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Title: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: plvbob0070 on April 10, 2020, 11:23:38 AM
Casinos and other non-essential businesses were temporarily closed due to the virus spreading the word. We often think about gambling businesses having no income, and the decrease of the stock market. But we're forgetting about their employees who get no job and salary in the current situation.

Casino workers in Las Vegas showed their disappointment and anger towards their employers who failed to help and provide them what they need. Famous Las Vegas Strip of glitzy hotels and casino is closed due to lockdown, and thousands of their employees were left with no work and income. However, some casinos were able to support their workers and offered them a two-week salary, others gave four, while some gave nothing.

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"This is not going to sustain us — we need to feed our families, we need to put food on the table, we have bills mounting up,” said Debra Jeffries, a cocktail waitress for four decades at a major Strip casino.

Las Vegas has more than 40 million visitors every year and it is known for casinos. According to the American Gaming Association, if all casinos in the US will continue to be closed until mid-May, including nearby restaurants and bars, $43.5 billion in economic activity will lose.


The treasurer-secretary of the giant Las Vegas-based Culinary Union, Geoconda Arguello-Kline called giant operating casinos to do their responsibility in the community.

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“We feel the casino industry right now, they left their workers alone… it’s a very painful situation,” said Arguello-Kline.




Although it's awful that some successful casino owners and management forget to protect and help their employees who helped them to become successful, some casino owners were able to send help and give their employees the salary they need. Perhaps they don't care about their employees' financial struggle because they have a lot of money, and they can survive the whole lockdown with that money.

It's their responsibility to give them a salary even if the business is closed. They should be prepared in times like this, and for sure they have an emergency fund to provide their employees. It's only a simple sacrifice for the employees who have been working for them every day.

Source:
Code:
https://news.mb.com.ph/2020/04/10/las-vegas-casino-workers-abandoned-in-ghost-town/




Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: BlackFor3st on April 10, 2020, 11:30:20 AM
Casinos and other non-essential businesses were temporarily closed due to the virus spreading the word. We often think about gambling businesses having no income, and the decrease of the stock market. But we're forgetting about their employees who get no job and salary in the current situation.

Casino workers in Las Vegas showed their disappointment and anger towards their employers who failed to help and provide them what they need. Famous Las Vegas Strip of glitzy hotels and casino is closed due to lockdown, and thousands of their employees were left with no work and income. However, some casinos were able to support their workers and offered them a two-week salary, others gave four, while some gave nothing.

Quote
"This is not going to sustain us — we need to feed our families, we need to put food on the table, we have bills mounting up,” said Debra Jeffries, a cocktail waitress for four decades at a major Strip casino.

Las Vegas has more than 40 million visitors every year and it is known for casinos. According to the American Gaming Association, if all casinos in the US will continue to be closed until mid-May, including nearby restaurants and bars, $43.5 billion in economic activity will lose.


The treasurer-secretary of the giant Las Vegas-based Culinary Union, Geoconda Arguello-Kline called giant operating casinos to do their responsibility in the community.

Quote
“We feel the casino industry right now, they left their workers alone… it’s a very painful situation,” said Arguello-Kline.

Although it's awful that some successful casino owners and management forget to protect and help their employees who helped them to become successful, some casino owners were able to send help and give their employees the salary they need. Perhaps they don't care about their employees' financial struggle because they have a lot of money, and they can survive the whole lockdown with that money.

It's their responsibility to give them a salary even if the business is closed. They should be prepared in times like this, and for sure they have an emergency fund to provide their employees. It's only a simple sacrifice for the employees who have been working for them every day.

Source:
Code:
https://news.mb.com.ph/2020/04/10/las-vegas-casino-workers-abandoned-in-ghost-town/



This only concludes how important to have a savings so we can prepare to this kind of scenario and for the workers, I cannot blame them if they are asking their employers for a salary because they need money right now in order to buy food and etc. just to survive in this type of situation.

In our country, the government are asking for employers to pay their employee a one month salary during the lock down and this is to help the employee in surviving the lock down. If the government in Las Vegas will do the same then it can surely help the employee to get their salary but if not the employee will have to wait for their employers whether they are kind enough to give some money to their affected employee.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: NeuroticFish on April 10, 2020, 11:31:26 AM
But we're forgetting about their employees who get no job and salary in the current situation.

Unfortunately this happens in many industries now. Some value their employees enough to put the "only" into "technical unemployment" where they still get some money and they can count on a job when this madness ends, but many businesses probably won't do this much and that's sad (and a real problem everywhere).


It's again a situation where the rich won't lose anything (or even gain) and the poor will be poorer. Because the relatively poor ones, the workers, are expendable  >:(
The next year(s) may be full of such stories / tragedies. And the governments are, as usual, slow and unprepared.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: carlisle1 on April 10, 2020, 11:55:42 AM
People around the world now are crying for help and this is not the Government,Employers nor Employees fault this is a Crisis and everyone should bare with this,we need to at least tighten our Belts for a while.

we must not live like what our normal ways because this will not save us from Hell.let us just spend smaller than half of our usual days.
the problem is People tend to just ask for help but don't just help their self.

But of course we Know casinos that has a tons of money inside and it is simple for them to help thousand employees if they want.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: KrisAlex18 on April 10, 2020, 11:57:22 AM
I think this is possible because in our country all of the workers has been given an assitance by the Department of Labor and Employment and some company requires to give assistance to their workers as well, it is the right thing to do because they are all deserve that help with all their hardworks and efforts for the company. A simple help with their boss with this current situation where crisis is still affecting so many lives is very appreciative, this would make them more loyal working on your company.
Casino gambling is very profitable so the assistance that they are going to give to ther employee is just a simple thing for them. They earn so much money in casino so I think they will help their workers.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Danslip on April 10, 2020, 11:59:53 AM
The worst has not arrived yet :( Let alone the gambling industry, whole world population is under the risk of economic collapse and this probability increases not in the every week but in every hour. The infinite cash solution will pop one day the bubble and the FED will be late to help the world economy. The short breaths are the sign of the economic shutdown and gambling industry is not an exception here, unfortunately.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Clark05 on April 10, 2020, 12:02:03 PM
I think they need support their workerd because once this lockdown end for sure many of them will appreciate of the founder of casinos do but if they did not help maybe they find another casino to work.  And also of they did not want to spend a big money just give their employee a supply of food and I think it is very little for them because everymonth or weeks they earn millions of dollars.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: pakhitheboss on April 10, 2020, 12:14:57 PM
Only the poor and the needy will suffer whereas the rich are still enjoying in this lockdown. I had read today on one of the news portal that newly 17m people have lost thier job in America. How will they survive in these desperate situation? They have a mouths to feed, rent to be paid and all other daily liabilities.





Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Lakai01 on April 10, 2020, 12:37:24 PM
But we're forgetting about their employees who get no job and salary in the current situation.
That is true, of course, but it does not only affect the gaming industry by far. Almost all economic sectors are affected by the crisis, be it producers of goods, industries with direct customer contact (e.g. consultants, bank employees, ...) and also employees in the casinos.

How companies are now dealing with the crisis and how they treat their employees during the crisis says a lot about the companies themselves, but will also show us which companies will be able to survive after the crisis. Because only those who behave fairly and socially even during the crisis will quickly find new employees in a phase of upswing after Corona.

This only concludes how important to have a savings so we can prepare to this kind of scenario and for the workers, I cannot blame them if they are asking their employers for a salary because they need money right now in order to buy food and etc. just to survive in this type of situation.

In a crisis like this, where potentially no sales are made for months, even a company's best reserves don't help. Imagine a medium-sized company with 10,000 employees. An employee here in Central Europe costs around 30 euros an hour. So you have to have reserves of 2.4 million euros (30 * 8 * 10000) per day. A company of this size might do well for a month, and two or more months inevitably lead to insolvency.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Rosilito on April 10, 2020, 01:00:16 PM
Casinos and other non-essential businesses were temporarily closed due to the virus spreading the word. We often think about gambling businesses having no income, and the decrease of the stock market. But we're forgetting about their employees who get no job and salary in the current situation.
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This is the big problem in a no work no pay basis. We couldn't blame the business for not giving some benefits help as they are suffering as well in this crisis, beside, there's no order existing for companies, businesses being obliged to provide some monetary help, or to provide goods for their employees (please correct me if I am wrong), that's why, may be they don't have any initiative to release some money or goods. Don't get me wrong, I am dishearten to hear this, and I feel sorry for those employees whom been left by their employers.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: virasog on April 10, 2020, 01:11:47 PM
Casinos and other non-essential businesses were temporarily closed due to the virus spreading the word. We often think about gambling businesses having no income, and the decrease of the stock market. But we're forgetting about their employees who get no job and salary in the current situation.

Casino workers in Las Vegas showed their disappointment and anger towards their employers who failed to help and provide them what they need. Famous Las Vegas Strip of glitzy hotels and casino is closed due to lockdown, and thousands of their employees were left with no work and income. However, some casinos were able to support their workers and offered them a two-week salary, others gave four, while some gave nothing.

Quote
"This is not going to sustain us — we need to feed our families, we need to put food on the table, we have bills mounting up,” said Debra Jeffries, a cocktail waitress for four decades at a major Strip casino.

Las Vegas has more than 40 million visitors every year and it is known for casinos. According to the American Gaming Association, if all casinos in the US will continue to be closed until mid-May, including nearby restaurants and bars, $43.5 billion in economic activity will lose.


The treasurer-secretary of the giant Las Vegas-based Culinary Union, Geoconda Arguello-Kline called giant operating casinos to do their responsibility in the community.

Quote
“We feel the casino industry right now, they left their workers alone… it’s a very painful situation,” said Arguello-Kline.

Although it's awful that some successful casino owners and management forget to protect and help their employees who helped them to become successful, some casino owners were able to send help and give their employees the salary they need. Perhaps they don't care about their employees' financial struggle because they have a lot of money, and they can survive the whole lockdown with that money.

It's their responsibility to give them a salary even if the business is closed. They should be prepared in times like this, and for sure they have an emergency fund to provide their employees. It's only a simple sacrifice for the employees who have been working for them every day.

Source:
Code:
https://news.mb.com.ph/2020/04/10/las-vegas-casino-workers-abandoned-in-ghost-town/



This only concludes how important to have a savings so we can prepare to this kind of scenario and for the workers, I cannot blame them if they are asking their employers for a salary because they need money right now in order to buy food and etc. just to survive in this type of situation.

In our country, the government are asking for employers to pay their employee a one month salary during the lock down and this is to help the employee in surviving the lock down. If the government in Las Vegas will do the same then it can surely help the employee to get their salary but if not the employee will have to wait for their employers whether they are kind enough to give some money to their affected employee.

The casino earns a lot throughout the year. Infact running a casino is one of the most popular business out there which give you very good returns. So in these hard times, it is the moral duty of the casino owners to pay their workers. I know casino are closed and they got no revenue this month, but they can give still give salaries to their employees from their own pocket.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Kasabus on April 10, 2020, 01:22:27 PM
I don't think this is the obligation of the casino to feed the workers, unless it's part of the contract that they will get a remuneration in situation like this.
Like the casino, when they have income they also save for unforeseen events, so employees has also to ensure they have some savings to prepare for unforeseen situation..  If casino will give, this is only based on their discretion but they are not required.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Shimmiry on April 10, 2020, 01:23:38 PM

Although it's awful that some successful casino owners and management forget to protect and help their employees who helped them to become successful, some casino owners were able to send help and give their employees the salary they need. Perhaps they don't care about their employees' financial struggle because they have a lot of money, and they can survive the whole lockdown with that money.

It's their responsibility to give them a salary even if the business is closed. They should be prepared in times like this, and for sure they have an emergency fund to provide their employees. It's only a simple sacrifice for the employees who have been working for them every day.


We can't blame the owners of the said casino as every employment comes with an agreement that has all the rules, responsibilities, and even the perks and pensions they can have in each and every possible situation. And if ever there are no indications in their memorandum or an ordinance by their local employment department, there would be no chance for them to have an emergency salary.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: ethereumhunter on April 10, 2020, 01:42:56 PM
It is normal to see the employee asking for salary during the lockdown, but the problem is how the owner can pay them if the business is not running and the owner also has a problem in making money? I think maybe the owner can pay for 3 months, but after 3 months, I think the owner will feel difficult to pay the salary as they cannot make money and they cannot guarantee their employee to get the money. This impact on all business that has been closed or shutdown temporary because of the virus. And the owner can not do anything except explaining the situations to their employee.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Periodik on April 10, 2020, 01:53:51 PM
This is one of the hardest parts of this crisis we are currently facing. Businesses like these casinos have no income and so they probably don't have enough money to support the salaries of their entire working staff while there is no money coming in. Others are lucky enough to be able to continue providing salaries to their workers for weeks even if they are not earning anything. But not every single casino is in that better position.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: stomachgrowls on April 10, 2020, 01:57:52 PM
Im not totally against with casino owners on this situation.I know its a bit selfish but no one would sustain to support lots of workers and would spend out to give their needs since we do know that this situation do still have indefinite schedule or isnt clear yet on when it would normalize.Maybe as a casino owner- you would consider on giving out donations but doesnt mean that they would be the one to support the living
of their workers on this pandemic situation.This is the reality and for those people who took risk on running a business and becomes successful then its their advantage but it doesnt mean that they would
have the full responsibility in times like these.

2week salary or a whole month consideration would be enough and people shouldnt really expect that they would be given an aide from time to time.Lots of industries had been affected
not only on gambling area alone.Therefore, they arent the only one's whose suffering.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: sana54210 on April 10, 2020, 01:58:43 PM
Not just casino workers, all the people who are not having adequate saving might be facing very tough times on these isolation periods. How most governments and private owners are going to handle this situation is going to decide further consequences of shutdown. Governments are working only on preventing spread of the virus and not thinking about how people will survive without income stream. Commonly people might be having saving for one month at least and when extending the shut down for more time, governments must work on feeding those suffering people.

I am afraid without any proper curing medicine these corona mess will not be settled down. Because, even governments start allowing casino to run their business, I doubt gamblers may not prefer visiting it. Only after people will start living their usual life, there is a medicine for corona.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: crwth on April 10, 2020, 02:18:33 PM
I saw a social media post where it's better to emphasize employee loyalty, instead of the money itself. Seeing that casinos are always about money, they have chosen the latter, for sure.

I think the best way for them to stay in that casino is that the company gives them benefits of some sort and not rely on the government to help them. I think that seems fair.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Kong Hey Pakboy on April 10, 2020, 02:43:03 PM
Not only casino workers are asking for their salaries in advance during these lockdowns and community quarantines because every employees are now asking for their salaries to their bosses and for help to their government, so they could feed their families everyday until the virus was totally cleared. It is really hard for every workers in a casino and other businesses for them to lose their jobs because it is really hard to live everyday without any source of income, that is why i wanted to end this nightmare for us not to be killed in starvation and in the virus.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: dothebeats on April 10, 2020, 02:48:54 PM
Not only the casinos and the gambling industries have been left behind by their management but also non-essential businesses. It's really a punch in the gut when your livelihood depends on businesses that are not operational during these kinds of disasters, but there's nothing you can do but to just barely survive and wait the rain out. Hopefully though governments would press down hard on these industries to at least give some form of help to their employees in times of need.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: imstillthebest on April 10, 2020, 02:53:03 PM
on our country  government here declare some good rules like companies should give the 13th month pay or the xmas bonus of their employees  but in a half only   . in that way these people can have something during thier no work period plus they can still get something before the year ends   . that is a good idea to solve poverty during crisis aside from the relief operations that govt's are giving  . on the other hand , only online casinos are now making money  but not offline if they are on the country where virus is in outbreak  .


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: joshy23 on April 10, 2020, 02:55:53 PM
Not only the casinos and the gambling industries have been left behind by their management but also non-essential businesses. It's really a punch in the gut when your livelihood depends on businesses that are not operational during these kinds of disasters, but there's nothing you can do but to just barely survive and wait the rain out. Hopefully though governments would press down hard on these industries to at least give some form of help to their employees in times of need.
There's no option since you will going to choose between life and death as this virus can affect everyone. All businesses which been affected of this lockdown needs financial support both from the employers and the government, this no work no pay system really hurting everyone but it's still best to choose your life and survive from this crisis than risk your own life trying to keep working.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Quidat on April 10, 2020, 02:59:17 PM
Not only the casinos and the gambling industries have been left behind by their management but also non-essential businesses. It's really a punch in the gut when your livelihood depends on businesses that are not operational during these kinds of disasters, but there's nothing you can do but to just barely survive and wait the rain out. Hopefully though governments would press down hard on these industries to at least give some form of help to their employees in times of need.
There's no option since you will going to choose between life and death as this virus can affect everyone. All businesses which been affected of this lockdown needs financial support both from the employers and the government, this no work no pay system really hurting everyone but it's still best to choose your life and survive from this crisis than risk your own life trying to keep working.

But majority do leave out no other option but to work inspite of the crisis we are facing on since they do know that they wont eat nothing if they dont work.
For those who forcely being stopped then theres no other option but to seek help into their employer or into the government itself.Its just normal for you to
do all sorts of ways for us to survive.There should be at least some humanitarian consideration when it comes to support because its really hard when you
have nothing at all specially on the food you do eat.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: plvbob0070 on April 10, 2020, 03:06:10 PM
~snip
This only concludes how important to have a savings so we can prepare to this kind of scenario and for the workers, I cannot blame them if they are asking their employers for a salary because they need money right now in order to buy food and etc. just to survive in this type of situation.

In our country, the government are asking for employers to pay their employee a one month salary during the lock down and this is to help the employee in surviving the lock down. If the government in Las Vegas will do the same then it can surely help the employee to get their salary but if not the employee will have to wait for their employers whether they are kind enough to give some money to their affected employee.

You're right. We can't just spend our money like there's no tomorrow. I know some gamblers are facing this problem since it's hard for them to control their gambling habits. But we really need to save money for emergencies. We can not always gamble our extra money, we should also save it.

It's reasonable for employees to ask for a salary because they also have their rights. Although not everyone, some companies tend to decrease their employees' leave during the whole lockdown but they are being paid. Why can't others do that when their business is doing well?

I think they need support their workerd because once this lockdown end for sure many of them will appreciate of the founder of casinos do but if they did not help maybe they find another casino to work.  And also of they did not want to spend a big money just give their employee a supply of food and I think it is very little for them because everymonth or weeks they earn millions of dollars.

Indeed. Every company should have cared for their employees' health, and their livings. A single employee might not be that important for a big company, but the company won't function without their workers. They can earn back their expenses when they can go back to business. They are earning a lot, knowing that Las Vegas is really known for casinos.

Only the poor and the needy will suffer whereas the rich are still enjoying in this lockdown. I had read today on one of the news portal that newly 17m people have lost thier job in America. How will they survive in these desperate situation? They have a mouths to feed, rent to be paid and all other daily liabilities.

As far as I know, some workers in those casinos are filing their unemployment. Due to COVID-19 big percent of businesses running the economy have been affected by the virus. What more for every employee on those companies, right?


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Natalim on April 10, 2020, 03:14:04 PM
Casinos will be heavily affected, and even after the lock down, there income will still gonna reduce as it will take time until the world will be back to normal again. the government lose money because their main source is taxes,, without the companies earning big profit, they can't generate tax and as a result the country will struggle.

Now, to these workers asking for salary during shutdown, I guess this needs to be reviewed properly, they can't just ask anything when it's not part of their agreement, and the fact that no one games in this situation, workers has to also understand their employers.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: sheenshane on April 10, 2020, 03:36:34 PM
All kind of businesses was down their revenues at this moment and they are also affected by this pandemic covid19. All companies at this time must be helped by their workers/employees. They are oblique to pay their employees because the government announced home quarantine during this pandemic and the government was also issued an order that employers must pay 1 month equal to monthly wages with no conveyance expenses. Employees have the right to ask financial support to their employers.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: erep on April 10, 2020, 03:44:15 PM
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It's their responsibility to give them a salary even if the business is closed. They should be prepared in times like this, and for sure they have an emergency fund to provide their employees. It's only a simple sacrifice for the employees who have been working for them every day.
The giant gambling industry certainly has an emergency fund management to anticipate things that happen unreasonably. If workers are valued for years serving the gambling industry, then all efforts to use emergency funds are realized for workers' salaries during the lockdown.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: noormcs5 on April 10, 2020, 06:16:41 PM
on our country  government here declare some good rules like companies should give the 13th month pay or the xmas bonus of their employees  but in a half only   . in that way these people can have something during thier no work period plus they can still get something before the year ends   . that is a good idea to solve poverty during crisis aside from the relief operations that govt's are giving  . on the other hand , only online casinos are now making money  but not offline if they are on the country where virus is in outbreak  .

This is a good initiative by your country but this may not help much to those who are becoming jobless due to this virus. Many firms have fired people because they do not have any money to pay to them. Business have stopped, people are losing their jobs. The world is becoming too much difficult to live in this situation.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: seleme on April 10, 2020, 06:37:29 PM
Governments have bailout plans and other related economic packets for helping the threatened sectors of the economy. The latest global lockdown has affected the casino workers too and the situation becomes worse every day of the quarantine. Gamblers have alternative choices such as playing online games but the conditions are not fair for casino employees.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: mindrust on April 10, 2020, 06:43:41 PM
No work, no pay.

How teh fck the employer can pay if he doesn't make any money? They can't. The government should pay their salaries by printing money. There is no other way. It is not just casinos too. It is everywhere. My own business lost %50 of its income since last month. I am about to get fcked too.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Chrystora123 on April 10, 2020, 06:55:39 PM
snip..
This is a problem that is overtaken by the average of all workers in various industries throughout the world..  no one really wants this "PANDEMIC" to happen but it has already happened.  all workers who are currently losing their jobs can only do to report to the government of their respective countries because I have heard that each country has allocated large funds to meet the needs of their citizens affected by COVID-19 as my country did..


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: dothebeats on April 10, 2020, 07:27:49 PM
There's no option since you will going to choose between life and death as this virus can affect everyone. All businesses which been affected of this lockdown needs financial support both from the employers and the government, this no work no pay system really hurting everyone but it's still best to choose your life and survive from this crisis than risk your own life trying to keep working.

From where I'm at, the government is kind enough to send some goods and some money on our way until the quarantine period is over. Best estimates for the curve to flatten on my country (the Philippines) is up until June, which is a good 3 months since the initial lockdown on March 16. Private sectors and companies, especially those top corporations are also kind enough to chip in whatever they can even though they are already operating at a loss. Technically everyone is in emergency mode, with little to no resources to work with however the government 'can' basically provide food for the next 3 months. Payments on power, water and other things are essentially suspended for the time being, so there's that. I myself am a volunteer on a hospital and have my main job stopped, so I live off of donations and some money I have saved for myself. I understand the sentiment of everyone regarding this crisis, but if help is truly being delivered, people should not have any reasons to still go out. I'm not speaking out of privilege or luck, as I myself have nothing to pay for rent within the next month but if people cooperate well with the government on the effort to prevent the virus from spreading, normalcy would be had in a month or two.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Oilacris on April 10, 2020, 07:43:17 PM
No work, no pay.

How teh fck the employer can pay if he doesn't make any money? They can't. The government should pay their salaries by printing money. There is no other way. It is not just casinos too. It is everywhere. My own business lost %50 of its income since last month. I am about to get fcked too.
All business owners does have the same problem and people shouldnt only look on how these people do make money and trying to tell them that
they are obligated to help their workers.Of course its no work no pay, you can help but doesnt mean that you will support them in the end.
This kind of problem is in indeed government related where they do help out their residents into their vicinity when it comes to relief goods
and other needs during this crisis.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: mersal on April 10, 2020, 08:06:35 PM
Most of those workers will be working there from different countries as welll so they may not get those packages offered by US government so they have nothing now.They must be having some kind of associations or not? to help them in such crisis and they should be also called as organized workers since its is legal to gamble there.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: kawetsriyanto on April 10, 2020, 08:06:47 PM
Not only on Casino, but the workers of other industries also do the same way. They ask for the salary although they don't work and stay at home. This is a complicated thing since we also cannot blame the owner of their companies with no work activities during the shutdown. Some companies have suffered big losses during the shutdown. This lead to the dismissal of employees. So, I am worried that it will happen as well in Casino workers.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Debonaire217 on April 10, 2020, 08:38:01 PM
Sadly, most of the government aren't really support it just like the salary of frontliners we have. But they are still employees too. In our country, every employee was given their advance salary. As long as they are tax payers, they have their rights to request for financial assistance. As we should consider, no matter if you are rich or poor, we're all the same in times like this.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: harizen on April 10, 2020, 09:18:07 PM

If I'm not mistaken, the Las Vegas entertainment haven was shut down on March 21,22 or around that day (someone can correct me on this).

Supposedly, workers should still have the salary to collect today or that was already distributed? I also don't know the whole story but are the workers literally got nothing from their employers since the outbreak happen?

At least somehow, the company should understand the situation. It's not that they will support those workers until the situation got back to normal but at least, they should arrange a fair compensation as support even it will just last a couple of weeks. People will now depend on their LGU's after that.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: adzino on April 10, 2020, 09:31:41 PM
Everyone has been affected by this shutdown. Its not only those "casino workers" that are being affected by the shutdown. Its your government that should take steps to protect its citizen. It is their responsibility to make sure their people are not suffering financially. Some government around the world are paying like 70% - 80% of the wages if you are eligible.
These are hard times going on and NO one was prepared for this. Instead of blaming or crying randomly, look for options that are open for you.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Twinkledoe on April 10, 2020, 09:33:09 PM
Not only on Casino, but the workers of other industries also do the same way. They ask for the salary although they don't work and stay at home. This is a complicated thing since we also cannot blame the owner of their companies with no work activities during the shutdown. Some companies have suffered big losses during the shutdown. This lead to the dismissal of employees. So, I am worried that it will happen as well in Casino workers.

But considering that casino owners are rich and they can very well afford to provide at least the monthly wage of their workers to at least survive this pandemic. These owners don't have to do charity work outside, just providing the basic salary of their workers would be more than enough. Ok they have losses, but before this pandemic happens, they are earning millions of dollars per day and how much is the salary of their workers? I really hope they will consider the welfare of their employees. Once this is over, those workers might think twice if they want to go back to their old jobs.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: DarkDays on April 10, 2020, 09:47:11 PM
Unpopular opinion here... I don't think the casinos should pay the employees during the shutdown.

Casinos pay employees to work, if they're not working why should they get paid? Casinos and most jobs don't care about the livelihoods of their employers, their main purpose is obviously to make money. They clearly won't be making money if they're not even open. Sure, they could continue paying their employees now and go bankrupt off the back of it. Or they could just not pay them and let the government step up to protect its tax payers.

An employer-employee relationship shouldn't mean you should suddenly start paying people to do nothing when shit hits the fan. If these people don't have their own savings then that's on them.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: goinmerry on April 10, 2020, 09:51:02 PM
But considering that casino owners are rich and they can very well afford to provide at least the monthly wage of their workers to at least survive this pandemic. These owners don't have to do charity work outside, just providing the basic salary of their workers would be more than enough. Ok they have losses, but before this pandemic happens, they are earning millions of dollars per day and how much is the salary of their workers? I really hope they will consider the welfare of their employees. Once this is over, those workers might think twice if they want to go back to their old jobs.

Do you mean these rich owners should support their employers a lifetime or while shutdown? What if the lockdown lasted for about a year? They aren't obliged to do it since in the first place all are affected. Being them as rich doesn't play a role here. It's nice though if they will do that.

As long as the company supports them during the early weeks, that's fine. The salary and additional bonus should be well enough to cover at least a month. But if no support made then that's the time they can shout to the company and even sue them.

The government itself must play a role here to provide assistance to all, not the owners themselves. And I know these companies and sectors are also contributing to donations.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: chaser15 on April 10, 2020, 10:06:24 PM
It's their responsibility to give them a salary even if the business is closed. They should be prepared in times like this, and for sure they have an emergency fund to provide their employees. It's only a simple sacrifice for the employees who have been working for them every day.

This is wrong. The salary should just be compensated based on working days. Owners can make an advanced payment but not for every month. That's already a good move. But if ever the company didn't pay from the start, that's another story.

It's not a simple sacrifice. It's easy to say they are rich but that is just numbers. If they will sustain all worker's salaries while no business until everything back on track, that will be destruction and the end of Vegas business. If the business will end, no more employment needed, no jobs, no works once the situation back to normal. Imagine the number of workers that needed to be paid. Vegas has thousands of workers.

This kind of problem should be addressed to the government.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Becky666 on April 10, 2020, 10:07:02 PM
Absolutely, not only the casinos workers deserve this type if assistance as the lockdown is generally affecting the entire world and not selecting some career than others. We all known what the take a home of the gambling house is and they can afford the assistance of helping  their workers. Although, many of these gambling platforms or companies are only after their own gains than to help their workers, if they grant or give their staff a helping hand, this will be the best for anyone in the community to read about. Hope they equally remember we the gamblers who ensure they never run out of their businesses  :P


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: bisdak40 on April 10, 2020, 10:19:41 PM
~snip~
It's their responsibility to give them a salary even if the business is closed. They should be prepared in times like this, and for sure they have an emergency fund to provide their employees. It's only a simple sacrifice for the employees who have been working for them every day.

This crisis have hit hard not only those people working in the casinos but i think in every sector of the society. If we all rely on the government i think i will fail, employers should play a big role here in helping their employees to ease the load of the government. After all, those individuals that received help from their employers were also responsible for their success, just a small payback for them.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: seleme on April 10, 2020, 10:32:09 PM
Unpopular opinion here... I don't think the casinos should pay the employees during the shutdown.

Casinos pay employees to work, if they're not working why should they get paid? Casinos and most jobs don't care about the livelihoods of their employers, their main purpose is obviously to make money. They clearly won't be making money if they're not even open. Sure, they could continue paying their employees now and go bankrupt off the back of it. Or they could just not pay them and let the government step up to protect its tax payers.

An employer-employee relationship shouldn't mean you should suddenly start paying people to do nothing when shit hits the fan. If these people don't have their own savings then that's on them.
From the business ethics perspective, it is not acceptable to just getting rid of the loyal employees during the long lockdown. The unemployment rate climbed to the high levels since the 2008 worldwide financial crisis and everyone knows what kind of consequences will be actual in the near future. I don't know how big portion of the tax is fulfilled with the paid taxes of casinos but turnover of the casino has to be enough for giving bonuses as a part of salary to loyal employees.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: carlfebz2 on April 10, 2020, 10:44:13 PM
~snip~
It's their responsibility to give them a salary even if the business is closed. They should be prepared in times like this, and for sure they have an emergency fund to provide their employees. It's only a simple sacrifice for the employees who have been working for them every day.

This crisis have hit hard not only those people working in the casinos but i think in every sector of the society. If we all rely on the government i think i will fail, employers should play a big role here in helping their employees to ease the load of the government. After all, those individuals that received help from their employers were also responsible for their success, just a small payback for them.
Its not mandatory but just to think on humanitarian act then as a casino owner you would surely do such thing.You know that these people are part of your success and it isnt really that bad to think of them or giving out some help in times of crisis but well this would vary or depend on what kind of person for those people who do own those casinos.Not all would have the same mindset and feelings into other people.
If they would help they would help if  not then they would just dont care on whats happening around as long they do have their own money for themselves.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Twinkledoe on April 10, 2020, 11:19:23 PM
But considering that casino owners are rich and they can very well afford to provide at least the monthly wage of their workers to at least survive this pandemic. These owners don't have to do charity work outside, just providing the basic salary of their workers would be more than enough. Ok they have losses, but before this pandemic happens, they are earning millions of dollars per day and how much is the salary of their workers? I really hope they will consider the welfare of their employees. Once this is over, those workers might think twice if they want to go back to their old jobs.

