integration. This is one step towards Secure Nodes integration. Why this is important? We have our unique road and we are building our integrity, which is a very slow process. Once when nodes become ready for use this process will be speed up as reward for all team efforts.
Team and community slowly rising due to transparency. Everybody can join slack channel and can present their ideas to community. Everybody's invited.
Zen team working on multiple wallets including android and integrations for hardware wallet. Also  you can use now web based wallet https://myzenwallet.io/ fast and secure.
Zen is acepted is now acepted here:
https://www.coinpayments.net/
https://evercoin.com/
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz
https://torguard.net/
This is very important step in further adoption.

My conclusion Zen is good opportunity for everyone who wants to invest in Zcash improved technology for much less than this could be case with Zcash. ZenCash project can gives you much more in return.

Also realize that Zen is very unlikely to be at the current price when Secure Nodes go live.

When?

Less than a month. Supposed to go to Beta any day now.

Considering how many people are involved in testing and how seriously team working this will happen soon.. It is very unpopular to determine exact date because testing must end up perfect. 8)

Even if you are right the coin is younger or at least that is what seems to come from my small research, also you need to understand that things are not so simple people are not going to replace a working product just because a product that is marginal better appeared, smart phones work like that but in the case of crypto that does not apply.

Hi everybody,

What the main differences between Monero, Verge,Dash and Zen.
I’m sometimes confused with all these “anonym” coins…
For me was zcash the best one but it sounds like that could be wrong… :-D

Yes but in this case it is an investment, ZEN cash has improvements compared to Zcash but yet it is many times more cheaper.

Good commentary. Price is a mix of many things. But the most important is the community, followed by devs. And time, how can we forget that? Nothing happens quickly that is good for the long term. You see a coin jump ridiculously in price? That's a whale derived activity and cannot possibly be a lasting action. I have seen communities and developers revive a crap coin. I have never seen whales bring anything back from the dead.

Well this is always very hard question, but you can find a lot of answers and opened threads on this topic. From my standpoint those are different solutions for one problem. They don't need to be compared. You will always find advantages and disadvantages in every system.

ZenCash is based on zkSNARKs technology in original built by Zcash team. With TLS integration and in near future Secure node integration this will be completely different system. It will be more private and secure and it will be economically approved( 3.5% of every block, will go to node holders). We just have different approach and we are working on usability. We are building self-sustainable system for transactions, communications and publishing.
We don't have intentions to race with no one. We will use all possible open source technologies if we find them interesting for integration in our products.
Our goals are beyond selfish talks and they are based on our core beliefs on privacy, freedom and human rights.

Monero, verge, and dash all have terrible anonymity and privacy unlike Zencash and other Zcoins which use zero knowledge proofs.

I like the way zencash price is going up by the day :)

Marketcap too low. One of these coming days I am going to wake up to a price doubling overnight.

thankiu for important  information :)

Don't worry, Zen will have it's day on the charts soon. They are about to release the beta and as soon as the secure nodes go live, the project will gain similar attention. Be patient, it's still a very young project compared to zcash.

Looking at the 1-day chart for me it looks like we could see some major upward movement with ZEN soon.

Big zcash movement. Seeing some now on ZEN. I feel like this is THE coin to be right now!

ZEN could be the next one to run up big after Zcash. Daily chart looks good.
Once it goes above $13, it could go back to its ATH near $22. A price in
triple digits like Zcash in a year or two will be great!

Bitcoin rising again and this time we are probably going above 5K, influence on other coins will be more than noticeable.
Next period will be very prosperous for ZenCash, we will enter Beta testing of Secure Nodes. New members coming through operations. Wheel spinning faster. 8)

I love ZEN, but it really needs some marketing, it´s the only weakness i see now in the project. Many youtubers are now reviewing privacy coins and is sad no one mentions ZEN evens it´s a better project. I´ve watched yesterday suppoman top 5 undervalued privacy coins and it´s sad again they don´t mention ZEN (but he does Komodo!  :-\).  

