Bitcoin Forum

Economy => Gambling discussion => Topic started by: Darker45 on September 10, 2019, 09:06:16 AM



Title: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Darker45 on September 10, 2019, 09:06:16 AM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/



Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: DeathAngel on September 10, 2019, 09:11:32 AM
Gambling is a worldwide industry, lots of people enjoy gambling. I disagree, I don’t see it as any kind of taboo or terrible thing. People lose money gambling, sure. People win lots too, I don’t feel sorry for people who become addicted to gambling, these kind of people are weak. You are the master of your own life.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: eternalgloom on September 10, 2019, 09:26:15 AM
I don't agree, but maybe that's because I'm not religious.
Personally, I don't think that it's morally wrong to gamble, just because it's baked into our society and gambling in and of itself isn't inherently bad.

It's something that's done for fun and all around the world in different shapes and forms, most people can enjoy it without getting themselves into trouble.
Sure, you could make the argument that you're getting money (if you win), which you haven't worked for, but there are so many ways that people get something without having put in any effort.
That doesn't mean it's wrong...

I'm completely against using religion as a way to tell people what they can or cannot do.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Pmalek on September 10, 2019, 09:36:28 AM
If you are looking at it from a religious point of view, sure, it is morally wrong and you are not allowed to gamble.
The gambling industry is huge and the amount of taxes that it brings in can be used to improve any infrastructure needed. I don't see why a government would be against gambling and spending the taxes that stem from it.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: jossiel on September 10, 2019, 09:38:34 AM
I respect every religion and what they believe as long as it doesn't hurt others. I think it's still widely believed that the money which came from gambling has stains, at least for those people that are not open with innovation and can't accept the fact that we're emerging and the world is changing a lot and gambling is part of it.

Gambling is a big market and if they decide not to accept donations from casino's or any gambling institution it's their choice but at least they should commend their generosity of helping them.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: btc_angela on September 10, 2019, 09:44:30 AM
Personally, I don't see gambling money as dirty. I guess the world as evolved already from this old traditional point of view. Unless you are very religious here, I'm sure everyone doesn't consider it tainted or could be the cause of you committing sins. Gambling today is a business, online or offline so many have sway around that traditional belief already.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Bitinity on September 10, 2019, 09:53:03 AM
If you see see from religious side then it is indeed dirty as I believe most religions does say that gambling as a sin. To be honest I can fully agree about any rules/opinion that says gambling is a sin or even a crime. I can fully see where is the wrong part of gambling as people do it with their own money, risking their own money, losing their own money which means it does not affect any other's life in general.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Naida_BR on September 10, 2019, 10:03:47 AM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/



This is absolutely old-fashioned.
Gambling was something illegal in the past and this is the reason why it is considered Dirty money.
Now the gambling industry has absolutely evolved and it is a healthy industry which makes a lot of people make a living from that.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: shoreno on September 10, 2019, 10:22:58 AM
no its not  . gambling only gains a negative reputation from the public so they think any related to it are also bad  but gambling is not actually like that  if you know how to use it properly  .

 it can give you benefits like enjoyment and profit   .  gambling money is dirty money only if the money used on gambling is came from robery and other crime acts but if it came from your own hardwork , then there is no problem with that  .


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: nakamura12 on September 10, 2019, 10:29:34 AM
One of the reason why some people think that money came from gambling is a dirty money because you don't have to work hard for it where in other situation in earning money is you have to work for it that is why they think money came from gambling is a dirty money.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Kasabus on September 10, 2019, 10:44:16 AM
We just need to be realistic, gambling is not a dirty money as long as it's not illegal in your country.
People wants to have fun and gambling is just one of the ways to have fun, I am a gambler myself and I really have fun when I'm gambling,
Losing is part of the risk, but with proper control, we won't be losing an amount that we cannot afford to lose.

I think people just need to be educated about gambling for them to appreciate it.
Judging and closing our minds about gambling is a bad idea, the government already accepted gambling is a great source of taxes as they have differentiate between legal and illegal gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: DarkDays on September 10, 2019, 10:45:31 AM
The term 'dirty money' is usually reserved for money that has been earned or transferred illegally, such as through gang-activity, drug trafficking, extortion etc. Unless gambling is illegal in your country (and it is in some countries), then money earned or lost in gambling cannot be considered 'dirty money.'


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Haunebu on September 10, 2019, 10:57:24 AM
Completely and utterly disagree. Firstly, money is money at the end of the day and majority of the world population don't care whether is clean or dirty. Money won or lost through gambling is money. Simple!

Our ancestors used to believe in all sorts of stuff which in no way means that the current generation and the future generations need to do the same. This is a free world people.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: mindrust on September 10, 2019, 11:03:33 AM
The only dirty money is the money coming from criminal activities like CP, drugs, terrorism etc.

Gambling is (mostly) legal worldwide so it is not dirty money. Maybe it is in SA but thanks god the rest of the world don't give a fuck about that religious bullshit.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: freedomgo on September 10, 2019, 11:05:46 AM
The term 'dirty money' is usually reserved for money that has been earned or transferred illegally, such as through gang-activity, drug trafficking, extortion etc. Unless gambling is illegal in your country (and it is in some countries), then money earned or lost in gambling cannot be considered 'dirty money.'
Completely agree, gambling cannot be a dirty money if it's accepted in your country.
I know there are religion who prohibits their followers from gambling, maybe we will also consider that but then everyone has different judgement on gambling, if it's based on the definition by law, gambling should be considered illegal first to consider what we earn is a dirty money.

There are countries which ban gambling, especially from muslim countries as it's against in their religion, but in some countries where christians, and other religions are dominant in numbers, gambling is accepted I think.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: peter0425 on September 10, 2019, 11:14:19 AM
You had mentioned Islam in the OP so I assumed that your a Muslim mate?

If does then everything you said is indeed because I have some Muslim friends as well and thy really consider gambling as bad area to profit and consider winning pot are Dirty money

And also you should have mentioned from what country you from because I am curious about the Secretary of education shunned that big amount for books things that for me is not fair because that is for education and not for foods .org medical health


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: qwertyup23 on September 10, 2019, 11:56:48 AM
And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money.

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?


That is also what my brother tells me whenever he wins in casinos or any other bet. What he usually does is that, he spends the money as soon as possible, either he will treat the family or purchase a want rather than a need.
Ever since I got that idea from him, whenever I gamble with my friends and win some cash enough to purchase something or treat anyone, I would quickly spend it as if I do not own the money.

I remember my grandfather telling me that the money you win in gambling is a bad omen, which should be spent as soon as possible. Whether or not their claims are true, I just follow them diligently.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Indamuck on September 10, 2019, 12:19:32 PM
This doesn't really make sense to me because isn't everything in life considered a gamble if you break it down.

If you hold US dollars you are gambling that they won't experience mass inflation and devaluation?

If you hold stocks your gambling that there won't be a huge market crash.

If you hold gold your gambling the price won't crash again.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: acroman08 on September 10, 2019, 12:27:10 PM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/



there is a similar thread about this topic. as I said in that thread it will be different with different people since they have different beliefs.
some will consider gambling money to be dirty and some will not and in my views gambling money is not dirty nor illegal.

here is the thread I was talking about.
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: robelneo on September 10, 2019, 12:28:14 PM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/



I can only speak for my views and will not include any religious views on my opinion, we should accept donation even if it's coming from gambling for the simple reason, it can help alleviate the needs and the sufferings of the people.

Imagine if they did not accept a donation to buy books when those books can help educate people, or decline donation to buy foods when it can help people to satisfy their hunger, we should think logically and with common sense, again this is my opinion.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Sanitough on September 10, 2019, 12:39:18 PM
This doesn't really make sense to me because isn't everything in life considered a gamble if you break it down.

If you hold US dollars you are gambling that they won't experience mass inflation and devaluation?

If you hold stocks your gambling that there won't be a huge market crash.

If you hold gold your gambling the price won't crash again.

That's how you think if you are a smart person, however, we cannot control the way other people's judgement and normally those people who judge you on what you are doing have no idea about gambling and maybe have no idea of taking risk.

When you are even trying to venture into business, you are already gambling or taking risk, but those who are safely employed will judge you because they are living in their comfort zone but judge people who get out and try to risk their money in business they think they will grow financially and as a person.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: ethereumhunter on September 10, 2019, 01:36:50 PM
I think that will be on personal perception because we lived in many countries which have different culture and religion. Maybe that person doesn't want to give food to his family from the gambling, or the church doesn't want to accept donations from gambling. That will be their decision to do that because I think it's related to where we lived. I think it is better to follow what they want and don't against them because that will be a long debate which will waste our time without we can find an agreement between us. Let's them like that, and we can choose where we want to give the money, and we should respect their decision.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: DoublerHunter on September 10, 2019, 01:48:59 PM
We have different perception regarding gambling and every one of us had a different belief. This is a long debate but if you are going to ask my opinion I did not consider that money that come from gambling is dirty. No is not, and gambling is not a crime. The dirty money that I have ever known are those came from serious crime. That is totally dirty, and there is no reason they did not accept if the donation comes from gambling besides there are many gambling companies that they have their own charity program.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: carter34 on September 10, 2019, 01:52:59 PM
Maybe by biblical point of view. Looking at when Jesus Christ scattered the gambling table in the synagogue and the Christian faith then sees it as what is not right for a Christian to do.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: tvplus006 on September 10, 2019, 02:20:20 PM
And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money.
I think that even dirty money can serve for a good deed. And I would not say that gambling is dirty money. Otherwise, gambling was banned everywhere and online too.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: jhonjhon on September 10, 2019, 02:50:33 PM
Gambling money for me isn’t a dirty money, after all it’s hard earned money that gamblers use when gambling but what made it dirty or a bad thing is because of those who can’t control themselves and ended up being addicted to gambling and lose almost everything. Gambling has both advantages and disadvantages like any other things, some may find gambling as a way to relieve from stress, to have fun and forget their worries or problems even for a short time. Some may gamble to make money because it’s the only way for them to a better life. However, gambling isn’t as simple as we think it is, it has the capability to control people mostly weak ones without them realizing it.
When you enter gambling there is a big risk that you’ll become addicted if you don’t have strong self control, thus, if you think you can’t control yourself then better not gamble.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: fortunecrypto on September 10, 2019, 02:51:45 PM
I don't consider gambling money as dirty money and that's also the views of our government, in fact here in our country our casinos sponsored a lot of charitable institutions, hospitals and people who are in need, the government is working to get funds to support institutions and people and they have to use casino tax to meet it.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: xSkylarx on September 10, 2019, 02:53:33 PM
It is only considered as dirty money if it came from illegal way like money laundering. But gambling legally like in casinos, it helps that country's economy in some way like in our country, a percentage of our lottery's profit helps the poor from their hospital bills.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Bttzed03 on September 10, 2019, 02:56:18 PM
The argument is that you are taking someone else's money (if you win). In gambling, it is not something like you're stealing other people's money. The other party agrees to pay if they lose their bet. I don't think there's something wrong with that if you won fairly. When it comes to remittances to the government, I don't see any difference with taxes coming from other businesses and those coming from casinos or lotteries.
  

I can only speak for my views and will not include any religious views on my opinion, we should accept donation even if it's coming from gambling for the simple reason, it can help alleviate the needs and the sufferings of the people.
Just a silly question. What if the beneficiary was also a gambler whose losses contributed to the funds where donation is coming from?


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: coin-investor on September 10, 2019, 03:03:21 PM


And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?


That secretary should be fired, that funds will help a lot of people who need money to buy books to educate young people, I wonder what country is that he has no control on the budget where it will come from the decision is on the president of the senate or the president of the country.

The government needs the money and especially if that government is not a very rich country and cannot support some of the things is people needs, we should be logical on this, but this is different if the country is being governed by religious practice.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: rachman mahesa on September 10, 2019, 03:21:35 PM
I realized that was indeed wrong. If we look at it from the perspective of each religion, how is gambling wrong and it shouldn't be done. But, if we look at it from a Hobby's point of view, I think it's OK.

Sometimes the circumstances that make us have to force this, If people can only get money from gambling, how? Do we have to ban the person.

So, in this case all future risks and sins are borne by each person. it is someone's decision and right.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: jrrsparkles on September 10, 2019, 03:28:27 PM
Truth is no one will deny that money no matter if its from clean hands or dirty hands.

If some religion forbids some activity we need to research why it happened,if we dig deep the reason is to stop mass people from getting addicted to it and people will only hear if there is some religion bind with it.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: tsaroz on September 10, 2019, 03:29:13 PM
Most of the things you do for money are gambling in one sense or other. Every business you do have risks involved. Generally higher the risks, higher is your potential profit. Things like insurance decreases the risks you take but also decreases your overall profit.
Illegal money is dirty money. Wining on gambling is a fair way to earn your money.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: dothebeats on September 10, 2019, 03:40:19 PM
Perhaps on Islam countries, this would be deemed as dirty money, but when it comes to the rest of the world, gambling money is perfectly fine as long as it's not used in crime or to launder money in any way. People and especially countries have their own moral viewpoint on gambling. For one, it helps create jobs and boost the economy, so why would they say no to something that could literally help them in the long run?


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: romero121 on September 10, 2019, 03:49:56 PM
This is upto each and every individual users mind, because there are people who have their life completely dependent on the money earned out of gambling. From my view even if someone got lucky to win a lottery, will they not make use of it. So, if we think it is dirty money then it is dirty.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: milewilda on September 10, 2019, 04:37:12 PM

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?

Doesnt agree with this but since this is part of Muslims views then i do respect it but overall it doesnt really mind too much on caring about on where those money came from.
Basing on the situation given above on of that Education secretary using up those funds on buying books and building classrooms then i dont see anything wrong with it.
Just to think on where those funds been used for.Lots of children will benefit it and thats what matter the most and i would definitely do the same and not minding that kind of
religious belief.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: thisappointed on September 10, 2019, 04:44:06 PM
Gambling is a worldwide industry, lots of people enjoy gambling. I disagree, I don’t see it as any kind of taboo or terrible thing. People lose money gambling, sure. People win lots too, I don’t feel sorry for people who become addicted to gambling, these kind of people are weak. You are the master of your own life.

Islam and other religions, especially Christians have their own belief about this, maybe you don't believe that it is some kind of taboo or whatever do you think it is but we share different worlds when it comes to religion, it just looks like you are not a dude who believes in God, I assume, though I understand your point. They are just respecting what God's says in the Bible, including gambling is a sin and illegal, even the Government is against gambling, but they are making an exception when they do have permits, which is funny because that only proves that they can be bought by money.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: jrrsparkles on September 10, 2019, 05:02:43 PM
but they are making an exception when they do have permits, which is funny because that only proves that they can be bought by money.

Anything in this world can be bought legally or illegally,even if you want to hide some part of words in religious books it can be done and future genearations might not know what happened in the past.

When someone doing gambling for addiction then there is no argue against that he need to be stop that but demanding everyone to stop just because people were addicted to it seems unfair.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: agustina2 on September 10, 2019, 05:21:46 PM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/



Greed is the root cause of why you gamble in the first place. So the gambling money you won is indeed dirty if your intention or mindset is dirty as well. When you force yourself to do gambling just because you want to earn more and you lack contentment with what you currently earn, then, in my honest and personal opinion, it becomes bad.

Simply put it this way. Consider your family or friends' belief about this and weigh it with what you believe. If you happen to be guilty in using your gambling money to provide for the people you love and care the most, then you can say that gambling money is indeed dirty. It's really just a matter of your own moral as a person.

 


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Juggy777 on September 10, 2019, 05:22:21 PM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/



I completely disagree with this notion that Gambling is dirty money, we gamblers don’t steal money and play with it rather we play using our hard earned savings. Religion beliefs are not always right and people should not follow them blindly, they should use logic and then make an opinion about it.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: avikz on September 10, 2019, 05:28:14 PM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?


I understand it's your personal view and I respect that fact! However, we all are individuals and our thought processes are different. We all grew up with different opinions around us and when we attained a certain age, we started seeing the world as per our own views and opinions. I too grew up in a very conservative family where gambling is seen as negative thing to be involved with! But as per my own views, I see gambling as just another business! A lot of people don't like Alcohol or Tobacco business but these businesses are one of the highest tax paying businesses! So every thing has its own pros and cons. It's up to us to decide for ourselves whether we want to involve with it or not!

I don't consider your view as an old-fashioned one! But neither I consider gambling as an evil business! It's just another legal form of business which provide employment to a lot of people. I had actually done some research on the positive effects of gambling business on the economy of a country and I would definitely want you to read that,

How gambling can effect the economy of a country [Part 1 - USA]
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4308093.0

How gambling can effect the economy of a country [Part 2 - Macau]
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4324507.0  


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: audaciousbeing on September 10, 2019, 05:35:04 PM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/



The view is not of your mum alone because it cuts across every spheres of human endeavours and the reason is not far fetched which was what was obtainable in the past as at when they were growing up. People who engage in gambling at the time are seen as social menace who are people that are lazy and decide to see gambling as a quick way to get rich and we have seen people also use the route as a means to launder their ill gotten wealth.

Truth be told, even in today's dispensation, there have been argument and release of "dirty money" finding its way into gambling but its not as profound as its being said because today we have the KYC being applied to gambling whether online or offline where gambling sites are made to comply with.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: jhongzjhong on September 10, 2019, 05:49:50 PM
I have checked all replies I saw that the majority are saying that the money you have earned in gambling is not dirty money. Literarily yes, that is clean because I don't think gambling money is dirty money, but if gambling is illegal in your country maybe that is dirty. Well, unlike stealing or robbing that is illegal. As long as it is not against the law you can't call it dirty. Unless if you are not playing fair but if it's a fair play or game then, it should be clean money.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Chrystora123 on September 10, 2019, 05:53:33 PM
One thing we need to know is that gambling is not a sin, in the Bible and the Qur'an it is not written that gambling is a sin.

if it's not a sin why is it prohibited?? it refers to the impact made before or after playing gambling

stealing money to play gambling (stealing is a sin)
committing adultery after winning a gamble (adultery is a sin)
lying to your family for losing gambling (lying is a sin)
kill someone for being offended at the gambling table (killing is a sin)

why a lot of crime related to gambling arises in poor countries because they force themselves to play gambling with a low economy.

personally I think.. as long as you don't steal, don't cheat and hurt people while gambling then the money isn't dirty money and a sin.



Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: rosezionjohn on September 10, 2019, 05:58:14 PM
Money can be considered as "dirty" for me if it was acquired thru illegal means or thru cheating/fraud. In the case of gambling, winning fair and square should be "clean" and as long as gambling/betting is done legally.


When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling.
How did this debate ended?  :D


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Reatim on September 10, 2019, 06:22:34 PM
If your religious prohibited gambling then everything that comes from this are dirty considerably..just like in Islam in which I believe gambling is a sin(if you are a Muslim you should know this)

Same as in Catholic or some Christian religion when they are saying that Gambling is a sin but they are accepting money came from gambling institutions and donations from gambler itself

One thing we need to know is that gambling is not a sin, in the Bible and the Qur'an it is not written that gambling is a sin.

if it's not a sin why is it prohibited?? it refers to the impact made before or after playing gambling

stealing money to play gambling (stealing is a sin)
committing adultery after winning a gamble (adultery is a sin)
lying to your family for losing gambling (lying is a sin)
kill someone for being offended at the gambling table (killing is a sin)

To make story short if people don’t gamble they may not commit those sin so still gambling is sin.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: iamsheikhadil on September 10, 2019, 06:46:05 PM
Even though I'm not religious, gambling money is actually not equal to money you have worked hard to earn. You can win $100 easily. But takes a lot of hard work to earn $100. When you work hard to earn that money, you will protect it with love and will use it wisely. However, free money means you will be careless and hence, money earnt from gambling does no good to you as you end up busting it or using it for meaningless purpose. Remember, when you are winning, you are taking someone else's money. It can be the casino owners or of players who are losing. And how can you be happy with a money that results in the loss of money to someone else ? ;)


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: dunfida on September 10, 2019, 08:45:14 PM
Even though I'm not religious, gambling money is actually not equal to money you have worked hard to earn. You can win $100 easily. But takes a lot of hard work to earn $100. When you work hard to earn that money, you will protect it with love and will use it wisely. However, free money means you will be careless and hence, money earnt from gambling does no good to you as you end up busting it or using it for meaningless purpose. Remember, when you are winning, you are taking someone else's money. It can be the casino owners or of players who are losing. And how can you be happy with a money that results in the loss of money to someone else ? ;)
No one does become a saint when it comes to money where everyone wont really care at all anymore as long they would able to gain it
by all means.Im not that kind of harsh person but thats the reality of this world where anyone do cares just to earn no matter what way
or method it is.Gambling money can be considered legal or illegal depending on how did you obtained it but as well know we did risk something
and luckily we won.We cant say not to be happy because you took out others money.How about on asking reversibly? For sure you wont say the same thing.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: leowonderful on September 10, 2019, 09:02:27 PM
I'm not religious either, nor are any members of my family, though most people in my family are still against gambling, though I still gamble and I don't see anything wrong with it, and as Avikz mentioned, there's actually positive economic benefits that can be indirectly or directly attributed to profits from gambling, though not in all cases. Calling money from gambling 'dirty' is therefore a pretty old-fashioned view on things in my eyes, and the only funds I would really call dirty would be funds obtained through illegal activites such as fraud.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: BabyBoss on September 10, 2019, 10:09:10 PM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/



Gambling money is dirty because its all from people who only wants to have a instant money.Gamblers are greedy to win in every game. But there are lots in crypto who are rich people to multiply more their wealth because in crypto you can easily get big money depends on the value of the market.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: AmoreJaz on September 10, 2019, 10:20:48 PM
Even though I'm not religious, gambling money is actually not equal to money you have worked hard to earn. You can win $100 easily. But takes a lot of hard work to earn $100. When you work hard to earn that money, you will protect it with love and will use it wisely. However, free money means you will be careless and hence, money earnt from gambling does no good to you as you end up busting it or using it for meaningless purpose. Remember, when you are winning, you are taking someone else's money. It can be the casino owners or of players who are losing. And how can you be happy with a money that results in the loss of money to someone else ? ;)
No one does become a saint when it comes to money where everyone wont really care at all anymore as long they would able to gain it
by all means.Im not that kind of harsh person but thats the reality of this world where anyone do cares just to earn no matter what way
or method it is.Gambling money can be considered legal or illegal depending on how did you obtained it but as well know we did risk something
and luckily we won.We cant say not to be happy because you took out others money.How about on asking reversibly? For sure you wont say the same thing.

yes, how about the losses that you incurred from playing? the casino or other people dont care about your losses no matter how much.
i think you are being hypocrite with yourself if you are not happy after your winnings.  casino cares about how much they can rip off, they really dont care much about the players' losses.
if they are considering gambling money is dirty money the reason why they cant accept it. i guess because they dont want to be the talk of the town or the subject of gossip. but if people will not know the sources, more then likely they will openly accept that money. money is money, right?


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Yamifoud on September 10, 2019, 10:24:52 PM
...snipped...

Gambling money is dirty because its all from people who only wants to have a instant money.Gamblers are greedy to win in every game. But there are lots in crypto who are rich people to multiply more their wealth because in crypto you can easily get big money depends on the value of the market.
In some religious group, we could say gambling is a dirty game and have also they think that money coming from gambling is also dirty.
It all be different from my sees, not actually it become dirty if you never indulge in illegalities happen in gambling. You have earned it hard and play it fairly.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Hippocrypto on September 10, 2019, 10:28:56 PM
Gambling won't be dirty if you've played it fairly without doing any cheating, it can only definitely be dirty once you're taking beyond it's advantages. Most gamblers in the real world of physical money, had a mindset that gamblers who initiate huge wins was seriously taking hidden strategies that eventually losses their opponent.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: rodel caling on September 10, 2019, 11:05:54 PM
Of you include the church of course money from the gambling saying is a dirty because churches teach or preach gambling is sin according from the bible and that is true, but for me depends on how people treat gambling theirs lives if they gambling as for just having I can't seen have an sin playing in gambling specially today a new era of people. So difficult and hard yo discuss between churh and bussiness.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Natalim on September 10, 2019, 11:09:39 PM
Gambling is already accepted nowadays, they even expand in the internet which is becoming a billion dollar business.
If people in general sees gambling a bad activity or a dirty money, the gambling industry would not grow.

Sure there are people who ruined their lives because of gambling, but that cannot be blame on gambling because no one forces us to gamble.
What forces us is only ourselves and we let our life ruined by gambling because of our stupidity and our greediness that we convince ourselves to make an easy money in gambling which is the opposite of the reality.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: seoincorporation on September 10, 2019, 11:26:39 PM
Gambling won't be dirty if you've played it fairly without doing any cheating, it can only definitely be dirty once you're taking beyond it's advantages. Most gamblers in the real world of physical money, had a mindset that gamblers who initiate huge wins was seriously taking hidden strategies that eventually losses their opponent.

Isn't about the way you gamble that money, is about the source of the money used for gambling. Some people use casinos as a way of money laundering, because if you have a big bankroll from a scam or from theft, then you can join to a casino a chase big multipliers with low chance to get them, and each time you hit one of those 'Jackpots' then the money gets justified.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Janation on September 10, 2019, 11:28:04 PM
Are we still lingering in this idea until now?

Ok, let's say I am a gambler, a huge gambler and I am earning millions and millions of dollars out of it. If people don't know there are tournaments of poker and the winner are getting millions out of it.

I won that and got the million prize pot, I want to help a charity and they are not accepting it since I am a gambler, how would you feel? I am a gambler but I earn that money not because I am putting all of my money in it every day, I won because I am a talented and skilled gambler that won a tournament, that is a sign  I am one of the best and that is a prize of mine for that.

Doesn't mean I am gambling, it means that is dirty money. It is in the people how will they treat that money since even if that money comes out of gambling, it is still money and it can still do the same thing as the money earned out of working. It will still feed people, it will still help social workers and it will still build a infrastructure that will help people.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Questat on September 10, 2019, 11:59:50 PM
Gambling won't be dirty if you've played it fairly without doing any cheating, it can only definitely be dirty once you're taking beyond it's advantages. Most gamblers in the real world of physical money, had a mindset that gamblers who initiate huge wins was seriously taking hidden strategies that eventually losses their opponent.

Isn't about the way you gamble that money, is about the source of the money used for gambling. Some people use casinos as a way of money laundering, because if you have a big bankroll from a scam or from theft, then you can join to a casino a chase big multipliers with low chance to get them, and each time you hit one of those 'Jackpots' then the money gets justified.

That's not dirty anymore since you were able to launder it successfully, that's life, we have different ways to making money, whether illegal or not but it's the government job to get their people and punish. In general, I don't see gambling money a dirty money, like every business or services, there are legal and illegal, so this one, illegal money are dirty money but I don't really care as even the government are corrupt, they also get a lot of dirty money for their personal interest.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: NavI_027 on September 11, 2019, 12:09:50 AM
[snip]
Before anything else, It seems that you came from a family with good family orientation so I wonder what would be their reaction if they find out you're roaming around here in the gambling discussion? They most probably get mad at you, be careful ;D.

Going back to the topic. No doubt that gambling is morally bad but as time goes by it was slowly accepted by our society. Some people prefer to not call it gambling but sort of a form of entertainment ;D. For me money coming from such thing is not a dirty money at all because you can also earn it through hardwork, luck and strategy which is not totally different from the typical kind of labor. Maybe we can say that you're already crossing the borderline if you are playing games that are not government- run or at least legally approved in your country (e.g jueteng, video karera etc.)


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: fortunecrypto on September 11, 2019, 01:42:09 AM
[snip]
Before anything else, It seems that you came from a family with good family orientation so I wonder what would be their reaction if they find out you're roaming around here in the gambling discussion? They most probably get mad at you, be careful ;D.

Going back to the topic. No doubt that gambling is morally bad but as time goes by it was slowly accepted by our society. Some people prefer to not call it gambling but sort of a form of entertainment ;D. For me money coming from such thing is not a dirty money at all because you can also earn it through hardwork, luck and strategy which is not totally different from the typical kind of labor. Maybe we can say that you're already crossing the borderline if you are playing games that are not government- run or at least legally approved in your country (e.g jueteng, video karera etc.)

Yes, I agree time is changing and government and people should be practical but of course I do not disagree if the government is run by a religious belief then he should impose it, I agree that gambling has a new name now which is entertainment and big casinos should be for rich people who can afford to throw money.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: mich on September 11, 2019, 02:38:44 AM
To define 'dirty money' is money obtained unlawfully or immorally.
When I think of 'dirty money' I am thinking about money obtained by doing something illegal or harming a person maybe even drugs
Since gambling is legal where I am from I can not consider it dirty
Like your examples I know of people who feed his family from playing cards- how is this dirty money if he does nothing wrong


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: aioc on September 11, 2019, 02:57:45 AM
People treating gambling money as dirty has a high ethical and religious value and we should not blame them for not being practical, it's about values and being practical, you have to choose between the two, and since I'm not a very religious person, I prefer being practical.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Darker45 on September 11, 2019, 03:41:38 AM
I've made this thread to gather your thoughts on these views which I experienced first hand within my richly multicultural and highly sectarian country. I've enjoyed reading all your reactions and ideas.

I have to point out though that [1.] I do not necessarily share this view; [2.] I am not a Muslim; [3.] I am a gambler, although small time and for fun. I gamble on both physical sports and esports. I play dice. I used to play roulette. I played a lot of card games including poker. I gamble on heads or tails when the teacher is out. I bet on the next right answer on a quiz. I bet on spider and cockfighting. I gamble in wakes. I bet on the digits printed on our fiat bills. I bet on lottery combinations. The list goes on; [4.] Money to me is neither clean nor dirty. Neither is it good nor evil. Although perhaps originally designed to be of proper use and for human convenience in trade, at most, it is a neutral tool that could possibly help or hinder, cure or hurt, or even give or take a life. [5.] Ideas, beliefs, cultures, traditions, etc. are constantly evolving. So is gambling, and perhaps how it is viewed by a society.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: michellee on September 11, 2019, 04:11:33 AM
People treating gambling money as dirty has a high ethical and religious value and we should not blame them for not being practical, it's about values and being practical, you have to choose between the two, and since I'm not a very religious person, I prefer being practical.