Do you mean these rich owners should support their employers a lifetime or while shutdown? What if the lockdown lasted for about a year? They aren't obliged to do it since in the first place all are affected. Being them as rich doesn't play a role here. It's nice though if they will do that.

As long as the company supports them during the early weeks, that's fine. The salary and additional bonus should be well enough to cover at least a month. But if no support made then that's the time they can shout to the company and even sue them.

The government itself must play a role here to provide assistance to all, not the owners themselves. And I know these companies and sectors are also contributing to donations.

Not a lifetime of course. At least maybe couple of months so as to keep them afloat for the moment while waiting for other's assistance like from the government. They should look into the real conditions of their employees. Not only in casinos but same with other businesses as well. They are also losing, but their employees are more vulnerable as they will have nowhere to turn to just to buy food on their table. I know someone here in my country, he has a resto business but what he did, whatever was left (stocks) in his resto, cooked it all and gave to all those that really needed it. And bought groceries for his employees during lockdown. I know this kind of person is rare, but considering that he is not really rich made me think that even in his own ways, he finds ways to help and that is if you really want to.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: btc_angela on April 10, 2020, 11:20:59 PM
It's really up to the employers to take responsibility and pay their employees in this lockdown, but they can only help as much as they can. So yes, a 2 week or month salary is good in my opinion. They are also losing big money when the closure of their casinos. So this whole Covid-19 has really fuck up everyone around us and it is going to be survival for everyone. Even governments are doing their best to help their people around the world but they can't go on giving money to everyone. This situation really a eye opener for us, better save for rainy days.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Sanitough on April 10, 2020, 11:38:35 PM
I guess the government should help the people more as they never lose money, they just collect tax from the people and they don't invest on it.

The company invest a lot, so if employees loss their job it's expected that the company is struggling that's why they can't blame each other.
If the casinos here enough buffer for this kind of situation, they can give but it is their own will, they will not be force here as they are not breaking any law, demanding is quite harsh of what employees should do, they just have to request on it, now, it could be granted or not by their employers.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: xSkylarx on April 10, 2020, 11:47:00 PM
This pandemic showed the true intentions and concern of a lot of businesses among their employees. Here in our country there are a few businesses and companies who had paid their employees with a month's worth of salary even without their employees going to work. Sadly, these casinos are earning a lot of money through their employees' effort failed to extend their help during the pandemic.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: lienfaye on April 11, 2020, 12:04:36 AM
Many employers are not paying their employees not just the casino. They have this rule for not paying because their company/business were close and I think its their right to refuse. However during this time we can see the employers who have real concern to its people by continue giving salary despite of stop production, especially everyone is affected of the lockdown. In our company no work, no pay as well and we cant do anything about it. We are just counting in our savings and the relief goods from the government.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: KnightElite on April 11, 2020, 12:31:31 AM
This pandemic showed the true intentions and concern of a lot of businesses among their employees. Here in our country there are a few businesses and companies who had paid their employees with a month's worth of salary even without their employees going to work. Sadly, these casinos are earning a lot of money through their employees' effort failed to extend their help during the pandemic.
There are some casino company who is showing there true color during this time of pandemic. There are many reports that their employees doesn't receive payments and assistance while the lockdown is still occurring. It is really sad because most of them have no more any other sources of food and money in order to survive. The management of casinos should also focus on helping their workers.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: chaser15 on April 11, 2020, 01:07:13 AM
There are some casino company who is showing there true color during this time of pandemic. There are many reports that their employees doesn't receive payments and assistance while the lockdown is still occurring. It is really sad because most of them have no more any other sources of food and money in order to survive. The management of casinos should also focus on helping their workers.

As I said above, that's not a mandatory thing to do by a company. If they paid their workers right during the covered days, the follow-up salary during the lockdown is not mandatory to give. It's on a company's own will to provide more and based on the article shared by OP, I think they already paid for it but the workers demanding that the salary should continue even lockdown which is not easy even you say they are rich. There are thousands of workers, we are not talking about less than 100 workers here.

I think companies already lend a hand and extended it to their workers but to the point, they will support all workers until the lockdown end, that's a no brainer since as I point also above, this will lead into the business crash which is far worst as it will decrease employment once the situation back to normal.

These workers, instead of requesting a hard demand for the company should knock the doors of the government. The government is the key body to help people. Also try to save money as much as possible. We have to expect that in this crisis, we should help ourselves and our usual lifestyle back then will not be the same including what food we eat.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Darker45 on April 11, 2020, 02:15:48 AM
Unpopular opinion here... I don't think the casinos should pay the employees during the shutdown.

Casinos pay employees to work, if they're not working why should they get paid? Casinos and most jobs don't care about the livelihoods of their employers, their main purpose is obviously to make money. They clearly won't be making money if they're not even open. Sure, they could continue paying their employees now and go bankrupt off the back of it. Or they could just not pay them and let the government step up to protect its tax payers.

An employer-employee relationship shouldn't mean you should suddenly start paying people to do nothing when shit hits the fan. If these people don't have their own savings then that's on them.

If we are to be practical about it, the casinos don't have to pay their workers, not only because they are not working but also, and more importantly, because the business has no revenue to support that. They have the option to pay them even if they are not working, but if that would spell bankruptcy to their business, that would be much worse. Their workers will have nothing to go back to after this pandemic.

The government's timely intervention is what is necessary during this time. Pending such assistance, the workers will have to start spending what they have kept for the rainy days. 


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: shoreno on April 11, 2020, 02:17:11 AM
This pandemic showed the true intentions and concern of a lot of businesses among their employees. Here in our country there are a few businesses and companies who had paid their employees with a month's worth of salary even without their employees going to work. Sadly, these casinos are earning a lot of money through their employees' effort failed to extend their help during the pandemic.
There are some casino company who is showing there true color during this time of pandemic. There are many reports that their employees doesn't receive payments and assistance while the lockdown is still occurring. It is really sad because most of them have no more any other sources of food and money in order to survive. The management of casinos should also focus on helping their workers.

not all casino are earning good and also offline casinos and gambling places are the one that is totally affected with it . so dont put all the blame on them guys  . only online casinos are now earning good so far so obviously these are the ones that provide donations for thier workers  but i forgot that its online anyway , so workers can still safely work from thier own home except to those who need to report for the casinos actual offices to do paper works and stuff like that that isnt possible to do online


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: kayvie on April 11, 2020, 02:30:57 AM
This pandemic showed the true intentions and concern of a lot of businesses among their employees. Here in our country there are a few businesses and companies who had paid their employees with a month's worth of salary even without their employees going to work. Sadly, these casinos are earning a lot of money through their employees' effort failed to extend their help during the pandemic.
There are some casino company who is showing there true color during this time of pandemic. There are many reports that their employees doesn't receive payments and assistance while the lockdown is still occurring. It is really sad because most of them have no more any other sources of food and money in order to survive. The management of casinos should also focus on helping their workers.

not all casino are earning good and also offline casinos and gambling places are the one that is totally affected with it . so dont put all the blame on them guys  . only online casinos are now earning good so far so obviously these are the ones that provide donations for thier workers  but i forgot that its online anyway , so workers can still safely work from thier own home except to those who need to report for the casinos actual offices to do paper works and stuff like that that isnt possible to do online
But even if you say that gambling houses are totally affected by this lockdown, they should still extend their hands to their employees. It is their responsibility as employers to show their concern and willingness to help their employees that is working hard everyday for their business.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: maydna on April 11, 2020, 05:47:08 AM
Probably, the casino can pay the salary for 50% for their employee every month. But, I think that it will be difficult for the casino itself because all businesses and workers cannot work as usual, and the casino cannot getting revenue. The casino depends on how many gamblers spend their money in their places. So if their place shut down, they will not get any money at all. It's dilemmatic here, the casino wants to pay their workers, but they don't have revenue, the employee cannot buy their daily needs for living. I think that will depend on the casino policy if they really concern with their employee, they should take care of them, at least, they can support the daily needs to their employee.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Maslate on April 11, 2020, 06:07:13 AM
I think that will depend on the casino policy if they really concern with their employee, they should take care of them, at least, they can support the daily needs to their employee.
Definitely it depends on the policy, but if the casinos can't provide what the employees need, maybe they can extend some help through loan, that way it will be able to help their employees at this situation and they'll get back that loan once the business resume its operation.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: maydna on April 11, 2020, 06:37:44 AM
I think that will depend on the casino policy if they really concern with their employee, they should take care of them, at least, they can support the daily needs to their employee.
Definitely it depends on the policy, but if the casinos can't provide what the employees need, maybe they can extend some help through loan, that way it will be able to help their employees at this situation and they'll get back that loan once the business resume its operation.

I don't think to give them loan will help and solve the problem because they don't know when the pandemic will over so they can come back to work again if this pandemic stays for a long time, how they can pay the debt while they cannot go out to search for a new job. Giving a loan can be an alternative solution, but that doesn't solve the problem in the long term. As I said before, these situations are difficult for both the casino and the employee, but we can hope that there will be a win-win solution for both. The employee cannot expect the casino to guarantee or support for their lives if the casino doesn't have money to give to them.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Reatim on April 11, 2020, 06:48:46 AM
This is what i Hate to this situation that These gambling owners are becomes more richer because of their employee brings success to their business but when people needs them most?denial is what they got.

Yeah businesses are not oblige to help their employee because they should have responsible for their own lives but having this pandemic?consideration must be in place .

or else these casinos must not be followed and use by people because of their Bad attitude towards their people.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Ailurophile on April 11, 2020, 08:28:38 AM

This only concludes how important to have a savings so we can prepare to this kind of scenario and for the workers, I cannot blame them if they are asking their employers for a salary because they need money right now in order to buy food and etc. just to survive in this type of situation.

In our country, the government are asking for employers to pay their employee a one month salary during the lock down and this is to help the employee in surviving the lock down. If the government in Las Vegas will do the same then it can surely help the employee to get their salary but if not the employee will have to wait for their employers whether they are kind enough to give some money to their affected employee.
Yes but not everyone could do it since there are some people who only have enough salary to sustain their livings to pay their bills and to put food on their table.
But there are some who couldn't do it even save a small amount from their salary for emergency purpose or for times like this.
We couldn't blame them just think about what they have done in order to survive before the crisis occur there are some who are already having a hard time managing their income or only make enough to live their life.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: bitcoin-shark on April 11, 2020, 08:30:50 AM
It is certainly not the fault of the workers in the sector if the casinos have had to close given the current situation, in my opinion all the casinos should support their employees economically in these times of crisis I do not think given their usual high earnings that would lose much and then when they reopen it is better to have the same experienced employees who know how it works...


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Kemarit on April 11, 2020, 09:24:04 AM
"We often think about gambling businesses having no income"

- I think this is wrong though, gambling business is a big income business and even though they've closest their casino, they have a lot of money at their disposal. And they could compensate their employees, whether it is a regular paying employee or not. They owe their success to those hard working guys and they should return this big favor to all the people around them. They can definitely cover all the lost they have incurred in this lock down very easily, once everything settles down.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: peter0425 on April 11, 2020, 09:24:13 AM
They need to be helping now but we cannot force them.

i believe that US government is helping also right?so lets stay safe and let us not blame anyone about this because this is a Virus and no one knows what will happen next time.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: BChydro on April 11, 2020, 09:38:34 AM
Although it's awful that some successful casino owners and management forget to protect and help their employees who helped them to become successful, some casino owners were able to send help and give their employees the salary they need. Perhaps they don't care about their employees' financial struggle because they have a lot of money, and they can survive the whole lockdown with that money.
If the casino is able to provide the salary then it is well and good asking them to take care of their financial struggles is a tough ask, the lock down and the virus spread will lead to a financial crisis and that will affect their business and these casino owners have to be prepared for those situation too.

It's their responsibility to give them a salary even if the business is closed. They should be prepared in times like this, and for sure they have an emergency fund to provide their employees. It's only a simple sacrifice for the employees who have been working for them every day.
 
No one expected a complete lock down in the wildest dreams to be prepared for a situation like this and hence you cannot blame anyone for this situation. The government will come up with a resolution by extending their loan and providing essential products.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Wexnident on April 11, 2020, 09:45:14 AM
I won't actually blame the casinos even if they were unable to pay the workers that are currently asking for assistance. It isn't like the casino business is the only one having difficulties and tbh, this requires proper fund management from the person themselves. If the casino helps them, then everyone's happy tbh. But if the casino doesn't, I doubt they have the right to actually complain about it. After all, business is business. You work for me and I pay for you, and I believe most contracts uphold this basic concept. It isn't their responsibility, but, it can be their right to freely give them. It isn't like how rich people are required to help poor people, but rather the government is required to prevent people from being poor right? And it's also up to the government to prevent the rich from taking advantage of their riches. Though sadly, responsibility is a difficult thing to uphold, especially when in the government.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Nadziratel on April 11, 2020, 09:55:50 AM
This problem is a major problem worldwide. It is a big problem for the people who cannot work at the moment, especially in countries with an underdeveloped economy. While countries with developing economies constantly announce aid packages for people with this situation; those with a poor economy are experiencing difficulties in this regard.

In every country, regardless of the field in which it works, all the basic needs of everyone whose workplaces have been closed must be met. Otherwise, huge problems can be seen. Many workplaces have been closed in my country as well, and no significant assistance has been made to date.

As our friend in this topic mentioned, workers working at casinos need to be paid as much as they can meet their basic needs. I think the UN should make a statement on this issue.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Latviand on April 11, 2020, 10:14:08 AM
I think this is possible because in our country all of the workers has been given an assitance by the Department of Labor and Employment and some company requires to give assistance to their workers as well, it is the right thing to do because they are all deserve that help with all their hardworks and efforts for the company. A simple help with their boss with this current situation where crisis is still affecting so many lives is very appreciative, this would make them more loyal working on your company.

Humanity restored, this is essential most especially to those workers who have family to feed for. It is not easy to earn money, plus this lockdown prohibit workers to do their and have nothing but no salary. The company should owe some money to their workers to increase their loyalty to the company and safety inside their house. That's right, a simple help will make them fight and survive this quarantine, most especially, we have no idea when this crisis will end. The company should also worry about its worker's health and state that's why it is very essential to do your work passionately.

Casino gambling is very profitable so the assistance that they are going to give to ther employee is just a simple thing for them. They earn so much money in casino so I think they will help their workers.

I'm pretty sure that if the company is big enough, it will not have a hard time to give money to its workers. They will not have a second thought if they will do that with their own humility to give people what they need in this kind of crisis. Helping other people is essential as they will appreciate it after they reflect on the help that they have received.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: AniviaBtc on April 11, 2020, 10:19:37 AM
But considering that casino owners are rich and they can very well afford to provide at least the monthly wage of their workers to at least survive this pandemic. These owners don't have to do charity work outside, just providing the basic salary of their workers would be more than enough. Ok they have losses, but before this pandemic happens, they are earning millions of dollars per day and how much is the salary of their workers? I really hope they will consider the welfare of their employees. Once this is over, those workers might think twice if they want to go back to their old jobs.

Do you mean these rich owners should support their employers a lifetime or while shutdown? What if the lockdown lasted for about a year? They aren't obliged to do it since in the first place all are affected. Being them as rich doesn't play a role here. It's nice though if they will do that.

As long as the company supports them during the early weeks, that's fine. The salary and additional bonus should be well enough to cover at least a month. But if no support made then that's the time they can shout to the company and even sue them.

The government itself must play a role here to provide assistance to all, not the owners themselves. And I know these companies and sectors are also contributing to donations.

Yes, that's a fact, it is the responsibility of the government to give the community the necessities they should've in order to survive the quarantine. Most especially, that the cure or vaccine is not that easy to discover, so we have no idea when this pandemic will end. There are a lot of families that are starving because of the virus, they can't go to work and earn their salary. Luckily, there are some big companies who help its workers to have some funds that is enough for a short period of time. Although it is not enough, we should be grateful that there are some companies who are doing their best just to help its workers to have something to feed for their family. The crucial thing here is that the government should allocate some funds for its people so that it lessen the suffering of those who really need some assistance and support.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Tipstar on April 11, 2020, 10:48:06 AM
It's not just casino, almost all of the businesses are hurt from this unexpected crisis. And every of them are demanding some sort of stimulus package and most of nations have provided some form of stimulus according to their capacity. Demanding a separate pay for work they have not done would bring more problems than solutions. The first priority at the moment is to live. Money can be earned at a later date if you survive.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: plvbob0070 on April 11, 2020, 11:19:02 AM
Governments have bailout plans and other related economic packets for helping the threatened sectors of the economy. The latest global lockdown has affected the casino workers too and the situation becomes worse every day of the quarantine. Gamblers have alternative choices such as playing online games but the conditions are not fair for casino employees.

We are worried about how can we gamble in times like this. We have our alternatives like online gambling, but casino workers don't. For sure the government is doing its part, but companies also have their parts. It's to help their workers.

Unpopular opinion here... I don't think the casinos should pay the employees during the shutdown.

Casinos pay employees to work, if they're not working why should they get paid? Casinos and most jobs don't care about the livelihoods of their employers, their main purpose is obviously to make money. They clearly won't be making money if they're not even open. Sure, they could continue paying their employees now and go bankrupt off the back of it. Or they could just not pay them and let the government step up to protect its tax payers.

An employer-employee relationship shouldn't mean you should suddenly start paying people to do nothing when shit hits the fan. If these people don't have their own savings then that's on them.

But if they don't show care to their employees, no workers will be loyal to them. If they only want an employer-employee relationship, workers won't bother to stay long in that kind of business. They also need to feel the care of their company in an emergency situation. Business is nothing if it's not for their workers. They should appreciate their work.


I'm not saying that they should pay them every month. But a simple consideration for their workers. There are paid leaves, and they can deduct their leaves so that workers can still have their salary in the meantime. The government should be taking action to help their people, but companies also have their roles for their workers.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Bezobraznike on April 11, 2020, 11:48:14 AM
Unpopular opinion here... I don't think the casinos should pay the employees during the shutdown.

Casinos pay employees to work, if they're not working why should they get paid? Casinos and most jobs don't care about the livelihoods of their employers, their main purpose is obviously to make money. They clearly won't be making money if they're not even open. Sure, they could continue paying their employees now and go bankrupt off the back of it. Or they could just not pay them and let the government step up to protect its tax payers.

An employer-employee relationship shouldn't mean you should suddenly start paying people to do nothing when shit hits the fan. If these people don't have their own savings then that's on them.

But if they don't show care to their employees, no workers will be local to them. If they only want an employer-employee relationship, workers won't bother to stay long in that kind of business. They also need to feel the care of their company in an emergency situation. Business is nothing if it's not for their workers. They should appreciate their work.

   Plvbob0070 I totally agree with you!!! My younger sister works in casino, she is on holiday more than a month,
casino where she works is closed when pandemic started. Owner of casino is still pays them, and told them to
not worry about paycheck and their jobs, when they start working again owners expect all of them to come back
and work! That is fair! Now in time of crisis is not very nice when owners show irresponsibility towards their workers.
If someone throw me on the street now, I wouldn't go back there! People would find better job they can have respect, in good and bad times.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: arwin100 on April 11, 2020, 12:08:33 PM
Unpopular opinion here... I don't think the casinos should pay the employees during the shutdown.

Casinos pay employees to work, if they're not working why should they get paid? Casinos and most jobs don't care about the livelihoods of their employers, their main purpose is obviously to make money. They clearly won't be making money if they're not even open. Sure, they could continue paying their employees now and go bankrupt off the back of it. Or they could just not pay them and let the government step up to protect its tax payers.

An employer-employee relationship shouldn't mean you should suddenly start paying people to do nothing when shit hits the fan. If these people don't have their own savings then that's on them.

But if they don't show care to their employees, no workers will be local to them. If they only want an employer-employee relationship, workers won't bother to stay long in that kind of business. They also need to feel the care of their company in an emergency situation. Business is nothing if it's not for their workers. They should appreciate their work.

   Plvbob0070 I totally agree with you!!! My younger sister works in casino, she is on holiday more than a month,
casino where she works is closed when pandemic started. Owner of casino is still pays them, and told them to
not worry about paycheck and their jobs, when they start working again owners expect all of them to come back
and work! That is fair! Now in time of crisis is not very nice when owners show irresponsibility towards their workers.
If someone throw me on the street now, I wouldn't go back there! People would find better job they can have respect, in good and bad times.

It's fair in the time of crisis but although employers is not oblige to pay their employers since on the other hand they are affected to but in the name of humanity for sure they can cover since they are rich and can able to support the one who make them rich in time of crisis and luckily your sister got a good employer since the other are struggling since they didn't get any support just what plvbob given on his thread.



Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: yazher on April 11, 2020, 12:22:17 PM
Of course, they need to have some sort of support from their company too, they were the one who was working all this time to make them rich. It does make sense if they asking some beneficiaries from their respective companies. because they are their people they need to help them. Right now all necessary means if legal should be done because if we don't do such act, we won't die on the virus, we die on hunger.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: rodskee on April 11, 2020, 12:26:49 PM
Just like what is happening the whole world?every cities now has their own employees asking for help this becomes sensational because they are from Biggest casinos in the world so attention has been there.
But what are the difference between those casino employees and others?there is none lol and this is the reality now.
here in my City there are also many people crying for Help but no one is listening.
but i am still hoping that casino owners will Hear their sentiments .


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Janation on April 11, 2020, 12:58:15 PM
Although it's awful that some successful casino owners and management forget to protect and help their employees who helped them to become successful, some casino owners were able to send help and give their employees the salary they need. Perhaps they don't care about their employees' financial struggle because they have a lot of money, and they can survive the whole lockdown with that money.

It's their responsibility to give them a salary even if the business is closed. They should be prepared in times like this, and for sure they have an emergency fund to provide their employees. It's only a simple sacrifice for the employees who have been working for them every day.

This is really sad.

In our country, the president is wanting their employers to pay their employees despite them not working for weeks because of the ECQ. I think it is also a consideration in this quarantine for these people that are providing to their families. I agree that it is their responsibility as their employers and they are not doing that responsibility.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Serious475 on April 11, 2020, 03:28:16 PM
Casinos and other non-essential businesses were temporarily closed due to the virus spreading the word. We often think about gambling businesses having no income, and the decrease of the stock market. But we're forgetting about their employees who get no job and salary in the current situation.

Casino workers in Las Vegas showed their disappointment and anger towards their employers who failed to help and provide them what they need. Famous Las Vegas Strip of glitzy hotels and casino is closed due to lockdown, and thousands of their employees were left with no work and income. However, some casinos were able to support their workers and offered them a two-week salary, others gave four, while some gave nothing.

Quote
"This is not going to sustain us — we need to feed our families, we need to put food on the table, we have bills mounting up,” said Debra Jeffries, a cocktail waitress for four decades at a major Strip casino.

Las Vegas has more than 40 million visitors every year and it is known for casinos. According to the American Gaming Association, if all casinos in the US will continue to be closed until mid-May, including nearby restaurants and bars, $43.5 billion in economic activity will lose.


The treasurer-secretary of the giant Las Vegas-based Culinary Union, Geoconda Arguello-Kline called giant operating casinos to do their responsibility in the community.

Quote
“We feel the casino industry right now, they left their workers alone… it’s a very painful situation,” said Arguello-Kline.




Although it's awful that some successful casino owners and management forget to protect and help their employees who helped them to become successful, some casino owners were able to send help and give their employees the salary they need. Perhaps they don't care about their employees' financial struggle because they have a lot of money, and they can survive the whole lockdown with that money.

It's their responsibility to give them a salary even if the business is closed. They should be prepared in times like this, and for sure they have an emergency fund to provide their employees. It's only a simple sacrifice for the employees who have been working for them every day.

Source:
Code:
https://news.mb.com.ph/2020/04/10/las-vegas-casino-workers-abandoned-in-ghost-town/



I think they can pay casino workers in advance because casino workers doesn't have any income aside frok casino and they have no income totally since all of the casinos are offline and closed. I hope their government can help them because they need really need it. Maybe they can work from their home by servicing online gambling and they can also play. I hope they can get a way to survive the shutdown.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Chrystora123 on April 11, 2020, 05:20:27 PM
"We often think about gambling businesses having no income"

- I think this is wrong though, gambling business is a big income business and even though they've closest their casino, they have a lot of money at their disposal. And they could compensate their employees, whether it is a regular paying employee or not. They owe their success to those hard working guys and they should return this big favor to all the people around them. They can definitely cover all the lost they have incurred in this lock down very easily, once everything settles down.
I agree with you that the gambling business is a high-income business, but one's wealth has its limits, especially the owner of the gambling business.. just imagine if a casino owner who has one hundred employees with an average salary of $ 1000 / month then the casino owner must spend is $ 100,000/ month during this "PANDEMIC", researchers have confirmed that they cannot be sure when this PANDEMIC ends..

IMO.. reducing employee salaries from 50% - 70% is the best decision that should be made by all business people (not just gambling entrepreneurs) during this "PANDEMIC" period..


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: KTChampions on April 11, 2020, 05:34:16 PM
A terrible situation (as in many other industries). I am happy for those whom the state helps with money - for example, this is not the case in my country, so my situation is more complicated  :-\
Interestingly, in connection with the closure of offline casinos, has the number of online players increased? Or did people’s lack of income play a role here?


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: joshy23 on April 11, 2020, 05:36:06 PM
Of course, they need to have some sort of support from their company too, they were the one who was working all this time to make them rich. It does make sense if they asking some beneficiaries from their respective companies. because they are their people they need to help them. Right now all necessary means if legal should be done because if we don't do such act, we won't die on the virus, we die on hunger.
They need comassions from their respective employers, this people serve the company they are not aware and unprepared with how things turned
with this pandemic virus, they will appreciate all the help that their companies will provide to them. Casino owners have reserve money surely they
can afford to release such amount to help their employees to survive from this crisis.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: FIFA worldcup on April 11, 2020, 05:39:16 PM
A terrible situation (as in many other industries). I am happy for those whom the state helps with money - for example, this is not the case in my country, so my situation is more complicated  :-\
Interestingly, in connection with the closure of offline casinos, has the number of online players increased? Or did people’s lack of income play a role here?

Every individual is facing different situation these days. Some are even getting paid even if they are not working but their company agrees to pay them. Some are being fired and some are just not being paid for the time they had not worked. This is the situation of those who are mostly on the jobs. Businessmen have different issues like people not buying services or product and this includes lack of people in online gambling at the present moment because people do not have extra funds to spend on gambling.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Ryker1 on April 11, 2020, 05:45:34 PM
Of course, they need to have some sort of support from their company too, they were the one who was working all this time to make them rich. It does make sense if they asking some beneficiaries from their respective companies. because they are their people they need to help them. Right now all necessary means if legal should be done because if we don't do such act, we won't die on the virus, we die on hunger.
They need comassions from their respective employers, this people serve the company they are not aware and unprepared with how things turned
with this pandemic virus, they will appreciate all the help that their companies will provide to them. Casino owners have reserve money surely they
can afford to release such amount to help their employees to survive from this crisis.
Well, all of you were right. But it depends on the department of labor and employment orders because that is not mandatory for the company to give salary to their employee. But once the department of labor and employment makes a statement that employer should help their workers during their situation that there is calamity disaster come, for sure they will do.
Indeed, if you are a company owner, you can think that it is good to pay back your employee's hard work just for your own benefits before.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: DeadCoin on April 11, 2020, 05:51:47 PM
Workers have a right to ask a help from their employer but I think not just a salary. And that is correct, that is not mandatory to the gambling owner to give them because some of the company owners implement this rule, "No work, No pay". It is naturally now that all from in a business industry was totally down their revenue but it is always good if they will help their workers. There's nothing we can do if our employers did not give any help, our government must take action about this.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Genemind on April 11, 2020, 06:18:55 PM
Casinos and other non-essential businesses were temporarily closed due to the virus spreading the word. We often think about gambling businesses having no income, and the decrease of the stock market. But we're forgetting about their employees who get no job and salary in the current situation.

Casino workers in Las Vegas showed their disappointment and anger towards their employers who failed to help and provide them what they need. Famous Las Vegas Strip of glitzy hotels and casino is closed due to lockdown, and thousands of their employees were left with no work and income. However, some casinos were able to support their workers and offered them a two-week salary, others gave four, while some gave nothing.

Quote
"This is not going to sustain us — we need to feed our families, we need to put food on the table, we have bills mounting up,” said Debra Jeffries, a cocktail waitress for four decades at a major Strip casino.

Las Vegas has more than 40 million visitors every year and it is known for casinos. According to the American Gaming Association, if all casinos in the US will continue to be closed until mid-May, including nearby restaurants and bars, $43.5 billion in economic activity will lose.


The treasurer-secretary of the giant Las Vegas-based Culinary Union, Geoconda Arguello-Kline called giant operating casinos to do their responsibility in the community.

Quote
“We feel the casino industry right now, they left their workers alone… it’s a very painful situation,” said Arguello-Kline.




Although it's awful that some successful casino owners and management forget to protect and help their employees who helped them to become successful, some casino owners were able to send help and give their employees the salary they need. Perhaps they don't care about their employees' financial struggle because they have a lot of money, and they can survive the whole lockdown with that money.

It's their responsibility to give them a salary even if the business is closed. They should be prepared in times like this, and for sure they have an emergency fund to provide their employees. It's only a simple sacrifice for the employees who have been working for them every day.

Source:
Code:
https://news.mb.com.ph/2020/04/10/las-vegas-casino-workers-abandoned-in-ghost-town/





That's the struggle of most workers from most of the companies around the world that are affected by the pandemic crisis. This pandemic situation would make us realize that saving for the future is really necessary. This crisis is really unexpected so we can't blame workers who are asking for their companies' help. During this time, employees would know if their employers value them and have a concern for their situation. It's like a survival game for most of us so we can't rely everything on the government or even for companies who are also trying to save themselves from bankruptcy.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: South Park on April 11, 2020, 06:27:02 PM
Although it's awful that some successful casino owners and management forget to protect and help their employees who helped them to become successful, some casino owners were able to send help and give their employees the salary they need. Perhaps they don't care about their employees' financial struggle because they have a lot of money, and they can survive the whole lockdown with that money.