Yes you are right project such as ZenCash deserves much more attention. If you have ideas you can present them here-> https://forum.zensystem.io/t/how-to-create-a-proposal-for-zencash/235

Our marketing team cooperating with Tatiana Moroz and http://www.cryptomediahub.com/. You can find many articles about ZenCash on many different languages. We just paused Twitter and Signature campaign after eight weeks. Vosk producing super quality videos for YouTube..

That could happen. It will be similar to Bitcoin Cash to Bitcoin.

A month to your birthday. I think you will rise until the end of the year.

Hmm... The price is go down, but mining difficulty go up last two days. It's a little strange.
I understand that we waiting for secure nodes, but it seems that the price forgot about that :(.

Do not worry, when nodes exit testings and start working they ZenCash will attract more attention. Price won't stay at current level demand will be greater, Nods will influence large amount of Zen's to be withdrawn from the free circulation. 42 coins are needed for one node and my estimation is that in a first few weeks we will have around 1000 nodes .. This is 42k coins.

I hope they calculated correctly and investitors will get some ZEN's for running a node, because if there are to many nodes....
EDIT question
If i own 100 ZEN coins and i wanna run 2 nodes...i have to split those 100 in two diffrent addresses and point them to each VPS or i can hold them at one address.

You should divide them in different addresses.

http://devtracksys.secnodes.com/about

More about Secure Nodes you can find here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2047435.msg22252051#msg22252051

We certainly can open discussion about number of coin necessary for nodes and percentage reserved for rewards, when nodes go live. We will do everything for improvement of ZenCash system.

Somoene posted a link with simple secure node setup (included script to do all) and i cant find it anywhere ? Can somene post me this, wanna set up one node on testnet

Is this what you are looking for?
https://medium.com/@jm9k/how-to-setup-up-a-zencash-node-a-guide-for-complete-noobs-d585216d289a

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Other important links ->
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2047435.msg22252051#msg22252051

i understand how to setup on mac... will there be new wallets come in the future?

Main focus of the team are wallets and clients, for improving of user experience. All wallets and codes are here->
https://github.com/ZencashOfficial

Swing wallet - wallets for win/linux/mac->
https://github.com/ZencashOfficial/zencash-swing-wallet-ui

Web Wallet->
https://myzenwallet.io/

We have mobile wallet, it is in beta->
https://github.com/ZencashOfficial/zencash-mobile/releases/tag/v0.0.4a

ZenCash team already working on new wallet called Arizen->
https://github.com/ZencashOfficial/arizen

Hardware wallet, software developers working with Ledger to create ZenCash aplication.

Yes thank you.
In this tutorail you dont need to own a domain ? It works without ? In your tutorial you have to have a domain, and its a diffrence

Another day the price is down and down... There were no bad news for Zen, at least I didn't see one. I really don't understand the price drop.

Yeah I got it at 192k sat but its 160k now :P Not really worried tho.

Viewed from a positive angle, this certainly our chance to have more. So, when value indicates what it should be, we can make a big profit from Zen. For me, Zen is nice altcoin to hold.

Yeah look at the markets, everything is in the red. Great time to pick some more zen

Someone put 948 ZEN at 160k for sale and it was bought fast (with no buy wall) so I have good feeling.

I have bought more zens during this dip, this price is really cheap for zen , with secure nodes live in few weeks the price should be at least 15$ - 20$

I also kept a eye on ZEN, I think it's a good investment at this point !
But everyone should do it's own research .

Read this article made by our Co founder of Zen, Rolf Versluis

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@blockops/zencash-secure-nodes-create-a-distributed-and-reliable-cryptocurrency-system

Secure Node definitively will make Zen more interesting for investors, and this will be our main step and main difference from all others similar coins, including Zcash from which Zen was created. Voting system and optimal decentralisation will be next and our major break through.
My advice for everybody here, is to read white paper, this is amazing document, and best road map. ;)
 ->https://zensystem.io/assets/Zen%20White%20Paper.pdf

Are there any bounties?
I'm mining zen's to setup a masternode, but I still ne a lot of em :/

Agreed, the price is very cheap and it's an undervalued product. It's still a recent fork in the grand timeline so accumulate now while it's low. I'd keep a more longterm outlook on returns.

