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Title: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on August 10, 2017, 03:58:04 PM

I needed a way to implement gaming chips and using lightning network seems a very interesting solution. However, LN is assuming the latest BTC, so I had to fork bitcoin 0.14 to get a testable environment.

SHA256, 10 second blocks, rpc port 57776
        pchMessageStart[0] = 0xff;
        pchMessageStart[1] = 0xee;
        pchMessageStart[2] = 0xdd;
        pchMessageStart[3] = 0xcc;
        nDefaultPort = 57777;

https://github.com/jl777/chips3 <- fork of BTC 0.14
build instructions: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2078449.msg20793493#msg20793493

https://github.com/jl777/lightning <- fork of Elements lightning C daemon
build instructions: cd lightning; make; cd privatebet; ./m_bet

Please refer to the docs for the original projects, I made as little changes to them as possible.

I am not sure if this blockchain will become the "real" CHIPS, but I would tend to guess that it would. Privatebet (BET komodo assetchain) is implementing a generic decentralized gaming platform and will be using CHIPS for the internal ledger of the in-game betting results. However, specific plans are subject to change until it is all finalized.

Since the casino games will have a relatively short lifetime, as long as the market price of CHIPS does not change very quickly, people can purchase CHIPS to use inside the games and them redeem them via barterDEX at close to the same price. Maybe even some time limited pricelocking can be implemented with CLTV.

This is really more of an internal component for the komodo ecosystem, but I announce in here so that it cannot be claimed that it was done in secret. Of course it is all in my github and fully public even during the development phase.

Oh, there wont be any ICO for CHIPS. Not looking for any funding, we have plenty of that. However, if you want to actively participate in the development or testing, then certainly we need as many people for that as possible.

I have a node running at: 5.9.253.195
once you get it built using normal bitcoin build procedure: ./chipsd -addnode=5.9.253.195 &

The lightning is started by ~/lightning/lightningd/lightningd &

###################
Blockexplorers:
http://chips1.explorer.supernet.org
 http://www.zpool.ca/explorer/2447
 http://explorer.chips.cash/
 http://149.202.49.218:3001/

Unix, OSX and Windows QT wallet binaries: https://github.com/DeckerSU/chips3/releases/tag/v0.14.99_decker_2

Mining Pools:
 xrobesx is running a pool at dabmining.co:8080
 crackfoo has added it to zpool: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2078449.msg21200675#msg21200675
 pondsea's private pool http://69.30.231.42:8080/
http://144.76.167.66:8080/
http://miningpools.cloud and find CHIPS pool or directly with stratum server http://chipspool.cloud  (http://miningpools.cloud/?pool=chips#/)
https://pool.coin-miners.info https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2078449.msg22338299#msg22338299

Exchange: barterDEX
https://www.coinexchange.io/market/CHIPS/BTC

CHIP and a Chair - Let’s use Bitcoin’s Lightning Network to create a Poker Game (https://www.supernet.org/en/resources/updates/chip-and-a-chair-let-s-use-bitcoin-s-lightning-network-to-create-a-poker-game)


CHIPS now has a Discord. Come join us! https://discord.gg/UyVvdV4


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] SHA256 BTC clone created to experiment with LN, 10 second blocks
Post by: NASdaq on August 10, 2017, 07:10:31 PM
I needed a way to implement gaming chips and using lightning network seems a very interesting solution. However, LN is assuming the latest BTC, so I had to fork bitcoin 0.14 to get a testable environment.

https://github.com/jl777/chips3 <- fork of BTC 0.14
https://github.com/jl777/chipsln <- fork of Elements lightning C daemon

Please refer to the docs for the original projects, I made as little changes to them as possible.

I am not sure if this blockchain will become the "real" CHIPS, but I would tend to guess that it would. Privatebet (BET komodo assetchain) is implementing a generic decentralized gaming platform and will be using CHIPS for the internal ledger of the in-game betting results. However, specific plans are subject to change until it is all finalized.

Since the casino games will have a relatively short lifetime, as long as the market price of CHIPS does not change very quickly, people can purchase CHIPS to use inside the games and them redeem them via barterDEX at close to the same price. Maybe even some time limited pricelocking can be implemented with CLTV.

This is really more of an internal component for the komodo ecosystem, but I announce in here so that it cannot be claimed that it was done in secret. Of course it is all in my github and fully public even during the development phase.

Oh, there wont be any ICO for CHIPS. Not looking for any funding, we have plenty of that. However, if you want to actively participate in the development or testing, then certainly we need as many people for that as possible.

I have a node running at: 5.9.253.195
once you get it built using normal bitcoin build procedure: ./chipsd -addnode=5.9.253.195


Looks interesting, great use of LN tech, glad I have some Pangea stashed away!


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] SHA256 BTC clone created to experiment with LN, 10 second blocks
Post by: markj113 on August 10, 2017, 07:42:15 PM
Really interesting.

No idea how you manage to keep all these development threads running simultaneously :)


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] SHA256 BTC clone created to experiment with LN, 10 second blocks
Post by: jl777B on August 11, 2017, 08:28:50 AM
Really interesting.

No idea how you manage to keep all these development threads running simultaneously :)

It helps that it is a single system https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1605144.msg20787389#msg20787389

also I avoid doing GUI


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] SHA256 BTC clone created to experiment with LN, 10 second blocks
Post by: jl777B on August 11, 2017, 01:29:07 PM
building it properly is a pain (as usual). here are the steps I used to get a stable build:

sudo apt-get install software-properties-common autoconf git build-essential libtool libprotobuf-c-dev libgmp-dev libsqlite3-dev python python3 zip jq libevent-dev pkg-config libssl-dev libcurl4-gnutls-dev cmake
add-apt-repository ppa:bitcoin/bitcoin
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install -y libdb4.8-dev libdb4.8++-dev

cd
wget https://dl.bintray.com/boostorg/release/1.64.0/source/boost_1_64_0.zip
unzip boost_1_64_0.zip
cd boost_1_64_0
./bootstrap.sh
./b2
./b2 install

cd
git clone https://github.com/jl777/chips3
cd ~/chips3
./autogen.sh
./configure --with-boost=/usr/local/
cd src
make -j8 chipsd
make chips-cli
cp chips-cli /usr/bin # just need to get chips-cli to work from command line
# make -> will build everything, including QT wallet
sudo ldconfig /usr/local/lib # thanks smaragda!
./chipsd -addnode=5.9.253.195 &

cd
git clone https://github.com/jl777/lightning
cd lightning
make
daemon/lightning-cli stop; lightningd/lightningd --log-level=debug &
cd privatebet
./m_bet
./client or ./host

Please post here if you get a node up and running. I am actively enhancing it so we can get some realtime transactions between nodes soon. I plan to have 10 live nodes today


######
seems bitcoin ppa doesnt have bdb 4.8 anymore. here are manual compile instructions:
ou could compile it from source as well.
wget 'http://download.oracle.com/berkeley-db/db-4.8.30.NC.tar.gz'
tar -xzvf db-4.8.30.NC.tar.gz
cd db-4.8.30.NC/build_unix/
../dist/configure --enable-cxx
make
make install

Tell your system where to find db4.8
export BDB_INCLUDE_PATH="/usr/local/BerkeleyDB.4.8/include"
export BDB_LIB_PATH="/usr/local/BerkeleyDB.4.8/lib"
ln -s /usr/local/BerkeleyDB.4.8/lib/libdb-4.8.so /usr/lib/libdb-4.8.so


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] SHA256 BTC clone created to experiment with LN, 10 second blocks
Post by: jl777B on August 12, 2017, 12:22:17 PM
The LN code is still pretty low level, but I finally manage to get a micropayment across!

cli sendpay '[{ "id" : "02779b57b66706778aa1c7308a817dc080295f3c2a6af349bb1114b8be328c28dc", "channel" : "2646:1:0", "msatoshi" : 1000, "delay" : 10 } ]' a7a29267cb1b2502773152d3eb20b4985989afadf586eac21c0c3e2ec24a4b8bestimatefee.(-1
) -> default to 0.00010000
lightningd(17765): Unable to estimate fee, default to 0.00020000

lightningd(17765): Connected json input
lightningd(17765): Sending 1000 over 1 hops to deliver 1000
lightningd_channel(17953): REPLY WIRE_CHANNEL_OFFER_HTLC_REPLY with 0 fds
lightningd_channel(17953): UPDATE WIRE_CHANNEL_SENDING_COMMITSIG
lightningd_channel(17953): UPDATE WIRE_CHANNEL_GOT_REVOKE
lightningd_channel(17953): UPDATE WIRE_CHANNEL_GOT_COMMITSIG
lightningd_channel(17953): UPDATE WIRE_CHANNEL_GOT_COMMITSIG
{ "preimage" : "c1d017f084e2c0afc9b24387836ecaef88a35fe86bf43cc353b5ef3732b3a7c6" }

at least I think I did. Not easy to see balances yet

A lot of what LN is doing is similar to barterDEX and it certainly isnt simple to do.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] SHA256 BTC clone created to experiment with LN, 10 second blocks
Post by: jl777B on August 12, 2017, 02:27:02 PM
After posting various questions and issues with LN it seems that multisig wont be available for quite a while as it will require a spec change before it can even be implemented. in my experience 6 months for that would be extremely fast.

So, I need to have a different method to deal with table bets.

Here is what I propose:

1. Each table has a "dealer" who is the responsible node for managing CHIPS. Externally, each dealer would have posted a performance bond of up to XXX KMD with some arbiter.

2. Each player that joins a table would have their independent amount of CHIPS, but they open a payment channel to the dealer.

2b. the dealer opens a payment channel to each player as they join, which means the dealer needs to have at least N times the average number of CHIPS for each player's channel.

3. For each hand, the LN payments are made to the dealer. At the end of each hand, the dealer pays out to the winner player(s)

In the even the dealer does not make the required payment, the arbiter would be contacted and the validated amount would be distributed from the performance bond.

There is some risk of a dealer using the same performance bond for many games and waiting until there is more than his performance bond in his hands... So, reputation of dealer will need to be a factor in how much people would feel safe in betting per game.

For the early stages, this wont be an issue and eventually we should be able to have a multisig (or blockchain) controlled LN account


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] SHA256 BTC clone created to experiment with LN, 10 second blocks
Post by: castiloros on August 12, 2017, 02:36:55 PM
So there is NO ICO for this project, that will means there is no bounties open right now and the future.
Just hoping that the project will have a good success in the near future.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] SHA256 BTC clone created to experiment with LN, 10 second blocks
Post by: yadan86 on August 12, 2017, 02:38:33 PM
When will you release ? Keep on your hard work, I'll be  back for more information soon.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] SHA256 BTC clone created to experiment with LN, 10 second blocks
Post by: jl777B on August 12, 2017, 02:46:00 PM
So there is NO ICO for this project, that will means there is no bounties open right now and the future.
Just hoping that the project will have a good success in the near future.
The project has enough funding, but for now we are just looking for GUI devs


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] SHA256 BTC clone created to experiment with LN, 10 second blocks
Post by: jl777B on August 12, 2017, 02:48:54 PM
When will you release ? Keep on your hard work, I'll be  back for more information soon.
Until there is a GUI, any release will have limited value.
The LN needs to get to beta stage first though, there are some important things like state persistence that it needs before it can be used with real money.

However, since it is just using CHIPS, maybe we can ignore such issues. I just figured out what needs to be done to manage the LN side of things and once that layer is in place, the privatebet code needs to integrate it in.

with so many different things that can interrupt me, I am reluctant to make any time estimates. only that this is currently my default project when there arent bugs to fix for barterDEX


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] SHA256 BTC clone created to experiment with LN, 10 second blocks
Post by: hugasinora on August 12, 2017, 04:08:31 PM
If you are not too quick to make an announcement, I think this project is not quite ready to make an announcement, I will see the progress of this thread the next few days, I hope you make this project more convincing, good luck team


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] SHA256 BTC clone created to experiment with LN, 10 second blocks
Post by: TheKingInYellow on August 12, 2017, 04:16:25 PM
How will the coin be distributed?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] SHA256 BTC clone created to experiment with LN, 10 second blocks
Post by: adarwis on August 12, 2017, 04:34:25 PM
This is a great start, meaning you believe this project will be successful, all the great things in this world happen because of trust. High confidence keeps you from giving up a single second. Although it fails, that trust will raise you up again. Hopefully run well and good luck.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] SHA256 BTC clone created to experiment with LN, 10 second blocks
Post by: Thenoticer on August 12, 2017, 05:48:59 PM
This is very interesting.

Had you considered an alternative to LN? I seem to remember that geist geld, a sha256 clone, with merge mining, being lightning fast(created to push the speed boundary)  and might be easier to add multi sig if it doesn't have it already.

Also will chips have a 21 mil limit and be able to be mined?



Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] SHA256 BTC clone created to experiment with LN, 10 second blocks
Post by: jl777B on August 12, 2017, 05:59:07 PM
...
make chipsd
make chips-cli
# make -> will build everything, including QT wallet
sudo ldconfig /usr/local/lib
./chipsd -addnode=5.9.253.195 &
cp ~/chips3/src/chips-cli /usr/bin
...

Please don't ask me to explain what problem arises (i.e. I'm clueless), but you should add the above green to your instructions exactly where I placed it.  Some will not be able to run chipsd without this step.


 :)


indeed an important step. I forgot I had to do that on some nodes. updated my post above


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] SHA256 BTC clone created to experiment with LN, 10 second blocks
Post by: jl777B on August 12, 2017, 06:01:12 PM
If you are not too quick to make an announcement, I think this project is not quite ready to make an announcement, I will see the progress of this thread the next few days, I hope you make this project more convincing, good luck team
Too early to not ask for any funds?

There wont be an ICO.

I only announced it so it is publicly announced and that people cant complain later about some sort of stealth mining.

I am probably one of the few currently mining CHIPS, but anybody is welcome to. It works, so it is not too early to announce that it exists.

There could well be several hardforks that will need to be made, but hopefully not.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] SHA256 BTC clone created to experiment with LN, 10 second blocks
Post by: jl777B on August 12, 2017, 06:02:32 PM
How will the coin be distributed?
Identical to bitcoin. pure SHA256 mining. As few changes to the current bitcoin 0.14 as possible.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] betting chip for privatebet (BET) first realtime LN application
Post by: jl777B on August 12, 2017, 06:05:09 PM
This is very interesting.

Had you considered an alternative to LN? I seem to remember that geist geld, a sha256 clone, with merge mining, being lightning fast(created to push the speed boundary)  and might be easier to add multi sig if it doesn't have it already.

Also will chips have a 21 mil limit and be able to be mined?


CHIPS has a 10 second blocktime (if we can get enough miners), currently about 30 seconds per block.

And from what I can tell LN is working and will have a fairly large infrastructure of GUI, etc. so I prefer to stick with industry standard.

CHIPS has multisig, its just that LN itself is a protocol that assumes single party ownership of addresses. I have make a request to the lightning-rfc issues https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lightning-rfc/issues

hopefully in the future there will be a built in solution for this. in the meantime, I will make an addon layer to provide this functionality


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] SHA256 BTC clone created to experiment with LN, 10 second blocks
Post by: jl777B on August 12, 2017, 06:07:26 PM
If you are not too quick to make an announcement, I think this project is not quite ready to make an announcement, I will see the progress of this thread the next few days, I hope you make this project more convincing, good luck team
Also there wont be any fancy charts or marketing materials, or any marketing in general. This is a technical thread about a technical coin providing a technical service to the komodo ecosystem

whether CHIPS will have any market value, I cannot say. It will be able to be traded on barterDEX using the decentralized atomic swaps


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] SHA256 BTC clone created to experiment with LN, 10 second blocks
Post by: KomodoPlatform on August 12, 2017, 08:30:33 PM
CHIP and a Chair - Let’s use Bitcoin’s Lightning Network to create a Poker Game (https://www.supernet.org/en/resources/updates/chip-and-a-chair-let-s-use-bitcoin-s-lightning-network-to-create-a-poker-game)
by jl777

https://i.imgur.com/udoCJSt.jpg


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] SHA256 BTC clone created to experiment with LN, 10 second blocks
Post by: Metaphilibert on August 12, 2017, 11:23:57 PM
Wow, just read it fast, this is purely amazing!
Pangea finally living! A true decentralized poker (betting) platform! A dream is becoming true.
Among many other amazing Komodo features, i'm very glad to see this (part of) 'old' vision taking shape in the komodo ecosystem (and expand it at the same time)!
will run a node :)


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] SHA256 BTC clone created to experiment with LN, 10 second blocks
Post by: jl777B on August 13, 2017, 10:03:45 AM
Wow, just read it fast, this is purely amazing!
Pangea finally living! A true decentralized poker (betting) platform! A dream is becoming true.
Among many other amazing Komodo features, i'm very glad to see this (part of) 'old' vision taking shape in the komodo ecosystem (and expand it at the same time)!
will run a node :)

dont get too excited yet.

I abstracted out the card shuffling/dealing and generalized it into the privatebet (BET) platform. I will be adding the CHIPS betting into that.

Once that is stable, then the PANGEA (and many other) game statemachine can be added on top of it. This isolates the gameplay for each game from the decentralized shuffling/dealing and betting.

Due to some practical limitations, I will start by using various oracle type of services so we can get something working, sooner rather than later


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] SHA256 BTC clone created to experiment with LN, 10 second blocks
Post by: Birka on August 13, 2017, 11:32:44 AM
This can get more attention with couple of pools set up.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] 10 second blocks, LN active mainnet, privatebet integration komodo
Post by: jl777B on August 13, 2017, 01:41:58 PM
It was quite painful, but I finally got the privatebet code to be able to issue a LN RPC call. it uses unix pipes and I had to link it into a subset of the LN codebase

at least they are now coexisting and I can expose a normal port base RPC


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] 10 second blocks, LN active mainnet, privatebet integration komodo
Post by: jl777B on August 13, 2017, 02:04:32 PM
It was quite painful, but I finally got the privatebet code to be able to issue a LN RPC call. it uses unix pipes and I had to link it into a subset of the LN codebase

at least they are now coexisting and I can expose a normal port base RPC

the chipsln project has a privatebet dir. from there run ./m_bet
then either ./host or ./client after there is a host running

for now it connects to localhost and just generates endless random setting games

however, it also publishes port 7797 where you can POST JSON requests with "agent":"chipsln" added to the various RPC that LN has intrinsically:

https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/blob/master/doc/lightning-invoice.7.txt
etc.

I have only tested getinfo, not sure about the RPC with params yet


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] 10 second blocks, LN active mainnet, privatebet integration komodo
Post by: jl777B on August 13, 2017, 08:12:06 PM
blockrate is now 22 seconds per block with 16 peers over last day
  "blocks": 7119,

but it is 12 seconds/block in the recent hour


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] 10 second blocks, LN active mainnet, privatebet integration komodo
Post by: coiner21 on August 13, 2017, 10:24:18 PM
Any guide to mining this anywhere? been watching these threads and it seems like an awesome idea and that you guys know what youre doing. Would love to be a part of it helping you create it but im technologically challenged.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on August 17, 2017, 09:50:20 AM
updated to new version with much larger OP_RETURN space
until an OP_RETURN that is bigger than 80 bytes is issued the network wont fork, as soon as there is, it will.

I dont expect to be testing the larger OP_RETURN until next week


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] 10 second blocks, LN active mainnet, privatebet integration komodo
Post by: milonite on August 17, 2017, 09:37:10 PM
Any guide to mining this anywhere? been watching these threads and it seems like an awesome idea and that you guys know what youre doing. Would love to be a part of it helping you create it but im technologically challenged.

~ # cat mine.sh
while true
do
chips-cli generatetoaddress 1 <address>
#./chips-cli generate 100000
chips-cli getinfo
done


the mining is cpu?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] 10 second blocks, LN active mainnet, privatebet integration komodo
Post by: jl777B on August 18, 2017, 06:32:15 AM
Any guide to mining this anywhere? been watching these threads and it seems like an awesome idea and that you guys know what youre doing. Would love to be a part of it helping you create it but im technologically challenged.

~ # cat mine.sh
while true
do
chips-cli generatetoaddress 1 <address>
#./chips-cli generate 100000
chips-cli getinfo
done


the mining is cpu?
mining is SHA256
currently it does not have much hashrate at all


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] SHA256 BTC clone created to experiment with LN, 10 second blocks
Post by: Metaphilibert on August 19, 2017, 11:07:46 AM
Wow, just read it fast, this is purely amazing!
Pangea finally living! A true decentralized poker (betting) platform! A dream is becoming true.
Among many other amazing Komodo features, i'm very glad to see this (part of) 'old' vision taking shape in the komodo ecosystem (and expand it at the same time)!
will run a node :)

dont get too excited yet.

I abstracted out the card shuffling/dealing and generalized it into the privatebet (BET) platform. I will be adding the CHIPS betting into that.

Once that is stable, then the PANGEA (and many other) game statemachine can be added on top of it. This isolates the gameplay for each game from the decentralized shuffling/dealing and betting.

Due to some practical limitations, I will start by using various oracle type of services so we can get something working, sooner rather than later

Yeah i should have said "Finally first step for pangea" and yes i am excited. because CHIPS is exciting.
Anyway i managed to run a node with chipsd and LN daemon (149.202.49.218) with ubuntu 16.04 without any problem.
I also have 5 nodes on debian but only managed to build chipsd and chips-cli (and mining ;)). But i have problems to build the LN part, still trying. If someone could figure it out how to build it on debian 8 it could be cool.



Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] 10 second blocks, LN active mainnet, privatebet integration komodo
Post by: shogun47 on August 20, 2017, 04:56:04 PM
Any guide to mining this anywhere? been watching these threads and it seems like an awesome idea and that you guys know what youre doing. Would love to be a part of it helping you create it but im technologically challenged.

~ # cat mine.sh
while true
do
chips-cli generatetoaddress 1 <address>
#./chips-cli generate 100000
chips-cli getinfo
done


the mining is cpu?
mining is SHA256
currently it does not have much hashrate at all

Is there any pool available or is only solo mining possible?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] 10 second blocks, LN active mainnet, privatebet integration komodo
Post by: jl777B on August 20, 2017, 05:35:52 PM
Any guide to mining this anywhere? been watching these threads and it seems like an awesome idea and that you guys know what youre doing. Would love to be a part of it helping you create it but im technologically challenged.

~ # cat mine.sh
while true
do
chips-cli generatetoaddress 1 <address>
#./chips-cli generate 100000
chips-cli getinfo
done


the mining is cpu?
mining is SHA256
currently it does not have much hashrate at all

Is there any pool available or is only solo mining possible?
no pool yet, but solo mining is possible


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on August 20, 2017, 05:58:06 PM
It seems CHIPS is one of the few coins with a movie of the same name: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0493405/


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: JohnnyBTCSeed on August 21, 2017, 08:47:05 PM
It's all about the merchandising.


https://s4.postimg.org/626y4h8vh/guide2.jpg

https://s4.postimg.org/6djt3hzxp/action_figure.png

Vintage jl777 action figure


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: shogun47 on August 23, 2017, 04:11:18 AM
Looks good would like to mine it too ,but can not solo mine.Dev pool please.

Is a pool in the making for this coin? Would like to participate then, too.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on August 23, 2017, 08:56:53 AM
considering CHIPS has had no marketing, nor much of any discussion, it is quite interesting that the hashrate has doubled in recent days

"blocks": 69872,
  "timeoffset": -4,
  "connections": 30,
  "difficulty": 0.01348656036015197,
 

that is double from the floor value, which we were only about halfway toward meeting, so it is more like a 4x increase in hashrate.

I continue to find bugs and issues with the c-lightning https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/issues

however, the issues I am seeing are expected for being the first one to really push it to its limits. So far I am quite pleased with how quickly the lightning devs actually respond and fix the bugs I am reporting.

Dealing with the lightning channels is quite a bit different than the normal API expected for payments, however it has quite a lot of similar aspects to barterDEX. The version 1 of Lightning wont support MofN approvals for payouts, which means that table stakes needs to be controlled by a dealer.

There are two ways around this, the first is to have the dealers deposit a performance bond and in the event of non-compliance to have a claim process using the signed game state transitions as proof of who should win the bet. The second is to have the blockchain process the signed data and allow spending of the performance bond if it is a valid claim.

Needless to say, the former is much easier to do and is a necessary first step for getting the full blockchain enforcement done.

Practically speaking, this means that if you go allin with more chips than the dealer's performance bond, you would be at risk, but for a first out release, this seems acceptable.

On the gameplay side, I got a 10 player roundrobin playing a meaningless game with no gameplay, but using encrypted deck, MofN card dealing, at about 1 second per game. Certainly an actual game state machine is needed, but I dont see many issues in that area once I get the gaming platform supporting betting, cashier and arbitrary gameplay strings.

Clearly, any blockchain enforcing of game claims will require a hardfork, but I am leaning toward doing that after the initial official release, so it will be a planned hardfork. It is getting more and more likely  that the current CHIPS chain will be the mainnet.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on August 23, 2017, 09:03:45 AM
blocktimes are now very close to 10 seconds


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on August 23, 2017, 08:20:26 PM
Now that CHIPS is becoming more and more real, it is time to recruit some mining pools and exchanges.

I am too busy for such things, but if you are able to, then please proactively push CHIPS forward. With the 10 second block rate, it is being mined at over 400,000 CHIPS/day

To get a listing, we need a graphical OP and a block explorer. If there are people here that can help with that, then I can pay for an exchange listing.





Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: grewalsatinder on August 24, 2017, 03:02:37 PM
Now that CHIPS is becoming more and more real, it is time to recruit some mining pools and exchanges.