It's their responsibility to give them a salary even if the business is closed. They should be prepared in times like this, and for sure they have an emergency fund to provide their employees. It's only a simple sacrifice for the employees who have been working for them every day.
While I agree that businesses should be socially responsible and if they can they should support their employees which have been part of the reason for their success, at the same time we cannot put all the responsibility on the shoulders of those businesses, I have a lot of friends that are suffering in this crisis and they lost their jobs, but even if they earned a good amount of money over the years they have no savings they could use to sustain themselves despite the fact that is basic knowledge that you should have a few months worth of savings in the case you lose your job, as such people that have no savings are also responsible for the difficult situation they are in and should shoulder the responsibility as well.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: DoublerHunter on April 11, 2020, 06:33:35 PM
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This crisis is really unexpected so we can't blame workers who are asking for their companies' help. During this time, employees would know if their employers value them and have a concern for their situation. It's like a survival game for most of us so we can't rely everything on the government or even for companies who are also trying to save themselves from bankruptcy.
^ Definitely right, we need to survive at this moment. It is really sad to those people who did not have savings for any tragedies come in the future, just like what happened now, everyone was not ready and they don't have enough saving in order to survive without help from their employer or any help from the government. Nevertheless, I never heard government such a country affected by a coronavirus that never helps their citizen.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: aakashsangwan on April 11, 2020, 06:46:14 PM
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This crisis is really unexpected so we can't blame workers who are asking for their companies' help. During this time, employees would know if their employers value them and have a concern for their situation. It's like a survival game for most of us so we can't rely everything on the government or even for companies who are also trying to save themselves from bankruptcy.
^ Definitely right, we need to survive at this moment. It is really sad to those people who did not have savings for any tragedies come in the future, just like what happened now, everyone was not ready and they don't have enough saving in order to survive without help from their employer or any help from the government. Nevertheless, I never heard government such a country affected by a coronavirus that never helps their citizen.
Most of the people don't save for the hard times that can come at any time in the future, they tend to live from paycheck to paycheck and in the case of an international pandemic where every thing is shut down they don't have their jobs which are the only source of income for them. So the employer should always think about his employees rather than always making profit and he should give a month or two salary in advance to the employees for sake of these hard times.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Casdinyard on April 11, 2020, 07:15:32 PM
~snip~
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This crisis is really unexpected so we can't blame workers who are asking for their companies' help. During this time, employees would know if their employers value them and have a concern for their situation. It's like a survival game for most of us so we can't rely everything on the government or even for companies who are also trying to save themselves from bankruptcy.
^ Definitely right, we need to survive at this moment. It is really sad to those people who did not have savings for any tragedies come in the future, just like what happened now, everyone was not ready and they don't have enough saving in order to survive without help from their employer or any help from the government. Nevertheless, I never heard government such a country affected by a coronavirus that never helps their citizen.
Most of the people don't save for the hard times that can come at any time in the future, they tend to live from paycheck to paycheck and in the case of an international pandemic where every thing is shut down they don't have their jobs which are the only source of income for them. So the employer should always think about his employees rather than always making profit and he should give a month or two salary in advance to the employees for sake of these hard times.
You can't blame people for not getting ready for times like this, I know there are people who have a vice but each and every one of us carry a different kind of responsibility. So after this pandemic our government should focus on this matter just in case if it happen again, not focusing the national budget on something irrelevant like helicopters, jets, and warships. We need more schools and hospitals. This is when the companies are peeling their own skin for the employees to see it.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: romero121 on April 11, 2020, 07:20:23 PM
Gambling is a big network where billions get circulated. With the ongoing lockdown around the globe almost every business is shut. The information technology network seems to function with the work from home accessibility. Even the shops with basic essentials were very limited.

By this time everyone seems to experience the same difficulty. There is nothing different between the owners and the employees. However at this situation the owners should take responsibility to help the employees with the big earnings made in the past.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: dunfida on April 11, 2020, 08:38:11 PM
Workers have a right to ask a help from their employer but I think not just a salary. And that is correct, that is not mandatory to the gambling owner to give them because some of the company owners implement this rule, "No work, No pay". It is naturally now that all from in a business industry was totally down their revenue but it is always good if they will help their workers. There's nothing we can do if our employers did not give any help, our government must take action about this.
All help would really vary on gambling sites owner considertion which if they do have that kind heart to see on whats happening into its workers or even on global aspect
but lets stick to those people around the vicinity.It is indeed not a mandatory thing since when we do talk about salary then it do really pertains a pay for your work
since theres no work then theres no pay same as you said.It all depends if the owners would give out some little help but doesnt mean that it would be done
every now and then.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: pixie85 on April 11, 2020, 10:18:28 PM
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"This is not going to sustain us — we need to feed our families, we need to put food on the table, we have bills mounting up,” said Debra Jeffries, a cocktail waitress for four decades at a major Strip casino.

This reads like a joke.

How can they say that they have no money to feed their families?

Do they really have no savings? Maybe their loans are too big and they can't afford to keep paying up without a steady income. If that's so they should go to their banks and ask fo extensions first instead of demanding money from the employees that also don't get any revenue because of the virus.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: bisdak40 on April 11, 2020, 10:23:27 PM
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It's their responsibility to give them a salary even if the business is closed. They should be prepared in times like this, and for sure they have an emergency fund to provide their employees. It's only a simple sacrifice for the employees who have been working for them every day.

This crisis have hit hard not only those people working in the casinos but i think in every sector of the society. If we all rely on the government i think i will fail, employers should play a big role here in helping their employees to ease the load of the government. After all, those individuals that received help from their employers were also responsible for their success, just a small payback for them.
Its not mandatory but just to think on humanitarian act then as a casino owner you would surely do such thing.You know that these people are part of your success and it isnt really that bad to think of them or giving out some help in times of crisis but well this would vary or depend on what kind of person for those people who do own those casinos.Not all would have the same mindset and feelings into other people.
If they would help they would help if  not then they would just dont care on whats happening around as long they do have their own money for themselves.

Yeah, i think it's revelation time to casino owners/company owners on who really got the heart to help people in this time of crisis. I agree that it is not mandatory for them to help their employees but the act of helping employees this time would make those employees more loyal to the company and it's the opposite if would not extend some help.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Oceat on April 11, 2020, 11:03:17 PM
During this time of crisis you will know who's your true friend and who you should trust next time. I've seen a lot of people who suffered already due to the lockdown which is not helpful but they can't wait any longer to wait for someone to help since the help is not coming that's why they are forced to go out and find their own food.

It's not just the casino workers who suffered here because those who rely their basic needs through the money that they get from their work is now gone due to lockdown. The employer should help their people/employees to get the help that they want since the lockdown might going to extend if the situation is getting worse.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: maydna on April 12, 2020, 02:24:16 AM
During this time of crisis you will know who's your true friend and who you should trust next time. I've seen a lot of people who suffered already due to the lockdown which is not helpful but they can't wait any longer to wait for someone to help since the help is not coming that's why they are forced to go out and find their own food.

It's not just the casino workers who suffered here because those who rely their basic needs through the money that they get from their work is now gone due to lockdown. The employer should help their people/employees to get the help that they want since the lockdown might going to extend if the situation is getting worse.

I agree with this. I already saw some changing in the society which some people consider that what they need is important than the other people. For example, when they want to buy something, they want to get priority to get that as soon as possible, and those people forget that they are not the only one who wants those things. A human can change in the middle of the crisis like today, and that can make friend become enemy because of simple things.

That is happening not just in the casino because a few days ago, I made a call with my friend who lived in another city. I asked him about the conditions of his family, and he says that he still waits for the help from his office because his boss tells to all employee that the office can help them to fills their daily needs but the boss cannot do that for a long time. But the boss can pay all of the employees because the office is not making money. So my friend tries to search the other way so he can still fill his daily needs for just in case his boss stops the help.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: rodskee on April 12, 2020, 03:00:11 AM
Quote
"This is not going to sustain us — we need to feed our families, we need to put food on the table, we have bills mounting up,” said Debra Jeffries, a cocktail waitress for four decades at a major Strip casino.

This reads like a joke.

How can they say that they have no money to feed their families?

Do they really have no savings? Maybe their loans are too big and they can't afford to keep paying up without a steady income.

This is not a Joke mate ,this is reality because not all people in the world have savings and it is not they are spending a lot but this is because they have their own reason,sometimes it is because they have large family to feed(that in past they are capable but some problem occurred ) or sometimes they are just starting a normal life again as we know the economy is not friendly now and watching the life of Homeless in US?i can see that some issues is not really their problem.
i think having a loan extension is not the solution here instead people really need help because this is the very first time that crisis like this happens in our generation and the first from us so understandable that people now are helpless.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Yatsan on April 12, 2020, 03:26:44 AM
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"This is not going to sustain us — we need to feed our families, we need to put food on the table, we have bills mounting up,” said Debra Jeffries, a cocktail waitress for four decades at a major Strip casino.

This reads like a joke.

How can they say that they have no money to feed their families?

Do they really have no savings? Maybe their loans are too big and they can't afford to keep paying up without a steady income.

This is not a Joke mate ,this is reality because not all people in the world have savings and it is not they are spending a lot but this is because they have their own reason,sometimes it is because they have large family to feed(that in past they are capable but some problem occurred ) or sometimes they are just starting a normal life again as we know the economy is not friendly now and watching the life of Homeless in US?i can see that some issues is not really their problem.
i think having a loan extension is not the solution here instead people really need help because this is the very first time that crisis like this happens in our generation and the first from us so understandable that people now are helpless.
Not all people have savings, and there's a lot of situation to consider, and a lot of what if's. For example: they are the one that is doing the work to feed his/her family or, they have a loan to pay and just starting a new life. There's a lot of situation to be consider! This lock-down is affecting a lot of people including the workers so I think it's reasonable to pay them for a 1 month of salary to survive this crisis.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: btc78 on April 12, 2020, 05:55:40 AM
We have same sentiments of casino workers and our company because at first we thought work from home is in favor but after 2 weeks the company ended up and says there is no need for company to continue paying us as they have no income coming from this pandemic.

i Can feel these people and now seeking for support from the company and hope to find help from their bosses.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: aioc on April 12, 2020, 06:11:47 AM

Although it's awful that some successful casino owners and management forget to protect and help their employees who helped them to become successful, some casino owners were able to send help and give their employees the salary they need. Perhaps they don't care about their employees' financial struggle because they have a lot of money, and they can survive the whole lockdown with that money.

It's their responsibility to give them a salary even if the business is closed. They should be prepared in times like this, and for sure they have an emergency fund to provide their employees. It's only a simple sacrifice for the employees who have been working for them every day.



These are the people that helped them reach where they are now, it's cruel to leave or ignore this in these times of trouble, they should not only give them allowances or advance salaries for weeks but also help them until this pandemic is over because these are the same people who will them to get back on their feet when things are cleared up.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Oasisman on April 12, 2020, 06:40:56 AM
This is something that the local government of that certain state will be addressing. I mean we all know gambling businesses do have huge taxes to be paid, that literally contributes to the development of such city. Now, I guess this would be the perfect time for their government to help these employees who helped this kind of businesses to pay huge taxes. The same goes to the company owners to help these people who maintained their businesses. Helping one another in this time of crisis requires only common sense, not unless if this rich people are still greedy in this dire situation.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: GDragon on April 12, 2020, 07:31:44 AM
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"This is not going to sustain us — we need to feed our families, we need to put food on the table, we have bills mounting up,” said Debra Jeffries, a cocktail waitress for four decades at a major Strip casino.

This reads like a joke.

How can they say that they have no money to feed their families?

Do they really have no savings? Maybe their loans are too big and they can't afford to keep paying up without a steady income.

This is not a Joke mate ,this is reality because not all people in the world have savings and it is not they are spending a lot but this is because they have their own reason,sometimes it is because they have large family to feed(that in past they are capable but some problem occurred ) or sometimes they are just starting a normal life again as we know the economy is not friendly now and watching the life of Homeless in US?i can see that some issues is not really their problem.
i think having a loan extension is not the solution here instead people really need help because this is the very first time that crisis like this happens in our generation and the first from us so understandable that people now are helpless.

There are people who would always be in trouble after missing just 1 paycheck. Just 1. Believe that? It is somehow kind of normal in my country, we are living paycheck to paycheck and I agree a loan wouldn't be a solution and it will just double up the problem of the employee in the future.

Millionaire and billionaire owners are only the one enjoying a company's gain. The employee, who put so much work will always be unfairly compensated for it. I hope they will help their employees in this crisis, and just for once, stop being greedy.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: fortunecrypto on April 12, 2020, 07:50:25 AM
They have the right to ask for salary and support, most of them are employers for years they should have a union and a compensation agreement if something like this happen, here in our country our government is the one running the casinos, so every employers are compensated and supported from all their needs in times like this.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: onrise on April 12, 2020, 07:55:43 AM
They have the right to ask for salary and support, most of them are employers for years they should have a union and a compensation agreement if something like this happen, here in our country our government is the one running the casinos, so every employers are compensated and supported from all their needs in times like this.

I think many countries even have requested the business houses or businessman to not to cut the salary of their staff or employees for the lockdown period as they run their home based on the salty given and take care of the family . If they stop it. For many they won’t be able to survive as many has loaned or ill parents or medicine required etc especially in less developed countries . It’s really a bad situation for everyone at this time .


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: plvbob0070 on April 12, 2020, 08:29:02 AM
~snip
Yes but not everyone could do it since there are some people who only have enough salary to sustain their livings to pay their bills and to put food on their table.
But there are some who couldn't do it even save a small amount from their salary for emergency purpose or for times like this.
We couldn't blame them just think about what they have done in order to survive before the crisis occur there are some who are already having a hard time managing their income or only make enough to live their life.

Even if they will work hard every day if their work income is not sufficient to support all of their expenses for daily lives, it's hard to save money for an emergency. They can't think of saving for an emergency because their income is not enough for daily expenses. We can't really blame them that their income is not enough when the living expense in an economy is increasing, yet their income is not.

"We often think about gambling businesses having no income"

- I think this is wrong though, gambling business is a big income business and even though they've closest their casino, they have a lot of money at their disposal. And they could compensate their employees, whether it is a regular paying employee or not. They owe their success to those hard working guys and they should return this big favor to all the people around them. They can definitely cover all the lost they have incurred in this lock down very easily, once everything settles down.

During the closing time, they have no increase in revenue because they are not operating, but it does not mean they don't have money. Of course, they have, that's why they should also consider helping their employees.

They need to be helping now but we cannot force them.
i believe that US government is helping also right?so lets stay safe and let us not blame anyone about this because this is a Virus and no one knows what will happen next time.

We can't expect that the government can help each individual during the lockdown. Yes, America is a rich country, but to think that they also need to fund medical equipment and more, I don't think they can give help to everyone in need. A simple consideration of those big casino businesses is a big help.

I think they can pay casino workers in advance because casino workers doesn't have any income aside frok casino and they have no income totally since all of the casinos are offline and closed. I hope their government can help them because they need really need it. Maybe they can work from their home by servicing online gambling and they can also play. I hope they can get a way to survive the shutdown.

For me, the best solution they can do is not advance salary. If they will receive an advance payment, the following month, they won't receive anything. I think it's good to deduct their paid leaves like vacation and sick leave. Or, they can give them their other bonuses like half of their 13th-month pay in advance. Christmas bonuses in advance, but not their monthly salary.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Ucy on April 12, 2020, 09:09:39 AM
Aren't the casinos online too?
 Well, I hope the good/safe games could just continue by operating online without the bad ones. The employees would then work part time and accept smaller pay. Everyone needs to remember that this is a crisis period...We all need should be understanding and try and help one another to survive.
 I would even suggest using the small pay to grow your own foods/rare animals (in safe places ofcourse) and probably diversify into the essential businesses.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Pmalek on April 12, 2020, 09:18:22 AM
The casino and gambling industry is unfortunately one of those industries that suffer during this state of emergency. If their employers don't want to to pay them, this is where the government comes in. They are tax paying citizens just like everyone else and deserve equal treatment. Although the casino industry makes millions of dollars they are also not conducting business currently. Small-time casinos would go bankrupt if they continued paying salaries to their employees without making any revenue for months.   


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: LogitechMouse on April 12, 2020, 09:47:30 AM
Financial management.

This is the problem for the workers. They don't have any savings that can be used in times like this. They are either complacent enough and didn't thought about the savings or emergency funds or its just they don't know how to save money.

TBH, most of the people here in my country doesn't have any savings account or even just emergency funds. This just shows that they are not ready if a crisis like this will happen. Right now people who doesn't have any savings or emergency funds are the ones who are experiencing some difficulties right now. A work at home too will be important right now because even though you aren't working in the company, you can still earn because there are many jobs online already.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on April 12, 2020, 10:52:22 AM
This is something that only the employees can raise their concern or maybe they can get help from their local government,

In our country, the government itself requested the private businesses that include gambling houses to give the salary of their employees (salary, advance salary, bonus pay, allowance) to at least help them to survive during this shutdown. Fortunately, private businesses followed our local government's order/request to help employees that are affected.

This may be the solution for affected casino workers in Las Vegas or in any part of the world, whether they raise it to their employers or they get help from their local government.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: smyslov on April 12, 2020, 11:08:36 AM
Small-time casinos would go bankrupt if they continued paying salaries to their employees without making any revenue for months.   

That's true but they have insurance and savings because when they are still operational they are open 24/7, even if these are small-time casinos they are still making money, because gambling casinos are the surest way to make a profit, even here in our place a local betting game can make money for the operators of the game.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: dunfida on April 12, 2020, 12:55:53 PM
Financial management.

This is the problem for the workers. They don't have any savings that can be used in times like this. They are either complacent enough and didn't thought about the savings or emergency funds or its just they don't know how to save money.

TBH, most of the people here in my country doesn't have any savings account or even just emergency funds. This just shows that they are not ready if a crisis like this will happen. Right now people who doesn't have any savings or emergency funds are the ones who are experiencing some difficulties right now. A work at home too will be important right now because even though you aren't working in the company, you can still earn because there are many jobs online already.
Its a common thing but most people do fail to do so but there are circumstances that you cant really even save how hard you do try.
Not all does have sufficient salary for them to do so specially to those low amount earners and just only enough for their daily needs or living.
So we cant generalize that they havent consider on saving up money but i agree to your point that people should really be serious on saving
up for emergency purposes because no one can tell on what would happen in future years.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: ethereumhunter on April 12, 2020, 01:08:30 PM
Paying their employees will be the difficult thing that the casino can do right now in the middle of this pandemic. The government cannot do much as their citizens who don't work will almost all of them. It's tough situations, and everyone should understand, maybe the government will help people who really need, but I don't know how they can solve it as I cannot imagine. The small casino itself will not survive in this pandemic because they cannot make money, and how come they can pay their employees.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on April 12, 2020, 01:20:34 PM
Well.. there are several factors that should be considered here. First of all, many of those who own the casinos are billionaire themselves. I am talking about people such as Sheldon Adelson, Kunio Busujima, John Paulsen, James Packer, Lui Che Woo and even Donald Trump. These people can spend just 0.1% of their wealth and the casino workers can get their salaries for this period. Also, we should not overlook the fact that casinos pay some of the heaviest taxes on any of the commercial establishments. So the government has a duty to help them in bad times.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: BTCLiz on April 12, 2020, 01:34:45 PM
Casinos and other non-essential businesses were temporarily closed due to the virus spreading the word. We often think about gambling businesses having no income, and the decrease of the stock market. But we're forgetting about their employees who get no job and salary in the current situation.

Casino workers in Las Vegas showed their disappointment and anger towards their employers who failed to help and provide them what they need. Famous Las Vegas Strip of glitzy hotels and casino is closed due to lockdown, and thousands of their employees were left with no work and income. However, some casinos were able to support their workers and offered them a two-week salary, others gave four, while some gave nothing.

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"This is not going to sustain us — we need to feed our families, we need to put food on the table, we have bills mounting up,” said Debra Jeffries, a cocktail waitress for four decades at a major Strip casino.

Las Vegas has more than 40 million visitors every year and it is known for casinos. According to the American Gaming Association, if all casinos in the US will continue to be closed until mid-May, including nearby restaurants and bars, $43.5 billion in economic activity will lose.


The treasurer-secretary of the giant Las Vegas-based Culinary Union, Geoconda Arguello-Kline called giant operating casinos to do their responsibility in the community.

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“We feel the casino industry right now, they left their workers alone… it’s a very painful situation,” said Arguello-Kline.




Although it's awful that some successful casino owners and management forget to protect and help their employees who helped them to become successful, some casino owners were able to send help and give their employees the salary they need. Perhaps they don't care about their employees' financial struggle because they have a lot of money, and they can survive the whole lockdown with that money.

It's their responsibility to give them a salary even if the business is closed. They should be prepared in times like this, and for sure they have an emergency fund to provide their employees. It's only a simple sacrifice for the employees who have been working for them every day.

Source:
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https://news.mb.com.ph/2020/04/10/las-vegas-casino-workers-abandoned-in-ghost-town/



Imagine a situation where someone gets paid to kill other people. This person looses her job because she has to go to quarantine. Is this person eligible to receive help? Economically definetly not, because social security programs are equal to subsidies which make only sence if there are positive externalities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Externality


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: yayayo on April 12, 2020, 01:41:12 PM
That also depends on the extent to which a casino is a physical casino or online.
Online casinos should need more employees in these times, because many people are at home because of the virus and have more time to gamble.
Nominated casinos will have certain contracts so that staff can be (partly) paid.

ya.ya.yo!


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Quidat on April 12, 2020, 02:45:54 PM
That also depends on the extent to which a casino is a physical casino or online.
Online casinos should need more employees in these times, because many people are at home because of the virus and have more time to gamble.
Nominated casinos will have certain contracts so that staff can be (partly) paid.
It wouldnt really be that necessary come to think that staffs needed on an online casino wont really be that much if we do compare it
on physical ones thats why i dont see a reason for online casino owners on adding up more people to be included to the team,it would
just add up expenses on things which arent really that needed.

The thing here is that gambling association or industry specially to owners have some consideration on pooling up funds
for helping out to those who had been affected specially into their own workers.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: onrise on April 12, 2020, 02:55:14 PM
Aren't the casinos online too?
 Well, I hope the good/safe games could just continue by operating online without the bad ones. The employees would then work part time and accept smaller pay. Everyone needs to remember that this is a crisis period...We all need should be understanding and try and help one another to survive.
 I would even suggest using the small pay to grow your own foods/rare animals (in safe places ofcourse) and probably diversify into the essential businesses.


I think for people who just love to spend times in casinos would not enjoy in this online games as it’s altogether different fun . Only few who just are addictive or cannot stay without gambling may be doing online or rest would be just waiting for casinos to get open and situation gets normal so that they can gamble by visiting casinos .


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: swogerino on April 12, 2020, 04:13:12 PM
Casinos are some of the most lucrative businesses in the world and their profit is big enough to support their workers for the limited time they are closed because of the virus.

I think I am seeing the same situation where I live now with many businesses not paying their workers and taking profit of the situation.Very few businesses can’t really pay their workers.A lot of businesses can but they hide trying to take profit from this situation at least here where I live now in Albania.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: milewilda on April 12, 2020, 06:09:12 PM
Casinos are some of the most lucrative businesses in the world and their profit is big enough to support their workers for the limited time they are closed because of the virus.

I think I am seeing the same situation where I live now with many businesses not paying their workers and taking profit of the situation.Very few businesses can’t really pay their workers.A lot of businesses can but they hide trying to take profit from this situation at least here where I live now in Albania.
Okay lets take it for example that you're one of those casino owners or business out there.Can you really say to yourself that you would gonna support your workers in times like these?
For one time kind of help then its understandable but by means of support then you'll surely think twice.You arent making a business just to aide other people unless if you are that passionate on
helping others in need and doesnt mind on what would cost you but i doubt this kind of mindset or decisions if you are into their ground.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: bitgolden on April 12, 2020, 06:36:58 PM
Everyone should get their salary during this period, thats why there are so many people shouting to their governments to print money for now. I know it is a long term bad idea but in the short term we are talking about bankruptcy of everyone and people starving to death.

Just because you print enough money to pay for salaries doesn't mean we are suddenly going to be like Zimbabwe, that takes a lot more time plus a lot more political instability as well. Do not print more than needed, tell all companies who do not work right now that you will pay for salaries, ban every company from firing people right now, and print enough money to pay for salaries and that is not, and not a dime more, with that you will have the economy back to very strong when this ends.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Oceat on April 12, 2020, 08:56:01 PM
During this time of crisis you will know who's your true friend and who you should trust next time. I've seen a lot of people who suffered already due to the lockdown which is not helpful but they can't wait any longer to wait for someone to help since the help is not coming that's why they are forced to go out and find their own food.

It's not just the casino workers who suffered here because those who rely their basic needs through the money that they get from their work is now gone due to lockdown. The employer should help their people/employees to get the help that they want since the lockdown might going to extend if the situation is getting worse.

I agree with this. I already saw some changing in the society which some people consider that what they need is important than the other people. For example, when they want to buy something, they want to get priority to get that as soon as possible, and those people forget that they are not the only one who wants those things. A human can change in the middle of the crisis like today, and that can make friend become enemy because of simple things.

That is happening not just in the casino because a few days ago, I made a call with my friend who lived in another city. I asked him about the conditions of his family, and he says that he still waits for the help from his office because his boss tells to all employee that the office can help them to fills their daily needs but the boss cannot do that for a long time. But the boss can pay all of the employees because the office is not making money. So my friend tries to search the other way so he can still fill his daily needs for just in case his boss stops the help.
I don't know whose call is this but I think people should start planting vegetables in their backyard just in case they don't have money to buy foods. People should start to change their perspective if the lockdown may be extended they have to think in advance to find a better way to solve the problems just in case so that they don't starve to death in the future. We are all surprised by these events and that proves us that the government either is not yet ready for this kind scenario. What more if there's much more worst than this? Can the government be ready enough to prevent more losses in the future?


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Natalim on April 13, 2020, 12:38:35 PM
Everyone should get their salary during this period, thats why there are so many people shouting to their governments to print money for now. I know it is a long term bad idea but in the short term we are talking about bankruptcy of everyone and people starving to death.
To whom they will get? maybe from the government because they are the ones who have big reserves while the business are still struggling with big loses at this situation.

Just because you print enough money to pay for salaries doesn't mean we are suddenly going to be like Zimbabwe, that takes a lot more time plus a lot more political instability as well. Do not print more than needed, tell all companies who do not work right now that you will pay for salaries, ban every company from firing people right now, and print enough money to pay for salaries and that is not, and not a dime more, with that you will have the economy back to very strong when this ends.
I think they are printing not for salaries because when its considered salary you have to work for it.
They are printing money to give an aid to the people as they are ordered to stay at home and avoid working so the virus will not spread faster.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: maydna on April 14, 2020, 02:53:34 AM
~snip~
I don't know whose call is this but I think people should start planting vegetables in their backyard just in case they don't have money to buy foods. People should start to change their perspective if the lockdown may be extended they have to think in advance to find a better way to solve the problems just in case so that they don't starve to death in the future. We are all surprised by these events and that proves us that the government either is not yet ready for this kind scenario. What more if there's much more worst than this? Can the government be ready enough to prevent more losses in the future?

That is a great idea. That is for people who have a backyard in their home, but for people who don't have a backyard, perhaps, they can use the other media to planting vegetables. By having that vegetable, at least we can have our own sources to eat, and I guess that will be more healthy than we buy in the store because we know how to take care of that. I don't think the government can be ready if there is another worst like this, but well, probably, they can be prepared for themselves but not for their people. So yes, we need to be ready for ourselves and try to fill our needs and not to starve to death.

This pandemic makes people suffer. People don't have money, but people need food, but unfortunately, the store cannot serves all people from out there. It is sad.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: matchi2011 on April 14, 2020, 07:48:57 AM
~snip~
I don't know whose call is this but I think people should start planting vegetables in their backyard just in case they don't have money to buy foods. People should start to change their perspective if the lockdown may be extended they have to think in advance to find a better way to solve the problems just in case so that they don't starve to death in the future. We are all surprised by these events and that proves us that the government either is not yet ready for this kind scenario. What more if there's much more worst than this? Can the government be ready enough to prevent more losses in the future?

That is a great idea. That is for people who have a backyard in their home, but for people who don't have a backyard, perhaps, they can use the other media to planting vegetables. By having that vegetable, at least we can have our own sources to eat, and I guess that will be more healthy than we buy in the store because we know how to take care of that. I don't think the government can be ready if there is another worst like this, but well, probably, they can be prepared for themselves but not for their people. So yes, we need to be ready for ourselves and try to fill our needs and not to starve to death.

This pandemic makes people suffer. People don't have money, but people need food, but unfortunately, the store cannot serves all people from out there. It is sad.
In order to survive from this pandemic virus everyone needs to do something that will provide them food to eat, extending of this ongoing lockdown is very possible since there's no available vaccine yet for this virus, and not just those casino employee that will ask for assistance but more and more people will, as while time is passing by numbers of people that striving will keep adding from time to time.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Naida_BR on April 14, 2020, 08:02:51 AM
This is a topic that causes pain in most governments.
People who do not work see their income being cut during this period of lockdown and coronavirus. However, the bills are running and need to get paid.
It is normal that the workers are asking to get paid and I hope they will be.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: TheGreatPython on April 14, 2020, 08:06:34 AM
People who do not work see their income being cut during this period of lockdown and coronavirus. However, the bills are running and need to get paid.
It is normal that the workers are asking to get paid and I hope they will be.
This must be a pathetic situation for most people around the world; I'm not sure how people are going to manage for their living without getting proper income from their employers; at the same time we cannot blame employers because they are not having usual business is running so that they could pay their employees. This is not just a situation of casino industry but everywhere we are seeing similar situations and people are suffering due to lock down.

Other than praying and hoping about all these pandemic situations will come to an end very soon so that everything in this world will get restored as the early as possible, we are not having anything else to do. I made few donations for few industry based people through their authorities and I am not sure how long I will be in a position to donate :(.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: JoMarrah Iarim Dan on April 14, 2020, 12:48:21 PM
I think it is normal for a worker to beg for their salary especially if they are dedicated employees. They deserve that. It is their right. They / we badly need money for this quarantine. Well I know I am lucky enough that the company I am working at followed what our Government have said to still provide the salary even though it is quarantine period.  I do not know about the other company but I hope they are the same.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: ultrloa on April 14, 2020, 01:06:25 PM
People who do not work see their income being cut during this period of lockdown and coronavirus. However, the bills are running and need to get paid.
It is normal that the workers are asking to get paid and I hope they will be.
This must be a pathetic situation for most people around the world; I'm not sure how people are going to manage for their living without getting proper income from their employers; at the same time we cannot blame employers because they are not having usual business is running so that they could pay their employees. This is not just a situation of casino industry but everywhere we are seeing similar situations and people are suffering due to lock down.

Other than praying and hoping about all these pandemic situations will come to an end very soon so that everything in this world will get restored as the early as possible, we are not having anything else to do. I made few donations for few industry based people through their authorities and I am not sure how long I will be in a position to donate :(.

Guess those people who works on heartless employers suffers by now since mostly they are no work no pay and it sucks to see there are people leaving there employee behind, and gladly on our case even if we are in 3rd world country the government do their best to support us and we have weekly ration to help us survive on pandemic.

And hopefully all will cooperate and those hard headed person will do there share to stay at home so that the virus will be contained so that we can go back to normal.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Casdinyard on April 14, 2020, 02:18:23 PM
I think it is normal for a worker to beg for their salary especially if they are dedicated employees. They deserve that. It is their right. They / we badly need money for this quarantine. Well I know I am lucky enough that the company I am working at followed what our Government have said to still provide the salary even though it is quarantine period.  I do not know about the other company but I hope they are the same.
For some reasons company that cannot operate with their own facilities had to do follow the work from home policy so they would not shut the company down as well as their employees. I guess it's kinda natural for the worker to ask for extra money from their company, and the company should consider it by amending their budgeted stuffs at least for a year. Guess we're both lucky that we have our company behind us amidst the pandemic, I wish all of us have the same status as we are.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Question123 on April 14, 2020, 02:40:59 PM
Help is their need right now because we now more them once they did not worl they don't have enough savings to buy their needs at this moment. During lockdown helping each other is the besr solution I think this is the time for the owner of the casino to get back the hardwork of his/her works because remember there is no business successful without industrious and hardwork employees.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: stomachgrowls on April 14, 2020, 02:42:52 PM
People who do not work see their income being cut during this period of lockdown and coronavirus. However, the bills are running and need to get paid.
It is normal that the workers are asking to get paid and I hope they will be.
This must be a pathetic situation for most people around the world; I'm not sure how people are going to manage for their living without getting proper income from their employers; at the same time we cannot blame employers because they are not having usual business is running so that they could pay their employees. This is not just a situation of casino industry but everywhere we are seeing similar situations and people are suffering due to lock down.