There are no official campaigns, nor bounty programs, except you can make a proposal and earn some Zen's, through work. This is maybe the best way you can be actively involved in community and give your contribution.

https://forum.zensystem.io/t/how-to-create-a-proposal-for-zencash/235

Good opportunity again like we saw it in August. Bitcoin is really good for business!

“Be fearful when others are greedy and greedy when others are fearful.”

-Warren Buffet

8)
Every time looks like end of the world, and then suddenly stops and bounce back..

I wonder if we can get this project worht 30-40$ per coin ?
Wanna see what secure nodes will do, and ledger wallet.

that is what I am thinking,  (I am thinking  more than 50$)

there are a lot s$$$-coins with a bigger market cap that have no improvement , no integrations, nothing.

the zencash team is delivering what promised, every two weeks a lot of news, and more integrations with new partners to use the zencash in the real life/cases.

and the secure nodes will be on the main net the next week...

Currently Zen is ranked 177 on coinmarketcap.com and you have a look at the coins above it, quite a few boggle the mind as to why they even exist. Before the September crash there was so much speculative money flowing into every alt-coin and rubbish ICO the market was really over-heated and after these two upcoming forks when money starts coming out of BTC and into alts again, the cream will rise to the top and the shit will stay at the bottom as people will be more risk averse after so many people have dumped their alts at a huge loss.

Zen is poised to make a good ascent, and timing couldn't be better with secure nodes coming online to the main net in a couple of weeks and by the time the 2X fork rolls around in mid-november I'm hoping that the payments to secure node operators would have started and this will be very attractive to investors. Right now is the time to accumulate and HODL

Im thinkin more than 50$ too :). I think if we 50 there is a way to 100! 75 for sure :)

is there any simple tutorial to set up a secure node ?

I don't think so.
I once asked for video tutorial from start, lets hope someone will provide it when available.

I did find a tutorial on creating a master node if anyone is interested

https://blockoperations.com/build-zencash-secure-node-part-1-prepare-vps/

Thanks for sharing.

Noobish Q: can I run a node on my own PC which runs 24/7?
Never used VPS, don't really get it...it would be great if we could run a node on our local PCs.

yes you can, but you need a static/public ip and is necessary to open / map a port on your router -> pc for the incoming connection  (9033 should be on the main net)

maybe a vps is simple and cheaper than keep the computer running

You can find all informations here->
https://forum.zensystem.io/t/secure-node-tracking-and-payment-system-software-development-project-discussion/126/14
https://blockoperations.com/build-zencash-secure-node-part-1-prepare-vps/
https://blockoperations.com/build-zencash-secure-node-part-2-build-zen-node/
https://blockoperations.com/build-zencash-secure-node-part-2-5-test-tls-secnodetracker/

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This one can be called simple. ;)
https://medium.com/@jm9k/how-to-setup-up-a-zencash-node-a-guide-for-complete-noobs-d585216d289a

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If you have one or more mining farm than you already have comp running 24/7 :).

If you have one or more mining farm than you already have comp running 24/7 :).
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Exactly!
That's why I would like to run a node on my local rigs.

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Hey, thanks for reply.
Last link is for normal nodes which dont get any payment is that correct ? Only secure nodes will have monthly payments ?

No, last link is shortened instruction for setup Secure Nodes.

https://blog.zensystem.io/zencash-secure-node-system-overview-video/

 When the week is over, NodePaySys calculates payouts based on formula.
The more successful Responses, the less each Secure Node is paid.
Payment will be sent to the Staking t_address
Payments will be made weekly.

In last link there is no mention of domain  for SSL, thats why i ask and the title is Node not secure node :)

Yes and Yes! :D

Everything is possible, Secure Nodes will be probably ready to enter Beta phase before monday, after this, switching to mainnet is just a routine.

Today Zen's price has exceeded the price of 0.002, which is really good because I made 50% profit from this market. I will continue to buy when Zen has a lower price and will keep this altcoin for the next few months

Amazing day. hard to bealive it went down almost 5$ in the crash and up to 12$ today.