Maybe it's because some people are using gambling to make money. Not because they don't know that gambling was prohibited in their religion, but maybe they use gambling as a way to get fun. Maybe someday, they will realize, and they will leave gambling forever.

Maybe we can treat gambling as it's way and not use gambling as a source income. People will still play gambling no matter it's prohibited in their religion, but there will always some people who can accept that gambling is a way of having fun and get entertain.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Ararbermas on September 11, 2019, 04:59:04 AM
Yes i agree that money from gambling is dirty but for me in my opinion it depends. wherein if it's illegal on our country then we can call it a dirty money. But if it's not ,probably it will be a clean money that we earned from it.  Because i believe not all money on gambling are dirty and it always depends if it's prohibited and illegal in our country.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: jakoylantern on September 11, 2019, 05:48:28 AM
Yes i agree that money from gambling is dirty but for me in my opinion it depends. wherein if it's illegal on our country then we can call it a dirty money. But if it's not ,probably it will be a clean money that we earned from it.  Because i believe not all money on gambling are dirty and it always depends if it's prohibited and illegal in our country.
Yes, I agree with what you have said because it depends on the country if they prohibited gambling. Different states have different laws and jurisdiction so if gambling is legal to your country and the site or casino is has a permit to operate it's legitimate legal but if not its definitely illegal and vice versa.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: freedomgo on September 11, 2019, 06:12:18 AM
Yes i agree that money from gambling is dirty but for me in my opinion it depends. wherein if it's illegal on our country then we can call it a dirty money. But if it's not ,probably it will be a clean money that we earned from it.  Because i believe not all money on gambling are dirty and it always depends if it's prohibited and illegal in our country.
For me, it doesn't matter when it's coming as long as I earn money from gambling, which until now I don't have the success in doing it yet.
Earning money in gambling is hard because most of us are losers, that's why some are just discouraging us that gambling is a dirty money so we will not play anymore.

The operators in gambling will always be a winner in the end and they are into a profitable industry, so if you will ask them if they are earning dirty money, they won't mind it because it's still the same money with the same value, as long as we are safe in what we are doing, lets just enjoy the money we earn, whether it's coming from gambling or other unusual method of earning money.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: witcher_sense on September 11, 2019, 06:18:08 AM
The old-fashioned view will always be the same, gambling money is dirty money, nothing can be changed here. Parents or older relatives often do not believe that money can be earned online, you do not need to go to full-time work and sit in the office for days. Only hard physical work will bring you money, at least they think so. This is the difference between the views of the old and new generations. I do not argue that the older generation can teach you a lot, but not in the case of making money online. In this case, it is better to think in your own way, not to listen to other people's advice and also not to follow them.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: BitcoinHunt3r on September 11, 2019, 06:34:51 AM
I can't resist if gambling is a something that can considered as a sin. Maybe that is why it is prohibited by government from a lot of countries. But i still play it. Sometime for me, gambling is when you play it and bet with money. But if play only for fun maybe like in web game like facebook game that allow us to play poker, i not think if that is gambling because not use our real money.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: rachman mahesa on September 11, 2019, 10:28:54 AM
I can't resist if gambling is a something that can considered as a sin. Maybe that is why it is prohibited by government from a lot of countries. But i still play it. Sometime for me, gambling is when you play it and bet with money. But if play only for fun maybe like in web game like facebook game that allow us to play poker, i not think if that is gambling because not use our real money.

Facebook games like poker that you say can be categorized as Gambling. If the chips / balances in the game are traded, then that can be said to be gambling. Indeed gambling is prohibited a lot, but I personally also still play. This is my choice, and therefore I will not stop playing gambling. Although it is said gambling is dirty money.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Theb on September 11, 2019, 10:45:46 AM
That's what you get if you mix cultures, religions, and politics as well as media you will will basically get a lot of different opinions on one kind of matter depending on what kind of belief they grow up in. This is how like alcohol started bad for the United States but it ended up being legal when time passes, now they have marijuana to considere being legal in the whole nation not only the states. What I'm trying to say is as long as the people have an open mind and you don't let the beliefs you have grew up with cloud your judgement your first impressions would change for the better.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: vintages on September 11, 2019, 10:50:08 AM
Not because of religion or anything related to it but I feel most people tend to frown at gambling because of the bad effect it brings.
Most time, just like in the case of gamers, many gamblers slope in addiction which in turn brings so many negative behaviour.
There have been cases of gamblers stealing or using important funds just to get the fund to gamble. Also, some gamblers, totally depend on gambling as a source of income without doing any other business which is not suppose to be so.
I love to read gambling stories online from people who are once addicted just to know what others are passing through.
If gamblers know when to stop and put themselves in check, people won't be classifying it as 'dirty money'.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Indamuck on September 11, 2019, 11:19:58 AM
I have been seeing a lot more gambling ads recently.  A lot on facebook when I was using their marketplace and a lot on my Amazon Fire Tablet.  Nearly every time I turn my tablet on the first page is a gambling ad for virtual slot machines or some other game.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: mitchr4 on September 11, 2019, 02:22:41 PM
I can't resist if gambling is a something that can considered as a sin. Maybe that is why it is prohibited by government from a lot of countries. But i still play it. Sometime for me, gambling is when you play it and bet with money. But if play only for fun maybe like in web game like facebook game that allow us to play poker, i not think if that is gambling because not use our real money.

Facebook games like poker that you say can be categorized as Gambling. If the chips / balances in the game are traded, then that can be said to be gambling. Indeed gambling is prohibited a lot, but I personally also still play. This is my choice, and therefore I will not stop playing gambling. Although it is said gambling is dirty money.
I have not heard that playing fun is prohibited but in my opinion, playing fun or using real money still classified make dirty money because they play gambling games. Whatever betting game is still considered a sin. Also, I'm not really sure if there are people who keep playing fun there must be a desire to use real money to bet with other people.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: milewilda on September 11, 2019, 02:48:52 PM
To define 'dirty money' is money obtained unlawfully or immorally.
When I think of 'dirty money' I am thinking about money obtained by doing something illegal or harming a person maybe even drugs
Since gambling is legal where I am from I can not consider it dirty
Like your examples I know of people who feed his family from playing cards- how is this dirty money if he does nothing wrong

Dirty money can be classified indirectly and as mentioned it do pertains with religion.It might not be a serious matter on most religion but other
do consider this as a sin so therefore any money that being generated or earned by means of gambling will be considered dirty
We have seen that there are people who do make a living with gambling and i agree on what you said that money that havent been obtained by means of
illegal aspect cant be considered dirty.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: jake zyrus on September 11, 2019, 02:58:19 PM
Besides from Muslims since gambling is not allowed, I don't see it right to be called dirty money. When we say gambling to random people, most would think of it as a bad thing because of stereotype. But for me, as long as it isn't coming from illegal gambling, then it's fine. They gamble for fun, or with the purpose of doubling their money, and I don't see it as something bad as long as they don't oppress someone. Not all gamblers are bad. And not all gambling are illegal. It's just a matter of how people perceive gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Question123 on September 11, 2019, 04:17:41 PM
Depends on their beliefs because even it is dirty money it still money and we can buy needs because of money. I respect their decision about that but we have different person and that means different believe.  Maybe for others gambling is dirty money but for the others it is still a money because they use it for their everyday lives.  Im not a perfect person so I don't have rights for them of what they belief.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: peter0425 on September 11, 2019, 06:08:34 PM
To define 'dirty money' is money obtained unlawfully or immorally.
When I think of 'dirty money' I am thinking about money obtained by doing something illegal or harming a person maybe even drugs
Since gambling is legal where I am from I can not consider it dirty
Like your examples I know of people who feed his family from playing cards- how is this dirty money if he does nothing wrong

But OP also mentioned Islam in which I think he’s Religion and since it was forbidden from Muslim then it become Dirty money.no matter how good we deal with gambling yet it will be a Negative as not allowed by their religion and that’s the sad reality
Also there are countries that treat gambling as illegal activities so this also applied to the people live in those countries


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: The Cryptovator on September 11, 2019, 06:42:32 PM
There so many religion on the world and every religion have their own faith and rules. Personally I don't hate any religion even that's no mine. I believe so many religion believe gambling is a dirty way to earn money. Money can't be dirty but the earning way could be dirty. I respect them also who had not received money from gambling. Because everyone should respect at least his own religion. So I don't think we should make argue about that.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: South Park on September 11, 2019, 07:50:20 PM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/


I can understand why people still hold those beliefs about gambling, as we know a person that is addicted to gambling can lose everything very quickly but they are a very small portion of all of those that gamble, and it could be argued that those that are addicted to gambling could have gotten addicted to something else and still lose their money even if gambling was forbidden, so while I respect those that have those views I do not have any problem with someone that gambles for fun.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Vispilio on September 11, 2019, 07:55:30 PM
This doesn't really make sense to me because isn't everything in life considered a gamble if you break it down.

If you hold US dollars you are gambling that they won't experience mass inflation and devaluation?

If you hold stocks your gambling that there won't be a huge market crash.

If you hold gold your gambling the price won't crash again.

This is a pretty smart way of looking at it, as long as an individual understands that in most games against the house, he has a negative edge,

he should be free to exercise his free will. The political interpretations of Islam has unfortunately turned it into a medieval tool of control,

drastically limiting freedom of thought and action (whereas it's essentially a very personal religion, and can be very liberal),

hence the extremely backwards state of all nations that adopt Islam as their state's official religion...


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: btc-facebook on September 12, 2019, 12:52:24 AM
everyone has their own opinions, we must respect that, and I also value your opinion about gambling, as long as there is no offending element,
but I'm sure gambling is not the right reason to make money, because gambling only makes us lose, and it's different from gambling owners, it will be profitable no matter what the method or form.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: samputin on September 12, 2019, 01:36:26 AM
If you are looking at it from a religious point of view, sure, it is morally wrong and you are not allowed to gamble.
It really is just a matter of point of view. Religiously speaking, yes, it's a sin. But on the other hand, I don't see it as a way of earning dirty money. 'Dirty money', for me, is something gained from an unjust way like corruption, or other illegal activities.

In gambling, a person still somehow worked hard for it. I mean, he could've stayed long hours analysing the strategies that would and wouldn't work for him. As long as the money that he used to gamble is from his own pocket, then there's nothing wrong with it.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: michellee on September 12, 2019, 03:03:31 AM
everyone has their own opinions, we must respect that, and I also value your opinion about gambling, as long as there is no offending element,
but I'm sure gambling is not the right reason to make money, because gambling only makes us lose, and it's different from gambling owners, it will be profitable no matter what the method or form.

Maybe we can agree that gambling is a part to enjoy life although some people will not agree with this. But yes, we have a different opinion about gambling itself, and we hope that everyone should respect others opinion.

As long as we can positioning ourselves in the right thing, I think we can choose whatever we want. And to gamble or not will be your option because we can feel what the best for us and we need to prevent the wrong thing that is not good for us. I agree that gambling is not a way to make money, and we need to know that.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: libert19 on September 12, 2019, 03:26:17 AM
I do not consider it as a dirty money but I do think gambling makes your mind kind of null and you don't get anything worthy from it. So better is to leave it, than arguing about it.

Although, I sometimes gamble for entertainment, if i win then good, I would withdraw the capital and play with winnings, which I would lose sooner. So, I only withdrew my own money and not 'gambling money'.

If I lose I had lost it at the moment i brought it to the casino, no attachment.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Janation on September 12, 2019, 05:31:48 AM
To define 'dirty money' is money obtained unlawfully or immorally.
When I think of 'dirty money' I am thinking about money obtained by doing something illegal or harming a person maybe even drugs
Since gambling is legal where I am from I can not consider it dirty
Like your examples I know of people who feed his family from playing cards- how is this dirty money if he does nothing wrong

But OP also mentioned Islam in which I think he’s Religion and since it was forbidden from Muslim then it become Dirty money.no matter how good we deal with gambling yet it will be a Negative as not allowed by their religion and that’s the sad reality
Also there are countries that treat gambling as illegal activities so this also applied to the people live in those countries

Obviously, what the OP is saying is not dirty money.

If we will be talking about a money that did not comes out of something without doing wrong, then that is not money.

Dirty money is out of hand since he already defined what that is.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: leea-1334 on September 12, 2019, 05:58:10 AM

But OP also mentioned Islam in which I think he’s Religion and since it was forbidden from Muslim then it become Dirty money.no matter how good we deal with gambling yet it will be a Negative as not allowed by their religion and that’s the sad reality
Also there are countries that treat gambling as illegal activities so this also applied to the people live in those countries

It is about intent I always say as I understand and learn. And yes, strictly speaking this means as long as the income is from gambling even in a small way, then it is not possible for them to use it in a clean way.

But this is all personal matter to me, the state should not meddle when the state gambles with the economy all the time!


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: lixer on September 12, 2019, 06:26:18 AM
I completely disagree with this notion that Gambling is dirty money, we gamblers don’t steal money and play with it rather we play using our hard earned savings. Religion beliefs are not always right and people should not follow them blindly, they should use logic and then make an opinion about it.
I don’t think these has anything to do with religious belief but rather morals because ideally we all know that any profit we make is gotten from some else’s loss. I may be gambling and feel there’s nothing bad with it but deep down I understand this aspect.

Some weeks back I won some money on a casino site, I was really happy and on my way home, I met a friend in a public transport. He looked very down and when I asked him what the problem was, he explained to me how he lost so much money on a gambling site, it was even more than what I gained, and apparently, I won mine from his loss, I felt ashamed to even tell him about my win and deep down I felt guilty. Money from gambling is dirty, whether we agree with it or not.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: panjul07 on September 12, 2019, 07:28:41 AM
Pro Contra about gambling does exist and it will stay like this forever, we have our own opinion about gambling as well as other opinion that is the opposite to our own opinion. We do need to respect each other opinions only, we should not force others to think the same as what we think. I respect those who thinks that gambling money is dirty money but I don't think that way. My own opinion is that as long as the money I used to gamble or I earn from gambling does not affect other people's life then I'll say it is clear money, the same as money that I earn from other sources.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: lienfaye on September 12, 2019, 08:20:42 AM
I respect other religions belief about gambling but I dont agree that gambling money is considered dirty because you didnt obtain the money in illegal form, you accumulate those through winning.

I dont feel any guilt everytime I win, its meant for me since I just play and didnt harm others.

Well we have different opinion regarding this and it depends on what you believe in.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: shield132 on September 12, 2019, 08:45:45 AM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/


Ah I understand what and how they think, you don't have to build your happiness on someone's sadness, yeah, I agree with you but did anyone pushes any player to sell house and gamble with that amount of money? Of course no but what to do with people who gamble just for fun? Are such incomes still bad? For example imagine I have dedicated budget (max 50$ monthly) to gamble with, I gamble daily with 2$ just for fun because this casino offers game which I like with it's game idea, structure and design, can't find something 100% analogue for free. Is there still anything wrong here? There are also some gamblers who gamble with thousands of dollars because they are very rich and it's nothing for them, they get extra fun from it.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Icologies on September 12, 2019, 09:11:38 AM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/


gambling in the view of Islam is indeed haram and is not very good. people whose religion is strong surely know that it is strictly prohibited. but we are just ordinary people, people think differently. my advice still think about the trust that you believe right now. for Islam money is not everything, but faith takes precedence.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Ucy on September 12, 2019, 10:15:20 AM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/


I can understand why people still hold those beliefs about gambling, as we know a person that is addicted to gambling can lose everything very quickly but they are a very small portion of all of those that gamble, and it could be argued that those that are addicted to gambling could have gotten addicted to something else and still lose their money even if gambling was forbidden, so while I respect those that have those views I do not have any problem with someone that gambles for fun.


Exactly. Lots of things that are considered legal can lead people to addiction. Examples are soft-drink, sugar, tasty food, games, etc.
Basically enjoying any fun thing that has more harmful than harmless side could lead to addiction.
So I guess one of the solutions to addiction is to gradually replace the addictive things with fun things that are similar but beneficial & harmless to the enjoyers


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: bering on September 12, 2019, 10:25:09 AM
Just like i said before if you see gambling from religion side then obviously almost all of religions forbid gambling and they will never accept donation from gambling earning besides they called it as dirty money and it's also sin but i think all of it depend on each person to see gambling earning as dirty money or not and i think there always be debate regarding gambling and religion


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: iMark on September 12, 2019, 11:36:24 AM
To define 'dirty money' is money obtained unlawfully or immorally.
When I think of 'dirty money' I am thinking about money obtained by doing something illegal or harming a person maybe even drugs
Since gambling is legal where I am from I can not consider it dirty
Like your examples I know of people who feed his family from playing cards- how is this dirty money if he does nothing wrong

But OP also mentioned Islam in which I think he’s Religion and since it was forbidden from Muslim then it become Dirty money.no matter how good we deal with gambling yet it will be a Negative as not allowed by their religion and that’s the sad reality
Also there are countries that treat gambling as illegal activities so this also applied to the people live in those countries
Yeah we respect those religious rules, but all the choices go back to everyone wants to follow it or not. I myself assume that dirty money is money generated from crimes such as theft, robbery, cheating, scamming and others thing that harm others people.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Wonder_woman on September 12, 2019, 12:01:59 PM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/



Yes l also consider gambling money is a dirty money because as a member in the church we are not allowed to gamble because its bad. So a money from gambling is bad too. Because in gambling they used to be greedy, selfish and other bad characteristic  just to win the game.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on September 12, 2019, 12:35:57 PM
There so many religion on the world and every religion have their own faith and rules. Personally I don't hate any religion even that's no mine. I believe so many religion believe gambling is a dirty way to earn money. Money can't be dirty but the earning way could be dirty. I respect them also who had not received money from gambling. Because everyone should respect at least his own religion. So I don't think we should make argue about that.

That's just the fact, money will always be money, it doesn't matter how it was earned. The source of money could be considering dirty that's based on your religious beliefs but not the money itself. Gambling is illegal in some countries that means earning of money through gambling will be considered a dirty (dishonest) form of earning money in those countries but it doesn't automatically means earning money via gambling is wrong or dirty everywhere else.

In my opinion the world is just filled with so many religion and they're just contradicting themselves. The only reason behind gambling been tagged a dirty source of income is that for you to earn money, you have to take another individuals money so this religion are just trying to discourage the act of taking other people money but forgetting same time applies to other form of earning like trading, investing etc.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: FlightyPouch on September 12, 2019, 02:01:56 PM
To define 'dirty money' is money obtained unlawfully or immorally.
When I think of 'dirty money' I am thinking about money obtained by doing something illegal or harming a person maybe even drugs
Since gambling is legal where I am from I can not consider it dirty
Like your examples I know of people who feed his family from playing cards- how is this dirty money if he does nothing wrong

But OP also mentioned Islam in which I think he’s Religion and since it was forbidden from Muslim then it become Dirty money.no matter how good we deal with gambling yet it will be a Negative as not allowed by their religion and that’s the sad reality
Also there are countries that treat gambling as illegal activities so this also applied to the people live in those countries
Yeah we respect those religious rules, but all the choices go back to everyone wants to follow it or not. I myself assume that dirty money is money generated from crimes such as theft, robbery, cheating, scamming and others thing that harm others people.

Obviously since if you are reading the OP, dirty money is obtained unmorally and unlawfully, and you just ellaborate that. For me, dirty money is still money. No matter what they think as long as I am doing nothing wrong and I received that money as a donation, I would accept that since in the first place, I don't of that is dirty money or not, all I know is I am grateful to that person helping me.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: imstillthebest on September 12, 2019, 02:58:29 PM
For me, dirty money is still money. No matter what they think as long as I am doing nothing wrong and I received that money as a donation, I would accept that since in the first place, I don't of that is dirty money or not, all I know is I am grateful to that person helping me.

but what if you are aware that the your friend is a thief and he stole that money to someone else and he gave you some of it  .

will you still accept it ?  if that scenario happens to me i think i will think twice . 

 but i your friend is a good friend and he earns his money thru his own hardwork but he gambles it and if he won and gave you some , that will be more acceptable  and its not what we call a dirty money   .


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: noormcs5 on September 12, 2019, 03:14:30 PM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/



If you are considering gambling in terms of religion that these are not old fashioned views. If Gambling is prohibited in certain religion then it will remain prohibited forever and you cannot decline them by declaring them old fashioned. Other then this, no one considered gambling as a dirty money. People risk their real money to get more money from gambling and they do not want it to be called "Dirty money".


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Reatim on September 12, 2019, 08:35:01 PM
For me, dirty money is still money. No matter what they think as long as I am doing nothing wrong and I received that money as a donation, I would accept that since in the first place, I don't of that is dirty money or not, all I know is I am grateful to that person helping me.

but what if you are aware that the your friend is a thief and he stole that money to someone else and he gave you some of it  .

will you still accept it ?  if that scenario happens to me i think i will think twice . 
That’s the fact mate and you got it there,if the money came from a bad or not so good ways that’s considered as bad money and if you accept that with your knowledge(or even without yours)still immoral and not acceptable because it looks like justifying bad things to good(like Robin Hood  stealing to feed others)
Quote

 but i your friend is a good friend and he earns his money thru his own hardwork but he gambles it and if he won and gave you some , that will be more acceptable  and its not what we call a dirty money   .
Exactly that is a good money ,not unless your religion is against gambling or your government it will be turn as Sin money still


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Oilacris on September 12, 2019, 08:53:22 PM
For me, dirty money is still money. No matter what they think as long as I am doing nothing wrong and I received that money as a donation, I would accept that since in the first place, I don't of that is dirty money or not, all I know is I am grateful to that person helping me.

but what if you are aware that the your friend is a thief and he stole that money to someone else and he gave you some of it  .

will you still accept it ?  if that scenario happens to me i think i will think twice . 

 but i your friend is a good friend and he earns his money thru his own hardwork but he gambles it and if he won and gave you some , that will be more acceptable  and its not what we call a dirty money   .
To be honest no one would refuse money at any cost but all of them are going to accept it. I am one of those gamblers who use to gamble with small amount but want to increase it still o don’t see anything bad in it I work hard to gain it I spend my time and work in casino for hours then how it can be dirty for me.
No one has the right on what you gonna do with your money as long those money are being won legally then I don't see for it to be dirty.
Unless if you do cheat up someone or the house then that's considered illegal or dirty.
On religious aspect there are religion who do make gambling as a prohibited one and once you engage with that and the money being earned then
its considered not clean at all.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: AmoreJaz on September 12, 2019, 08:55:39 PM
To define 'dirty money' is money obtained unlawfully or immorally.
When I think of 'dirty money' I am thinking about money obtained by doing something illegal or harming a person maybe even drugs
Since gambling is legal where I am from I can not consider it dirty
Like your examples I know of people who feed his family from playing cards- how is this dirty money if he does nothing wrong

Dirty money can be classified indirectly and as mentioned it do pertains with religion.It might not be a serious matter on most religion but other
do consider this as a sin so therefore any money that being generated or earned by means of gambling will be considered dirty
We have seen that there are people who do make a living with gambling and i agree on what you said that money that havent been obtained by means of
illegal aspect cant be considered dirty.

it is more of personal perception when you identify gambling as dirty money. and what the op described is directly related to religion. we cant blame others whose religion has strict standpoint when it comes to gambling but they should not pick out other gamblers and labeled them as sinners! we only need respect in this space.
Whatever you believed in, stick to it if you can but dont let others suffer from your beliefs.
we are already in the age where we should be open to things that are outside of your boundaries. the world doesnt revolve in one religion only!


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: jhongzjhong on September 12, 2019, 11:54:57 PM
You might see gambling money as a dirty money but in my own case I don't see it that way because I see playing gambling as a trading which one can make profit or make loses at the end of the end your play. But if that is the way you see it based on what your mother told you then don't bother to participate in gambling.
I think It depends on the understanding of those people. Well on my own point of view it is not dirty money as long as you are fair on your opponent. I can call it clean money and I earned it in a fair game. The only dirty money is those come from who those committing crimes just to make money and also those come from dark web I guess. :D In gambling, I don't think so.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Hypnosis00 on September 12, 2019, 11:58:08 PM
You might see gambling money as a dirty money but in my own case I don't see it that way because I see playing gambling as a trading which one can make profit or make loses at the end of the end your play. But if that is the way you see it based on what your mother told you then don't bother to participate in gambling.
Well, it has to understand that people are different from each other and also their appreciations towards gambling. Not to condemn them just because they keep saying gambling is bad unless it has come from illegalities. Though we think gambling is full of trick but not actually it makes them illegal.

Well, it sometimes to ignore them...we play in fair and there is no reason we think it bad.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: hulla on September 13, 2019, 12:25:33 AM

I don't see it as something which is old fashioned as the religion (Christian and Muslim) is concern, gambling fund are dirty money but in a society where the economic is break down and alot of people are jobless. People consider gambling or working at a gambling company as a means of surviving which the reason why a lot of young folks are into sport gambling these days but its still better than stealing.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: The Cryptologist on September 13, 2019, 01:28:07 AM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]




Those church members would not even know that every people that donate huge money to them can verify it's not made illegally. In my country, our priests are always thankful when politicians donate huge money to them knowing that politicians get a lot  of dirty money. So why would we even be concern to be honest?  Yes, gambling is dirty money because most gamblers there does not use  hard earned money when they bet.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Polar91 on September 13, 2019, 03:07:04 AM
Gambling money becomes dirty money if it was from illegal act in which it's not tolerable by law. It's difficult to regulate since a gambling sites can operate without the approval of the government. Personally as a gambler, I don't mind on it too much since I'm playing fairly through crypto gambling site. It's better to be anonymous in while gambling so if there will be such leak, your identity won't be revealed.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Ucy on September 13, 2019, 03:47:45 AM
You shouldn't be promoting it then.

There is nothing wrong in playing national lottery for example or betting with friends on who will win a game. I think gambling becomes wrong when you do it excessively.
Doesn't competition sound like gambling to you? I mean, we create businesses to win in market competition. Only few most prepared (out of millions businesses) end up out competing others in the competition. I guess this type of competition qualifies as skill-based gambling.
Life is a gamble. We gamble all the time whether we agree or not.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: GreatArkansas on September 13, 2019, 06:10:08 AM
This kind of topic is like they said about Bitcoin, "Criminals are using Bitcoin to commit illegal doings" then other said "How about fiat then? The US Dollar?"

Then if we will compare it with gambling, this is really what it meant. Where the money came from before using it to gambling? Is it came from illegal doings?
Because if YES, then I can say that it will become a dirty money. Not on the act of doing gambling as long as you gamble your money in legal and legit ways.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: peter0425 on September 13, 2019, 06:35:40 AM
To define 'dirty money' is money obtained unlawfully or immorally.
When I think of 'dirty money' I am thinking about money obtained by doing something illegal or harming a person maybe even drugs
Since gambling is legal where I am from I can not consider it dirty
Like your examples I know of people who feed his family from playing cards- how is this dirty money if he does nothing wrong

But OP also mentioned Islam in which I think he’s Religion and since it was forbidden from Muslim then it become Dirty money.no matter how good we deal with gambling yet it will be a Negative as not allowed by their religion and that’s the sad reality
Also there are countries that treat gambling as illegal activities so this also applied to the people live in those countries
Yeah we respect those religious rules, but all the choices go back to everyone wants to follow it or not. I myself assume that dirty money is money generated from crimes such as theft, robbery, cheating, scamming and others thing that harm others people.
Yeah I understand you point mate but religion has their own rules and breaking it means crime(not literally)to them because that’s go against the will of the followers
But anyway in the end everyone will still have a conflict answering this matter because we have different views and stand about matters and added is our religious and non religious belief that will always hinder us from understanding


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Saisher on September 13, 2019, 06:36:27 AM
If you are an ultra-religious person or works in religious organizations, you will definitely not accept donations of any kinds coming from gambling it's a big no-no to you and the organization that you represents.

But if you are an average person and a liberal one you will not treat gambling money as dirty money, as long as that money can help you and your family, it's how you look at it and it's on your belief.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: TalkStar on September 13, 2019, 06:45:08 AM
My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]
Searching answer based on religious view wouldn't be a wise approach for us. Not only gambling is forbidden in Islam but also there is much more earning related things are forbidden too. AFAIK using or producing alcohol is also forbidden in Islam. So as a trader if you buy alcohol supplier company's share for trading then obviously that's gonna be forbidden in another view. So if we go with this jurisdiction than we will have to say that trading is also forbidden but most of the Islamic countries have their own stock exchange. In my view investment strategy totally depends on investors own where few of us careful about risk factor and few of us are ready to take the high risk with gambling.

   
I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.
Its completely his own thinking about gambling where you will easily find many people who are enough positive about gambling related earning.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: peter0425 on September 13, 2019, 06:56:13 AM

But OP also mentioned Islam in which I think he’s Religion and since it was forbidden from Muslim then it become Dirty money.no matter how good we deal with gambling yet it will be a Negative as not allowed by their religion and that’s the sad reality
Also there are countries that treat gambling as illegal activities so this also applied to the people live in those countries

It is about intent I always say as I understand and learn. And yes, strictly speaking this means as long as the income is from gambling even in a small way, then it is not possible for them to use it in a clean way.
But still it’s from gambling and no matter how they want to use it cleanly yet it came from prohibiting of their religious beliefs
Quote
But this is all personal matter to me, the state should not meddle when the state gambles with the economy all the time!
Well for Op it’s not personal because it’s religious,and what are good for gamblers are bad from the religion because it’s written in their Koran as guess it is since I am not a Muslim but have a friends who’s gives me idea about the prohibition of this activities to them


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: dentolas on September 13, 2019, 07:20:37 AM
Gambling exists since humans started their societies all over the globe, and in spite of how we might paint gambling with all the preconceptions and modern trends, it is just a game... can we consider this money as dirty money? what about anyone that wins the lottery, or plays scratch and win someting? I think this becoming just an anti-gambling religion...
(of course tht gambling has it's dark side, but everything that is done out of balance has a dark side, food, lazyness, even too much exercise can become additions)
 


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Findingnemo on September 13, 2019, 07:31:48 AM
Governments created fiat money,governments allowed gambling sites,people lose or win from gambling that is simple structure of gambling.