Other than praying and hoping about all these pandemic situations will come to an end very soon so that everything in this world will get restored as the early as possible, we are not having anything else to do. I made few donations for few industry based people through their authorities and I am not sure how long I will be in a position to donate :(.

Guess those people who works on heartless employers suffers by now since mostly they are no work no pay and it sucks to see there are people leaving there employee behind, and gladly on our case even if we are in 3rd world country the government do their best to support us and we have weekly ration to help us survive on pandemic.

And hopefully all will cooperate and those hard headed person will do there share to stay at home so that the virus will be contained so that we can go back to normal.
Situation becomes even more worst because of those kind of people who are really opposing on whats being instructed.This problem wont be solved out if people do remain like that specially the vaccine isnt available
yet we should at least take those measures to slow down the spread but that isnt the case we are seeing now.Situation becomes even more worst.

Its really sad to see those people who are really in difficult situations.Lucky for those fellas who do have still money to support theirselves for longer duration because they are financially capable
but for those who do just rely on their work then there should be at least some consideration came from to its employer.

This is a global crisis and we wont know on when it would last.So everybody should really be keen on spending into various things and save up as much as we can.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: tbterryboy on April 14, 2020, 03:20:09 PM
Help is their need right now because we now more them once they did not worl they don't have enough savings to buy their needs at this moment. During lockdown helping each other is the besr solution I think this is the time for the owner of the casino to get back the hardwork of his/her works because remember there is no business successful without industrious and hardwork employees.
I doubt casino and theater kind of public gathering business may not get back to normal even the corona outbreak will be ending. This must be really very sad news for all of us because we're going to lose these big entertainment sectors forever must probably. Because, once people get practice to some other entertainment then it would be too hard to get back to them to the old ones.

Honestly I am too afraid about the workers of casino and theater because they might be get laid off permanently and they will be in need to get into new jobs for their survival.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: TheAndy500 on April 14, 2020, 03:30:44 PM
This is a section related to gambling, so it is obvious that it was written about the fact that casino employees were left without jobs and livelihoods. Unfortunately, but they are not alone in this problem, because in the same situation there are millions of people in the world from almost every industry. I will not accuse any of the parties here, but I think we should all think very deeply about what the consumer lifestyle led to. Let this be a lesson to us all. As for casino employees, like for everyone else in this situation, in my opinion should help them the government.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Viscore on April 14, 2020, 04:10:26 PM
in my opinion should help them the government.
That's the best solution for now if the casino owners will insist on not paying the  employees because in the first place their operation was also suspended and they are not making money, so they are a very good reason not to pay their employees. The government can extend help but these people will have to understand that it will not give all they want, the help will only be limited to basic needs.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: TheAndy500 on April 14, 2020, 04:19:43 PM
in my opinion should help them the government.
That's the best solution for now if the casino owners will insist on not paying the  employees because in the first place their operation was also suspended and they are not making money, so they are a very good reason not to pay their employees. The government can extend help but these people will have to understand that it will not give all they want, the help will only be limited to basic needs.

I am not saying that the government should cover all the costs of maintaining employees. But if the casino is not able to handle it, then the government should either support the casino or give some social assistance directly to employees. Let's not forget that casinos pay huge sums of taxes to the government. I think this is a good time to use this money for help, because without them there would be no money at all.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: dunfida on April 14, 2020, 04:40:43 PM
in my opinion should help them the government.
That's the best solution for now if the casino owners will insist on not paying the  employees because in the first place their operation was also suspended and they are not making money, so they are a very good reason not to pay their employees. The government can extend help but these people will have to understand that it will not give all they want, the help will only be limited to basic needs.

I am not saying that the government should cover all the costs of maintaining employees. But if the casino is not able to handle it, then the government should either support the casino or give some social assistance directly to employees. Let's not forget that casinos pay huge sums of taxes to the government. I think this is a good time to use this money for help, because without them there would be no money at all.
You got some point that casinos do pay up big taxes but havent you consider on other industries? We know on how taxes being applied on several sectors.
There might be some considerations but government wont be that much to be concerned about those people who are only affected by those casinos.
They do think up as a whole without any exclusions in towards on helping to those people who doesnt have work not only just prioritizing someone because
their company does give out bigger portion of it.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: bitbunnny on April 14, 2020, 05:10:43 PM
in my opinion should help them the government.
That's the best solution for now if the casino owners will insist on not paying the  employees because in the first place their operation was also suspended and they are not making money, so they are a very good reason not to pay their employees. The government can extend help but these people will have to understand that it will not give all they want, the help will only be limited to basic needs.

I am not saying that the government should cover all the costs of maintaining employees. But if the casino is not able to handle it, then the government should either support the casino or give some social assistance directly to employees. Let's not forget that casinos pay huge sums of taxes to the government. I think this is a good time to use this money for help, because without them there would be no money at all.

That it's true. Since casinos mainly have been closed on government instructions because of virus spread then it's up to governments to help the empoyers and employees.
In my country it's been settled like this, government is covering a part of salary for all companies, no matter what they cope with, who had to stop working because of corona virus. I think that is fair.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on April 14, 2020, 05:47:59 PM
That it's true. Since casinos mainly have been closed on government instructions because of virus spread then it's up to governments to help the empoyers and employees.
In my country it's been settled like this, government is covering a part of salary for all companies, no matter what they cope with, who had to stop working because of corona virus. I think that is fair.

I guess you are residing in a developed nation such as Switzerland or Japan. Here in India, we don't have such luxuries. A lot of people are out of job, and the government is not doing much about it. Those who are without any savings are facing a lot of challenges. And even people like me are afraid that our jobs will be lost if this situation continues for another 2-3 months.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Pmalek on April 14, 2020, 06:02:26 PM
That's true but they have insurance and savings because when they are still operational they are open 24/7, even if these are small-time casinos they are still making money, because gambling casinos are the surest way to make a profit, even here in our place a local betting game can make money for the operators of the game.
They have some saving but also running costs. Maybe it will work for a few months but what will they do later when their savings are at 0. It's hard to say how long all this will last.

I will compare the situation with a local restaurant owner I know from my town. When we came under lockdown, a few restaurants immediately fired their employees and closed down. This guy I know criticized them, and decided to keep everyone. He paid their full salaries for weeks. Two months into the lockdown, he recently told them that he will have to let them go.

He was paying them from his profits, and his own pocket. He was no longer able to do that without risking his own financial future and that of his family.
Casinos only care about their profit, very little about the rest. It's hard to expect them putting their own interests at stake.   


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: panganib999 on April 14, 2020, 07:22:24 PM
Casino workers/employees have their rights to ask for their salary or at least financial assistance that will be coming from their employers because even those people are working in a casino, still they are working in a legal way well of course they must be working on a legal and accredited casino workplace and they are als feeding their families. Although casinos are currently closed because of lockdown restrictions that do not allow any non essential corporation (not related to good and medical) to operate, well at least those casinos give financial assistance to their people even if they will have to bring out money that will somehow be their loss. Casinos must cater to sustain what their workers need at times like this because talking about money, it can still be earned but the life of the people which will die in hunger not being able to sustain their necessities is not replaceable.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: milewilda on April 14, 2020, 11:04:44 PM
That it's true. Since casinos mainly have been closed on government instructions because of virus spread then it's up to governments to help the empoyers and employees.
In my country it's been settled like this, government is covering a part of salary for all companies, no matter what they cope with, who had to stop working because of corona virus. I think that is fair.

I guess you are residing in a developed nation such as Switzerland or Japan. Here in India, we don't have such luxuries. A lot of people are out of job, and the government is not doing much about it. Those who are without any savings are facing a lot of challenges. And even people like me are afraid that our jobs will be lost if this situation continues for another 2-3 months.
This wont really be a problem if you do reside into a rich country but if not then you would really have that kind of problem when it comes to sustaining yourself. 1 month local quarantine is already hard,
how much more on months? People do really indeed need of a job and just like on where im living where people do still work in spite of the threat of covid because if they wont work then they wont
have salary. When it comes to aides or government support, it isnt really that enough and just good for few day or weeks time.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: TimeTeller on April 14, 2020, 11:09:05 PM
Casino workers/employees have their rights to ask for their salary or at least financial assistance that will be coming from their employers because even those people are working in a casino, still they are working in a legal way well of course they must be working on a legal and accredited casino workplace and they are als feeding their families. Although casinos are currently closed because of lockdown restrictions that do not allow any non essential corporation (not related to good and medical) to operate, well at least those casinos give financial assistance to their people even if they will have to bring out money that will somehow be their loss. Casinos must cater to sustain what their workers need at times like this because talking about money, it can still be earned but the life of the people which will die in hunger not being able to sustain their necessities is not replaceable.

This action should be happening in all businesses, those who truly care for their employees.
Give them a bit of assistance while government's aid is out of reach.
In times likes this, you will know how far an employer can go beyond on their responsibilities.
Not many businesses can afford, but you will see what kind of support they can give to their employees.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Natalim on April 14, 2020, 11:21:14 PM
This action should be happening in all businesses, those who truly care for their employees.
Give them a bit of assistance while government's aid is out of reach.
Unfortunately not all business are good with this, some keeps their profit and only give to their employees what is due to them.
Business is business for them, they don't use a heart here.

In times likes this, you will know how far an employer can go beyond on their responsibilities.
Not many businesses can afford, but you will see what kind of support they can give to their employees.
Exactly, but casino business is a big business especially in vegas, so I think they are making enough profit which they can still spare a little amount to their employees who are asking for support, but then again, it's the employees decision.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Hippocrypto on April 14, 2020, 11:37:35 PM
This action should be happening in all businesses, those who truly care for their employees.
Give them a bit of assistance while government's aid is out of reach.
Unfortunately not all business are good with this, some keeps their profit and only give to their employees what is due to them.
Business is business for them, they don't use a heart here.

In times likes this, you will know how far an employer can go beyond on their responsibilities.
Not many businesses can afford, but you will see what kind of support they can give to their employees.
Exactly, but casino business is a big business especially in vegas, so I think they are making enough profit which they can still spare a little amount to their employees who are asking for support, but then again, it's the employees decision.

I just hope so that, here in our local place casino would do the same as Western country did. Here in asia, I guess casino proprietor is the wealthiest business establishment and believed to be capable of taking care the needs of their employees. That only depends on the gambling casino owners to provide their employees all of those benefits.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: HatakeKakashi on April 14, 2020, 11:53:14 PM
So help them if the casino did not want help them so the government needs to provide the needs they want.
But better to the casino to give what is want of their employee because that money is very little for them and they cannot lose more money on this because after the lockdown that employee will work them and the casino will start again earning money .


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: harizen on April 15, 2020, 12:23:46 AM
So help them if the casino did not want help them so the government needs to provide the needs they want.
But better to the casino to give what is want of their employee because that money is very little for them and they cannot lose more money on this because after the lockdown that employee will work them and the casino will start again earning money .

Easier said than done. I believed casino operators already gave support to their employees for let's say 1-2 months (just figures). If these employees are demanding more, I doubt it will be granted. But I do hope they will still continue to lend a hand at their own will like for say, once or a couple of times per month.

The problem now is if the lockdown continues and if these employees demand continuous support until everything is back to normal and let's say it was granted, operators will lose more money since there is no revenue coming and that is chaos for their workers. They are earning millions but spending also millions in operations aside from the funds allocated to donations. Casinos might only allow a few employees to come back for work or maybe will not open for service yet and that's a disaster to become unemployed after the situation got back to normal.

Their employees should use all their sources wisely because, in a time like this, we can't just demand continuous support from our companies or even to the government itself. Somehow they are still fortunate as there are people who didn't receive any support from their company. We should accept that our usual life standards will now be different.



Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: maydna on April 15, 2020, 04:05:41 AM
So help them if the casino did not want help them so the government needs to provide the needs they want.
But better to the casino to give what is want of their employee because that money is very little for them and they cannot lose more money on this because after the lockdown that employee will work them and the casino will start again earning money .

I hope the casino can give the money as that will be like a gift to their employee in these hard situations. They will be grateful and thank you to the owner if they can do that. But the casino cannot give the money every month because they now cannot running their business so perhaps, they will give the money for some month. We cannot blame the casino if they do that because they also need that money for another thing, and of course, they also have family that will need that money.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Debonaire217 on April 15, 2020, 04:49:12 AM
So help them if the casino did not want help them so the government needs to provide the needs they want.
But better to the casino to give what is want of their employee because that money is very little for them and they cannot lose more money on this because after the lockdown that employee will work them and the casino will start again earning money .

I see the problem here is simple, government want a lock down to ensure that the virus will not spread further but the people think that government should also be the one providing most of their necessities which is in fact for me isn't actually just. Why? Because it is for their safety that government is taking into consideration yet they condemn the government because of it. What I can say, yes, government should provide the salary but other than that, it is only a good will for the government to provide additional support, what I mean is that, people should not just rely on the government but act and be prepared on their own as well. What if the government lose their funds right?


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: verita1 on April 15, 2020, 06:47:29 AM
It is very bad that the employers of the Casinos did not pay their employees. It is inhumane, in such a dire situation that the pandemic has struck, these Casino owners should help the working hand that has made them wealthy. Like all closed businesses today, they are massively laying off their employees. In the midst of all this, I have seen humanitarian aid that they have been sending food to them and also the Trump government has created a plan to send money to Americans in this chaos of Covid19.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: xSkylarx on April 15, 2020, 09:38:44 AM
That it's true. Since casinos mainly have been closed on government instructions because of virus spread then it's up to governments to help the empoyers and employees.
In my country it's been settled like this, government is covering a part of salary for all companies, no matter what they cope with, who had to stop working because of corona virus. I think that is fair.

I guess you are residing in a developed nation such as Switzerland or Japan. Here in India, we don't have such luxuries. A lot of people are out of job, and the government is not doing much about it. Those who are without any savings are facing a lot of challenges. And even people like me are afraid that our jobs will be lost if this situation continues for another 2-3 months.
This wont really be a problem if you do reside into a rich country but if not then you would really have that kind of problem when it comes to sustaining yourself. 1 month local quarantine is already hard,
how much more on months? People do really indeed need of a job and just like on where im living where people do still work in spite of the threat of covid because if they wont work then they wont
have salary. When it comes to aides or government support, it isnt really that enough and just good for few day or weeks time.

In our country the government had ordered company to release a portion of the 13th month pay in advance, along with a certain amount of help for those worker who have suffered from the lockdown. There are comapnies who had given their employees' a month worth of salary even the company is not operational. It all depends on the company on how will they extend their help to their employees during this hardship.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: LogitechMouse on April 15, 2020, 10:19:29 AM
I can't blame the casino owners if they aren't giving financial assistance to their employees now that the crisis has struck us.

The owners must have the responsibility to give some assistance to their employees if they know how they'd helped them to make the business a success but some are just... I don't know what term will I use but they don't want to give some assistance to them.

As for the employees, whatever happens they must have always a savings account while the are working so that if times like this will happen then they have the funds to use in the middle of the crisis. This is the problem for most of the employees. They don't know how to save. They are using their money into different expenses and some are just wasting their salary.

Either way, I'm still happy that some of the employers not only in the gambling industry but in the different companies are helping their employees. They know how to help those people who helped them in their business.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Gyfts on April 15, 2020, 10:26:07 AM
Not all businesses can afford to make zero in revenue and still afford to pay their employees when the business isn't operation. That's when the federal government comes in and offers unemployment to laid off workers. Private entities shouldn't be held liable to pay workers that were laid off for reasons outside of the business's control. On another note, running casinos isn't cheap. The amount of overhead they need to pay off is highly dependent on revenue that comes in each quarter. Many Vegas casinos can't afford to pay out hundreds of thousands of dollars in monthly salaries without have any source of revenue.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: milewilda on April 15, 2020, 10:30:30 AM
That it's true. Since casinos mainly have been closed on government instructions because of virus spread then it's up to governments to help the empoyers and employees.
In my country it's been settled like this, government is covering a part of salary for all companies, no matter what they cope with, who had to stop working because of corona virus. I think that is fair.

I guess you are residing in a developed nation such as Switzerland or Japan. Here in India, we don't have such luxuries. A lot of people are out of job, and the government is not doing much about it. Those who are without any savings are facing a lot of challenges. And even people like me are afraid that our jobs will be lost if this situation continues for another 2-3 months.
This wont really be a problem if you do reside into a rich country but if not then you would really have that kind of problem when it comes to sustaining yourself. 1 month local quarantine is already hard,
how much more on months? People do really indeed need of a job and just like on where im living where people do still work in spite of the threat of covid because if they wont work then they wont
have salary. When it comes to aides or government support, it isnt really that enough and just good for few day or weeks time.

In our country the government had ordered company to release a portion of the 13th month pay in advance, along with a certain amount of help for those worker who have suffered from the lockdown. There are comapnies who had given their employees' a month worth of salary even the company is not operational. It all depends on the company on how will they extend their help to their employees during this hardship.
Lucky for those people who had been working into those companies but we do know that not all of them did the same thing when it comes on helping their own employees.
So this is an another story for those people who havent given yet and still struggling on finding ways on how to live or survive.For government employees, they do somehow still have salaries regularly even
they dont have any duties due to local or enhanced quarantine.Different sectors do have its own system and i consider lucky for those who have been supported or do still have income.
Its really sad to think on seeing people suffering around.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: carlisle1 on April 15, 2020, 10:50:03 AM
It is very bad that the employers of the Casinos did not pay their employees. It is inhumane, in such a dire situation that the pandemic has struck,
Actually it is their obligation to 'Pay" because they have been paid for their works,in OP this is asking about support since the pandemic occurs and they have no work to do so literally this is not their obligation but being a Human and employer they must support those workers in this kind of situation.
these Casino owners should help the working hand that has made them wealthy. Like all closed businesses today, they are massively laying off their employees. In the midst of all this, I have seen humanitarian aid that they have been sending food to them and also the Trump government has created a plan to send money to Americans in this chaos of Covid19.
like what i said it is  not their obligation but you are correct that Help must be for the employee since they have nothing to go now so even small help counts .


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Natalim on April 15, 2020, 11:11:36 AM
I just hope so that, here in our local place casino would do the same as Western country did. Here in asia, I guess casino proprietor is the wealthiest business establishment and believed to be capable of taking care the needs of their employees.
I think casino business if they are profitable, they are making a lot of money, whether they are located in big country or small countries.
so if they choose to give their employees some aid, they can do so.

That only depends on the gambling casino owners to provide their employees all of those benefits.
If its mandated by the law, they will sure provide it, but these employees are asking salary although they don't work, that's a different story.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: shoreno on April 15, 2020, 11:18:14 AM
That it's true. Since casinos mainly have been closed on government instructions because of virus spread then it's up to governments to help the empoyers and employees.
In my country it's been settled like this, government is covering a part of salary for all companies, no matter what they cope with, who had to stop working because of corona virus. I think that is fair.

I guess you are residing in a developed nation such as Switzerland or Japan. Here in India, we don't have such luxuries. A lot of people are out of job, and the government is not doing much about it. Those who are without any savings are facing a lot of challenges. And even people like me are afraid that our jobs will be lost if this situation continues for another 2-3 months.
This wont really be a problem if you do reside into a rich country but if not then you would really have that kind of problem when it comes to sustaining yourself. 1 month local quarantine is already hard,
how much more on months? People do really indeed need of a job and just like on where im living where people do still work in spite of the threat of covid because if they wont work then they wont
have salary. When it comes to aides or government support, it isnt really that enough and just good for few day or weeks time.

In our country the government had ordered company to release a portion of the 13th month pay in advance, along with a certain amount of help for those worker who have suffered from the lockdown. There are comapnies who had given their employees' a month worth of salary even the company is not operational. It all depends on the company on how will they extend their help to their employees during this hardship.
Lucky for those people who had been working into those companies but we do know that not all of them did the same thing when it comes on helping their own employees.
So this is an another story for those people who havent given yet and still struggling on finding ways on how to live or survive.For government employees, they do somehow still have salaries regularly even
they dont have any duties due to local or enhanced quarantine.Different sectors do have its own system and i consider lucky for those who have been supported or do still have income.
Its really sad to think on seeing people suffering around.

thier only luck is when if there are concerned citizens that will help them some  . on our place many people here dont work on government and not being supported by the no work /w pay policy but people here are so good because they help each other  .

if you are working on a casinos  , that is not right if you dont get help from your company because casino is not a poor business but they make millions a day  or higher than that  . so our question is what are they going to do with those money  ?


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: milewilda on April 15, 2020, 11:31:22 AM

thier only luck is when if there are concerned citizens that will help them some  . on our place many people here dont work on government and not being supported by the no work /w pay policy but people here are so good because they help each other  .

if you are working on a casinos  , that is not right if you dont get help from your company because casino is not a poor business but they make millions a day  or higher than that  . so our question is what are they going to do with those money  ?

What theyre going to do with those money? Its none of our business and we dont have right to lecture them on what they should gonna do because even how hard you do force to tell them that they should donate nor support their employees its either they would listen or just simply ignore.In general, they dont really have that obligation because they had been paid out when they are still working but now all is suspended or stopped then its just normal for them not to pay up. Unless if the said owner is kind-hearted then they might able to get some help but if not then its unfortunate.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: plvbob0070 on April 15, 2020, 11:50:25 AM
That it's true. Since casinos mainly have been closed on government instructions because of virus spread then it's up to governments to help the empoyers and employees.
In my country it's been settled like this, government is covering a part of salary for all companies, no matter what they cope with, who had to stop working because of corona virus. I think that is fair.
I guess you are residing in a developed nation such as Switzerland or Japan. Here in India, we don't have such luxuries. A lot of people are out of job, and the government is not doing much about it. Those who are without any savings are facing a lot of challenges. And even people like me are afraid that our jobs will be lost if this situation continues for another 2-3 months.
It's easy to say the government should be covering their problems but in some third world countries, it's hard to only depend on the government knowing that the economy is not that capable of covering every need of their people. But America is a developed country, though the number of cases is rapidly increasing. Every employee still has their parts and responsibilities for their workers.

Not all businesses can afford to make zero in revenue and still afford to pay their employees when the business isn't operation. That's when the federal government comes in and offers unemployment to laid off workers. Private entities shouldn't be held liable to pay workers that were laid off for reasons outside of the business's control. On another note, running casinos isn't cheap. The amount of overhead they need to pay off is highly dependent on revenue that comes in each quarter. Many Vegas casinos can't afford to pay out hundreds of thousands of dollars in monthly salaries without have any source of revenue.
But knowing that casinos are very popular in Las Vegas, and is often visited by tourists and other rich people, means they are earning a lot every year. Can't they just give their bonuses like Christmas and 13th-month pay in advance because obviously, they need money right now. If they can't give them salaries for a month without work, advancing their bonuses would do.



Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Betwrong on April 15, 2020, 02:14:53 PM
The casino workers, same as many many of others, have only one option, to wait until the lockdown is lifted. Today, it may seem like we all are going to die of hunger, but in reality no one will let that happen. To avoid an even worse situation than COVID-19 can cause, governments will start lifting the quarantine, one by one, regardless of the epidemiological situation. Maybe 6% of the infected people will die, and that's a huge and very disturbing number, but no one can live without food, and this, of course, will be taken into account.

But that's how it can unfold in the worst case scenario. What is more likely is that the whole thing will be over in a month or two, and people, including casino workers, will return to their normal lives.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on April 15, 2020, 02:16:09 PM
OK.. I read the replies to my post. I guess I was wrong in asking the employers to credit the salaries. After all, businessmen would be behaving like businessmen. If we look in a legal perspective, then they don't need to pay their employees. So we can't force them to do that. I feel bad about the employees. But there is hardly anything we can do at this point.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: robelneo on April 15, 2020, 02:17:52 PM

Although it's awful that some successful casino owners and management forget to protect and help their employees who helped them to become successful, some casino owners were able to send help and give their employees the salary they need. Perhaps they don't care about their employees' financial struggle because they have a lot of money, and they can survive the whole lockdown with that money.

It's their responsibility to give them a salary even if the business is closed. They should be prepared in times like this, and for sure they have an emergency fund to provide their employees. It's only a simple sacrifice for the employees who have been working for them every day.


The agency that looks for the welfare of the workers should look on this matter, these casinos operators have the security of tenure and perks, they should advance their perks and benefits and only deduct it when things get better, they are not giving their employers a large amount of money, they will not go bankrupt for doing so, if they fail to support their workers government should prosecute them.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: matchi2011 on April 15, 2020, 03:25:34 PM
OK.. I read the replies to my post. I guess I was wrong in asking the employers to credit the salaries. After all, businessmen would be behaving like businessmen. If we look in a legal perspective, then they don't need to pay their employees. So we can't force them to do that. I feel bad about the employees. But there is hardly anything we can do at this point.
It's the free will of employers to provide help for their employees, there's no rules of laws that engaged them to comply in doing this kind works though it's a human desire to help if there's a excess from your own pockets. For now lets just believe that from this ongoing crisis more people will show interest in helping others especially those business owners who have good reserves of money to help the people who works for them.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: South Park on April 15, 2020, 08:52:21 PM
This wont really be a problem if you do reside into a rich country but if not then you would really have that kind of problem when it comes to sustaining yourself. 1 month local quarantine is already hard,
how much more on months? People do really indeed need of a job and just like on where im living where people do still work in spite of the threat of covid because if they wont work then they wont
have salary. When it comes to aides or government support, it isnt really that enough and just good for few day or weeks time.
This is happening all over the world and in all kind of industries, people were not prepared for this kind of event, most of the time it is recommended that people have at least 3 months worth of savings in the case they lose their job but very few people have that kind of money in store and now we are seeing the consequences of this, after just a few weeks of quarantine most people cannot take it anymore and they have to go out and try to get some money risking their health in the process, so while there is nothing we can do at the moment let this be a lesson to everyone out there, we need to have some savings just in case something like this happens again.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: stomachgrowls on April 15, 2020, 09:23:27 PM

It's the free will of employers to provide help for their employees, there's no rules of laws that engaged them to comply in doing this kind works though it's a human desire to help if there's a excess from your own pockets. For now lets just believe that from this ongoing crisis more people will show interest in helping others especially those business owners who have good reserves of money to help the people who works for them.
It would really be good if they would have that kind of decision on where they do tend to help out to those who are in need but we know that not all would have that kind of attitude towards
other people.In most case, these owners are greedy excluding to those who do really help.

This is happening all over the world and in all kind of industries, people were not prepared for this kind of event, most of the time it is recommended that people have at least 3 months worth of savings in the case they lose their job but very few people have that kind of money in store and now we are seeing the consequences of this, after just a few weeks of quarantine most people cannot take it anymore and they have to go out and try to get some money risking their health in the process, so while there is nothing we can do at the moment let this be a lesson to everyone out there, we need to have some savings just in case something like this happens again.

I cant really blame out people not to go outside into their house and continue to work in spite of the threat of such virus because if people wont do such thing
then they wont die on virus itself but they would die on hunger.

Savings is always been a helpful thing but majority do really find this importance when they are already on the hard situation.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Emitdama on April 16, 2020, 01:23:27 PM
Unionization does help during periods like this and people are not really fully aware of it. When there is a common problem for a specific line of work, like casino workers for example are having right now, you can be in a union and actually get something for it. However you can't go on a strike right now, obviously nobody is working anyway, however you can definitely make sure when things go back to normal you can strike to get all of this lost time back as well, it could be a bit late but it would be something at least.

Owners are making billions of dollars every single year, they could definitely afford to make few billion dollars less however regular workers can't afford to make zero since that would mean starvation for them. Not just casino workers, everyone should be paid, either my the company or by the government, so they can survive.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: bitcoin31 on April 16, 2020, 01:45:15 PM
Giving what they want is very little to the casino because they are earning a huge profit daily. But giving full salary is not good better to provide what they need . Or half of their salary daily in the casino because right now are in the situation that we need need each other.
I hope the decision of the casino owner will help their workers and help them and others too.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Raflesia on April 16, 2020, 02:08:18 PM
This wont really be a problem if you do reside into a rich country but if not then you would really have that kind of problem when it comes to sustaining yourself. 1 month local quarantine is already hard,
how much more on months? People do really indeed need of a job and just like on where im living where people do still work in spite of the threat of covid because if they wont work then they wont
have salary. When it comes to aides or government support, it isnt really that enough and just good for few day or weeks time.
This is happening all over the world and in all kind of industries, people were not prepared for this kind of event, most of the time it is recommended that people have at least 3 months worth of savings in the case they lose their job but very few people have that kind of money in store and now we are seeing the consequences of this, after just a few weeks of quarantine most people cannot take it anymore and they have to go out and try to get some money risking their health in the process, so while there is nothing we can do at the moment let this be a lesson to everyone out there, we need to have some savings just in case something like this happens again.

Therefore, we should be able to save as much as possible in our finances, I know that in times of crisis like this many are still experiencing the same thing and therefore we should be able to avoid gambling if there is no fixed salary because this pandemic will seem to last long.
At the moment I still have a fixed salary so for other extras I search this forum by gambling or trading anything that makes money in this forum. I will do it to get money for my needs, therefore I will reduce gambling and not too often. during this pandemic.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on April 16, 2020, 02:30:19 PM
Giving what they want is very little to the casino because they are earning a huge profit daily. But giving full salary is not good better to provide what they need . Or half of their salary daily in the casino because right now are in the situation that we need need each other.
I hope the decision of the casino owner will help their workers and help them and others too.

Casinos are just like any other business. You and me can ask the owners to be a bit more generous, but there is only a small chance that they will listen to what we have to say. When the casinos operate in profit, the workers also benefit out of it and they get generous bonus and allowances. But in hard times, the workers may have to contend with reduced earnings, just like the case with any other sector.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: pawanjain on April 16, 2020, 02:43:30 PM
Nobody would have expected that a pandemic like this would hit us so hard so quickly. To be honest, nobody was prepared for such a thing.
It's not just about casinos and it's employees but every industry is facing this troublesome situation.
It depends on the owners if they can afford to pay their employees or not. We can't blame the owners too since they will have to pay the bills and bare the loss anyway. It's good that despite this situation, there are some owners who are paying their employees but only prayers can help the rest.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: mirakal on April 16, 2020, 02:52:11 PM
Nobody would have expected that a pandemic like this would hit us so hard so quickly. To be honest, nobody was prepared for such a thing.
It's not just about casinos and it's employees but every industry is facing this troublesome situation.
It depends on the owners if they can afford to pay their employees or not. We can't blame the owners too since they will have to pay the bills and bare the loss anyway. It's good that despite this situation, there are some owners who are paying their employees but only prayers can help the rest.
There's no obligation here by the owners, but the government has.
Employees should ask help to the government instead, in fact US have printed trillions as a budget to face this pandemic, as a tax payer, we have to right to seek help from the government and even these casino owners as they themselves are tax payers as well.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Casdinyard on April 16, 2020, 03:11:07 PM
Nobody would have expected that a pandemic like this would hit us so hard so quickly. To be honest, nobody was prepared for such a thing.
It's not just about casinos and it's employees but every industry is facing this troublesome situation.
It depends on the owners if they can afford to pay their employees or not. We can't blame the owners too since they will have to pay the bills and bare the loss anyway. It's good that despite this situation, there are some owners who are paying their employees but only prayers can help the rest.
There's no obligation here by the owners, but the government has.
Employees should ask help to the government instead, in fact US have printed trillions as a budget to face this pandemic, as a tax payer, we have to right to seek help from the government and even these casino owners as they themselves are tax payers as well.
Every government is doing its job for its citizen, as much as they can, there are just countries that is hardly unattainable due to some facts. I see nothing wrong with employees asking for consideration with their company to provide them something useful in times like this like cash assistance, food and water and company owner should consider them too not only as their worker but as a human too. We are all tax payers, every one should be viewed equally by the government but you cannot take the fact that there are people who is paying more tax than somebody.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Asuspawer09 on April 16, 2020, 03:15:27 PM
People around the world now are crying for help and this is not the Government,Employers nor Employees fault this is a Crisis and everyone should bare with this,we need to at least tighten our Belts for a while.

we must not live like what our normal ways because this will not save us from Hell.let us just spend smaller than half of our usual days.
the problem is People tend to just ask for help but don't just help their self.