I am too busy for such things, but if you are able to, then please proactively push CHIPS forward. With the 10 second block rate, it is being mined at over 400,000 CHIPS/day

To get a listing, we need a graphical OP and a block explorer. If there are people here that can help with that, then I can pay for an exchange listing.


So, what are project needs so far?

- Logo and branding design??
- Website
- Block Explorer

I think if we are going to have CHIPS listed on exchanges and make it listed on CoinMarketCap at least these 3 things are main needs to give as info to exchanges.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on August 24, 2017, 03:32:01 PM
Now that CHIPS is becoming more and more real, it is time to recruit some mining pools and exchanges.

I am too busy for such things, but if you are able to, then please proactively push CHIPS forward. With the 10 second block rate, it is being mined at over 400,000 CHIPS/day

To get a listing, we need a graphical OP and a block explorer. If there are people here that can help with that, then I can pay for an exchange listing.


So, what are project needs so far?

- Logo and branding design??
- Website
- Block Explorer

I think if we are going to have CHIPS listed on exchanges and make it listed on CoinMarketCap at least these 3 things are main needs to give as info to exchanges.
good thing you got that nice domain name!
feel free to make some template based website


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on August 25, 2017, 11:35:34 AM
GAME.40898
broadcast.({"method":"start0","numplayers":10,"numrounds":3,"range":36})
136 81 232 147 86 204 12 215 31 182 calc_sharenrs deckid.e3cba5821df40e40baabd444297ef7679216f31abe31fcd890f6b49a3d75601f
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 size 11520 numplayers.10 range.36, alloc.11578
createdeck {"agent":"bet","method":"createdeck","range":36,"pubkeys":["ff2f8ea2846a92e84d9afe6de34c40571ba78575cb27f57539e7ee586d264223", "9877679dac09c4330aa9e9d4b85ef4b4860dc0176ae6da02e254684f985e980c", "bc39aae4d133746fc7fdbe7b08c1595f537d29c49a5edec065fff86ee12ea35a", "89b773d19a41ac295dcbd5f5e9ab233e1b1c9525f84937353dd056fa76c9dc52", "5c0cebfba0beeec74e31406c53509c735d80c88b2da649857f13d7121983574a", "de13814f71810dccb62d5e16bcb2451828c52aafd62aa59f1b69de6ab2ec0215", "cab87008836562ce6e84a3c1c0c358978f4e34f12c56b80b8ab9bf662390c70c", "0f0770c5a07d3c418081a15c9fe3f2ff0e8159a7d8917599f04077e8b6d8ee53", "0980a272621faa5a513fa3fbd9350b114d6934f6fa9aae9de8409d84df32be2f", "cc105e92ba9f9b9585adcb550f9a6d1aacf395e41022661f4d4a4b816a3e571f"]} -> (234884) max.234884
BET_roundstart numcards.36 numplayers.10
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 finished BET_roundstart numcards.36 numplayers.10
Gamestart.1503660744 vs 1503660746 Numplayers.10 Range.36 numplayers.10 numrounds.3
round.0 senderid.0 ([16])
BET_turni_next (0, 0) numplayers.10 range.36
round.0 senderid.1 ([1])
BET_turni_next (1, 0) numplayers.10 range.36
round.0 senderid.2 ([24])
BET_turni_next (2, 0) numplayers.10 range.36
round.0 senderid.3 ([33])
BET_turni_next (3, 0) numplayers.10 range.36
round.0 senderid.4 ([7])
BET_turni_next (4, 0) numplayers.10 range.36
round.0 senderid.5 ([18])
BET_turni_next (5, 0) numplayers.10 range.36
round.0 senderid.6 ([6])
BET_turni_next (6, 0) numplayers.10 range.36
round.0 senderid.7 ([6])
BET_turni_next (7, 0) numplayers.10 range.36
round.0 senderid.8 ([27])
BET_turni_next (8, 0) numplayers.10 range.36
round.0 senderid.9 ([29])
BET_turni_next (9, 0) numplayers.10 range.36
Round.0 completed
BET_statemachine_endround -> 0
round.1 senderid.0 ([13])
BET_turni_next (0, 1) numplayers.10 range.36
round.1 senderid.1 ([29])
BET_turni_next (1, 1) numplayers.10 range.36
round.1 senderid.2 ([13])
BET_turni_next (2, 1) numplayers.10 range.36
round.1 senderid.3 ([30])
BET_turni_next (3, 1) numplayers.10 range.36
round.1 senderid.4 ([24])
BET_turni_next (4, 1) numplayers.10 range.36
round.1 senderid.5 ([4])
BET_turni_next (5, 1) numplayers.10 range.36
round.1 senderid.6 ([20])
BET_turni_next (6, 1) numplayers.10 range.36
round.1 senderid.7 ([13])
BET_turni_next (7, 1) numplayers.10 range.36
round.1 senderid.8 ([8])
BET_turni_next (8, 1) numplayers.10 range.36
round.1 senderid.9 ([3])
BET_turni_next (9, 1) numplayers.10 range.36
Round.1 completed
BET_statemachine_endround -> 1
round.2 senderid.0 ([20])
BET_turni_next (0, 2) numplayers.10 range.36
round.2 senderid.1 ([4])
BET_turni_next (1, 2) numplayers.10 range.36
round.2 senderid.2 ([30])
BET_turni_next (2, 2) numplayers.10 range.36
round.2 senderid.3 ([27])
BET_turni_next (3, 2) numplayers.10 range.36
round.2 senderid.4 ([10])
BET_turni_next (4, 2) numplayers.10 range.36
round.2 senderid.5 ([15])
BET_turni_next (5, 2) numplayers.10 range.36
round.2 senderid.6 ([2])
BET_turni_next (6, 2) numplayers.10 range.36
round.2 senderid.7 ([6])
BET_turni_next (7, 2) numplayers.10 range.36
round.2 senderid.8 ([16])
BET_turni_next (8, 2) numplayers.10 range.36
round.2 senderid.9 ([4])
BET_turni_next (9, 2) numplayers.10 range.36
Round.2 completed
BET_statemachine_endround -> 2
Game completed next start.1503660746 vs 1503660746
------------------

The key is GAME.40898
which is one game every two seconds for a full day's stress test. I think for the basic gameplay loop it is working ok, but the problem is that it is kind of a hardcoded sequence and not very real world. While I wait for an updated lightning with reconnect issues fixed, I will generalize the game play side to handle more real world state machines

I have seen 10 tx/sec node to node LN sendpay, so once that side stabilizes, it will be fast enough for normal play. Slowly but surely things are progressing.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on August 25, 2017, 11:42:06 AM
hashrate at alltime high:   "difficulty": 0.0491800326140874,
ok, its still very low, but it seems some pools are getting ready to come online

CPU mining is likely to get more and more difficult


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: marte1982 on August 25, 2017, 01:54:22 PM
Hi Dev....solo mining is impossible NOW....Pool please....

"blocks": 87584,
"difficulty": 0.0477063325270052
"networkhashps": 19852166.86395622,


We have need of Exchange

PERFECT work DEV.....you are Great


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on August 25, 2017, 01:56:21 PM
Hi Dev....solo mining is impossible NOW....Pool please....

"blocks": 87584,
"difficulty": 0.0477063325270052
"networkhashps": 19852166.86395622,


We have need of Exchange

PERFECT work DEV.....you are Great

pools are in testing now
also I will be applying for exchange listing very soon

of course you can use barterDEX to post trades for CHIPS/KMD


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on August 25, 2017, 05:16:34 PM
  "difficulty": 18.72284388813808,

pools will be announced soon


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on August 25, 2017, 06:17:51 PM
xrobesx has setup a simple mining pool at dabmining.co:8080

I tested it with miningrigrentals.com and it worked fine


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: crackfoo on August 25, 2017, 06:17:57 PM
Hi,

We've added CHIPS to the miners multipool: www.zpool.ca

sha256 pool:

http://www.zpool.ca/site/gomining?algo=sha256

Blocks found by zpool:

http://www.zpool.ca/site/block?id=2447

Explorer:

http://www.zpool.ca/explorer/2447

Peers:

http://www.zpool.ca/explorer/peers?id=2447

Cheers!


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on August 25, 2017, 06:48:54 PM
diff is exploding:   "difficulty": 223.5259006608399,

and now:     "difficulty": 4662.821706772917,




Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: marte1982 on August 25, 2017, 06:53:46 PM
"difficulty": 1298.772521517932,


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: shogun47 on August 25, 2017, 07:02:05 PM
  "difficulty": 18.72284388813808,

pools will be announced soon

Ok, absolutely looking forward to participate in a pool.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on August 25, 2017, 08:00:55 PM
Where is windows wallet ?
you would need to build it from source

also the c-lightning is currently unix only

but even the QT wallet should build, my focus is on the realtime LN interface so I dont have time to deal with all the different OS and GUI


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on August 25, 2017, 08:17:41 PM
Where is windows wallet ?
you would need to build it from source

also the c-lightning is currently unix only

but even the QT wallet should build, my focus is on the realtime LN interface so I dont have time to deal with all the different OS and GUI

In op you wrote ,, we need as many people for that as possible '' ,but you don't have windows wallet.Makes perfect sense.
the current testing is of low level network protocols. not exactly the things windows GUI users are used to doing. not looking for GUI testers yet.

Of course, if someone wants to build the GUI and windows wallets, that is welcome. I just cant do everything myself.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: Birka on August 25, 2017, 08:30:47 PM
James, will CHIPs be integrated into agama? Meaning, can we generate regular address with seed and send CHIPs in there?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on August 25, 2017, 08:35:05 PM
James, will CHIPs be integrated into agama? Meaning, can we generate regular address with seed and send CHIPs in there?
I think eventually it will be, but the address interface would be via privkey export/import

https://support.supernet.org/support/solutions/articles/29000010027-importing-and-exporting-private-keys-in-agama-wallet


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on August 25, 2017, 09:00:59 PM
Can you be more precise with commands to dependencies , sorry first time on linux.
folllow: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2078449.msg20793493#msg20793493


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on August 25, 2017, 09:07:46 PM
Can you be more precise with commands to dependencies , sorry first time on linux.
folllow: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2078449.msg20793493#msg20793493

Yes i follow it all seems ok ,but not that part:
sudo apt-get install software-properties-common autoconf git build-essential libtool libprotobuf-c-dev libgmp-dev libsqlite3-dev python python3 zip libevent-dev pkg-config libssl-dev libcurl4-gnutls-dev cmake

What should i do copy that to terminal or what
yes all that are command line commands


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on August 25, 2017, 09:40:01 PM
Can you be more precise with commands to dependencies , sorry first time on linux.
folllow: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2078449.msg20793493#msg20793493

Yes i follow it all seems ok ,but not that part:
sudo apt-get install software-properties-common autoconf git build-essential libtool libprotobuf-c-dev libgmp-dev libsqlite3-dev python python3 zip libevent-dev pkg-config libssl-dev libcurl4-gnutls-dev cmake

What should i do copy that to terminal or what
yes all that are command line commands

But all in one line or
sudo apt-get install software-properties-common
sudo apt-get install  autoconf git build-essential

When something like above ,can you split that for me , sorry for stupid questions  :)
if you like many lines you can do it one per line
or just all in one line


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on August 26, 2017, 02:11:40 PM
  "difficulty": 902790.3706507593,

...

  "difficulty": 1518056.39624564,


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: komodomining on August 26, 2017, 05:25:14 PM
./chips-cli getblocksubsidy
error code: -32601
error message:
Method not found


no getblocksubsidy right?



Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on August 26, 2017, 06:47:35 PM
./chips-cli getblocksubsidy
error code: -32601
error message:
Method not found


no getblocksubsidy right?


it is a recent BTC fork


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on August 26, 2017, 08:35:59 PM
n41r0j [10:32 PM]
@jl777 CHIPS has been bartered with KMD, add this to coins file: {\"coin\":\"CHIPS\", \"name\": \"chips\", \"rpcport\":57776,\"pubtype\":60, \"p2shtype\":85, \"wiftype\":188, \"txfee\":1000}

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
SWAP completed! 3678262194-3477173309 {"requestid":3678262194,"quoteid":3477173309,"txs":[],"sentflags":["alicespend", "bobspend", "bobpayment", "alicepayment", "bobdeposit", "bobrefund"],"values":[19.99950999, 19.99969999, 19.99960999, 19.99979999, 22.49955998, 0, 0, 22.49945998, 0, 0, 0],"result":"success","status":"finished","paymentspent":"fa82f6c6559b09cc035f9ad9b832a6b606861027701b04a1eda0946a7f619f28","Apaymentspent":"6bee5834c253903a8ff43888f3fdea37c2980afc17f736fa855f0f6e22bd8e11","depositspent":"b9ac559f59bf4fa539b084313693234c8691d3b144d6c8a92835d22460257bcd"}


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: marte1982 on August 27, 2017, 10:02:15 AM
"difficulty": 3195527.840196703,


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on August 27, 2017, 03:44:36 PM
"difficulty": 3195527.840196703,


No need for that hash in testnet even dev said in op that he is not sure if this blockchain will become real chips.
  "difficulty": 7089627.304768353,

hashrate is right around 3 petahash.

This is all really quite unexpected. I did apply for exchange listing, we should hear back in about a week, but I cant control the timing.

we will soon have an up to date explorer and then maybe even a basic website. If you want to be a key contributor for a hot new coin, now is the time to get in involved.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on August 28, 2017, 11:17:10 AM
It seems we are above 10 petahash now?
  "difficulty": 16977993.36874614,

does anybody have an estimate for market price based on the hashrate?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: Birka on August 28, 2017, 02:16:51 PM
It seems we are above 10 petahash now?
  "difficulty": 16977993.36874614,

does anybody have an estimate for market price based on the hashrate?
I'll probably post an obvious thing most guys here understand, but to not do it would mean jeopardizing a lot of newbies' BTC in a week or so, which would consequently lead to a lot of unnecessary disappointment.



Hashrate hype is caused by 2-3 guys solomining from the beginning. For 80k blocks difficulty was low enough to mine with CPU. Guess who's renting now?
I see no point in mining CHIPS atm and would recommend everyone to stay away until they are tradeable for at least a month or two.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: draculacoin on August 30, 2017, 09:46:35 PM
what is unique on this coin?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: shogun47 on August 31, 2017, 05:20:06 AM
What's the situation with a pool? Has there been any progress towards that goal?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: polycryptoblog on August 31, 2017, 06:35:43 AM
what is unique on this coin?

First real-world Lightning Network implementation. 


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on August 31, 2017, 07:59:03 AM
What's the situation with a pool? Has there been any progress towards that goal?
3 of them on OP


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: barthe on August 31, 2017, 11:33:47 AM
Hello,

Where is possible to buy any CHIP?

Thx


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on August 31, 2017, 05:13:52 PM
What's the situation with a pool? Has there been any progress towards that goal?
3 of them on OP
now we are up to four pools


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on August 31, 2017, 09:45:07 PM
Rusty massively reorganized the c-lightning repo, so it took some hours to merge the changes and get things put back together.

I got it running, but some initial connections are not being made now. Once that is fixed, I should be able to run it without many of the recent bugs in the lightning code as part of the massive changes were a bunch of bug fixes.

Separately, I have game state machines mostly generalized and I think it will work for a variety of games. Current simulation just goes through N rounds of random player actions. But it also does a "send all your money to the dealer" logic while simulating games.

So, the todo list is:

1. Get latest code working as it was before and make sure bugs are fixed
2. implement an actual game's statemachine
3. incorporate CHIPS betting into this game
4. allow user input (via curl) to affect betting/gameplay
5. implement the dealer payout to winning player(s)

It seems like a lot, but really it is a small percentage of what has already been achieved. I think knowledge of this by some miners explains the hashrate and to be fair to those not monitoring slack/github I post the details here


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: shogun47 on September 01, 2017, 05:33:11 AM
What's the situation with a pool? Has there been any progress towards that goal?
3 of them on OP
now we are up to four pools

Oops ok, missed that. Will check it out now.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: komodomining on September 07, 2017, 05:31:22 PM
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Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: ComputerGenie on September 09, 2017, 05:53:36 AM
Code:
./bitcoin-qt
nonce.9250234
0000006e75f6aa0efdbf7db03132aa4e4d0c84951537a6f5a7c39a0a9d30e1e7 <- genesis
9bd1c477af8993947cdd9052c0e4c287fda95987b3cc8934b3769d7503852715 <- merkle
nonce.9250234
0000006e75f6aa0efdbf7db03132aa4e4d0c84951537a6f5a7c39a0a9d30e1e7 <- genesis
9bd1c477af8993947cdd9052c0e4c287fda95987b3cc8934b3769d7503852715 <- merkle
bitcoin-qt: chainparams.cpp:238: CTestNetParams::CTestNetParams(): Assertion `consensus.hashGenesisBlock == uint256S("0x000000000933ea01ad0ee984209779baaec3ced90fa3f408719526f8d77f4943")' failed.
Aborted
???


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on September 09, 2017, 11:22:04 AM
Code:
./bitcoin-qt
nonce.9250234
0000006e75f6aa0efdbf7db03132aa4e4d0c84951537a6f5a7c39a0a9d30e1e7 <- genesis
9bd1c477af8993947cdd9052c0e4c287fda95987b3cc8934b3769d7503852715 <- merkle
nonce.9250234
0000006e75f6aa0efdbf7db03132aa4e4d0c84951537a6f5a7c39a0a9d30e1e7 <- genesis
9bd1c477af8993947cdd9052c0e4c287fda95987b3cc8934b3769d7503852715 <- merkle
bitcoin-qt: chainparams.cpp:238: CTestNetParams::CTestNetParams(): Assertion `consensus.hashGenesisBlock == uint256S("0x000000000933ea01ad0ee984209779baaec3ced90fa3f408719526f8d77f4943")' failed.
Aborted
???
seems you built/ran it for testnet
CHIPS is on mainnet


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: ComputerGenie on September 09, 2017, 12:11:23 PM
seems you built/ran it for testnet
...
I can't see how.

Used my boilerplate conf:
Code:
server=1
staking=0
rpcuser=MyUser
rpcpassword=MyPass
port=57777
rpcport=7777
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
rpcallowip=192.168.1.8
daemon=1
gen=0
listen=1
algo=sha256d
maxconnections=25


Built it with:
Quote
   ./autogen.sh
   ./configure
   make
The daemon seems to work fine with that exact same conf and runs on main as expected:
Code:
./chips-cli getmininginfo
{
  "blocks": 201353,
  "currentblocksize": 1000,
  "currentblockweight": 4000,
  "currentblocktx": 0,
  "difficulty": 16592391.91971629,
  "errors": "This is a pre-release test build - use at your own risk - do not use for mining or merchant applications",
  "networkhashps": 5403234843940766,
  "pooledtx": 0,
  "chain": "main"
}




Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on September 09, 2017, 01:36:36 PM
seems you built/ran it for testnet
...
I can't see how.

Used my boilerplate conf:
Code:
server=1
staking=0
rpcuser=MyUser
rpcpassword=MyPass
port=57777
rpcport=7777
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
rpcallowip=192.168.1.8
daemon=1
gen=0
listen=1
algo=sha256d
maxconnections=25


Built it with:
Quote
   ./autogen.sh
   ./configure
   make
The daemon seems to work fine with that exact same conf and runs on main as expected:
Code:
./chips-cli getmininginfo
{
  "blocks": 201353,
  "currentblocksize": 1000,
  "currentblockweight": 4000,
  "currentblocktx": 0,
  "difficulty": 16592391.91971629,
  "errors": "This is a pre-release test build - use at your own risk - do not use for mining or merchant applications",
  "networkhashps": 5403234843940766,
  "pooledtx": 0,
  "chain": "main"
}



bitcoin-qt: chainparams.cpp:238: CTestNetParams::CTestNetParams(): Assertion `consensus.hashGenesisBlock == uint256S("0x000000000933ea01ad0ee984209779baaec3ced90fa3f408719526f8d77f4943")' failed.

it is checking against CTestNetParams, that is why i said you built/ran it for testnet somehow. not sure the details as I havent built the QT wallet, it could be I messed up the makefile for it?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: ComputerGenie on September 10, 2017, 12:45:40 AM
...
  "deprecation-warning": "WARNING: getinfo is deprecated and will be fully removed in 0.16. Projects should transition to using getblockchaininfo, getnetworkinfo, and getwalletinfo before upgrading to 0.16",
...
  "errors": "This is a pre-release test build - use at your own risk - do not use for mining or merchant applications",
...
My both add are on the blockexplorer with balances ,is everything fine on my side ?
Yes, those are fine. They are just for informing you; the 1st being to inform you that eventually "getinfo" will no longer be an option in Bitcoin, and the 2nd reminding you that the wallet isn't a "production/release version" and it may or may not function properly (as expected).


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: ComputerGenie on September 10, 2017, 12:47:07 AM
... it could be I messed up the makefile for it?
That's about the only thing I can think of (other than a bracket mismatch, but I haven't checked anything yet).


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: Supercoiner111 on September 11, 2017, 09:45:01 AM
This is really interesting I would love to mine this however, only ASIC mining no algo for GPU mining?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: komodomining on September 11, 2017, 03:21:33 PM
This is really interesting I would love to mine this however, only ASIC mining no algo for GPU mining?

Hi Supercoin you can mine with GPU too non only with ASICS on http://miningpools.cloud/?pool=chips

Here you can find informations http://miningpools.cloud/?pool=chips#/help
Select your GPU software for AMD or NVIDIA and if have problems you can join gitter chat https://gitter.im/miningpools-cloud/chips

Cheers


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on September 11, 2017, 06:48:32 PM
Thanks to coinexchange.io we have our first exchange!

https://www.coinexchange.io/market/CHIPS/BTC


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: ComputerGenie on September 11, 2017, 08:16:56 PM
Thanks to coinexchange.io we have our first exchange!

https://www.coinexchange.io/market/CHIPS/BTC

:-\ That price + current diff = needs to be auxpow :-\


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on September 11, 2017, 08:25:27 PM
Thanks to coinexchange.io we have our first exchange!

https://www.coinexchange.io/market/CHIPS/BTC

:-\ That price + current diff = needs to be auxpow :-\
some amount of trades at 5000 sats
now  at 2500 sats


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: ComputerGenie on September 11, 2017, 09:00:15 PM
Well, if I pretended that I didn't end up with a 65% orphan rate, I'd still need a block every 20 minutes to break even with mining MazaCoin :/


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: PondSea on September 12, 2017, 03:28:25 AM
Thanks to coinexchange.io we have our first exchange!

https://www.coinexchange.io/market/CHIPS/BTC

:-\ That price + current diff = needs to be auxpow :-\
some amount of trades at 5000 sats
now  at 2500 sats

Average is about 5k sats!


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: ComputerGenie on September 12, 2017, 01:24:38 PM
16 connected nodes and still more orphans than not.  :'(
Any suggestions?  ???


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on September 12, 2017, 02:07:34 PM
16 connected nodes and still more orphans than not.  :'(
Any suggestions?  ???
10 second blocks is the reason. do you have really good bandwidth?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: ComputerGenie on September 12, 2017, 02:16:12 PM
16 connected nodes and still more orphans than not.  :'(
Any suggestions?  ???
10 second blocks is the reason. do you have really good bandwidth?
10M down and 3/4M up
I can mine a couple dozen other coins (although most are 30 seconds+) and no issues like this.  :-\


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on September 12, 2017, 03:31:02 PM
16 connected nodes and still more orphans than not.  :'(
Any suggestions?  ???
10 second blocks is the reason. do you have really good bandwidth?
10M down and 3/4M up
I can mine a couple dozen other coins (although most are 30 seconds+) and no issues like this.  :-\
750kb/sec might be slow enough to cause issues, but it seems hard to imagine such a high orphan rate from just that.

do you blast the new tx to all the peers?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: ComputerGenie on September 12, 2017, 03:41:52 PM
do you blast the new tx to all the peers?
Beyond the conf I pasted earlier, I made no changes; so, you'd know better than me if it does or not. :P


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on September 12, 2017, 04:37:27 PM
do you blast the new tx to all the peers?
Beyond the conf I pasted earlier, I made no changes; so, you'd know better than me if it does or not. :P
it is about the miner details, which I have no idea about
maybe it has a configuration field where you can set the number of peers it relays a new tx to


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: ComputerGenie on September 12, 2017, 05:13:47 PM
EDIT:
Well I feel thoroughly stupid now .... seems, somehow, my refresh interval was set at 600k ms :| So, with no notifier set in the chips conf, I was almost always working on a stale block :(


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on September 12, 2017, 06:27:49 PM
EDIT:
Well I feel thoroughly stupid now .... seems, somehow, my refresh interval was set at 600k ms :| So, with no notifier set in the chips conf, I was almost always working on a stale block :(
but this means you can fix it!
I am glad it was a simple thing


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on September 17, 2017, 08:14:48 PM
Updated the lightningd code to the latest from the blockstream repo
from all the changes and fixes, it should be far more stable now

pretty saturated with adding spv support to barterDEX though, so I wont have time to get back to this until after the cryptography review of the group shuffle algo and I get spv mode into testing.



Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on September 17, 2017, 08:43:19 PM
If you are a C coder and want to help, let me know!