So money coming from any source created by the same one so its not a dirty money though.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: sana54210 on September 13, 2019, 08:10:50 AM
To define 'dirty money' is money obtained unlawfully or immorally.
When I think of 'dirty money' I am thinking about money obtained by doing something illegal or harming a person maybe even drugs
Since gambling is legal where I am from I can not consider it dirty
Like your examples I know of people who feed his family from playing cards- how is this dirty money if he does nothing wrong

But OP also mentioned Islam in which I think he’s Religion and since it was forbidden from Muslim then it become Dirty money.no matter how good we deal with gambling yet it will be a Negative as not allowed by their religion and that’s the sad reality
Also there are countries that treat gambling as illegal activities so this also applied to the people live in those countries
It’s not about what religion think about gambling but what we think. In my religion, gambling is a taboo an anyone found gambling is deal with accordingly but I thank God for crypto gambling that helps us play anonymously without the awareness of anyone.

I asked my parents the reason gambling is highly detested among many people and religion and the reason she gave did not make any sense to me, this is probably the reason I concluded within me never to adhere to their opinion, but to follow my mind. Gambling to me, isn’t a bad idea and the money earned is very clean because I worked for it. So what people, religion or society believes is not as important as what we particularly believe.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: stfN2128 on September 13, 2019, 08:15:25 AM
If you think that way, then there is much more "dirty money" on the streets....

Btw. lottery is the same, but why is lottery more accepted in our society then gambling ??? This is something i don't understand at all ::)


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Ucy on September 13, 2019, 09:08:34 AM
If you are an ultra-religious person or works in religious organizations, you will definitely not accept donations of any kinds coming from gambling it's a big no-no to you and the organization that you represents.

But if you are an average person and a liberal one you will not treat gambling money as dirty money, as long as that money can help you and your family, it's how you look at it and it's on your belief.

Gambling issue is not necessarily a religious debate. Gambling addiction can affect any society. So both secular and religious views should be welcomed in debate like this. Who knows, you could find good ideas from all contributions.
I'm not against gambling. I don't see the need to be against it if people are taught to gambling in moderation


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: XCANA on September 13, 2019, 09:14:49 AM
Going by the ethical ways or in lime light of religious belief, it is very wrong for anyone to get their self involve into gambling because its forbidden in the holy books. Christianity and Islam vehemently worn their worshippers against gambling but, many have took to the same way to make their money even though it is forbidden. Basically, any money earned from gambling is actually dirty money and should not be use to donate to the religious house.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Ranly123 on September 13, 2019, 09:25:54 AM
Today's generation, money is what we need to survive. So whether it's from gambling or not, as long as it's legal then I will consider it clean. Money from crime is what we should consider dirty since it came from a source in which it was taken forcibly.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: pandukelana2712 on September 13, 2019, 09:59:22 AM
Depends on their beliefs because even it is dirty money it still money and we can buy needs because of money.
Money is not dirty. The dirty one is how they earn money.

Sadly, the OP said that Gambling money is dirty, but he uses the BSpin Casino signature.
Let me know the opinion of the OP. Is promoting gambling a dirty thing?


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: tazmantasik on September 13, 2019, 09:45:57 PM
If talking about religion for the problem of gambling, of course it would be wrong.

I strongly agree if people who say as long as the way is right without harming others, it can still be considered true.

The example said @Ranly123, I very much agree with the idea.

So money from gambling is not dirty money, as long as you don't associate it all with religion.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Hypnosis00 on September 13, 2019, 10:30:30 PM
If talking about religion for the problem of gambling, of course it would be wrong.
So money from gambling is not dirty money, as long as you don't associate it all with religion.
That is their beliefs and what their elders say.
With that, we can't push them to change their mind or give them some education and have to know also that some gamblers are involved in illegal activities. With all that matters and differences, we should have to take it aside and to believe what we have to think about gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: sweetbet on September 13, 2019, 11:24:06 PM
Gambling is an age old activity. As long as a person gambles in moderation on an occasional basis as a form of entertainment, then it is ok. But there are some people who can't control themselves and bet more than they can afford to lose. In the end, these gambling addicts end up losing their money, house, jobs, families, etc. Gambling can have negative effects, but so can alcohol, tobacco, etc. Lottery is a form of gambling and millions of people around the world buy the occasional lottery ticket. Is that a bad thing? As long as it's done in moderation, then it can't cause too much harm.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: ethereumhunter on September 14, 2019, 12:34:52 PM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]


for the Islamic view, money from gambling should not be used let alone spent on daily needs. but in my opinion no matter how big the winnings obtained from gambling of course the money will not last long, without us knowing money from gambling results will run out faster because most are only used for pleasure

Yes, I agree. It's like a "hot money" that will not stay with us in a long time. Maybe that is why many gamblers cannot save their win money because they are spending to buy anything they want. Besides that, if someone considers gambling money is dirty money, then we cannot say anything because we have different opinion and perspective about gambling. But if we don't talk about religion, I think money from gambling is not dirty money, especially if gambling is allowed in our places.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Janation on September 14, 2019, 12:44:40 PM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]


for the Islamic view, money from gambling should not be used let alone spent on daily needs. but in my opinion no matter how big the winnings obtained from gambling of course the money will not last long, without us knowing money from gambling results will run out faster because most are only used for pleasure

If gambling is forbidden in your country, obviously you will not be gambling.

You are not just neglecting your responsibility in your religion but you are neglecting the belief your family and your society has shown to you.

Don't gamble if you know that it is not an activity you should do. If an Islam wanted to gamble, better quit being an Islam so he can do what he wants. It is not just dirty money but dirty personality you will be having if you commit that forbidden act.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: virasog on September 15, 2019, 04:58:04 AM
If you think that way, then there is much more "dirty money" on the streets....

Btw. lottery is the same, but why is lottery more accepted in our society then gambling ??? This is something i don't understand at all ::)

Many people do not consider lottery as a form of gambling.  They consider  the gambling and lottery two different things and therefore they feel no hesitation in playing the lottery and participating in the lottery.   Although I totally disagree with their point of view as lottery is similar to gambling.
If gambling is a dirty money then lotteries are the same.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: btc78 on September 15, 2019, 10:40:51 AM
Gambling money is not dirty because we also risk our money to earn those,this is not the amount that we can just get easily because the truth is we mostly lose than winning in gambling

For me dirty money came from illegal activities so not unless the gambling is considered illegal in your place the that’s another story I guess



But for me?even if gambling is illegal declared in my country yet I will gamble and won’t consider this a dirty money ,no matter what they say or do


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: FlightyPouch on September 15, 2019, 12:16:46 PM
Today's generation, money is what we need to survive. So whether it's from gambling or not, as long as it's legal then I will consider it clean. Money from crime is what we should consider dirty since it came from a source in which it was taken forcibly.

That is true, gambling can't be considered illegal as long as it is legal to do in your country. If it is illegal, then I advice that you should not do that since that will lead you to the jail. In our country, money from smuggling, and other crime is dirty money. Scams, hacks can also be considered as illegal acts


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Reatim on September 15, 2019, 12:23:19 PM
But for me?even if gambling is illegal declared in my country yet I will gamble and won’t consider this a dirty money ,no matter what they say or do

Exactly, dirty is subjective to every individuals opinions. The things you consider dirty or illegal are legal in some part of the world or might not be legal but still it's seen as a norm. Just like smoking of marijuana in Jamaica compared to American. If your country ban gambling and you make money from gambling, from the government point of view it's a dirty and illegal form of money but from your angle, it's your risk and hardwork that brought about that money.
I love that part mate and that is absolutely true,each country has their own stand on what is legal and illegal,and same as we Gamblers we have our point on how we consider things legal and illegal and as what many says here that unless you’re not affectingly or doing bad to someone things will be considered as legal so basically there’s no Dirty money on that
Anyway no matter how good we put opinion here yet we are all entitled to our own so there’s always a debatable part here


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: finaleshot2016 on September 15, 2019, 01:50:20 PM
I think it's based on the culture or perspective on gambling.

If gambling is really just for entertainment, you can't say it's bad. I mean you won that money through your instincts, what's the wrong with that? people lack understanding in situation like this because of social media.

Media are trying to pollute the minds of the people through negative news about gambling so their perspective on gambling will be also negative. That's how toxic our culture is, only open-minded people appreciate what's gambling for and its true purpose. Regarding dirty money, if it's gambling is legal in your country then it's not dirty money, people should be more practical since we're having a crisis even on education.

Dirty money comes from illegal actions like corruption, that's the time you can call it dirty.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: samcrypto on September 15, 2019, 02:08:55 PM
There are three ways of having a money. One is a hard work earned money, next is the charity money and last is from steeling it. If you get your money from the last one then that will be considered dirty. Gambling is a game and theres no dirty about winning from it.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: rachman mahesa on September 15, 2019, 03:45:45 PM
Today's generation, money is what we need to survive. So whether it's from gambling or not, as long as it's legal then I will consider it clean. Money from crime is what we should consider dirty since it came from a source in which it was taken forcibly.

That is true, gambling can't be considered illegal as long as it is legal to do in your country. If it is illegal, then I advice that you should not do that since that will lead you to the jail. In our country, money from smuggling, and other crime is dirty money. Scams, hacks can also be considered as illegal acts

That is what dirty money says, because the way to get it is the wrong way (illegal). So, in fact we cannot categorize the money obtained from gambling as dirty money. Because it was not done wrong. We are in agreement here what dirty money is.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: sana54210 on September 15, 2019, 03:55:20 PM
It's like a "hot money" that will not stay with us in a long time. Maybe that is why many gamblers cannot save their win money because they are spending to buy anything they want. Besides that, if someone considers gambling money is dirty money, then we cannot say anything because we have different opinion and perspective about gambling. But if we don't talk about religion, I think money from gambling is not dirty money, especially if gambling is allowed in our places.
I don’t consider money from gambling dirty, it is dirty to those who believe it is. A lot of people believe money made from gambling cannot be saved or even when saved cannot yield result when invested but from my experience, I have saved, invested money I made from gambling and I have seen great improvement.

My religion is not against gambling so I don’t go behind to play, I feel, if your belief is against it, you should betray it because that would be considered a great betrayal and that would rebellious and all this might be the reason the money gotten would not be fruitful or yield good result. In conclusion, never use gambling money or take part in gambling if it is against your cultural belief.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: pixie85 on September 15, 2019, 04:58:13 PM
The only dirty money is money taken from someone by force or through scam. If that person willingly gives money away it's not dirty. He pays to play a game. When you pay to ride a rollercoaster is that money dirty? You had fun and you paid for it. It's the same when you gamble. You pay for the game and have a chance to win more than you came with.

If people were deceiving others to make them gamble it would be dirty but the rules are clear.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Twinkledoe on September 15, 2019, 09:17:38 PM
The only dirty money is money taken from someone by force or through scam. If that person willingly gives money away it's not dirty. He pays to play a game. When you pay to ride a rollercoaster is that money dirty? You had fun and you paid for it. It's the same when you gamble. You pay for the game and have a chance to win more than you came with.

If people were deceiving others to make them gamble it would be dirty but the rules are clear.

Same outlook here. But some religions are making a big deal out of it. So if someone is a devoted individual to his religion, he should respect his religion's beliefs. Otherwise, look for another religion that will fit your stance in life. But for me, as long as you are not doing illegal activity, I won't consider gambling money as dirty money. All is fair in this game, right?


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Oceat on September 15, 2019, 09:44:37 PM
The only dirty money is money taken from someone by force or through scam. If that person willingly gives money away it's not dirty. He pays to play a game. When you pay to ride a rollercoaster is that money dirty? You had fun and you paid for it. It's the same when you gamble. You pay for the game and have a chance to win more than you came with.

If people were deceiving others to make them gamble it would be dirty but the rules are clear.

Same outlook here. But some religions are making a big deal out of it. So if someone is a devoted individual to his religion, he should respect his religion's beliefs. Otherwise, look for another religion that will fit your stance in life. But for me, as long as you are not doing illegal activity, I won't consider gambling money as dirty money. All is fair in this game, right?
I think it is based on every country's culture in terms of moral.

For me, it all depends on how rational are you if you look at those things from your own perspective. We were living in a world where everyone will be going to judge you no matter what you do but the most important thing is that if you know you are right then you have to believe it and fight for it despite of that negativity surrounding you.

Gambling can be good at some point but sometimes can be bad. For example, gambling with animal fighting is something against your code of honor and that is bad because you feel guilt.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: jostorres on September 16, 2019, 05:07:37 AM
There so many religion on the world and every religion have their own faith and rules. Personally I don't hate any religion even that's no mine. I believe so many religion believe gambling is a dirty way to earn money. Money can't be dirty but the earning way could be dirty. I respect them also who had not received money from gambling. Because everyone should respect at least his own religion. So I don't think we should make argue about that.
I am very sure that in the mouth of two or three witnesses, truth is established. If gambling is seen as something dirty in almost all religion, then there is an atom of truth in it. Let’s not allow monetary benefits becloud our sense of reason and let’s call a spade a spade.

I grew up in a home where gambling was more like an abomination, it was really so bad that my parents would not allow us mingle with our mates that had connections with gambling, but growing up, life became so tough that we are left with no option than to gamble to make a living but this does not mean we have forgotten the truth surrounding the game. It is a dirty game and the money gotten from it is as well dirty.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Maotezi on September 16, 2019, 10:53:15 AM
Anyone who has received gambling money can confirm that it is the sweetest money because they did not work and did not bother. And on the other hand, before he took that money, he touched his nerves to the bottom. Of course it's dirty money, but no one looks at it when they take a gamble. We have to agree that it's nice to take money that didn't bend your back.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: suzanne5223 on September 16, 2019, 08:34:14 PM
Anyone who has received gambling money can confirm that it is the sweetest money because they did not work and did not bother. And on the other hand, before he took that money, he touched his nerves to the bottom. Of course it's dirty money, but no one looks at it when they take a gamble. We have to agree that it's nice to take money that didn't bend your back.
I think you're not been straight here buddy because you believe gambling money is the sweetest money and you also said it to be dirty money. We all have different believe and definition of dirty money cause to me dirty money is money made or earn through illegal purpose and gambling is a game of chance and it also legalized either so I don't believe gambling money is dirty money.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: milewilda on September 16, 2019, 09:24:47 PM
Anyone who has received gambling money can confirm that it is the sweetest money because they did not work and did not bother. And on the other hand, before he took that money, he touched his nerves to the bottom. Of course it's dirty money, but no one looks at it when they take a gamble. We have to agree that it's nice to take money that didn't bend your back.
I think you're not been straight here buddy because you believe gambling money is the sweetest money and you also said it to be dirty money. We all have different believe and definition of dirty money cause to me dirty money is money made or earn through illegal purpose and gambling is a game of chance and it also legalized either so I don't believe gambling money is dirty money.
Statement being told is self-contradicting thats why readers would really have confusion if they trying to understand on what this dude is talking about.lol
Gambling money is never been dirty but there are really people who do have those beliefs that engaging into this activity does considered to be dirty specially on earning
from it but generally i cant see a reason why would consider this one to be like that since this is just an earning from the enjoyment we are involved to.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: AliMan on September 16, 2019, 10:28:57 PM
This isn't a proper term for gambling money to become a dirty, because if you played fairly and you don't have hidden agendas to take advantage; it's still a clean money. Dirty money usually have the impression on certain matters, once it involves a crime and it's resources came from evil acts like drug money or any illegal sources.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Harkorede on September 17, 2019, 01:55:27 AM
There are three ways of having a money. One is a hard work earned money, next is the charity money and last is from steeling it. If you get your money from the last one then that will be considered dirty. Gambling is a game and theres no dirty about winning from it.

Have you considered it from the area of Gambling could simply means taking another man's money. When religion teaches their member and believers in such manner, it becomes a problem as they're programmed to feel like you shouldn't take another individual fund even though it was won fairly like contest, investment etc.

I believe a lot of religious aspects or beliefs have brought about mental enslavement. Gambling is against almost all moral standards and isn't advised a means making money even by companies who runs them, of course that could be hypocrisy. But a religion would make you reject money you make fair and square through gambling, and such religion would allow you make make money defending a criminal as a lawyer, or make money over people's bad health as a doctor, how logical.

Nothing in lis remains entirely fair, its just about finding the right balance. If it is legal then what does it matter ?


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: sheenshane on September 17, 2019, 02:22:05 AM
This isn't a proper term for gambling money to become a dirty, because if you played fairly and you don't have hidden agendas to take advantage; it's still a clean money. Dirty money usually have the impression on certain matters, once it involves a crime and it's resources came from evil acts like drug money or any illegal sources.
Tend to agree on this. That money you make illegally or not through any good or moral means are termed as DIRTY MONEY, like drug dealing, smuggling, robbing, extortion, scamming and other crimes, that's how you earn dirty money. It's nothing but the money laundering, which essentially means hidden of origins in illegally obtained money.

I didn't have seen a valid reason that the money comes from gambling is dirty because it is fairly gain. If someone donating that comes from winning in gambling that is not dirty money, the fact that there are some gambling company who has a charity program and helping those poor people.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: EdenHazard on September 17, 2019, 03:08:32 AM
This isn't a proper term for gambling money to become a dirty, because if you played fairly and you don't have hidden agendas to take advantage; it's still a clean money. Dirty money usually have the impression on certain matters, once it involves a crime and it's resources came from evil acts like drug money or any illegal sources.
Op drag this matter down to a religion area ... which it's pretty sensitive and we have different perspectives regarding this , there's no point to discuss this stuff but to clear things up based on what op believed that gambling is a dirty money on his religion side.

Just think about this ...

Better to earn money from gamble but hurts nobody or
Do illegal things such as robbery and corruption maybe that could hurts a lot of people ?

Is it fair enough to call both is on a same level of what you call as 'dirty money' ?
I don't think so.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: michellee on September 17, 2019, 03:12:55 AM
There are three ways of having a money. One is a hard work earned money, next is the charity money and last is from steeling it. If you get your money from the last one then that will be considered dirty. Gambling is a game and theres no dirty about winning from it.

Have you considered it from the area of Gambling could simply means taking another man's money. When religion teaches their member and believers in such manner, it becomes a problem as they're programmed to feel like you shouldn't take another individual fund even though it was won fairly like contest, investment etc.

I am sure that if that person is a religious people, he will not spend his time playing gambling because that will be prohibited in his religion. He will have a strong mind to stay away from gambling and never interfere with gambling. Even he will always suggest his friends or family stay away from gambling too. But not all people can be like him because it needs a strong mind and ability to control ourselves.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: MI6 on September 17, 2019, 06:28:44 AM
I think about sin there are no old or maybe new fashion or maybe mindset. Because it is already fixed and sin is a sin. Maybe what can we do is believe by ourself, i mean if we like gambling, just play and don't listen to other's comments. And for others, even it is a sin but disturb other people who want to do what they want to do is bad thing. As long it is not crime.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Natalim on September 17, 2019, 06:41:55 AM
I think about sin there are no old or maybe new fashion or maybe mindset. Because it is already fixed and sin is a sin. Maybe what can we do is believe by ourself, i mean if we like gambling, just play and don't listen to other's comments. And for others, even it is a sin but disturb other people who want to do what they want to do is bad thing. As long it is not crime.
There's some contradicting principle when it comes to religion and the law of the land, but every citizen follow the law of the land as will be punish if we will not or break a law. Gambling could be illegal to some countries but in some countries it is not, so this means that every country has a different belief and it could be the religion that could affect the people who runs the government as they are the ones who are making the law.

So here's a simple trick, if gambling is illegal in your country and you want to play, then transfer to another country that is gambling friendly and if your religion does not allow you to gamble, you always have a choice to change religion.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: SirLancelot on September 17, 2019, 07:23:51 AM
If gambling is forbidden in your country, obviously you will not be gambling.

You are not just neglecting your responsibility in your religion but you are neglecting the belief your family and your society has shown to you.

Don't gamble if you know that it is not an activity you should do. If an Islam wanted to gamble, better quit being an Islam so he can do what he wants. It is not just dirty money but dirty personality you will be having if you commit that forbidden act.
Yes. Like my religion will say, you cannot serve God and mammon. If you are for gambling, then stay for gambling and if your religion is against it, then flee from it. There is no point living a double standard life and living in confusion.

If the reason to play is for money, there are other ways to make money, mustn’t be on gambling alone. I dislike it when people live a confused life. If my culture or belief was against gambling, I would not have any reason to be a part of it. The above poster has explained better on this, that will be like a stain on your personality, so you are advised to quit and focus on your religion.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: South Park on September 17, 2019, 06:22:33 PM
I can understand why people still hold those beliefs about gambling, as we know a person that is addicted to gambling can lose everything very quickly but they are a very small portion of all of those that gamble, and it could be argued that those that are addicted to gambling could have gotten addicted to something else and still lose their money even if gambling was forbidden, so while I respect those that have those views I do not have any problem with someone that gambles for fun.


Exactly. Lots of things that are considered legal can lead people to addiction. Examples are soft-drink, sugar, tasty food, games, etc.
Basically enjoying any fun thing that has more harmful than harmless side could lead to addiction.
So I guess one of the solutions to addiction is to gradually replace the addictive things with fun things that are similar but beneficial & harmless to the enjoyers
While your solution makes sense we must also understand that some people have personalities that make them more likely to get addicted to something, so even if you were to replace habits that you may think as negative those people will just redirect their addiction to something else and as we know something that may be considered to be harmless can still be very damaging to people if moderation is not exercised, so no matter how much we try there are some people that cannot be helped no matter what we do.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: adzino on September 17, 2019, 07:57:53 PM
Any particular reason why gambling money is considered dirty money? Is it because the profit you get is actually the loss of other person? Well, you see, no one forced anyone to gamble in a casino. They joined on their own will and lost their money. They knew the risk that was associated with it. I guess people makeup those "dirty money" stuffs to avoid people from becoming a gamble addict.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Wonder_woman on September 17, 2019, 09:07:28 PM
I count gambling money is dirty because it is from different kinds of people who goes there. Most gamblers go for gambling to multiply their money. Gamblers are selfish,they want to have the money in there. There are lots of baf attitude just to win in gambling site. Example,Some are from robbery.so l count it as a dirty money.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: dunfida on September 17, 2019, 09:10:08 PM
I count gambling money is dirty because it is from different kinds of people who goes there. Most gamblers go for gambling to multiply their money. Gamblers are selfish,they want to have the money in there. There are lots of baf attitude just to win in gambling site. Example,Some are from robbery.so l count it as a dirty money.
If you do talk on passing that robbed money from Player A to Player B by means of winning into a particular casino game then i dont see for it to be relevant nor valid.
How about on considering on getting some fiat money as change into your bill came from the same aspect? Does it consider dirty? Think twice.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Prettyme on September 17, 2019, 10:12:24 PM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/



Yes I'm still considered gambling as a dirty or not good to people. Gambling teach us to be greedy when it comes to money it can lead to addiction so if you get addicted with gambling then it is for you to get out. So if you want to gamble make sure it is just for fun and don't considered it as a way in gaining money. Gambling has been discovered for leisure time  only.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: MI6 on September 17, 2019, 10:21:25 PM
I think about sin there are no old or maybe new fashion or maybe mindset. Because it is already fixed and sin is a sin. Maybe what can we do is believe by ourself, i mean if we like gambling, just play and don't listen to other's comments. And for others, even it is a sin but disturb other people who want to do what they want to do is bad thing. As long it is not crime.
There's some contradicting principle when it comes to religion and the law of the land, but every citizen follow the law of the land as will be punish if we will not or break a law. Gambling could be illegal to some countries but in some countries it is not, so this means that every country has a different belief and it could be the religion that could affect the people who runs the government as they are the ones who are making the law.

So here's a simple trick, if gambling is illegal in your country and you want to play, then transfer to another country that is gambling friendly and if your religion does not allow you to gamble, you always have a choice to change religion.
I am still people who actually open minded. Although in my country gambling is prohibited, crypto really help me so i am get easier way if want to do sportsbetting activity. I just respect for who really hold their belief.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: ghermghuda on September 17, 2019, 10:24:34 PM
Buddy, fact is that our parent's generation had ways of making money and they thought those are the only legit ways. They mostly don't consider gambling and some other internet money as actually honestly earned money. So that's why they see gambling as such. It seems to them you didnt really work but you earned lol.
NB//: I'm speaking as it pertains to my country of origin though...thanks.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: The Cryptovator on September 18, 2019, 05:01:02 AM
Any particular reason why gambling money is considered dirty money? Is it because the profit you get is actually the loss of other person? Well, you see, no one forced anyone to gamble in a casino. They joined on their own will and lost their money. They knew the risk that was associated with it.
I don't think that there is any specific reason why gambling money would consider as dirty money. I think this is just belief of society and religion. But this might be one reason that you mentioned. Because when you are winning,  someone is losing other end. Although everyone know the risk of gambling but they feel very bad after lost money. Who know if someone lost money which was hold for family feed. Perhaps that's the reason why society & religion doesn't like gambling. What I believe, any bad thing would not support any any religion and that's why I respect their beliefs.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: swogerino on September 18, 2019, 06:52:48 AM
I don’t think is dirty money as long as players are playing by their free will and no one is forcing them.The gamblers are all trying to win and since they all are playing by their free will they don’t consider the winning amount of money as dirty or not correct.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: TheUltraElite on September 18, 2019, 07:03:28 AM
People should start questioning motifs of people more than blindly reading everything on the internet.

The sources quoted by the OP are questionable and biased opinions by people who have their own propaganda against gambling. If you are fed by this propaganda be happy with it and dont gamble but for those who are gamblers they are fully aware of what they use to gamble with and it is their own personal choice to gamble or not.

Truely sometimes addiction makes people do wrong things and get money from wrong sources. But there is no need to comment on that because they chose to go to the wrong side of the world instead of stopping their desire to gamble.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: SquallLeonhart on September 18, 2019, 07:44:34 AM
While your solution makes sense we must also understand that some people have personalities that make them more likely to get addicted to something, so even if you were to replace habits that you may think as negative those people will just redirect their addiction to something else and as we know something that may be considered to be harmless can still be very damaging to people if moderation is not exercised, so no matter how much we try there are some people that cannot be helped no matter what we do.
I think all this is based on mindset. No one is born with an addictive nature. Those that become addicted or suffer addiction didn't consider playing with wisdom. You have mentioned moderation in your post and this is the very thing most gamblers suffer from.

To those who play for fun and yet get addicted, they feel their all-round happiness and joy is tied to gambling, so they are willing to stay all day gambling and in no time they become addicted and to those playing for money, theirs is always worst because they are just desperate to make it at all cost.  These kind of people are the reasons behind gambling being seen as bad and dirty.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: 1BTC EQUALS 1CAR on September 18, 2019, 08:01:59 AM
Well, I don't agree because you did not steal it and you did not take that money by force and if you win then it is because you are lucky. The gambling industry is legal because if not then the people who work there is receiving dirty money if that is your perception to the money coming from it. It is just when you won huge from gambling, it is not something you can be proud of yourself.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Ucy on September 18, 2019, 04:29:48 PM
People should start questioning motifs of people more than blindly reading everything on the internet.

The sources quoted by the OP are questionable and biased opinions by people who have their own propaganda against gambling. If you are fed by this propaganda be happy with it and dont gamble but for those who are gamblers they are fully aware of what they use to gamble with and it is their own personal choice to gamble or not.

Truely sometimes addiction makes people do wrong things and get money from wrong sources. But there is no need to comment on that because they chose to go to the wrong side of the world instead of stopping their desire to gamble.


Quote
Truely sometimes addiction makes people do wrong things and get money from wrong sources

Interesting.
The addiction thing is probably responsible for people (kids especially) stealing money to gamble. This could explain why addicted kids in my school days would always have money issue with their parents. It's most likely due to addiction because the kids would never stop taking things without their parents permission


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on September 18, 2019, 10:21:34 PM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/
I remember my dad when brought me to a Casino in Cebu and all the winnings that we have are all accounted and never mixed with the regular money that we have. We bought food, we use it pay the hotel bill, buy some local items to bring home, but never put it together with the money that never came from gambling example put is inside the same wallet, my dad says its bad luck, literally its like dirty money, he set it aside from the clean ones. 


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: maydna on September 19, 2019, 02:22:55 AM
I count gambling money is dirty because it is from different kinds of people who goes there. Most gamblers go for gambling to multiply their money. Gamblers are selfish,they want to have the money in there. There are lots of baf attitude just to win in gambling site. Example,Some are from robbery.so l count it as a dirty money.

But we cannot blame the gamblers because they always play gambling every day. That will be their responsibility to take care of their money, but we can suggest they not used their money in a huge amount. If they don't want to listen to us, then it is up to them because that is their money.

Some of the gamblers are selfish, but the others are not, and we cannot judge all of them are selfish. Yes, we realize that many of them have a bad attitude when they are playing gambling, but as long as they can control themselves in the gambling games, I think we could let them decide to continue or to stop playing gambling.

The money is dirty, or not will depend on where we see the money come from, and we should respect what they did.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Ailmand on September 19, 2019, 05:22:13 AM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/



In a religious point of view it is. However, gambling has been part of our culture and daily lives and also it is a big business industry which I think helps the economy. Even some big casinos help charities and foes their social responsibility. So, I think it depends on what view are you looking at gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Reatim on September 19, 2019, 05:50:35 AM
                          ~snip~
Quote
In a religious point of view it is. However, gambling has been part of our culture and daily lives and also it is a big business industry which I think helps the economy. Even some big casinos help charities and foes their social responsibility. So, I think it depends on what view are you looking at gambling.
This will be depending on which country and what community you’re living mate because there are countries that consider gambling is really illegal so that’s another story

And there are community as well that treat gambling as part of their daily living,so in which you live there’s appropriate treatment for gambling
So from that you will differentiate if gambling money is dirty or not


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: suzanne5223 on September 19, 2019, 12:22:44 PM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/



In a religious point of view it is. However, gambling has been part of our culture and daily lives and also it is a big business industry which I think helps the economy. Even some big casinos help charities and foes their social responsibility. So, I think it depends on what view are you looking at gambling.
I supported the part of gambling being part of our daily lives because every trading and investment we do through crypto or in the real life are also another form of gambling.
Meanwhile, the benefit and help which the gambling company provided to our societies are one of the reason why I don't consider gambling money as dirty money.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: hahay on September 19, 2019, 07:24:19 PM
I realize that every group or religion or whatever it is has at least a different view of gambling, despite the fact that despite different religions there are still those who consider gambling money dirty and I admit it. IMO, there is nothing wrong about this even though at this time we can say it is an old-fashioned view, but because of the religion and advice of parents about gambling, then I think that old-fashioned view or not depends on the perception of each individual because gambling continues to grow and increasingly many people who gamble I feel gambling is part of the lifestyle for those who like to gamble.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: AjithBtc on September 19, 2019, 11:59:08 PM
I realize that every group or religion or whatever it is has at least a different view of gambling, despite the fact that despite different religions there are still those who consider gambling money dirty and I admit it. IMO, there is nothing wrong about this even though at this time we can say it is an old-fashioned view, but because of the religion and advice of parents about gambling, then I think that old-fashioned view or not depends on the perception of each individual because gambling continues to grow and increasingly many people who gamble I feel gambling is part of the lifestyle for those who like to gamble.
Gambling has now got to be common as a lifestyle of the present generation. From every religious view it is against the religious following or dirty money. There is a saying in my locality, liquor, women and gambling could ruin your life easily. We need to understand the limits and gamble, and it is an easy money though we risk our own money. This too is a reason for people to say it as dirty money.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Renampun on September 20, 2019, 12:32:07 PM
IMO, gambling money is dirty money,
I am a religious person and don't play gambling very often,
based on the teachings of my religious teacher, that gambling is the root of all causes of violence,
this is what I think is the cause of money from gambling is dirty.



Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: bitzizzix on September 20, 2019, 01:52:49 PM
Even though gambling results are dirty money, they don't care because what they need is profits that can be obtained in a short way.
and pleasure will be a reason for those who want good luck, and in my religious teachings gambling is also prohibited but they still bet even though they risk losing everything but that will not scare them.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: roosbit on September 20, 2019, 02:02:44 PM
If Gambling money is dirty money then what happens to all the money that gets back into circulation from gambling winnings and comes to us as clean Fiat money....so are we going to stop using it, I don't think so!

Am sure this is what elders say to discourage the younger ones from gambling and not because it's dirty money.

And as far as I know since gamblers rarely win and come with money from home, then it's most likely that gambling houses have clean money and we use the dirt when we not playing.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: btc78 on September 20, 2019, 04:09:07 PM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



these are basically to avoid doing gambling , because many lose in gambling eventually many gamblers risk a lot and put them in trouble so many things are said like this so to avoid doing and thinking of gambling 
You’re not getting the point here mate,it’s not about the restriction on why OP asked about the topic it’s about what or where can be the gambling money lined if

For me it’s not a dirty money of you use your money camping from work or other good ways of profiteering,and how you handle to play

I f you first feed you family and the extra money goes to gamble that’s ok.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Ryker1 on September 20, 2019, 04:23:02 PM
Well, the words Dirty money is that money came from stolen and something you are committing crimes just for money or those illegal activities that you can earn money. If you had gambled with provably fair with your opponents or even the house edge without cheating the outcome on that is clean money and that is not dirty money. Indeed, the profit on gambling through honest way is not a dirty money.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: jostorres on September 20, 2019, 05:39:23 PM
The view is not of your mum alone because it cuts across every spheres of human endeavours and the reason is not far fetched which was what was obtainable in the past as at when they were growing up. People who engage in gambling at the time are seen as social menace who are people that are lazy and decide to see gambling as a quick way to get rich and we have seen people also use the route as a means to launder their ill gotten wealth.

Truth be told, even in today's dispensation, there have been argument and release of "dirty money" finding its way into gambling but its not as profound as its being said because today we have the KYC being applied to gambling whether online or offline where gambling sites are made to comply with.
It is just absurd that morality is no longer a thing of paramount importance in today’s world if not, we would admit that gambling is a complete disaster to the society and a plague that should be avoided especially by our children. This shit is addictive and online platform has made it easier for underage kids that should be focused with their education spend unnecessary time on gambling site.

I never liked gambling until few years ago, my friends succeeded I convincing me that it isn’t just an avenue for quick money but can also be played for fun, this I tried and I am impressed but all the same, I in support of the opinion that money gotten from gambling is nothing but dirty money.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Murat on September 20, 2019, 06:04:30 PM
I think Gambling is prohibited in some religious. That's why people who believe in God or believe in the religion doesn’t like gambling. I know, in Islam gambling is Haram. If someone do gambling and lives hos life on that, he will be thrown to hell.

My family also Doesn't support gambling. People here says, they will die without eating but never earn by gambling.                           


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Dread Pirate Roberts on September 20, 2019, 09:51:52 PM
Gambling can make someone lose everything. gambling can be addictive. gambling can change the way people think. but gambling can also train mentally and adrenaline. gambling should be a fun game. but if it's too serious and sacrificed money for gambling I think it's the wrong way.
Everyone has their own thoughts and beliefs. all depends on personal beliefs. I myself consider gambling just as an exciting game.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: freedomgo on September 20, 2019, 11:49:40 PM
I think Gambling is prohibited in some religious. That's why people who believe in God or believe in the religion doesn’t like gambling. I know, in Islam gambling is Haram. If someone do gambling and lives hos life on that, he will be thrown to hell.
It is true, it is prohibited in Islam but in other religion they don't emphasize that gambling is a sin.
I'm a Christian and I gamble, and my family doesn't mind as my father also gambles, in general it doesn't affect our life, so for me, why should people be prohibited when it's fun to gamble, maybe the measure in some religion is more on preventive and they generalize the solution to the possible problem it will bring because if more gamblers are irresponsible, it will ruin his life and his family, thanks God I am not.

My family also Doesn't support gambling. People here says, they will die without eating but never earn by gambling.                           

If they want to live, gambling is not the solution, people gamble to spend to have fun but not to earn, at least for the majority.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: acroman08 on September 21, 2019, 12:47:10 AM
Well, the words Dirty money is that money came from stolen and something you are committing crimes just for money or those illegal activities that you can earn money. If you had gambled with provably fair with your opponents or even the house edge without cheating the outcome on that is clean money and that is not dirty money. Indeed, the profit on gambling through honest way is not a dirty money.

but some religious people don't care about if the process is fair. the reason why they consider gambling money dirty is because it is said
on they're bible, quran etc.. that gambling is a form of sin which is greed it won't matter to them if it was fair as long as it came from gambling it is a sin for them.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: FlightyPouch on September 21, 2019, 01:22:06 AM
Well, the words Dirty money is that money came from stolen and something you are committing crimes just for money or those illegal activities that you can earn money. If you had gambled with provably fair with your opponents or even the house edge without cheating the outcome on that is clean money and that is not dirty money. Indeed, the profit on gambling through honest way is not a dirty money.

but some religious people don't care about if the process is fair. the reason why they consider gambling money dirty is because it is said
on they're bible, quran etc.. that gambling is a form of sin which is greed it won't matter to them if it was fair as long as it came from gambling it is a sin for them.

As a Filipino, I don't think money from gambling is dirty, unless it is really illegal in your country. In our country, gambling is used widely to pass time, it is even used at nights when there is someone dead, we call that "lamay". It is a tradition in every "lamay" to gamble, either card games sometimes Bingo are being played, accompanied by coffee and biscuits until dawn.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Fundamentals Of on September 21, 2019, 01:27:20 AM
Well, the words Dirty money is that money came from stolen and something you are committing crimes just for money or those illegal activities that you can earn money. If you had gambled with provably fair with your opponents or even the house edge without cheating the outcome on that is clean money and that is not dirty money. Indeed, the profit on gambling through honest way is not a dirty money.

but some religious people don't care about if the process is fair. the reason why they consider gambling money dirty is because it is said
on they're bible, quran etc.. that gambling is a form of sin which is greed it won't matter to them if it was fair as long as it came from gambling it is a sin for them.

That is already a dogma. The problem with these kinds of beliefs is that they are unchangeable, they are already set in stone. In the real world, however, it is not like that. Times are changing, so are systems, fads, cultures, traditions, perspectives, etc. Gambling could have been perceived centuries ago as dirty. Today, it is not like that anymore. Even religious personalities are playing bingo, slot machines, and lotteries. I mean faith should be dynamic also.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: michellee on September 21, 2019, 04:35:46 AM
Well, the words Dirty money is that money came from stolen and something you are committing crimes just for money or those illegal activities that you can earn money. If you had gambled with provably fair with your opponents or even the house edge without cheating the outcome on that is clean money and that is not dirty money. Indeed, the profit on gambling through honest way is not a dirty money.

but some religious people don't care about if the process is fair. the reason why they consider gambling money dirty is because it is said
on they're bible, quran etc.. that gambling is a form of sin which is greed it won't matter to them if it was fair as long as it came from gambling it is a sin for them.

You are right. But if we don't tell where the money is, I think they will not say anything, and we could still give the money to them. I think that will be a solution if one person still wants to donate the money from gambling to them. They will not know about the truth, and we could try to give some money to help them. But that will depend on ourselves on this because some of us will not okay to do that, and besides that, that is the money which comes from gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: MonsterV on September 21, 2019, 04:47:45 AM
but some religious people don't care about if the process is fair. the reason why they consider gambling money dirty is because it is said
on they're bible, quran etc.. that gambling is a form of sin which is greed it won't matter to them if it was fair as long as it came from gambling it is a sin for them.

That is already a dogma. The problem with these kinds of beliefs is that they are unchangeable, they are already set in stone. In the real world, however, it is not like that. Times are changing, so are systems, fads, cultures, traditions, perspectives, etc. Gambling could have been perceived centuries ago as dirty. Today, it is not like that anymore. Even religious personalities are playing bingo, slot machines, and lotteries. I mean faith should be dynamic also.

Indeed it has become a dogma in every religion, where if it is said to be haram it will still be haram, changing times will not change that dogma. And your statement about faith that there is no dynamic faith, if people feel that their faith is dynamic means that they actually don't have faith. Maybe you should study philosophy and understand meaning of faith more deeply.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: jostorres on September 21, 2019, 05:07:38 PM
Like my religion will say, you cannot serve God and mammon. If you are for gambling, then stay for gambling and if your religion is against it, then flee from it. There is no point living a double standard life and living in confusion.

If the reason to play is for money, there are other ways to make money, mustn’t be on gambling alone. I dislike it when people live a confused life. If my culture or belief was against gambling, I would not have any reason to be a part of it. The above poster has explained better on this, that will be like a stain on your personality, so you are advised to quit and focus on your religion.
I don't think there is anyone on earth that will be glad to disobey what their religion is against.  Let's understand that most people do this for money and we can't change that.  You can call it living a two faced life or having double standards and I will say I do not really care what anyone thinks.  

I am not gambling for money, I do it for entertainment even though it is against my belief but I cannot trade my joy for a religious belief that I do not know so much about.  I hope I don't get bashed for this post but this is only my candid opinion. I have some friends that gamble because they are in need and gambling happens to be a sure way to make money, so you will advise them to stay off? Because of personality?  Who cares about personality anyway?  All that matters is the money and nothing else.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Best Dreams on September 21, 2019, 09:20:10 PM
but some religious people don't care about if the process is fair. the reason why they consider gambling money dirty is because it is said
on they're bible, quran etc.. that gambling is a form of sin which is greed it won't matter to them if it was fair as long as it came from gambling it is a sin for them.

That is already a dogma. The problem with these kinds of beliefs is that they are unchangeable, they are already set in stone. In the real world, however, it is not like that. Times are changing, so are systems, fads, cultures, traditions, perspectives, etc. Gambling could have been perceived centuries ago as dirty. Today, it is not like that anymore. Even religious personalities are playing bingo, slot machines, and lotteries. I mean faith should be dynamic also.

Indeed it has become a dogma in every religion, where if it is said to be haram it will still be haram, changing times will not change that dogma. And your statement about faith that there is no dynamic faith, if people feel that their faith is dynamic means that they actually don't have faith. Maybe you should study philosophy and understand meaning of faith more deeply.
Yes different people have different faith related to gambling. They consider it fair and some people consider it as haram. It’s all about religion some does call source of earning and some totally different. People should make clear from their elders of religion before gambling as Faith is recognitions of a nation so better have clear idea about gambling but for me we don’t get in gambling for free we work and earn.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: tvplus006 on September 21, 2019, 10:17:40 PM
I don't think there is anyone on earth that will be glad to disobey what their religion is against.  Let's understand that most people do this for money and we can't change that.  You can call it living a two faced life or having double standards and I will say I do not really care what anyone thinks.  

I am not gambling for money, I do it for entertainment even though it is against my belief but I cannot trade my joy for a religious belief that I do not know so much about.  I hope I don't get bashed for this post but this is only my candid opinion. I have some friends that gamble because they are in need and gambling happens to be a sure way to make money, so you will advise them to stay off? Because of personality?  Who cares about personality anyway?  All that matters is the money and nothing else.

I think that if a person adheres to the rules of his religion, then he will not play gambling. The rest can gamble either for fun or for making money. Because it is very difficult to combine earnings and entertainment.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: lienfaye on September 21, 2019, 10:46:59 PM
I think that if a person adheres to the rules of his religion, then he will not play gambling. The rest can gamble either for fun or for making money. Because it is very difficult to combine earnings and entertainment.
It totally depends on the religion and their belief. There are other ways to entertain ourselves if we are just treating gambling for fun but because there's money to risk it became exciting. In my view, money that earned from gambling is not different in other source to earn, its just that how you accumulate it is more on luck since you have no assurance if you'll going to grow your money or not.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: noormcs5 on September 22, 2019, 05:10:23 AM
I think that if a person adheres to the rules of his religion, then he will not play gambling. The rest can gamble either for fun or for making money. Because it is very difficult to combine earnings and entertainment.
It totally depends on the religion and their belief. There are other ways to entertain ourselves if we are just treating gambling for fun but because there's money to risk it became exciting. In my view, money that earned from gambling is not different in other source to earn, its just that how you accumulate it is more on luck since you have no assurance if you'll going to grow your money or not.

Many people do not care about the religion and only care about what they think is right.
If gambling is not allowed in anyone's religion, then the profit from it will also be wrong and illegal.

Many people think that you should work to get the money and anything which you get from speculation is not the right form of income.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: ReiMomo on September 22, 2019, 05:55:37 AM
I think that if a person adheres to the rules of his religion, then he will not play gambling. The rest can gamble either for fun or for making money. Because it is very difficult to combine earnings and entertainment.
It totally depends on the religion and their belief. There are other ways to entertain ourselves if we are just treating gambling for fun but because there's money to risk it became exciting. In my view, money that earned from gambling is not different in other source to earn, its just that how you accumulate it is more on luck since you have no assurance if you'll going to grow your money or not.
At this era, we can gamble even we are at home, using online crypto gambling websites. There are many gambling sites out there that you can visit if you want without knowing your family even it is against your religious belief. I did not consider that the money we had earned on gambling is dirty money. Yet, it is still considered as a source of income, because that is not a crime.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: madnessteat on September 22, 2019, 05:37:02 PM
I don't understand the distinction between good and bad money. Let's assume that my wallet has 10 notes worth a total of $1,000 and I can't know which ones were used in casinos or illegal cases because I got paid with these notes. When I spend them, other bills will come to me and I won't even think about where they were used before me.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: TIDOVEE on September 22, 2019, 05:51:05 PM
If you want to be religious about gambling, you will not go near gambling at all, because as Islam sees is as a taboo, Christianity doesn't support it scripturally. Well, I don't have a judgement for gamblers because many people see it as one means of living. And whatever you believe in, goes a long way in affecting your life and destiny. That's why a platform is created to discuss religious issue. If you can gamble, go ahead. Then if you can't, leave it.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: semobo on September 22, 2019, 05:54:28 PM
Just get yourself away from the people who sees everything we do in religious manner,it was created for our betterment but if its against our desire then we may ignore them at few things when it is not going to affect anyone in this world.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: spadormie on September 22, 2019, 06:38:08 PM
I get this a lot especially when I'm gambling my money and my mom found out what I did to my money. I don't know why they are calling it. Did I step on somebody? Did I kill somebody to get this? Did I rob something? No, gambling money is not dirty money for me since there is no illegal way of earning it. Unless if gambling is illegal in your country, then that's dirty money. You didn't even reproduce a single bill for it. So why is that a dirty money?


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: diazepam666 on September 22, 2019, 06:53:09 PM
Just get yourself away from the people who sees everything we do in religious manner,it was created for our betterment but if its against our desire then we may ignore them at few things when it is not going to affect anyone in this world.

Whoo come on dude, keep the religious things away from games or anywhere bro. We are on 21st century In this era we are still giving attention such discussion means seriously feeling bad bro.
Some may think that money may have some problem in gambling field but we should see like that
Dirt or whatever, money is money


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Twinkledoe on September 22, 2019, 10:26:18 PM
I get this a lot especially when I'm gambling my money and my mom found out what I did to my money. I don't know why they are calling it. Did I step on somebody? Did I kill somebody to get this? Did I rob something? No, gambling money is not dirty money for me since there is no illegal way of earning it. Unless if gambling is illegal in your country, then that's dirty money. You didn't even reproduce a single bill for it. So why is that a dirty money?

It's not dirty if you think for your particular case. But think as a whole. I'm not saying it's dirty, I'm just saying why the stigma is there. You win because there exists a casino. The casino exists because it is making profits which means someone is losing. So, you are practically winning someone else's money. Same way someone else is winning yours. All because of bad and good "luck" ;) and since it's addicting, it grows and not stops. Hence the stigma.

The stigma that is hard to remove from others because we already grow up with that bad notion. However, if you look at it, casinos that have legal gambling licenses, do you still consider winning from the legal casino to be a dirty money? Of course not. So it is only a matter of perception of others on how to look things in gambling. If you are not doing any harm to anybody and you are gambling and you are getting money out of it. I don't think your winnings should be labeled as dirty money.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: aioc on September 23, 2019, 12:10:37 AM

Quote
I think that if a person adheres to the rules of his religion, then he will not play gambling. The rest can gamble either for fun or for making money. Because it is very difficult to combine earnings and entertainment.

You have to pick between the three if you are a very religious guy I don't think you are going to gamble at all even if a friend invited you in the spirit of fun, if you are gambling for profit, I don't think you will be entertained at all at the thought of losing, and if you are going just to get entertain you will not set up a strategy or method  to win, or it will just defeat the purpose of having fun.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: coin-investor on September 23, 2019, 12:59:45 AM
I don't understand the distinction between good and bad money. Let's assume that my wallet has 10 notes worth a total of $1,000 and I can't know which ones were used in casinos or illegal cases because I got paid with these notes. When I spend them, other bills will come to me and I won't even think about where they were used before me.

People values on the source and how they arrive in their hands if you are a religious person, people of religious nature has a basis on where they are going to receive their money but in these modern civilizations it's really hard to track the source of money, it is changing hands in a matter of hours, if you are a bad person and you want to donate money but the organization don't want it because it's coming from you, he can ask other people to do that for you and they will not know it.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: michellee on September 23, 2019, 02:52:50 AM
I don't understand the distinction between good and bad money. Let's assume that my wallet has 10 notes worth a total of $1,000 and I can't know which ones were used in casinos or illegal cases because I got paid with these notes. When I spend them, other bills will come to me and I won't even think about where they were used before me.

I think the distinction will be about from where the money comes. When money comes from gambling, some people will not think that it is good money. And that is what every religion says, and people can not use bad money for donation because that will reduces the good thing that we will get in our life. But that will depend on each person on how they judge the money comes from, and not all people will judge with hard.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: swogerino on September 23, 2019, 06:08:09 AM
but some religious people don't care about if the process is fair. the reason why they consider gambling money dirty is because it is said
on they're bible, quran etc.. that gambling is a form of sin which is greed it won't matter to them if it was fair as long as it came from gambling it is a sin for them.

That is already a dogma. The problem with these kinds of beliefs is that they are unchangeable, they are already set in stone. In the real world, however, it is not like that. Times are changing, so are systems, fads, cultures, traditions, perspectives, etc. Gambling could have been perceived centuries ago as dirty. Today, it is not like that anymore. Even religious personalities are playing bingo, slot machines, and lotteries. I mean faith should be dynamic also.

Indeed it has become a dogma in every religion, where if it is said to be haram it will still be haram, changing times will not change that dogma. And your statement about faith that there is no dynamic faith, if people feel that their faith is dynamic means that they actually don't have faith. Maybe you should study philosophy and understand meaning of faith more deeply.

This is how every faith looks at gambling,they consider that you are taking other people’s money by illegal means because you are not working hard to earn that money.

They consider that every person should work hard to earn their living but many other people who gamble are not happy with that form of life and consider it some sort of modern slavery.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: leea-1334 on September 23, 2019, 07:14:42 AM
I don't think there is anyone on earth that will be glad to disobey what their religion is against.  Let's understand that most people do this for money and we can't change that.  You can call it living a two faced life or having double standards and I will say I do not really care what anyone thinks.  

Money is the universal religion after all. As much as religion seems to even hate the concept of money and being wealthy,,, we have to find very hard to see a religion that absolutely denounces money. After all, without money religion does not grow and they do not have the power to spread their own fame.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: stadus on September 23, 2019, 10:15:25 AM
I don't think there is anyone on earth that will be glad to disobey what their religion is against.  Let's understand that most people do this for money and we can't change that.  You can call it living a two faced life or having double standards and I will say I do not really care what anyone thinks.  

Money is the universal religion after all. As much as religion seems to even hate the concept of money and being wealthy,,, we have to find very hard to see a religion that absolutely denounces money. After all, without money religion does not grow and they do not have the power to spread their own fame.

Indeed as no religion would not ask for donation from its members or followers, in our country, religion are not even taxable and priest as well so they can maximize their income from donations, it's all about money if we think deeper and I don't believe it sayings that "money is the root cause of all evil" since you can't live a good life without money, it only depends on how you use the instrument, if you use it in bad purpose then you will have to pay the consequences since we have a law, but we can't blame it to money.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: madnessteat on September 23, 2019, 11:22:19 AM
I don't understand the distinction between good and bad money. Let's assume that my wallet has 10 notes worth a total of $1,000 and I can't know which ones were used in casinos or illegal cases because I got paid with these notes. When I spend them, other bills will come to me and I won't even think about where they were used before me.

I think the distinction will be about from where the money comes. When money comes from gambling, some people will not think that it is good money. And that is what every religion says, and people can not use bad money for donation because that will reduces the good thing that we will get in our life. But that will depend on each person on how they judge the money comes from, and not all people will judge with hard.

There are a huge number of companies that accept donations in Bitcoin and they actually don't really care where these Bitcoins come from or whether they're dirty or not. I think so if you use the money for good purposes, it doesn't matter if it's dirty or not.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Juliedarwin on September 23, 2019, 02:37:36 PM
It's all up to you when you hate or do you love and addicted gambling. The people who really Love's and addicted gambling is...they don't mind money where it's came from. But from the people who really hate's gambling for sure they will ask first where the money came from and for sure the first reason that they will put on their mind is the money is from a dirty place where the gamblers are there.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Pab on September 23, 2019, 04:41:08 PM
I think that people are adult and gambling is for adult.Any opportunity what will allow children to gamble has to be banned.Gambling has long history gambling is ancient
There are also many different type of gambling.There are skill games sport betting all f them are related to skills
Time to time i bet on horse racing .I have to use my brain and knowledge when i am doing selections.win is award but win is bargaining me satisfaction
I will rather say that gambling turn in dirty business money stealing.There are offline slots in UK anybody can play even kids that kind of gambling is dirty business and i will ban that
In a case of any others it depends of responsibility.In fact skill gambling is able to develop responsibility


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: semobo on September 24, 2019, 05:50:55 AM
Just get yourself away from the people who sees everything we do in religious manner,it was created for our betterment but if its against our desire then we may ignore them at few things when it is not going to affect anyone in this world.

Whoo come on dude, keep the religious things away from games or anywhere bro. We are on 21st century In this era we are still giving attention such discussion means seriously feeling bad bro.
Some may think that money may have some problem in gambling field but we should see like that
Dirt or whatever, money is money
Its personal opinion to remove religious beliefs from their life but there is no need to confuse religion with everything we do,that's it.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: lablab03 on September 26, 2019, 02:23:38 PM
It depends on Money that they use for gambling. if the money came from a illegal job etc then that's a dirty money because of addiction on gambling some of people doing illegal just like rubbery or etc for just a small amount of money and they try to gambling it.this kind people are those who have a small source of income, and it's depend on what gambling their have and Status of Life they have.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Reatim on September 26, 2019, 02:41:32 PM
It depends on Money that they use for gambling. if the money came from a illegal job etc then that's a dirty money because of addiction on gambling some of people doing illegal just like rubbery,etc for just a small amount of money and they try to gambling it. and it's depend on what gambling their have because There are also many different type of gambling.
Well the topic really stands for religious matter that’s why OP asked if this is Dirty or not

But that’s true that as long as the money is from good source then there’s nothing to think about being dirty

It's all up to you when you hate or do you love and addicted gambling. The people who really Love's and addicted gambling is...they don't mind money where it's came from. But from the people who really hate's gambling for sure they will ask first where the money came from and for sure the first reason that they will put on their mind is the money is from a dirty place where the gamblers are there.
But that’s a specific answer while we are talking about religion connected here .

But still dirty money is from bad earning but if this isn’t legal then it’s not dirty


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Ayiranorea on September 26, 2019, 04:57:37 PM
It depends on Money that they use for gambling. if the money came from a illegal job etc then that's a dirty money because of addiction on gambling some of people doing illegal just like rubbery or etc for just a small amount of money and they try to gambling it.this kind people are those who have a small source of income, and it's depend on what gambling their have and Status of Life they have.
That's almost a perfect statement, if the money spend on gambling is from some illegal activities then it can be termed dirty money. When the same is being spend from one's hard earning then it isn't dirty. I believe Op have missed, easy money is dirty money indicating the earning out of gambling as easy money. As for my view, earning out of gambling is not at all easy money. To earn that users undergo untolerable pressure because we've risked to get back an earning.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: hahay on September 26, 2019, 05:14:08 PM
It's all up to you when you hate or do you love and addicted gambling. The people who really Love's and addicted gambling is...they don't mind money where it's came from. But from the people who really hate's gambling for sure they will ask first where the money came from and for sure the first reason that they will put on their mind is the money is from a dirty place where the gamblers are there.
But that’s a specific answer while we are talking about religion connected here .

But still dirty money is from bad earning but if this isn’t legal then it’s not dirty
How can the money obtained from sources that are not legal then that money is not dirty? Because something illegal is something wrong, regardless of where the money generated from gambling I think is not a problem, because the problem here is that every individual has his own opinion about gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Ryker1 on September 26, 2019, 05:23:24 PM
It depends on Money that they use for gambling. if the money came from a illegal job etc then that's a dirty money because of addiction on gambling some of people doing illegal just like rubbery,etc for just a small amount of money and they try to gambling it. and it's depend on what gambling their have because There are also many different type of gambling.
Well the topic really stands for religious matter that’s why OP asked if this is Dirty or not

But that’s true that as long as the money is from good source then there’s nothing to think about being dirty
Well, the fact that the profits come from all gambling platforms is not dirty money as long as it is not illegal. Correct, this discussion was really matter on what you had belief on religious because there are gamblers that having a different religious belief. There are religious groups that gambling is evil and there is a religious group ignoring gambling so, let's respect each other belief. If we are gambling to be fair and no one hurts while gambling that is considered clean money.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Tungsten-1 on September 26, 2019, 06:11:35 PM
It depends on Money that they use for gambling. if the money came from a illegal job etc then that's a dirty money because of addiction on gambling some of people doing illegal just like rubbery,etc for just a small amount of money and they try to gambling it. and it's depend on what gambling their have because There are also many different type of gambling.
Well the topic really stands for religious matter that’s why OP asked if this is Dirty or not

But that’s true that as long as the money is from good source then there’s nothing to think about being dirty

It's all up to you when you hate or do you love and addicted gambling. The people who really Love's and addicted gambling is...they don't mind money where it's came from. But from the people who really hate's gambling for sure they will ask first where the money came from and for sure the first reason that they will put on their mind is the money is from a dirty place where the gamblers are there.
But that’s a specific answer while we are talking about religion connected here .

But still dirty money is from bad earning but if this isn’t legal then it’s not dirty
Religion and legal concerns are not the same and there are a lot of things which is legal but in religions it’s not acceptable maybe gambling as well.  So if your thinking is to call an illegal things halal it’s not good. I know the money never becomes dirty but the way we use to earn it must be dirty avoid having bad name in gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: FontSeli on September 26, 2019, 06:41:25 PM
It depends on Money that they use for gambling. if the money came from a illegal job etc then that's a dirty money because of addiction on gambling some of people doing illegal just like rubbery or etc for just a small amount of money and they try to gambling it.this kind people are those who have a small source of income, and it's depend on what gambling their have and Status of Life they have.

In my opinion, dirty money can be called only what is obtained by deceiving other people. Many Goverments themselves trade in arms and administer gambling, while prohibiting their citizens from doing the same. That is why I believe that only cheating other people can be an unworthy way to make money. And if the casino does not have special settings to commit fraud, then his money can not be dirty.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Shinpako09 on September 26, 2019, 06:59:30 PM
Nowadays, you need to be more practical in order to live. Although church isn't encouraging people to gamble, some church received donations from lotto winner which is also kind of gambling. Gambling isn't that bad as long as someone get it from legit casino without cheating, then it's not really dirty. I don't see anything wrong accepting a funds that came from gambling if the purpose is for better.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: suzanne5223 on September 26, 2019, 07:27:13 PM
It's all up to you when you hate or do you love and addicted gambling. The people who really Love's and addicted gambling is...they don't mind money where it's came from. But from the people who really hate's gambling for sure they will ask first where the money came from and for sure the first reason that they will put on their mind is the money is from a dirty place where the gamblers are there.
But that’s a specific answer while we are talking about religion connected here .