But of course we Know casinos that has a tons of money inside and it is simple for them to help thousand employees if they want.
Yeah most of the time we just spend our money daily we just have a bad habit of spending our money and have the thinking that we are still going to earn soon and not even considering to invest or save money for the future, and then crisis like this a pandemic virus arrived so were like no jobs and earnings at all now you're asking for a salary because you don't even save for this moment.

I'm not saying all of them are irresponsible there are still people that just no saving because they have children or family. For sure the casino might consider giving help but for sure that would not be enough to sustain them.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on April 16, 2020, 04:12:14 PM
Workers work hard all year long and the owners make a lot of money all year long. At this moment of danger, all the factory/Casino owners have to help the workers with some money. Too many workers have lost their jobs, and factory/Casino owners have left without paying them, It should not be done at all.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: AicecreaME on April 16, 2020, 04:57:46 PM
I've seen so many companies like this, that they value much more the money than their employees, which is pretty ironic. First of, they can't make money that much without their employees, therefore they must treat them as a family, if they want their business to grow more. The problem about rich people is that they don't care anymore about other people, hence, they only care for their selves and money.

The sad truth is, even in situation like this, they always think about their money, how would they grow it even more. They're not thinking that if this pandemic continue to spread even more, they will also get infected and die, guess what, their money won't save them, they can't also take it to their funeral.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: AicecreaME on April 16, 2020, 06:02:14 PM
Nobody would have expected that a pandemic like this would hit us so hard so quickly. To be honest, nobody was prepared for such a thing.
It's not just about casinos and it's employees but every industry is facing this troublesome situation.
It depends on the owners if they can afford to pay their employees or not. We can't blame the owners too since they will have to pay the bills and bare the loss anyway. It's good that despite this situation, there are some owners who are paying their employees but only prayers can help the rest.
There's no obligation here by the owners, but the government has.
Employees should ask help to the government instead, in fact US have printed trillions as a budget to face this pandemic, as a tax payer, we have to right to seek help from the government and even these casino owners as they themselves are tax payers as well.


Good point. I agree with you at some parts, but let me add a bit. In this times of calamities, most of the non-essential establishments were closed and essential establishments were prioritized to be maintained open. Casino is one of those non-essential establishment, hence during the span time of community quarantine and lockdown, they won't also generate income.

Work from home policy was suggested to every company, but this can't be applied to casino enterprises. Therefore, their employees won't have salary the entire lockdown. Yes, the owners technically have no obligations to their employees not being able to work during this pandemic, that's why they also don't have the responsibility to shoulder their salaries. However, compassion over their employees could be applied. They could use some of their fund (especially those big time casinos) to give their employees some money just to get by. They could also give the money allotted for Chirstmas bonus earlier so they won't have to shoulder the salary technically speaking.

But I must say, the most responsible during this time to give the people the money they need is the government since they have billions of fund allocatted especially in times of crisis. Yes, you're definitely right that we have all the right to ask for help since everyone of us are tax payers. We fund whatever projects they have, therefore they must use these to protect us. They are responsible to give relief goods as well as cash aids to their constituents so these people, especially no work, no pay, could survive.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: jrrsparkles on April 16, 2020, 06:07:59 PM
Nobody would have expected that a pandemic like this would hit us so hard so quickly. To be honest, nobody was prepared for such a thing.
It's not just about casinos and it's employees but every industry is facing this troublesome situation.
It depends on the owners if they can afford to pay their employees or not. We can't blame the owners too since they will have to pay the bills and bare the loss anyway. It's good that despite this situation, there are some owners who are paying their employees but only prayers can help the rest.
There's no obligation here by the owners, but the government has.
Employees should ask help to the government instead, in fact US have printed trillions as a budget to face this pandemic, as a tax payer, we have to right to seek help from the government and even these casino owners as they themselves are tax payers as well.


Good point. I agree with you at some parts, but let me add a bit. In this times of calamities, most of the non-essential establishments were closed and essential establishments were prioritized to be maintained open. Casino is one of those non-essential establishment, hence during the span time of community quarantine and lockdown, they won't also generate income.

Work from home policy was suggested to every company, but this can't be applied to casino enterprises. Therefore, their employees won't have salary the entire lockdown. Yes, the owners technically have no obligations to their employees not being able to work during this pandemic, that's why they also don't have the responsibility to shoulder their salaries. However, compassion over their employees could be applied. They could use some of their fund (especially those big time casinos) to give their employees some money just to get by. They could also give the money allotted for Chirstmas bonus earlier so they won't have to shoulder the salary technically speaking.

But I must say, the most responsible during this time to give the people the money they need is the government since they have billions of fund allocatted especially in times of crisis. Yes, you're definitely right that we have all the right to ask for help since everyone of us are tax payers. We fund whatever projects they have, therefore they must use these to protect us. They are responsible to give relief goods as well as cash aids to their constituents so these people, especially no work, no pay, could survive.
I heard that government is going to pay half of the salary for every worker and the remaining should be paid by companies, not sure is this legit or not but this seems good idea and people can spread the bare value here.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: dunfida on April 16, 2020, 06:51:29 PM
Nobody would have expected that a pandemic like this would hit us so hard so quickly. To be honest, nobody was prepared for such a thing.
It's not just about casinos and it's employees but every industry is facing this troublesome situation.
It depends on the owners if they can afford to pay their employees or not. We can't blame the owners too since they will have to pay the bills and bare the loss anyway. It's good that despite this situation, there are some owners who are paying their employees but only prayers can help the rest.
There's no obligation here by the owners, but the government has.
Employees should ask help to the government instead, in fact US have printed trillions as a budget to face this pandemic, as a tax payer, we have to right to seek help from the government and even these casino owners as they themselves are tax payers as well.

Your right!

Casino owners doesnt really have that obligation but they can at least give out some small help but its still their own choice though.
In times like these then government would really have that responsibility when it comes to support in times of crisis but its quite
understandable that they cant give out support like forever since we know that budget arent really that vast on supporting
millions of had been affected. Budget will surely plummet no matter how big it is.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: bisdak40 on April 16, 2020, 09:50:58 PM
I've seen so many companies like this, that they value much more the money than their employees, which is pretty ironic. First of, they can't make money that much without their employees, therefore they must treat them as a family, if they want their business to grow more. The problem about rich people is that they don't care anymore about other people, hence, they only care for their selves and money.

The sad truth is, even in situation like this, they always think about their money, how would they grow it even more. They're not thinking that if this pandemic continue to spread even more, they will also get infected and die, guess what, their money won't save them, they can't also take it to their funeral.

It may not be all companies are like on what you are portraying but with my experience, my company is one of those company that is hesitant to extend help to it's employees. Casinos and all other companies are not different during this time of crisis, they are all affected. As i've said on my previous post that it companies would help their employees, this would make them more loyal to them and would help them recover the loses they incurred once this pandemic is over. We all know that this is the government's responsibility but knowing the extent of the problem, the government can't do it alone specially in the developing countries.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Renampun on April 16, 2020, 10:17:36 PM
Offline casino entrepreneurs surely confused about this...
Paying employee salaries is a worker's obligation according to the wage and labor agreement but the current conditions are different. Workers do not work, as usual, not paying a full salary is the best solution imo.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: seleme on April 16, 2020, 11:12:41 PM
Offline casino entrepreneurs surely confused about this...
Paying employee salaries is a worker's obligation according to the wage and labor agreement but the current conditions are different. Workers do not work, as usual, not paying a full salary is the best solution imo.
$1200 amount is not enough for everyone but it is normal for daily food and needs. Maybe governments will restrict the companies to fire the employees due to the recent lockdown but the support should be kept for covering the needs of people. For keeping the minimum impact of the global recession, the workers should look for passive income, unfortunately.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: joshy23 on April 17, 2020, 01:49:16 AM
Offline casino entrepreneurs surely confused about this...
Paying employee salaries is a worker's obligation according to the wage and labor agreement but the current conditions are different. Workers do not work, as usual, not paying a full salary is the best solution imo.
With no work no pay setup employers are not obliged to pay their employees though the situations / crisis force everything stop both employees and employers are not prepared to this situations, helping is also not prohibited and if you are caring with those people who are in need of your help employers will give something if ever they can't provide the whole amount they can still give or provide something just to survived.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Sadlife on April 17, 2020, 01:53:58 AM
That's why it's very recommended to always have a side hustle even before the pandemic most employers have been doing this kind of thing to their employees. Just like in wayfair they've laid off over 500 workers just to hire new workers that accepts lower salary.

So these situations does not only occur in casino workers but also other businesses.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: TitanGEL on April 17, 2020, 02:09:15 AM
Offline casino entrepreneurs surely confused about this...
Paying employee salaries is a worker's obligation according to the wage and labor agreement but the current conditions are different. Workers do not work, as usual, not paying a full salary is the best solution imo.
With no work no pay setup employers are not obliged to pay their employees though the situations / crisis force everything stop both employees and employers are not prepared to this situations, helping is also not prohibited and if you are caring with those people who are in need of your help employers will give something if ever they can't provide the whole amount they can still give or provide something just to survived.
For sure that their management didn't foresee this kind of scenario, there are many people who losses their job not only physical casinos. Most of the small entrepreneurs are the one who are really affected because of the pandemic. The government should help their citizens especially those poorest lf the poor. The casinos employees should also received payments from their management in order for them to have money that they can use to spend in necessary things like food and water.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: onrise on April 17, 2020, 05:39:21 AM
That's why it's very recommended to always have a side hustle even before the pandemic most employers have been doing this kind of thing to their employees. Just like in wayfair they've laid off over 500 workers just to hire new workers that accepts lower salary.

So these situations does not only occur in casino workers but also other businesses.

Smart people will understand that those who are joining now even in future they would be removed the way others have being removed before them . So either this guys will leave before it and overall when their is no stability in retention somewhere down the line it will have impact how small or big is unknown . That is why loyalty pays for people who are their from long time .


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: acroman08 on April 17, 2020, 06:06:56 AM
Although it's awful that some successful casino owners and management forget to protect and help their employees who helped them to become successful, some casino owners were able to send help and give their employees the salary they need. Perhaps they don't care about their employees' financial struggle because they have a lot of money, and they can survive the whole lockdown with that money.

It's their responsibility to give them a salary even if the business is closed. They should be prepared in times like this, and for sure they have an emergency fund to provide their employees. It's only a simple sacrifice for the employees who have been working for them every day.

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this kind of thing was to be expected that some employers will help their employee and some won't whether we like it or not employers are not obligated or not their responsibility to provide salary if the business is closed. but only a matter of morality if they will help their employees and those who don't help their employees will likely lose a lot of faith from their workers after this crisis over. to be honest, knowing that this is in America. their local government shouldn't have a problem providing necessities to the citizens.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: rodskee on April 17, 2020, 06:18:48 AM
That's why it's very recommended to always have a side hustle even before the pandemic most employers have been doing this kind of thing to their employees. Just like in wayfair they've laid off over 500 workers just to hire new workers that accepts lower salary.

So these situations does not only occur in casino workers but also other businesses.
Though this is another story but yeah thats inhumane mate because kicking old employees with high salary and changing with another set of low paying people is against the rules of humanity.
and at any cost Employer is the one who must help their own people and not to make them suffer ,because Business is not only relying on proprietor but also with the effort and skills of employees.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: plvbob0070 on April 17, 2020, 07:59:53 AM
OK.. I read the replies to my post. I guess I was wrong in asking the employers to credit the salaries. After all, businessmen would be behaving like businessmen. If we look in a legal perspective, then they don't need to pay their employees. So we can't force them to do that. I feel bad about the employees. But there is hardly anything we can do at this point.
It's the free will of employers to provide help for their employees, there's no rules of laws that engaged them to comply in doing this kind works though it's a human desire to help if there's a excess from your own pockets. For now lets just believe that from this ongoing crisis more people will show interest in helping others especially those business owners who have good reserves of money to help the people who works for them.
You have a point, but they are showing no humanity towards their employees. If I were a worker in those casinos who didn't give any help, I might just leave and find another company that would care with their employees.

Giving what they want is very little to the casino because they are earning a huge profit daily. But giving full salary is not good better to provide what they need . Or half of their salary daily in the casino because right now are in the situation that we need need each other.
I hope the decision of the casino owner will help their workers and help them and others too.
Other casino companies were able to help their employees but others can't. Though it's not necessary for them to give help, I just feel bad for the workers because unlike those rich company employers, they don't know the struggle of finding enough money to survive the whole lockdown period.

Offline casino entrepreneurs surely confused about this...
Paying employee salaries is a worker's obligation according to the wage and labor agreement but the current conditions are different. Workers do not work, as usual, not paying a full salary is the best solution imo.
With no work no pay setup employers are not obliged to pay their employees though the situations / crisis force everything stop both employees and employers are not prepared to this situations, helping is also not prohibited and if you are caring with those people who are in need of your help employers will give something if ever they can't provide the whole amount they can still give or provide something just to survived.
Employers are really not obliged to pay their workers when they don't work, but workers didn't even want this to happen. They can still help their employees without harming or risking the fund of the companies. Perhaps they can find other ways to help them. I think a loan would also do.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Google+ on April 17, 2020, 08:11:25 AM
That's why it's very recommended to always have a side hustle even before the pandemic most employers have been doing this kind of thing to their employees. Just like in wayfair they've laid off over 500 workers just to hire new workers that accepts lower salary.

So these situations does not only occur in casino workers but also other businesses.
Though this is another story but yeah thats inhumane mate because kicking old employees with high salary and changing with another set of low paying people is against the rules of humanity.
and at any cost Employer is the one who must help their own people and not to make them suffer ,because Business is not only relying on proprietor but also with the effort and skills of employees.
indeed the skills of employees can be more value in a company but you must know that old workers who already have a lot of experience can also get out and get a lot of experience from the company and can apply anything that has been gained from the company while still working and for new people then the company will have employees who have the spirit and youth so that they can move quickly and a lot of product is created.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: kawetsriyanto on April 17, 2020, 09:32:44 AM
If I were a worker in those casinos who didn't give any help, I might just leave and find another company that would care with their employees.
Some people may think as you to consider leaving because disappointment but others may not as it is not easy to get a new job. In my country, leaving current job is the final decision. Most people won't consider it if they have no big problems because it is hard to find another job.

Other casino companies were able to help their employees but others can't.
It depends on the financial condition of the company. For a big company that has large fund reserves, they are probably able to help their employees. While other companies may have financial problems now since there are no work activities. So, it is understandable if the companies don't give any helps to the employees.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: erep on April 17, 2020, 11:05:27 AM
Some people may think as you to consider leaving because disappointment but others may not as it is not easy to get a new job. In my country, leaving current job is the final decision. Most people won't consider it if they have no big problems because it is hard to find another job.
In countries where the population is higher than the chance of getting a job, leaving work now will be unemployed. The Covid-19 has brought badness on earth that most companies decide to work unilaterally because the company does not have funds to finance employees so that some of them have experienced an economic crisis.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: ethereumhunter on April 17, 2020, 02:19:25 PM
Some people may think as you to consider leaving because disappointment but others may not as it is not easy to get a new job. In my country, leaving current job is the final decision. Most people won't consider it if they have no big problems because it is hard to find another job.
In countries where the population is higher than the chance of getting a job, leaving work now will be unemployed. The Covid-19 has brought badness on earth that most companies decide to work unilaterally because the company does not have funds to finance employees so that some of them have experienced an economic crisis.

Yes, that is what happens now in many countries. But the employee can try to ask the company about the salary, and I think the company will be fair enough to their employee to give the money to them. But the employee itself cannot expect to see the company will provide another salary in the next month because how the company will pay if they don't work at all while the employee is not work in their office too.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: plvbob0070 on April 17, 2020, 02:48:16 PM
If I were a worker in those casinos who didn't give any help, I might just leave and find another company that would care with their employees.
Some people may think as you to consider leaving because disappointment but others may not as it is not easy to get a new job. In my country, leaving current job is the final decision. Most people won't consider it if they have no big problems because it is hard to find another job.

Other casino companies were able to help their employees but others can't.
It depends on the financial condition of the company. For a big company that has large fund reserves, they are probably able to help their employees. While other companies may have financial problems now since there are no work activities. So, it is understandable if the companies don't give any helps to the employees.
I'm very aware of that situation. Yes, it's hard to find a stable job but I would not endure this kind of treatment.

The casino is the heart of Las Vegas, and for sure they are earning great revenue during the whole operation they had. Helping them doesn't necessarily mean they will provide them the things they need that may put the company at the disadvantage stage. As a company, it's good to put a nice image by helping your employees, but at the same time, most businesses would not want to lose money or increase their expenses by giving it to their employees. They could have just think of other ways to help them without risking their money. I have been saying this in the thread that they can give them their bonuses (Christmas or 13th-month) in advance, or providing loans. It means during the Christmas season, employees won't be receiving any, and/or when loaning, deduct it to their monthly salary after this lockdown.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: mindrust on April 17, 2020, 03:25:45 PM
Nobody would have expected that a pandemic like this would hit us so hard so quickly. To be honest, nobody was prepared for such a thing.
It's not just about casinos and it's employees but every industry is facing this troublesome situation.
It depends on the owners if they can afford to pay their employees or not. We can't blame the owners too since they will have to pay the bills and bare the loss anyway. It's good that despite this situation, there are some owners who are paying their employees but only prayers can help the rest.

I used to be ready for events like these. I had all of my money&gold out of the banking system and crypto exchanges. They used toe be all physical until last year or so. Then for some weird reason I started to take risks. Did some trades on exchanges, put the cash in a bank etc.

Hopefully this pandemic event will be an eye opener and a warning for everybody.

We should be ready for any bad event no matter how low the odds are.

The banking system can go down too and I am getting ready for that one no matter how ridiculous it seems right now.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Quidat on April 17, 2020, 03:35:07 PM
Some people may think as you to consider leaving because disappointment but others may not as it is not easy to get a new job. In my country, leaving current job is the final decision. Most people won't consider it if they have no big problems because it is hard to find another job.
In countries where the population is higher than the chance of getting a job, leaving work now will be unemployed. The Covid-19 has brought badness on earth that most companies decide to work unilaterally because the company does not have funds to finance employees so that some of them have experienced an economic crisis.
Its just normal to think that economic state of affected countries can gradually be seen and take note that we do still in few months of such lockdown or
quarantine but everything starts to mess up.Of course when theres no work then there would be no salary and come to think that government funds
arent unlimited which even if they do help out their citizens it wont really be sustainable of this one would go longer.

Help would be there but we know the reality that not all people would be catered or be given.It all varies or depend on a certain place governance.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: smyslov on April 18, 2020, 01:38:30 AM

$1200 amount is not enough for everyone but it is normal for daily food and needs. Maybe governments will restrict the companies to fire the employees due to the recent lockdown but the support should be kept for covering the needs of people. For keeping the minimum impact of the global recession, the workers should look for passive income, unfortunately.
Many businesses can't really keep up with the present situation, they can do it for one or two months but three months is just too much, especially for small gambling casinos but they must get help from the national government too, some countries are giving help to companies to help their employers since these companies are also taxpayers.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: LogitechMouse on April 18, 2020, 02:31:40 AM
That's why it's very recommended to always have a side hustle even before the pandemic most employers have been doing this kind of thing to their employees. Just like in wayfair they've laid off over 500 workers just to hire new workers that accepts lower salary.
Recommending a sideline for these employees isn't a good idea. There are some problems with this though.
1. They don't have enough time and energy to do it since they are working 8 hours a day. They feel stressed when they get home so even though they have enough time but they don't have the energy then it will be useless. Probably there are some who are doing this. Working for 8 hours a day and when they get home they will work again thru online.
2. Some of these employees doesn't have the time to do it because they are only one in their home. They have to do the things in their home that can eat their time most probably. This is somewhat related to the 1st one :D.

For me it would be better if you have skills that you can be use to work at home so that even though times like this will happen, you will not be affected that much as you can still work even you are at home as long as you have the internet and a computer to use. These pandemic didn't affect the casino workers only but all the employees who are working under different companies but the most affected here are the ones who doesn't have any savings to use in times like this :(.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: carlisle1 on April 18, 2020, 03:58:36 AM

$1200 amount is not enough for everyone but it is normal for daily food and needs. Maybe governments will restrict the companies to fire the employees due to the recent lockdown but the support should be kept for covering the needs of people. For keeping the minimum impact of the global recession, the workers should look for passive income, unfortunately.
Many businesses can't really keep up with the present situation, they can do it for one or two months but three months is just too much, especially for small gambling casinos but they must get help from the national government too, some countries are giving help to companies to help their employers since these companies are also taxpayers.
But we are talking about Casinos in "Las Vegas" mate and not small time casino but those best in the world so for sure they can sustain even the whole year of their employees but the problem is if the employer are ready to Help them out.

and also we know how much income these casino Gets daily and how Millions coming their accounts from weekly or monthly basis so how hard to help the people in just  2 months or more?
Gambling business is the most profitable among any business specially if the company is stable and popular.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: sunsilk on April 18, 2020, 05:09:24 AM
You'll actually see a company if they truly care for their employees. If they don't care at all, they only see their employees as a money-making machine and not part of the business. A caring employer treats their employees as part of the business and they are genuinely part of it.

I think it's Richard Branson's quote that I've seen who sees his employees as assets. Knowing that it's Vegas, they should help their people that's working hard for them. This is the reality, I also have a friend that works for a different industry and until now, no aid or even a "hey, how are you?" word from their recent employer.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: pakhitheboss on April 18, 2020, 05:49:55 AM
This is how business work!

They utilise an employee when they needed them the most and when these employee need the business to help them they just ignore them or throw them out.

As a human being this sounds bad but this is the truth. We need to live with it.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: angrybirdy on April 18, 2020, 07:23:07 AM
This is how business work!

They utilise an employee when they needed them the most and when these employee need the business to help them they just ignore them or throw them out.

As a human being this sounds bad but this is the truth. We need to live with it.
Yes, business as usual even in times like this when pandemic hit the world. This kind of business is only concerned with how they can earn more and they don't even have the slightest care about the one who is working with them.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Leviathan.007 on April 18, 2020, 09:09:44 AM
I'm sorry but we are not in haven and casino workers are not angels. they have their own problems and ofc they need the salary. like everyone in the world they have family, friends and kids to feed them. while you expect them to don't ask for salary how they must eat? and how they must live? This a task for every government to support people.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: LogitechMouse on April 18, 2020, 09:30:26 AM
I'm sorry but we are not in haven and casino workers are not angels. they have their own problems and ofc they need the salary. like everyone in the world they have family, friends and kids to feed them. while you expect them to don't ask for salary how they must eat? and how they must live? This a task for every government to support people.
I understand that the casinos have their own problems too as they are experiencing the same problem with their employees. Their business has closed therefore, they don't have any revenue for almost a month already.

I'm not expecting too for the casinos to give assistance to their employees but if they have the empathy then at least they can give some help to them even just some relief goods and a small amount of cash. I believe that casinos can get what they spent with that aspect but it will take time as the environment will not become normal yet when the virus has a cure already.

Well as for the employees, what is happening right now can be an eye opener for them to keep some of their salary as savings so that they have something to use in times like this.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: ethereumhunter on April 18, 2020, 09:39:18 AM
This is how business work!

They utilise an employee when they needed them the most and when these employee need the business to help them they just ignore them or throw them out.

As a human being this sounds bad but this is the truth. We need to live with it.
Yes, business as usual even in times like this when pandemic hit the world. This kind of business is only concerned with how they can earn more and they don't even have the slightest care about the one who is working with them.

Yes, maybe we need to find another job after this pandemic over, and we don't have to go back to them again if we feel they ignore the employee. At least, they can give some support for their employee so that the employee can feel better. I am sure that we can get another job because after it's over, many businesses will need to restart their business so they can operate as usual.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: btc78 on April 18, 2020, 09:43:04 AM
I'm sorry but we are not in haven and casino workers are not angels.
Casino workers?or casino owners?sorry but i am missing something in your post.
they have their own problems and ofc they need the salary. like everyone in the world they have family, friends and kids to feed them.
i still missing here if whom youa re addressing because OP's stand is for the favor of employees and not the employer.
while you expect them to don't ask for salary how they must eat? and how they must live? This a task for every government to support people.
who told you that this is government task to support people?yeah government needs to help their people but People also needs to be ready in this kind of crisis and don't let everything comes from the government,the problem here is People mostly not saving for their emergencies and if this happens all they blame is government.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Leviathan.007 on April 18, 2020, 09:57:38 AM
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I'm talking about the workers ofc as I wrote above clearly. because we all know in any bad situation like this the most venerable people are workers not the owners. The owner should collecting savings for these days ofc. But, what if they didn't? the worker should pay for it? I believe in this case government should help the workers. We can't blame workers for because of their CEO/manager didn't save any thing for these days.

who told you that this is government task to support people
That's why I pay tax!


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: plvbob0070 on April 18, 2020, 01:48:02 PM
This is how business work!

They utilise an employee when they needed them the most and when these employee need the business to help them they just ignore them or throw them out.

As a human being this sounds bad but this is the truth. We need to live with it.
Yes, business as usual even in times like this when pandemic hit the world. This kind of business is only concerned with how they can earn more and they don't even have the slightest care about the one who is working with them.

Yes, maybe we need to find another job after this pandemic over, and we don't have to go back to them again if we feel they ignore the employee. At least, they can give some support for their employee so that the employee can feel better. I am sure that we can get another job because after it's over, many businesses will need to restart their business so they can operate as usual.
If we receive that kind of treatment, we might think of leaving the company. But it is said in the article that some casino employers are giving their workers their "closing pay" forcing them to file unemployment. Which is kinda sad since they need the money more in this situation. But after this virus, instead of going back to work, they have no choice but to find another job.

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I'm talking about the workers ofc as I wrote above clearly. because we all know in any bad situation like this the most venerable people are workers not the owners. The owner should collecting savings for these days ofc. But, what if they didn't? the worker should pay for it? I believe in this case government should help the workers. We can't blame workers for because of their CEO/manager didn't save any thing for these days.

who told you that this is government task to support people
That's why I pay tax!
Yes, we have taxpayers' money that the government is using right now. In my country, they tend to prioritize the poorest of the poorest. So we don't expect that much, that we can get so much help from the government just because we are paying tax.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Betwrong on April 19, 2020, 12:36:50 PM
Offline casino entrepreneurs surely confused about this...
Paying employee salaries is a worker's obligation according to the wage and labor agreement but the current conditions are different. Workers do not work, as usual, not paying a full salary is the best solution imo.

I agree, depending on the country, some basic money should be given to workers so that they could buy food and necessities. But it's not an obligation of casino owners only. The owners should pay a part but another part should be paid by the government. Where all those taxes go, after all? It's partly to not let people die of hunger in times like these.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: bisdak40 on April 19, 2020, 09:05:46 PM
I'm sorry but we are not in haven and casino workers are not angels. they have their own problems and ofc they need the salary. like everyone in the world they have family, friends and kids to feed them. while you expect them to don't ask for salary how they must eat? and how they must live? This a task for every government to support people.

This really boils down to the capability of each country to provide the basic necessity to it's citizen. Per experience, here in our place the government  declares that they will only help the poorest of the poor since we have limited funds and they are also calling all of the elites to help in their own way. While i saw a vlog in the UK, the vlogger which is an employee of a university, he said that their government is refunding 80% of their salary while they are on a shutdown. Bottom line, help from the government is mandatory but varies on the capabilities also of that government. There are rich government while many also are poor.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: KTChampions on April 19, 2020, 09:19:25 PM
Offline casino entrepreneurs surely confused about this...
Paying employee salaries is a worker's obligation according to the wage and labor agreement but the current conditions are different. Workers do not work, as usual, not paying a full salary is the best solution imo.

I agree, depending on the country, some basic money should be given to workers so that they could buy food and necessities. But it's not an obligation of casino owners only. The owners should pay a part but another part should be paid by the government. Where all those taxes go, after all? It's partly to not let people die of hunger in times like these.

I think that a casino (or any other enterprise) should not pay at all during quarantine/state of emergency. This is a force majeure circumstance and here payments must be made by the government - this is its responsibility and duty. And we must not forget that the casino cannot print money from the air (even in emergency cases) and the government can.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Oilacris on April 19, 2020, 10:38:37 PM
I'm sorry but we are not in haven and casino workers are not angels. they have their own problems and ofc they need the salary. like everyone in the world they have family, friends and kids to feed them. while you expect them to don't ask for salary how they must eat? and how they must live? This a task for every government to support people.

This really boils down to the capability of each country to provide the basic necessity to it's citizen. Per experience, here in our place the government  declares that they will only help the poorest of the poor since we have limited funds and they are also calling all of the elites to help in their own way. While i saw a vlog in the UK, the vlogger which is an employee of a university, he said that their government is refunding 80% of their salary while they are on a shutdown. Bottom line, help from the government is mandatory but varies on the capabilities also of that government. There are rich government while many also are poor.
This is indeed the reality and we know that each country arent equal when it comes to financial aspect - where are poor and there a rich.
and thats why we do see different situations to those people who have been affected which do able to get some support and also to those
who havent get one.

Same here on my country where the poor had been prioritize and even to those who are on middle range status arent included to the list
to be given some help which is awful but quite understandable yet the help is much more needed for those who dont have any money
to buy their own food. Hopefully this wont last long...


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Becky666 on April 19, 2020, 11:02:13 PM
<snip>

Yes, business as usual even in times like this when pandemic hit the world. This kind of business is only concerned with how they can earn more and they don't even have the slightest care about the one who is working with them.

That's life mate, many are the employers that never wanted to see their employees progressing because this act will post a threat to them. Frankly speaking, these employees also need to be Carter for because they ate humans too. We all know how these guys make their money from gambling and should be responsible for the warfare of their employees. Hope that, the management of the involved gambling platform put into consideration the plight of their employees especially during this general lockdown.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: MCobian on April 19, 2020, 11:32:46 PM
In my opinion, casino owners should pay their employees salaries in difficult situations like now. Because of a crisis like now cooperation
is needed by all parties, it cannot just rely on government assistance. All casinos should, especially in America, be able to pay workers
even though they don't work. Because I believe the benefits gained by casino owners are huge.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Mahanton on April 19, 2020, 11:49:02 PM
<snip>

Yes, business as usual even in times like this when pandemic hit the world. This kind of business is only concerned with how they can earn more and they don't even have the slightest care about the one who is working with them.

That's life mate, many are the employers that never wanted to see their employees progressing because this act will post a threat to them. Frankly speaking, these employees also need to be Carter for because they ate humans too. We all know how these guys make their money from gambling and should be responsible for the warfare of their employees. Hope that, the management of the involved gambling platform put into consideration the plight of their employees especially during this general lockdown.
They can help but doesnt mean that they would be the one to sustain out their needs into this entire lockdown duration.There were site or business owners who are considerate
into the situation but most of them doesnt really care or does only give out a small portion of help.We cant generalize that all of them arent helping because for sure there are
some that do silently making such move. They cant really just asked for full-pay since we know that they arent working and business arent making any profits now due to lockdown.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: lienfaye on April 20, 2020, 02:23:08 AM
In my opinion, casino owners should pay their employees salaries in difficult situations like now. Because of a crisis like now cooperation
is needed by all parties, it cannot just rely on government assistance. All casinos should, especially in America, be able to pay workers
even though they don't work. Because I believe the benefits gained by casino owners are huge.
Yes but it is at their own dicretion. We cant coerce them to do so even owners are earning huge on their business. If they have concern to the employees there's no need to ask, during this time we can see those people that has a good intention to help because we know how hard the situation is.