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: kurbeks on September 22, 2017, 03:55:47 PM
Op could be updated with more info. For example block time and etc.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on September 23, 2017, 09:59:58 AM
Op could be updated with more info. For example block time and etc.
added

SHA256, 10 second blocks, rpc port 57776
        pchMessageStart[0] = 0xff;
        pchMessageStart[1] = 0xee;
        pchMessageStart[2] = 0xdd;
        pchMessageStart[3] = 0xcc;
        nDefaultPort = 57777;



Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on September 24, 2017, 09:54:28 PM
highest that I have seen the diff:   "difficulty": 50294621.69293784,

it seems that CHIPS mania is starting


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: mccanonsmith on September 25, 2017, 05:54:25 PM
now live     @  https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/chips/#markets


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: darkistorrik on September 25, 2017, 06:00:19 PM
An interesting idea of a coin. A small number of coins is quite possible the price will be 20,000-40,000s


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on September 25, 2017, 06:06:54 PM
An interesting idea of a coin. A small number of coins is quite possible the price will be 20,000-40,000s
The CMC coins supply is wrong, it is almost a pure BTC fork, so 21 million coins total with 13 million issued so far

http://chips1.explorer.supernet.org/ext/getmoneysupply

With current market price of 5000 sats, the correct marketcap is $2.6 mil, or about rank 200

not bad for absolutely no marketing



Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: mccanonsmith on September 25, 2017, 06:10:29 PM
Anyone that dumps  is a looser. Nothing stops this coin of attaining 60k sat


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: ComputerGenie on September 25, 2017, 06:18:15 PM
Anyone that dumps  is a looser. Nothing stops this coin of attaining 60k sat
I dumped 15k CHIPS to buy new hardware, do that make me a looser, too?  :'(


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: HerthaYid on September 25, 2017, 06:25:08 PM
Only 1,000,000 Coins, this should go up reasonably quickly after being listed on CMC. Are there plans for new exchanges?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: Mrbates on September 25, 2017, 06:40:14 PM
Explorer doesn't work, says all coins are in 1 address still which can't really be the case


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: Oceat on September 25, 2017, 07:07:46 PM
Anyone that dumps  is a looser. Nothing stops this coin of attaining 60k sat
I dumped 15k CHIPS to buy new hardware, do that make me a looser, too?  :'(
Lol... anyway the price is not yet on your expectations but maybe in some time it might pass 60k sats to 70 or 75k sats.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: coldvel on September 25, 2017, 07:17:39 PM
Does chips have any social media eg twitter telegram group etc Any website, roadmap?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: kurbeks on September 25, 2017, 07:35:45 PM
Explorer doesn't work, says all coins are in 1 address still which can't really be the case

This works fine - http://chips1.explorer.supernet.org/ and http://149.202.49.218:3001/


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on September 25, 2017, 07:36:06 PM
Does chips have any social media eg twitter telegram group etc Any website, roadmap?

http://chips1.explorer.supernet.org/ext/getmoneysupply
13362637.67971841

http://chips1.explorer.supernet.org/ is a working explorer

CHIPS is in development stage and we are not actively marketing yet

#chips in the supernet slack has the latest info


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on September 25, 2017, 07:39:19 PM
Does chips have any social media eg twitter telegram group etc Any website, roadmap?
no marketing, not even website

roadmap is to have a realtime betting system using Lightning Network using a decentralized shuffling (whitepaper being written based on implementation).

once that is done, then pangea will be built using the CHIPS services

https://github.com/jl777/lightning has the LN fork with the privatebet realtime betting codebase. still a work in progress and command line only for a while.

Also, it will likely need to have a way to manage table stakes in a blockchain enforceable way.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: Mrbates on September 25, 2017, 08:25:51 PM
Does chips have any social media eg twitter telegram group etc Any website, roadmap?

http://chips1.explorer.supernet.org/ext/getmoneysupply
13362637.67971841

http://chips1.explorer.supernet.org/ is a working explorer

CHIPS is in development stage and we are not actively marketing yet

#chips in the supernet slack has the latest info

Highlight (#bookmark) people reading CMC's 1,000,000 supply like its god and not looking here.

Otherwise its a free bump lol.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on September 25, 2017, 09:21:47 PM
highest that I have seen the diff:   "difficulty": 50294621.69293784,

it seems that CHIPS mania is starting
  "difficulty": 67947630.63619366,

not sure how many PH that is, but I think about 25


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on September 25, 2017, 09:37:05 PM
Quote
18:16 <bluewind> Just curious will chips adopt KMD features minus the interest
18:17 <togethercrypton> I think its going to be standalone except that it will be able to use LN and microtransactions
18:17 <togethercrypton> Primarily used for the poker dAPP
18:18 <jl777> it will switch to dPoW when most the mining is done
18:18 <jl777> it is already supported by barterDEX and we have electrum servers for it
18:19 <jl777> so it is an ecosystem coin and will also be integrated into the gameplay when we get to having games GUI/services
18:19 <jl777> likely many games will be denominated in KMD
18:19 <jl777> but use CHIPS
18:19 <bluewind> Alright makes sense
18:20 <jl777> so we make a specific game's chips equal to 1KMD worth of CHIPS, now you are using CHIPS, Lightning Network, decentralized shuffling, simple smart contracts, and when done, convert the CHIPS back into KMD -> JUMBLR -> nobody but you know where
18:21 <bluewind> yes I was about the ask that
18:21 <bluewind> ok I see
18:21 <jl777> and poker is just one of dozens of possible games that privatebet will support
18:21 <jl777> of course poker is likely to be the most popular
18:22 <bluewind> ok private bet is the platform and poker is like an app
18:22 <bluewind> will private bet then get shares of all the games made and will it be a open platform where dev and make their own games
18:22 <jl777> something like that, though i think marketing wise it is the komodo platform with a privatebet framework and a pangea instance
18:23 <jl777> privatebet is of course open, as all of what i do is
18:24 <jl777> usage of privatebet requires oracle nodes which will get paid for their services in the BET asset, at least I think that is what makes sense, though it might end up being payment in CHIPS
18:24 <jl777> or KMD
18:24 <bluewind> Yes
18:24 <jl777> each pangea game needs a dealer node that also would get some payment for the service maybe in PANGEA (or CHIPS or BET or KMD?)
18:25 <bluewind> any one can be a dealer?
18:25 <jl777> so many details still left to solve, and this project is not my first priority, not until barterDEX is in maintenance mode
18:25 <bluewind> Yea i understand
18:25 <jl777> you would need to be able to run a unix command line to be a dealer, so i guess that means 99.9% of the people wont be able to
18:26 <jl777> but each dealer would run their games and players can choose which dealer's games they like and over time each dealer will get reputations
18:26 <bluewind> Ok that works and makes sense
18:27 <jl777> combine that with the security assurance that both the oracle and dealer need to collude with a player to be able to see the deck, it ensures the maximum security possible within practical means
18:28 <bluewind> Yes there is a lots to do, what about the price fluctuation of chips?
18:28 <jl777> crypto is volatile, it is part of the gaming experience
18:29 <jl777> if you need a solid predictable value, then maybe you shouldnt be gambling
18:29 <bluewind> Yes i guess the dollar also fluctuate one way or the other
18:29 <jl777> and the price fluctuation over the time you are playing wont be that bit
18:29 <jl777> big
18:30 <jl777> so once CHIPS gets enough liquidity, then it becomes a usable coin for betting
18:30 <bluewind> ok yea
18:31 <jl777> but the games can be using "USD chips" which now would be 5 CHIPS, so maybe we get vendors who convert CHIPS into KMD and other things at reasonable rates
18:31 <jl777> its not perfect, but the goal for CHIPS isnt to solve the price stability issue
18:31 <jl777> it is to solve the decentralized gaming issue, which allows to solve a whole generalized class of other problems
18:32 <jl777> and when we get market makers who can make repurchase contracts at reasonable spreads, then we can implement fixed value chips
18:33 <bluewind> yes that a trading class "options"
18:33 <jl777> for example, I would imagine there would be a fair number of BTC, KMD, etc. holders who wouldnt mind making a crypto secured 1% spread
18:37 <bluewind> Yes thanks the guys who make the spread it like an insurance do they get some type of earnings, anyways thanks I just thought you would have use pegged asset features for betting but that will not solve the decentralised issue, and chips will be the only primary coin used for private bet and all the other games am I right?
18:46 <jl777> it needs segwit and i didnt want to contaminate any other coin with that
18:48 <bluewind> deleted the question , you already answered it yes makes sense, cheers
18:50 <togethercrypton> Dude. You a beast. This is great stuff!
18:52 <jl777> I just identify the best tech in each area, like zcash, LN, ILP and add whatever is needed to connect it all together

So Chips will be used on the Komodo platform for any betting game related projects that developers might want to build or is this just more of a test project coin?
realtime betting needs something like LN
I wont add segwit into the zcash codebase
KMD platform needs a realtime micropayments coin

I cant guarantee that there wont be any KMD platform game project that doesnt use CHIPS, but all the ones I am involved in will use CHIPS and CHIPS is the recommended coin for KMD platform micropayments.

It is still in early development phase, but we are working on a mathematical white paper that will hopefully be peer reviewed for the decentralized shuffling and LN speaks for itself, so that provides a good baseline to build games like pangea (poker) on top of.

I will do my best to make it a fully generalizable system, so not only pangea, but any sort of betting (or just micropayment) will be able to be built.

Already barterDEX supports CHIPS, so atomic swaps are available to convert between the coins


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: breezeattack on September 25, 2017, 09:40:01 PM
Quote
18:16 <bluewind> Just curious will chips adopt KMD features minus the interest
18:17 <togethercrypton> I think its going to be standalone except that it will be able to use LN and microtransactions
18:17 <togethercrypton> Primarily used for the poker dAPP
18:18 <jl777> it will switch to dPoW when most the mining is done
18:18 <jl777> it is already supported by barterDEX and we have electrum servers for it
18:19 <jl777> so it is an ecosystem coin and will also be integrated into the gameplay when we get to having games GUI/services
18:19 <jl777> likely many games will be denominated in KMD
18:19 <jl777> but use CHIPS
18:19 <bluewind> Alright makes sense
18:20 <jl777> so we make a specific game's chips equal to 1KMD worth of CHIPS, now you are using CHIPS, Lightning Network, decentralized shuffling, simple smart contracts, and when done, convert the CHIPS back into KMD -> JUMBLR -> nobody but you know where
18:21 <bluewind> yes I was about the ask that
18:21 <bluewind> ok I see
18:21 <jl777> and poker is just one of dozens of possible games that privatebet will support
18:21 <jl777> of course poker is likely to be the most popular
18:22 <bluewind> ok private bet is the platform and poker is like an app
18:22 <bluewind> will private bet then get shares of all the games made and will it be a open platform where dev and make their own games
18:22 <jl777> something like that, though i think marketing wise it is the komodo platform with a privatebet framework and a pangea instance
18:23 <jl777> privatebet is of course open, as all of what i do is
18:24 <jl777> usage of privatebet requires oracle nodes which will get paid for their services in the BET asset, at least I think that is what makes sense, though it might end up being payment in CHIPS
18:24 <jl777> or KMD
18:24 <bluewind> Yes
18:24 <jl777> each pangea game needs a dealer node that also would get some payment for the service maybe in PANGEA (or CHIPS or BET or KMD?)
18:25 <bluewind> any one can be a dealer?
18:25 <jl777> so many details still left to solve, and this project is not my first priority, not until barterDEX is in maintenance mode
18:25 <bluewind> Yea i understand
18:25 <jl777> you would need to be able to run a unix command line to be a dealer, so i guess that means 99.9% of the people wont be able to
18:26 <jl777> but each dealer would run their games and players can choose which dealer's games they like and over time each dealer will get reputations
18:26 <bluewind> Ok that works and makes sense
18:27 <jl777> combine that with the security assurance that both the oracle and dealer need to collude with a player to be able to see the deck, it ensures the maximum security possible within practical means
18:28 <bluewind> Yes there is a lots to do, what about the price fluctuation of chips?
18:28 <jl777> crypto is volatile, it is part of the gaming experience
18:29 <jl777> if you need a solid predictable value, then maybe you shouldnt be gambling
18:29 <bluewind> Yes i guess the dollar also fluctuate one way or the other
18:29 <jl777> and the price fluctuation over the time you are playing wont be that bit
18:29 <jl777> big
18:30 <jl777> so once CHIPS gets enough liquidity, then it becomes a usable coin for betting
18:30 <bluewind> ok yea
18:31 <jl777> but the games can be using "USD chips" which now would be 5 CHIPS, so maybe we get vendors who convert CHIPS into KMD and other things at reasonable rates
18:31 <jl777> its not perfect, but the goal for CHIPS isnt to solve the price stability issue
18:31 <jl777> it is to solve the decentralized gaming issue, which allows to solve a whole generalized class of other problems
18:32 <jl777> and when we get market makers who can make repurchase contracts at reasonable spreads, then we can implement fixed value chips
18:33 <bluewind> yes that a trading class "options"
18:33 <jl777> for example, I would imagine there would be a fair number of BTC, KMD, etc. holders who wouldnt mind making a crypto secured 1% spread
18:37 <bluewind> Yes thanks the guys who make the spread it like an insurance do they get some type of earnings, anyways thanks I just thought you would have use pegged asset features for betting but that will not solve the decentralised issue, and chips will be the only primary coin used for private bet and all the other games am I right?
18:46 <jl777> it needs segwit and i didnt want to contaminate any other coin with that
18:48 <bluewind> deleted the question , you already answered it yes makes sense, cheers
18:50 <togethercrypton> Dude. You a beast. This is great stuff!
18:52 <jl777> I just identify the best tech in each area, like zcash, LN, ILP and add whatever is needed to connect it all together

So Chips will be used on the Komodo platform for any betting game related projects that developers might want to build or is this just more of a test project coin?
realtime betting needs something like LN
I wont add segwit into the zcash codebase
KMD platform needs a realtime micropayments coin

I cant guarantee that there wont be any KMD platform game project that doesnt use CHIPS, but all the ones I am involved in will use CHIPS and CHIPS is the recommended coin for KMD platform micropayments.

It is still in early development phase, but we are working on a mathematical white paper that will hopefully be peer reviewed for the decentralized shuffling and LN speaks for itself, so that provides a good baseline to build games like pangea (poker) on top of.

I will do my best to make it a fully generalizable system, so not only pangea, but any sort of betting (or just micropayment) will be able to be built.

Already barterDEX supports CHIPS, so atomic swaps are available to convert between the coins

Awesome got it. What's the relation b/w jl777 and your username jl777B? Why the two accounts? Seems a bit strange.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on September 25, 2017, 09:43:43 PM
Quote
18:16 <bluewind> Just curious will chips adopt KMD features minus the interest
18:17 <togethercrypton> I think its going to be standalone except that it will be able to use LN and microtransactions
18:17 <togethercrypton> Primarily used for the poker dAPP
18:18 <jl777> it will switch to dPoW when most the mining is done
18:18 <jl777> it is already supported by barterDEX and we have electrum servers for it
18:19 <jl777> so it is an ecosystem coin and will also be integrated into the gameplay when we get to having games GUI/services
18:19 <jl777> likely many games will be denominated in KMD
18:19 <jl777> but use CHIPS
18:19 <bluewind> Alright makes sense
18:20 <jl777> so we make a specific game's chips equal to 1KMD worth of CHIPS, now you are using CHIPS, Lightning Network, decentralized shuffling, simple smart contracts, and when done, convert the CHIPS back into KMD -> JUMBLR -> nobody but you know where
18:21 <bluewind> yes I was about the ask that
18:21 <bluewind> ok I see
18:21 <jl777> and poker is just one of dozens of possible games that privatebet will support
18:21 <jl777> of course poker is likely to be the most popular
18:22 <bluewind> ok private bet is the platform and poker is like an app
18:22 <bluewind> will private bet then get shares of all the games made and will it be a open platform where dev and make their own games
18:22 <jl777> something like that, though i think marketing wise it is the komodo platform with a privatebet framework and a pangea instance
18:23 <jl777> privatebet is of course open, as all of what i do is
18:24 <jl777> usage of privatebet requires oracle nodes which will get paid for their services in the BET asset, at least I think that is what makes sense, though it might end up being payment in CHIPS
18:24 <jl777> or KMD
18:24 <bluewind> Yes
18:24 <jl777> each pangea game needs a dealer node that also would get some payment for the service maybe in PANGEA (or CHIPS or BET or KMD?)
18:25 <bluewind> any one can be a dealer?
18:25 <jl777> so many details still left to solve, and this project is not my first priority, not until barterDEX is in maintenance mode
18:25 <bluewind> Yea i understand
18:25 <jl777> you would need to be able to run a unix command line to be a dealer, so i guess that means 99.9% of the people wont be able to
18:26 <jl777> but each dealer would run their games and players can choose which dealer's games they like and over time each dealer will get reputations
18:26 <bluewind> Ok that works and makes sense
18:27 <jl777> combine that with the security assurance that both the oracle and dealer need to collude with a player to be able to see the deck, it ensures the maximum security possible within practical means
18:28 <bluewind> Yes there is a lots to do, what about the price fluctuation of chips?
18:28 <jl777> crypto is volatile, it is part of the gaming experience
18:29 <jl777> if you need a solid predictable value, then maybe you shouldnt be gambling
18:29 <bluewind> Yes i guess the dollar also fluctuate one way or the other
18:29 <jl777> and the price fluctuation over the time you are playing wont be that bit
18:29 <jl777> big
18:30 <jl777> so once CHIPS gets enough liquidity, then it becomes a usable coin for betting
18:30 <bluewind> ok yea
18:31 <jl777> but the games can be using "USD chips" which now would be 5 CHIPS, so maybe we get vendors who convert CHIPS into KMD and other things at reasonable rates
18:31 <jl777> its not perfect, but the goal for CHIPS isnt to solve the price stability issue
18:31 <jl777> it is to solve the decentralized gaming issue, which allows to solve a whole generalized class of other problems
18:32 <jl777> and when we get market makers who can make repurchase contracts at reasonable spreads, then we can implement fixed value chips
18:33 <bluewind> yes that a trading class "options"
18:33 <jl777> for example, I would imagine there would be a fair number of BTC, KMD, etc. holders who wouldnt mind making a crypto secured 1% spread
18:37 <bluewind> Yes thanks the guys who make the spread it like an insurance do they get some type of earnings, anyways thanks I just thought you would have use pegged asset features for betting but that will not solve the decentralised issue, and chips will be the only primary coin used for private bet and all the other games am I right?
18:46 <jl777> it needs segwit and i didnt want to contaminate any other coin with that
18:48 <bluewind> deleted the question , you already answered it yes makes sense, cheers
18:50 <togethercrypton> Dude. You a beast. This is great stuff!
18:52 <jl777> I just identify the best tech in each area, like zcash, LN, ILP and add whatever is needed to connect it all together

So Chips will be used on the Komodo platform for any betting game related projects that developers might want to build or is this just more of a test project coin?
realtime betting needs something like LN
I wont add segwit into the zcash codebase
KMD platform needs a realtime micropayments coin

I cant guarantee that there wont be any KMD platform game project that doesnt use CHIPS, but all the ones I am involved in will use CHIPS and CHIPS is the recommended coin for KMD platform micropayments.

It is still in early development phase, but we are working on a mathematical white paper that will hopefully be peer reviewed for the decentralized shuffling and LN speaks for itself, so that provides a good baseline to build games like pangea (poker) on top of.

I will do my best to make it a fully generalizable system, so not only pangea, but any sort of betting (or just micropayment) will be able to be built.

Already barterDEX supports CHIPS, so atomic swaps are available to convert between the coins

Awesome got it. What's the relation b/w jl777 and your username jl777B? Why the two accounts? Seems a bit strange.
I put the laptop with the jl777 login into cold storage and too lazy to retrieve it just to use the jl777 handle.

Also, I got an offer for $12 to sell this handle! Maybe I can get rich by making jl777* handles :)


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: okie dokie on September 25, 2017, 09:49:07 PM
I believe I read somewhere that chips and kmd use the same addresses.

Can chips be sent to the kmd paper wallet?



Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on September 25, 2017, 09:59:13 PM
I believe I read somewhere that chips and kmd use the same addresses.

Can chips be sent to the kmd paper wallet?


yes, the same privkey will work for both coins


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: snowdropfore on September 26, 2017, 12:09:01 AM
COINMARKETCAP say it is 1000000 Total Supply,it that true? if not ,how many total supply ,many thanks.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on September 26, 2017, 12:54:53 AM
COINMARKETCAP say it is 1000000 Total Supply,it that true? if not ,how many total supply ,many thanks.
answered previous page: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2078449.msg22214462#msg22214462


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: snowdropfore on September 26, 2017, 02:12:01 AM
no wallet now? i buy at the exchange ,but i do not want to leave them in the exchang ,i want to withdrawl to my locai wallet ,what should i
do ??


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: marcelocoin on September 26, 2017, 02:14:25 AM
I am a big fan of poker, what would be the main functionality of your COIN CHIPS, thank you for your attention


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: breezeattack on September 26, 2017, 03:22:07 AM
I am a big fan of poker, what would be the main functionality of your COIN CHIPS, thank you for your attention

This was from one of the devs:
"I will do my best to make it a fully generalizable system, so not only pangea, but any sort of betting (or just micropayment) will be able to be built."

A couple of things additionally I want to know, so if I create my own blockchain with Komodo, assuming Chips is part of the plug and play system, at what point would I also want to use Chips and feel the need to use it?  Basically, what type of scenarios besides betting types games such as poker might this be used for? Also, since this is just a Bitcoin fork, why wouldn't you just use Bitcoin vs creating a whole entire new coin?

Also one note, with a name like Chips and the logo being some sort of pokerish style coin. If this coin in the future will be used for other things such as micropayments, it would probably be best to change the logo now rather than wait later. It will start getting confused for just being used for betting games and might be a nightmare from a branding standpoint.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: dreamhouse on September 26, 2017, 03:35:41 AM
An interesting idea of a coin. A small number of coins is quite possible the price will be 20,000-40,000s
The CMC coins supply is wrong, it is almost a pure BTC fork, so 21 million coins total with 13 million issued so far

http://chips1.explorer.supernet.org/ext/getmoneysupply

With current market price of 5000 sats, the correct marketcap is $2.6 mil, or about rank 200

not bad for absolutely no marketing



Does it mean it is a btc fork like Bitcoincash? How to get the coin besides the exchange buying?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: snowdropfore on September 26, 2017, 08:20:39 AM
i need a wallet to keep my chips safe ,somebody teach me where to find it ,many thanks


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on September 26, 2017, 08:24:10 AM
no wallet now? i buy at the exchange ,but i do not want to leave them in the exchang ,i want to withdrawl to my locai wallet ,what should i
do ??
you can withdraw to any KMD address that you control the privkey for
then just importprivkey into chipsd


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on September 26, 2017, 08:25:38 AM
I am a big fan of poker, what would be the main functionality of your COIN CHIPS, thank you for your attention
CHIPS will support realtime micropayments, especially for gaming like poker
more details as they are determined.



Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on September 26, 2017, 08:30:11 AM
I am a big fan of poker, what would be the main functionality of your COIN CHIPS, thank you for your attention

This was from one of the devs:
"I will do my best to make it a fully generalizable system, so not only pangea, but any sort of betting (or just micropayment) will be able to be built."

A couple of things additionally I want to know, so if I create my own blockchain with Komodo, assuming Chips is part of the plug and play system, at what point would I also want to use Chips and feel the need to use it?  Basically, what type of scenarios besides betting types games such as poker might this be used for? Also, since this is just a Bitcoin fork, why wouldn't you just use Bitcoin vs creating a whole entire new coin?

Also one note, with a name like Chips and the logo being some sort of pokerish style coin. If this coin in the future will be used for other things such as micropayments, it would probably be best to change the logo now rather than wait later. It will start getting confused for just being used for betting games and might be a nightmare from a branding standpoint.
I cannot know when you would feel one way or the other, but i would imagine if you had a use case of wanting to send funds from one node to another with minimal txfee and time. or needed decentralized shuffling

any game with multiple players that relies on a random number

Do you want to pay $4 for a 5 cent bet? Do you want to wait an average of 10 minutes after each bet?

Those are two reasons to make a coin especially for this. Do you want to load 150GB blockchain just to play?

I dont pay much attention to marketing, I just concentrate on the tech. Once there is working tech to market and there is a marketing team, then can decide such things.

join #chips in the supernet slack to participate


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on September 26, 2017, 08:30:47 AM
An interesting idea of a coin. A small number of coins is quite possible the price will be 20,000-40,000s
The CMC coins supply is wrong, it is almost a pure BTC fork, so 21 million coins total with 13 million issued so far

http://chips1.explorer.supernet.org/ext/getmoneysupply

With current market price of 5000 sats, the correct marketcap is $2.6 mil, or about rank 200

not bad for absolutely no marketing



Does it mean it is a btc fork like Bitcoincash? How to get the coin besides the exchange buying?
it is pure SHA256
plenty of place to rent hash power


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on September 26, 2017, 12:09:22 PM
  "difficulty": 117212639.5218725,

can someone calculate a mining cost per CHIP based on diff?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: snowdropfore on September 26, 2017, 12:27:47 PM
look at the difficulty ,i think the price is pretty cheap. just buy and buy . i am buying ,and holding for long term, hope we can get a windows wallet soon.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: CrazyCreeptonaut on September 26, 2017, 12:28:35 PM
A good idea for this coin is making a big site like pogo.com that have all this betting games for free & for betting to use only CHIPS. can even be experimented with a already known site since more and more people believe in the cryptos.

BTW, can this coin be mined into the KMD paper wallet?

Thx


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: snowdropfore on September 26, 2017, 12:54:38 PM
no wallet now? i buy at the exchange ,but i do not want to leave them in the exchang ,i want to withdrawl to my locai wallet ,what should i
do ??
you can withdraw to any KMD address that you control the privkey for
then just importprivkey into chipsd

 does mean that i can send my chips to my any KMD address? i don't  understand ,sorry ? something like ETH ??