But still dirty money is from bad earning but if this isn’t legal then it’s not dirty
How can the money obtained from sources that are not legal then that money is not dirty? Because something illegal is something wrong, regardless of where the money generated from gambling I think is not a problem, because the problem here is that every individual has his own opinion about gambling.
I supported what you said because we can't all have the same thought about gambling for whats your food might be someone else poison but logically every money made or earn through something money which is not recognized by the law or country rules are dirty money and the last time I checked gambling are recognized by the law.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Yamifoud on September 26, 2019, 10:02:24 PM
Nowadays, you need to be more practical in order to live. Although church isn't encouraging people to gamble, some church received donations from lotto winner which is also kind of gambling. Gambling isn't that bad as long as someone get it from legit casino without cheating, then it's not really dirty. I don't see anything wrong accepting a funds that came from gambling if the purpose is for better.

if indeed some churches are able to accept donations from lottery players, then the money generated from gambling certainly cannot be said to be dirty money. maybe the church only feels worried if a lot of people or their followers are involved in gambling can have a negative effect especially on the economic side of people who gamble
Churches will accept donations coming from their followers as they give it for good intention and nobody is asking where it comes.
For me, gambling money is not dirty money unless it comes from illegal activities but as I said, nobody knows where it comes until they tell us.

We can't hold others to be in gambling nor to stop them cause they will always find ways to be there and gamble again. Sound like the addiction is hard to control and sad to say that many were fall into that.



Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: freedomgo on September 26, 2019, 10:58:36 PM
Nowadays, you need to be more practical in order to live. Although church isn't encouraging people to gamble, some church received donations from lotto winner which is also kind of gambling. Gambling isn't that bad as long as someone get it from legit casino without cheating, then it's not really dirty. I don't see anything wrong accepting a funds that came from gambling if the purpose is for better.

if indeed some churches are able to accept donations from lottery players, then the money generated from gambling certainly cannot be said to be dirty money. maybe the church only feels worried if a lot of people or their followers are involved in gambling can have a negative effect especially on the economic side of people who gamble
Churches will accept donations coming from their followers as they give it for good intention and nobody is asking where it comes.
For me, gambling money is not dirty money unless it comes from illegal activities but as I said, nobody knows where it comes until they tell us.

We can't hold others to be in gambling nor to stop them cause they will always find ways to be there and gamble again. Sound like the addiction is hard to control and sad to say that many were fall into that.


Churches would not ask where the money came from, they just receive the money as that would help them to continue their mission.
There are some people who get a dirty money and donate some in the church to ease the guilt but that is still money, if God will forgive people, then I don't think the church will judge and question where the money is coming, they are not AMLA who trace the history on how your acquired your money, church doesn't know about money laundering or dirty money.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: batang_bitcoin on September 26, 2019, 11:28:56 PM
Churches will accept donations coming from their followers as they give it for good intention and nobody is asking where it comes.
But I think if there's a hot topic and it was known that the money donated to them comes from illegal activities, they won't hesitate to return it and stop accepting donations from those sources.
And this would depend on the management and officials if they will take it seriously and they still have that integrity and conviction to what they do.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: joromz1226 on September 27, 2019, 01:59:38 AM
I think I would agreed that Gambling money is dirty money, because in most eyes of the people gambling is one of the bad habit,
but for the gamblers it is not, instead gambling was too helpful for them. But real talk most of the gamblers who get rich are most of
the time the rich person also , I think it is very seldom to find out that an ordinary gambler become rich in gambling site whether
online or based land gambling place.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: pieppiep on September 27, 2019, 02:40:34 AM
Churches will accept donations coming from their followers as they give it for good intention and nobody is asking where it comes.
But I think if there's a hot topic and it was known that the money donated to them comes from illegal activities, they won't hesitate to return it and stop accepting donations from those sources.
And this would depend on the management and officials if they will take it seriously and they still have that integrity and conviction to what they do.

That's right. People will not allow donating their money because they are strict with illegal activities. But some people will say that depends on the intention of the heart and as long as they don't tell the source of the money, they think it is okay to donate that money. What I discuss with my friend last night is when we can win from gambling, we can use that money to celebrate, buy some food, enjoy the time together without thinking about donation if we don't want to give the money.

I think that will be as simple as we can think because that will depend on us for what we want to do with the win money. And if you prefer to donate the money, then you better not tell them about the source of the money so they can accept the money without asking too much question.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Ucy on September 27, 2019, 06:32:05 AM
It depends on Money that they use for gambling. if the money came from a illegal job etc then that's a dirty money because of addiction on gambling some of people doing illegal just like rubbery or etc for just a small amount of money and they try to gambling it.this kind people are those who have a small source of income, and it's depend on what gambling their have and Status of Life they have.

In my opinion, dirty money can be called only what is obtained by deceiving other people. Many Goverments themselves trade in arms and administer gambling, while prohibiting their citizens from doing the same. That is why I believe that only cheating other people can be an unworthy way to make money. And if the casino does not have special settings to commit fraud, then his money can not be dirty.

Exactly. There may be distinction between dirty money and money earned through immoral means . Gambling still does not qualify as either the two, depending on laws of nations as it regard gambling. Gambling is really legal where I live. The government even run a lottery program which qualify as gambling




Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: onrise on September 27, 2019, 06:43:05 AM
It's all up to you when you hate or do you love and addicted gambling. The people who really Love's and addicted gambling is...they don't mind money where it's came from. But from the people who really hate's gambling for sure they will ask first where the money came from and for sure the first reason that they will put on their mind is the money is from a dirty place where the gamblers are there.

Their are few reasons which differ from people to people . Firstly if it’s a banned in country and still gambling then people consider it as bad money . Secondly if it’s banned in any religion and still doing then they do consider as bad . Then it’s a individual decision if they find it good or bad .


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: judeafante on September 27, 2019, 06:45:15 AM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?


So many factors and it depends on your status, and the society where you belong, like if you live in a country where shariah is the governing rules and Islam is the religion, you should respect what your religion preach to their followers, but if you are living in a liberal country and where gambling is very prevalent, then I don't think you will consider gambling is dirty money.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: mersal on September 27, 2019, 07:06:02 AM
When you have a clean hand then you no need to worry about where it comes from,only the person who give it to you will go to hell not you. ;D

In the meanwhile some people saying gambling is a sin,many gambling companies were born and successfully running as well means people changing from old age to modern world.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: iMark on September 27, 2019, 08:17:08 AM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?


So many factors and it depends on your status, and the society where you belong, like if you live in a country where shariah is the governing rules and Islam is the religion, you should respect what your religion preach to their followers, but if you are living in a liberal country and where gambling is very prevalent, then I don't think you will consider gambling is dirty money.
Yeah it depends on where you stand, if you believe in your religious teachings then do it and obey it. nobody forces you to play gambling. dirty money or not depends on everyone's perspective, because we know that everyone has various teachings about the law in life of their religion


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: ScamViruS on September 27, 2019, 08:42:03 AM
IMO, gambling money is dirty money,
I am a religious person and don't play gambling very often,
based on the teachings of my religious teacher, that gambling is the root of all causes of violence,
this is what I think is the cause of money from gambling is dirty.

So why are you promoting gambling? Your signature is a gambling site and your payment is coming and that is dirty money too ! I didn't add anything differently, I'm saying from your point of view.

Gambling is happening all over the world. Many people  playing as a fun. I do not feel the need to extend sympathy to those who are addicted to gambling.



Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: batang_bitcoin on September 27, 2019, 09:42:29 AM
Churches will accept donations coming from their followers as they give it for good intention and nobody is asking where it comes.
But I think if there's a hot topic and it was known that the money donated to them comes from illegal activities, they won't hesitate to return it and stop accepting donations from those sources.
And this would depend on the management and officials if they will take it seriously and they still have that integrity and conviction to what they do.

That's right. People will not allow donating their money because they are strict with illegal activities. But some people will say that depends on the intention of the heart and as long as they don't tell the source of the money, they think it is okay to donate that money. What I discuss with my friend last night is when we can win from gambling, we can use that money to celebrate, buy some food, enjoy the time together without thinking about donation if we don't want to give the money.

I think that will be as simple as we can think because that will depend on us for what we want to do with the win money. And if you prefer to donate the money, then you better not tell them about the source of the money so they can accept the money without asking too much question.
The generosity of the giver will be considered but the source should also be taken as a serious matter to consider. But you have answered my worry perfectly, if the church authorities will ask where the source will be and the donator will say it's from his own pocket or just simply tells that there's someone who has a good heart that doesn't want to show up to give that donation.
There's no way for them to figure out where that money came.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Bitinity on September 27, 2019, 10:26:16 AM
IMO, gambling money is dirty money,
I am a religious person and don't play gambling very often,
based on the teachings of my religious teacher, that gambling is the root of all causes of violence,
this is what I think is the cause of money from gambling is dirty.

So why are you promoting gambling? Your signature is a gambling site and your payment is coming and that is dirty money too ! I didn't add anything differently, I'm saying from your point of view.

Gambling is happening all over the world. Many people  playing as a fun. I do not feel the need to extend sympathy to those who are addicted to gambling.

Claiming himself as a religious person who thinks that gambling is a negative thing but he is trying to earn money by applying in a signature campaign of a gambling site. He should not even apply for any campaigns related to gambling if he claims himself as a religious person who is against dirty money. He should not even play any gambling games, he says that he do not play gambling very often means he do it in some opportunities means that his claim to be religious person is just a BS.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: FontSeli on September 27, 2019, 10:36:38 AM
It depends on Money that they use for gambling. if the money came from a illegal job etc then that's a dirty money because of addiction on gambling some of people doing illegal just like rubbery or etc for just a small amount of money and they try to gambling it.this kind people are those who have a small source of income, and it's depend on what gambling their have and Status of Life they have.

In my opinion, dirty money can be called only what is obtained by deceiving other people. Many Goverments themselves trade in arms and administer gambling, while prohibiting their citizens from doing the same. That is why I believe that only cheating other people can be an unworthy way to make money. And if the casino does not have special settings to commit fraud, then his money can not be dirty.

Exactly. There may be distinction between dirty money and money earned through immoral means . Gambling still does not qualify as either the two, depending on laws of nations as it regard gambling. Gambling is really legal where I live. The government even run a lottery program which qualify as gambling

In any case, I don't understand the bias against gambling. Casinos don't make people come and play and lose their money. All people know that casinos exist in order to earn money and not to give it to others and it is very naive to think that you will be able to earn every time coming to the casino. Of course I would not let the casino ludomanov who are sick and lose all their money.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Malsetid on September 27, 2019, 10:40:57 AM
IMO, gambling money is dirty money,
I am a religious person and don't play gambling very often,
based on the teachings of my religious teacher, that gambling is the root of all causes of violence,
this is what I think is the cause of money from gambling is dirty.

So why are you promoting gambling? Your signature is a gambling site and your payment is coming and that is dirty money too ! I didn't add anything differently, I'm saying from your point of view.

Gambling is happening all over the world. Many people  playing as a fun. I do not feel the need to extend sympathy to those who are addicted to gambling.

Claiming himself as a religious person who thinks that gambling is a negative thing but he is trying to earn money by applying in a signature campaign of a gambling site. He should not even apply for any campaigns related to gambling if he claims himself as a religious person who is against dirty money. He should not even play any gambling games, he says that he do not play gambling very often means he do it in some opportunities means that his claim to be religious person is just a BS.

Lol. Talk about getting hit back in the face by a boomerang you threw. That's why you don't include religion in discussions like this. If it's money you've earned honestly, then you have all the right to spend it the way you want to. Especially if you're gambling responsibly. You did't steal, you didn't step on other people, and you know the consequences of your gambling. People shouldn't have a say on it.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Barracuda on September 27, 2019, 11:13:57 AM
IMO, gambling money is dirty money,
I am a religious person and don't play gambling very often,
based on the teachings of my religious teacher, that gambling is the root of all causes of violence,
this is what I think is the cause of money from gambling is dirty.

So why are you promoting gambling? Your signature is a gambling site and your payment is coming and that is dirty money too ! I didn't add anything differently, I'm saying from your point of view.

Gambling is happening all over the world. Many people  playing as a fun. I do not feel the need to extend sympathy to those who are addicted to gambling.



What is done @Renampun actually is not wrong and I do not justify. He only promotes gambling sites but doesn't play, in my opinion that's not wrong either and that could be probably right. In situations like this I am confused, because other people will have different points of view. whether the money we are promoting is dirty money or not.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: ScamViruS on September 27, 2019, 11:59:45 AM

What is done @Renampun actually is not wrong and I do not justify. He only promotes gambling sites but doesn't play, in my opinion that's not wrong either and that could be probably right. In situations like this I am confused, because other people will have different points of view. whether the money we are promoting is dirty money or not.

He/She says gambling money is dirty. Again, he/she is promoting the gambling website itself, meaning that the owner of the site is increasing revenue.

Is this gambling money dirty?

No.

This money is not stolen from anyone.

If you look religiously, then gambling and promoting gambling are the same.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: doomistake on September 27, 2019, 01:19:02 PM
When you have a clean hand then you no need to worry about where it comes from,only the person who give it to you will go to hell not you. ;D


This doesn't make any sense and it is hilarious for you to have this kind of mindset, so are you saying that if a drug lord gave you a huge amount of money, and you are innocent, do you think police would believe you that you are not really involve in some illegal activities? come on, don't make me laugh. Money that comes from any illegal activity, whether you are completely invisible to the authority still, it is consider to be a dirty money since gambling is illegal, no matter what you say about it, and technically, if you touch something dirty, then your hands would be dirty too.

And using these dirty money from gambling or any illegal activity would also make you a bad person that would go to hell even though you are not that one who made that money.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Slow death on September 27, 2019, 02:49:55 PM
If you are a worker and will play against other workers, then your money is clean. if a thief takes the money he steals and goes to play against person X and person X doesn't know that the money from the thief is dirty and person X wins the game and automatically gets the money of the thief, the money that person X win It can't be considered dirty. because person X made the money honestly and didn't know what the thief was doing. Many religious people don't have any morals to criticize gambling, I honestly don't see why we still have to follow certain laws and certain religious things. There are many things that need to change because they no longer make any sense.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: ReiMomo on September 27, 2019, 09:55:19 PM
If you are a worker and will play against other workers, then your money is clean. if a thief takes the money he steals and goes to play against person X and person X doesn't know that the money from the thief is dirty and person X wins the game and automatically gets the money of the thief, the money that person X win It can't be considered dirty. because person X made the money honestly and didn't know what the thief was doing. Many religious people don't have any morals to criticize gambling, I honestly don't see why we still have to follow certain laws and certain religious things. There are many things that need to change because they no longer make any sense.
That good analogy, money did not call dirty as long as this is come from in illegal way of earning. There are religion group that strictly prohibited gambling but if you are a member here don't encourage your self to gain profit in gambling instead, respect them and accept what is the law. However, AFAIK there are gambling sites that have a charity program that helps those are in need. So, I think there's no reason why the money that comes from gambling is dirty. The only dirty money is come from those who are making illegal transactions and make money.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: pixie85 on September 27, 2019, 10:00:04 PM

What is done @Renampun actually is not wrong and I do not justify. He only promotes gambling sites but doesn't play, in my opinion that's not wrong either and that could be probably right. In situations like this I am confused, because other people will have different points of view. whether the money we are promoting is dirty money or not.

He/She says gambling money is dirty. Again, he/she is promoting the gambling website itself, meaning that the owner of the site is increasing revenue.

Is this gambling money dirty?

No.

This money is not stolen from anyone.

If you look religiously, then gambling and promoting gambling are the same.


Gambling money is not stolen either. When you tell the other person the rules and that person still decides to play that's no theft!

What if the game was chess and you were playing for a trophy? It's not gambling and everyone would say that chess is ok. But what if 2 chess players put some money at stake? The winner would take it all and they would both know they're playing for money. Would that be theft and dirty money to you? I see nothing wrong in gambling as long as people are aware of the rules.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Best Dreams on September 29, 2019, 09:05:15 PM
If you are a worker and will play against other workers, then your money is clean. if a thief takes the money he steals and goes to play against person X and person X doesn't know that the money from the thief is dirty and person X wins the game and automatically gets the money of the thief, the money that person X win It can't be considered dirty. because person X made the money honestly and didn't know what the thief was doing. Many religious people don't have any morals to criticize gambling, I honestly don't see why we still have to follow certain laws and certain religious things. There are many things that need to change because they no longer make any sense.
That good analogy, money did not call dirty as long as this is come from in illegal way of earning. There are religion group that strictly prohibited gambling but if you are a member here don't encourage your self to gain profit in gambling instead, respect them and accept what is the law. However, AFAIK there are gambling sites that have a charity program that helps those are in need. So, I think there's no reason why the money that comes from gambling is dirty. The only dirty money is come from those who are making illegal transactions and make money.
Surely it’s important to stay in touch with your religion you will have to follow what your religion allows you. There are ruled that working hard never gives dirty money. While gambling just work with your skills and follow the rules given by the casino or by the site. Be happy if you see gambling is giving you money keep your mind clear and earn fairly.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: STT on September 29, 2019, 09:22:21 PM
I recognize some in a religious way forbid gambling by their followers and that might extend to a nation where the country is a religious state.   I wouldnt argue with those people and their desire to avoid any gambling business, it is their choice and belief to do so.
   However overall I dont look down upon any actual gambling myself, the reasoning I will give is from a finance perspective which is just that risk taking, unknown factors and variable judgement is a normal business decision that is a requirement in every economy.   The only bad gambling to me is where its deceptive and done as a trick then I'd agree it is unfair practice.
   Its possible for any person to lose large amounts in the risks of starting or running a business and by taking the wrong decisions, taking perhaps too much risk but hoping for profit.   We cannot avoid these things, the only good practise to always keep is only risk money you can afford to lose.   That would match the ban on borrowing money on some countries and that makes more sense to me, as that is good practise for a society generally.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: TheCoinGrabber on September 29, 2019, 10:07:22 PM
Gambling money IMHO is only dirty if it was used to launder money from other sources but otherwise, it's money earned like in any other business.

People would spend their money on what they want and I believe they should be allowed unless they are harming others. Removing the outlet from gambling would just push these people towards other vices.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

Now that is just ridiculous. So she'd rather not have books and classrooms then?


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: joshy23 on September 29, 2019, 10:17:38 PM
If you are a worker and will play against other workers, then your money is clean. if a thief takes the money he steals and goes to play against person X and person X doesn't know that the money from the thief is dirty and person X wins the game and automatically gets the money of the thief, the money that person X win It can't be considered dirty. because person X made the money honestly and didn't know what the thief was doing. Many religious people don't have any morals to criticize gambling, I honestly don't see why we still have to follow certain laws and certain religious things. There are many things that need to change because they no longer make any sense.
That good analogy, money did not call dirty as long as this is come from in illegal way of earning. There are religion group that strictly prohibited gambling but if you are a member here don't encourage your self to gain profit in gambling instead, respect them and accept what is the law. However, AFAIK there are gambling sites that have a charity program that helps those are in need. So, I think there's no reason why the money that comes from gambling is dirty. The only dirty money is come from those who are making illegal transactions and make money.
Even this gambling sites do charity works the money that they've used is not belongs to their own pocket but from those addicted gamblers who loses controls and wrecked out of savings after dealing with gambling. There's no reason for this gambling Lord to do such things from there own expense. I'm not against though but pointing my opinion about what you have said.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Jsmbugu on September 29, 2019, 10:24:26 PM
But what that dirty money you saying is from gambling can help poor people and save lives you won't accept it also as a donation after all it's just money doesn't matter where it came from, gambling is just a way to double your money or to lose it all. And a lot of people when they win in jackpots of millions of dollars they always donate a part of it to the people who needs it. If you keep following relegions you will never live your life. That's my opinion because my family is a very religious.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Murat on September 30, 2019, 07:58:23 AM
It's true that money from gambling is not fair money for society. if you talk about religion then gambling money is totally dirty but as a vast industry around the world, so many people are doing this and making money with various type of gambling. If you talk about the dirty of Gambling money then you have to consider also all short of gambling signature campaign, Bounty campaign and all the related things to the gambling. So it's really a tough task to avoid this gambling money. But nowadays gambling is considering as one of the most profitable industries and a lot of people are playing with this, so that things are prohibited by the religion that thing should be avoided.

There are some regulated casinos too. Criminals always use this casino to change their black money for clean funds. In recently the hack from Bangladesh Bank is an example. Most of the funds from this hack went to casino & they gamble the money and change the hands and get away with clean funds.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: YOSHIE on September 30, 2019, 08:46:30 AM
What's the problem with gambling?

Gambling, in gambling games according to people's beliefs as entertainment, but by not violating the laws of every country.
which is often played by people for example (Lottery), some people think the Lottery game can be profitable and make money.

So, playing gambling if I describe it, if it's not excessive spending money, it can't be said of something "evil and dirty".
But what about the activities of people who don't play gambling, then spend money on luxury, eating, shopping unnecessary items, can it be said as "evil and dirty".


Dirty crime, can be done by other means not in the game of "gambling". only.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: bitzizzix on September 30, 2019, 09:12:55 AM
It is difficult for us to understand properly and correctly, but in religious gambling is prohibited on the grounds that it will make dirty money.
it's better to find the truth so that you don't misunderstand about gambling and how to play it that can make dirty money, in my opinion as long as it doesn't harm others for me it's okay.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Questat on September 30, 2019, 09:19:37 AM
So basically, you are saying that poker tournaments where you can win a huge amount of money is dirty money? well if I am the one who's gonna win, I dont mind having a dirty money, I gamble my own money to achieve that. We all have different perspectives, I'm a gambler and I dont think that this is right.

You also don't have to mind people who think that way, that's kind of a stupid thinking.

They are judging in general that what you earn in gambling is a dirty money, and its also possible that the way they look at gamblers, they look them as criminal. Well, let them do the judgement, as the saying goes, you can't please everyone and only those who are close minded are usually not gonna make success in life financially as they are afraid of taking risks.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Klausi on September 30, 2019, 01:38:59 PM
So basically, you are saying that poker tournaments where you can win a huge amount of money is dirty money? well if I am the one who's gonna win, I dont mind having a dirty money, I gamble my own money to achieve that. We all have different perspectives, I'm a gambler and I dont think that this is right.

You also don't have to mind people who think that way, that's kind of a stupid thinking.

They are judging in general that what you earn in gambling is a dirty money, and its also possible that the way they look at gamblers, they look them as criminal. Well, let them do the judgement, as the saying goes, you can't please everyone and only those who are close minded are usually not gonna make success in life financially as they are afraid of taking risks.

The majority of society makes money by normal jobs, anything like, street vendors, secretary, cashier, etc. and they don't see gambling as a way to earn legal money. The Government is against gambling casinos who doesn't have any legal papers, so earning money by gambling means dirty money to them, but it does make sense because if it is illegal, then it is dirty, it doesn't matter hoe much you are winning because it is dirty money for them


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Meowth05 on September 30, 2019, 02:04:23 PM
Gambling is a worldwide industry, lots of people enjoy gambling. I disagree, I don’t see it as any kind of taboo or terrible thing. People lose money gambling, sure. People win lots too, I don’t feel sorry for people who become addicted to gambling, these kind of people are weak. You are the master of your own life.
Yeah you're right but admit the fact that there are some countries who prohibit this kind of activity, for them it was a crime and if it is a crim then it is dirty money. However, in my case the money came from gambling is not dirty but rather its opposite. Some countries see gambling as beneficial in the way of it could affect upon their economic status. In conclusion, the perspective on gambling varies depends on the place where we belong so we cannot fully tell if the money came from it is dirty or not.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: stephanirain on September 30, 2019, 02:58:51 PM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/



Because gambling isn't just a game anymore; it's a dynamic industry and most of the time, it has negative-sum effect on its people. "Dirty" by means of the money you can get from the gambling is from the loss of many, is subjective and cultural view of the matter. These difference in views and cultural perspective divides the role of gambling as entertainment and as way of living. Though there are also people nowadays who consider gambling as both for entertainment and income generating activity. But in the end, money is still money.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Apes on September 30, 2019, 03:24:31 PM
for religious people if linking gambling with religion certainly considers gambling to be prohibited and gambling money is dirty.
but in general gambling in the community has become a habit and culture, so they have not thought about the religion prohibition
because gambling is a common thing, like their parents did.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Eugenar on September 30, 2019, 03:30:33 PM
It depends on Money that they use for gambling. if the money came from a illegal job etc then that's a dirty money because of addiction on gambling some of people doing illegal just like rubbery or etc for just a small amount of money and they try to gambling it.this kind people are those who have a small source of income, and it's depend on what gambling their have and Status of Life they have.

In my opinion, dirty money can be called only what is obtained by deceiving other people. Many Goverments themselves trade in arms and administer gambling, while prohibiting their citizens from doing the same. That is why I believe that only cheating other people can be an unworthy way to make money. And if the casino does not have special settings to commit fraud, then his money can not be dirty.

Exactly. There may be distinction between dirty money and money earned through immoral means . Gambling still does not qualify as either the two, depending on laws of nations as it regard gambling. Gambling is really legal where I live. The government even run a lottery program which qualify as gambling



Indeed, it all depends on the country where you belong. We all have different teachings and culture, if you gamble to earn money yet you live in a place where it considered as a crime then it is dirty but if you live in a place where it is legal then we cannot classify it as dirty. Just like you our government runs a lottery program and sometime the money coming from it use in a charity program or basically used for a good cause. We shouldn't insist our personal ideas because we all have different perspective.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: efrenbilantok on September 30, 2019, 03:36:31 PM
It is not dirty money as if it is stolen from someone, both parties agree to play the rule of whoever loses in the game will pay accordingly to their agreement. So there is no dirty thing about that when there is no stolen money involve.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: posi on September 30, 2019, 03:42:51 PM
What's the problem with gambling?

Gambling, in gambling games according to people's beliefs as entertainment, but by not violating the laws of every country.
which is often played by people for example (Lottery), some people think the Lottery game can be profitable and make money.

So, playing gambling if I describe it, if it's not excessive spending money, it can't be said of something "evil and dirty".
But what about the activities of people who don't play gambling, then spend money on luxury, eating, shopping unnecessary items, can it be said as "evil and dirty".



In my opinion, I don't support gambling money to be dirty since the government is not against it but gambling money was said to be dirty money because 95% of gamblers are into the reward involve and "the love of money is the root of all evil". which literally affect some gambler physically and emotionally.

Dirty crime, can be done by other means not in the game of "gambling". only.
Dirty money can be earn by other aspects which is why I don't believe gambling money to be dirty.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: iv4n on September 30, 2019, 05:36:04 PM
There is a saying, easy come easy go. Money earned fast, will be spent fast. Why gambling is dirty money, before majority of gamblers were criminals, and mostly casinos were working underground. But that was before Las Vegas, and before gambling became mainstream. Now gambling is legal in most of the countries, we have casinos on every corner, add to that online gambling. Ordinary people can gamble freely, they don't need to be big players, now it's easy to put couple dollars on a side from salary and gamble with that.
Now gambling is one of the biggest industries, and it's growing. What was in the dark before came out to the light. Gambling is not dirty money anymore, if you have money you can spent it on gambling and it's your choice, there's nothing dirty in that.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: rizkyrz on October 01, 2019, 12:31:33 AM
I would say Gambling is dirty money based on certain religious teachings. however, it cannot be disguised by everyone. gambling in various countries becomes a legal thing and this is the right of individual privacy to find income. for gamblers, don't be overly responded if it says the money you have is dirty money because everyone also has the right to say something according to their argument.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: samputin on October 01, 2019, 01:07:12 AM
I would say Gambling is dirty money based on certain religious teachings. however, it cannot be disguised by everyone. gambling in various countries becomes a legal thing and this is the right of individual privacy to find income. for gamblers, don't be overly responded if it says the money you have is dirty money because everyone also has the right to say something according to their argument.
Yes, it all depends on a person's perspective. If you are a religious person wherein gambling is not allowed in your religion, then your mind set will probably indicate that gambling money is definitely a dirty money. But on the other hand, other people has different opinion on things. Besides, gambling has many forms. For example, lottery.

Lottery is played by many people even those religious ones. So at some point, they gamble as well and when they win, I don't think they consider their price money as a dirty money. With that, we cannot always conclude that the money earned through gambling is filthy.

Gambling is broad and as I have said, people will always have something to say about something. Let's respect theirs so they can also respect ours.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: maydna on October 01, 2019, 02:45:17 AM
I would say Gambling is dirty money based on certain religious teachings. however, it cannot be disguised by everyone. gambling in various countries becomes a legal thing and this is the right of individual privacy to find income. for gamblers, don't be overly responded if it says the money you have is dirty money because everyone also has the right to say something according to their argument.

I guess people who gamble knows that gambling is dirty money, but because they are curious about the game, they tried to play for once. Later, they find that the games were very attractive, so they decide to play another game. And in the end, they playing gambling in almost every day and many of them become addicted to gambling.

Yes, we need to know that every people will have different views on gambling. And some of us will say that gambling is one activity that requires money to play, and that is dirty money. If we still want to play gambling, you can do that but only with caution because betting can make you addicted and you will lose your money.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Questat on October 01, 2019, 02:55:10 AM
So basically, you are saying that poker tournaments where you can win a huge amount of money is dirty money? well if I am the one who's gonna win, I dont mind having a dirty money, I gamble my own money to achieve that. We all have different perspectives, I'm a gambler and I dont think that this is right.

You also don't have to mind people who think that way, that's kind of a stupid thinking.

They are judging in general that what you earn in gambling is a dirty money, and its also possible that the way they look at gamblers, they look them as criminal. Well, let them do the judgement, as the saying goes, you can't please everyone and only those who are close minded are usually not gonna make success in life financially as they are afraid of taking risks.

The majority of society makes money by normal jobs, anything like, street vendors, secretary, cashier, etc. and they don't see gambling as a way to earn legal money. The Government is against gambling casinos who doesn't have any legal papers, so earning money by gambling means dirty money to them, but it does make sense because if it is illegal, then it is dirty, it doesn't matter hoe much you are winning because it is dirty money for them

It's not them who will make a rules, if the government allows gambling then we should not be guilty of what we are doing.
Beside if we make a bad move like violating the law, who would suffer the consequences? them or us? of course us, so we should not mind them.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: rizkyrz on October 01, 2019, 03:33:20 AM
I would say Gambling is dirty money based on certain religious teachings. however, it cannot be disguised by everyone. gambling in various countries becomes a legal thing and this is the right of individual privacy to find income. for gamblers, don't be overly responded if it says the money you have is dirty money because everyone also has the right to say something according to their argument.

I guess people who gamble knows that gambling is dirty money, but because they are curious about the game, they tried to play for once. Later, they find that the games were very attractive, so they decide to play another game. And in the end, they playing gambling in almost every day and many of them become addicted to gambling.