Nevertheless its a must to save so you have money to count onnin times like this.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: skiorf on April 20, 2020, 03:58:39 AM
~snip~
In our country, the government are asking for employers to pay their employee a one month salary during the lock down and this is to help the employee in surviving the lock down. If the government in Las Vegas will do the same then it can surely help the employee to get their salary but if not the employee will have to wait for their employers whether they are kind enough to give some money to their affected employee.
this is indeed a difficult thing for the employer to do because basically the employer does not get the income and on the other hand, the employee asks for a salary. logically, who would like to pay the money to the employee?

In my place, there is no tolerance for this, when the lockdown is enforced, the employees are temporarily suspended until an unspecified time limit and do not get a payday unless they get help from the local government is not much, maybe just enough for two weeks to one month.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: carlisle1 on April 20, 2020, 04:02:40 AM
Offline casino entrepreneurs surely confused about this...
Paying employee salaries is a worker's obligation according to the wage and labor agreement but the current conditions are different. Workers do not work, as usual, not paying a full salary is the best solution imo.

I agree, depending on the country, some basic money should be given to workers so that they could buy food and necessities.
It is not mandatory and there is no specific amount,they will Give the amount they want to without any issue.
But it's not an obligation of casino owners only.
Exactly this is true,they are not oblige and will only Help depend on their desire and heart.
The owners should pay a part but another part should be paid by the government.
Yeah let the government do their part and the employers give if they want but never to force them.
Where all those taxes go, after all? It's partly to not let people die of hunger in times like these.
Taxes goes to the government projects,and there are many things that government is supporting even without this pandemic.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: verita1 on April 20, 2020, 08:01:53 AM
Two important things that the Coronavirus has revealed to humanity:
1) We are not prepared to face infectious diseases.
2) We cannot save or we do not worry about saving. After the Coronavirus, there will be substantial changes in the world population.

I have read in a post that Sheldon Adelson, owner of Las Vegas Sands, claims that he has paid his employees 2 months and he hopes to reopen his business when possible.

https://nypost.com/2020/04/01/adelson-im-paying-all-my-workers-for-2-months-so-should-any-business-that-can/ (https://nypost.com/2020/04/01/adelson-im-paying-all-my-workers-for-2-months-so-should-any-business-that-can/)

He has also donated 2M masks to health workers in NY, Nevada.
Due to the high rate of people infected with the Coronavirus in the USA, health centers are running out of protection kits for health professionals.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/31/sheldon-adelson-donates-2m-masks-to-heath-workers-in-new-york-nevada/ (https://nypost.com/2020/03/31/sheldon-adelson-donates-2m-masks-to-heath-workers-in-new-york-nevada/)


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: ethereumhunter on April 20, 2020, 10:27:55 AM
Yes, maybe we need to find another job after this pandemic over, and we don't have to go back to them again if we feel they ignore the employee. At least, they can give some support for their employee so that the employee can feel better. I am sure that we can get another job because after it's over, many businesses will need to restart their business so they can operate as usual.
If we receive that kind of treatment, we might think of leaving the company. But it is said in the article that some casino employers are giving their workers their "closing pay" forcing them to file unemployment. Which is kinda sad since they need the money more in this situation. But after this virus, instead of going back to work, they have no choice but to find another job.

Maybe after this, their life will be better if they can get another job and trying to forget the old place because they don't give supports to their employee. This moment forces everybody to be at home, and they need to figure out how they can survive from these situations so they will have a chance to get another opportunity in the future. Well, that is sad, but they cannot do anything except accepting.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: plvbob0070 on April 20, 2020, 01:26:04 PM
Two important things that the Coronavirus has revealed to humanity:
1) We are not prepared to face infectious diseases.
2) We cannot save or we do not worry about saving. After the Coronavirus, there will be substantial changes in the world population.
We will never be prepared for a sudden spread of a virus. Especially that there are people who are hard-headed. Even those developed countries with a great health care system, they are still greatly affected by this virus (even more cases than some third world country). It's hard to prepare for an unknown virus.

Not everyone is capable of saving money got emergency purposes because the living expense is much higher than their income.

Yes, maybe we need to find another job after this pandemic over, and we don't have to go back to them again if we feel they ignore the employee. At least, they can give some support for their employee so that the employee can feel better. I am sure that we can get another job because after it's over, many businesses will need to restart their business so they can operate as usual.
If we receive that kind of treatment, we might think of leaving the company. But it is said in the article that some casino employers are giving their workers their "closing pay" forcing them to file unemployment. Which is kinda sad since they need the money more in this situation. But after this virus, instead of going back to work, they have no choice but to find another job.

Maybe after this, their life will be better if they can get another job and trying to forget the old place because they don't give supports to their employee. This moment forces everybody to be at home, and they need to figure out how they can survive from these situations so they will have a chance to get another opportunity in the future. Well, that is sad, but they cannot do anything except accepting.
I just hope that those who were forced to file unemployment can find a stable job and an employer who will take care of their workers once there is an emergency.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: peter0425 on April 20, 2020, 02:17:42 PM
This is how business work!

They utilise an employee when they needed them the most and when these employee need the business to help them they just ignore them or throw them out.

As a human being this sounds bad but this is the truth. We need to live with it.
Yes, business as usual even in times like this when pandemic hit the world. This kind of business is only concerned with how they can earn more and they don't even have the slightest care about the one who is working with them.
But that is Business mate,that is also the reason why they are becoming richer each year because of their Love of Money and not their employees.
<snip>

Yes, business as usual even in times like this when pandemic hit the world. This kind of business is only concerned with how they can earn more and they don't even have the slightest care about the one who is working with them.

That's life mate, many are the employers that never wanted to see their employees progressing because this act will post a threat to them. Frankly speaking, these employees also need to be Carter for because they ate humans too. We all know how these guys make their money from gambling and should be responsible for the warfare of their employees. Hope that, the management of the involved gambling platform put into consideration the plight of their employees especially during this general lockdown.
They can help but doesnt mean that they would be the one to sustain out their needs into this entire lockdown duration.There were site or business owners who are considerate
into the situation but most of them doesnt really care or does only give out a small portion of help.We cant generalize that all of them arent helping because for sure there are
some that do silently making such move. They cant really just asked for full-pay since we know that they arent working and business arent making any profits now due to lockdown.
actually it is the employees obligation to gather funds for emergency like this and not blaming their employers because they are not giving them money.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: CarnagexD on April 20, 2020, 02:37:41 PM
There are a lot of people today are having some struggles into the world because of the pandemic coronavirus and one of these is our favorite casino we all know that the casino is one of the most crowded places there are a lot of people inside just to want to play gambling and most of the time there is no social distancing because some of them want to play, some of them are just watching some other players how they play and some of them are just visiting and exploring the place. But today casinos now are close because of the lockdown and we are avoiding that the outbreak will not spread rapidly and by that many people getting affected because they don't have enough money and some of their salary already used to pay their bills and other things needed immediately to pay and this is quite not good because some of them are lack of supplies still the thing they want to do is having salary while the business is shutdown it depends on the generosity of the owner if they will do that but I still hoping to set aside the hierarchy it is better to help people too.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: AakZaki on April 20, 2020, 02:48:34 PM
actually it is the employees obligation to gather funds for emergency like this and not blaming their employers because they are not giving them money.
In a job the employer is the king where they can manage everything, in circumstances like this where the company is required to temporarily close, and the company has no income so there is no obligation for employees to ask for salary in these circumstances, unless the employee is still working.

At my place there are already some companies that dismiss their employees while of course it does not get paid, until the employer allows him to work again.

Difficult indeed, when things happen like this do not have money saved.
Complain with others of course it becomes a complicated thing, it's important to have a deposit.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Captain Corporate on April 20, 2020, 02:59:42 PM

 Casino workers might be doing the right thing and they totally deserve to get paid during this period but we should not really forget about all workers, this is not about just the casino workers that are getting unpaid leaves, this is much bigger and everyone should be getting money during this period, if the companies can't manage to pay their workers during this period, governments should give them small loans to pay them with zero interest, if those companies can't pay the workers even with the loan, maybe nationlization is not a bad idea, just buy the company as a whole from the government and keep paying people until this is over and continue make it work afterwards for bigger profits in the long run. If companies do not want that to happen, maybe they could find a way to pay with the loans they get instead.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Zeke_23 on April 20, 2020, 03:09:44 PM
actually it is the employees obligation to gather funds for emergency like this and not blaming their employers because they are not giving them money.
It is true, however, how can you obliged an employee to gather funds in this kind of emergency, and what if their salary is only enough to support their daily needs, this will be hard for them. In times like this, employers should at least show that they care about their emplyees who work hard for them.



Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: TIDOVEE on April 20, 2020, 03:45:20 PM
Well! All this can be sorted with mutual understanding. The casino workers must have known how well the employers are making money or gain when work was fully on before they will insist on having salary, if the employers are not capable, they may not make the moves. This pandemic situation was not really prepared for by many. Though all fingers are still not equal because not all of them make money at the same rate. Not withstanding atleast, employers Should help with something since they had nowhere else to go.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Becky666 on April 20, 2020, 03:59:40 PM
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Yes, business as usual even in times like this when pandemic hit the world. This kind of business is only concerned with how they can earn more and they don't even have the slightest care about the one who is working with them.

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They can help but doesnt mean that they would be the one to sustain out their needs into this entire lockdown duration.

The argument here isn't those who are considerate but those who thought that, helping their employees isn't their responsibility to do so. According to OP, many of these casinos actually helped their employees while some said, isn't their obligation to help as the lockdown also affected their businesses, this isn't justifiable because those employees also need palliatives too. Okay, for those casinos that aren't paying salary to their employees during this lockdown, how do they intend to help their workers?. Gambling platforms around this industry are making huge profits and they should give back to their employees.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: TheGreatPython on April 20, 2020, 05:22:17 PM
This is basically how the physical casino business may end up dying in the end. They might just anger unions so much that unions basically have millions of dollars to fight back, one person who was wronged by a casino may not do much but a whole union could do a big damage and if the courts find them right that is even a bigger damage to casinos, all because they wanted to cut some corners and make a bit more profit when they were already making ton of profits.

Online gambling world is getting bigger and bigger anyway so there are less people going to casinos, with this type of war going on between workers and the casinos they worked at, it could cause them to lose a lot more customers to online casinos as well and they might get very small compared to what they used to be.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: desticy on April 20, 2020, 11:23:31 PM
It is very bad that the employers of the Casinos did not pay their employees. It is inhumane, in such a dire situation that the pandemic has struck, these Casino owners should help the working hand that has made them wealthy. Like all closed businesses today, they are massively laying off their employees. In the midst of all this, I have seen humanitarian aid that they have been sending food to them and also the Trump government has created a plan to send money to Americans in this chaos of Covid19.

Unfortunately this is the face of current capitalism. Around the world, many private organizations refuse to repel forced leave for their employees.
As for me, this perfectly shows the attitude of the organization towards the person who works for it.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Viscore on April 20, 2020, 11:36:13 PM
It is very bad that the employers of the Casinos did not pay their employees. It is inhumane, in such a dire situation that the pandemic has struck, these Casino owners should help the working hand that has made them wealthy. Like all closed businesses today, they are massively laying off their employees. In the midst of all this, I have seen humanitarian aid that they have been sending food to them and also the Trump government has created a plan to send money to Americans in this chaos of Covid19.

Unfortunately this is the face of current capitalism. Around the world, many private organizations refuse to repel forced leave for their employees.
As for me, this perfectly shows the attitude of the organization towards the person who works for it.


Organization does work based on their policy, therefore if it's not on their policy, it needs some big approval from the CEO or the high ranks of the company.
If they are just following based on their policy and the rules of the government, they should not be pressured here, giving aid to their employees is not their responsibility TBH, so employees should be aware of that, instead they have to learn how to save to prepare for an unforeseen situation.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: GDragon on April 20, 2020, 11:52:13 PM
It is very bad that the employers of the Casinos did not pay their employees. It is inhumane, in such a dire situation that the pandemic has struck, these Casino owners should help the working hand that has made them wealthy. Like all closed businesses today, they are massively laying off their employees. In the midst of all this, I have seen humanitarian aid that they have been sending food to them and also the Trump government has created a plan to send money to Americans in this chaos of Covid19.

Unfortunately this is the face of current capitalism. Around the world, many private organizations refuse to repel forced leave for their employees.
As for me, this perfectly shows the attitude of the organization towards the person who works for it.


Its really frustrating. A lot here said that it is not the companies responsibility, but I think it is. They need to ensure that the employees who just worked for them for years will be able to survive this pandemic so they can be back working for them again. They are the heart of the casino. Billionaires employers should care for them. The 2 weeks compensation they just received after the March lockdown won't be enough if this continues for months.

I can understand that some employees have safety nets but they should also consider that not anyone can save just because they can't, we all have different circumastances. The lockdown is over a month now. Bills are piling up and soon, their savings will be used too. Its not only in the gaming industry, but applicable to all industry.


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Geoconda Arguello-Kline, treasurer-secretary of the giant Las Vegas-based Culinary Union, called on major casino operators such as MGM Resorts and Caesars Entertainment to honor their “responsibility in this community.”



Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Lorence.xD on April 21, 2020, 05:57:08 AM
This is understandable, from different parts of the world there is surely a lot of people who are not working and that means no cash flow, you might be lucky if your employer implements a work from home but if not then that sucks, the good thing about it though is that government and private sector alike are doing their part in giving relief for their employees through finance stimulus and such. The sad thing about this is that it is a temporary fix to a problem that gets worse overtime, maybe increasing the effort in ending this pandemic is still the best bet (No pun intended).


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Debonaire217 on April 21, 2020, 06:35:53 AM
This is understandable, from different parts of the world there is surely a lot of people who are not working and that means no cash flow, you might be lucky if your employer implements a work from home but if not then that sucks,

I'm pretty sure that government has alloted a fund for crisis like this, and businesses should not just consider themselves having no cashflow inside of the company, but there is a responsibility for the government to convince businesses to provide salary in advance even if the employees aren't working to help them and support them with their living. But the problem here isn't the cashflow and business, there are some instances that some business outsource their services, in return, even if the company has the capability to provide salary, they are forced to deliver the services so people are tasked to work from home such as those that are in the call centers.


the good thing about it though is that government and private sector alike are doing their part in giving relief for their employees through finance stimulus and such. The sad thing about this is that it is a temporary fix to a problem that gets worse overtime, maybe increasing the effort in ending this pandemic is still the best bet (No pun intended).

The Government I can say is competent and knows how things work out but sometimes, the problem are the LGU's (Local Government Unit), specifically corrupts LGU's that aren't delivering the funds to the people.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: ethereumhunter on April 21, 2020, 11:19:16 AM
It is very bad that the employers of the Casinos did not pay their employees. It is inhumane, in such a dire situation that the pandemic has struck, these Casino owners should help the working hand that has made them wealthy. Like all closed businesses today, they are massively laying off their employees. In the midst of all this, I have seen humanitarian aid that they have been sending food to them and also the Trump government has created a plan to send money to Americans in this chaos of Covid19.

Unfortunately this is the face of current capitalism. Around the world, many private organizations refuse to repel forced leave for their employees.
As for me, this perfectly shows the attitude of the organization towards the person who works for it.


We cannot say anything if they did that, and we cannot force them to show kindness to other people. But I am sure that not all of them be like that. There will be a company that will care with their employee, and they will support them. And if we work with them, I think that will help us to survive at this moment because it is hard to find that such a company.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: JohnBitCo on April 21, 2020, 11:24:46 AM
It is very bad that the employers of the Casinos did not pay their employees. It is inhumane, in such a dire situation that the pandemic has struck, these Casino owners should help the working hand that has made them wealthy. Like all closed businesses today, they are massively laying off their employees. In the midst of all this, I have seen humanitarian aid that they have been sending food to them and also the Trump government has created a plan to send money to Americans in this chaos of Covid19.

Unfortunately this is the face of current capitalism. Around the world, many private organizations refuse to repel forced leave for their employees.
As for me, this perfectly shows the attitude of the organization towards the person who works for it.


We cannot say anything if they did that, and we cannot force them to show kindness to other people. But I am sure that not all of them be like that. There will be a company that will care with their employee, and they will support them. And if we work with them, I think that will help us to survive at this moment because it is hard to find that such a company.

This is a test for everyone both for the employers and the employees. Those kind hearted employers who will pay the salary when none or less work is done by the employees, they will be rewarded by the nature in some form in future. The good deeds never go wasted. It would be better if all of the employers are kind hearted and help their employees.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: casperBGD on April 21, 2020, 12:07:41 PM

actually it is the employees obligation to gather funds for emergency like this and not blaming their employers because they are not giving them money.

disagree, it should be employer obligation to have funds to protect his worker from leave in a case of emergency, it is a responsible business model, in a way you put it, all employees will be gone during the pandemic, and casino would not be able to open due to lack of workers, when time to open, or they will have to invest money to train new employees, it is the best business model to keep your employees, and protect them during crisis, because in good times you will not share bonuses like crazy, you will make your fund for situations like this


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Betwrong on April 21, 2020, 12:13:15 PM
Offline casino entrepreneurs surely confused about this...
Paying employee salaries is a worker's obligation according to the wage and labor agreement but the current conditions are different. Workers do not work, as usual, not paying a full salary is the best solution imo.

I agree, depending on the country, some basic money should be given to workers so that they could buy food and necessities. But it's not an obligation of casino owners only. The owners should pay a part but another part should be paid by the government. Where all those taxes go, after all? It's partly to not let people die of hunger in times like these.

I think that a casino (or any other enterprise) should not pay at all during quarantine/state of emergency. This is a force majeure circumstance and here payments must be made by the government - this is its responsibility and duty. And we must not forget that the casino cannot print money from the air (even in emergency cases) and the government can.

I'd rather agree with you because apart from the ability to print money they have funds from taxes, but the governments, they hardly would. Even regular people, like me and you, are saying that governments have many other things to spend their money on, apart from this pandemic, so surely the governments would defend such a viewpoint even more.

I think Sweden came up with a good solution to this problem.

As of 16 March 2020, it is also possible for employers to, under certain specific conditions, put employees on publicly funded short-term furlough. This publicly funded short-term furlough enables employers to cut their salary costs by up to 50%, while employees retain up to 90% of their salary.

Simply put, people, while sitting at home, are paid 50% of their salary by their employers and getting another 40% from the government.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: yazher on April 21, 2020, 12:29:40 PM
It is true, however, how can you obliged an employee to gather funds in this kind of emergency, and what if their salary is only enough to support their daily needs, this will be hard for them. In times like this, employers should at least show that they care about their emplyees who work hard for them.

The employer should have some kind of funds to give to their employees in order for them to help their guys. these employees are now in need of anything they can give them. of course, the first thing they must do is to go to their respective employers to ask for help because they're the ones who can help these guys in their financial problems. they can do like giving them their advanced 13-month pay to somehow survive this pandemic or something like that.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Sanitough on April 21, 2020, 12:43:33 PM

actually it is the employees obligation to gather funds for emergency like this and not blaming their employers because they are not giving them money.

disagree, it should be employer obligation to have funds to protect his worker from leave in a case of emergency, it is a responsible business model, in a way you put it, all employees will be gone during the pandemic, and casino would not be able to open due to lack of workers, when time to open, or they will have to invest money to train new employees, it is the best business model to keep your employees, and protect them during crisis, because in good times you will not share bonuses like crazy, you will make your fund for situations like this
It will only be a responsibility if the company are required to give to their employees, and it should be coming from the government order or law.
If there is no order from the government, then the company are in no responsibility providing that.

I'd like to reflect this kind of situation in my country, when we are in calamity, we can apply for a calamity loan to our social security system, it's an agency own by the government and we are a member of it when we are an employed, so we have contributions coming from our salary and bigger part is from our employer, so during calamity, employees will not anymore ask to their employers.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: South Park on April 21, 2020, 03:57:50 PM
This is happening all over the world and in all kind of industries, people were not prepared for this kind of event, most of the time it is recommended that people have at least 3 months worth of savings in the case they lose their job but very few people have that kind of money in store and now we are seeing the consequences of this, after just a few weeks of quarantine most people cannot take it anymore and they have to go out and try to get some money risking their health in the process, so while there is nothing we can do at the moment let this be a lesson to everyone out there, we need to have some savings just in case something like this happens again.

Therefore, we should be able to save as much as possible in our finances, I know that in times of crisis like this many are still experiencing the same thing and therefore we should be able to avoid gambling if there is no fixed salary because this pandemic will seem to last long.
At the moment I still have a fixed salary so for other extras I search this forum by gambling or trading anything that makes money in this forum. I will do it to get money for my needs, therefore I will reduce gambling and not too often. during this pandemic.
Unfortunately even if this is the right thing to do it is almost impossible to save money during an event like this since your expenses are going to go up as you buy stuff that you may need in the future just in case things get even worse, this is why it is really important to prepare ourselves beforehand so we are not caught off guard, in my country many jobs have been lost already and we are still far away of the end of the crisis so most people will get even more desperate as they find themselves out of their jobs and there is no possibility to get a new one.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: bitbunnny on April 21, 2020, 04:39:24 PM
Unfortunately, they are not the only one.
But it's not their fault they are not working, casinos are closed due to governments decisions because of pandemic. So, to my opinion they have the right to compensation and governments should help casinos to pay their employees.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on April 21, 2020, 04:50:25 PM
Unfortunately even if this is the right thing to do it is almost impossible to save money during an event like this since your expenses are going to go up as you buy stuff that you may need in the future just in case things get even worse, this is why it is really important to prepare ourselves beforehand so we are not caught off guard, in my country many jobs have been lost already and we are still far away of the end of the crisis so most people will get even more desperate as they find themselves out of their jobs and there is no possibility to get a new one.

Agree with this. Right now it is almost impossible to save any money. Even here in India (where the impact have been relatively muted), a huge number of people have lost their jobs. On top of that, the prices of essential items have gone up by quite a bit. It is like double whammy. First of all, you have less money available in hand, and secondly your expenses are going up.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: plvbob0070 on April 21, 2020, 04:52:57 PM
It is very bad that the employers of the Casinos did not pay their employees. It is inhumane, in such a dire situation that the pandemic has struck, these Casino owners should help the working hand that has made them wealthy. Like all closed businesses today, they are massively laying off their employees. In the midst of all this, I have seen humanitarian aid that they have been sending food to them and also the Trump government has created a plan to send money to Americans in this chaos of Covid19.

Unfortunately this is the face of current capitalism. Around the world, many private organizations refuse to repel forced leave for their employees.
As for me, this perfectly shows the attitude of the organization towards the person who works for it.

Some people at the top don't care what it feels like at the bottom since they already have everything they need. Everything they care about staying at the top. This just shows that some people really don't care about others even in a serious situation, as long as they are doing good.

You got my point. Though it's not worthy for us to debate about this because we all have our own perspective towards the employee-employer situation. Employers don't understand why they are asking for help, it's because they don't have any problem living during the lockdown. But not all employees can afford to live for a month without a source of income.


actually it is the employees obligation to gather funds for emergency like this and not blaming their employers because they are not giving them money.

disagree, it should be employer obligation to have funds to protect his worker from leave in a case of emergency, it is a responsible business model, in a way you put it, all employees will be gone during the pandemic, and casino would not be able to open due to lack of workers, when time to open, or they will have to invest money to train new employees, it is the best business model to keep your employees, and protect them during crisis, because in good times you will not share bonuses like crazy, you will make your fund for situations like this
Every employee or even us is responsible for our own expenses. We still have the responsibility to feed ourselves and our family. But companies should also consider that not everyone is like them. Not every employee can save up for emergencies. Sometimes people's salary is just enough to budget their living expenses. It's a worker's right to receive a benefit and help from their employers during calamity and emergency.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: KTChampions on April 21, 2020, 07:25:45 PM
In my opinion, casino owners should pay their employees salaries in difficult situations like now. Because of a crisis like now cooperation
is needed by all parties, it cannot just rely on government assistance. All casinos should, especially in America, be able to pay workers
even though they don't work. Because I believe the benefits gained by casino owners are huge.

Most businesses in the modern world are built on loans. You propose to burn assets (paying salaries to people who do not work and do not bring any profit) to what state of the business? Until complete bankruptcy? Or is there some reasonable point where you should stop and understand that if there is no work then there is no payment for it. The state should solve such global problems, and not business owners.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: dunfida on April 21, 2020, 11:43:08 PM
In my opinion, casino owners should pay their employees salaries in difficult situations like now. Because of a crisis like now cooperation
is needed by all parties, it cannot just rely on government assistance. All casinos should, especially in America, be able to pay workers
even though they don't work. Because I believe the benefits gained by casino owners are huge.

Most businesses in the modern world are built on loans. You propose to burn assets (paying salaries to people who do not work and do not bring any profit) to what state of the business? Until complete bankruptcy? Or is there some reasonable point where you should stop and understand that if there is no work then there is no payment for it. The state should solve such global problems, and not business owners.

You are right, they dont really consider on business owners side in regards to that matter where it not really that possible that they should obliged themselves
on supporting their employees in times like these.I wont believe in much though that gambling casino owners are in loan yet this is indeed a big business, there might
be some but most of them do succeed and profitable but i dont see the point that they would be responsible on such aide.This is governments issue or concern
not to business owners.They can donate or help but for some portion and not a permanent one.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: LogitechMouse on April 22, 2020, 12:48:16 AM
Unfortunately even if this is the right thing to do it is almost impossible to save money during an event like this since your expenses are going to go up as you buy stuff that you may need in the future just in case things get even worse, this is why it is really important to prepare ourselves beforehand so we are not caught off guard, in my country many jobs have been lost already and we are still far away of the end of the crisis so most people will get even more desperate as they find themselves out of their jobs and there is no possibility to get a new one.
Why will you save money "DURING" the pandemic?? You should save your money "BEFORE" an event like this will happen.

This is the problem of most workers out there. In my country, jobs also has been lost and some of the small businesses maybe will close even after this pandemic because of lack of revenue. Here also in my country, less than 50% of the people have banks so what do you expect then. Those who have savings will not be experiencing difficulties that much because they have money to spend in times like this. For those who doesn't have savings then maybe after this crisis they will learn how to save now for the next one.

No cure = No end. Will wait for the cure and most likely it will happen 2nd half of the year but it is not sure yet since many are in clinical trials already.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Natalim on April 22, 2020, 11:09:46 AM
Most businesses in the modern world are built on loans. You propose to burn assets (paying salaries to people who do not work and do not bring any profit) to what state of the business? Until complete bankruptcy? Or is there some reasonable point where you should stop and understand that if there is no work then there is no payment for it.
You seem to be knowledgeable enough, until I read this, I did will not realize that what you are saying is true.
Personally I was able to work in a big company in our country having a good position and I there understand that although our company is successful enough but we still have a lot of loans in the bank, and our properties are the collateral of the loan, and I think this is what the businessman are really doing to expand their business fast.


The state should solve such global problems, and not business owners.

Completely agree, what's the reason of paying taxes if they can't help people.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: peter0425 on April 22, 2020, 12:45:28 PM

actually it is the employees obligation to gather funds for emergency like this and not blaming their employers because they are not giving them money.

disagree, it should be employer obligation to have funds to protect his worker from leave in a case of emergency,
Who told you that?it is our obligation as Employee to provide for our needs and it is not our employers because they are paying us for our works and in time of leave we must have our saved funds because we must be aware that time like this will happen if we are a responsible person.
it is a responsible business model,
you have already mentioned that here,it is just to be a MODEL but they are not Obliged to do it because it is their own prerogative .
in a way you put it, all employees will be gone during the pandemic, and casino would not be able to open due to lack of workers, when time to open, or they will have to invest money to train new employees,
Of course if that is the only way to fulfill the business needs?then why not re hire others and train them as that?
it is the best business model to keep your employees, and protect them during crisis, because in good times you will not share bonuses like crazy, you will make your fund for situations like this
again this is not their obligation mate that is my Point but i never said that Employers must abandoned their employees in this kind of time because i myself is doing some helps now in my own little ways.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on April 26, 2020, 01:20:40 PM
Completely agree, what's the reason of paying taxes if they can't help people.

That is a very weak argument and you know it. The government can't send freebies to everyone. Those who are on top of the priority list will get the first preference. And you need to remember that the global economies are under severe recession. The government revenues are down, and there is a limit to what they can do here. And also, they need to spend a lot of their funds to keep the pandemic in check.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: South Park on April 26, 2020, 03:55:04 PM
Unfortunately even if this is the right thing to do it is almost impossible to save money during an event like this since your expenses are going to go up as you buy stuff that you may need in the future just in case things get even worse, this is why it is really important to prepare ourselves beforehand so we are not caught off guard, in my country many jobs have been lost already and we are still far away of the end of the crisis so most people will get even more desperate as they find themselves out of their jobs and there is no possibility to get a new one.

Agree with this. Right now it is almost impossible to save any money. Even here in India (where the impact have been relatively muted), a huge number of people have lost their jobs. On top of that, the prices of essential items have gone up by quite a bit. It is like double whammy. First of all, you have less money available in hand, and secondly your expenses are going up.
This is happening in my country as well and like always the most affected by this are those that have very little as the small amount of money they have buys even less stuff than just a few months ago, this is why I think nothing is going to be the same after this crisis, things are going to change, I hope things change for the better and that people now understand that they cannot plan their finances expecting everything to be fine all the time, they need to have some savings to spare in the case there is some kind of crisis, but I doubt most people will do anything to prepare even after the current crisis is over.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Casdinyard on April 26, 2020, 05:07:17 PM
Completely agree, what's the reason of paying taxes if they can't help people.

That is a very weak argument and you know it. The government can't send freebies to everyone. Those who are on top of the priority list will get the first preference. And you need to remember that the global economies are under severe recession. The government revenues are down, and there is a limit to what they can do here. And also, they need to spend a lot of their funds to keep the pandemic in check.
At some point you are correct but also bear in mind that the government especially democratic ones are being ruled by its people, not their personal stuffs or some sort of it. I don't see anything wrong from people seeking government's help at all, in fact that is their job to keep these people alive most especially in times like this. I get it, government's revenue is down since no one's working for them but every country has its asset, stocked and owned so they can easily sell it to some private individuals. But if the virus continue for 8 months, that's the time that every one should be hustlin' in legal ways at least.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: cabron on April 26, 2020, 05:25:32 PM
Completely agree, what's the reason of paying taxes if they can't help people.

That is a very weak argument and you know it. The government can't send freebies to everyone. Those who are on top of the priority list will get the first preference. And you need to remember that the global economies are under severe recession. The government revenues are down, and there is a limit to what they can do here. And also, they need to spend a lot of their funds to keep the pandemic in check.
At some point you are correct but also bear in mind that the government especially democratic ones are being ruled by its people, not their personal stuffs or some sort of it. I don't see anything wrong from people seeking government's help at all, in fact that is their job to keep these people alive most especially in times like this. I get it, government's revenue is down since no one's working for them but every country has its asset, stocked and owned so they can easily sell it to some private individuals. But if the virus continue for 8 months, that's the time that every one should be hustlin' in legal ways at least.