Ahhh, thanks for the links, they were just what I was looking for and wasn't able to get clear answers in the telegram. With the low entry requirement, I can imagine a lot of people will be looking to set up masternodes.

Do you think it will dip a little bit so that I can buy at a cheaper price? Or should I just buy it now, because the Price won’t decrease anymore?

This coin will definitely go to the moon, but I discovered it too late   ::)

Really want some coins, but don’t want to buy it too expensive  ;D

Another accurate call so it seems by OP.

I think that before climbing further it'll probably dip below the $20 mark and potentially be dragged down to the sea of altcoins currently below the 100th place on coinmarketcap. Profits have been great for investors over the past few days but these growths can't really be sustained.

Looking forward to the next tip :)

Yes after leakage of fake Palm Beach Confidential Zencash report and their denying of it, everything is possible. BUT This video should cause dump but it is locked. Palm Beach Confidential: Zencash (ZEN) Update -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojjvCiCXr3A What game do they play I'm not sure, and who is behind of this, so i would not be surprise to see pump to 600k then dump.

I see... Fake news can work sometimes. We can't know which news is real or fake with the internet.

All what i know zen is coin forked from zcash but with better technologies maybe. It will goes high but not beating zcash. Every coin forked from other coin will never beat the original coin. It will always under the original coin. The best price it could be is 10% from original coin

Nobody denies Zcash power!
 I'm only trying to present power of manipulation and speculations. This is dangerous and can damage reputation. Pumpers groups doesn't care about projects, they just use them as a tool for earning, and i would not be surprised that this report actually was real and premature leakage..I like Zen and I hope this won't affect it. Actually they are better version of Zcash, this is why all this happening.

I thought the pbc report was confirmed legit?

Don't spread your BS here. This report wasn't fake and it was in time.

report is legit,

Hodling ZEN for long-term irrespective of PB reco. The subject  of this thread is still mostly
valid so it has still a long way up to go to catch up Zcash and other privacy coins in market cap.

Gahhhhhh damn it I sold 1.5 BTC worth to buy some zen and not even kidding 5 minutes later -.0042 to .0034 FML.  :'(

I believe a large number of people bought in planning on it going 10x in a week, and have no clue what they even bought.  It will likely fall back down a bit when they panic sell or notice it hasn't went up exponentially since they bought in at $20.

I've been watching & mining ZEN for months now, the chart was starting to flatten out and once it started edging down instead of up, massive sell began. I didn't think it was going to cave into itself that bad... There goes a massive chunk of my portfolio value... I had 640 from mining and wanted to get it up to 1000 >.< Ohh well I still made more money overall. Just hate losing value in BTC over stupid trades I could have prevented...  >:(

I must be on another planet; ZEN is stil 0.004 BTC?
How have you lost a massive chunk of portfolio?

I have mined nothing but ZEN since late June so needless to say I am pretty ecstatic!

Well obviously the price is jumping up and down. I just happened to buy it at .0042 and then it ended up dropping down to .0034 soon after. It since picked back up since bitcoin is losing strength. I was just ranting about my failed entry point.

Yeah sorry, I didn't see that you had bought in at .0042, I thought you just accumulated 700 ZEN before the pump.

The last week has been quite volatile. Lesson learned that I think the PBC valuation (buy until $20) is quite respected and holds weight in the form of a buy-wall.

ZenCash is flying high after the report from Palm Beach Confidential. I sold a few that I had when the price bounced. Should have waited more but was too quick to sell at $18. Should I buy them back?

Better times comming, notice that altcoins slowly going back to previous positions, Bitcoin could stay at this level for a while, this could be a very healthy for alts growth. I will put my buy orders lower, just in case. ZEN is hot now, with good fud attack we could be at 200k again. I never sell all at once, 1/3, then trying to catch another 1/3 on the peak..Last third is for surprises  ;)

ZEN heaven right now @_@

Zen is the real deal, I have a lot of confidence in the team and only wish I backed them a bit more before this price jump and positive news reporting!

Think it will continue to trend upwards. I'm hoping the mining difficulty gets a bit easier if/when people shuffle off to mine bitcoin gold. But will have to wait and see.