Yes, we need to know that every people will have different views on gambling. And some of us will say that gambling is one activity that requires money to play, and that is dirty money. If we still want to play gambling, you can do that but only with caution because betting can make you addicted and you will lose your money.
If all gambling players really think that way there should be no offense about "dirty money" embedded in them. gambling makes our psychology believe that we will always win, even though many consequences are obtained if we are not ready and without preparation. Gambling needs money, there are gamblers who when they run out of money as capital they choose to borrow from other people, banks or others. in my opinion, this is a very wrong thing. when borrowing money and what happens is that it can't return it, this is where bad things start as a gambler.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: tsaroz on October 01, 2019, 03:50:04 AM
I would say Gambling is dirty money based on certain religious teachings. however, it cannot be disguised by everyone. gambling in various countries becomes a legal thing and this is the right of individual privacy to find income. for gamblers, don't be overly responded if it says the money you have is dirty money because everyone also has the right to say something according to their argument.

I guess people who gamble knows that gambling is dirty money, but because they are curious about the game, they tried to play for once. Later, they find that the games were very attractive, so they decide to play another game. And in the end, they playing gambling in almost every day and many of them become addicted to gambling.

Yes, we need to know that every people will have different views on gambling. And some of us will say that gambling is one activity that requires money to play, and that is dirty money. If we still want to play gambling, you can do that but only with caution because betting can make you addicted and you will lose your money.
If all gambling players really think that way there should be no offense about "dirty money" embedded in them. gambling makes our psychology believe that we will always win, even though many consequences are obtained if we are not ready and without preparation. Gambling needs money, there are gamblers who when they run out of money as capital they choose to borrow from other people, banks or others. in my opinion, this is a very wrong thing. when borrowing money and what happens is that it can't return it, this is where bad things start as a gambler.

The thing that you said is just for a person with wrong schooling and lack of self control. There are several types of people in the world and the same thing might not be applicable for all of them. Even alcohol is considered a good or bad according to the people and situation of it's use.
For anyone who is spending his/her self earned money to have some entertainment, there's nothing wrong on gambling. There are much worse things people may do to spend their spare time and have some fun.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: rizkyrz on October 01, 2019, 05:00:54 AM
I would say Gambling is dirty money based on certain religious teachings. however, it cannot be disguised by everyone. gambling in various countries becomes a legal thing and this is the right of individual privacy to find income. for gamblers, don't be overly responded if it says the money you have is dirty money because everyone also has the right to say something according to their argument.

I guess people who gamble knows that gambling is dirty money, but because they are curious about the game, they tried to play for once. Later, they find that the games were very attractive, so they decide to play another game. And in the end, they playing gambling in almost every day and many of them become addicted to gambling.

Yes, we need to know that every people will have different views on gambling. And some of us will say that gambling is one activity that requires money to play, and that is dirty money. If we still want to play gambling, you can do that but only with caution because betting can make you addicted and you will lose your money.
If all gambling players really think that way there should be no offense about "dirty money" embedded in them. gambling makes our psychology believe that we will always win, even though many consequences are obtained if we are not ready and without preparation. Gambling needs money, there are gamblers who when they run out of money as capital they choose to borrow from other people, banks or others. in my opinion, this is a very wrong thing. when borrowing money and what happens is that it can't return it, this is where bad things start as a gambler.

The thing that you said is just for a person with wrong schooling and lack of self control. There are several types of people in the world and the same thing might not be applicable for all of them. Even alcohol is considered a good or bad according to the people and situation of it's use.
For anyone who is spending his/her self earned money to have some entertainment, there's nothing wrong on gambling. There are much worse things people may do to spend their spare time and have some fun.
You're right if everyone is able to control themselves well. but, we cannot eliminate the fact that many cannot control themselves well. I'm not talking about a person's background from how his school or education is, about psychology is even more complicated.

if everyone in the world is able to control himself, then there won't be a bad case regarding gambling. to emphasize, I'm not saying gambling is a bad thing. it all depends on each personality.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Farma on October 01, 2019, 05:02:20 AM
those who have religion will say that it is dirty money. Well, this response has been around a long time ago. but, many people have hobbies like that and ignore them. even in my place, when you are caught playing gambling, you will be violated by the law. but, there are still many who disagree with it, many of them say that gambling is not a dirty money. I can only draw the conclusion that many people have different opinions about this, depending on their respective beliefs.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: owengtam09 on October 01, 2019, 08:09:41 AM
Gambling is bad depends on your religions. Since I am not religious because, in my opinion, religions can not save us. Our own faith will save us and not religions. Gambling is bad depends on our perspective and in my opinion, I don't think that gambling money is dirty money. We play gambling because we have our own reasons, sometimes we want to be entertained and most of the time, we want to win. As long as we don't hurt somebody then there are no bad doings.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Genemind on October 01, 2019, 08:54:57 AM
I think this topic is more on religious point of view. In some religion it is really taboo to gamble with money. That is why they think that gambling money is bad money. But, we are in a modern era now and gambling had became as a form of entertainment and even as a business.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Malsetid on October 01, 2019, 09:27:20 AM
I think this topic is more on religious point of view. In some religion it is really taboo to gamble with money. That is why they think that gambling money is bad money. But, we are in a modern era now and gambling had became as a form of entertainment and even as a business.

You're right, though it also has a lot do with the fact that a lot of people have had their lives ruined by irresponsible gambling. That placed the act itself in a bad light. Being a responsible gambler should excempt you from people's judgment since it's your own money that you're spending. If you're stealing money to fund your gambling deeds, then that's the time it should count as dirty money.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: BitcoinHunt3r on October 01, 2019, 09:33:35 AM
those who have religion will say that it is dirty money. Well, this response has been around a long time ago. but, many people have hobbies like that and ignore them. even in my place, when you are caught playing gambling, you will be violated by the law. but, there are still many who disagree with it, many of them say that gambling is not a dirty money. I can only draw the conclusion that many people have different opinions about this, depending on their respective beliefs.
Maybe with that, people can learn to respect each others. I mean, actually people still can get friendship although have different perspective. But, as long we not interfere other people's business especially about beliefs, i think they wouldn't disturb us about what they believe.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: SIHIN on October 01, 2019, 11:10:22 AM
those who have religion will say that it is dirty money. Well, this response has been around a long time ago. but, many people have hobbies like that and ignore them. even in my place, when you are caught playing gambling, you will be violated by the law. but, there are still many who disagree with it, many of them say that gambling is not a dirty money. I can only draw the conclusion that many people have different opinions about this, depending on their respective beliefs.
Maybe with that, people can learn to respect each others. I mean, actually people still can get friendship although have different perspective. But, as long we not interfere other people's business especially about beliefs, i think they wouldn't disturb us about what they believe.
I also think that when people are religious or fear God, they will stay away from things called gambling and say it's haram or hot money.  so indeed we cannot forbid everyone's desire not to gamble.  but we can live in harmony and not make them enemies.  I was a tough gambler at that time, gambling money was a good thing for me.  but when I'm close to religion or a catalyst for repentance I don't like it anymore.  but I was there at that time.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: peter0425 on October 01, 2019, 11:36:28 AM
those who have religion will say that it is dirty money. Well, this response has been around a long time ago. but, many people have hobbies like that and ignore them. even in my place, when you are caught playing gambling, you will be violated by the law. but, there are still many who disagree with it, many of them say that gambling is not a dirty money. I can only draw the conclusion that many people have different opinions about this, depending on their respective beliefs.
If you are a law abiding citizen the you must follow what the government tells you because not following them will result for much bad outcome

If you want to gamble legally then better change place or country mate



Gambling money turns dirty if this was illegally acquired and doing this in countries that prohibiting gambling is also a dirty money


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: diazepam666 on October 01, 2019, 07:18:41 PM
those who have religion will say that it is dirty money. Well, this response has been around a long time ago. but, many people have hobbies like that and ignore them. even in my place, when you are caught playing gambling, you will be violated by the law. but, there are still many who disagree with it, many of them say that gambling is not a dirty money. I can only draw the conclusion that many people have different opinions about this, depending on their respective beliefs.
If you are a law abiding citizen the you must follow what the government tells you because not following them will result for much bad outcome

If you want to gamble legally then better change place or country mate



Gambling money turns dirty if this was illegally acquired and doing this in countries that prohibiting gambling is also a dirty money

I believe this is the worst ever idea which is suggested by this forum member. if you really care that person in it give some strategy or any to give some software tool to access via VPN or some other stuffs.
Instead I am not sure how we have shared them to shift is location that too do for another country. Which is not fine to work at all.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: bharal07 on October 01, 2019, 07:58:53 PM
Gambling is a source of money but you have to work hard at gambling, there are only two reasons why people gambling first when other people don't have money? others have money but it is not enough for him, so it will gambling to increase the money he holds, but he may lose the money he holds if he loses the gambling. But if he does win, he may even have more money.

And the second was a man of great life and much money and almost everything he had. And because he is so rich that his life is boring, so what the rich people do is gambling because even if they lose the gambling they don't care because they are rich, and he still helps because he loses. Why? because he lost someone else won.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Twinkledoe on October 01, 2019, 08:07:32 PM
those who have religion will say that it is dirty money. Well, this response has been around a long time ago. but, many people have hobbies like that and ignore them. even in my place, when you are caught playing gambling, you will be violated by the law. but, there are still many who disagree with it, many of them say that gambling is not a dirty money. I can only draw the conclusion that many people have different opinions about this, depending on their respective beliefs.
Maybe with that, people can learn to respect each others. I mean, actually people still can get friendship although have different perspective. But, as long we not interfere other people's business especially about beliefs, i think they wouldn't disturb us about what they believe.
I also think that when people are religious or fear God, they will stay away from things called gambling and say it's haram or hot money.  so indeed we cannot forbid everyone's desire not to gamble.  but we can live in harmony and not make them enemies.  I was a tough gambler at that time, gambling money was a good thing for me.  but when I'm close to religion or a catalyst for repentance I don't like it anymore.  but I was there at that time.

Not all religion has that kind of belief. So if you are devoted to your religion, it is your choice and one should respect others' faith also. For me, as long as you are not harming anyone and you are playing according to the rules, then, by all means, I will not consider gambling money as dirty money. Gambling has been here centuries ago, no religion or with religion, they gamble. So it is up to you what you do with your life but don't disrespect other people when it comes to gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: suzanne5223 on October 01, 2019, 09:02:11 PM
I would say Gambling is dirty money based on certain religious teachings. however, it cannot be disguised by everyone. gambling in various countries becomes a legal thing and this is the right of individual privacy to find income. for gamblers, don't be overly responded if it says the money you have is dirty money because everyone also has the right to say something according to their argument.

I guess people who gamble knows that gambling is dirty money, but because they are curious about the game, they tried to play for once. Later, they find that the games were very attractive, so they decide to play another game. And in the end, they playing gambling in almost every day and many of them become addicted to gambling.
Gambling game curiosity was not what leads to addiction of most gamblers who are gambling addicted today because the reward involves, the act of playing to recover losses and unable to buzz was the major things that cause addiction.


Yes, we need to know that every people will have different views on gambling. And some of us will say that gambling is one activity that requires money to play, and that is dirty money. If we still want to play gambling, you can do that but only with caution because betting can make you addicted and you will lose your money.
Gambling is also an investment whereby the player has to use their money to make money but you're right we can't all have the same view about gambling and new gamblers need to know how to gamble profitably in other not to be addicted.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: STT on October 01, 2019, 10:26:23 PM
The idea of gambling as a negative is when its considered a society negative, creating no positive to it like most industry and maybe even extracting money from an area to outside interests rather any idea of reinvestment.
  It doesnt have to be true but government lotterys typically carry some idea of passing some of the profits onto local projects.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: kodtycoon on October 01, 2019, 10:36:19 PM
The idea of gambling as a negative is when its considered a society negative, creating no positive to it like most industry and maybe even extracting money from an area to outside interests rather any idea of reinvestment.
  It doesnt have to be true but government lotterys typically carry some idea of passing some of the profits onto local projects.

most countries or governments have bans on gambling, but on the other hand not all people consider gambling to be a negative thing. so thus, the assumption gambling is dirty money is only a one sided idea, because in many gamblers views, gambling is a lucky game that might have good benefits for them


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Pearls Before Swine on October 02, 2019, 12:13:07 AM
My mother considered gambling as playing with money.
She's correct, but whether that's an inherently bad thing is another issue. 

My opinion is that gambling has its dangers of course, but any winnings you end up taking away from the casino aren't dirty at all.  Drug money I would consider dirty.  Money that was gained from a robbery or some other theft, same thing.  Gambling winnings?  Hey man, you earned that.  I'm aware that there are a lot of members in the gambling section from eastern and other countries where perception might be different, but if you asked anyone in Las Vegas this question they would laugh in your face or simply ignore you with a disgusted look on their face.

Gambling money turns dirty if this was illegally acquired and doing this in countries that prohibiting gambling is also a dirty money
Not so sure about that.  Some laws are meant to be broken, and even if someone won a jackpot in a country in which they were not supposed to be gambling I would still consider that 'clean'.  Nobody was harmed, therefore no foul.

I also think that when people are religious or fear God, they will stay away from things called gambling and say it's haram or hot money. 
You do realize that many people who believe in a god are not muslim, right?  And personally I don't think if there is a god that he cares about someone winning some money playing cards, slots, or whatever.  It's a pretty small sin, no?


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: rizkyrz on October 02, 2019, 12:54:22 AM
The idea of gambling as a negative is when its considered a society negative, creating no positive to it like most industry and maybe even extracting money from an area to outside interests rather any idea of reinvestment.
  It doesnt have to be true but government lotterys typically carry some idea of passing some of the profits onto local projects.

most countries or governments have bans on gambling, but on the other hand not all people consider gambling to be a negative thing. so thus, the assumption gambling is dirty money is only a one sided idea, because in many gamblers views, gambling is a lucky game that might have good benefits for them
Yes, everyone has different views and we must respect that. there is a legal and illegal place for gambling, it's a common thing that often happens in this world. there are those who consider gambling as entertainment when they are tired of working, there are also those who seek income from it. everyone is free to judge what it is like.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: maydna on October 02, 2019, 02:37:14 AM
If all gambling players really think that way there should be no offense about "dirty money" embedded in them. gambling makes our psychology believe that we will always win, even though many consequences are obtained if we are not ready and without preparation. Gambling needs money, there are gamblers who when they run out of money as capital they choose to borrow from other people, banks or others. in my opinion, this is a very wrong thing. when borrowing money and what happens is that it can't return it, this is where bad things start as a gambler.

Yes, that will exist for people who don't play gamblers because they will think that the money from gambling is not good money and they should avoid it. But they don't have to force every people or gambler to agree with them because the gamblers will not think about the "clean money" or "dirty money." They will only think that they want to play gambling, and I have money. I can spend all the money or make a limit the money even they know about "clean and dirty money."

I never suggest to my friends to borrow money from other people because I always tell them that they will not know if they can repay the money or not. I always suggest them to use the money they can afford to play gambling and stop while you can.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: rizkyrz on October 02, 2019, 05:54:22 AM
If all gambling players really think that way there should be no offense about "dirty money" embedded in them. gambling makes our psychology believe that we will always win, even though many consequences are obtained if we are not ready and without preparation. Gambling needs money, there are gamblers who when they run out of money as capital they choose to borrow from other people, banks or others. in my opinion, this is a very wrong thing. when borrowing money and what happens is that it can't return it, this is where bad things start as a gambler.

Yes, that will exist for people who don't play gamblers because they will think that the money from gambling is not good money and they should avoid it. But they don't have to force every people or gambler to agree with them because the gamblers will not think about the "clean money" or "dirty money." They will only think that they want to play gambling, and I have money. I can spend all the money or make a limit the money even they know about "clean and dirty money."

I never suggest to my friends to borrow money from other people because I always tell them that they will not know if they can repay the money or not. I always suggest them to use the money they can afford to play gambling and stop while you can.
You are a good person if you advise your friends not to borrow money from others just for gambling capital. In this world many people do not think long about the consequences of a decision. however, there are always people who are wise in making decisions.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: sweetbet on October 02, 2019, 09:57:35 PM
It's funny that many people think that gambling money is dirty but everyone is happy to receive money without asking where it came from. Lottery prizes are basically gambling money that everyone is happy to accept. Selecting a set of numbers and buying a ticket in the hope of winning, is the equivalent of wagering on the Roulette wheel.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: STT on October 03, 2019, 12:15:14 AM
Quote
most countries or governments have bans on gambling

I dont think thats true, the rule of death and taxes says gambling is more likely then not to be taxed and used by governments to survive recessions which destroy or greatly diminish the revenues from most business.   In most countries a company will pay no taxes when it is without profits, quite common in a recession very many businesses will make no profits.   This then leaves the government with many liabilities but no tax revenue left in order to pay them, what is a poor country to do especially where unable to borrow as many rich countries can.
   Gambling, smoking, alcohol and a few rare industries survive recessions and are taxable always and considered a valuable contributor through thick and thin to government fiscal budgetting, vital to the health of a country in an ironic way the gaming industry is sometimes very much needed.    If the government isnt running the lottery you can bet they take a cut from the books of gambling and take it quite seriously for its reliable business.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: maydna on October 03, 2019, 12:16:33 AM
You are a good person if you advise your friends not to borrow money from others just for gambling capital. In this world many people do not think long about the consequences of a decision. however, there are always people who are wise in making decisions.
 The problem is that we are not certain about winning, we can win and lose as both have equal chances. Right now I think it is not good to take money just for gambling as you don’t even know what is going to happen. Better work by yourself collect money and then invest your money in gambling it could be more profitable and safe.

Both of you are right. We know that it's not advisable to borrow money from others. We will be carrying a big responsibility to repay that money. That will become difficult if we lose all that money in gambling. Knowing our limit will be necessary, so we can know what we need to do regarding playing gambling, and we can prevent the big lose in gambling. It is difficult for us to recover the losing money, especially if we continue playing gambling without stop.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: carlisle1 on October 03, 2019, 12:52:02 AM
those who have religion will say that it is dirty money. Well, this response has been around a long time ago. but, many people have hobbies like that and ignore them. even in my place, when you are caught playing gambling, you will be violated by the law. but, there are still many who disagree with it, many of them say that gambling is not a dirty money. I can only draw the conclusion that many people have different opinions about this, depending on their respective beliefs.
Maybe with that, people can learn to respect each others. I mean, actually people still can get friendship although have different perspective. But, as long we not interfere other people's business especially about beliefs, i think they wouldn't disturb us about what they believe.
I also think that when people are religious or fear God, they will stay away from things called gambling and say it's haram or hot money.  so indeed we cannot forbid everyone's desire not to gamble.  but we can live in harmony and not make them enemies.  I was a tough gambler at that time, gambling money was a good thing for me.  but when I'm close to religion or a catalyst for repentance I don't like it anymore.  but I was there at that time.
Then let me congratulate you from being a “Ex Gambler” as we already knew how the desire for this game is irresistible and many has tried but fails to leave the table for life

I admire your story as religion does not changed you but your desire to believe what is true who does

Rules wasn’t that enough to prevent people from doing such but at least it makes peopl hav a second though a bout matters



For me even if I am A Gambler sometimes yet I stand that Gambling money is Dirty by all means and in time I want to be like to do what SIHIN does ,leaves gambling and stay away for life


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Ewox on October 03, 2019, 02:36:12 AM
Well it actually depends on the culture you grew up with, but there are some who consider on not following the norms and are modern. I for instance am a person of culture and my parents also think the same way as of your culture in which gambling money is dirty money but I think if it’s used for buying food on the table then it is fine though.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: btc78 on October 03, 2019, 03:46:31 AM
The idea of gambling as a negative is when its considered a society negative, creating no positive to it like most industry and maybe even extracting money from an area to outside interests rather any idea of reinvestment.
  It doesnt have to be true but government lotterys typically carry some idea of passing some of the profits onto local projects.
Ofcourse other interests are welcome in gambling because this only turns bad if you live in it.but if you considered this as enjoyable and not for profiteering then that interest won’t bring Dirty to the money got from betting,there’s a lose and wins but what’s important is the fun.

Forget the needs to fed family from gambling because there are lots of field to earn in right manner than this


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: rizkyrz on October 03, 2019, 06:38:59 AM
If all gambling players really think that way there should be no offense about "dirty money" embedded in them. gambling makes our psychology believe that we will always win, even though many consequences are obtained if we are not ready and without preparation. Gambling needs money, there are gamblers who when they run out of money as capital they choose to borrow from other people, banks or others. in my opinion, this is a very wrong thing. when borrowing money and what happens is that it can't return it, this is where bad things start as a gambler.

Yes, that will exist for people who don't play gamblers because they will think that the money from gambling is not good money and they should avoid it. But they don't have to force every people or gambler to agree with them because the gamblers will not think about the "clean money" or "dirty money." They will only think that they want to play gambling, and I have money. I can spend all the money or make a limit the money even they know about "clean and dirty money."

I never suggest to my friends to borrow money from other people because I always tell them that they will not know if they can repay the money or not. I always suggest them to use the money they can afford to play gambling and stop while you can.
You are a good person if you advise your friends not to borrow money from others just for gambling capital. In this world many people do not think long about the consequences of a decision. however, there are always people who are wise in making decisions.
 The problem is that we are not certain about winning, we can win and lose as both have equal chances. Right now I think it is not good to take money just for gambling as you don’t even know what is going to happen. Better work by yourself collect money and then invest your money in gambling it could be more profitable and safe.
make gambling as entertainment do not make the main source of income. like you said gambling has the same win / lose chance. looking for a main job that provides daily / monthly income then investing it is far better for financially.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: FontSeli on October 03, 2019, 07:07:49 PM
It's funny that many people think that gambling money is dirty but everyone is happy to receive money without asking where it came from. Lottery prizes are basically gambling money that everyone is happy to accept. Selecting a set of numbers and buying a ticket in the hope of winning, is the equivalent of wagering on the Roulette wheel.

People think so primarily because in order for one person to win at roulette, another person has to lose their money. Also, a lot of people suffering from ludomania, and lose the last money in the casino and the administration can not prevent them.
Also, casinos used to be controlled by criminal gangs who laundered their criminal money there. Probably the concept of "dirty money" went from that time.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Ayiranorea on October 04, 2019, 12:22:48 AM
It's funny that many people think that gambling money is dirty but everyone is happy to receive money without asking where it came from. Lottery prizes are basically gambling money that everyone is happy to accept. Selecting a set of numbers and buying a ticket in the hope of winning, is the equivalent of wagering on the Roulette wheel.

People think so primarily because in order for one person to win at roulette, another person has to lose their money. Also, a lot of people suffering from ludomania, and lose the last money in the casino and the administration can not prevent them.
Also, casinos used to be controlled by criminal gangs who laundered their criminal money there. Probably the concept of "dirty money" went from that time.
When we talk about the dirty money, here we discussed about the laundered money out of criminal activities. When we take into calculation on this, it'll be very less compared to the corruption money which is truly the dirty money. Because it is people's money getting accumulated with a single person. So, if we think about dirty money and play, it is quite hard to spend on gambling, because every money in one way or other has little dirt.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: maydna on October 04, 2019, 12:27:09 AM
make gambling as entertainment do not make the main source of income. like you said gambling has the same win / lose chance. looking for a main job that provides daily / monthly income then investing it is far better for financially.

Making gambling as entertainment will not be difficult as long as you know how much money you use to gamble. But if you lose control of yourself, then gambling will not be as entertaining to you because that will make you think to recover the money you are losing. Searching for another job will provide you monthly income, so you don't have to bother if you lose in gambling. But that will be difficult if the money from your job is used for gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: carlisle1 on October 04, 2019, 12:34:06 AM
It's funny that many people think that gambling money is dirty but everyone is happy to receive money without asking where it came from. Lottery prizes are basically gambling money that everyone is happy to accept. Selecting a set of numbers and buying a ticket in the hope of winning, is the equivalent of wagering on the Roulette wheel.

People think so primarily because in order for one person to win at roulette, another person has to lose their money. Also, a lot of people suffering from ludomania, and lose the last money in the casino and the administration can not prevent them.
Also, casinos used to be controlled by criminal gangs who laundered their criminal money there. Probably the concept of "dirty money" went from that time.
The essences of gambling itself perhaps the dirty because how we treated the gaming is why made this bad,for me gambling supposedly for fun but most of players make this a vices ,place where they can be supreme and unbeatable while the truth is the House is benefiting from this attitude
Gambling money become dirty if we intend this to be,but if we don’t!i believe money from gambling will not be treated dirty as it was
But just enjoy playing and never do bad things in return


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: rizkyrz on October 04, 2019, 02:30:31 AM
make gambling as entertainment do not make the main source of income. like you said gambling has the same win / lose chance. looking for a main job that provides daily / monthly income then investing it is far better for financially.

Making gambling as entertainment will not be difficult as long as you know how much money you use to gamble. But if you lose control of yourself, then gambling will not be as entertaining to you because that will make you think to recover the money you are losing. Searching for another job will provide you monthly income, so you don't have to bother if you lose in gambling. But that will be difficult if the money from your job is used for gambling.
It is difficult to control yourself so that you are not trapped to use all the money available to gamble, but I think people who are used to gambling will find it easy to exercise self-control.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: yoseph on October 04, 2019, 03:45:29 AM
It's funny that many people think that gambling money is dirty but everyone is happy to receive money without asking where it came from. Lottery prizes are basically gambling money that everyone is happy to accept. Selecting a set of numbers and buying a ticket in the hope of winning, is the equivalent of wagering on the Roulette wheel.

People think so primarily because in order for one person to win at roulette, another person has to lose their money. Also, a lot of people suffering from ludomania, and lose the last money in the casino and the administration can not prevent them.
Also, casinos used to be controlled by criminal gangs who laundered their criminal money there. Probably the concept of "dirty money" went from that time.
The essences of gambling itself perhaps the dirty because how we treated the gaming is why made this bad,for me gambling supposedly for fun but most of players make this a vices ,place where they can be supreme and unbeatable while the truth is the House is benefiting from this attitude
Gambling money become dirty if we intend this to be,but if we don’t!i believe money from gambling will not be treated dirty as it was
But just enjoy playing and never do bad things in return
The only reason why people seem to perceive that gambling money is dirty money is because they think that it's money that's easily won and money easily won is regarded as dirty but that's not true at all when it comes to gambling, most gamblers tend to win once in a while after spending a lot of their money in the process .


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: pieppiep on October 04, 2019, 04:19:15 AM
The only reason why people seem to perceive that gambling money is dirty money is because they think that it's money that's easily won and money easily won is regarded as dirty but that's not true at all when it comes to gambling, most gamblers tend to win once in a while after spending a lot of their money in the process .

That is because gambling is not like the other jobs that they did every day. They think that gambling will risk their money, and they only hope with the luck which they know that luck will not always come to them. They know that, but they decide to continue and pretending that the luck will come in the next round. Although they already spend so much money, they still difficult to win some money because luck does not come at all.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: rizkyrz on October 04, 2019, 06:17:59 AM
The only reason why people seem to perceive that gambling money is dirty money is because they think that it's money that's easily won and money easily won is regarded as dirty but that's not true at all when it comes to gambling, most gamblers tend to win once in a while after spending a lot of their money in the process .

That is because gambling is not like the other jobs that they did every day. They think that gambling will risk their money, and they only hope with the luck which they know that luck will not always come to them. They know that, but they decide to continue and pretending that the luck will come in the next round. Although they already spend so much money, they still difficult to win some money because luck does not come at all.
it is very often the case and done by many people. dissatisfaction, hoping for luck, not understanding the risk of making gambling no gain at all and only detrimental to the individual who forces it.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Ucy on October 04, 2019, 07:21:48 AM
It's funny that many people think that gambling money is dirty but everyone is happy to receive money without asking where it came from. Lottery prizes are basically gambling money that everyone is happy to accept. Selecting a set of numbers and buying a ticket in the hope of winning, is the equivalent of wagering on the Roulette wheel.

People think so primarily because in order for one person to win at roulette, another person has to lose their money. Also, a lot of people suffering from ludomania, and lose the last money in the casino and the administration can not prevent them.
Also, casinos used to be controlled by criminal gangs who laundered their criminal money there. Probably the concept of "dirty money" went from that time.

Not all casino though,otherwise they wouldn't be allowed in many countries. I guess it was a stereotypical labeling by people with little/no facts.

As regards administrators not able to help them, I guess admins are not able to help the addicts due to fear of losing the costumers. Both need help in this case lol.
Nice word by the way: "ludomania".
 





Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: FontSeli on October 04, 2019, 11:50:20 AM
People think so primarily because in order for one person to win at roulette, another person has to lose their money. Also, a lot of people suffering from ludomania, and lose the last money in the casino and the administration can not prevent them.
Also, casinos used to be controlled by criminal gangs who laundered their criminal money there. Probably the concept of "dirty money" went from that time.
When we talk about the dirty money, here we discussed about the laundered money out of criminal activities. When we take into calculation on this, it'll be very less compared to the corruption money which is truly the dirty money. Because it is people's money getting accumulated with a single person. So, if we think about dirty money and play, it is quite hard to spend on gambling, because every money in one way or other has little dirt.

Like I said before. All the money in this world can be considered dirty in one way or another, because it is redistributed from one person to another and not always fairly.



The essences of gambling itself perhaps the dirty because how we treated the gaming is why made this bad,for me gambling supposedly for fun but most of players make this a vices ,place where they can be supreme and unbeatable while the truth is the House is benefiting from this attitude
Gambling money become dirty if we intend this to be,but if we don’t!i believe money from gambling will not be treated dirty as it was
But just enjoy playing and never do bad things in return

For me, gambling itself has never been dirty. And you know why? Because I always knew that in a casino the chances of my winning are less than the chances of the casino taking my money, and this information is not hidden from anyone and everyone can make a choice to play or not.



~
Nice word by the way: "ludomania".

