Gambling Money is Dirty Money

[Vispilio]

This doesn't really make sense to me because isn't everything in life considered a gamble if you break it down.

If you hold US dollars you are gambling that they won't experience mass inflation and devaluation?

If you hold stocks your gambling that there won't be a huge market crash.

If you hold gold your gambling the price won't crash again.

This is a pretty smart way of looking at it, as long as an individual understands that in most games against the house, he has a negative edge,

he should be free to exercise his free will. The political interpretations of Islam has unfortunately turned it into a medieval tool of control,

drastically limiting freedom of thought and action (whereas it's essentially a very personal religion, and can be very liberal),

hence the extremely backwards state of all nations that adopt Islam as their state's official religion...

[btc-facebook]

everyone has their own opinions, we must respect that, and I also value your opinion about gambling, as long as there is no offending element,
but I'm sure gambling is not the right reason to make money, because gambling only makes us lose, and it's different from gambling owners, it will be profitable no matter what the method or form.

[samputin]

If you are looking at it from a religious point of view, sure, it is morally wrong and you are not allowed to gamble.

It really is just a matter of point of view. Religiously speaking, yes, it's a sin. But on the other hand, I don't see it as a way of earning dirty money. 'Dirty money', for me, is something gained from an unjust way like corruption, or other illegal activities.

In gambling, a person still somehow worked hard for it. I mean, he could've stayed long hours analysing the strategies that would and wouldn't work for him. As long as the money that he used to gamble is from his own pocket, then there's nothing wrong with it.

[michellee]

everyone has their own opinions, we must respect that, and I also value your opinion about gambling, as long as there is no offending element,
but I'm sure gambling is not the right reason to make money, because gambling only makes us lose, and it's different from gambling owners, it will be profitable no matter what the method or form.

Maybe we can agree that gambling is a part to enjoy life although some people will not agree with this. But yes, we have a different opinion about gambling itself, and we hope that everyone should respect others opinion.

As long as we can positioning ourselves in the right thing, I think we can choose whatever we want. And to gamble or not will be your option because we can feel what the best for us and we need to prevent the wrong thing that is not good for us. I agree that gambling is not a way to make money, and we need to know that.

[libert19]

I do not consider it as a dirty money but I do think gambling makes your mind kind of null and you don't get anything worthy from it. So better is to leave it, than arguing about it.

Although, I sometimes gamble for entertainment, if i win then good, I would withdraw the capital and play with winnings, which I would lose sooner. So, I only withdrew my own money and not 'gambling money'.

If I lose I had lost it at the moment i brought it to the casino, no attachment.

[Janation]

To define 'dirty money' is money obtained unlawfully or immorally.
When I think of 'dirty money' I am thinking about money obtained by doing something illegal or harming a person maybe even drugs
Since gambling is legal where I am from I can not consider it dirty
Like your examples I know of people who feed his family from playing cards- how is this dirty money if he does nothing wrong

But OP also mentioned Islam in which I think he’s Religion and since it was forbidden from Muslim then it become Dirty money.no matter how good we deal with gambling yet it will be a Negative as not allowed by their religion and that’s the sad reality
Also there are countries that treat gambling as illegal activities so this also applied to the people live in those countries

Obviously, what the OP is saying is not dirty money.

If we will be talking about a money that did not comes out of something without doing wrong, then that is not money.

Dirty money is out of hand since he already defined what that is.

[leea-1334]

But OP also mentioned Islam in which I think he’s Religion and since it was forbidden from Muslim then it become Dirty money.no matter how good we deal with gambling yet it will be a Negative as not allowed by their religion and that’s the sad reality
Also there are countries that treat gambling as illegal activities so this also applied to the people live in those countries

It is about intent I always say as I understand and learn. And yes, strictly speaking this means as long as the income is from gambling even in a small way, then it is not possible for them to use it in a clean way.

But this is all personal matter to me, the state should not meddle when the state gambles with the economy all the time!

[lixer]

I completely disagree with this notion that Gambling is dirty money, we gamblers don’t steal money and play with it rather we play using our hard earned savings. Religion beliefs are not always right and people should not follow them blindly, they should use logic and then make an opinion about it.

I don’t think these has anything to do with religious belief but rather morals because ideally we all know that any profit we make is gotten from some else’s loss. I may be gambling and feel there’s nothing bad with it but deep down I understand this aspect.

Some weeks back I won some money on a casino site, I was really happy and on my way home, I met a friend in a public transport. He looked very down and when I asked him what the problem was, he explained to me how he lost so much money on a gambling site, it was even more than what I gained, and apparently, I won mine from his loss, I felt ashamed to even tell him about my win and deep down I felt guilty. Money from gambling is dirty, whether we agree with it or not.

[panjul07]

Pro Contra about gambling does exist and it will stay like this forever, we have our own opinion about gambling as well as other opinion that is the opposite to our own opinion. We do need to respect each other opinions only, we should not force others to think the same as what we think. I respect those who thinks that gambling money is dirty money but I don't think that way. My own opinion is that as long as the money I used to gamble or I earn from gambling does not affect other people's life then I'll say it is clear money, the same as money that I earn from other sources.

[lienfaye]

I respect other religions belief about gambling but I dont agree that gambling money is considered dirty because you didnt obtain the money in illegal form, you accumulate those through winning.

I dont feel any guilt everytime I win, its meant for me since I just play and didnt harm others.

Well we have different opinion regarding this and it depends on what you believe in.

[shield132]

This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). ^[1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. ^[2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?

Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/

Ah I understand what and how they think, you don't have to build your happiness on someone's sadness, yeah, I agree with you but did anyone pushes any player to sell house and gamble with that amount of money? Of course no but what to do with people who gamble just for fun? Are such incomes still bad? For example imagine I have dedicated budget (max 50$ monthly) to gamble with, I gamble daily with 2$ just for fun because this casino offers game which I like with it's game idea, structure and design, can't find something 100% analogue for free. Is there still anything wrong here? There are also some gamblers who gamble with thousands of dollars because they are very rich and it's nothing for them, they get extra fun from it.

[Icologies]

This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). ^[1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. ^[2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?

Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/

gambling in the view of Islam is indeed haram and is not very good. people whose religion is strong surely know that it is strictly prohibited. but we are just ordinary people, people think differently. my advice still think about the trust that you believe right now. for Islam money is not everything, but faith takes precedence.

[Ucy]

This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). ^[1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. ^[2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?

Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/

I can understand why people still hold those beliefs about gambling, as we know a person that is addicted to gambling can lose everything very quickly but they are a very small portion of all of those that gamble, and it could be argued that those that are addicted to gambling could have gotten addicted to something else and still lose their money even if gambling was forbidden, so while I respect those that have those views I do not have any problem with someone that gambles for fun.

Exactly. Lots of things that are considered legal can lead people to addiction. Examples are soft-drink, sugar, tasty food, games, etc.
Basically enjoying any fun thing that has more harmful than harmless side could lead to addiction.
So I guess one of the solutions to addiction is to gradually replace the addictive things with fun things that are similar but beneficial & harmless to the enjoyers

[bering]

Just like i said before if you see gambling from religion side then obviously almost all of religions forbid gambling and they will never accept donation from gambling earning besides they called it as dirty money and it's also sin but i think all of it depend on each person to see gambling earning as dirty money or not and i think there always be debate regarding gambling and religion

[iMark]

To define 'dirty money' is money obtained unlawfully or immorally.
When I think of 'dirty money' I am thinking about money obtained by doing something illegal or harming a person maybe even drugs
Since gambling is legal where I am from I can not consider it dirty
Like your examples I know of people who feed his family from playing cards- how is this dirty money if he does nothing wrong

But OP also mentioned Islam in which I think he’s Religion and since it was forbidden from Muslim then it become Dirty money.no matter how good we deal with gambling yet it will be a Negative as not allowed by their religion and that’s the sad reality
Also there are countries that treat gambling as illegal activities so this also applied to the people live in those countries

Yeah we respect those religious rules, but all the choices go back to everyone wants to follow it or not. I myself assume that dirty money is money generated from crimes such as theft, robbery, cheating, scamming and others thing that harm others people.

[Wonder_woman]

This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). ^[1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. ^[2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?

Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/

Yes l also consider gambling money is a dirty money because as a member in the church we are not allowed to gamble because its bad. So a money from gambling is bad too. Because in gambling they used to be greedy, selfish and other bad characteristic  just to win the game.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

There so many religion on the world and every religion have their own faith and rules. Personally I don't hate any religion even that's no mine. I believe so many religion believe gambling is a dirty way to earn money. Money can't be dirty but the earning way could be dirty. I respect them also who had not received money from gambling. Because everyone should respect at least his own religion. So I don't think we should make argue about that.

That's just the fact, money will always be money, it doesn't matter how it was earned. The source of money could be considering dirty that's based on your religious beliefs but not the money itself. Gambling is illegal in some countries that means earning of money through gambling will be considered a dirty (dishonest) form of earning money in those countries but it doesn't automatically means earning money via gambling is wrong or dirty everywhere else.

In my opinion the world is just filled with so many religion and they're just contradicting themselves. The only reason behind gambling been tagged a dirty source of income is that for you to earn money, you have to take another individuals money so this religion are just trying to discourage the act of taking other people money but forgetting same time applies to other form of earning like trading, investing etc.

[FlightyPouch]

To define 'dirty money' is money obtained unlawfully or immorally.
When I think of 'dirty money' I am thinking about money obtained by doing something illegal or harming a person maybe even drugs
Since gambling is legal where I am from I can not consider it dirty
Like your examples I know of people who feed his family from playing cards- how is this dirty money if he does nothing wrong

But OP also mentioned Islam in which I think he’s Religion and since it was forbidden from Muslim then it become Dirty money.no matter how good we deal with gambling yet it will be a Negative as not allowed by their religion and that’s the sad reality
Also there are countries that treat gambling as illegal activities so this also applied to the people live in those countries

Yeah we respect those religious rules, but all the choices go back to everyone wants to follow it or not. I myself assume that dirty money is money generated from crimes such as theft, robbery, cheating, scamming and others thing that harm others people.

Obviously since if you are reading the OP, dirty money is obtained unmorally and unlawfully, and you just ellaborate that. For me, dirty money is still money. No matter what they think as long as I am doing nothing wrong and I received that money as a donation, I would accept that since in the first place, I don't of that is dirty money or not, all I know is I am grateful to that person helping me.

[imstillthebest]

For me, dirty money is still money. No matter what they think as long as I am doing nothing wrong and I received that money as a donation, I would accept that since in the first place, I don't of that is dirty money or not, all I know is I am grateful to that person helping me.

but what if you are aware that the your friend is a thief and he stole that money to someone else and he gave you some of it  .

will you still accept it ?  if that scenario happens to me i think i will think twice . 

 but i your friend is a good friend and he earns his money thru his own hardwork but he gambles it and if he won and gave you some , that will be more acceptable  and its not what we call a dirty money   .

[noormcs5]

This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). ^[1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. ^[2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?

Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/

If you are considering gambling in terms of religion that these are not old fashioned views. If Gambling is prohibited in certain religion then it will remain prohibited forever and you cannot decline them by declaring them old fashioned. Other then this, no one considered gambling as a dirty money. People risk their real money to get more money from gambling and they do not want it to be called "Dirty money".