They can ask for help from Canada. They weren't very much affected by the virus as far as the media said. Everyone had suffered the same fate while the virus still isn't yet controlled. And if it's going to take up to 8 months, it will all be chaos there as people will have nothing to eat. 

The mayor was trying to re-open vegas just recently but the union was also the ones who didn't approve this one. Re-opening Casino just isn't the solution since it will just worsen the corona pandemic. Tough time to be a politician today.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: South Park on April 30, 2020, 04:37:34 PM
Completely agree, what's the reason of paying taxes if they can't help people.

That is a very weak argument and you know it. The government can't send freebies to everyone. Those who are on top of the priority list will get the first preference. And you need to remember that the global economies are under severe recession. The government revenues are down, and there is a limit to what they can do here. And also, they need to spend a lot of their funds to keep the pandemic in check.
At some point you are correct but also bear in mind that the government especially democratic ones are being ruled by its people, not their personal stuffs or some sort of it. I don't see anything wrong from people seeking government's help at all, in fact that is their job to keep these people alive most especially in times like this. I get it, government's revenue is down since no one's working for them but every country has its asset, stocked and owned so they can easily sell it to some private individuals. But if the virus continue for 8 months, that's the time that every one should be hustlin' in legal ways at least.
In a perfect world things should work like that, in times of need government should be able to help their population but most governments do not hold large amount of savings and any help that they may send to people is going to come from printing money and we know that this has a damaging effect over the long term on the economy, also the amount of help that they could send is going to be very limited and this crisis is not going to be resolved until a vaccine is found and that is not going to happen in this year.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: onrise on April 30, 2020, 04:42:59 PM
Unfortunately, they are not the only one.
But it's not their fault they are not working, casinos are closed due to governments decisions because of pandemic. So, to my opinion they have the right to compensation and governments should help casinos to pay their employees.

This is something which across industries people and workers would be facing it as it is nobody fault neither the owners nor the employees. Now who would help the people is what is the question as some of the owners can make some payment and some may not be able to do it. Now how much government can bail out them is the question as even man countries does not have stimulus money to offer the package to various industries. In the end it is common people who may suffer from it.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: hahay on April 30, 2020, 05:22:41 PM
When lockdown is applied then I don't think there is anything more that can be expected even at the company where we work, because even though the company has a reserve fund that can at least provide to its employees but still, no matter how much the reserve fund owned in the end will not be sufficient to cover every necessities of life for all employees during this lockdown. So in this case I don't think we can complain only to the company, because the main problem is clear because of the outbreak of this virus and we also as employees or workers must be aware of the problems that occur because after we realize we are in a time of global crisis which will all become difficult.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: cabron on April 30, 2020, 06:37:06 PM
When lockdown is applied then I don't think there is anything more that can be expected even at the company where we work, because even though the company has a reserve fund that can at least provide to its employees but still, no matter how much the reserve fund owned in the end will not be sufficient to cover every necessities of life for all employees during this lockdown. So in this case I don't think we can complain only to the company, because the main problem is clear because of the outbreak of this virus and we also as employees or workers must be aware of the problems that occur because after we realize we are in a time of global crisis which will all become difficult.

EVeryone is aware of the sitaution. TIs just pity that we right now are not prepared for it. The last plague was more than decades ago and we already thought it won't happen again because of the techonogy improvements. Its hard to believe there is no vaccine yet actually.

You would hve to wonder when all these scientists today are hurrying to document what they discover a tiny piece of shits for legacy now this virus seem to make them slacky sleep.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: carlfebz2 on April 30, 2020, 07:47:21 PM
When lockdown is applied then I don't think there is anything more that can be expected even at the company where we work, because even though the company has a reserve fund that can at least provide to its employees but still, no matter how much the reserve fund owned in the end will not be sufficient to cover every necessities of life for all employees during this lockdown. So in this case I don't think we can complain only to the company, because the main problem is clear because of the outbreak of this virus and we also as employees or workers must be aware of the problems that occur because after we realize we are in a time of global crisis which will all become difficult.

EVeryone is aware of the sitaution. TIs just pity that we right now are not prepared for it. The last plague was more than decades ago and we already thought it won't happen again because of the techonogy improvements. Its hard to believe there is no vaccine yet actually.

You would hve to wonder when all these scientists today are hurrying to document what they discover a tiny piece of shits for legacy now this virus seem to make them slacky sleep.
Thats what you called nothing can predict on what would be the future be like.Technology does progress but doesnt mean that it can solved out everything fast incase there are instances just like on what happened now.
Nothing on this world does have corresponding cure or solutions but somewhat this era is much more better if we do compare into the past where technology isnt developed too much.
On this situation in talks of casino workers salary support then i dont think that it would really be a mandated nor a responsibility by its owners yet since theres no work then its normal for them to have no salary
but the owner can consider on giving out some temporary help but doesnt mean that it would be on constant basis.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Kasabus on May 01, 2020, 10:52:22 AM
The pandemic situation is temporary but it has taught the CEO a gold lesson about the new world work conditions.
There is no new world, things are just temporary and people are just smart enough to find ways to adopt with the current situation while  still trying to continue their business, the casino world (physical) will boom again in the future, and that's when the pandemic is over, let's just think that it's a part when they struggle but they'll recover soon.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: DarkDays on May 01, 2020, 11:06:34 AM
Unfortunately, they are not the only one.
But it's not their fault they are not working, casinos are closed due to governments decisions because of pandemic. So, to my opinion they have the right to compensation and governments should help casinos to pay their employees.

I disagree.

I don't think it's the employers responsibility to pay their staff during the epidemic. Why would they?

They pay their staff for their services, e.g. serving patrons, maintaining security etc. If they are not providing these services, why should they be paid?

This is 100% on the government, not the individual businesses and corps that are losing customers. If companies are forced to pay employees now, they'll be bankrupt by the time everything reopens in a few months.

That would not solve anything long-term.



Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Clark05 on May 01, 2020, 12:16:08 PM
When lockdown is applied then I don't think there is anything more that can be expected even at the company where we work, because even though the company has a reserve fund that can at least provide to its employees but still, no matter how much the reserve fund owned in the end will not be sufficient to cover every necessities of life for all employees during this lockdown. So in this case I don't think we can complain only to the company, because the main problem is clear because of the outbreak of this virus and we also as employees or workers must be aware of the problems that occur because after we realize we are in a time of global crisis which will all become difficult.
It is very hard for us on what we are situation right now and I hope if the gambling casino like that help their employees because they parr also why the gambling casino become successful without them who gonna assist to the players and I think it's good to pay back them in this situation but it is only my decision but it's still depends on them what is their decision.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: inanilujimi on May 01, 2020, 12:21:02 PM
many people are experiencing the effects of this pandemic, especially the food industry and many employees are laid off from work, we can only hope that this pandemic ends soon and life returns to normal again.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: finaleshot2016 on May 01, 2020, 01:04:49 PM
When lockdown is applied then I don't think there is anything more that can be expected even at the company where we work, because even though the company has a reserve fund that can at least provide to its employees but still, no matter how much the reserve fund owned in the end will not be sufficient to cover every necessities of life for all employees during this lockdown. So in this case I don't think we can complain only to the company, because the main problem is clear because of the outbreak of this virus and we also as employees or workers must be aware of the problems that occur because after we realize we are in a time of global crisis which will all become difficult.
It is very hard for us on what we are situation right now and I hope if the gambling casino like that help their employees because they parr also why the gambling casino become successful without them who gonna assist to the players and I think it's good to pay back them in this situation but it is only my decision but it's still depends on them what is their decision.
Business minded and greedy management doesn't act that way. Perhaps some of them believe that their employees, even in high-class places, are peasants. It is quite unlikely, I guess, to accept the proposal of these workers because the casino sites are all in a low-profit economy.

But still, I hope those request will gonna be fulfilled by the management since they're the one who makes the business into high-class.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: LogitechMouse on May 01, 2020, 01:24:40 PM
When lockdown is applied then I don't think there is anything more that can be expected even at the company where we work, because even though the company has a reserve fund that can at least provide to its employees but still, no matter how much the reserve fund owned in the end will not be sufficient to cover every necessities of life for all employees during this lockdown. So in this case I don't think we can complain only to the company, because the main problem is clear because of the outbreak of this virus and we also as employees or workers must be aware of the problems that occur because after we realize we are in a time of global crisis which will all become difficult.
No one expected this to happen though.

They've said it already. Many aren't prepared for this and this includes the workers/employees. We know for a fact that some of the employees are like happy-go-lucky when they got their salary. They don't keep some of their salaries for emergency funds. If they have did it then they will not complain on the employers or in this case the casino owner. If they just kept some money then they will not say that they need their salary or at least give some goods for them.

Its hard to believe there is no vaccine yet actually.
It's a new strain of Corona Virus so it is expected that there are no virus nor vaccine for it at this moment. Scientists are doing everything to make impossible things like having a perfect cure for it in around 12-18 months. This sounds long but that is the shortest time possible that scientists can create a cure for a new virus unless they will do it this time in a shorter time then it will be better. Not hard to believe for me so lets just wait for the cure :).


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: virasog on May 01, 2020, 01:37:44 PM
many people are experiencing the effects of this pandemic, especially the food industry and many employees are laid off from work, we can only hope that this pandemic ends soon and life returns to normal again.

As the lockdown gets extended more and more people and businesses will suffer. People are losing their jobs and businesses are coming to an end. Since physically casino are closed too, the owners have only two options either to dismiss their employees or deduct  their salaries. I think the 2nd option is much better as employees have hope to resume the work when this pandemic is over.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Maslate on May 01, 2020, 02:04:38 PM
many people are experiencing the effects of this pandemic, especially the food industry and many employees are laid off from work, we can only hope that this pandemic ends soon and life returns to normal again.

As the lockdown gets extended more and more people and businesses will suffer. People are losing their jobs and businesses are coming to an end. Since physically casino are closed too, the owners have only two options either to dismiss their employees or deduct  their salaries.
If they will resume, they don't need to dismiss the people, but probably there will be a reduction of manpower as I believe the demand will not be as good as before the covid-19, a business that requires big crowd to make money is not good when the virus is still not contain.


I think the 2nd option is much better as employees have hope to resume the work when this pandemic is over.

Like I said, there might be some reduction of employees, casino industry, the physical once will struggle as the economy will not be back easily to its good state.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Savemore on May 01, 2020, 03:10:03 PM
many people are experiencing the effects of this pandemic, especially the food industry and many employees are laid off from work, we can only hope that this pandemic ends soon and life returns to normal again.

As the lockdown gets extended more and more people and businesses will suffer. People are losing their jobs and businesses are coming to an end. Since physically casino are closed too, the owners have only two options either to dismiss their employees or deduct  their salaries. I think the 2nd option is much better as employees have hope to resume the work when this pandemic is over.
We cannot do about that because it is one of the way to stop the spreading of the virus. Yes there are many people who suffering because of the quarantine but if the governments around the world will not do that, there will be a major catastrophe that may happen. Most of casinos are closed nowadays and many of their employees are part of the no work no pay, I think the problem is their management where their employees should receive equal salary.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: mindrust on May 01, 2020, 04:25:24 PM
many people are experiencing the effects of this pandemic, especially the food industry and many employees are laid off from work, we can only hope that this pandemic ends soon and life returns to normal again.

As the lockdown gets extended more and more people and businesses will suffer. People are losing their jobs and businesses are coming to an end. Since physically casino are closed too, the owners have only two options either to dismiss their employees or deduct  their salaries. I think the 2nd option is much better as employees have hope to resume the work when this pandemic is over.

What if the pandemic doesn't go away soon though? That would fck everybody up both the employer and the employee. Many people don't think about tht possibility but I think it is always better to be prepared for the worst case scenario.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: finaleshot2016 on May 01, 2020, 06:56:27 PM
many people are experiencing the effects of this pandemic, especially the food industry and many employees are laid off from work, we can only hope that this pandemic ends soon and life returns to normal again.

As the lockdown gets extended more and more people and businesses will suffer. People are losing their jobs and businesses are coming to an end. Since physically casino are closed too, the owners have only two options either to dismiss their employees or deduct  their salaries. I think the 2nd option is much better as employees have hope to resume the work when this pandemic is over.
What if the pandemic doesn't go away soon though? That would fck everybody up both the employer and the employee. Many people don't think about tht possibility but I think it is always better to be prepared for the worst case scenario.
It's certainly. I fear it's going to destroy the bulk of people's lives. That's why it's important to have savings when there's an emergency, the money should always give priority to needs, not comfort. Staff, particularly low-wage employees, would have a tough position in which to cope with the damages incurred by the pandemic. Not just the workers, but the owner of the business, who also suffers a lot, it's hard to start all over again.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: carlfebz2 on May 01, 2020, 07:53:01 PM
many people are experiencing the effects of this pandemic, especially the food industry and many employees are laid off from work, we can only hope that this pandemic ends soon and life returns to normal again.

As the lockdown gets extended more and more people and businesses will suffer. People are losing their jobs and businesses are coming to an end. Since physically casino are closed too, the owners have only two options either to dismiss their employees or deduct  their salaries. I think the 2nd option is much better as employees have hope to resume the work when this pandemic is over.
What if the pandemic doesn't go away soon though? That would fck everybody up both the employer and the employee. Many people don't think about tht possibility but I think it is always better to be prepared for the worst case scenario.
It's certainly. I fear it's going to destroy the bulk of people's lives. That's why it's important to have savings when there's an emergency, the money should always give priority to needs, not comfort. Staff, particularly low-wage employees, would have a tough position in which to cope with the damages incurred by the pandemic. Not just the workers, but the owner of the business, who also suffers a lot, it's hard to start all over again.
It messes up everything and if this one would go further then it will really be a devastating scenario that cant really be handled out well even how much money you do have as a business owner.
Savings is a must but people do neglect this basic thing thats why when these kind of time or situations then we would really be having a hard time on how we gonna handle out ourselves
specially where needs should really be seek on.This isnt only applied on this business but in other things as well.We are indeed all affected with this pandemic and we do really
need that vaccine but for now we should really save money as much as we can to survive.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: GDragon on May 02, 2020, 03:03:35 AM
Its hard to believe there is no vaccine yet actually.
It's a new strain of Corona Virus so it is expected that there are no virus nor vaccine for it at this moment. Scientists are doing everything to make impossible things like having a perfect cure for it in around 12-18 months. This sounds long but that is the shortest time possible that scientists can create a cure for a new virus unless they will do it this time in a shorter time then it will be better. Not hard to believe for me so lets just wait for the cure :).

Yup, its even a great achievement if they really made one in just 12-18 months. It really takes a lot of time for a vaccine to be created. The vaccine for the ebola virus was created in 5 years, and sad to say its the fastest-developed vaccine ever. I think what makes it hard is because the Corona virus is still mysterious in terms of how it affects our immune system. Have you heard about the news in South korea about those reinfected ones? Quite scary. I thought there's immunity after you get one. So its really takes time, its crucial to create a safe and effective one.

About the topic, employers would say that their employees are not their responsibility, however, isn't it best to show care to the people who work for them? They may not really gave everyone their full salary but its enough if they can do something for those employees who are really suffering. So after this pandemic, their employees would be able to go back to their work.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Reatim on May 02, 2020, 04:37:38 AM
many people are experiencing the effects of this pandemic, especially the food industry and many employees are laid off from work, we can only hope that this pandemic ends soon and life returns to normal again.
What food industry are you referring mate?if this is about food chains and restaurants yeah there is a Bad effect because workers are having difficulties since No work no pay is indeed.

But those Food industries in form of packaging and ready to eat foods?they are the most in demand now because on them people are relying now and also those relief packages are coming from those industries.



Regarding OP?this is debatable because usually we as employees are the one who must provide foods in our table but this is a different scenario because people are forced to stop working and not their decisions or not being lazy so the employers must have consideration and Help them out first just for now,they can even charge them in the future but now?they need foods in table .


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: maydna on May 02, 2020, 07:05:30 AM
I hope each government will find a solution for their citizen. Many people now need food for their life, but they cannot buy because they don't have money. The company cannot pay them anymore because the company cannot make money right now. If the government can distribute the food to their people, that can help them to survive in this pandemic, but I am worried if the pandemic will stay for a few months later.

Some charities out there are invited people who want to donate to help other people who really needed food and drink, so at least, people can eat something to survive. I hope every worker in all countries can get their daily needs, so they don't ask their salary to their company because this situation is difficult for all people. I hope that many people can get help from that program, and many people will donate to help each other.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: plvbob0070 on May 02, 2020, 09:52:31 AM
Regarding OP?this is debatable because usually we as employees are the one who must provide foods in our table but this is a different scenario because people are forced to stop working and not their decisions or not being lazy so the employers must have consideration and Help them out first just for now,they can even charge them in the future but now?they need foods in table .
That's the thing. We are not ready when this happened, most people who only have enough income, wasn't able to prepare for this emergency. Even if employers have no obligation to others' lives, and that we are the ones that should be feeding our family, can't they give a little consideration for their employees. That's why their company should give them help even the smallest one.

I hope each government will find a solution for their citizen. Many people now need food for their life, but they cannot buy because they don't have money. The company cannot pay them anymore because the company cannot make money right now. If the government can distribute the food to their people, that can help them to survive in this pandemic, but I am worried if the pandemic will stay for a few months later.

Some charities out there are invited people who want to donate to help other people who really needed food and drink, so at least, people can eat something to survive. I hope every worker in all countries can get their daily needs, so they don't ask their salary to their company because this situation is difficult for all people. I hope that many people can get help from that program, and many people will donate to help each other.
We should be expecting help from the government but looking at the interview of the mayor of Las Vegas, wanting every business to re-open, would you even think that she's worried about her people? I don't think so. I just hope that workers can survive the quarantine and this pandemic.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Saisher on May 02, 2020, 11:35:35 AM

Regarding OP?this is debatable because usually we as employees are the one who must provide foods in our table but this is a different scenario because people are forced to stop working and not their decisions or not being lazy so the employers must have consideration and Help them out first just for now,they can even charge them in the future but now?they need foods in table .
Yes if they cannot keep up anymore giving dole out, they should lend their workers money and just pay after this pandemic is over, this pandemic will not reach a year it will only take several months, these casino companies has savings that they can lend to their workers at this point of time.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Venik on May 02, 2020, 02:13:37 PM
i can't really imagine that owners of all those casinos and hotels don't have enough money to pay out employees' salaries. they are just too greedy!


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: pilosopotasyo on May 02, 2020, 02:49:06 PM

Although it's awful that some successful casino owners and management forget to protect and help their employees who helped them to become successful, some casino owners were able to send help and give their employees the salary they need. Perhaps they don't care about their employees' financial struggle because they have a lot of money, and they can survive the whole lockdown with that money.

It's their responsibility to give them a salary even if the business is closed. They should be prepared in times like this, and for sure they have an emergency fund to provide their employees. It's only a simple sacrifice for the employees who have been working for them every day.

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https://news.mb.com.ph/2020/04/10/las-vegas-casino-workers-abandoned-in-ghost-town/




Workers rights are protected in every country employers should advance salary to their workers or they can even advance their Christmas or thirteenth-month pay, or they can loan their workers but it should be zero interest, they have made a lot of money it's just right that they give their workers a share of their income at times like this.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: maydna on May 03, 2020, 05:28:48 AM
~snip~
We should be expecting help from the government but looking at the interview of the mayor of Las Vegas, wanting every business to re-open, would you even think that she's worried about her people? I don't think so. I just hope that workers can survive the quarantine and this pandemic.

No, I don't think so. She only wants to make the economy works as usual, but she doesn't believe what the dangers of the virus, especially if the virus is infecting her people. We hope that she will be enlightened and she can care with her people, and the workers can survive until the pandemic is gone.


Regarding OP?this is debatable because usually we as employees are the one who must provide foods in our table but this is a different scenario because people are forced to stop working and not their decisions or not being lazy so the employers must have consideration and Help them out first just for now,they can even charge them in the future but now?they need foods in table .
Yes if they cannot keep up anymore giving dole out, they should lend their workers money and just pay after this pandemic is over, this pandemic will not reach a year it will only take several months, these casino companies has savings that they can lend to their workers at this point of time.

Lending their workers money is not a solution because their workers should pay back the money in the future. How their workers can pay back if they cannot make money from anywhere? That will need a kindness from the casino companies to give something like support for their workers because their workers already help their company to operate so they can make money before.

I think if they can do that, it's like a mutual symbiosis between the owner and the workers, and I am sure that there will be a bond between them that will make them carrying each other.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: peter0425 on May 03, 2020, 06:03:38 AM


Lending their workers money is not a solution because their workers should pay back the money in the future. How their workers can pay back if they cannot make money from anywhere?
They can have a terms at least paying a little each payday is more than enough as it is a Help and not a given money.
That will need a kindness from the casino companies to give something like support for their workers because their workers already help their company to operate so they can make money before.
but it is their not obligation that is the sad reality in here and if we will push that then nothing will happen in favor of both sides.
I think if they can do that, it's like a mutual symbiosis between the owner and the workers, and I am sure that there will be a bond between them that will make them carrying each other.
employees has no choice because they are being paid for their Job,if they will add some personal on this for sure they will be kicked our their works.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: maydna on May 03, 2020, 10:29:43 AM
Lending their workers money is not a solution because their workers should pay back the money in the future. How their workers can pay back if they cannot make money from anywhere?
They can have a terms at least paying a little each payday is more than enough as it is a Help and not a given money.

That will depend on the owner. If the owner really cares with their workers, they will give some money or food to them as a donation because they work in their place.

That will need a kindness from the casino companies to give something like support for their workers because their workers already help their company to operate so they can make money before.
but it is their not obligation that is the sad reality in here and if we will push that then nothing will happen in favor of both sides.

Yes, that is not their obligation, and that is what the workers need to realize. The workers cannot hope that their company will always help them and support them, especially at this moment. They need to search for the other way if their company cannot help them.

I think if they can do that, it's like a mutual symbiosis between the owner and the workers, and I am sure that there will be a bond between them that will make them carrying each other.
employees has no choice because they are being paid for their Job,if they will add some personal on this for sure they will be kicked our their works.

Yes, that is right. Like I said before, that will depend on the owner how big their attention to their workers.

I saw something in my uncle's small office. He gives some bonus to his workers in this month to support them to buy food for their family, although he always said to his workers that he cannot always do the same thing in the next month. The amount is not too big, but if I ask my uncle how much the amount, he only said, I think that will enough for them to buy primary food for their family.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Sanitough on May 03, 2020, 11:49:16 AM
i can't really imagine that owners of all those casinos and hotels don't have enough money to pay out employees' salaries. they are just too greedy!
They have the money, but the question is, are they required to pay?

You can't call them greedy as they are not required, it could be up to them if they will give some extra or not.
Casino owners are business owners, they follow a certain company rules and if it's not part of their policy to release funds, that would not happen.
let us not think that the owner are just like an owner of a small store that he can give any to his employee or employees off the books, in big businesses everything is accounted for  (in and out of money) cash flow.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on May 03, 2020, 01:00:24 PM
Lockdown is being lifted in a staggered manner across the globe, and I hope that most of the casinos will be back in action very soon. If that doesn't happen, then a compromise needs to be reached between the two sides. Casinos can't operate online, as we already have online gambling sites for this purpose. Regular visitors may not be comfortable with the online casino games. Either wait until the lockdown is lifted, or try to reach a deal. There is no other option available.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Sanitough on May 03, 2020, 11:17:42 PM
Lockdown is being lifted in a staggered manner across the globe, and I hope that most of the casinos will be back in action very soon. If that doesn't happen, then a compromise needs to be reached between the two sides. Casinos can't operate online, as we already have online gambling sites for this purpose. Regular visitors may not be comfortable with the online casino games. Either wait until the lockdown is lifted, or try to reach a deal. There is no other option available.
Casino might be the last priority, you can't do a social distancing in a casino because that's not its norms. The business that are opening now are those providing our basic needs but casino doe snot provide it, so maybe we just stick to online gambling for now and it's possible that physical casinos might struggle until the end of the year or until the vaccine will be release.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: btc_angela on May 04, 2020, 07:31:33 AM
Lockdown is being lifted in a staggered manner across the globe, and I hope that most of the casinos will be back in action very soon. If that doesn't happen, then a compromise needs to be reached between the two sides. Casinos can't operate online, as we already have online gambling sites for this purpose. Regular visitors may not be comfortable with the online casino games. Either wait until the lockdown is lifted, or try to reach a deal. There is no other option available.

What compromise do you think we can use in this case? Like slots machine even up to comply with the social distancing rule? How about in a baccarat table? so only two players are allowed in a table? Or just a certain number of individuals are just allowed inside at a certain given time?

That's why it is really hard to make a compromise inside a casino because people are constantly moving and looking for their luck.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: swogerino on May 04, 2020, 07:40:43 AM
Lockdown is being lifted in a staggered manner across the globe, and I hope that most of the casinos will be back in action very soon. If that doesn't happen, then a compromise needs to be reached between the two sides. Casinos can't operate online, as we already have online gambling sites for this purpose. Regular visitors may not be comfortable with the online casino games. Either wait until the lockdown is lifted, or try to reach a deal. There is no other option available.

What compromise do you think we can use in this case? Like slots machine even up to comply with the social distancing rule? How about in a baccarat table? so only two players are allowed in a table? Or just a certain number of individuals are just allowed inside at a certain given time?

That's why it is really hard to make a compromise inside a casino because people are constantly moving and looking for their luck.

I think maybe a solution can be an extra cleaning lady which disinfects the baccarat table after people play and before new people are allowed to play.The same can be done in other areas of casinos where casino workers disinfect the slot machines or roulette table or poker table before new people play the games.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: onrise on May 04, 2020, 07:43:15 AM
Any one has got any confirmed news that what are casinos doing in such situations, like are they giving the salaries to their employees even during lockdown or they decided not to be give, or are they partially giving them or what is the situation with such employees who had being surviving their families on this salary only? Hope things smoother quickly as possible.



Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Zeke_23 on May 04, 2020, 08:07:23 AM
Any one has got any confirmed news that what are casinos doing in such situations, like are they giving the salaries to their employees even during lockdown or they decided not to be give, or are they partially giving them or what is the situation with such employees who had being surviving their families on this salary only? Hope things smoother quickly as possible.


In our country, a friend of mine who is actually an employee in a casino, he was given their full payment even without working ever since the beginning of this lockdown. They were also given their advance payment called 13th month pay, it is a holiday bonus and the casino expanded their help and give their employees a supply of groceries.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: ethereumhunter on May 04, 2020, 08:41:28 AM
Any one has got any confirmed news that what are casinos doing in such situations, like are they giving the salaries to their employees even during lockdown or they decided not to be give, or are they partially giving them or what is the situation with such employees who had being surviving their families on this salary only? Hope things smoother quickly as possible.


In our country, a friend of mine who is actually an employee in a casino, he was given their full payment even without working ever since the beginning of this lockdown. They were also given their advance payment called 13th month pay, it is a holiday bonus and the casino expanded their help and give their employees a supply of groceries.

That is great news. At least, we know that the casino in your country can support their workers by giving the payment to them so they can use that money to buy their daily needs. I am sure that the workers will be happy because besides of that payment, they can also get a holiday bonus. That is one sample of the casino that cares to their workers because not all of the casino can do the same thing as that casino.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: leea-1334 on May 04, 2020, 02:51:18 PM
What compromise do you think we can use in this case? Like slots machine even up to comply with the social distancing rule? How about in a baccarat table? so only two players are allowed in a table? Or just a certain number of individuals are just allowed inside at a certain given time?

That's why it is really hard to make a compromise inside a casino because people are constantly moving and looking for their luck.

The thing is,,, people who refuse to comply or just think the social distancing and whatever lockdown measures are bullshit,,, they will not even care. I have seen myself in some neighborhoods the shops do not care people do not care, so these guys just want to open and get sick. They think they are not old so they can do whatever they wants. Leave them be.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: onrise on May 04, 2020, 02:59:32 PM
Any one has got any confirmed news that what are casinos doing in such situations, like are they giving the salaries to their employees even during lockdown or they decided not to be give, or are they partially giving them or what is the situation with such employees who had being surviving their families on this salary only? Hope things smoother quickly as possible.


In our country, a friend of mine who is actually an employee in a casino, he was given their full payment even without working ever since the beginning of this lockdown. They were also given their advance payment called 13th month pay, it is a holiday bonus and the casino expanded their help and give their employees a supply of groceries.

That is great news. At least, we know that the casino in your country can support their workers by giving the payment to them so they can use that money to buy their daily needs. I am sure that the workers will be happy because besides of that payment, they can also get a holiday bonus. That is one sample of the casino that cares to their workers because not all of the casino can do the same thing as that casino.

This is true and hopefully if majority also does like this it will be a very good thing. Also wondering what government could pass on the benefits to the casinos owners so that the loses they would have suffered during their shutdown and making payment to employees can be reimbursed sort of for the casinos who does not make good profits or not that cash rich.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: bittraffic on May 04, 2020, 05:09:37 PM
Any one has got any confirmed news that what are casinos doing in such situations, like are they giving the salaries to their employees even during lockdown or they decided not to be give, or are they partially giving them or what is the situation with such employees who had being surviving their families on this salary only? Hope things smoother quickly as possible.


In our country, a friend of mine who is actually an employee in a casino, he was given their full payment even without working ever since the beginning of this lockdown. They were also given their advance payment called 13th month pay, it is a holiday bonus and the casino expanded their help and give their employees a supply of groceries.

That is great news. At least, we know that the casino in your country can support their workers by giving the payment to them so they can use that money to buy their daily needs. I am sure that the workers will be happy because besides of that payment, they can also get a holiday bonus. That is one sample of the casino that cares to their workers because not all of the casino can do the same thing as that casino.

This is true and hopefully if majority also does like this it will be a very good thing. Also wondering what government could pass on the benefits to the casinos owners so that the loses they would have suffered during their shutdown and making payment to employees can be reimbursed sort of for the casinos who does not make good profits or not that cash rich.

Some casinos are supporting foundations since the start of its operation and before the covid lockdown. Now they are helping everyone in their city.  Las Vegas businesses are supposed to be helping the city by providing their community their needs this crisis time. It's not clear if they are doing it because their mayor wants the employees to work and open the city.




Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: 7788bitcoin on May 04, 2020, 11:59:19 PM
Lockdown is being lifted in a staggered manner across the globe, and I hope that most of the casinos will be back in action very soon.
Even if the casinos started operating ill anyone dare to take risk their life in a situation like this, these are situations no one wanted to undergo but we are forced to follow the protocol designed by the health department and until there is a containment, it is better to stay away from a crowded area.

If that doesn't happen, then a compromise needs to be reached between the two sides. Casinos can't operate online, as we already have online gambling sites for this purpose. Regular visitors may not be comfortable with the online casino games. Either wait until the lockdown is lifted, or try to reach a deal. There is no other option available.
You need to adapt to the situation, i was forced to sit at home for over a month, never visited any crowded places even though i go out once in a while, i never anticipated nor wanted to shut myself inside four walls but there is no other choice considering my health and the health of my relatives and family members.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: xSkylarx on May 05, 2020, 02:13:02 AM
Lockdown is being lifted in a staggered manner across the globe, and I hope that most of the casinos will be back in action very soon.
Even if the casinos started operating ill anyone dare to take risk their life in a situation like this, these are situations no one wanted to undergo but we are forced to follow the protocol designed by the health department and until there is a containment, it is better to stay away from a crowded area.