This word means a person's disease and expresses a psychological addiction to gambling.
This can be compared to alcoholism, which expresses dependence on alcohol consumption.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Pinkris128 on October 04, 2019, 02:04:56 PM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/



It will all depends on the culture of the people. For example, in some rural areas here in our country, gambling is as a common as your day job and no one will raise an eyebrow if you feed your family with those money. But in urban areas, casinos have a bad reputation and we even have a law where no public official shall partake in any games of any gambling institutions. And for me, money is still money. I don't care if people think that my money is "dirty" just because I won it from gambling. It is not their place to judge where I get what I spend just to live.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Colt81 on October 04, 2019, 02:07:37 PM
I think you cannot consider gambling money as a dirty money because it is not like other illegal activities such as money laundering. As long you are playing gambling for entertainment and for your leisure time you cannot say that gambling money is a dirty money because you are earning it by playing and not stealing it which it is not illegal just like money laundering.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: STT on October 04, 2019, 02:31:27 PM
Like I said before. All the money in this world can be considered dirty in one way or another, because it is redistributed from one person to another and not always fairly.


There is no perfect system of fairness in the world, not democracy, not capitalism not even sports.   Sometimes people will suffer bad luck but the opportunity to take part is the gift everyone should be grateful for in life.    I see nothing wrong with plain gambling as a game where you can win and often will not, anyone reasonable should accept that possibility for pretty much every task in life every day.
   When people think they will take a game and win big because they bet big and the world owes them then they are going to corrected in a likely unpleasant way.    Thats just life as an adult, its better to understand then believe its the fault of the game or whatever task you took on.    

Money is circulated constantly in an economy and thats a positive because for every loser in a trade, there is a winner and even the profits come round to favor those who do the best business.  Gambling could be looked down on as not favoring good practice, risk for the sake of risk but its nothing more negative then drinking or smoking or wasting time on many different games which dont really promote any great advantage like science or normal industry might produce.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: imstillthebest on October 04, 2019, 02:41:07 PM
Like I said before. All the money in this world can be considered dirty in one way or another, because it is redistributed from one person to another and not always fairly.

only if the money or crypto has already been circulated on the market but what if you will get them from thier root sources . for money or physical fiat ,thier root source are from the banks because they are the ones that print it  . on cryptos thier root source are from mining  .  you can make sure that you are the first holder of those funds so they are not considered dirty at all but using these funds to gamble is still not considered dirty as long as the gambling game or gambling site is 102% legal  .


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: AliMan on October 04, 2019, 03:03:00 PM
The only reason why people seem to perceive that gambling money is dirty money is because they think that it's money that's easily won and money easily won is regarded as dirty but that's not true at all when it comes to gambling, most gamblers tend to win once in a while after spending a lot of their money in the process .

That is because gambling is not like the other jobs that they did every day. They think that gambling will risk their money, and they only hope with the luck which they know that luck will not always come to them. They know that, but they decide to continue and pretending that the luck will come in the next round. Although they already spend so much money, they still difficult to win some money because luck does not come at all.

Gambling was a form of recreational activity that involves money actually, but if you're pertaining to a dirty side of money then it's true. Money is the dirty one and not gambling itself, it circulated worldwide and used of any types of person whether he's bad or good person. If those gamblers were using dirty money as instrument for betting on gambling, credits was not of gambling but for those people who did it unacceptably.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Inkdatar on October 04, 2019, 03:05:08 PM
I think you cannot consider gambling money as a dirty money because it is not like other illegal activities such as money laundering. As long you are playing gambling for entertainment and for your leisure time you cannot say that gambling money is a dirty money because you are earning it by playing and not stealing it which it is not illegal just like money laundering.
It is true you gamble for entertainment purposes and if doing against the law by obtaining crimes or doing illegal then gambling money is a dirty money. We must treat gambling as a past time and enjoy it because we are the one responsible for our own doing.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: DarkDays on October 04, 2019, 04:10:34 PM
I am not much of a religious man so I can't speak of what the view is from religious point of view but legally I think it is called dirty because it is near impossible to keep a track of gains and losses so it is a common misassumption that all gamblers have dirty money, as in money which they gained in some ways where they didn't have to pay any tax.

And that's why I hate taxes folks. Then again, there are plenty of countries that do not tax gambling winnings, so at least in these countries, it is not seen as dirty money.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: FontSeli on October 04, 2019, 05:09:39 PM
Like I said before. All the money in this world can be considered dirty in one way or another, because it is redistributed from one person to another and not always fairly.


There is no perfect system of fairness in the world, not democracy, not capitalism not even sports.   Sometimes people will suffer bad luck but the opportunity to take part is the gift everyone should be grateful for in life.    I see nothing wrong with plain gambling as a game where you can win and often will not, anyone reasonable should accept that possibility for pretty much every task in life every day.
   When people think they will take a game and win big because they bet big and the world owes them then they are going to corrected in a likely unpleasant way.    Thats just life as an adult, its better to understand then believe its the fault of the game or whatever task you took on.    

Money is circulated constantly in an economy and thats a positive because for every loser in a trade, there is a winner and even the profits come round to favor those who do the best business.  Gambling could be looked down on as not favoring good practice, risk for the sake of risk but its nothing more negative then drinking or smoking or wasting time on many different games which dont really promote any great advantage like science or normal industry might produce.

I also believe that people are free to do as they please, everyone has the right to decide whether to play in the casino or not. However, sometimes it is necessary to limit the location of casinos to special gambling zones, as in the United States. This helps to protect the population from the painful excitement, because not all people understand that the casino is entertainment, and not a way to constantly earn money.



Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: dobolspeed3 on October 04, 2019, 06:36:32 PM
Why are we always debating this topic. In general, everyone has the right to their opinions on the money they get from gambling or promoting gambling sites. If it's personally wrong and it's dirty money, then leave it and stay away from gambling and find a better way. So here, every opinion is kept and we are good and have the right to do it, then do it.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Ryker1 on October 04, 2019, 06:47:36 PM
Why are we always debating this topic. In general, everyone has the right to their opinions on the money they get from gambling or promoting gambling sites. If it's personally wrong and it's dirty money, then leave it and stay away from gambling and find a better way. So here, every opinion is kept and we are good and have the right to do it, then do it.
Well, yes that is your own opinion and I will not debate you on that matter. The fact gives me some reason why did you say that gambling is dirty money and that is wrong. Are you committing crimes on gambling? Is gambling prohibited in your place or even in your religion? Then, if yes. No doubt that is dirty money but if none of the above. I did not see that a profit from gambling is dirty money. The fact that all of these are superstitious beliefs.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: maydna on October 05, 2019, 12:13:22 AM
It is difficult to control yourself so that you are not trapped to use all the money available to gamble, but I think people who are used to gambling will find it easy to exercise self-control.

It's not so easy to gamble especially if you cannot control yourself. The chance to lose money will bigger than he can imagine.

Some gamblers seek only for entertainment alone itself, they have plenty of money which losing is not even bothering them, they are just passing the time by. They are too bored having too much money on their pocket, they don't know where to spend it anymore. They don't want to donate it on charities because they are all selfish people who just wants money to keep coming on their hands.

Yes, some gamblers doing that, but not all gamblers. I know that some gamblers were generous to share some of the win money to other people, especially for people who really need money. But of course, those gamblers don't tell that people from where the money. That gambler doesn't want that person to reject the money because the money is from gambling. I think that is fine because it depends on the intention of each person.

Maybe that is why some people don't want to accept the money if they know that it is from gambling, and we cannot do anything because that will be up to them. It's better to give that money to people who really need that money.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: rizkyrz on October 05, 2019, 06:02:38 AM
Why are we always debating this topic. In general, everyone has the right to their opinions on the money they get from gambling or promoting gambling sites. If it's personally wrong and it's dirty money, then leave it and stay away from gambling and find a better way. So here, every opinion is kept and we are good and have the right to do it, then do it.
everyone is free to argue and this topic is a form of freedom, not to argue but only to discuss and it is good to share each person's perspective on a topic of conversation. if you don't like this topic either, that's fine.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: PeRo on October 05, 2019, 07:06:40 PM
I don't think that way. If I made money, no one should look at where do I spend it or on what I use it for. Why would it even be such a bad thing? It isn't that much of a big deal, you give money and then maybe you win more or lose it all. A big percentage of money given for building churches and other religious establishments comes from mafia or some types of criminals, so gambling isn't that bad.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: peter0425 on October 05, 2019, 07:31:38 PM
I don't think that way. If I made money, no one should look at where do I spend it or on what I use it for.
It’s not about where to spend but how you earn the money and from what?
Quote
Why would it even be such a bad thing? It isn't that much of a big deal, you give money and then maybe you win more or lose it all.
It will be a bad thing if you get the money from illegal gambling or from illegal capital
Quote
A big percentage of money given for building churches and other religious establishments comes from mafia or some types of criminals, so gambling isn't that bad.
This is another story though I This is really happening,Churches accept donation from Gaming corporation but they are opposing Gambling.”Weird “


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: rizkyrz on October 06, 2019, 04:34:09 AM
I don't think that way. If I made money, no one should look at where do I spend it or on what I use it for. Why would it even be such a bad thing? It isn't that much of a big deal, you give money and then maybe you win more or lose it all. A big percentage of money given for building churches and other religious establishments comes from mafia or some types of criminals, so gambling isn't that bad.
no one requires you to tell where you get your money and where the money is used for, it's a privacy right. Winning, losing, or at least the results you get from gambling are also none of the business of others. You must know that not everyone has the same perspective, some say gambling is bad and categorized as "dirty money" and some say the opposite. how do you show valid data that the mafia provides funds with a large percentage in terms of religious institutions? your opinion is too bad.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: finzyoj on October 06, 2019, 05:21:28 AM
I don't think that way. If I made money, no one should look at where do I spend it or on what I use it for. Why would it even be such a bad thing? It isn't that much of a big deal, you give money and then maybe you win more or lose it all. A big percentage of money given for building churches and other religious establishments comes from mafia or some types of criminals, so gambling isn't that bad.
I don't think bad people will spend money for doing things which don't benefit them in return. I've never heard of criminals doing charitable works instead of buying guns, drugs and illegal stuff.

Anyway, I love your maturity because you said that you don't even care on what other people will say about your gambling activity. You're right! You don't need to explain yourself to them, the important thing you are happy on what you are doing and you are degrading no one :).


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Ucy on October 06, 2019, 06:07:33 AM
Why are we always debating this topic. In general, everyone has the right to their opinions on the money they get from gambling or promoting gambling sites. If it's personally wrong and it's dirty money, then leave it and stay away from gambling and find a better way. So here, every opinion is kept and we are good and have the right to do it, then do it.
Well, yes that is your own opinion and I will not debate you on that matter. The fact gives me some reason why did you say that gambling is dirty money and that is wrong. Are you committing crimes on gambling? Is gambling prohibited in your place or even in your religion? Then, if yes. No doubt that is dirty money but if none of the above. I did not see that a profit from gambling is dirty money. The fact that all of these are superstitious beliefs.

If gambling is properly defined with real examples, I bet the countries that are against it will be blown away by their own hypocrisy and blindness. Every human or government gamble on regular basis... only those who are humble enough will know this as a fact. If this is not the case, countries wouldn't spend billions on sci/tech research and experiments. Scientists or researchers don't usually tell us they fail majority of the time before succeeding or do not succeed at all. We only see the little successes but don't hear about the many failures, disappointments, and billions spent on them


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: rizkyrz on October 06, 2019, 07:17:18 AM
I don't think that way. If I made money, no one should look at where do I spend it or on what I use it for. Why would it even be such a bad thing? It isn't that much of a big deal, you give money and then maybe you win more or lose it all. A big percentage of money given for building churches and other religious establishments comes from mafia or some types of criminals, so gambling isn't that bad.
I don't think bad people will spend money for doing things which don't benefit them in return. I've never heard of criminals doing charitable works instead of buying guns, drugs and illegal stuff.

Anyway, I love your maturity because you said that you don't even care on what other people will say about your gambling activity. You're right! You don't need to explain yourself to them, the important thing you are happy on what you are doing and you are degrading no one :).
exactly, bad people only care about their own world and even tend not to care about their surroundings. how could he use their money to do things that were very contradictory to what they were doing?

in some ways I also don't care about someone's gambling activities if he doesn't bother people around him. but if people do only gamble online, this will not have a bad impact for the surrounding.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: tungaqhd on October 06, 2019, 10:41:25 AM
I don't think that way. If I made money, no one should look at where do I spend it or on what I use it for. Why would it even be such a bad thing? It isn't that much of a big deal, you give money and then maybe you win more or lose it all. A big percentage of money given for building churches and other religious establishments comes from mafia or some types of criminals, so gambling isn't that bad.
no one requires you to tell where you get your money and where the money is used for, it's a privacy right. Winning, losing, or at least the results you get from gambling are also none of the business of others. You must know that not everyone has the same perspective, some say gambling is bad and categorized as "dirty money" and some say the opposite. how do you show valid data that the mafia provides funds with a large percentage in terms of religious institutions? your opinion is too bad.
Indeed, when we use our money to conduct a certain trading activity, no one offers or asks about the source of this money because this is not what services and stores care about, they only care if we have enough money to pay or not, except for these issues, other information is private. And saying that gambling money is dirty money is probably just the mindset of some stubborn people and the lack of generosity in thinking, money anywhere or any source is still money and is still valuable to use, we are not government, we do not need to judge


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: inanilujimi on October 06, 2019, 01:25:18 PM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/




Your secretary's actions are correct because it is impossible to use dirty money for education, such as wanting to wash clean but by using dirty water the results will not be there.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: rizkyrz on October 06, 2019, 01:43:01 PM
I don't think that way. If I made money, no one should look at where do I spend it or on what I use it for. Why would it even be such a bad thing? It isn't that much of a big deal, you give money and then maybe you win more or lose it all. A big percentage of money given for building churches and other religious establishments comes from mafia or some types of criminals, so gambling isn't that bad.
no one requires you to tell where you get your money and where the money is used for, it's a privacy right. Winning, losing, or at least the results you get from gambling are also none of the business of others. You must know that not everyone has the same perspective, some say gambling is bad and categorized as "dirty money" and some say the opposite. how do you show valid data that the mafia provides funds with a large percentage in terms of religious institutions? your opinion is too bad.
Indeed, when we use our money to conduct a certain trading activity, no one offers or asks about the source of this money because this is not what services and stores care about, they only care if we have enough money to pay or not, except for these issues, other information is private. And saying that gambling money is dirty money is probably just the mindset of some stubborn people and the lack of generosity in thinking, money anywhere or any source is still money and is still valuable to use, we are not government, we do not need to judge
exactly, there is no point in the owner of a trading or gambling platform asking for the source of money used to do that. there is money, you can trade then get profit or not, it's simple. as I said before, however people say about gambling it is perspective. people have the right to say something and we also have the right to refute it or turn a deaf ear to people's arguments.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Best Dreams on October 06, 2019, 03:58:52 PM
Why are we always debating this topic. In general, everyone has the right to their opinions on the money they get from gambling or promoting gambling sites. If it's personally wrong and it's dirty money, then leave it and stay away from gambling and find a better way. So here, every opinion is kept and we are good and have the right to do it, then do it.
everyone is free to argue and this topic is a form of freedom, not to argue but only to discuss and it is good to share each person's perspective on a topic of conversation. if you don't like this topic either, that's fine.
Yeah this forum is for everyone people have permission to talk what they feel about it. Money earning from gambling is one of good money according it to me  When you gamble you will have  ti work hard. Money is good to earn just focus on your goal to become  a good gambler other wise let what people think what they want to think.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Moiyah on October 07, 2019, 02:30:49 AM
Old fashion belief or not we need to respect each other perception so our life will be far from trouble. Some gambling organization is legal to other states indeed they are supporting it too like in Las Vegas. And other gambling institutions are owned by the government. Some benefits of legal gambling institutions in one state are paying taxes to the government, supporting medical services like confinement, medication, dialysis and many more.

Some are not in favor of gambling but when the person put in a situation which needs financial assistance and nothing will comply on or help on whether the perception is opposed, I think they will grab it especially when that foundation is legal to that country, besides you are not the one who play the game they are. :)


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: DaddyMonsi on October 07, 2019, 03:34:35 AM
To those who are conservative, yes its dirty money because there are lives who are ruined because of gambling, there are families who are going to miss dinner or lunch because the money was spent gambling. However, let us also look where the money goes but I am talking about regulated gambling, gambling that are operated by the government like in the Philippines.

In the Philippines, 55% of the revenue goes to the prize pool, 15% goes to the operating expenses and 30% goes to charity funds. So lets say you bought $20 worth of Lottery Tickets, that mean $6 will go the charity fund, that $6 can help those who can't pay for their hospital bills because they don't have enough money.

That 30% can go a long way if used properly by the agency, I say properly because recently, the Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office was shut down because of alleged corruption. So for those who are thinking that its dirty, maybe we should think about those who will benefit as well, most specially those who cant afford to even buy a lottery ticket.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: skarais on October 08, 2019, 02:58:43 PM
When viewed from a religious point of view, gambling is indeed prohibited let alone the money generated from gambling. But it seems that everyone has the right to determine what is best for himself and is free to choose his life path.
In many countries, gambling is also prohibited and if this rule is violated it will be subject to appropriate sanctions. But that also does not reduce people's interest in gambling, because of this difference in perception that causes them to be free to act. If you ask those who gamble, why gamble, isn't gambling prohibited ? So I'm sure you will get different answers and goals.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: rizkyrz on October 08, 2019, 02:59:09 PM
Why are we always debating this topic. In general, everyone has the right to their opinions on the money they get from gambling or promoting gambling sites. If it's personally wrong and it's dirty money, then leave it and stay away from gambling and find a better way. So here, every opinion is kept and we are good and have the right to do it, then do it.
everyone is free to argue and this topic is a form of freedom, not to argue but only to discuss and it is good to share each person's perspective on a topic of conversation. if you don't like this topic either, that's fine.
Yeah this forum is for everyone people have permission to talk what they feel about it. Money earning from gambling is one of good money according it to me  When you gamble you will have  ti work hard. Money is good to earn just focus on your goal to become  a good gambler other wise let what people think what they want to think.
yes, focus on yourself in finding income whatever the way. there is a result of gambling or whatever it is the same thing as a privacy right. many people are offended about how everyone is looking for income, no matter the privacy of others is a good thing in this regard.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Tungsten-1 on October 08, 2019, 07:53:18 PM
Why are we always debating this topic. In general, everyone has the right to their opinions on the money they get from gambling or promoting gambling sites. If it's personally wrong and it's dirty money, then leave it and stay away from gambling and find a better way. So here, every opinion is kept and we are good and have the right to do it, then do it.
everyone is free to argue and this topic is a form of freedom, not to argue but only to discuss and it is good to share each person's perspective on a topic of conversation. if you don't like this topic either, that's fine.
Indeed, all of us are enjoy the freedom of speech here and discuss our matters in a friendly manner. The reason why such topics are repeated is simple because they are important and can highly effect life of those who deal in such things. It is good to be of help to someone who is committing a miserable mistake or intends to do so. Would not it be satisfying to save a life from getting destroyed.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: rizkyrz on October 09, 2019, 08:48:51 AM
Why are we always debating this topic. In general, everyone has the right to their opinions on the money they get from gambling or promoting gambling sites. If it's personally wrong and it's dirty money, then leave it and stay away from gambling and find a better way. So here, every opinion is kept and we are good and have the right to do it, then do it.
everyone is free to argue and this topic is a form of freedom, not to argue but only to discuss and it is good to share each person's perspective on a topic of conversation. if you don't like this topic either, that's fine.
Indeed, all of us are enjoy the freedom of speech here and discuss our matters in a friendly manner. The reason why such topics are repeated is simple because they are important and can highly effect life of those who deal in such things. It is good to be of help to someone who is committing a miserable mistake or intends to do so. Would not it be satisfying to save a life from getting destroyed.
as long as we don't talk racist and hate speech, I think it's fun to discuss. we learn new things, know very different perspectives from us. unwittingly our insights as discussion participants will broaden. This forum also has many members from different countries, I learned a lot from it.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Zanzibet on October 09, 2019, 12:07:53 PM
Gambling is about freedom of choice & people should take responsibility for their own actions. Gambling is little different to smoking, alcoholism or drugs. No one holds a gun at anyone's head & forces them into it.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Best Dreams on October 09, 2019, 09:09:25 PM
Why are we always debating this topic. In general, everyone has the right to their opinions on the money they get from gambling or promoting gambling sites. If it's personally wrong and it's dirty money, then leave it and stay away from gambling and find a better way. So here, every opinion is kept and we are good and have the right to do it, then do it.
everyone is free to argue and this topic is a form of freedom, not to argue but only to discuss and it is good to share each person's perspective on a topic of conversation. if you don't like this topic either, that's fine.
Yeah this forum is for everyone people have permission to talk what they feel about it. Money earning from gambling is one of good money according it to me  When you gamble you will have  ti work hard. Money is good to earn just focus on your goal to become  a good gambler other wise let what people think what they want to think.
yes, focus on yourself in finding income whatever the way. there is a result of gambling or whatever it is the same thing as a privacy right. many people are offended about how everyone is looking for income, no matter the privacy of others is a good thing in this regard.
Yes, some people talk like this because they get jealous so Better no need to listen to them they will keep talking this way focus on your own way towards profit and keep gambling. Everyone has own idea some would like and some would not like. I think I will keep gambling other people's thinking does not affect my determination ever.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: PeRo on October 20, 2019, 05:23:31 PM
I don't think that way. If I made money, no one should look at where do I spend it or on what I use it for. Why would it even be such a bad thing? It isn't that much of a big deal, you give money and then maybe you win more or lose it all. A big percentage of money given for building churches and other religious establishments comes from mafia or some types of criminals, so gambling isn't that bad.
no one requires you to tell where you get your money and where the money is used for, it's a privacy right. Winning, losing, or at least the results you get from gambling are also none of the business of others. You must know that not everyone has the same perspective, some say gambling is bad and categorized as "dirty money" and some say the opposite. how do you show valid data that the mafia provides funds with a large percentage in terms of religious institutions? your opinion is too bad.
It's pretty much what you could call a public secret, everyone knows it is like that, but no one takes action or talks about it. It's not my opinion, it's reality.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: finaleshot2016 on October 20, 2019, 06:23:46 PM
It depends on our culture if it's dirty money or not. It's how you see gambling on your eyes, your perspective, your view on this. If you see it as for entertainment then we have no problem with that, it's not bad for you. There are types of gambling that make it really a bad thing, and the people are getting addicted to it so they're thinking it's bad.

I don't think that way. If I made money, no one should look at where do I spend it or on what I use it for. Why would it even be such a bad thing? It isn't that much of a big deal, you give money and then maybe you win more or lose it all. A big percentage of money given for building churches and other religious establishments comes from mafia or some types of criminals, so gambling isn't that bad.
no one requires you to tell where you get your money and where the money is used for, it's a privacy right. Winning, losing, or at least the results you get from gambling are also none of the business of others. You must know that not everyone has the same perspective, some say gambling is bad and categorized as "dirty money" and some say the opposite. how do you show valid data that the mafia provides funds with a large percentage in terms of religious institutions? your opinion is too bad.
It's pretty much what you could call a public secret, everyone knows it is like that, but no one takes action or talks about it. It's not my opinion, it's reality.

It depends on our culture if it's dirty money or not, people don't have the rights to ask or question you regarding gambling because first of all there's no wrong with that. It's their mindset and negative thoughts on gambling that brought them being like that.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: TheCoinGrabber on October 21, 2019, 03:09:31 PM
How is it dirty? Did the casino put a gun on people's heads and asked them for money, you know, like governments do?  ;D

The money was given up willingly, the government takes the money it earned directly from sweepstakes or the income tax from casinos. The government then rolls that in with the rest of the budget. What's dirty about that?


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: BChydro on October 21, 2019, 03:26:23 PM
Gambling is about freedom of choice & people should take responsibility for their own actions. Gambling is little different to smoking, alcoholism or drugs. No one holds a gun at anyone's head & forces them into it.
If you take this analogy then no one is holding a gun for addicts, they are doing that on their own, there are gambling addicts and no one can hide from it, there are people who gets addicted to the things they do and if they are addicted then the people around them should them the person get the necessary treatment as addiction is one and it can destroy your life.

When viewed from a religious point of view, gambling is indeed prohibited let alone the money generated from gambling.
Not a religious person so not sure what you are talking about, is it prohibited by religion and if so which one and if so are you living by the rules all your life. If there are restrictions in life then you could not do literally anything in life as there could be some sort of restrictions one way or the other.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: gabbie2010 on October 21, 2019, 04:12:13 PM
Its better to gamble than to steal, exhort money fraud from people religiously gambling might be forbidden however its very glaring nowadays that some individuals steal government money and make donations with it to religious bodies without questions their sources  if such a body should out-rightly reject gambling money why can't they reject stolen funds given to them in form of donations? personally I see no crime in gambling in fact in some third world countries where there is high rate of unemployment the youths resorted to gambling as away of surviving their hash economy.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: White Christmas on October 21, 2019, 04:19:20 PM
I don't think so that the money cames from gambling is a dirty money, why? Simply because you play hard in order to get those money this gambling is what you called an modernization in which many people take it as an industrial thing in which you can earn money. Always remember that money is money! All of the money is dirty why? First of all money is controlled by the world government and the government is dirty and politics is dirty.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: crzy on October 21, 2019, 11:38:34 PM
I don't think so that the money cames from gambling is a dirty money, why? Simply because you play hard in order to get those money this gambling is what you called an modernization in which many people take it as an industrial thing in which you can earn money. Always remember that money is money! All of the money is dirty why? First of all money is controlled by the world government and the government is dirty and politics is dirty.
I am more agree that politics is dirty compare to money that comes from gambling, we should not think like this. We have to understand that we all have different views about gambling and its not about a dirty money, its about how you play and how you earn that money. If you do it on a bad way then its bad to some people, but if there's a hard work then it must be a fruit of your work and not a dirty money.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: michellee on October 22, 2019, 05:13:13 AM
I don't think so that the money cames from gambling is a dirty money, why? Simply because you play hard in order to get those money this gambling is what you called an modernization in which many people take it as an industrial thing in which you can earn money. Always remember that money is money! All of the money is dirty why? First of all money is controlled by the world government and the government is dirty and politics is dirty.
Its mostly related to beliefs and most religion is teaching that gambling is bad/evil thus making all related to gambling is evil even if the money is clean and came from a good business.
The power of religion is high, some people obey it without thinking.

Yes, that is because people will think that gambling is a bad habit, and they advise other people to stay away from gambling. But as entertainment, gambling can be another activity to having fun, and we don't have to think about earning money from gambling. We have to think about ourselves about playing gambling or not, and if we think that gambling is not good for us, we need to stay away too.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: djsugar on October 22, 2019, 05:30:01 AM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/



I feel gambling is not limited to poker places now and there are now various sources and ways to gamble and try your luck. Though still my family, especially my mother wont appreciate the fact that her son gambles a little as side hustle but still i do it at times. You may call it the adrenaline rush from the risk and excitement related to gambling, but i wont mind running my home or at least fulfill my desires or family's with gambling money. Things are changing !


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: FlamingFingers on October 22, 2019, 05:49:49 AM

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college,


Your mother did not want you to get addicted to gambling while in college,  that is the reason why,  perhaps she did a great job by advising you to face your studies , because you might be carried away by the money being made from gambling while in college


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Sahyadri on October 22, 2019, 06:25:57 AM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/



I guess one's attitude depends more on the society he belongs and values taught by parents. For me, my religion plays a very less role to define my interests and desires. I have been gambling for past 4 years now and running my expenses through gambling wins. One of my uncle fulfills his desires from money from gambling which wont have been possible looking at his current earnings except from gambling. I personally think gambling money is not a stable source of earning and is not dirty at all . You can donate some of it if you feel its dirty and feel better about yourself !


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: onrise on October 22, 2019, 06:35:53 AM

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college,


Your mother did not want you to get addicted to gambling while in college,  that is the reason why,  perhaps she did a great job by advising you to face your studies , because you might be carried away by the money being made from gambling while in college

One of the reasons also why government itself restrict the age limit so that under 18 people who do not have much maturity at times stay away from gambling and that is the purpose of having age restriction. Also I think if in religious it is fine and government does allow to play legally it is fine to play and win amount as well.



Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: AdoboCandies on October 22, 2019, 06:49:48 AM
I disagree, gambling money is not dirty money, It's about the perspective of the person who gambles and the perspective of your culture and country to gambling. In my perspective gambling is a hobby to enjoy yourself because there's a feeling of euphoria when you win it feels good it's not only about money it's about the enjoyment it gives to you. It's not dirty money because there is a gambling industry and most of the GDP of the country comes from casinos and derbies. I think it becomes dirty money when you gamble on illegal gambling like dog fights but just like I said it depends on the perspective.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: samputin on October 22, 2019, 06:56:14 AM
It's their mindset and negative thoughts on gambling that brought them being like that.
Yes, exactly. How gambling may be seen depends on one's perspective or mindset. The things instilled to them when they were young may also affect them on how they see gambling when they grow up.

I remember, when I was little, my parents always remind me not to get involved with any activities which relate to gambling because it's bad and not meant for children. Of course as a child, I obeyed them. But as I grew older, I realized that gambling can also be fun. But, I took the term "gambling is bad" according to my parents in a sense that it can corrupt someones mind and might cause addiction.

With proper control, and as long as you gamble with your own money and not hurting people in anyway, the money you earned thru gambling is just fine.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Peashooter on October 22, 2019, 01:53:38 PM
All of the money that is fruit of your hardwork is a money and I believe that all of the money that produces by your effort is a good money, and that money we can use it to buy goods and products. For me money is money we can use it whenever we want. They make money for us to use it to buy goods it doesn't necessary if it is from a good or bad hands.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: sujonali1819 on October 22, 2019, 03:06:59 PM
I somewhat agree that gambling is dirty money because it doesn't look good on society, nation, country. Even in different religions, it is forbidden. mainly in Islam. But it's also true that Nobody force someone to involve in the gamble. So If a person involves in gambles, then it does not make sense to blame other people.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: bharal07 on October 22, 2019, 08:26:32 PM
I somewhat agree that gambling is dirty money because it doesn't look good on society, nation, country. Even in different religions, it is forbidden. mainly in Islam. But it's also true that Nobody force someone to involve in the gamble. So If a person involves in gambles, then it does not make sense to blame other people.
So anything comes from forbidden things is dirty? Then most of income sources are dirty because people making it from cheating government from paying taxes or earned it in wrong way.