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on September 26, 2017, 12:57:22 PM
A good idea for this coin is making a big site like pogo.com that have all this betting games for free & for betting to use only CHIPS. can even be experimented with a already known site since more and more people believe in the cryptos.

BTW, can this coin be mined into the KMD paper wallet?

Thx
yes

same privkey can be imported into chipsd


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on September 26, 2017, 12:58:44 PM
look at the difficulty ,i think the price is pretty cheap. just buy and buy . i am buying ,and holding for long term, hope we can get a windows wallet soon.
I dont do windows.

So, for windows somebody would have to build the windows version, same goes for osx.

However, there is an electrum server for CHIPS and I hear soon we will have Agama support, that should be enough for most users.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: ComputerGenie on September 26, 2017, 02:13:35 PM
Well, even in nix, the qt source builds BTC Core (looks at bitcoin-qt config for data files, but uses CHIPS porting), so there's that. :P


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on September 26, 2017, 02:50:00 PM
Well, even in nix, the qt source builds BTC Core (looks at bitcoin-qt config for data files, but uses CHIPS porting), so there's that. :P
my plan of not making windows version means we can avoid all the windows issues :)


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: ComputerGenie on September 26, 2017, 02:59:16 PM
Well, even in nix, the qt source builds BTC Core (looks at bitcoin-qt config for data files, but uses CHIPS porting), so there's that. :P
my plan of not making windows version means we can avoid all the windows issues :)
#SwingToTheRescue


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: DigeNarrator on September 26, 2017, 08:25:00 PM
i read the page on supernet site and this ANN
the project sounds interesting
now i see that more things will be possible in the lightning network :)


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: kabi123 on September 26, 2017, 08:32:54 PM
common, windows wallet...!!!!! i want windows qt walletpfff!!!!!


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: ComputerGenie on September 26, 2017, 08:48:53 PM
common, windows wallet...!!!!! i want windows qt walletpfff!!!!!
Want in one hand and.....


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: jl777B on September 27, 2017, 04:52:44 PM
 "difficulty": 117212639.5218725,

can someone calculate a mining cost per CHIP based on diff?
161168897.8296677

seems the diff keeps going up...


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: ComputerGenie on September 27, 2017, 05:28:00 PM
 "difficulty": 117212639.5218725,

can someone calculate a mining cost per CHIP based on diff?
161168897.8296677

seems the diff keeps going up...
Mining cost calc depends on electric usage cost, miner type/efficiency, internet connection, diff, and setup.

The cost per CHIP is greater for someone with
  • an S7
  • in a pool
  • paying 8 cents per KWh
  • on DSL
vs
  • an S9
  • solo-mining
  • paying 9 cents per KWh
  • on fiber

Then when you add revolving diff into the mix.....


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: ComputerGenie on September 27, 2017, 06:01:09 PM
that being said...
Blocks per day (blocksPer) is:
Code:
24 / ((difficulty * Math.pow(2, 32)) / ((Math.pow(10, 12) * CurrentTH) * 3600))
So coins per day (coinsPer) is:
Code:
(reward * blocksPer)
And Cost per rig is:
Code:
Cost($/day) = E(kWh/day) × Cost(cent/kWh) / 100(cent/$)

If I'm awake enough for all of this....

An S9 @ 10 cents per kWh and 88M diff would be:
$3.492 per day to run
2.97 blocks per day
74.25 coins per day
~4.7 cents per coin




Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on September 27, 2017, 06:14:10 PM
that being said...
Blocks per day (blocksPer) is:
Code:
24 / ((difficulty * Math.pow(2, 32)) / ((Math.pow(10, 12) * CurrentTH) * 3600))
So coins per day (coinsPer) is:
Code:
(reward * blocksPer)
And Cost per rig is:
Code:
Cost($/day) = E(kWh/day) × Cost(cent/kWh) / 100(cent/$)

If I'm awake enough for all of this....

An S9 @ 10 cents per kWh and 88M diff would be:
$3.492 per day to run
2.97 blocks per day
74.25 coins per day
~4.7 cents per coin



what if you use rented hashrate, like miningpoolrentals?
experimentally each 2 to 3 million diff seems to be a PH and that costs 0.3 BTC/day

so 88M diff is say 35 PH or 10 BTC per day for ~200K coins -> 5000 sats or 20 cents per coin


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: ComputerGenie on September 27, 2017, 06:21:59 PM
what if you use rented hashrate, like miningpoolrentals?
...
I'm too lazy for that much math manually  :P


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on September 27, 2017, 06:27:54 PM
what if you use rented hashrate, like miningpoolrentals?
...
I'm too lazy for that much math manually  :P
well if you can mine at 5 cents a CHIP, it is highly profitable, thats for sure


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: ptytrader on September 27, 2017, 07:16:37 PM
We plan on using Chips as the token for online gambling since it will make use of Bitcoin's LN. What's interesting is that there was no marketing, no ICO, or GUI wallet. It was launched and has taken off by itself. The hashrate is enormous. It's proof how the community takes something and runs with it. 


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Coinchange on September 27, 2017, 07:40:39 PM
We plan on using Chips as the token for online gambling since it will make use of Bitcoin's LN. What's interesting is that there was no marketing, no ICO, or GUI wallet. It was launched and has taken off by itself. The hashrate is enormous. It's proof how the community takes something and runs with it. 
First real LN usecase ?!


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on September 27, 2017, 07:50:31 PM
We plan on using Chips as the token for online gambling since it will make use of Bitcoin's LN. What's interesting is that there was no marketing, no ICO, or GUI wallet. It was launched and has taken off by itself. The hashrate is enormous. It's proof how the community takes something and runs with it.  
First real LN usecase ?!
I think so. I had the realtime betting mostly working with an earlier rev of the LN code. I rebased to the latest but have been too busy with barterDEX to make much more progress with the privatebet side of CHIPS.

but its just a matter of getting some coding time to get it back working again.

I also got feedback from the cryptographer regarding the decentralized shuffling, and I cant disclose all the details yet, but it seems the market is anticipating something significant and I wont say it isnt. I asked for a math paper to be written based on the code I wrote and it turns out to have a lot more math in it that I realized.

Anyway, the process of getting a peer reviewed published paper will take 6 months or so, and realistically so will getting some sort of playable demo that has a GUI. So there isnt anything here in the short term. Just a fun old school purely mined coin with volunteers.

But I designed things so that when barterDEX is stable with the SPV electrums, CHIPS is already supported, so it can be directly atomic swapped with any other supported coin. And we could also use the Agama wallet if somebody ever figures out how to build windows and osx versions.

So without taking much (if any) of my time, we might actually get cross platform support and GUI wallet. And sometime next year we should have the first demo games.

CHIPS incorporates the LN functionality but also the decentralized shuffling and will support plugging in game specific statemachines that would publish an api port for that game, which a game specific GUI can use. Which means CHIPS and LN, wont be just for poker, but for any game that needs a crypto secured random number(s) that is verifiable in realtime.

Hmmm... Maybe CHIPS mania isnt so crazy after all

and remember CHIPS is part of the Komodo Platform and provides these powers for KMD, in turn, people can do things like get total privacy using JUMBLR, in case that is desired for their CHIPS winnings.

CHIPS -> barterDEX KMD -> JUMBLR -> barterDEX BTC and you would have totally unlinked BTC from your CHIPS.

Making easy to use GUI for such a long chain will be a challenge


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: breezeattack on September 27, 2017, 08:39:20 PM
We plan on using Chips as the token for online gambling since it will make use of Bitcoin's LN. What's interesting is that there was no marketing, no ICO, or GUI wallet. It was launched and has taken off by itself. The hashrate is enormous. It's proof how the community takes something and runs with it. 
First real LN usecase ?!
I think so. I had the realtime betting mostly working with an earlier rev of the LN code. I rebased to the latest but have been too busy with barterDEX to make much more progress with the privatebet side of CHIPS.

but its just a matter of getting some coding time to get it back working again.

I also got feedback from the cryptographer regarding the decentralized shuffling, and I cant disclose all the details yet, but it seems the market is anticipating something significant and I wont say it isnt. I asked for a math paper to be written based on the code I wrote and it turns out to have a lot more math in it that I realized.

Anyway, the process of getting a peer reviewed published paper will take 6 months or so, and realistically so will getting some sort of playable demo that has a GUI. So there isnt anything here in the short term. Just a fun old school purely mined coin with volunteers.

But I designed things so that when barterDEX is stable with the SPV electrums, CHIPS is already supported, so it can be directly atomic swapped with any other supported coin. And we could also use the Agama wallet if somebody ever figures out how to build windows and osx versions.

So without taking much (if any) of my time, we might actually get cross platform support and GUI wallet. And sometime next year we should have the first demo games.

CHIPS incorporates the LN functionality but also the decentralized shuffling and will support plugging in game specific statemachines that would publish an api port for that game, which a game specific GUI can use. Which means CHIPS and LN, wont be just for poker, but for any game that needs a crypto secured random number(s) that is verifiable in realtime.

Hmmm... Maybe CHIPS mania isnt so crazy after all

and remember CHIPS is part of the Komodo Platform and provides these powers for KMD, in turn, people can do things like get total privacy using JUMBLR, in case that is desired for their CHIPS winnings.

CHIPS -> barterDEX KMD -> JUMBLR -> barterDEX BTC and you would have totally unlinked BTC from your CHIPS.

Making easy to use GUI for such a long chain will be a challenge


I mean Pangea has 312.1 BTC in it's holding, so that alone will help raise the price. Plus a truly private system for betting. Plus the project is associated with the Komodo Platform that will allow for other developers building betting systems to enable Chips in a plug and play way. Fun fair is worth $100M and hasn't launched really anything that amazing yet (they aren't even focused on Poker type games), so it's a bet that the technology here in the long term will win. Not that crazy for a project from the lead dev of Komodo to increase in value :p


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: mikyadel on September 27, 2017, 09:55:19 PM
so what make this coin diffrerent from other poker and gambling coins ?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: outthu141 on September 28, 2017, 04:16:11 AM
why CHIPS use website'Supernet coin?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] first realtime LN app using privatebet (BET) a komodo assetchain
Post by: CHMEX1 on September 28, 2017, 05:30:23 AM
COINMARKETCAP say it is 1000000 Total Supply,it that true? if not ,how many total supply ,many thanks.
answered previous page: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2078449.msg22214462#msg22214462

CMC came back to me and it's adjusted now after supplying some documentation and the rest of the information.

https://i.imgur.com/1KgAapt.png

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/chips/


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: n41r0j on September 28, 2017, 08:53:19 AM
so what make this coin diffrerent from other poker and gambling coins ?

Did you read the post, just 2 above yours? Let me sum this up for you:

First of all, jl777 says he has solved most, if not all, problems that have prohibited the development of any decentralized poker platform in the field.
On top of that, you can anonymize your winnings by using JUMBLR. So, suppose you win a big game of poker, you jumble your winnings and no-one has proof that your btc or kmd or whatever coin is popular by then, were won with gambling. This is quite huge, since there are a lot of legal issues regarding online poker, not only in the US.
It is the first coin to actually make good use of the Lightning Network. Just check this issues list to see the help LN gets from jl777: https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue%20author%3Ajl777%20 (https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue%20author%3Ajl777%20)
It is a Bitcoin fork, and does not use Ethereums smart contracts, like a lot of other gambling coins do.

I'm gonna say it: It's a game changer.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on September 28, 2017, 10:16:36 AM
Just hired @Natasha (in SuperNET slack) fulltime

she has a lot of industry experience and will be doing non-technical aspects of what is needed for CHIPS/BET/PANGEA

from slack:

Natasha [1:19 PM]
I am a former CCO in iGaming

15yrs+ in Tech. Former CXO 5 Fintechs in emerging payments.. Provided back office to one of the 1st cryptos - icoins, in 2008

https://www.linkedin.com/in/natashahomerearley


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: farl4web on September 28, 2017, 12:56:16 PM
Welcome @Natasha. Good luck with the new job!  :)


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: breezeattack on September 28, 2017, 03:15:12 PM
Just hired @Natasha (in SuperNET slack) fulltime

she has a lot of industry experience and will be doing non-technical aspects of what is needed for CHIPS/BET/PANGEA

from slack:

Natasha [1:19 PM]
I am a former CCO in iGaming

15yrs+ in Tech. Former CXO 5 Fintechs in emerging payments.. Provided back office to one of the 1st cryptos - icoins, in 2008

https://www.linkedin.com/in/natashahomerearley

Awesome! How many engineers to plan to hire for CHIPS/BET/PANGEA?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on September 28, 2017, 03:42:08 PM
Just hired @Natasha (in SuperNET slack) fulltime

she has a lot of industry experience and will be doing non-technical aspects of what is needed for CHIPS/BET/PANGEA

from slack:

Natasha [1:19 PM]
I am a former CCO in iGaming

15yrs+ in Tech. Former CXO 5 Fintechs in emerging payments.. Provided back office to one of the 1st cryptos - icoins, in 2008

https://www.linkedin.com/in/natashahomerearley

Awesome! How many engineers to plan to hire for CHIPS/BET/PANGEA?
just me for the core coding, not sure about the GUI side


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: _ATOmix_ on September 28, 2017, 08:51:02 PM
Stupid question incoming, is it possible to mine this on a R9 x280? Tried with cgminer with no success, 0 Mh/s.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: ComputerGenie on September 28, 2017, 08:59:18 PM
Stupid question incoming, is it possible to mine this on a R9 x280? Tried with cgminer with no success, 0 Mh/s.
Try Optiminer (https://github.com/Optiminer/OptiminerZcash) or Claymore's (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1670733.0) miner, I can't imagine that cgminer would do equihash.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: scorpio18 on September 28, 2017, 10:49:03 PM
Hello

I just added CHIPS to https://pool.coin-miners.info stratum settings: -o stratum+tcp://stratum-eu.coin-miners.info:3333 -u CHIPS_WALLET_ADDRESS -p c=CHIPS

Payouts are made automatically every 1 hours for all balances above 0.01, or 0.001 on Sunday.

Peers list: https://pool.coin-miners.info/explorer/peers?id=3726


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: VeeTeaSee on September 29, 2017, 06:05:19 AM
Welcome to Natasha!! its very good to join to superNET family :)
its like a dream come true,
just a day after i was talking in the slack about this kind of event
good luck


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: snowdropfore on October 01, 2017, 12:05:48 PM
is that any plan add to another biger exchange ,cause coinexchange seems volume a little small.anyway, i am for the long term. just hodling,there are only 21000000 chips ,with the potential ,i think is undervalued.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on October 01, 2017, 12:18:22 PM
is that any plan add to another biger exchange ,cause coinexchange seems volume a little small.anyway, i am for the long term. just hodling,there are only 21000000 chips ,with the potential ,i think is undervalued.
I am not against it

it is supported by barterDEX core


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: mon3yk1ng5 on October 01, 2017, 10:40:08 PM
Can chips be sent to a current kmd address? and accessed using the Kmd address private key when necessary i.e importing and exporting.




Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on October 02, 2017, 05:27:17 AM
Can chips be sent to a current kmd address? and accessed using the Kmd address private key when necessary i.e importing and exporting.



yes


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: geoffvro on October 02, 2017, 10:42:18 PM
Can chips be sent to a current kmd address? and accessed using the Kmd address private key when necessary i.e importing and exporting.



yes

Hopefully this is not a stupid question.   I was able to get chipsd up and running, and import my private key from my KMD wallet nto the chips wallet.  My Chips balance shows up fine, but I get "Invalid Bitcoin Address" when I attempted to send chips coins to the chips address provided by coinexchange.io.  I only attempted to send 10 chips as a test.

Thanks


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on October 03, 2017, 07:48:01 AM
Can chips be sent to a current kmd address? and accessed using the Kmd address private key when necessary i.e importing and exporting.



yes

Hopefully this is not a stupid question.   I was able to get chipsd up and running, and import my private key from my KMD wallet nto the chips wallet.  My Chips balance shows up fine, but I get "Invalid Bitcoin Address" when I attempted to send chips coins to the chips address provided by coinexchange.io.  I only attempted to send 10 chips as a test.

Thanks
Do all the addresses start with "R"


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: geoffvro on October 03, 2017, 01:59:00 PM
Can chips be sent to a current kmd address? and accessed using the Kmd address private key when necessary i.e importing and exporting.



yes

Hopefully this is not a stupid question.   I was able to get chipsd up and running, and import my private key from my KMD wallet nto the chips wallet.  My Chips balance shows up fine, but I get "Invalid Bitcoin Address" when I attempted to send chips coins to the chips address provided by coinexchange.io.  I only attempted to send 10 chips as a test.

Thanks
Do all the addresses start with "R"

Yes, they do


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: geoffvro on October 03, 2017, 03:02:08 PM
Can chips be sent to a current kmd address? and accessed using the Kmd address private key when necessary i.e importing and exporting.



yes

Hopefully this is not a stupid question.   I was able to get chipsd up and running, and import my private key from my KMD wallet nto the chips wallet.  My Chips balance shows up fine, but I get "Invalid Bitcoin Address" when I attempted to send chips coins to the chips address provided by coinexchange.io.  I only attempted to send 10 chips as a test.

Thanks
Do all the addresses start with "R"

Yes, they do

Okay, I got it.   I have to use the "sendfrom" command.

Thanks.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on October 03, 2017, 03:32:20 PM
Thanks to decker we have binary release for QT wallet(s)
unix and windows

https://github.com/DeckerSU/chips3/releases/tag/v0.14.99_decker_1


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: ComputerGenie on October 03, 2017, 03:57:22 PM
Sweet, I was 1/2way there, but got side-tracked  :-\


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: kurbeks on October 03, 2017, 04:02:09 PM
Thanks to decker we have binary release for QT wallet(s)
unix and windows

https://github.com/DeckerSU/chips3/releases/tag/v0.14.99_decker_1

Hip Hip Hooray to Decker


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on October 03, 2017, 05:22:11 PM
Sweet, I was 1/2way there, but got side-tracked  :-\
QT wallet should be there too
only osx is missing
but i merged his changes into my source tree, so it could be that QT will build for all OS, not sure

plz confirm here if it works, include OS and whether QT or command line


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: ComputerGenie on October 03, 2017, 06:25:32 PM
plz confirm here if it works, include OS and whether QT or command line
qt works on my Win7 build, I'll try out building it on my nix rigs this evening (Ubuntu linkings almost never work in Debian  >:( ).


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: snowdropfore on October 04, 2017, 12:48:45 AM
Sweet, I was 1/2way there, but got side-tracked  :-\
QT wallet should be there too
only osx is missing
but i merged his changes into my source tree, so it could be that QT will build for all OS, not sure

plz confirm here if it works, include OS and whether QT or command line


wow. i can not believe it ,that is a good news for me ,so i can withdraw my chips form exchange , holding in my local wallet made me feel safe and i will still holding .thanks


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: snowdropfore on October 04, 2017, 01:00:24 AM
is something wrong with the QT wallet?? i open the wallet for almost 10 minutes ,still 0 actives ,i cann't sync with the network.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on October 04, 2017, 06:02:59 AM
is something wrong with the QT wallet?? i open the wallet for almost 10 minutes ,still 0 actives ,i cann't sync with the network.
addpeers


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Decker on October 04, 2017, 08:05:35 AM
is something wrong with the QT wallet?? i open the wallet for almost 10 minutes ,still 0 actives ,i cann't sync with the network.
Launch it with -addnode=5.9.253.195 or put addnode=5.9.253.195 string in chips.conf ... In archive with binaries exists start_wallet.sh (for Linux) and start_wallet.cmd (for Windows), that alredy included addnode parameter.

p.s. About MacOS - unforunatelly i haven't any Apple device in my environment, so, i can't build and test Qt Wallet for Mac. Working with MacOS on VMWare / VirtualBox - is not the right variant, for OSX developement better to have original Mac.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: snowdropfore on October 04, 2017, 08:30:52 AM
ok,done.so thank you a lot ,first ,find the wallet data ,create a new file name :chips.conf..and then open it ,copy addnode=5.9.253.195 and paste .save it .open the wallet again . done .the wallet is syncing. lol.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on October 04, 2017, 10:41:56 AM
is something wrong with the QT wallet?? i open the wallet for almost 10 minutes ,still 0 actives ,i cann't sync with the network.
Launch it with -addnode=5.9.253.195 or put addnode=5.9.253.195 string in chips.conf ... In archive with binaries exists start_wallet.sh (for Linux) and start_wallet.cmd (for Windows), that alredy included addnode parameter.

p.s. About MacOS - unforunatelly i haven't any Apple device in my environment, so, i can't build and test Qt Wallet for Mac. Working with MacOS on VMWare / VirtualBox - is not the right variant, for OSX developement better to have original Mac.
How many CHIPS (or KMD) do you need to be able to buy a MacOS device?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: CHMEX on October 04, 2017, 01:53:04 PM
is something wrong with the QT wallet?? i open the wallet for almost 10 minutes ,still 0 actives ,i cann't sync with the network.
Launch it with -addnode=5.9.253.195 or put addnode=5.9.253.195 string in chips.conf ... In archive with binaries exists start_wallet.sh (for Linux) and start_wallet.cmd (for Windows), that alredy included addnode parameter.

p.s. About MacOS - unforunatelly i haven't any Apple device in my environment, so, i can't build and test Qt Wallet for Mac. Working with MacOS on VMWare / VirtualBox - is not the right variant, for OSX developement better to have original Mac.

Thank you very much Decker amazing work (windows). I just imported by KMD private key and now I see the chips.

I just sent you some CHIPS for a Apple Device (it's not much but some others might CHIP in).



Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: komodomining on October 04, 2017, 01:53:22 PM
is something wrong with the QT wallet?? i open the wallet for almost 10 minutes ,still 0 actives ,i cann't sync with the network.
Launch it with -addnode=5.9.253.195 or put addnode=5.9.253.195 string in chips.conf ... In archive with binaries exists start_wallet.sh (for Linux) and start_wallet.cmd (for Windows), that alredy included addnode parameter.

p.s. About MacOS - unforunatelly i haven't any Apple device in my environment, so, i can't build and test Qt Wallet for Mac. Working with MacOS on VMWare / VirtualBox - is not the right variant, for OSX developement better to have original Mac.

hi Decker,
add this node in chips.conf addnode=chipspool.cloud
or  
-addnode=chipspool.cloud at launch


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: snowdropfore on October 04, 2017, 02:51:43 PM
i wanna say f*k about the coinexchange ,i withdraw the chips  many times ,but never got comfirmation emails ,when it came ,it is too late ,i have to withdraw again, all the same problem ..


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: kabi123 on October 04, 2017, 08:03:30 PM
i wanna say f*k about the coinexchange ,i withdraw the chips  many times ,but never got comfirmation emails ,when it came ,it is too late ,i have to withdraw again, all the same problem ..

man o man... use gmail or dontcry P

i never get late mails from coinexchange...


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Decker on October 05, 2017, 01:41:52 AM
i wanna say f*k about the coinexchange ,i withdraw the chips  many times ,but never got comfirmation emails ,when it came ,it is too late ,i have to withdraw again, all the same problem ..
I have an email on my own domain (means not on public email services, like @yahoo.com and other famous), there is no problem with confirmation emails from coinexchange.io. But some days ago i requested withdraw BTC from it and my withdrawal was in a "Pending ..." status more that 4 hours (i don't know, this is normal for that exchange or not, using it first time for trading Chips).


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on October 05, 2017, 05:17:31 PM
alpha release of osx QT wallet

https://github.com/DeckerSU/chips3/releases/tag/v0.14.99_decker_1_osx

use the dmg with "fix" in the name, please post your experiences. It syncs fine after I added peer.

can do it in chips.conf with: addnode=5.9.253.195

or via debug console: addnode "5.9.253.195" "add"


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: ComputerGenie on October 05, 2017, 05:37:26 PM
Well, until CoinExchange.io fixes their API to where the new Incapsula protections don't block API access, I guess I'm out of the CHIPS mining business (as my profit switcher will not switch to coins it can't get a price for).

 :'(


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: mon3yk1ng5 on October 05, 2017, 08:39:51 PM
Did some basic research, it turns out that most casinos make their money from slots machines,

1. I am guessing this will be possible with the micropayment feature in Chips, so is there going to be a slots platform, and will this be viable. how will this platform be presented will it be as a website with all the games in one place or a similar to the online wallet with the games embedded, or will it be a downloadable chips wallet with games as plugins.

2.Also, how will the speed of transaction be managed it will have to be lightning fast taking into account multiple games being played all at once so many chips changing hand, that will be multiple transactions per seconds.







Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: ComputerGenie on October 05, 2017, 09:25:33 PM
Did some basic research, it turns out that most casinos make their money from slots machines,
....
That's due more to sheer volume and dissociative psychology than anything else.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on October 06, 2017, 10:00:11 AM
Did some basic research, it turns out that most casinos make their money from slots machines,

1. I am guessing this will be possible with the micropayment feature in Chips, so is there going to be a slots platform, and will this be viable. how will this platform be presented will it be as a website with all the games in one place or a similar to the online wallet with the games embedded, or will it be a downloadable chips wallet with games as plugins.

2.Also, how will the speed of transaction be managed it will have to be lightning fast taking into account multiple games being played all at once so many chips changing hand, that will be multiple transactions per seconds.






1. certainly slots would be possible. Any game that needs a provable random shuffled "deck" of "cards" is possible. max number of cards in a deck is 255. But you can always use more than one deck.

details of presentation are way too early to decide now, we are at the phase of getting the core tech working solid. All the GUI presentation details, are just that, details.