I missed Zen befor the pump to 25$

Do you think 17$ is a good price for buying my first Zen ? The marketcap seems to be low and the project very serious ...

What level can reach Zencash?

well it’s my opinion that Zen is a good price to buy in just now and I see no reason why Zen cannot reach triple figures next year,the development and team behind this project is assume  and there building a worldwide ecosystem with loads going on behind the scene,when this Bitcoin fork none sense is over money will flow back to altcoins and Zen will be back on course but that’s just my opinion.

Do not chase pumps. Wait for it to drop. It's mad overbought right now.

good call.
wait...

lmao at zen getting another PBC pump from people who think the one from last month is this month ;D seems too absurd, is there something else causing this that i missed?

either way v happy about it 8)

whats up with this pump,cant find any info that caused it...

It's not absurd. Everything matches.

I don't think you get what i mean. It already pumped with the October report (which featured ZEN), so the cat's been out of the bag for a while that Teeka likes it

It seems Teeka pumped it again today. See last pages of this discussion thread for details:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2305634.0
 
ZEN is a great coin for long-term regardless of any pumps.

You make nice call. Zen price now 20$ + .I have following you now haha

This transcript has lines that were edited out from audio presentation (because it's easy to guess the coin). And they claim that it's live!

With a volume of over 17 million usd and a market cap of 58 million usd this coin will surely rise even higher, as long as the volume/ incoming money keeps being that high. No low coin has almost 30% of its market cap as daily volume. ;) Pump big time.

I'm glad to have taken the price of $ 16 48h ago !!
I hope there will be another opportunity to buy more before a big pump ...

I'm so happy I got into Zen right when Teeka posted about it. $7 to $25 in less than one day, my $5k turned into $18,000 hahahha

that was one epic call my man  8)

Teeka is straight legit, 26,000% gains in one year. I'm sad I only started getting his newsletters not too long ago but I still made hella profit after he called Zen and GAS.

Teeka is legit? LMAO. He has been barred from being a broker since 2005.

https://brokercheck.finra.org/individual/summary/1995398

and then ?   I hope do you know that the crypto market is all unregulated.... all prices are manipulated....

Prior to being barred, he was hopping between 15 different companies in a 9 year period. One of those companies was closed down by the Financial Regulatory Authority. This dude has been a hairline away from going to jail for the past 20 years of his life but he's legit???? Lol OK.  A fool and his money....

Yesterday on the livestream it was published that the secure node testing is almost done and secure nodes could go to the main net any day now. This makes the network even more secure and users even, as anyone can contribute to the security the same.  This will probably make Zencash much more popular and will drive the price high..  ;)

Still waiting for nodes on main net... we need a good news story soon

what is superior in ZEN? zcash is the one who make the rules for them XD
every development of zcash will be adopted by ZEN and other forks..
zcash is the king and the komodo is the queen
other ZEN,HUSH and other forks, are kids  :P

Zen has Secure Nodes, and they are major improvement and they place Zen somewhere in between Zcash and Dash system.
Zen will adopt every technology necessary for improving of it's own system and this won't be limited only on Zcash technology.
Nobody denies Zcash has  really good technology, Zen is best proof for this. We only want to create something different and more usable and our goals are different. 

The market will expand for anonymous tokens. Zen will benefit from it. The market is now big enough to support multiple billion dollar projects.

So guys, securenodes tommorow what do u think are we getting to next level ? :)

 

That will probably get some adoption from now on by real users that demand privacy.. Monero and Dash are pumping so hard... i hope zen can take a piece of that cake, cause monero is a great privacy coin, but i´m not sure dash can compite with Zen, Dash is simply terrible overvalued..
I expect more moves with the branding update, new logo, website, and probably some marketing.

28% drop in price in several hours. What's happens?

u say what ?  :-X

in my opinion both coins will grow the same...

i love zcash forks =]

How's NEO working out for you?

Komodo, is a shit coin compared to ZEN.

ZEN has more to offer to humanity; especially in regards to complete control over your own data, messaging, etc...

Good luck with Komodo and ZCash.  They're both selling out their community (GPU miners) who got them started by not forking.