Don't decide the money is dirty based on the forbidden things just decide did you earned in dirty way or in good...

But one thing only paper will nit be trashed even if it goes dirty is money.

Yes, that's right! because not all the money from gambling is dirty am I right? and not all gambling sessions are dirty. Because we all gamble to earn money then, when do you earn money through gambling? and you can tell it again the gambling money is dirty? of course no one can say that again! Because he only raised his money through gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Wintersoldier on October 23, 2019, 02:02:34 AM
It still depends, for my perception about gambling become dirty is when, illegal activities are present specifically from the source of funds that they provide in order to bet and participate on games. But when it comes to just gambling and playing, this is just a good source of entertainment and money as well. We shouldn't think of gambling negatively, because some gambling platforms donates on charities as well as big time betters who won much in playing.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: lienfaye on October 23, 2019, 02:56:30 AM
I somewhat agree that gambling is dirty money because it doesn't look good on society, nation, country. Even in different religions, it is forbidden. mainly in Islam. But it's also true that Nobody force someone to involve in the gamble. So If a person involves in gambles, then it does not make sense to blame other people.
Well gambling has a pros and cons and maybe thats the reason why for some religion gambling is forbidden. However it doesnt mean the money we accumulate in gambling is dirty because it didnt came from illegal activities. Its just that it has a bad effect for gambler who dont have control because it can led to addiction.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: MI6 on October 23, 2019, 04:35:20 AM
I somewhat agree that gambling is dirty money because it doesn't look good on society, nation, country. Even in different religions, it is forbidden. mainly in Islam. But it's also true that Nobody force someone to involve in the gamble. So If a person involves in gambles, then it does not make sense to blame other people.
Well gambling has a pros and cons and maybe thats the reason why for some religion gambling is forbidden. However it doesnt mean the money we accumulate in gambling is dirty because it didnt came from illegal activities. Its just that it has a bad effect for gambler who dont have control because it can led to addiction.
In religion that i know, everything what we do from a sin is dirty. And gambling for now considered as illegal activities in some countries. I think the "rules" is already happen since long time ago.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: julius caesar on October 23, 2019, 05:25:25 AM
I somewhat agree that gambling is dirty money because it doesn't look good on society, nation, country. Even in different religions, it is forbidden. mainly in Islam. But it's also true that Nobody force someone to involve in the gamble. So If a person involves in gambles, then it does not make sense to blame other people.
Well gambling has a pros and cons and maybe thats the reason why for some religion gambling is forbidden. However it doesnt mean the money we accumulate in gambling is dirty because it didnt came from illegal activities. Its just that it has a bad effect for gambler who dont have control because it can led to addiction.
Gambling is actually forbidden in some religion since it's a temptation for them that human mind found it difficult to control or deal with hence they look or consider it in a negative way. In reality, gambling isn't really a temptation but rather a way to entertain yourself with trying to test if your fortune can bring you profit.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: michellee on October 23, 2019, 05:29:45 AM
I somewhat agree that gambling is dirty money because it doesn't look good on society, nation, country. Even in different religions, it is forbidden. mainly in Islam. But it's also true that Nobody force someone to involve in the gamble. So If a person involves in gambles, then it does not make sense to blame other people.

There is no need to blame other people because he plays gambling. That will be every individual's responsibility for what he did, and we can only give suggestions to him that playing gambling is not good. I think in all religions, gambling is prohibited, especially in Islam, there was a strict rule that says gambling is forbidden and it's haram. All people will have a different point of view so we cannot say that they are wrong and we are right.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Indrawan77 on October 23, 2019, 02:55:53 PM
For old people they believe that its a dirty money so every one will stay out of gambling, but for modern people they don't think it as dirty money,some people play using calculations and strategy, so they do hard work of research to make profit, so I don't consider gambling money as dirty money, dirty money is money that come from doing criminal things and I don't see gambling as a criminal activity


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: btc78 on October 23, 2019, 03:23:35 PM
For old people they believe that its a dirty money so every one will stay out of gambling, but for modern people they don't think it as dirty money,some people play using calculations and strategy, so they do hard work of research to make profit, so I don't consider gambling money as dirty money, dirty money is money that come from doing criminal things and I don't see gambling as a criminal activity
It depends among the countries mate because even how young loves gambling but if this is prohibited by the government the still this is a dirty money since it’s against the law

It still depends, for my perception about gambling become dirty is when, illegal activities are present specifically from the source of funds that they provide in order to bet and participate on games. But when it comes to just gambling and playing, this is just a good source of entertainment and money as well. We shouldn't think of gambling negatively, because some gambling platforms donates on charities as well as big time betters who won much in playing.
Being illegal in a country it becomes dirty as well right?not unless there’s a specific place to make gambling in that said country then there will be exemptions


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: RivAngE on October 23, 2019, 06:59:38 PM
A question to ask is "Why would some people call it dirty money?"
I believe a reason (which by the way I personally also support) is that the money someone wins in gambling are someone else's money, possibly money they could not afford to lose but their addiction drove them to lose them anyway and now you hold them.

This is why I don't gamble.
There's a fine line though between gambling and investing, so think this through yourselves.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Visbay on October 23, 2019, 08:16:58 PM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/



I guess one's attitude depends more on the society he belongs and values taught by parents. For me, my religion plays a very less role to define my interests and desires. I have been gambling for past 4 years now and running my expenses through gambling wins. One of my uncle fulfills his desires from money from gambling which wont have been possible looking at his current earnings except from gambling. I personally think gambling money is not a stable source of earning and is not dirty at all . You can donate some of it if you feel its dirty and feel better about yourself !
For sure our parents are so possessive about us they want us to be safe and not to be addicted about gambling to suffer lose in our studies. So money is not bad but everything is good on its own time when you will be young enough to handle this addictions so the  parents will not stop you from gambling they will allow you.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: hahay on October 23, 2019, 09:51:25 PM
For old people they believe that its a dirty money so every one will stay out of gambling, but for modern people they don't think it as dirty money,some people play using calculations and strategy, so they do hard work of research to make profit, so I don't consider gambling money as dirty money, dirty money is money that come from doing criminal things and I don't see gambling as a criminal activity
In fact, many gamblers are old people and not all old people consider gambling to be dirty money, and similarly to modern people, not all of them gamble and there are some modern people who think gambling is dirty money. So in this matter at least the crime is a cause of gambling itself if indeed the gambler does not have control because of the pressure in defeat and bankruptcy, but the meaning of dirty money is money that comes from gambling itself and not the cause of gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: STT on October 23, 2019, 10:14:19 PM
Plenty of old people play poker and bet on horses, its not a new invention.    The dirty money is usually a reference to the operations that run the house not the gamblers themselves so far as I know.   The idea being some business is superior to others, farming is superior to alcohol distillation I guess even though they both involve ingredients and production.   Smoking or Tobacco production is often viewed as a dirty industry or negative in its consequences.   
   One industry people would recognize as modern day dirty money would be big oil companies, thats avoided as investment by some and considered to a higher risk, dirty industry.   Coal mining, once the life blood of many communities is considered a dirty industry which scars the countryside, depends how you view it but the people wouldn't be in those places even if coal hadnt been such big business.    Gambling by itself is fine, horse betting is fine and produces and supports a sport with great history to it.   I dont view things in this way but thats the origins of that reference, theres always good and bad examples in every sector of industry.   Thats a better point imo


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: batang_bitcoin on October 23, 2019, 10:52:21 PM
For old people they believe that its a dirty money so every one will stay out of gambling, but for modern people they don't think it as dirty money,some people play using calculations and strategy, so they do hard work of research to make profit, so I don't consider gambling money as dirty money, dirty money is money that come from doing criminal things and I don't see gambling as a criminal activity
It's true that the old folks that has not been open to gambling and will consider it as a dirty money. They don't know that this industry is bigger than they are thinking and that's why some countries prosper through it. And for the religions that treats it like that, let them believe it and we have to respect their beliefs and so the old folks. That's what they think and we just have to understand the situation on why they have that kind of belief with money from gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: gandame on October 24, 2019, 02:17:06 AM
Dirty money in gambling yes true every money you've get in gambling are called dirty money. Because some gambling are illegal.
Gambling is not good also to us because its cause addicted.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: ScamViruS on October 25, 2019, 12:57:02 PM
Dirty money in gambling yes true every money you've get in gambling are called dirty money. Because some gambling are illegal.
Gambling is not good also to us because its cause addicted.
I don't think gambling money is dirty Because no one is forcing you money in gambling. Everyone willingly gambles. And those who are addicted to gambling are different. Because they are so addicted to gambling that they sell their property.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: DoublerHunter on October 25, 2019, 01:26:44 PM
Dirty money in gambling yes true every money you've get in gambling are called dirty money. Because some gambling are illegal.
Gambling is not good also to us because its cause addicted.
I don't think gambling money is dirty Because no one is forcing you money in gambling. Everyone willingly gambles. And those who are addicted to gambling are different. Because they are so addicted to gambling that they sell their property.
^ Nah, that is not dirty because you are not committing a crime to anyone. Gambling is considered to those people who addicted as a source of income and I did not see any reason that it is to become dirty money. That is now a case to case basis if gambling is illegal in your place then, the profit you've made is dirty money but if all went legalized there's nothing wrong and that is not be called dirty money. We accept the fact that now gambling is a part of game that usually people gamble in just for fun.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Natalim on October 25, 2019, 02:05:06 PM
Dirty money in gambling yes true every money you've get in gambling are called dirty money. Because some gambling are illegal.
Gambling is not good also to us because its cause addicted.
I don't think gambling money is dirty Because no one is forcing you money in gambling. Everyone willingly gambles. And those who are addicted to gambling are different. Because they are so addicted to gambling that they sell their property.
^ Nah, that is not dirty because you are not committing a crime to anyone. Gambling is considered to those people who addicted as a source of income and I did not see any reason that it is to become dirty money. That is now a case to case basis if gambling is illegal in your place then, the profit you've made is dirty money but if all went legalized there's nothing wrong and that is not be called dirty money. We accept the fact that now gambling is a part of game that usually people gamble in just for fun.
Gambling as dirty money is just based on how people see it, for me I will never consider it as a dirty money because you need to be ultimately successful to make money in gambling. You call it dirty if you can acquired it illegally but if not ,it's the same money that you earn on a daily basis. Maybe if you are in a religion and that teaching goes that gambling money is a dirty money, there's nothing you can do but accept it, otherwise look for another religion that will understand you.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Slow death on October 25, 2019, 03:17:52 PM
For old people they believe that its a dirty money so every one will stay out of gambling, but for modern people they don't think it as dirty money,some people play using calculations and strategy, so they do hard work of research to make profit, so I don't consider gambling money as dirty money, dirty money is money that come from doing criminal things and I don't see gambling as a criminal activity

The problem with many people having the thought that gambling is related to crime is because of religion and is the bad influence of a small group of people called government. it is ironic because many churches drain money from poor people and many government people are corrupt people and it is those same people who say gambling is related to crime


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: uray on October 25, 2019, 05:05:54 PM
For old people they believe that its a dirty money so every one will stay out of gambling, but for modern people they don't think it as dirty money,some people play using calculations and strategy, so they do hard work of research to make profit
Why do you think that old people believe that gambling is dirty money, gambling is not a new phenomena and it has roots for centuries and you think that old people think that it is dirty is not the correct way to think, yes gambling has destroyed many lives in the past and may be that has created a misconception for some people but one fact is that what ever calculation you make there will be no certainty when it comes to gambling, the probability factor always shows that you loose and luck is a major factor.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Ryker1 on October 25, 2019, 05:19:08 PM
For old people they believe that its a dirty money so every one will stay out of gambling, but for modern people they don't think it as dirty money,some people play using calculations and strategy, so they do hard work of research to make profit
Why do you think that old people believe that gambling is dirty money, gambling is not a new phenomena and it has roots for centuries and you think that old people think that it is dirty is not the correct way to think, yes gambling has destroyed many lives in the past and may be that has created a misconception for some people but one fact is that what ever calculation you make there will be no certainty when it comes to gambling, the probability factor always shows that you loose and luck is a major factor.
Well, we can't argue this since that is their belief. Besides we respect them and their beliefs as well. Probably that was a religious belief that gambling is bad to people and if you have a profit on this it is dirty money. Each of us has a different understanding of gambling and also the generated profit. Indeed, all I can say is do what you have believed if you want to gamble but against your religion then, leave your religion and find those friendly in gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money.
Post by: btc78 on October 25, 2019, 11:43:31 PM
Personally, I don't see gambling money as dirty. I guess the world as evolved already from this old traditional point of view. Unless you are very religious here, I'm sure everyone doesn't consider it tainted or could be the cause of you committing sins. Gambling today is a business, online or offline so many have sway around that traditional belief already.
This is a stand of typical gamblers lol 😂 no wonder why you literally mentioned that as for Old traditional ways

Anyway for m gambling is dirty depending on which countries they live and what religion they involved ,and that’s the reason why people have different stand on this matter,but fo me?this is not dirty as long as you don’t steal or take money  from others just to have a capital


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Best Dreams on October 26, 2019, 10:24:06 AM
Dirty money in gambling yes true every money you've get in gambling are called dirty money. Because some gambling are illegal.
Gambling is not good also to us because its cause addicted.
I don't think gambling money is dirty Because no one is forcing you money in gambling. Everyone willingly gambles. And those who are addicted to gambling are different. Because they are so addicted to gambling that they sell their property.
For sure it is not bad because for me and forever one gambling is nothing but the only way to earn money. In gaming, I feel happy and satisfy because yet I did not hear anything like this from my friends and family they all love and even when they know all my income is because of gambling but still it does not matter to them.



Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: NavI_027 on October 26, 2019, 10:42:27 AM
For sure it is not bad because for me and forever one gambling is nothing but the only way to earn money. In gaming, I feel happy and satisfy because yet I did not hear anything like this from my friends and family they all love and even when they know all my income is because of gambling but still it does not matter to them.
There are some reasons why your family and friends are not against your gambling activity, it could be either because you are always winning and benefited from it sometimes or because you only gamble occasionally (your life isn't destroyed by it). But once you bankrupt, for sure everything will change. Well, congratulations to you because most of the gamblers got poor family relationship due to this addicting activity while you — your family remains tight and you can enjoy your risky way of earning ;D.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: wxxyrqa on October 26, 2019, 05:57:21 PM
In life, I obey a very good rule, when any thing to a certain extent brings benefits, and if there is a lot of it, then it will bring great harm.  It’s like food, for when you need to eat properly for quality life, and when you overeat, it’s to your detriment.  The same is with gambling.  When you play a little, you get pleasure, and when you abuse the excitement, you only bring harm to yourself and your loved ones.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Kittygalore on October 28, 2019, 02:42:03 PM
Well for me i dont see gambling dirty or money from gambling is dirty, but still we have different view and opinions maybe to others they treat gambling that way
 As long as the person who play gambling didnt do anything wrong to win or etc. I cant be considered money from it is dirty, some just having fun playing but also some take gambling as business.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Reatim on October 28, 2019, 03:06:52 PM
In life, I obey a very good rule, when any thing to a certain extent brings benefits, and if there is a lot of it, then it will bring great harm.  It’s like food, for when you need to eat properly for quality life, and when you overeat, it’s to your detriment.  The same is with gambling.  When you play a little, you get pleasure, and when you abuse the excitement, you only bring harm to yourself and your loved ones.
Nice points and comparison seems like you have lots of experience in this matter mate?

Having gambling in life is a privilege but abusing this will bring us misfortune,and why need to become addicted when we have so many things in life to spend our time?

Anyway gambling money wasn’t dirty at all but if you made bad just to play then if turns dirty from that


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Yatsan on October 28, 2019, 04:29:08 PM
Gambling money is not dirty money, simply because you work hard for it! Just think of trading, when you are going to win in trading there is someone that is going to lose, is it dirty money? no! Gambling is just like trading but there's no analysis just pure 100% luck. Gambling money is something that you win by risk, it's just gonna be dirty money if you win it dirty for example you cheat on the game, that is what you call dirty money, but as long you are playing fair it will never be considered as dirty money.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Webetcoins on October 29, 2019, 07:38:43 PM
In life, I obey a very good rule, when any thing to a certain extent brings benefits, and if there is a lot of it, then it will bring great harm.  It’s like food, for when you need to eat properly for quality life, and when you overeat, it’s to your detriment.  The same is with gambling.  When you play a little, you get pleasure, and when you abuse the excitement, you only bring harm to yourself and your loved ones.
Nice points and comparison seems like you have lots of experience in this matter mate?

Having gambling in life is a privilege but abusing this will bring us misfortune,and why need to become addicted when we have so many things in life to spend our time?

Anyway gambling money wasn’t dirty at all but if you made bad just to play then if turns dirty from that
We all are different and no addicts ever plans to become one when he indulges himself into some activity. It is just the repetition of same actions, brain and body experiencing same changes for long that they make it important for their survival and the persons is tagged as an addict. We humans cannot really control ourselves. I don't consider gambling a good activity and its money does not stay for long.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: ReiMomo on October 29, 2019, 08:37:40 PM
Gambling money is not dirty money, simply because you work hard for it! Just think of trading, when you are going to win in trading there is someone that is going to lose, is it dirty money? no! Gambling is just like trading but there's no analysis just pure 100% luck. Gambling money is something that you win by risk, it's just gonna be dirty money if you win it dirty for example you cheat on the game, that is what you call dirty money, but as long you are playing fair it will never be considered as dirty money.
That was the fact here and need to accept all against in gambling is not right that revenue from gambling is dirty money. Just because of their religion probably and also parents will, and they can leave if they want. You have earned money in a fair game, so there's nothing you call dirty money that comes from gambling. We all have a different way of perspective way regarding the money that you have to earn in gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: gabmen on October 30, 2019, 02:26:31 AM
In life, I obey a very good rule, when any thing to a certain extent brings benefits, and if there is a lot of it, then it will bring great harm.  It’s like food, for when you need to eat properly for quality life, and when you overeat, it’s to your detriment.  The same is with gambling.  When you play a little, you get pleasure, and when you abuse the excitement, you only bring harm to yourself and your loved ones.
Nice points and comparison seems like you have lots of experience in this matter mate?

Having gambling in life is a privilege but abusing this will bring us misfortune,and why need to become addicted when we have so many things in life to spend our time?

Anyway gambling money wasn’t dirty at all but if you made bad just to play then if turns dirty from that
We all are different and no addicts ever plans to become one when he indulges himself into some activity. It is just the repetition of same actions, brain and body experiencing same changes for long that they make it important for their survival and the persons is tagged as an addict. We humans cannot really control ourselves. I don't consider gambling a good activity and its money does not stay for long.

The only time I consider money as dirty money is if it came from something illegal. Like for example, money laundering or blatant stealing. Most gamblers use their own money with their bets, so I don't find anything wrong with that. The amount that they win or lose is something that only they are accountable for. Unless they're deep in addiction, of course. That's where the problem comes in and the person gets to do things they normally won't even think of doing.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: onrise on October 30, 2019, 05:25:30 AM
Gambling money is not dirty money, simply because you work hard for it! Just think of trading, when you are going to win in trading there is someone that is going to lose, is it dirty money? no! Gambling is just like trading but there's no analysis just pure 100% luck. Gambling money is something that you win by risk, it's just gonna be dirty money if you win it dirty for example you cheat on the game, that is what you call dirty money, but as long you are playing fair it will never be considered as dirty money.

I think country which has made it illegal and still of some one gambles or make money out of it or may be religion has banned it and you do it might consider as a dirty money else it is not a dirty money as you wood be paying taxes in your country on the money .


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: KrisAlex18 on October 30, 2019, 05:33:00 AM
Gambling money is not dirty money, simply because you work hard for it! Just think of trading, when you are going to win in trading there is someone that is going to lose, is it dirty money? no! Gambling is just like trading but there's no analysis just pure 100% luck. Gambling money is something that you win by risk, it's just gonna be dirty money if you win it dirty for example you cheat on the game, that is what you call dirty money, but as long you are playing fair it will never be considered as dirty money.

I think country which has made it illegal and still of some one gambles or make money out of it or may be religion has banned it and you do it might consider as a dirty money else it is not a dirty money as you wood be paying taxes in your country on the money .
I think you have a point i also consider gambling places as dirty money if it's illegal but im referring to the owner of the casino or what because the owner didnt pay taxes and illegally run the place, but for the that the player gets is not a dirty money as the other said they just also playing gambles is just investing it will be either lose or win i think it will be considered dirty money if the money they used to play came from a wrond method and use the money they win for personal intention.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: TelolettOm on October 30, 2019, 08:04:10 AM
For dirty money back to each other's thoughts. all depends on the beliefs we follow. but on average most religions forbid gambling. This prohibition is clear that gambling is not good for ourselves and also makes us poor. but even though it's clearly wrong people are no longer using it. some view gambling as just a game and winning is a bonus


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: spadormie on October 30, 2019, 03:55:22 PM
For dirty money back to each other's thoughts. all depends on the beliefs we follow. but on average most religions forbid gambling. This prohibition is clear that gambling is not good for ourselves and also makes us poor. but even though it's clearly wrong people are no longer using it. some view gambling as just a game and winning is a bonus
Most people tend not to follow what religions want them to do that's why these people became liberated. That makes sense because why is it many Christians are fond into gambling? Probably because it's embedded on their culture. For me, gambling is not dirty money as long as you're not using other people's money. If your gambling money came from stealing some of your parents jewelries, then you win it's dirty money. But, if it's from your sweat and your blood, it's not.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: huige007 on October 31, 2019, 02:28:13 AM
For dirty money back to each other's thoughts. all depends on the beliefs we follow. but on average most religions forbid gambling. This prohibition is clear that gambling is not good for ourselves and also makes us poor. but even though it's clearly wrong people are no longer using it. some view gambling as just a game and winning is a bonus
Most people tend not to follow what religions want them to do that's why these people became liberated. That makes sense because why is it many Christians are fond into gambling? Probably because it's embedded on their culture. For me, gambling is not dirty money as long as you're not using other people's money. If your gambling money came from stealing some of your parents jewelries, then you win it's dirty money. But, if it's from your sweat and your blood, it's not.
I firmly believe that no religion of the world would teach something that will hurt a person in any way, rather suggest the best for him in all matters of life. Anyone with brains and no religion will stay away from harmful things. Now gambling is prohibited by many religions and an atheist with intellect can also see the injuries that gamblers can have. Gambling money is easy to come and go, if not dirty.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: TelolettOm on October 31, 2019, 03:37:22 AM
For dirty money back to each other's thoughts. all depends on the beliefs we follow. but on average most religions forbid gambling. This prohibition is clear that gambling is not good for ourselves and also makes us poor. but even though it's clearly wrong people are no longer using it. some view gambling as just a game and winning is a bonus
Right mate. Good or bad gambling money depends on someone's thought and I agree with it. Not only religion prohibits, even parents never teach it because gambling is bad. In my view, there no problem with gambling also with the money, Just don't be too addicted and damage the finance, use it wisely and win lots of matches.
Lifestyle may be one of the factors why someone has an ambition to gamble. and in my opinion right now there are so many people who already understand that gambling cannot benefit if we are too greedy in playing. and also that greed will make them unsatisfied even if they win big enough money because it is human nature :)

I see that the lifestyle of a gambler is all luxurious and it makes me think it's one of the reasons why they keep playing. while on average to work alone they are also lazy. because you think that getting money is easy enough with gambling


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Questat on October 31, 2019, 05:23:45 AM
I see that the lifestyle of a gambler is all luxurious and it makes me think it's one of the reasons why they keep playing.
Of course they can do that if they are winning in gambling because that's easy money, in gambling, you can win as much as you want if you just have the skill to be consistent so a successful gambler, can always live a luxurious life if he desires, but there's only few of them who are having a success.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: doomistake on October 31, 2019, 11:46:04 AM
Gambling money is not dirty money, simply because you work hard for it! Just think of trading, when you are going to win in trading there is someone that is going to lose, is it dirty money? no! Gambling is just like trading but there's no analysis just pure 100% luck. Gambling money is something that you win by risk, it's just gonna be dirty money if you win it dirty for example you cheat on the game, that is what you call dirty money, but as long you are playing fair it will never be considered as dirty money.

Winning in gambling is hard without a doubt, but we cannot deny that fact that it is illegal, there are laws that's made by the Government, and just to inform you, those online casinos doesn't have any legal permit which is a requirement to legalize it as a business, like an actual casinos, but even though they have permits, the majority's mindset about the money we earn in gambling is dirty, therefore it is dirty.

It is their opinion, this is your opinion, and my opinion also, we believe what we want to believe, and I respect yours.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: TelolettOm on October 31, 2019, 01:01:53 PM
I see that the lifestyle of a gambler is all luxurious and it makes me think it's one of the reasons why they keep playing.
Of course they can do that if they are winning in gambling because that's easy money, in gambling, you can win as much as you want if you just have the skill to be consistent so a successful gambler, can always live a luxurious life if he desires, but there's only few of them who are having a success.
But now I see people who say "Success from Gambling" is not so great. even if there was maybe he himself a bookie. many people give the opinion that gambling actually makes us poor and that's what I have experienced. in my opinion it is indeed our own regarding a luxurious lifestyle that is natural when they win big. and it is very identical


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: BetHunter on October 31, 2019, 02:15:43 PM
I would not say its dirty unless your cleaning dirty money using gambling.... i know so many people who its just a hobby for them


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: tvplus006 on October 31, 2019, 03:18:34 PM
Winning in gambling is hard without a doubt, but we cannot deny that fact that it is illegal, there are laws that's made by the Government, and just to inform you, those online casinos doesn't have any legal permit which is a requirement to legalize it as a business, like an actual casinos, but even though they have permits, the majority's mindset about the money we earn in gambling is dirty, therefore it is dirty.
...
Regardless of whether an online casino is licensed or not, it still remains a gamble. Similarly, the statement that gambling is dirty money is not true. If gambling is prohibited in your country, then you should not break the laws.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: btc78 on October 31, 2019, 03:30:25 PM
I would not say its dirty unless your cleaning dirty money using gambling.... i know so many people who its just a hobby for them
Absolutely mate,there are people who just gamble for fun since they have so much money anD don’t know how to spend their assets,and we cannot consider that as dirty because those money are hard earned from him businesses and some other ways of profiteering
And same us here in crypto,my payments for bounty is being used to gamble,this wasn’t dirty because I worked for this


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: airdnasxela on October 31, 2019, 03:35:57 PM
Well I only consider money as "dirty" if I got it through illegal activities and if I have oppressed someone. But with gambling? I don't think so. They also gambled and if they lose and got their money, it's not my fault. I didn't do something bad against him. I got it in fair play so why should I consider it as dirty money? When I also worked for it and took risk for it. We have our own perception of how can we say it is ethical or not. But as long as I haven't hurt nor violated anything, then it's fine with me.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: MonsterV on October 31, 2019, 03:36:30 PM
I see that the lifestyle of a gambler is all luxurious and it makes me think it's one of the reasons why they keep playing.
Of course they can do that if they are winning in gambling because that's easy money, in gambling, you can win as much as you want if you just have the skill to be consistent so a successful gambler, can always live a luxurious life if he desires, but there's only few of them who are having a success.
But now I see people who say "Success from Gambling" is not so great. even if there was maybe he himself a bookie. many people give the opinion that gambling actually makes us poor and that's what I have experienced. in my opinion it is indeed our own regarding a luxurious lifestyle that is natural when they win big. and it is very identical

Those who say gambling makes us poor are people who fail and despair. Similarly, when we build a business, then when we fail we will be poor and it's not much different from failure in gambling. When we fail, it's not to complain and regret from what we did, but to correct the mistakes from what we did before.

And for luxurious life, in my opinion it is only a matter of adjustment, when people get richer, they will adjust to their needs and dreams.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: smyslov on October 31, 2019, 05:30:43 PM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/



The society has something to do with how you feel about gambling, our Muslim has lower regards about gambling compare to countries that are Christian but liberal in their views, for me it's not dirty money, it's still money whatever and however you want it to see,
in fact some countries are operating casinos so it can sustain their economy, it's their livelihood like in Macau.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: liuqi on October 31, 2019, 06:53:35 PM
Winning in gambling is hard without a doubt, but we cannot deny that fact that it is illegal, there are laws that's made by the Government, and just to inform you, those online casinos doesn't have any legal permit which is a requirement to legalize it as a business, like an actual casinos, but even though they have permits, the majority's mindset about the money we earn in gambling is dirty, therefore it is dirty.
...
Regardless of whether an online casino is licensed or not, it still remains a gamble. Similarly, the statement that gambling is dirty money is not true. If gambling is prohibited in your country, then you should not break the laws.


If that is not licensed if you get any trouble in payment that time you will feel which is really bad decision.
So when involve in gambling sites also you need to be little bit careful with the investment and then go with it. Because plenty of users lost their money and finally being a victim alone.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: senne on November 01, 2019, 01:40:03 AM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/



My family would probably disown me if they come to know that i do gamble at times and last time I got my mom something was from the gambling money. Money if earned or whatever by not killing someone is not dirty money. Lot of people live a good life with gambling as their second source of earning.Until you spend the money for your personal little desires without hurting anyone or the society is not dirty money.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: michellee on November 01, 2019, 04:08:35 AM
The society has something to do with how you feel about gambling, our Muslim has lower regards about gambling compare to countries that are Christian but liberal in their views, for me it's not dirty money, it's still money whatever and however you want it to see,
in fact some countries are operating casinos so it can sustain their economy, it's their livelihood like in Macau.

Maybe in the countries which accepting casino will not have a problem because people will not consider that money from gambling is dirty money. They use that money for many things, including giving money to people who needed. But for people who don't like gambling and they consider that money from gambling is dirty money, they will stay away from that and they will not accept the money from gambling. So that will depend on how people think about the money, and we cannot force them to feel the same as us.


Title: Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money
Post by: Best Dreams on November 01, 2019, 07:32:19 PM
I would not say its dirty unless your cleaning dirty money using gambling.... i know so many people who its just a hobby for them
Even if gambling is a hobby even then surely people will get concern about its earning and lose. When you invest your work and get profit so we get a reward from working its not dirty at all. We should not get affected by what people say just focus on gambling if you want to choose it as your earning or entertained resource, money can never be dirty it’s only people who talk all this.