2. why do you think I chose to use the Lightning Network? My benchmarks are showing a few tx per node is possible and that is without optimizations. seems fast enough as only 1 in 1000 tx needs to go to the blockchain


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: komodomining on October 06, 2017, 11:19:01 AM
http://chipspool.cloud open new world servers for low latency mining


USA
stratum+tcp://us.chipspool.cloud:2220Diff from 1 to 5000000 | Automatic Vardiff port
stratum+tcp://us.chipspool.cloud:3330 Diff from 65536 to 5000000 | For large Rigs
stratum+tcp://us.chipspool.cloud:4440 Diff from 8 to 32 | For small rigs
stratum+tcp://us.chipspool.cloud:5550 Diff from 32 to 512 | For medium rigs
stratum+tcp://us.chipspool.cloud:6660 Diff from 512 to 65536 | For BIG FARMS

ASIA
stratum+tcp://asia.chipspool.cloud:2220Diff from 1 to 5000000 | Automatic Vardiff port
stratum+tcp://asia.chipspool.cloud:3330 Diff from 65536 to 5000000 | For large Rigs
stratum+tcp://asia.chipspool.cloud:4440 Diff from 8 to 32 | For small rigs
stratum+tcp://asia.chipspool.cloud:5550 Diff from 32 to 512 | For medium rigs
stratum+tcp://asia.chipspool.cloud:6660 Diff from 512 to 65536 | For BIG FARMS

Enjoy


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: SHossainKMD on October 06, 2017, 01:41:02 PM
The CHIPS wallet made by @Decker is working for me. I mined CHIPS using my KMD address. Just had to import the private key to display the balance. I'm using chips.conf with the following node-list inside:

Code:
addnode=5.9.253.195
addnode=51.254.202.211:57777
addnode=138.197.162.223:57777
addnode=95.110.191.193:57777
addnode=173.212.207.226:57777
addnode=172.104.43.208:57777
addnode=163.172.4.66:57777
addnode=136.243.58.134:57777
addnode=5.9.253.197:57777
addnode=158.69.248.93:57777
addnode=69.30.231.42:57777
addnode=217.182.129.38:57777
addnode=149.202.49.218:57777
addnode=95.213.205.222:57777
addnode=chipspool.cloud

Hope this list helps someone.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Decker on October 06, 2017, 04:40:49 PM
Soon there will be a new release with some fixes:

- No need to add nodes in chips.conf or with -addnode, wallet will find "well-known" nodes automatically
- Fixed 153 Gb warning for blockchain downloading at startup (now data size needed for blockchain storage is more closer to real blockchain size)
- Fixed estimated time on intro screen (now when sync wallet first time you will see correct progress % and estimated time)
- Other fixes ...

Stay tuned.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on October 06, 2017, 06:14:05 PM
https://github.com/DeckerSU/chips3/releases/tag/v0.14.99_decker_2

updated binaries for all OS!

unix, osx, win32 and win64


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: ComputerGenie on October 06, 2017, 06:26:40 PM
Code:
computergenie@miningVM:~/Desktop/linux-x64$ ldd ./chips-qt
./chips-qt: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.21' not found (required by ./chips-qt)
No love for Debian 8 folks  :'(


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on October 06, 2017, 06:54:25 PM
Code:
computergenie@miningVM:~/Desktop/linux-x64$ ldd ./chips-qt
./chips-qt: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.21' not found (required by ./chips-qt)
No love for Debian 8 folks  :'(
on unix you should be able to build qt on debian


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Decker on October 06, 2017, 07:03:27 PM
Code:
computergenie@miningVM:~/Desktop/linux-x64$ ldd ./chips-qt
./chips-qt: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.21' not found (required by ./chips-qt)
No love for Debian 8 folks  :'(
For Linux - easiest and right way is building from sources:

Code:
git clone https://github.com/DeckerSU/chips3/ -b dev-decker
cd chips3
./autogen.sh
./configure
make

Also, you may need to install additional dependencies (https://github.com/DeckerSU/chips3/blob/dev-decker/doc/build-unix.md).


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: ComputerGenie on October 06, 2017, 07:05:58 PM
LOL I know how to build it. I just can't help myself from commenting on pre-compiles that are pretty much for Ubuntu (and similar) being listed as the generic (rather than specific).   :P


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: a007mr on October 06, 2017, 07:08:32 PM
Blockchain in the betting is really cool idea. It give more transparency and confidence.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: okie dokie on October 06, 2017, 09:22:27 PM
I like the binaries. Block chain downloaded in about a half hour if I remember.

Thanks decker! Good job.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: kabi123 on October 07, 2017, 11:13:40 PM
ok, coinexchange.io really su.k, 12 hour pending withdraws...hm, maybe they donthave enough BTC in hot wallet or i dontknow, but this really su.k
first time that i get this problem.... never happened on cryptopia or nova hmmmmm :-(


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: DigeNarrator on October 07, 2017, 11:39:52 PM
ok, coinexchange.io really su.k, 12 hour pending withdraws...hm, maybe they donthave enough BTC in hot wallet or i dontknow, but this really su.k
first time that i get this problem.... never happened on cryptopia or nova hmmmmm :-(

i did not have issues with withdraws from coinexchange


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: kabi123 on October 08, 2017, 09:45:14 AM
and from now... only 12.5 chips per block....hm ugly surprise hehe P


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: kurbeks on October 08, 2017, 12:35:23 PM
Should mention in OP msg that halving is every 210k blocks.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: ComputerGenie on October 08, 2017, 12:38:42 PM
and from now... only 12.5 chips per block....hm ugly surprise hehe P
Not sure how halvings are a "surprise".



Should mention in OP msg that halving is every 210k blocks.
You mean like:
Quote
...fork of BTC 0.14...


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: kurbeks on October 08, 2017, 01:13:27 PM
Too hard for peasants to understand :D Can't know halving of every coin out there.


Title: chipsd on Debian 9 (Stretch)
Post by: boacw on October 08, 2017, 02:05:58 PM
I compiled chipsd on Debian 9 and, because I looked for this before and didn't find, I'm writing this message.
Is there a wiki I can contribute to to write the steps I followed?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: ComputerGenie on October 08, 2017, 02:17:50 PM
Too hard for peasants to understand :D Can't know halving of every coin out there.
smfh  ::)


Title: Re: chipsd on Debian 9 (Stretch)
Post by: jl777B on October 08, 2017, 03:52:58 PM
I compiled chipsd on Debian 9 and, because I looked for this before and didn't find, I'm writing this message.
Is there a wiki I can contribute to to write the steps I followed?
that's great!

for now, just post here so we have the info for when we make wiki


Title: Re: chipsd on Debian 9 (Stretch)
Post by: boacw on October 08, 2017, 04:52:28 PM
I compiled chipsd on Debian 9 and, because I looked for this before and didn't find, I'm writing this message.
Is there a wiki I can contribute to to write the steps I followed?
that's great!
for now, just post here so we have the info for when we make wiki

These steps only build the headless version (chips-cli, chipsd...), not QT version!
I didn't verified what dependency it needs to. If you want to build QT version, don't put the "--with-gui=no" parameter at the end of these steps.

  • sudo apt-get install libboost-system-dev libboost-filesystem-dev libboost-chrono-dev libboost-program-options-dev libboost-test-dev libboost-thread-dev
  • git clone https://github.com/jl777/chips3
  • cd chips3
Install Berkeley DB 4.8 from source:
  • BITCOIN_ROOT=$(pwd)
  • BDB_PREFIX="${BITCOIN_ROOT}/db4"
  • mkdir -p $BDB_PREFIX
  • wget 'http://download.oracle.com/berkeley-db/db-4.8.30.NC.tar.gz'
  • echo '12edc0df75bf9abd7f82f821795bcee50f42cb2e5f76a6a281b85732798364ef  db-4.8.30.NC.tar.gz' | sha256sum -c
    (it should display it succeeded)
  • tar -xzvf db-4.8.30.NC.tar.gz
  • cd db-4.8.30.NC/build_unix/
  • ../dist/configure --enable-cxx --disable-shared --with-pic --prefix=$BDB_PREFIX
  • make install
Continue with chips:
  • cd $BITCOIN_ROOT
  • ./autogen.sh
  • ./configure LDFLAGS="-L${BDB_PREFIX}/lib/" CPPFLAGS="-I${BDB_PREFIX}/include/" --with-gui=no
  • make
  • ./chipsd -addnode=5.9.253.195


Title: Re: chipsd on Debian 9 (Stretch)
Post by: jl777B on October 08, 2017, 06:08:10 PM
I compiled chipsd on Debian 9 and, because I looked for this before and didn't find, I'm writing this message.
Is there a wiki I can contribute to to write the steps I followed?
that's great!
for now, just post here so we have the info for when we make wiki

These steps only build the headless version (chips-cli, chipsd...), not QT version!
I didn't verified what dependency it needs to. If you want to build QT version, don't put the "--with-gui=no" parameter at the end of these steps.

  • sudo apt-get install libboost-system-dev libboost-filesystem-dev libboost-chrono-dev libboost-program-options-dev libboost-test-dev libboost-thread-dev
  • git clone https://github.com/jl777/chips3
  • cd chips3
Install Berkeley DB 4.8 from source:
  • BITCOIN_ROOT=$(pwd)
  • BDB_PREFIX="${BITCOIN_ROOT}/db4"
  • mkdir -p $BDB_PREFIX
  • wget 'http://download.oracle.com/berkeley-db/db-4.8.30.NC.tar.gz'
  • echo '12edc0df75bf9abd7f82f821795bcee50f42cb2e5f76a6a281b85732798364ef  db-4.8.30.NC.tar.gz' | sha256sum -c
    (it should display it succeeded)
  • tar -xzvf db-4.8.30.NC.tar.gz
  • cd db-4.8.30.NC/build_unix/
  • ../dist/configure --enable-cxx --disable-shared --with-pic --prefix=$BDB_PREFIX
  • make install
Continue with chips:
  • cd $BITCOIN_ROOT
  • ./autogen.sh
  • ./configure LDFLAGS="-L${BDB_PREFIX}/lib/" CPPFLAGS="-I${BDB_PREFIX}/include/" --with-gui=no
  • make
  • ./chipsd -addnode=5.9.253.195
thank you! PM me your CHIPS address and I will send you a 777 CHIPS tip


Title: Re: chipsd on Debian 9 (Stretch)
Post by: boacw on October 08, 2017, 06:43:30 PM
I compiled chipsd on Debian 9 and, because I looked for this before and didn't find, I'm writing this message.
Is there a wiki I can contribute to to write the steps I followed?
that's great!
for now, just post here so we have the info for when we make wiki

These steps only build the headless version (chips-cli, chipsd...), not QT version!
I didn't verified what dependency it needs to. If you want to build QT version, don't put the "--with-gui=no" parameter at the end of these steps.

  • sudo apt-get install libboost-system-dev libboost-filesystem-dev libboost-chrono-dev libboost-program-options-dev libboost-test-dev libboost-thread-dev
  • git clone https://github.com/jl777/chips3
  • cd chips3
Install Berkeley DB 4.8 from source:
  • BITCOIN_ROOT=$(pwd)
  • BDB_PREFIX="${BITCOIN_ROOT}/db4"
  • mkdir -p $BDB_PREFIX
  • wget 'http://download.oracle.com/berkeley-db/db-4.8.30.NC.tar.gz'
  • echo '12edc0df75bf9abd7f82f821795bcee50f42cb2e5f76a6a281b85732798364ef  db-4.8.30.NC.tar.gz' | sha256sum -c
    (it should display it succeeded)
  • tar -xzvf db-4.8.30.NC.tar.gz
  • cd db-4.8.30.NC/build_unix/
  • ../dist/configure --enable-cxx --disable-shared --with-pic --prefix=$BDB_PREFIX
  • make install
Continue with chips:
  • cd $BITCOIN_ROOT
  • ./autogen.sh
  • ./configure LDFLAGS="-L${BDB_PREFIX}/lib/" CPPFLAGS="-I${BDB_PREFIX}/include/" --with-gui=no
  • make
  • ./chipsd -addnode=5.9.253.195
I try to compile it on Debian 8 (Jessie) to, but I get an error:
Code:
CXX      leveldb/port/leveldb_libleveldb_a-port_posix.o
leveldb/port/port_posix.cc: In function ‘bool leveldb::port::HasAcceleratedCRC32C()’:
leveldb/port/port_posix.cc:60:15: warning: ‘ecx’ may be used uninitialized in this function [-Wmaybe-uninitialized]
   return (ecx & (1 << 20)) != 0;
               ^
  AR       leveldb/libleveldb.a
  CXX      leveldb/port/leveldb_libleveldb_sse42_a-port_posix_sse.o
  AR       leveldb/libleveldb_sse42.a
  CXX      leveldb/helpers/memenv/leveldb_libmemenv_a-memenv.o
  AR       leveldb/libmemenv.a
  CXXLD    chipsd
libbitcoin_util.a(libbitcoin_util_a-util.o): In function `GetNumCores()':
/home/xxxxx/chips3/src/util.cpp:883: undefined reference to `boost::thread::physical_concurrency()'
libbitcoin_util.a(libbitcoin_util_a-utiltime.o): In function `sleep':
/usr/local/include/boost/thread/pthread/thread_data.hpp:278: undefined reference to `boost::this_thread::hidden::sleep_until(timespec const&)'
libbitcoin_wallet.a(libbitcoin_wallet_a-db.o): In function `copy_file':
/usr/local/include/boost/filesystem/operations.hpp:539: undefined reference to `boost::filesystem::detail::copy_file(boost::filesystem::path const&, boost::filesystem::path const&, boost::filesystem::detail::copy_option, boost::system::error_code*)'
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
Makefile:3601: recipe for target 'chipsd' failed
make[2]: *** [chipsd] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/xxxxx/chips3/src'
Makefile:9242: recipe for target 'all-recursive' failed
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/xxxxx/chips3/src'
Makefile:728: recipe for target 'all-recursive' failed
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1


Title: Re: chipsd on Debian 9 (Stretch)
Post by: ComputerGenie on October 08, 2017, 08:31:25 PM
...
I try to compile it on Debian 8 (Jessie) to, but I get an error:
...
For 8 and earlier, follow the directions in YourPath/chips3/doc/build-unix.md
 ;) ;)


Title: Re: chipsd on Debian 9 (Stretch)
Post by: Metaphilibert on October 09, 2017, 08:15:05 AM
...
Install Berkeley DB 4.8 from source:
  • BITCOIN_ROOT=$(pwd)
  • BDB_PREFIX="${BITCOIN_ROOT}/db4"
  • mkdir -p $BDB_PREFIX
  • wget 'http://download.oracle.com/berkeley-db/db-4.8.30.NC.tar.gz'
  • echo '12edc0df75bf9abd7f82f821795bcee50f42cb2e5f76a6a281b85732798364ef  db-4.8.30.NC.tar.gz' | sha256sum -c
    (it should display it succeeded)
  • tar -xzvf db-4.8.30.NC.tar.gz
  • cd db-4.8.30.NC/build_unix/
  • ../dist/configure --enable-cxx --disable-shared --with-pic --prefix=$BDB_PREFIX
  • make install
...

if you don't want to bother with the berkeley db 4.8 installation, you can also ignore it by using
./configure --with-incompatible-bdb
when building chipsd

Berkeley DB version only matters if you want to have cross client wallet compatible
 (a wallet created with a client that was build on 4.8 may not be usable with a client that was build on another version of bdb)

So if you extracted your privkeys and not planning to copy the wallet.dat for use with another client, you can ignore the dbd version 4.8 and use the version currently installed on your system


Title: Re: chipsd on Debian 9 (Stretch)
Post by: boacw on October 09, 2017, 06:21:35 PM
...
Install Berkeley DB 4.8 from source:
  • BITCOIN_ROOT=$(pwd)
  • BDB_PREFIX="${BITCOIN_ROOT}/db4"
  • mkdir -p $BDB_PREFIX
  • wget 'http://download.oracle.com/berkeley-db/db-4.8.30.NC.tar.gz'
  • echo '12edc0df75bf9abd7f82f821795bcee50f42cb2e5f76a6a281b85732798364ef  db-4.8.30.NC.tar.gz' | sha256sum -c
    (it should display it succeeded)
  • tar -xzvf db-4.8.30.NC.tar.gz
  • cd db-4.8.30.NC/build_unix/
  • ../dist/configure --enable-cxx --disable-shared --with-pic --prefix=$BDB_PREFIX
  • make install
...

if you don't want to bother with the berkeley db 4.8 installation, you can also ignore it by using
./configure --with-incompatible-bdb
when building chipsd

Berkeley DB version only matters if you want to have cross client wallet compatible
 (a wallet created with a client that was build on 4.8 may not be usable with a client that was build on another version of bdb)

So if you extracted your privkeys and not planning to copy the wallet.dat for use with another client, you can ignore the dbd version 4.8 and use the version currently installed on your system

Thanks for this precision.
I prefer to be able to use my wallet.dat with any computer (vps, nas, home computer), and therefore, I try to always compile the same way.


Title: Re: chipsd on Debian 9 (Stretch)
Post by: boacw on October 09, 2017, 06:24:48 PM
...
I try to compile it on Debian 8 (Jessie) to, but I get an error:
...
For 8 and earlier, follow the directions in YourPath/chips3/doc/build-unix.md
 ;) ;)

That's what I used to compile on Debian 9, and to write this memo.
Perhaps I missed something, but after searching on the web, it seems it's a boost version problem, and as I do not want to install too much libs from elsewhere than the repos, I think I will not be able to compile it on my Debian 8 :-(


Title: Re: chipsd on Debian 9 (Stretch)
Post by: ComputerGenie on October 09, 2017, 06:34:49 PM
...I think I will not be able to compile it on my Debian 8 :-(
I'll build a clean vm and list out the steps ...


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: ComputerGenie on October 09, 2017, 07:54:49 PM
Environment:
Debian 8.7
Xfce desktop
"standard system utilities"
as root user for simplicity
edit: /etc/apt/sources.list edited to remove dvd as source

Code:
mousepad /etc/apt/sources.list
apt-get update
apt-get install git
git clone https://github.com/jl777/chips3.git

apt-get install build-essential libtool autotools-dev automake pkg-config libssl-dev libevent-dev bsdmainutils -y
apt-get install libboost-system-dev libboost-filesystem-dev libboost-chrono-dev libboost-program-options-dev libboost-test-dev libboost-thread-dev libboost-all-dev -y

cd chips3

CHIPS_ROOT=$(pwd)
BDB_PREFIX="${CHIPS_ROOT}/db4"
mkdir -p $BDB_PREFIX

apt-get install wget

wget 'http://download.oracle.com/berkeley-db/db-4.8.30.NC.tar.gz'
echo '12edc0df75bf9abd7f82f821795bcee50f42cb2e5f76a6a281b85732798364ef  db-4.8.30.NC.tar.gz' | sha256sum -c
tar -xzvf db-4.8.30.NC.tar.gz
cd db-4.8.30.NC/build_unix/
../dist/configure --enable-cxx --disable-shared --with-pic --prefix=$BDB_PREFIX
make install

cd $CHIPS_ROOT

./autogen.sh
./configure LDFLAGS="-L${BDB_PREFIX}/lib/" CPPFLAGS="-I${BDB_PREFIX}/include/" --without-gui --without-miniupnpc

make check

strip src/chipsd
strip src/chips-cli
strip src/chips-tx
make install
chipsd
Works like a dream :D


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Decker on October 09, 2017, 10:12:11 PM
Simple Android Widget for CHIPS

Screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/ow4E6MU.png
Sources: https://github.com/DeckerSU/android_chips_widget
Release APK: https://github.com/DeckerSU/android_chips_widget/releases/tag/v1.0-debug

This is simple widget for Android that can display exchange rate CHIPS/BTC on your Desktop. Current rate is taken from API of coinmarketcap.com. Installation is simple, just install the apk, tap on your desktop, choose Widgets in menu, find Chips Widget in the list and drag it to the free place of your Android Desktop. Currently widget can display only CHIPS/BTC rate, there is no USD/EUR rate. But it's open-source, everyone can fork this project and do any changes. I haven't time to develope it and i'm a not a professional Android developer, but would be nice if someone will continue work on this. For example, good to add some Preference screen with customization settings, like a font size or / and font color.

Hope it will be useful!


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: kurbeks on October 11, 2017, 09:36:46 AM
Looks like Pondsea is back


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: BitcoinOnFire on October 11, 2017, 05:18:40 PM
Is the circulatin supply for chips true? 16 mln? almost hit max cap 21 mln ?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on October 11, 2017, 05:56:38 PM
Is the circulatin supply for chips true? 16 mln? almost hit max cap 21 mln ?
yes, 10 second blocks and PH hashrate mining, it goes fast
the plan is to switch to dPoW when we get around the 20 mil coins mark as at that point the hashrate likely wont be anywhere as high as now


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: PondSea on October 11, 2017, 06:30:24 PM
Looks like Pondsea is back

Sorry forgot to post in here. There was a issue with the hosting which seems to have been fixed. I will check to see if there was any payouts outstanding and send them out to the people that were mining on it before it went down.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: kabi123 on October 13, 2017, 02:33:46 AM
hi, can chipspool.cloud get some high diff 131070 or more port?
ty


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: CHMEX on October 14, 2017, 06:13:04 AM
hi, can chipspool.cloud get some high diff 131070 or more port?
ty

check the Slack (Request your invite at http://slackinvite.supernet.org )

I believe you will get a faster answer there.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Metaphilibert on October 14, 2017, 08:53:59 AM
I've enabled label support for http://chips1.explorer.supernet.org/
If you want to see a label for your address on the explorer, DM me.

to generate your signature:
Code:
chips-cli signmessagewithprivkey "YourPrivateKey" "YourAddress"
DM me your address, your signature and the label you want to see displayed.
For now, only the SuperNET address is labelled, with a link to the SuperNET NAV.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: komodomining on October 16, 2017, 07:21:46 AM
hi, can chipspool.cloud get some high diff 131070 or more port?
ty

Done port 2222 - DEDICATED NICEHASH with minimal diff 262144
Payments update every 5 minutes and not 10 minutes
Regards


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Funnymyth on October 17, 2017, 04:00:25 AM
is there going to be a masternode option for this coin?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: PondSea on October 17, 2017, 05:02:20 AM
is there going to be a masternode option for this coin?

no


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on October 30, 2017, 07:10:36 PM
now barterDEX is feature complete and I even wrote a revised whitepaper, I have some time here and there for CHIPS.

The next step is to start notarizing to CHIPS, this is because mining hashrate is dropping as the blockreward is dropping and recent market price has been a bit weak, making the hashrate still decent but as we go down the blockrewards curve, it is clear that we will need to secure CHIPS with something stronger than the intrinsic hashrate

conveniently, there is dPoW that I happened to have created and so I will be adding dPoW security into CHIPS and we will start notarizing to the CHIPS chain.

Additonally at block 777,777 CHIPS will go to an on-demand block generation, so no more empty blocks with just the mining. Until there is a transaction to mine, the miners will be idle. it could be that CPU mining might make a comeback.

We are in the process of reviewing the CHIPS whitepaper, actually it turned into a mathematical paper we hope to submit to some major journals/conferences, but still waiting for the professor to give us feedbacks.

Getting the CHIPS chain to a long term securable state is the next milestone.

After that, we get the Lightning Network and decentralized shuffling and even some simple games to play.

Oh, the dev branch of chips3 is now rebased to 0.15 bitcoin source and I will be adding the dPoW to that.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: msmde on October 30, 2017, 07:54:41 PM
now barterDEX is feature complete and I even wrote a revised whitepaper, I have some time here and there for CHIPS.

The next step is to start notarizing to CHIPS, this is because mining hashrate is dropping as the blockreward is dropping and recent market price has been a bit weak, making the hashrate still decent but as we go down the blockrewards curve, it is clear that we will need to secure CHIPS with something stronger than the intrinsic hashrate

conveniently, there is dPoW that I happened to have created and so I will be adding dPoW security into CHIPS and we will start notarizing to the CHIPS chain.

Additonally at block 777,777 CHIPS will go to an on-demand block generation, so no more empty blocks with just the mining. Until there is a transaction to mine, the miners will be idle. it could be that CPU mining might make a comeback.

We are in the process of reviewing the CHIPS whitepaper, actually it turned into a mathematical paper we hope to submit to some major journals/conferences, but still waiting for the professor to give us feedbacks.

Getting the CHIPS chain to a long term securable state is the next milestone.

After that, we get the Lightning Network and decentralized shuffling and even some simple games to play.

Oh, the dev branch of chips3 is now rebased to 0.15 bitcoin source and I will be adding the dPoW to that.


how will the transition to dpow affect current miners, if at all?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on October 30, 2017, 08:14:52 PM
now barterDEX is feature complete and I even wrote a revised whitepaper, I have some time here and there for CHIPS.

The next step is to start notarizing to CHIPS, this is because mining hashrate is dropping as the blockreward is dropping and recent market price has been a bit weak, making the hashrate still decent but as we go down the blockrewards curve, it is clear that we will need to secure CHIPS with something stronger than the intrinsic hashrate

conveniently, there is dPoW that I happened to have created and so I will be adding dPoW security into CHIPS and we will start notarizing to the CHIPS chain.

Additonally at block 777,777 CHIPS will go to an on-demand block generation, so no more empty blocks with just the mining. Until there is a transaction to mine, the miners will be idle. it could be that CPU mining might make a comeback.

We are in the process of reviewing the CHIPS whitepaper, actually it turned into a mathematical paper we hope to submit to some major journals/conferences, but still waiting for the professor to give us feedbacks.

Getting the CHIPS chain to a long term securable state is the next milestone.

After that, we get the Lightning Network and decentralized shuffling and even some simple games to play.

Oh, the dev branch of chips3 is now rebased to 0.15 bitcoin source and I will be adding the dPoW to that.


how will the transition to dpow affect current miners, if at all?
I think in about 200,000 blocks, the mining wont be very frequently needed. Only when there is a real transaction will a new block be accepted

in any case, the block reward will have shrunk to around 2 CHIPS per block, so doubtful it will be profitable for many miners.

I am announcing this well ahead of time so current miners can prepare for transition



Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: PaulScavenger on October 31, 2017, 08:06:12 PM
CPU mining sounds attractive because people can mine coins as they gamble.  :)


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: PaulScavenger on October 31, 2017, 08:58:27 PM
"In 2016, Statista has predicted the size of the online gambling market would have a volume of $45.86 billion growing to $56.05 billion by 2018.[2]"

Looks like there's a pretty good market to pull from, maybe CHIPS could even be preferable because of fairness?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on October 31, 2017, 10:21:25 PM
"In 2016, Statista has predicted the size of the online gambling market would have a volume of $45.86 billion growing to $56.05 billion by 2018.[2]"

Looks like there's a pretty good market to pull from, maybe CHIPS could even be preferable because of fairness?
fairness and privacy, a good combination


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: ivan376 on November 01, 2017, 07:02:08 AM
Any working pooker website?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on November 01, 2017, 07:57:05 AM
Any working pooker website?
next year

will be localhost poker "servers"


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: PaulScavenger on November 02, 2017, 04:49:39 AM
"In 2016, Statista has predicted the size of the online gambling market would have a volume of $45.86 billion growing to $56.05 billion by 2018.[2]"

Looks like there's a pretty good market to pull from, maybe CHIPS could even be preferable because of fairness?
fairness and privacy, a good combination

Oh yeah, and to add to this, censorship resistance.

I'm sure people would feel much more secure knowing their favorite game won't disappear overnight like many online casinos do.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: PaulScavenger on November 02, 2017, 08:12:51 AM
Would it be viable to have a "one-click" button to start CPU mining on whatever gambling app CHIPS will be using?

The Vericoin dev team has this feature for their Verium currency, i believe.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on November 02, 2017, 09:00:44 AM
Would it be viable to have a "one-click" button to start CPU mining on whatever gambling app CHIPS will be using?

The Vericoin dev team has this feature for their Verium currency, i believe.
we are getting ahead of things, first step is to get the core protocols solid


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: holly.ball8 on November 02, 2017, 09:10:11 AM
Any working pooker website?
next year

will be localhost poker "servers"
So we have to wait now.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: PaulScavenger on November 04, 2017, 05:31:45 PM
Any working pooker website?
next year

will be localhost poker "servers"
So we have to wait now.

This is a good thing. It means you can gather up cheap coins when people get impatient and/or need the money.



Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: ilsshort on November 08, 2017, 03:28:18 AM
Hello, could you provide us with more detailed info, it look like there are still lack of information on the first post, many content that should be present still not available at the moment. Please complete all the details. Thank you.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Canananada on November 08, 2017, 04:20:17 AM
Let us take the opportunity to invest in this great project. In addition to a promising and necessary branch in the new times, the Team is committed to take us very far with


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Ragarg on November 12, 2017, 02:54:35 PM
Hello CHIPS team,

I'm happy to announce that your coin has been listed to ItalYiiMP 2.0 for mining,

to get paid in CHIPS just set c=CHIPS as password in your configuration.

As an additional service, the explorer is available at the address http://italyiimp.com/explorer

visit http://italyiimp.com.

best regards.

Ragarg.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: PaulScavenger on November 18, 2017, 11:36:42 AM
Anyone willing to sell some chips? send me a PM


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: okie dokie on November 21, 2017, 09:46:22 PM
Quote
jl777 Nov 21, 2017 03:40
Snip...
with CHIPS, each table sets up a small LN network for payments within the table

I found this interesting.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Remav1c on November 22, 2017, 11:39:33 AM

Oh, there wont be any ICO for CHIPS. Not looking for any funding, we have plenty of that.


How did the ICO for CHIPS go? :P


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on November 22, 2017, 01:33:17 PM

Oh, there wont be any ICO for CHIPS. Not looking for any funding, we have plenty of that.


How did the ICO for CHIPS go? :P
CHIPS is old school purely mined coin, no premine, no dev fund, no ICO. just mining from block 1


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Davecashindat on November 23, 2017, 10:03:26 AM
How is the project progressing? Is this the place to monitor? I feel CHIPS has a great future. The crypto space need CHIPS


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on November 23, 2017, 11:21:57 AM
How is the project progressing? Is this the place to monitor? I feel CHIPS has a great future. The crypto space need CHIPS
progress is being made, but we are not in marketing mode
here is the place to follow, or #chips in SuperNET slack


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: okie dokie on November 24, 2017, 11:30:30 PM
Could chips run a huntercoin style mmo game? Or even modded out atari games?

It was really fun during the first few days when you could actually move around nice and fast due to speedy blocks. Huntercoin movements and actions are encoded into every block and when blocks became a minute, it took a day just to walk to the center. I believe there was a capture the flag element as well as the game randomly placed coins for users to grab and attempt to get back to homebase.

Im sure if you deposited chips to play and buy upgrades a winner take the pot or coins distributed minus fees might work.

play video games to win cash prizes,

get to x level on pacman win $50

Win $1000 tetris tournament

$100 missle commander payouts.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on November 25, 2017, 07:32:56 AM
Could chips run a huntercoin style mmo game? Or even modded out atari games?

It was really fun during the first few days when you could actually move around nice and fast due to speedy blocks. Huntercoin movements and actions are encoded into every block and when blocks became a minute, it took a day just to walk to the center. I believe there was a capture the flag element as well as the game randomly placed coins for users to grab and attempt to get back to homebase.

Im sure if you deposited chips to play and buy upgrades a winner take the pot or coins distributed minus fees might work.

play video games to win cash prizes,

get to x level on pacman win $50

Win $1000 tetris tournament

$100 missle commander payouts.
theoretically any game that can be reduced to a set of events with a deterministic game evaluation can be done.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: okie dokie on November 26, 2017, 01:30:07 AM
Could chips run a huntercoin style mmo game? Or even modded out atari games?

It was really fun during the first few days when you could actually move around nice and fast due to speedy blocks. Huntercoin movements and actions are encoded into every block and when blocks became a minute, it took a day just to walk to the center. I believe there was a capture the flag element as well as the game randomly placed coins for users to grab and attempt to get back to homebase.

Im sure if you deposited chips to play and buy upgrades a winner take the pot or coins distributed minus fees might work.

play video games to win cash prizes,

get to x level on pacman win $50

Win $1000 tetris tournament

$100 missle commander payouts.
theoretically any game that can be reduced to a set of events with a deterministic game evaluation can be done.

Im sure what ever you come up with will be great. Of the quote where you mentioned that each table was setting up a lightning network, that is what got me thinking about the mmo aspect that really needs a much faster environment. And of course adding game moves and action per block causes massive bloat, maybe something that is also ideal for the lightning network with pruning.

How many degrees of freedom are being built into chips? Ie : Are we just going to see basic casino games or will other styles of games be built into the architecture?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on November 26, 2017, 06:44:40 AM
Could chips run a huntercoin style mmo game? Or even modded out atari games?

It was really fun during the first few days when you could actually move around nice and fast due to speedy blocks. Huntercoin movements and actions are encoded into every block and when blocks became a minute, it took a day just to walk to the center. I believe there was a capture the flag element as well as the game randomly placed coins for users to grab and attempt to get back to homebase.

Im sure if you deposited chips to play and buy upgrades a winner take the pot or coins distributed minus fees might work.

play video games to win cash prizes,

get to x level on pacman win $50

Win $1000 tetris tournament

$100 missle commander payouts.
theoretically any game that can be reduced to a set of events with a deterministic game evaluation can be done.

Im sure what ever you come up with will be great. Of the quote where you mentioned that each table was setting up a lightning network, that is what got me thinking about the mmo aspect that really needs a much faster environment. And of course adding game moves and action per block causes massive bloat, maybe something that is also ideal for the lightning network with pruning.

How many degrees of freedom are being built into chips? Ie : Are we just going to see basic casino games or will other styles of games be built into the architecture?
theoretically any game that can be reduced to a set of events with a deterministic game evaluation can be done.

please identify a game that cannot be reduced to a set of events with a deterministic game evaluation.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: okie dokie on November 26, 2017, 04:04:39 PM
Quote
theoretically any game that can be reduced to a set of events with a deterministic game evaluation can be done.
please identify a game that cannot be reduced to a set of events with a deterministic game evaluation.

Ok, these are big words I don't often use so Im going to have to rely on some duckduckgo searching. Maybe you could rephrase what exactly you mean by deterministic game evaluation?


https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedesign/comments/2mrqum/deterministic_vs_non_deterministic_games/
Quote
A deterministic game will have a starting state, and for every sequence of input received the ending state will always be the same for that given starting state and the same sequence of input. An example would be, play a game of chess till the end, then play a second game of chess with the exact same moves by both players and the outcome (white wins, black wins, or stale-mate) will be the same. Going further, play a third game but set the board up 10 moves into the first game, then play all the remaining moves from that game you'll arrive at the same outcome.

I heard of a video game, don't remember the name, that the designer made deterministic to the point where his bug-report/crash log was just the series of input from the player, so he could recreate the bug/crash exactly how the player did.

In contrast to chess a game of pool or billiards could be considered non-deteministic.

http://www.whatgamesare.com/determinism.html

Quote
Determinism
A game is deterministic if the resolution of player actions leads to completely predictable outcomes. It is indeterministic to one degree or another if actions lead to potentially chaotic outcomes. Chess is an example of a determinist game: the rules allow for no variation of outcome and there are no physical factors involved. Football, on the other hand, is an indeterminist game: players cannot reliably kick the ball exactly the same way each time, and the small variations of that action lead to chaotic outcomes.

A sense of indeterminism, or luck, often makes a game exciting. Players like to sense that there is always a chance that they will win, that the right card will land or a ball will make a lucky bounce. However too much indeterminism (such as in Snakes and Ladders) removes all sense of agency from the game, and that's rarely fun.

Determinism in Programming
Programmers mean something slightly different when discussing deteminism. A game engine like Quake may well be determinist in terms of replicating the results of player action faithfully, but to the player it may feel indeterminist because their execution of that action may be slightly wrong. So although the game is not random, to player it feels a little like it is.

To a programmer, the question of determinism is all about how the game engine behaves. To the game designer, it is about how it is perceived to behave.




Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on November 26, 2017, 04:44:28 PM
Quote
theoretically any game that can be reduced to a set of events with a deterministic game evaluation can be done.
please identify a game that cannot be reduced to a set of events with a deterministic game evaluation.

Ok, these are big words I don't often use so Im going to have to rely on some duckduckgo searching. Maybe you could rephrase what exactly you mean by deterministic game evaluation?


https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedesign/comments/2mrqum/deterministic_vs_non_deterministic_games/
Quote
A deterministic game will have a starting state, and for every sequence of input received the ending state will always be the same for that given starting state and the same sequence of input. An example would be, play a game of chess till the end, then play a second game of chess with the exact same moves by both players and the outcome (white wins, black wins, or stale-mate) will be the same. Going further, play a third game but set the board up 10 moves into the first game, then play all the remaining moves from that game you'll arrive at the same outcome.

I heard of a video game, don't remember the name, that the designer made deterministic to the point where his bug-report/crash log was just the series of input from the player, so he could recreate the bug/crash exactly how the player did.

In contrast to chess a game of pool or billiards could be considered non-deteministic.

http://www.whatgamesare.com/determinism.html

Quote
Determinism
A game is deterministic if the resolution of player actions leads to completely predictable outcomes. It is indeterministic to one degree or another if actions lead to potentially chaotic outcomes. Chess is an example of a determinist game: the rules allow for no variation of outcome and there are no physical factors involved. Football, on the other hand, is an indeterminist game: players cannot reliably kick the ball exactly the same way each time, and the small variations of that action lead to chaotic outcomes.

A sense of indeterminism, or luck, often makes a game exciting. Players like to sense that there is always a chance that they will win, that the right card will land or a ball will make a lucky bounce. However too much indeterminism (such as in Snakes and Ladders) removes all sense of agency from the game, and that's rarely fun.

Determinism in Programming
Programmers mean something slightly different when discussing deteminism. A game engine like Quake may well be determinist in terms of replicating the results of player action faithfully, but to the player it may feel indeterminist because their execution of that action may be slightly wrong. So although the game is not random, to player it feels a little like it is.

To a programmer, the question of determinism is all about how the game engine behaves. To the game designer, it is about how it is perceived to behave.



I just mean that given the same set of game events (who got what cards type of thing) that all nodes will decide the same outcome, ie. bob wins


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: PaulScavenger on November 28, 2017, 01:33:38 PM
I think what he means is;

Alice and Bob receive a destination.

Alice and Bob must both reach that destination utilizing the same path.

If there is a random element(ie they are given different paths), then it will not work.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on November 28, 2017, 02:10:39 PM
I think what he means is;

Alice and Bob receive a destination.

Alice and Bob must both reach that destination utilizing the same path.

If there is a random element(ie they walk different paths), then it will not work.
does four deuces win against a straight flush?
does three of a kind beat two pairs

like that, as long as each node can determine who has which cards from the events and has a deterministic way of determining the winner, theoretically it can be done.

however, if the game has something like: "in the event of a tie, flip a coin", then this tie break coin flip needs to be encoded in the group shuffled random numbers and it cannot be determined on a node by node basis


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: okie dokie on November 28, 2017, 08:11:21 PM
Quote
jl777 Nov 23, 2017 08:47
it means that even though the game itself might be complex, since there wont be a need to implement a game engine, it turns out to be much easier
to support blockchain enforcing any specific game, all nodes will need to be able to evaluate the outcome of all the moves
so the research for each game should also find the best open source project that implements that game, if the gameplay is non-trivial

I guess Im just interested to find out if it is in the plans to include other games besides traditional casino games. And by include other games, I mean not the game engine, but the blockchain enforcing part.

To bring it back to huntercoin, they forked namecoin, replaced the url part with game state moves, and modded the wallet to allow gameplay, also a third partydev created another more advanced gameplay wallet.

So Im hoping that this blockchain enforcing part or what ever its called is foreward thinking to be robust enough that games from mmo to say smash brothers (not just casino) can have their game state run on these chips lightning networks.


[chips also excites me because gambling was one of Satoshi's original uses for bitcoin, so I see this as inline with the original vision]


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on November 28, 2017, 09:34:23 PM
Quote
jl777 Nov 23, 2017 08:47
it means that even though the game itself might be complex, since there wont be a need to implement a game engine, it turns out to be much easier
to support blockchain enforcing any specific game, all nodes will need to be able to evaluate the outcome of all the moves
so the research for each game should also find the best open source project that implements that game, if the gameplay is non-trivial

I guess Im just interested to find out if it is in the plans to include other games besides traditional casino games. And by include other games, I mean not the game engine, but the blockchain enforcing part.

To bring it back to huntercoin, they forked namecoin, replaced the url part with game state moves, and modded the wallet to allow gameplay, also a third partydev created another more advanced gameplay wallet.

So Im hoping that this blockchain enforcing part or what ever its called is foreward thinking to be robust enough that games from mmo to say smash brothers (not just casino) can have their game state run on these chips lightning networks.


[chips also excites me because gambling was one of Satoshi's original uses for bitcoin, so I see this as inline with the original vision]
I intend to apply my usual level of forward thinkingness for CHIPS


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Mynameischair on December 04, 2017, 02:55:46 AM
i apologize for the newb question but does this coin have a wallet. I  hate the idea of leaving it on the exchange.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on December 04, 2017, 05:54:17 AM
i apologize for the newb question but does this coin have a wallet. I  hate the idea of leaving it on the exchange.
yes
QT wallet on OP


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Mynameischair on December 04, 2017, 12:33:25 PM
i apologize for the newb question but does this coin have a wallet. I  hate the idea of leaving it on the exchange.
yes
QT wallet on OP

sorry but i couldn't find anything labeled wallet, by any chance is it the binaries?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on December 04, 2017, 12:37:59 PM
i apologize for the newb question but does this coin have a wallet. I  hate the idea of leaving it on the exchange.
yes
QT wallet on OP

sorry but i couldn't find anything labeled wallet, by any chance is it the binaries?
yes


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Mynameischair on December 04, 2017, 06:51:11 PM
i apologize for the newb question but does this coin have a wallet. I  hate the idea of leaving it on the exchange.
yes
QT wallet on OP

sorry but i couldn't find anything labeled wallet, by any chance is it the binaries?
yes

Thanks man


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: okie dokie on December 05, 2017, 11:53:39 PM
Now if crypto kitties ran on chips lightning networks there would be no "slow down " of the network like eth.

Who would have guessed that crypto kitties would be popular.

Crypto kitties 2.0

Kittie Chips?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on December 06, 2017, 08:00:43 AM
Now if crypto kitties ran on chips lightning networks there would be no "slow down " of the network like eth.

Who would have guessed that crypto kitties would be popular.

Crypto kitties 2.0

Kittie Chips?
I have always known games will be what takes the blockchain mainstream


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: 12inchMom on December 08, 2017, 05:53:45 AM
Now if crypto kitties ran on chips lightning networks there would be no "slow down " of the network like eth.

Who would have guessed that crypto kitties would be popular.

Crypto kitties 2.0

Kittie Chips?
I have always known games will be what takes the blockchain mainstream

call me creepy but i think it will be games and porn. that crypto kitty though is something else. buddy sold a character for approx 120k. that's insane


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: PaulScavenger on December 08, 2017, 04:59:32 PM
... but can it run Crysis?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: okie dokie on December 09, 2017, 02:05:14 PM
Now if crypto kitties ran on chips lightning networks there would be no "slow down " of the network like eth.

Who would have guessed that crypto kitties would be popular.

Crypto kitties 2.0

Kittie Chips?
I have always known games will be what takes the blockchain mainstream

call me creepy but i think it will be games and porn. that crypto kitty though is something else. buddy sold a character for approx 120k. that's insane

120k, is that for real? Wow, I have a hard time believing that. But then again, never underestimate what people come up with when you add in as many degrees of freedom as possible. Minecraft is good example.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: ComputerGenie on December 13, 2017, 06:41:05 PM
Nice project. Why aren't you on Cryptopia? Missing CHIPS there.
Forget Cryptopia, there's none missing on BarterDEX and you can even do 0-confirmation swaps into your own private wallet ;D

https://image.ibb.co/ktM2N6/CHIPSonb_DEX.jpg


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: okie dokie on December 16, 2017, 04:14:56 PM
Finally hit the 20,000,000 coin mark. Based on current hash rate, what is the best guess for when all 21 mil coins are out?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on December 16, 2017, 04:22:58 PM
Finally hit the 20,000,000 coin mark. Based on current hash rate, what is the best guess for when all 21 mil coins are out?
never
I think block reward goes to 0 satoshis before it sums up to 21 million, something about infinite series, but not 100% sure on this.

the more practical question is when does it ready 20.99 million
I leave the answer to this for the reader to solve


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: extravirgin on December 16, 2017, 11:52:19 PM
is this strictly pow? i left my wallet open for a few days now and nothing.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on December 17, 2017, 10:12:19 AM
is this strictly pow? i left my wallet open for a few days now and nothing.
it is a direct bitcoin fork


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: okie dokie on December 17, 2017, 04:28:43 PM
Finally hit the 20,000,000 coin mark. Based on current hash rate, what is the best guess for when all 21 mil coins are out?
never
I think block reward goes to 0 satoshis before it sums up to 21 million, something about infinite series, but not 100% sure on this.

the more practical question is when does it ready 20.99 million
I leave the answer to this for the reader to solve

Potayto potahto

Im going to guess sometime in feb


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jksmds on December 19, 2017, 05:44:19 PM
I want to get some CHIPS.

I know it's on CoinExchange, but I personally don't trust that exchange much.
I am Cryptopia, but CHIPS is not there.

Somebody suggested BarterDex, but I am new here, I googled it, but finding it difficult to understand.

How to buy CHIPS? When are you coming on Cryptopia or any other exchange?



Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: mR.k0fka on December 24, 2017, 01:36:30 PM
I want to get some CHIPS.

I know it's on CoinExchange, but I personally don't trust that exchange much.
I am Cryptopia, but CHIPS is not there.

Somebody suggested BarterDex, but I am new here, I googled it, but finding it difficult to understand.

How to buy CHIPS? When are you coming on Cryptopia or any other exchange?



you can download barterdex at komodoplatform website
and you can find on youtube how to install and use it
its really easy to install
may be a little difficult to use, but for average internet users its really not a problem
its getting polished for better experience
you better try to get it now and send it to a paper wallet to hold
you can find a paper wallet on komodoplatform.com too
the wallet is good for KMD and for CHIPS too


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: brownie14 on December 24, 2017, 05:39:27 PM
I want to get some CHIPS.

I know it's on CoinExchange, but I personally don't trust that exchange much.
I am Cryptopia, but CHIPS is not there.

Somebody suggested BarterDex, but I am new here, I googled it, but finding it difficult to understand.

How to buy CHIPS? When are you coming on Cryptopia or any other exchange?





I got mine from coinexchange. Coinexchange is a good site for low volume coins .... they have no problem....i have been using coinexchange for sometime now without any problems ... btc pay in is even faster on coinexchange than on other prominent exchanges .... Get CHIPS from there and send to the Komodo agama wallet lie or native ... doesnt matter which one ... If you wanna talk about a very bad exchange with very bad customer service...then that would be yobit .... i transferred coins there and till tday after several weeks nothing has been credited ... i have written tons of emails to yobit but none got answered .... i mean none ... i dont even knw why people still use yobit ...

infact get CHIPS fron coinexchange and send to komodo wallet ... i can assure you that you will encounter no problems .... and another stuff ... the transfer of CHIPS from coinexchange to komodo wallet takes a couple of seconds ... very fast ...

I hope i could help you ...


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: brownie14 on December 24, 2017, 06:06:11 PM


Is there any plan to put up a website and discord/telegram channels for CHIP? I think this will be very good ... It is difficult to really get infos about what CHIPS is really about ... we need something like a face for CHIPS

Has ist been officially launched yet? or this is just an experimental coin? ... with little or without any marketing and this is already at over 6m marketcap ... wow ... this is astonishing ... i wonder what will happen if this is marketed and made known to many out there.... i came across this via komodo platform ...was looking at what coins have been added there and i came across CHIPS ... the ticker name was very captivating ...so i decided to check it out on coinmarket ... before i even realised myself ... i was already buying some for myself ... this coin has got some attraction in it ... many people will get this coin without even knowing the technical background behind it just because it is called CHIPS ... damn it ... what a captivating and appealing ticker .... i love it


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on December 24, 2017, 11:18:01 PM


Is there any plan to put up a website and discord/telegram channels for CHIP? I think this will be very good ... It is difficult to really get infos about what CHIPS is really about ... we need something like a face for CHIPS

Has ist been officially launched yet? or this is just an experimental coin? ... with little or without any marketing and this is already at over 6m marketcap ... wow ... this is astonishing ... i wonder what will happen if this is marketed and made known to many out there.... i came across this via komodo platform ...was looking at what coins have been added there and i came across CHIPS ... the ticker name was very captivating ...so i decided to check it out on coinmarket ... before i even realised myself ... i was already buying some for myself ... this coin has got some attraction in it ... many people will get this coin without even knowing the technical background behind it just because it is called CHIPS ... damn it ... what a captivating and appealing ticker .... i love it
I wont stop people from making a website, etc.
but I wont go out of my way to manage it as I have no extra time for such things.
It is nice to be able to just develop code without external pressures.

No timeframe, no specific destination, no roadmap, nothing except development work to integrate LN, generalized decentralized shuffling, game statemachines, blockchain enforced contracts, into KMD ecosystem. Sufficient for realtime decentralized poker.

How will it be done? When will it be done? What will it do?

All these are what I am refining and exploring and developing.

CHIPS is a gamble. The gamble is whether I will be able to solve the technical challenge. Since it is something never done before, there is no guarantee that I can.

If you need a fancy set of marketing materials to feel confident enough to buy CHIPS, dont. It will take a long time and unless you believe in my skills, you will have doubts and will be pestering me about websites and roadmaps. I dont want to spend time with such, I prefer to get the code working

In any case, all you need to know to make such a decision is in this short thread. Just read and decide if you have long term funds to put into CHIPS. Do not expect any regular reports or rapid price gains. I have other responsibilities (barterDEX, KMD itself) than CHIPS and am not fulltime on it yet.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: PaulScavenger on December 26, 2017, 09:10:59 PM

I wont stop people from making a website, etc.
but I wont go out of my way to manage it as I have no extra time for such things.
It is nice to be able to just develop code without external pressures.

No timeframe, no specific destination, no roadmap, nothing except development work to integrate LN, generalized decentralized shuffling, game statemachines, blockchain enforced contracts, into KMD ecosystem. Sufficient for realtime decentralized poker.

How will it be done? When will it be done? What will it do?

All these are what I am refining and exploring and developing.

CHIPS is a gamble. The gamble is whether I will be able to solve the technical challenge. Since it is something never done before, there is no guarantee that I can.

If you need a fancy set of marketing materials to feel confident enough to buy CHIPS, dont. It will take a long time and unless you believe in my skills, you will have doubts and will be pestering me about websites and roadmaps. I dont want to spend time with such, I prefer to get the code working

In any case, all you need to know to make such a decision is in this short thread. Just read and decide if you have long term funds to put into CHIPS. Do not expect any regular reports or rapid price gains. I have other responsibilities (barterDEX, KMD itself) than CHIPS and am not fulltime on it yet.
I dont think you even have to succeed for it to be useful. Fast transactions and nearly 0 inflation rate is attractive to me.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: canibalgb on December 31, 2017, 05:13:13 AM
Surely this coin has a great future, and your Dev is very competent.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: canibalgb on January 01, 2018, 05:02:16 AM
  A happy new year and great achievements for the whole CHIPS community.

  http://www.millionairewish.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/achivemnetbanner..jpg


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: canibalgb on January 01, 2018, 05:27:23 PM
 Hi. How can I check my CHIPS submissions? Is there a Blockchaim?
 I tried to see at kmd.explorer.supernet.org with my CHIPS address but I could not.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on January 02, 2018, 02:29:39 AM
Hi. How can I check my CHIPS submissions? Is there a Blockchaim?
 I tried to see at kmd.explorer.supernet.org with my CHIPS address but I could not.
http://chips1.explorer.supernet.org/


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: canibalgb on January 02, 2018, 05:48:39 PM
Hi. How can I check my CHIPS submissions? Is there a Blockchaim?
 I tried to see at kmd.explorer.supernet.org with my CHIPS address but I could not.
http://chips1.explorer.supernet.org/

Thank you for the answer, Sir.
I'm really excited about the great project of this coin.
Just need CHIP and a Chair!  :D


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: VeeTeaSee on January 03, 2018, 07:50:06 AM
this one is good for 5%-10% of the portfolio for a long run

please people watch the barterDEX video about liquidation and marketmaking, and use it on Chips
that is the best choice to become the first coin people buy when they start using barterDEX :)
first coin people buy with their first atomic swap transaction


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: snowdropfore on January 03, 2018, 07:58:07 AM
i am buying the chips from the beginning ,still holding ,this coin onlu have 21000000,still undervalue ,everyone should store some chips now .


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: canibalgb on January 03, 2018, 06:02:38 PM
i am buying the chips from the beginning ,still holding ,this coin onlu have 21000000,still undervalue ,everyone should store some chips now .

Yes, I think the price is still very cheap.
Now I just need to try and buy a good chair, if there's any money left.  :D ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: marilouadrie on January 03, 2018, 06:23:38 PM
I think that your project has all it takes to become the real CHIPS! Best of luck to you!


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Zakhal on January 06, 2018, 01:17:15 AM
I put some money into this. Kmd platform, lightning network, experienced dev, very low marketcap etc. This could grow into something.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: PaulScavenger on January 06, 2018, 02:38:26 AM
I put some money into this. Kmd platform, lightning network, experienced dev, very low marketcap etc. This could grow into something.

Yeah CHIPS could turn out great, but keep in mind that the project is experimental in nature, and it may be a while before any big release


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on January 06, 2018, 07:14:48 AM
 https://github.com/jl777/lightning/pull/11


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Davecashindat on January 06, 2018, 12:32:09 PM
Great, a step closer to the moon! The mining is also nearing in completion. Time to grap some more, fantastic potential. Thanks team.  :)


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: komodomining on January 06, 2018, 03:14:17 PM
https://github.com/jl777/lightning/pull/11

AMAZING!


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: canibalgb on January 07, 2018, 03:40:17 AM
https://github.com/jl777/lightning/pull/11

That's great news! We are striding towards the top.  :)


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: contrader on January 07, 2018, 10:13:16 AM
where buy CHIPS/BTC


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Acura3600 on January 07, 2018, 10:27:47 AM
where buy CHIPS/BTC

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/chips/#markets


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: ComputerGenie on January 07, 2018, 10:55:37 AM
Also a ton for sale on BarterDEX  8)


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: geoffvro on January 07, 2018, 04:35:38 PM
Any word on any other exchanges.. the wallet on coinexchange.io has been in maintenance for at least a day


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: l8orre on January 07, 2018, 05:26:55 PM
Any word on any other exchanges.. the wallet on coinexchange.io has been in maintenance for at least a day

yeah I noticed too - very annoying ...
they did have an issue with miners mining directly into their wallet- which is a messy thing to do, nasty miners.
so they have a screwed wallet with a gazillion tiny TXs, question is how long it will take them to sort it out


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: totwotoo2 on January 08, 2018, 09:20:44 AM
Any word on any other exchanges.. the wallet on coinexchange.io has been in maintenance for at least a day

yeah I noticed too - very annoying ...
they did have an issue with miners mining directly into their wallet- which is a messy thing to do, nasty miners.
so they have a screwed wallet with a gazillion tiny TXs, question is how long it will take them to sort it out

sounds like herding cats...not fun ;D ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Davecashindat on January 08, 2018, 05:42:22 PM
It the whitepaper now published?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: PaulScavenger on January 08, 2018, 06:16:55 PM
It the whitepaper now published?
No

It is under peer review


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Davecashindat on January 09, 2018, 08:11:04 PM
Thanks   :)


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: SnowLion on January 10, 2018, 11:05:18 AM
If you make a chess game I'm happy to help or advise. I'm a master level player.   ;D

~Best


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on January 10, 2018, 01:08:20 PM
If you make a chess game I'm happy to help or advise. I'm a master level player.   ;D

~Best
thanks!
but I already have integrated stockfish into supernet agents before, though I am interested in the alpha zero type of self-learning

when we release the chess, we will certainly need chessplayers to play (for CHIPS)


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: PaulScavenger on January 10, 2018, 06:04:40 PM
I'll play some chess!

I'm a novice though, ill probably get spanked!

I dont mind sacrificing a few chips for the struggle, of course  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: l8orre on January 11, 2018, 09:01:10 AM
If you make a chess game I'm happy to help or advise. I'm a master level player.   ;D

~Best
thanks!
but I already have integrated stockfish into supernet agents before, though I am interested in the alpha zero type of self-learning

when we release the chess, we will certainly need chessplayers to play (for CHIPS)

I have been playing lichess on and off for a few years now. From that experience, I see a major issue with online chess: cheating
people cheat like monkeys on lichess to win for 'fun' - I can not imagine that it would be possible to create a cheat free version if it comes to money.

Cheating is a major issue in online gaming, alos in online Poker- but unlike online Poker I see no tweak of the game that could prevent cheating by simply using a computer program on the side.

How would you imagine that?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on January 11, 2018, 10:33:40 AM
If you make a chess game I'm happy to help or advise. I'm a master level player.   ;D

~Best
thanks!
but I already have integrated stockfish into supernet agents before, though I am interested in the alpha zero type of self-learning

when we release the chess, we will certainly need chessplayers to play (for CHIPS)

I have been playing lichess on and off for a few years now. From that experience, I see a major issue with online chess: cheating
people cheat like monkeys on lichess to win for 'fun' - I can not imagine that it would be possible to create a cheat free version if it comes to money.

Cheating is a major issue in online gaming, alos in online Poker- but unlike online Poker I see no tweak of the game that could prevent cheating by simply using a computer program on the side.

How would you imagine that?
I think make it hybrid chess (or is it called advanced chess?)
basically let it be ok for people to use a computer engine to assist them


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: PaulScavenger on January 13, 2018, 10:00:53 AM
I think allowing computer assistance is a sweet idea.

Someone shared this video with me recently,

only makes you wonder how complex the networks could get when battling each other!

https://youtu.be/qv6UVOQ0F44


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Denavrus on January 13, 2018, 10:14:58 AM
Hey, what with CHIPS wallet on CoinExchange? How i can to sell coins? How long time this maintanance?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Acura3600 on January 13, 2018, 10:27:10 AM
Hey, what with CHIPS wallet on CoinExchange? How i can to sell coins? How long time this maintanance?

The wallet is in maintenance.

Our tech support team is actively working on resolving the issue and getting it back online ASAP - sorry, we cannot give an exact ETA.

Please do NOT make any deposits or withdrawals while the wallet is still in maintenance.

If you have made a deposit or withdrawal before realizing the wallet was disabled, then you will have to wait until it is active again for the transaction to process.

Pending transactions will be processed once the wallet is re-enabled.

We apologize for any inconvenience.

Sincerely,

CoinExchange.io Support Team


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Davecashindat on January 13, 2018, 03:14:10 PM
Great, time to fill up on cheap CHIPS 😁


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: sereneticelectrons on January 13, 2018, 08:11:39 PM
Any word on any other exchanges.. the wallet on coinexchange.io has been in maintenance for at least a day

yeah I noticed too - very annoying ...
they did have an issue with miners mining directly into their wallet- which is a messy thing to do, nasty miners.
so they have a screwed wallet with a gazillion tiny TXs, question is how long it will take them to sort it out

I received a withdrawal from Coinexchange yesterday, if that helps anyone, they seem to of fixed the problem.

  I'm afraid I was one of those miners, although it was just as much surprise to me as anyone, I had late night pasted the coinexchange address into my miner instead of Agama addy..A few weaks later I notice I have no coins!? oh..They're on Coinexchange, oops :) So sorry for that, although out of curiousity, this coin is designed for small, fast, microtransactions.  I don't understand how that caused harm to the wallet if anyone could elaborate a bit.

Thanks!! And Sorry about that!

Daiyox


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: ComputerGenie on January 14, 2018, 03:16:21 AM
...although out of curiousity, this coin is designed for small, fast, microtransactions.  I don't understand how that caused harm to the wallet if anyone could elaborate a bit...
What the coin is intended for and the shitty code that some random private exchange uses are not mutually inclusive.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: heova.ga on January 14, 2018, 07:12:55 AM
I am a KMD holder. Just buy 222CHIPS via coinexchange.io
I think I better withdraw it to BatterDEX. Should I?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: NASdaq on January 14, 2018, 08:27:07 AM
I am a KMD holder. Just buy 222CHIPS via coinexchange.io
I think I better withdraw it to BatterDEX. Should I?

Yes, coinexchange has many problems with chips wallet, days to get my chips withdrawn, will never use again.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: heova.ga on January 14, 2018, 11:43:44 AM
I am using Komodo paper wallet. Can I send CHIPS to it? And how can I spend CHIPS when I want.
(I often send KMD by enter private key to agama in lite mode)


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: PaulScavenger on January 14, 2018, 02:15:28 PM
I am a KMD holder. Just buy 222CHIPS via coinexchange.io
I think I better withdraw it to BatterDEX. Should I?

Yes, coinexchange has many problems with chips wallet, days to get my chips withdrawn, will never use again.

it isnt really their fault, to be fair. the coin has 10 second blocks and miners were sending their coins into the wallet.

it creates a huge UTXO set whenever you try to send transactions back out of the wallet, and things get really junked up.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: ComputerGenie on January 14, 2018, 02:42:58 PM
it isnt really their fault, to be fair. the coin has 10 second blocks and miners were sending their coins into the wallet.

it creates a huge UTXO set whenever you try to send transactions back out of the wallet, and things get really junked up.
True story:
Exchanges are incapable of writing code that combines UTXOs

 ::)

Admittedly, there are over 8600 blocks per day; however, if your claim is that ce devs can't manage combining 8600 UTXOs in a 24 hr span (pretending that 1 miner mined every block), your statement pretty much sums up why using ce is a bad idea in the 1st place.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: sereneticelectrons on January 14, 2018, 10:01:19 PM
What the coin is intended for and the shitty code that some random private exchange uses are not mutually inclusive.
Indeed, thank you for the direct hit of an answer  :D

BarterDEX couldn't have more perfect timing to enter the Cryptorealm


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: ut5 on January 16, 2018, 08:00:30 PM
hi all, please tell me a real working pool for POW Chips, thank you.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: heova.ga on January 20, 2018, 11:34:04 AM
I am a KMD holder. Just buy 222CHIPS via coinexchange.io
I think I better withdraw it to BatterDEX. Should I?

Yes, coinexchange has many problems with chips wallet, days to get my chips withdrawn, will never use again.
OMG coinexchange.io down today 😱
Luckily I withdraw 1 week ago.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: canibalgb on January 20, 2018, 08:59:13 PM
I am a KMD holder. Just buy 222CHIPS via coinexchange.io
I think I better withdraw it to BatterDEX. Should I?

Yes, coinexchange has many problems with chips wallet, days to get my chips withdrawn, will never use again.
OMG coinexchange.io down today 😱
Luckily I withdraw 1 week ago.

CoinExchange is finally back.  ;)
Check this link:  https://www.coinexchange2.com


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: BTC-BTC-BTC on January 23, 2018, 02:34:06 AM
I am a KMD holder. Just buy 222CHIPS via coinexchange.io
I think I better withdraw it to BatterDEX. Should I?

Yes, coinexchange has many problems with chips wallet, days to get my chips withdrawn, will never use again.
OMG coinexchange.io down today 😱
Luckily I withdraw 1 week ago.

CoinExchange is finally back.  ;)
Check this link:  https://www.coinexchange2.com

https://www.coinexchange.io is back. They fixed the DNS problem.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: snowdropfore on January 24, 2018, 06:48:22 AM
maybe we should consider go list more chips now??? there are a lot of people did not know the chips out there .


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on January 24, 2018, 07:16:17 AM
maybe we should consider go list more chips now??? there are a lot of people did not know the chips out there .
sure, I am ok with that.
just get a central exchange to agree to list without asking for $100,000
then we can get such listings.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on January 25, 2018, 06:29:32 AM
maybe we should consider go list more chips now??? there are a lot of people did not know the chips out there .
what is the status of listing CHIPS on more exchanges? Did you find any that would do it without much payment? We could pay a reasonable fee.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: tommy569 on January 29, 2018, 02:10:55 AM
maybe we should consider go list more chips now??? there are a lot of people did not know the chips out there .
what is the status of listing CHIPS on more exchanges? Did you find any that would do it without much payment? We could pay a reasonable fee.
What about BTC-Alpha? It's a small one but with only about 20 coins listed there, so people can easily recognize chips.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on January 29, 2018, 04:56:33 AM
maybe we should consider go list more chips now??? there are a lot of people did not know the chips out there .
what is the status of listing CHIPS on more exchanges? Did you find any that would do it without much payment? We could pay a reasonable fee.
What about BTC-Alpha? It's a small one but with only about 20 coins listed there, so people can easily recognize chips.
how much do they charge to get a listing?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: WALKEN-COIN on January 30, 2018, 01:31:30 AM
TradeSatoshi charges a 0.75 BTC fee for being added.

I am not sure what a reasonable fee would be these days for a coin addition. Would a pool be set up to contribute to, and the community could just add small amounts until it is full, or is there already a fund put aside for this?

I can look around for exchanges that are under the budget, if it would help.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on January 30, 2018, 01:06:11 PM
TradeSatoshi charges a 0.75 BTC fee for being added.

I am not sure what a reasonable fee would be these days for a coin addition. Would a pool be set up to contribute to, and the community could just add small amounts until it is full, or is there already a fund put aside for this?

I can look around for exchanges that are under the budget, if it would help.
quite a small exchange...
barterDEX isnt that far behind in volumes compared to them


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: canibalgb on January 30, 2018, 03:00:23 PM
TradeSatoshi charges a 0.75 BTC fee for being added.

I am not sure what a reasonable fee would be these days for a coin addition. Would a pool be set up to contribute to, and the community could just add small amounts until it is full, or is there already a fund put aside for this?

I can look around for exchanges that are under the budget, if it would help.
quite a small exchange...
barterDEX isnt that far behind in volumes compared to them

I do not think it's time to think about new exchanges. Choosing a wrong exchange can hurt the currency.
In the future, with the increase in volume and understanding that this is a great project, negotiating to enter the exchanges would be easier


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Goldshredder on January 30, 2018, 05:26:15 PM
Didn't you create Komodo, jl777? - which is listed on many big exchanges.  

Due to that, I assumed (no doubt wrongly) that you would already have contact with many exchanges, who should be interested in all your future projects including CHIPS.

Personally I think CHIPS is pretty cool.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on January 30, 2018, 06:25:30 PM
Didn't you create Komodo, jl777? - which is listed on many big exchanges.  

Due to that, I assumed (no doubt wrongly) that you would already have contact with many exchanges, who should be interested in all your future projects including CHIPS.

Personally I think CHIPS is pretty cool.
sure they are all happy to get paid $100,000 to list another coin.
the exchanges make money for listing, it is part of their business model to make sure they can pay the rent even if nobody uses their exchange

to be fair, there are some exchanges that will list coins based on non-financial subsidy aspects, just the well established ones are maximizing their profits. which is their right, and they use it


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: operabit on January 30, 2018, 07:00:36 PM
TradeSatoshi charges a 0.75 BTC fee for being added.

I am not sure what a reasonable fee would be these days for a coin addition. Would a pool be set up to contribute to, and the community could just add small amounts until it is full, or is there already a fund put aside for this?

I can look around for exchanges that are under the budget, if it would help.
quite a small exchange...
barterDEX isnt that far behind in volumes compared to them

I do not think it's time to think about new exchanges. Choosing a wrong exchange can hurt the currency.
In the future, with the increase in volume and understanding that this is a great project, negotiating to enter the exchanges would be easier

New exchanges are very important for the expansion of the community, so the more existing the more popular the coin is.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Goldshredder on January 31, 2018, 07:51:35 PM
Didn't you create Komodo, jl777? - which is listed on many big exchanges.  

Due to that, I assumed (no doubt wrongly) that you would already have contact with many exchanges, who should be interested in all your future projects including CHIPS.

Personally I think CHIPS is pretty cool.
sure they are all happy to get paid $100,000 to list another coin.
the exchanges make money for listing, it is part of their business model to make sure they can pay the rent even if nobody uses their exchange

to be fair, there are some exchanges that will list coins based on non-financial subsidy aspects, just the well established ones are maximizing their profits. which is their right, and they use it

Indeed, I can't imagine any popular centralised exchange being anything other than expensive to list at, these days.

Therefore the aim may be for a "cheap good" option, aka reasonably priced (which is still going to be relatively expensive!) non top tier exchange which is up and coming (consistently increasing in volume).   I am not knowledgeable to name such a one off top of my head.  But I think those may be a balanced criteria to follow.

A good project must more than make the listing money back (else why is anyone else bothering?!), and this project has the fundamentals to be popular.  And with that popularity would come the financials to afford further listings.

Well, all good in theory.  I'm not the one offering the listing money, obviously.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Phynext on February 01, 2018, 09:20:07 AM
You can try listing it here


http://kucoinform.mikecrm.com/tAssDWK


"Thank you for your trust in Kucoin! This form need to be filled by your team members, those filled by community members will be ignored. Once your token is seleted into our listing, we will contact you within 3 working days."


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on February 01, 2018, 10:21:59 AM
You can try listing it here


http://kucoinform.mikecrm.com/tAssDWK


"Thank you for your trust in Kucoin! This form need to be filled by your team members, those filled by community members will be ignored. Once your token is seleted into our listing, we will contact you within 3 working days."
It would be nice to be able to designate a community member as an official exchange listings representative. I am just to busy to be corresponding back and forth with exchanges

if you are up for this, contact me


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Dxlike on February 01, 2018, 10:45:24 AM
Any working pooker website?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on February 01, 2018, 11:26:25 AM
Any working pooker website?
not for a long time, we are coding the core cli level
also no roadmap, marketing plans, advertising, investor relations, etc.
we want to work on the core cli with as few distractions as possible

this was not an ICO, it was old school purely mined coin. volunteers and donations based



Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Geekxplore on February 03, 2018, 08:28:21 AM
What is CHIPS Coin?
Bitpoker is a decentralized online poker platform that wants to become the future of online poker.
Read More https://www.geekxplore.com/what-is-chips-coin.html


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on February 03, 2018, 09:40:16 AM
What is CHIPS Coin?
Bitpoker is a decentralized online poker platform that wants to become the future of online poker.
Read More https://www.geekxplore.com/what-is-chips-coin.html
totally different project, never heard of it till now


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: xieergai1980 on February 04, 2018, 03:43:52 PM
hey dev, whats wrong wtih wallet? It is offline in coinexchange...


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Denavrus on February 04, 2018, 04:26:20 PM
hey dev, whats wrong wtih wallet? It is offline in coinexchange...

I can buy from you, if you want.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: BTC-BTC-BTC on February 04, 2018, 10:18:11 PM
hey dev, whats wrong wtih wallet? It is offline in coinexchange...

I can buy from you, if you want.

You also can get it at barterDEX.

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/chips/#markets


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Goldshredder on February 05, 2018, 06:23:16 AM
It would be nice to be able to designate a community member as an official exchange listings representative. I am just to busy to be corresponding back and forth with exchanges

if you are up for this, contact me

If you want a good writer who can formalise your communications, I can help.  But it would still need your close direction in the end.  I have no contacts at exchanges, and possess only the most casual technical knowledge about CHIPS.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Phynext on February 05, 2018, 09:23:55 AM
You can try listing it here


http://kucoinform.mikecrm.com/tAssDWK


"Thank you for your trust in Kucoin! This form need to be filled by your team members, those filled by community members will be ignored. Once your token is seleted into our listing, we will contact you within 3 working days."
It would be nice to be able to designate a community member as an official exchange listings representative. I am just to busy to be corresponding back and forth with exchanges

if you are up for this, contact me

I sent a pm


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Jurua on February 06, 2018, 12:36:19 PM
hey dev, whats wrong wtih wallet? It is offline in coinexchange...

I have same issue, barterdex volume is very low. jl777B maybe you are working with coinexchange problem and have preliminary info when it will be online again?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: ComputerGenie on February 06, 2018, 01:32:30 PM
hey dev, whats wrong wtih wallet? It is offline in coinexchange...

I have same issue, barterdex volume is very low...
There's a perverse irony in that that the volume is low because people don't want to trade in a low volume market and create volume.  :-\


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: bitpotter on February 06, 2018, 01:57:15 PM
hey dev, whats wrong wtih wallet? It is offline in coinexchange...

I have same issue, barterdex volume is very low...
There's a perverse irony in that that the volume is low because people don't want to trade in a low volume market and create volume.  :-\

When the low volumes of everyone will go, they will be looking for a new place that is more profitable.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Jurua on February 06, 2018, 02:06:04 PM
hey dev, whats wrong wtih wallet? It is offline in coinexchange...

I have same issue, barterdex volume is very low...
There's a perverse irony in that that the volume is low because people don't want to trade in a low volume market and create volume.  :-\

:DD yes it is sad true, i tried to trade there, but app is still in beta, it doesint work in windows, for some reason (i stared Agama wallet, add installed net frameworks), and linux is not for everyone. And when i tried to trade, there is not enough traders, and exchange process is complicated, you have to do additional transactions and etc. So i think Barterdex wont be attractive solution  for next few months, till it get past beta stage :/ but after that, i think it is exciding project :)


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: ComputerGenie on February 06, 2018, 02:24:02 PM
:DD yes it is sad true, i tried to trade there, but app is still in beta, it doesint work in windows, for some reason (i stared Agama wallet, add installed net frameworks), and linux is not for everyone....
I generally does work in Winduhs (there are some random issues, most of which belong to Whinduhs and not the app). And I'm not sure how/why you're bringing Agama into the equation.


...And when i tried to trade, there is not enough traders...
ty for making my point for me
There's a perverse irony in that that the volume is low because people don't want to trade in a low volume market and create volume.  :-\


...and exchange process is complicated...
Not sure how "complicated" it is to set a price and click "Ask" to sell or "Bid" to buy; but sure, let's go with what you said....


... you have to do additional transactions and etc....
Not sure how having a few extra UTXOs in your wallet is a "bad thing" or a "chore" or whatever; but sure, let's go with what you said....
 ::)


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: okie dokie on February 06, 2018, 03:45:40 PM
It shouldn't be to hard to match what, $1600-$8000 volume , going on the dex.


Can you deposit chips straight to barterdex? Or is agama required as a first step? It seems to me agama is always required.

Also why did the community go dark about the last beer-kmd test, what happened? Was the test successful?

You know what, never mind I don't care, I expect some snarky response of how marketing and updates are stupid and only mind reading is the way forward.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: ComputerGenie on February 06, 2018, 03:55:19 PM
...Can you deposit chips straight to barterdex?....
Yes.

... Or is agama required as a first step?...
No.

....Also why did the community go dark about the last beer-kmd test, what happened? .....
The one that just ended a couple of hours ago?  ::)

...Was the test successful?....
Highly.

...You know what, never mind I don't care, I expect some snarky response....
If you don't care, then kindly take your troll ass elsewhere.  :)


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Goldshredder on February 08, 2018, 07:33:28 PM
You're a harsh critic ComputerGenie. 

Nobody dares speak now.  :p


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: okie dokie on February 09, 2018, 03:35:12 PM
You're a harsh critic ComputerGenie. 

Nobody dares speak now.  :p

Lol, nah, I was trolling the genie, and he called me out. He might be a crusty fellow, but he is def more valuable then me.  :-*

There is not much to say about chips yet, except it is getting closer to all coins minted. It def needs things organized and created similar to other projects though, and James has written that he would except community help with this. Though only James knows the whole picture at the moment so not sure how much the community can actually do. As James has made clear, updates will come infrequently. Although it would be great to post progress so we can share in the successes and cheer him on.



And of course I trust James 100% even if he makes me wait which drives me nutz on occasion.



Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: ComputerGenie on February 09, 2018, 03:42:44 PM
You're a harsh critic ComputerGenie. ..

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/3b/3bf6c3ced4ac588fd44423493d82391ef3fdf62ac9b8686efe6fbfbadcd3aa11.jpg


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: canibalgb on February 09, 2018, 05:42:10 PM

I appreciate your comments, and I think they are important.

It may look like this, but it is not!  :D

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/TECH/web/07/19/commenting.on.news.sites/t1larg.online.comments.rk.cnn.jpg


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Denavrus on February 10, 2018, 06:32:51 AM
I love poker, and I love poker chips.  I couldn't resist picking these up last month.  Is there a windows wallet yet?  I'd like to safeguard my chips until the first poker game, and I don't believe coinexchange is a good place to store them.
  https://github.com/DeckerSU/chips3/releases/download/v0.14.99_decker_2/chips3_binaries.zip


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Denavrus on February 10, 2018, 04:22:41 PM
I cant sell CHIPS, please activate the wallet on CoinExchange! I dont mine to exchange, i have a local wallet.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: ComputerGenie on February 10, 2018, 04:35:36 PM
I cant sell CHIPS, please activate the wallet on CoinExchange! I dont mine to exchange, i have a local wallet.
This isn't CoinExchange, please see CoinExchange to activate something on CoinExchange! You not mining to CoinExchange doesn't change the fact that this is not CoinExchange, or that CoinExchange has the control over coins that you can send to CoinExchange from your local wallet and get credit on CoinExchange.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Alex_T on February 15, 2018, 08:09:26 AM
Where can I sell this coin? On BarterDEX please do not send - there to sell unreal! This system is not for normal people, it is impossible to work with it.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on February 15, 2018, 02:41:25 PM
Submission #15 has been submitted for review at the 2018 Crypto Valley
Conference on Blockchain Technology (CVCBT 2018) site.

     Title: PANGEA/Privatebet - Decentralized and generalized shuffled
            decks with faceup and facedown support and recovery from
            minority nodes disconnecting
by sg777 and jl777


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Goldshredder on March 11, 2018, 04:56:27 PM
How goes the project?

Was there any luck getting any discussions going with upcoming exchanges?

There is obviously little point going after the top tier exchanges as they moved a long way out of everybody's reach many months ago.  The billionaires don't care to talk to the mere thousandaires.

The good thing is there is a surge of new startup exchanges, to meet the needs of the crypto projects that don't have millions just to list.  Some of these startups have shown by their behaviour to date that they are poor prospects.  Others seem quite promising.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: kurbeks on March 11, 2018, 05:06:15 PM
Long time no talk in this thread :)


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: canibalgb on March 11, 2018, 07:41:33 PM
Long time no talk in this thread :)

Correct, this indicate that  jl777B is working hard on this project and does not have time to write here something about it.  :)


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Goldshredder on March 12, 2018, 11:47:38 AM
Long time no talk in this thread :)

Correct, this indicate that  jl777B is working hard on this project and does not have time to write here something about it.  :)

I'll bet!

If there's any way the community can help just let us know.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Descrowteam on March 12, 2018, 12:01:46 PM
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Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on March 12, 2018, 08:43:48 PM
We are making good progress on the blockchain enforced contracts, which is required for a blockchain enforced poker.

the CHIPS realtime p2p code is already working, so once we get the blockchain enforced contracts ready we can pull together a system that works either in realtime with MofN multisig approvals or invokes a blockchain enforced payout vector.

really, it is all quite technical and 99.9% of readers here wont understand so I am not posting much details about it here.

tl:dr: the goal is still to get a working realtime decentralized poker using CHIPS, KMD and PANGEA chains all coordinated with a realtime p2p betting.

tl:dr of tl:dr: CHIPS is good


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: SweetHodler on March 13, 2018, 12:07:33 PM
did CHIPS got delisted from hitBTC or something? They do not want to process my withdraw at any cost. I always get the message "insufficient funds in the main account" which is of course not true, I have all my balance on the main account willing to withdraw to MEW and deposit to poker from there. I opened a ticket with hitBTC a few days ago, still nothing. Please help.

I have also downloaded a Civic app in order to do the KYC. I have verified my phone number and email address with CIVIC. When I click scan the code and aim it at the civic code from poker softwear, nothing happens. How I do this properly?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: ComputerGenie on March 13, 2018, 01:42:16 PM
did CHIPS got delisted from hitBTC or something? They do not want to process my withdraw at any cost. I always get the message "insufficient funds in the main account" which is of course not true, I have all my balance on the main account willing to withdraw to MEW and deposit to poker from there. I opened a ticket with hitBTC a few days ago, still nothing. Please help.

I have also downloaded a Civic app in order to do the KYC. I have verified my phone number and email address with CIVIC. When I click scan the code and aim it at the civic code from poker softwear, nothing happens. How I do this properly?
Literally, nothing of what you said there has anything to do with CHIPS.  ::)


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Goldshredder on March 14, 2018, 11:33:34 PM

How I do this properly?

By posting in the Civic thread? :)

And then buying some CHIPS.  :)

Not necessarily in that order.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Goldshredder on March 14, 2018, 11:40:36 PM
We are making good progress on the blockchain enforced contracts, which is required for a blockchain enforced poker.

the CHIPS realtime p2p code is already working, so once we get the blockchain enforced contracts ready we can pull together a system that works either in realtime with MofN multisig approvals or invokes a blockchain enforced payout vector.

really, it is all quite technical and 99.9% of readers here wont understand so I am not posting much details about it here.

tl:dr: the goal is still to get a working realtime decentralized poker using CHIPS, KMD and PANGEA chains all coordinated with a realtime p2p betting.

tl:dr of tl:dr: CHIPS is good

Talk about a killer application.  Pretty cool.  The tech outline you gave makes sense, I think.
 Thanks for the update.

Really looking forward to seeing it all come together.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: okie dokie on March 15, 2018, 03:53:36 AM
tl:dr of tl:dr: CHIPS is are good



Please tell me the first contract will be called DIP.

Most readers will get Chips and Dip.

Or Chips and salsa.

Maybe even Fish and Chips

Barbeque chips, ruffled chips, gluten free chips

Ok, im putting down the beer.. Mmmm chips


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on March 15, 2018, 07:51:51 AM
tl:dr of tl:dr: CHIPS is are good



Please tell me the first contract will be called DIP.

Most readers will get Chips and Dip.

Or Chips and salsa.

Maybe even Fish and Chips

Barbeque chips, ruffled chips, gluten free chips

Ok, im putting down the beer.. Mmmm chips

contracts will be embedded into a custom blockchain for that usecase, the first contract (other than test contracts) will likely be named PANGEA


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Goldshredder on March 15, 2018, 02:37:33 PM
Please tell me the first contract will be called DIP.

Most readers will get Chips and Dip.

Or Chips and salsa.

Maybe even Fish and Chips

Barbeque chips, ruffled chips, gluten free chips

Ok, im putting down the beer.. Mmmm chips

Would you like fries with that supercontinent?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: okie dokie on March 16, 2018, 03:55:16 PM
Finally hit the 20,000,000 coin mark. Based on current hash rate, what is the best guess for when all 21 mil coins are out?
never
I think block reward goes to 0 satoshis before it sums up to 21 million, something about infinite series, but not 100% sure on this.

the more practical question is when does it ready 20.99 million
I leave the answer to this for the reader to solve

Potayto potahto

Im going to guess sometime in feb

Ok, I was a little off. Chips is down to about the last 100,000 coins to be mined.

20900037


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: canibalgb on March 16, 2018, 05:17:29 PM
tl:dr of tl:dr: CHIPS is are good



Please tell me the first contract will be called DIP.

Most readers will get Chips and Dip.

Or Chips and salsa.

Maybe even Fish and Chips

Barbeque chips, ruffled chips, gluten free chips

Ok, im putting down the beer.. Mmmm chips

contracts will be embedded into a custom blockchain for that usecase, the first contract (other than test contracts) will likely be named PANGEA

Good name. That seems to unite people.  :)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-i0LXI5sJ2aI/UP0-b0ZPHJI/AAAAAAAAAjQ/6X2mmXqow-Q/s1600/download.jpg


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: okie dokie on March 28, 2018, 03:05:39 PM
https://github.com/KomodoPlatform/NotaryNodes/blob/master/proposals/libscott/README.md
Quote
Who am I?
Programmer of 11 years.
Proud to be working with Komodo since 2017.
Specialist in smart contracts, state machines, data structures etc.
What am I doing?
I am the author of two implementations of interledger crypto-conditions, in Haskell and C. I have also done the first integration of Crypto-Conditions into the bitcoin scripting language; for Komodo! This was done with the addition of a script opcode.

I am designing a protocol for cross chain contract settlements (ie to enable chips).

This protocol will open up a wide range of smart contract possibilities, with applications running on Komodo asset-chains. Additionally, the inclusion of Crypto-Conditions into the Komodo network will provide a high degree of connectivity via the rest of the crypto ecosystem, principally via Ripple's InterLedger protocol (ILP). ILP is a cross chain settlement layer for atomic swaps.

In case you are wondering, the key difference between atomic swaps and cross chain contract settlements is that contract settlements are not atomic, they are backed by on-chain code to verify contract states.

Interesting stuff going on behind the scenes. Are there any other candidates who are helping build out chips I should be aware of?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on March 28, 2018, 05:23:52 PM
https://github.com/KomodoPlatform/NotaryNodes/blob/master/proposals/libscott/README.md
Quote
Who am I?
Programmer of 11 years.
Proud to be working with Komodo since 2017.
Specialist in smart contracts, state machines, data structures etc.
What am I doing?
I am the author of two implementations of interledger crypto-conditions, in Haskell and C. I have also done the first integration of Crypto-Conditions into the bitcoin scripting language; for Komodo! This was done with the addition of a script opcode.

I am designing a protocol for cross chain contract settlements (ie to enable chips).

This protocol will open up a wide range of smart contract possibilities, with applications running on Komodo asset-chains. Additionally, the inclusion of Crypto-Conditions into the Komodo network will provide a high degree of connectivity via the rest of the crypto ecosystem, principally via Ripple's InterLedger protocol (ILP). ILP is a cross chain settlement layer for atomic swaps.

In case you are wondering, the key difference between atomic swaps and cross chain contract settlements is that contract settlements are not atomic, they are backed by on-chain code to verify contract states.

Interesting stuff going on behind the scenes. Are there any other candidates who are helping build out chips I should be aware of?
sg777 but you already know about him as he wrote the math paper

what we did in the atomic swap space, we will do in the decentralized betting space, but that is just one use case of the new tech we are making


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on March 29, 2018, 12:17:21 PM
rebased chipsd to bitcoin 0.16
it is in the dev branch


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on March 29, 2018, 01:27:38 PM
rebased chipsd to bitcoin 0.16
it is in the dev branch
it worked fine on a already synced chain, but having some issues syncing from scratch.
investigating


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on March 29, 2018, 02:19:35 PM
rebased chipsd to bitcoin 0.16
it is in the dev branch
it worked fine on a already synced chain, but having some issues syncing from scratch.
investigating
working now, at least got past where it was stuck before
I also added back the "getinfo" rpc call, it just returns what "getblockchaininfo" does but at least anything relying on getinfo wont break


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on March 29, 2018, 03:13:45 PM
and i rebased my lightning repo with the latest lightning


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Acura3600 on April 02, 2018, 08:43:18 AM

I like this project . I learn more about the project and his idea by studying white paper. But even with a superficial introduction to the project there are positive impressions.

Where do you have find the whitepaper ??


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on April 06, 2018, 06:39:48 PM
added dPoW to the rebased CHIPS

also created a getinfo that combines getblockchaininfo, getwalletinfo and getnetworkinfo, along with notarization data

it is in the jl777 branch for now


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: babysocoolll on April 07, 2018, 03:06:31 PM
awesome, I want to join this project too


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: canibalgb on April 09, 2018, 01:25:28 AM
awesome, I want to join this project too

Good choice. Excellent project!


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on April 09, 2018, 09:20:11 AM
crypto conditions code added to CHIPS


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on April 19, 2018, 07:24:47 AM
whitepaper for CHIPS

https://cvcbt18.hotcrp.com/paper/15?cap=015aVU1QHwHKZxU



Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: yassin54 on April 19, 2018, 08:37:42 PM
whitepaper for CHIPS

https://cvcbt18.hotcrp.com/paper/15?cap=015aVU1QHwHKZxU


Thanks Jl777 :)


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: okie dokie on April 21, 2018, 05:34:09 AM
whitepaper for CHIPS

https://cvcbt18.hotcrp.com/paper/15?cap=015aVU1QHwHKZxU


Very impressive.
This seems to be more of a pangea whitepaper then chips whitepaper though.
So, is pangea also chips or just included? It would seem that they are intermingled yet still separate? Maybe im missing it but the exact nature of chips has yet to be revealed.


Quote
Privatebet (BET komodo assetchain) is implementing a generic decentralized gaming platform and will be using CHIPS for the internal ledger of the in-game betting results. However, specific plans are subject to change until it is all finalize


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on April 21, 2018, 08:02:58 AM
whitepaper for CHIPS

https://cvcbt18.hotcrp.com/paper/15?cap=015aVU1QHwHKZxU


Very impressive.
This seems to be more of a pangea whitepaper then chips whitepaper though.
So, is pangea also chips or just included? It would seem that they are intermingled yet still separate? Maybe im missing it but the exact nature of chips has yet to be revealed.


Quote
Privatebet (BET komodo assetchain) is implementing a generic decentralized gaming platform and will be using CHIPS for the internal ledger of the in-game betting results. However, specific plans are subject to change until it is all finalize
CHIPS is the coin
Pangea is the game that uses the coin


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: ivan376 on April 21, 2018, 03:22:20 PM
Is there an active website or an apps that uses chips as its currency? Please share here the link:


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on April 21, 2018, 07:00:40 PM
Is there an active website or an apps that uses chips as its currency? Please share here the link:
we are not marketing CHIPS yet, it is still in development


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: freebit13 on May 04, 2018, 10:49:44 AM
I love poker, and I love poker chips.  I couldn't resist picking these up last month.  Is there a windows wallet yet?  I'd like to safeguard my chips until the first poker game, and I don't believe coinexchange is a good place to store them.
 https://github.com/DeckerSU/chips3/releases/download/v0.14.99_decker_2/chips3_binaries.zip
Is this wallet still ok to use?  It says 'experimenatal use at own risk'.  Just looking to store my CHIPS until the table is full of players  8)
You can use Agama to store your CHIPS: https://komodoplatform.com/komodo-wallets/

You can also use Barterdex to create a CHIPS address and store them there: https://github.com/KomodoPlatform/BarterDEX/releases


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: vietanh991004 on May 05, 2018, 11:36:55 AM
Interesting project. But how will you grow the community with Google and Facebook ban on crypto/ICO advertising?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: okie dokie on May 05, 2018, 04:03:26 PM
I love poker, and I love poker chips.  I couldn't resist picking these up last month.  Is there a windows wallet yet?  I'd like to safeguard my chips until the first poker game, and I don't believe coinexchange is a good place to store them.
 https://github.com/DeckerSU/chips3/releases/download/v0.14.99_decker_2/chips3_binaries.zip
Is this wallet still ok to use?  It says 'experimenatal use at own risk'.  Just looking to store my CHIPS until the table is full of players  8)
You can use Agama to store your CHIPS: https://komodoplatform.com/komodo-wallets/

You can also use Barterdex to create a CHIPS address and store them there: https://github.com/KomodoPlatform/BarterDEX/releases

You can also make a paper wallet using the komodo paper wallet tool, it uses the same address.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Big Naturals on May 05, 2018, 09:17:26 PM
Interesting project. But how will you grow the community with Google and Facebook ban on crypto/ICO advertising?

Google and Facebook have not banned advertising for gambling afaik, if Chips is the token used they only need to advertise the use cases and they avoid the ban, the Chips token doesn't even need to be mentioned, or crypto, just the gambling games offered.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: heova.ga on May 09, 2018, 07:52:04 AM
I hope CHIPS will be released in 2018.
Keep up your hard work!


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Big Naturals on May 09, 2018, 11:06:01 PM
I hope CHIPS will be released in 2018.
Keep up your hard work!

Chips is already released, you can buy and hodl today, we just have to wait for the games to be developed to use it, but they won't be Chips the token, it's already here, That's why getting a stack now is such a great opportunity, they're cheap as chips now, but once the games are released the demand will be huge. Once in a lifetime opportunity for those in the know!


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: heova.ga on May 10, 2018, 07:34:10 AM
I hope CHIPS will be released in 2018.
Keep up your hard work!

Chips is already released, you can buy and hodl today, we just have to wait for the games to be developed to use it, but they won't be Chips the token, it's already here, That's why getting a stack now is such a great opportunity, they're cheap as chips now, but once the games are released the demand will be huge. Once in a lifetime opportunity for those in the know!

This is what exactly I mean. I hope jl777 will release some games this year to help chips be a successful project.
Whatever, I trust him.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: DikoEjik on May 11, 2018, 08:54:55 AM
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Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: curnez88888 on May 18, 2018, 03:20:10 PM
Oh s something wrong with the QT wallet?? i open the wallet for almost 10 minutes ,still 0 actives ,i cann't sync with the network.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: ComputerGenie on May 18, 2018, 03:37:43 PM
Oh s something wrong with the QT wallet?? i open the wallet for almost 10 minutes ,still 0 actives ,i cann't sync with the network.
Working fine here...
Code:
10:36:47

getpeerinfo


10:36:47

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Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jlbaseball11 on May 30, 2018, 01:41:13 AM
Will there ever be masternodes for CHIPS?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on May 30, 2018, 09:06:31 AM
Will there ever be masternodes for CHIPS?
no


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jlbaseball11 on May 31, 2018, 11:01:39 PM
Will there ever be masternodes for CHIPS?
no

Ok, thanks.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: heova.ga on June 05, 2018, 08:20:22 AM
Look like something happened with CE wallet, so the volume of trade on it is zero 😂


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Xj385 on June 05, 2018, 02:45:27 PM
How does CHIPS interact with GAME? Is CHIPS competing with GAME? I am understanding not CHIPS roadmap to the success.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on June 05, 2018, 03:27:23 PM
How does CHIPS interact with GAME? Is CHIPS competing with GAME? I am understanding not CHIPS roadmap to the success.
CHIPS is the realtime transaction component of the overall ecosystem
details will be released when the tech gets into testing


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: n41r0j on June 11, 2018, 03:00:37 PM
CHIPS now has a Discord. Come join us! https://discord.gg/UyVvdV4


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: okie dokie on June 19, 2018, 06:04:44 AM
Finally hit the 20,000,000 coin mark. Based on current hash rate, what is the best guess for when all 21 mil coins are out?
never
I think block reward goes to 0 satoshis before it sums up to 21 million, something about infinite series, but not 100% sure on this.

the more practical question is when does it ready 20.99 million
I leave the answer to this for the reader to solve

Cmc lists the total at 21 mil, even if wrong.

Current total 20991132. Seems like anytime now and this puppy is mined out, if not already.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: jl777B on June 25, 2018, 02:10:05 PM
If you are mining CHIPS, please update to the latest version in the dev branch


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: scorpio18 on July 26, 2018, 09:06:04 PM
If you are mining CHIPS, please update to the latest version in the dev branch

https://pool.coin-miners.info update the wallet to the latest version from the dev branch


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Xj385 on July 28, 2018, 11:05:03 PM
Chips discussion is mostly on Discord from what I can tell.

There are some current bounties as well.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: karl_kauffmann on September 02, 2018, 09:35:23 PM



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Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: True Spartan on September 23, 2018, 12:29:13 AM
CHIPS is available for trade at https://digitalprice.io/order?url=chips-btc incase you were unaware :) Happy Trading!


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: sarat on January 02, 2019, 01:12:46 PM
The usage of CHIPS with LN, in playing real time poker is here. It uses the Pangea protocol for deck shuffling.

For more information please visit here:
https://github.com/sg777/bet/tree/poker


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: soldat13 on January 03, 2019, 10:43:15 AM
https://twitter.com/pangeachips/status/1080653354492145664 (https://twitter.com/pangeachips/status/1080653354492145664)


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: freepool4all on February 03, 2019, 12:43:52 PM
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Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: freepool4all on February 03, 2019, 12:46:36 PM
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addnode=144.217.10.241
addnode=144.217.11.235:57777
addnode=145.239.204.33:57777
addnode=149.202.49.218
addnode=149.56.151.68:57777
addnode=159.69.23.30
addnode=164.132.202.176:57777
addnode=176.9.140.251:57777
addnode=195.154.79.11
addnode=195.201.83.86
addnode=209.58.190.117:57777
addnode=5.9.253.195
addnode=52.65.58.103
addnode=77.95.229.63:57777
addnode=78.47.196.146


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: alevlaslo on April 08, 2019, 09:01:08 AM
what's the point of lightning if Komodo blockchain can process 20,000 transactions per second?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Xj385 on April 23, 2019, 04:22:38 AM
what's the point of lightning if Komodo blockchain can process 20,000 transactions per second?

Komodo is 10 min blocktime. Chips is 10sec.
Lightning, allows real time betting. No waiting 10 minutes or even 10 sec

https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/bg0iza/decentralized_poker_over_lightning_network_is_here/


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: kurbeks on April 23, 2019, 05:08:47 AM
Since when Komodo has 10 min block time?  it's 60 secs - https://support.komodoplatform.com/support/solutions/articles/29000024419-komodo-specifications-kmd-


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: alevlaslo on April 23, 2019, 12:04:37 PM
what are the pros and cons compared to REP Augur?


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: ComputerGenie on April 26, 2019, 02:57:22 PM
what's the point of lightning if Komodo blockchain can process 20,000 transactions per second?
One main "bonus" is that it allows for a group of transactions (all of your betting for an hr, 2 hrs, 2 days, etc) to happen off-chain and less transactions on the chain.


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: crackfoo on April 26, 2019, 03:14:31 PM
Hi,

We've added CHIPS to the miners multipool: https://zpool.ca/algo/sha256

http://zpool.ca/
Fee only: 0.75%
BTC payouts are processed once a day for balances above 0.0025
Payouts for all other currencies are made automatically every 4 hours for balances above 0.05 and balances more than 0.0125 are included in one of the payouts each day.


- Sample configurations -
To mine and get paid in CHIPS:
Code:
-a sha256 -o stratum+tcp://sha256.mine.zpool.ca:3333 -u CHIPS_ADDRESS -p c=CHIPS,zap=CHIPS
Exchange to BTC:
Code:
-a sha256 -o stratum+tcp://sha256.mine.zpool.ca:3333 -u BTC_ADDRESS -p c=BTC
Exchange to BTC but mine only CHIPS:
Code:
-a sha256 -o stratum+tcp://sha256.mine.zpool.ca:3333 -u BTC_ADDRESS -p c=BTC,zap=CHIPS
All of our ports are NiceHash friendly, no need to specify any extra details

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Europe:
Code:
sha256.eu.mine.zpool.ca:3333
South East Asia:
Code:
sha256.sea.mine.zpool.ca:3333
Japan:
Code:
sha256.jp.mine.zpool.ca:3333
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Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: pinpins on May 19, 2019, 05:31:57 AM
http://zergpool.com/yaamp/ui/css/zergpool_small.png 
 You can mine Chips at  autoexchange mining pool Zergpool.com (http://Zergpool.com) at 0.5% fee. Please use following commands for different mining options
 
 Option 1 Auto coin switch by profitability within algorithm with payment to wallet
Code:
 -o stratum+tcp://sha256.mine.zergpool.com:3333 -u <YOURBTCWALLET> -p c=BTC 

 Option 2 Direct coin mining to coin wallet
Code:
 -o stratum+tcp://sha256.mine.zergpool.com:3333 -u <YOURCHIPSWALLET> -p c=CHIPS,mc=CHIPS

 Option 3 Direct coin mining with autoexchange to specified coin wallet
Code:
 -o stratum+tcp://sha256.mine.zergpool.com:3333 -u <YOURBTCWALLET> -p c=BTC,mc=CHIPS

 Please note mc stands for mining coin symbol, c stand for payout coin symbol
 
 Autoexchange to BTC, LTC, DASH, BCH or any other currency we mine
 Happy mining,
  cheers pinpin


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Alcahest on June 10, 2019, 09:18:25 AM
Hello !

I have some chips to sell, where can i do it since there is no volume on coinexchange ?

Thanks !


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: Acura36000 on June 10, 2019, 11:51:16 AM
Hello !

I have some chips to sell, where can i do it since there is no volume on coinexchange ?

Thanks !

Digitalprice Exchange or Barterlly OTC Platform


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: NutellaLicka on October 17, 2019, 08:27:52 AM
I am in the market for some CHIPS. Hit me up in the KMD or CHIPS discord!
CHIPS
https://discord.gg/F7rNe6E
KMD
https://discord.gg/DYp8fx6


Title: Re: [ANN][CHIPS] KMD platform's LN app with realtime betting+decentralized shuffling
Post by: NutellaLicka on October 18, 2019, 02:29:11 AM
For those that aren't aware, most of our activity has migrated onto discord (https://discord.gg/SQCSa2X) Please join us there!

If you missed it, go and have a listen. In an interview with Lootz, I try and explain what CHIPS is, where we are at in the development stage and where we plan to go.
https://soundcloud.com/cryptoradio/chips-a-truly-decentralized-game

Or have a read of the article he wrote on CHIPS
https://cryptocoremedia.com/chips-decentralized-poker-blockchain/

Another article, great work by @gigamesh, who went exploring to find more information about the CHIPS project.
https://www.thedailychain.com/unstoppable-poker-chips-exclusive/