If that doesn't happen, then a compromise needs to be reached between the two sides. Casinos can't operate online, as we already have online gambling sites for this purpose. Regular visitors may not be comfortable with the online casino games. Either wait until the lockdown is lifted, or try to reach a deal. There is no other option available.
You need to adapt to the situation, i was forced to sit at home for over a month, never visited any crowded places even though i go out once in a while, i never anticipated nor wanted to shut myself inside four walls but there is no other choice considering my health and the health of my relatives and family members.

I think the only choice left just in case this pandemic will last is to make necessary adjustments. Casinos cannot operate the same way as before because of the risk of pandemic. I doubt if casinos will survive if they open and implement social distancing or limit the people who can enter. It is also risky, just imagine the chips, money, tables, slot machines getting infected by gamblers and that will be shared by other gamblers.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: matchi2011 on May 05, 2020, 03:21:31 AM
Any one has got any confirmed news that what are casinos doing in such situations, like are they giving the salaries to their employees even during lockdown or they decided not to be give, or are they partially giving them or what is the situation with such employees who had being surviving their families on this salary only? Hope things smoother quickly as possible.


In our country, a friend of mine who is actually an employee in a casino, he was given their full payment even without working ever since the beginning of this lockdown. They were also given their advance payment called 13th month pay, it is a holiday bonus and the casino expanded their help and give their employees a supply of groceries.
The company is generous for your friend, though not all can do the same as there are differences in handling this kind of situations, some companies might have enough budget to extend help for their employee while others have only few which can be in some sort of small help to feed their workers. This pandemic virus affects most of the business and thats include the gambling offshore industries.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Russlenat on May 05, 2020, 04:56:42 AM
This pandemic virus affects most of the business and thats include the gambling offshore industries.
Based on the current situation, it looks like it will take a long time before casino will re open, and if the owners will provide salary to their employees that would mean a lot of expense on their part, though some countries may have lift the ban but the virus will still spread, and crowded place like casino is going to be a place that will put a lot of people on risk, I don't believe in social distancing within a casino.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: peter0425 on May 05, 2020, 05:24:40 AM
Lockdown is being lifted in a staggered manner across the globe, and I hope that most of the casinos will be back in action very soon. If that doesn't happen, then a compromise needs to be reached between the two sides. Casinos can't operate online, as we already have online gambling sites for this purpose. Regular visitors may not be comfortable with the online casino games. Either wait until the lockdown is lifted, or try to reach a deal. There is no other option available.
Casino might be the last priority, you can't do a social distancing in a casino because that's not its norms. The business that are opening now are those providing our basic needs but casino doe snot provide it, so maybe we just stick to online gambling for now and it's possible that physical casinos might struggle until the end of the year or until the vaccine will be release.
impossible to happen that it can be implemented guys,imagine how small the place of casino compared to the amount of people that may enter the place.
remember that inside casinos are table after table and machines against the machines.
This pandemic virus affects most of the business and thats include the gambling offshore industries.
Based on the current situation, it looks like it will take a long time before casino will re open, and if the owners will provide salary to their employees that would mean a lot of expense on their part, though some countries may have lift the ban but the virus will still spread, and crowded place like casino is going to be a place that will put a lot of people on risk, I don't believe in social distancing within a casino.
i think i have read a post here that the employer can lend money to their stopped work employee and just take the amount little by little when the work starts again to operate.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Japinat on May 05, 2020, 06:01:32 AM
i think i have read a post here that the employer can lend money to their stopped work employee and just take the amount little by little when the work starts again to operate.
They are the only one who can help their employees, but how far they will be able to do that, if the pandemic will last longer then they will run out of budget too, they can give an initial help but these employees should seek full support from the government as they are tax payers. 


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: ethereumhunter on May 05, 2020, 12:54:16 PM
That is great news. At least, we know that the casino in your country can support their workers by giving the payment to them so they can use that money to buy their daily needs. I am sure that the workers will be happy because besides of that payment, they can also get a holiday bonus. That is one sample of the casino that cares to their workers because not all of the casino can do the same thing as that casino.

This is true and hopefully if majority also does like this it will be a very good thing. Also wondering what government could pass on the benefits to the casinos owners so that the loses they would have suffered during their shutdown and making payment to employees can be reimbursed sort of for the casinos who does not make good profits or not that cash rich.

I think the government will offer some benefit to the casino owners so both sides can get the benefits. If many casinos can do this, I think that can get attention from the government so they can consider giving permission to the casino to operate or running their business under their law. Together, with the government on their side, the casino will not worry about running their business because the government will know that their purposes will not just to make money. Still, the casino will help people if there are other pandemic or worst thing happen again in the future.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: MFahad on May 05, 2020, 12:58:12 PM
Lockdown is being lifted in a staggered manner across the globe, and I hope that most of the casinos will be back in action very soon. If that doesn't happen, then a compromise needs to be reached between the two sides. Casinos can't operate online, as we already have online gambling sites for this purpose. Regular visitors may not be comfortable with the online casino games. Either wait until the lockdown is lifted, or try to reach a deal. There is no other option available.

No one knows when the lock down will be lifted and even if the lock down is partially lifted, we can't grantee that casino's will be opened or not at an early stage. Its been almost two months of casino closure (March / April) and casino owners will have to pay from their pocket if they do not dismiss the casino workers from job. Its really tough for casino owners too.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on May 05, 2020, 02:19:03 PM
Any one has got any confirmed news that what are casinos doing in such situations, like are they giving the salaries to their employees even during lockdown or they decided not to be give, or are they partially giving them or what is the situation with such employees who had being surviving their families on this salary only? Hope things smoother quickly as possible.


In our country, a friend of mine who is actually an employee in a casino, he was given their full payment even without working ever since the beginning of this lockdown. They were also given their advance payment called 13th month pay, it is a holiday bonus and the casino expanded their help and give their employees a supply of groceries.
The company is generous for your friend, though not all can do the same as there are differences in handling this kind of situations, some companies might have enough budget to extend help for their employee while others have only few which can be in some sort of small help to feed their workers. This pandemic virus affects most of the business and thats include the gambling offshore industries.
I don't think that Casinos doesn't have enough budget in this kind of situation,

It is their decision whether they will extend their help to their employees who actually work hard for them, I also think that this is the right of the employees to receive the help they deserve in exchange of their hard work.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: South Park on May 05, 2020, 06:27:38 PM
many people are experiencing the effects of this pandemic, especially the food industry and many employees are laid off from work, we can only hope that this pandemic ends soon and life returns to normal again.
Things are not going back to normal anytime soon, even if a vaccine was found tomorrow and it could be produced massively at a low cost the economic effects of this crisis are not going to disappear, there are many businesses already that have declared bankruptcy and all of those jobs that they generated will be lost, this will create uncertainty about the future of the economy and people are not going to spend as much money in luxuries as they did before and if this behaviour continues then many businesses are going to go bankrupt as well as people decide to keep their money instead of spending it.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Raflesia on May 05, 2020, 07:31:42 PM
many people are experiencing the effects of this pandemic, especially the food industry and many employees are laid off from work, we can only hope that this pandemic ends soon and life returns to normal again.
Things are not going back to normal anytime soon, even if a vaccine was found tomorrow and it could be produced massively at a low cost the economic effects of this crisis are not going to disappear, there are many businesses already that have declared bankruptcy and all of those jobs that they generated will be lost, this will create uncertainty about the future of the economy and people are not going to spend as much money in luxuries as they did before and if this behaviour continues then many businesses are going to go bankrupt as well as people decide to keep their money instead of spending it.
Still, when the vaccine has been discovered and mass produced, this will improve their recovery because many people now want to end this pandemic as soon as a few months have lost a lot, including industry and jobs for the little people.
But with its return to normal, economic recovery will return to normal where many people will be rehired and people will shop again with what they want.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: KTChampions on May 05, 2020, 08:02:56 PM
I heard that some countries began to implement a plan to gradually launch the economy. And above all, industrial enterprises received work permits. I wonder when entertainment enterprises (casinos belong to them, I think) will receive similar permissions? This would help casino workers no longer depend on the goodwill of the government or employer.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: bitcoinst on May 07, 2020, 10:29:20 PM
In my opinion, casino owners should pay their employees salaries in difficult situations like now. Because of a crisis like now cooperation
is needed by all parties, it cannot just rely on government assistance. All casinos should, especially in America, be able to pay workers
even though they don't work. Because I believe the benefits gained by casino owners are huge.

Unfortunately, the principle "this is a business - nothing personal" most often applies.
The casino is aimed at increasing their profits, they do not create any product, so it is not so important for them to have super loyal employees.
Of course, any enterprise wants employees to want to work on it even for free and love it as their parents, but as a rule, such things happen in companies that produce products that help people.
The casino, on the contrary, can get rid of all the workers, and then hire new ones without losing much.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: DarkDays on May 07, 2020, 10:56:27 PM
i can't really imagine that owners of all those casinos and hotels don't have enough money to pay out employees' salaries. they are just too greedy!

Why would they pay employees that are not working?

Do you think jobs are a one way relationship? Contracts are formed based on the understanding that an employee will perform a set amount of work in return for their salary.

I can understand paying them salary in advance, but they certainly shouldn't be paid for work they'll never complete. That's just crazy.

How would you feel if you were a business being forced to pay your employees to sit around and do nothing?


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: plvbob0070 on May 08, 2020, 07:51:51 AM
In my opinion, casino owners should pay their employees salaries in difficult situations like now. Because of a crisis like now cooperation
is needed by all parties, it cannot just rely on government assistance. All casinos should, especially in America, be able to pay workers
even though they don't work. Because I believe the benefits gained by casino owners are huge.

Unfortunately, the principle "this is a business - nothing personal" most often applies.
The casino is aimed at increasing their profits, they do not create any product, so it is not so important for them to have super loyal employees.
Of course, any enterprise wants employees to want to work on it even for free and love it as their parents, but as a rule, such things happen in companies that produce products that help people.
The casino, on the contrary, can get rid of all the workers, and then hire new ones without losing much.

I think even in a service type of business, the trust and loyalty of the workers are still needed to ensure that the business is running smoothly. Because they are the one accommodating the customers.
Although you have a point that it's easier to fire the workers especially when they are at the lower position, that just does not feel right ethically. It shows how the management poorly handles this kind of situation towards their workers.

i can't really imagine that owners of all those casinos and hotels don't have enough money to pay out employees' salaries. they are just too greedy!

Why would they pay employees that are not working?

Do you think jobs are a one way relationship? Contracts are formed based on the understanding that an employee will perform a set amount of work in return for their salary.

I can understand paying them salary in advance, but they certainly shouldn't be paid for work they'll never complete. That's just crazy.

How would you feel if you were a business being forced to pay your employees to sit around and do nothing?
When we say paying salaries, it does not mean that they should pay their workers even without doing any labor. Of course, it is not fair to the employer as well.  So to make it kind of fair, advances or bonuses are really the best things they can do to help their workers without putting the company at the edge. They can find ways to make things work out well for the two sides.

It's just my opinion though.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: onrise on May 08, 2020, 07:58:33 AM
I heard that some countries began to implement a plan to gradually launch the economy. And above all, industrial enterprises received work permits. I wonder when entertainment enterprises (casinos belong to them, I think) will receive similar permissions? This would help casino workers no longer depend on the goodwill of the government or employer.

The situation is so difficult that on one hand if certain sectors are opened than they would also have to ensure that all the rules are being obeyed and followed so that in future there is no mess created due to opening of such sectors or industries and create further more cases. Some countries where the cases are drastically reduced can think or also doing it. But still the many countries are facing the issue and daily the cases are on rising mode itself. Also, some says that in coming time the cases may even rise much more than what exists in some countries.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Vaculin on May 08, 2020, 09:13:58 AM
Also, some says that in coming time the cases may even rise much more than what exists in some countries.
In the case of the USA, that's what we are seeing now, there is an increase in a daily basis and in fact they are the number 1 with 1.2 million total infected now, it's no joke considering the increase was fast and they left other countries in terms of number of cases.

This is alarming, and they need to fully lock down if possible as it could in fact all the people as it stays longer.
I don't know, maybe they have underestimated the covid-19, because they think China were able to beat the virus, so they think they could also do the same.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: LogitechMouse on May 08, 2020, 10:05:05 AM
In my opinion, casino owners should pay their employees salaries in difficult situations like now. Because of a crisis like now cooperation
is needed by all parties, it cannot just rely on government assistance. All casinos should, especially in America, be able to pay workers
even though they don't work. Because I believe the benefits gained by casino owners are huge.
Well, I know the desire that you want that casinos must pay their employees as they helped them in making their business a successful one. However, some of the casino owners are just selfish enough that they don't want to help them.

There are some casinos who are giving some assistance to their employees and that is a good move for them. Yes we need cooperation right now but the casinos doesn't have the power to sustain the lives of their employees for a long time. The employees must help themselves too.

The problem with some employees is that, they are just hoping that the company where they are working will give them some food supplies or cash assistance. They don't have any savings to be used for this crisis. One problem is that, most of the employees doesn't saving a portion of their salary but they are spending all of it and the worse is that they are spending in things that they don't need. Now they are the ones who are suffering right now.

I just wish that this will be a lesson for them that whatever happens, keep a portion of your monthly salary in a bank so that you can use it when things like this will happen. It will serve as your emergency funds.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: South Park on May 09, 2020, 09:09:18 PM
many people are experiencing the effects of this pandemic, especially the food industry and many employees are laid off from work, we can only hope that this pandemic ends soon and life returns to normal again.
Things are not going back to normal anytime soon, even if a vaccine was found tomorrow and it could be produced massively at a low cost the economic effects of this crisis are not going to disappear, there are many businesses already that have declared bankruptcy and all of those jobs that they generated will be lost, this will create uncertainty about the future of the economy and people are not going to spend as much money in luxuries as they did before and if this behaviour continues then many businesses are going to go bankrupt as well as people decide to keep their money instead of spending it.
Still, when the vaccine has been discovered and mass produced, this will improve their recovery because many people now want to end this pandemic as soon as a few months have lost a lot, including industry and jobs for the little people.
But with its return to normal, economic recovery will return to normal where many people will be rehired and people will shop again with what they want.
In my opinion you are being too optimistic, the economy is not going back to normal anytime soon, there are many businesses that have already closed their doors and their owners do not have the money to reopen their business or to create a new one so all of those jobs are lost, and even if it is obvious that things are going to improve once this healthcare crisis is resolved I'm pretty sure that many businesses are not going to hire as many people as before because they are going to want to recover the money they lost during the months they were closed.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: robelneo on May 10, 2020, 03:03:56 AM
I heard that some countries began to implement a plan to gradually launch the economy. And above all, industrial enterprises received work permits. I wonder when entertainment enterprises (casinos belong to them, I think) will receive similar permissions? This would help casino workers no longer depend on the goodwill of the government or employer.

Here in our country, we are gradually moving from enhanced quarantine to general quarantine on general quarantine businesses and other establishments can reopen but with strict restrictions and guidelines, could be possible with gambling casinos so they can allow their work to go to their work and earn a living.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: pakhitheboss on May 10, 2020, 08:51:48 AM
I heard that some countries began to implement a plan to gradually launch the economy. And above all, industrial enterprises received work permits. I wonder when entertainment enterprises (casinos belong to them, I think) will receive similar permissions? This would help casino workers no longer depend on the goodwill of the government or employer.

Here in our country, we are gradually moving from enhanced quarantine to general quarantine on general quarantine businesses and other establishments can reopen but with strict restrictions and guidelines, could be possible with gambling casinos so they can allow their work to go to their work and earn a living.

Yeah the same is happening in my country too. Slowly businesses are opening up. You cannot keep the lockdown for ever. People will have live with this virus eventually. Lockdown is causing more problem than the virus.

The poor need money to feed themselves and their families. It will be only possible if the lockdown is removed gradually so that people can work.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: LogitechMouse on May 10, 2020, 09:10:09 AM
I heard that some countries began to implement a plan to gradually launch the economy. And above all, industrial enterprises received work permits. I wonder when entertainment enterprises (casinos belong to them, I think) will receive similar permissions? This would help casino workers no longer depend on the goodwill of the government or employer.

Here in our country, we are gradually moving from enhanced quarantine to general quarantine on general quarantine businesses and other establishments can reopen but with strict restrictions and guidelines, could be possible with gambling casinos so they can allow their work to go to their work and earn a living.
With this movement of the government, I believe that the economy is slowly recovering and some of the employees will be back to business again although there are some places in our country that will still be on enhanced community quarantine because of the huge number of cases in their place.

With this, I just hope that those who are heavily affected right now will learn their lesson that they must keep a portion of their salary for emergencies like this :).


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Japinat on May 10, 2020, 09:12:41 AM
I heard that some countries began to implement a plan to gradually launch the economy. And above all, industrial enterprises received work permits. I wonder when entertainment enterprises (casinos belong to them, I think) will receive similar permissions? This would help casino workers no longer depend on the goodwill of the government or employer.

Here in our country, we are gradually moving from enhanced quarantine to general quarantine on general quarantine businesses and other establishments can reopen but with strict restrictions and guidelines, could be possible with gambling casinos so they can allow their work to go to their work and earn a living.
With this movement of the government, I believe that the economy is slowly recovering and some of the employees will be back to business again although there are some places in our country that will still be on enhanced community quarantine because of the huge number of cases in their place.

With this, I just hope that those who are heavily affected right now will learn their lesson that they must keep a portion of their salary for emergencies like this :).

It will only result to a slow recovery, but not all industry because there are industries that are prohibited from operating, those industry that gathers masses like sports, they are still halted right now, it will only be back to normal when the government will be able to find a way to kill the virus.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Jating on May 10, 2020, 10:28:55 AM
I heard that some countries began to implement a plan to gradually launch the economy. And above all, industrial enterprises received work permits. I wonder when entertainment enterprises (casinos belong to them, I think) will receive similar permissions? This would help casino workers no longer depend on the goodwill of the government or employer.

Here in our country, we are gradually moving from enhanced quarantine to general quarantine on general quarantine businesses and other establishments can reopen but with strict restrictions and guidelines, could be possible with gambling casinos so they can allow their work to go to their work and earn a living.

Actually government can lax their community quarantine so that the business can resume not just in Las Vegas. But there need to be restrictions and it's hard to implement restrictions based on what I've seen in our country. People still continue as if there was no virus to protect themselves. I agree with the "earn a living" argument and "bring food to the table". But this virus knows nothing about it, no colour or race, those casino workers will really risk if they are allowed to go back to work. Really hard decision for the government to make at this point.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: matchi2011 on May 10, 2020, 10:50:05 AM
I heard that some countries began to implement a plan to gradually launch the economy. And above all, industrial enterprises received work permits. I wonder when entertainment enterprises (casinos belong to them, I think) will receive similar permissions? This would help casino workers no longer depend on the goodwill of the government or employer.

Here in our country, we are gradually moving from enhanced quarantine to general quarantine on general quarantine businesses and other establishments can reopen but with strict restrictions and guidelines, could be possible with gambling casinos so they can allow their work to go to their work and earn a living.

Yeah the same is happening in my country too. Slowly businesses are opening up. You cannot keep the lockdown for ever. People will have live with this virus eventually. Lockdown is causing more problem than the virus.

The poor need money to feed themselves and their families. It will be only possible if the lockdown is removed gradually so that people can work.
The case of lacking of money to buy food for their families, the lockdown needs to lift or to change and place it to a much lighter conditions
as there's business and employment that needs to reopen, employees needs to go back to work in order to survive.
The plan to reopen might work just to put more safety measures to ensure that the virus will not go further and to spread more.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: ultrloa on May 10, 2020, 11:57:56 AM
I heard that some countries began to implement a plan to gradually launch the economy. And above all, industrial enterprises received work permits. I wonder when entertainment enterprises (casinos belong to them, I think) will receive similar permissions? This would help casino workers no longer depend on the goodwill of the government or employer.

Here in our country, we are gradually moving from enhanced quarantine to general quarantine on general quarantine businesses and other establishments can reopen but with strict restrictions and guidelines, could be possible with gambling casinos so they can allow their work to go to their work and earn a living.

Yeah the same is happening in my country too. Slowly businesses are opening up. You cannot keep the lockdown for ever. People will have live with this virus eventually. Lockdown is causing more problem than the virus.

The poor need money to feed themselves and their families. It will be only possible if the lockdown is removed gradually so that people can work.
The case of lacking of money to buy food for their families, the lockdown needs to lift or to change and place it to a much lighter conditions
as there's business and employment that needs to reopen, employees needs to go back to work in order to survive.
The plan to reopen might work just to put more safety measures to ensure that the virus will not go further and to spread more.

Yes they need to go back but do you know how big the risk if they will force to go back to work and go home after the shift? They are not only risking their life but as well the life of their family to their salary for one month is not enough if all of them will get sick. But if really needed the company should impose the rule of stay in workers maybe by this they can lessen the contacts on other humans and make sure their workers are safe and can provide the needs of their families.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: ethereumhunter on May 10, 2020, 05:12:33 PM
It will only result to a slow recovery, but not all industry because there are industries that are prohibited from operating, those industry that gathers masses like sports, they are still halted right now, it will only be back to normal when the government will be able to find a way to kill the virus.

Maybe in sports games, they will use a distance for the audience so people can still watch the sports directly. But yeah, they need to have high security to scan every people who want to watch the event.

But the problem now is how to solve the workers during this pandemic because they need to survive while they run out their money to buy their daily needs. That is what needs to be a concern for the government, and help them by giving the food for them to eat.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Naida_BR on May 10, 2020, 05:36:05 PM
I heard that some countries began to implement a plan to gradually launch the economy. And above all, industrial enterprises received work permits. I wonder when entertainment enterprises (casinos belong to them, I think) will receive similar permissions? This would help casino workers no longer depend on the goodwill of the government or employer.

Here in our country, we are gradually moving from enhanced quarantine to general quarantine on general quarantine businesses and other establishments can reopen but with strict restrictions and guidelines, could be possible with gambling casinos so they can allow their work to go to their work and earn a living.

Strict restrictions are going to occur till the end of 2020 at least for all businesses.
I think that this way of reopening businesses is going to change the ordinary way that casinos operate. Traditional casinos ar going to lose a lot of their revenue and people are going to start turning their preferences into the online casinos.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: freedomgo on May 10, 2020, 11:37:24 PM
Strict restrictions are going to occur till the end of 2020 at least for all businesses.
I think that this way of reopening businesses is going to change the ordinary way that casinos operate. Traditional casinos ar going to lose a lot of their revenue and people are going to start turning their preferences into the online casinos.
Let's expect that we will be back to normal by next year, at least that's being realistic because as of now, there has been no news about the vaccine that it will be release to continue the business operation on its normal way.

we will have to wait, but slowly casino will return with strict measures being impose so they will survive and they can still make profit at the moment.
Casinos are one of the biggest contributor of our taxes, this industry can't die.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Oilacris on May 11, 2020, 02:52:17 AM
Strict restrictions are going to occur till the end of 2020 at least for all businesses.
I think that this way of reopening businesses is going to change the ordinary way that casinos operate. Traditional casinos ar going to lose a lot of their revenue and people are going to start turning their preferences into the online casinos.
Let's expect that we will be back to normal by next year, at least that's being realistic because as of now, there has been no news about the vaccine that it will be release to continue the business operation on its normal way.

we will have to wait, but slowly casino will return with strict measures being impose so they will survive and they can still make profit at the moment.
Casinos are one of the biggest contributor of our taxes, this industry can't die.
It plays a role when it comes to economic aspect so its impossible to think for them to die but actually on the current condition it did really being affected that much
thats why some of the casinos still opens.
This article would really be a good read up: https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/as-nevada-slowly-reopens-gaming-comeback-could-be-a-long-road

I heard that some countries began to implement a plan to gradually launch the economy. And above all, industrial enterprises received work permits. I wonder when entertainment enterprises (casinos belong to them, I think) will receive similar permissions? This would help casino workers no longer depend on the goodwill of the government or employer.

Here in our country, we are gradually moving from enhanced quarantine to general quarantine on general quarantine businesses and other establishments can reopen but with strict restrictions and guidelines, could be possible with gambling casinos so they can allow their work to go to their work and earn a living.

Strict restrictions are going to occur till the end of 2020 at least for all businesses.
I think that this way of reopening businesses is going to change the ordinary way that casinos operate. Traditional casinos ar going to lose a lot of their revenue and people are going to start turning their preferences into the online casinos.
They would really consider that out if this pandemic would last long.Every business do needs revenue and they would normally jump of
into things which they can able to see that they would able to profit out.This isnt only concern with gambling industry but also
into other industries as well.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Debonaire217 on May 11, 2020, 07:27:15 AM
I heard that some countries began to implement a plan to gradually launch the economy. And above all, industrial enterprises received work permits. I wonder when entertainment enterprises (casinos belong to them, I think) will receive similar permissions? This would help casino workers no longer depend on the goodwill of the government or employer.

Entertainment business could possibly belong to the less priority to be allowed with the situation we have. We can't really force the Government to allow it as the main priorities are the necessities, to produce goods and to make the economy stable again. As far as I know, every country has different status of COVID infections, but I also believe that every country has its own strategic plan on how to cope up with this to revive their economy. It is just that, unless the main source of income for the country is gambling, that country could possibly pursue casinos back to business such as Vegas.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Japinat on May 11, 2020, 09:16:28 AM
It will only result to a slow recovery, but not all industry because there are industries that are prohibited from operating, those industry that gathers masses like sports, they are still halted right now, it will only be back to normal when the government will be able to find a way to kill the virus.

Maybe in sports games, they will use a distance for the audience so people can still watch the sports directly. But yeah, they need to have high security to scan every people who want to watch the event.

But the problem now is how to solve the workers during this pandemic because they need to survive while they run out their money to buy their daily needs. That is what needs to be a concern for the government, and help them by giving the food for them to eat.

That's the option propose by some sports, they like to resume with no fans or the fans just watching them on TV.

With that kind of proposal if it will be implemented, it will prevent people from getting infected as they are literally watching at home, but it will not be as profitable as the usual, but then, if they like to be back in business, they have no choice but to impose the strict measures and follow the social distancing policy, let's see if some countries will be successful in launching their sports in this kind of format.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: ethereumhunter on May 11, 2020, 11:47:54 AM
It will only result to a slow recovery, but not all industry because there are industries that are prohibited from operating, those industry that gathers masses like sports, they are still halted right now, it will only be back to normal when the government will be able to find a way to kill the virus.

Maybe in sports games, they will use a distance for the audience so people can still watch the sports directly. But yeah, they need to have high security to scan every people who want to watch the event.

But the problem now is how to solve the workers during this pandemic because they need to survive while they run out their money to buy their daily needs. That is what needs to be a concern for the government, and help them by giving the food for them to eat.

That's the option propose by some sports, they like to resume with no fans or the fans just watching them on TV.

With that kind of proposal if it will be implemented, it will prevent people from getting infected as they are literally watching at home, but it will not be as profitable as the usual, but then, if they like to be back in business, they have no choice but to impose the strict measures and follow the social distancing policy, let's see if some countries will be successful in launching their sports in this kind of format.

Maybe that is not profitable, but at least, their audience has other entertainment that they can watch in their home. I am sure some countries will be successful in relaunching their sports to the public, and they will take care of everything to save people who want to watch the game directly. They will use a social distancing policy regarding their country law, so their people will know that they are serious about relaunching that sports.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on May 11, 2020, 01:58:21 PM
Considering the fact that the COVID 19 virus is likely to remain as a threat for a long time, I am worried about the future of physical casinos. They can't operate under social distancing norms. So what would that mean? Will the workers be comfortable, if the casino owner ask them to remain at home (without pay) for another 12 months? It may be a better idea to look for other options, before it is too late. The casino owners may support them for another one or two months. What will happen after that?


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: blockman on May 11, 2020, 02:48:09 PM
Considering the fact that the COVID 19 virus is likely to remain as a threat for a long time, I am worried about the future of physical casinos. They can't operate under social distancing norms. So what would that mean? Will the workers be comfortable, if the casino owner ask them to remain at home (without pay) for another 12 months? It may be a better idea to look for other options, before it is too late. The casino owners may support them for another one or two months. What will happen after that?
The idea should start from the casino management itself. They need for an alternative and the only solution that they can do is to make an online platform for their casino. To us, this is not new because we've been into online casinos but it's with cryptocurrencies.
To them, transactions will be in fiat and they will have the database of their customers who would want to gamble with them. I don't know if some management already thinking of this option.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: kotajikikox on May 11, 2020, 04:29:15 PM
Considering the fact that the COVID 19 virus is likely to remain as a threat for a long time, I am worried about the future of physical casinos. They can't operate under social distancing norms.
I believe they can as long as the government will allow them to do right?they can afford to do anything just to follow the rules and be back in business.
So what would that mean? Will the workers be comfortable, if the casino owner ask them to remain at home (without pay) for another 12 months?
I think it is not that long,12 months is exaggerated and even government cannot afford losing that Big taxes coming from the casino .
It may be a better idea to look for other options, before it is too late. The casino owners may support them for another one or two months. What will happen after that?
there will be no another option but to go back working because thats the only way they can be sustained.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on May 12, 2020, 09:00:01 AM
Considering the fact that the COVID 19 virus is likely to remain as a threat for a long time, I am worried about the future of physical casinos. They can't operate under social distancing norms.
I believe they can as long as the government will allow them to do right?they can afford to do anything just to follow the rules and be back in business.
So what would that mean? Will the workers be comfortable, if the casino owner ask them to remain at home (without pay) for another 12 months?
I think it is not that long,12 months is exaggerated and even government cannot afford losing that Big taxes coming from the casino .
It may be a better idea to look for other options, before it is too late. The casino owners may support them for another one or two months. What will happen after that?
there will be no another option but to go back working because thats the only way they can be sustained.
-Yes, once the government allows them to start operating again, then it will start again.
-It looks exaggerated but that is something that we really don't know, in the company that I am working, they stated that after June 1st, if ever that the lockdown in our country will be extended, we will remain at home without pay until we can start going to work again.
-Yes, there is no other option, right now, going back to work is the only way while applying social distancing and do sanitation.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: Viscore on May 12, 2020, 09:28:14 AM
-Yes, once the government allows them to start operating again, then it will start again.
-It looks exaggerated but that is something that we really don't know, in the company that I am working, they stated that after June 1st, if ever that the lockdown in our country will be extended, we will remain at home without pay until we can start going to work again.
-Yes, there is no other option, right now, going back to work is the only way while applying social distancing and do sanitation.

The world cannot stop because of the virus, the government has to balance the health safety of the people and the economy. Therefore, soon, business like casino will operate but with proper implementation on social distancing and we should expect other industry will also be operating in a slow phase until everything will be back to normal.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: ethereumhunter on May 12, 2020, 12:25:45 PM
-Yes, once the government allows them to start operating again, then it will start again.
-It looks exaggerated but that is something that we really don't know, in the company that I am working, they stated that after June 1st, if ever that the lockdown in our country will be extended, we will remain at home without pay until we can start going to work again.
-Yes, there is no other option, right now, going back to work is the only way while applying social distancing and do sanitation.

The world cannot stop because of the virus, the government has to balance the health safety of the people and the economy. Therefore, soon, business like casino will operate but with proper implementation on social distancing and we should expect other industry will also be operating in a slow phase until everything will be back to normal.

The government will balance the health of the people and the economy someday. Right now, they need to work hard to cure the people and find the vaccine before it spreads to more people. The casino will operate yet, but that is after they apply something that can guarantee people to play safely in their place. But that is not a 100% guarantee because we don't know how the virus can spread to other people.


Title: Re: Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown
Post by: South Park on May 13, 2020, 04:37:16 PM
I heard that some countries began to implement a plan to gradually launch the economy. And above all, industrial enterprises received work permits. I wonder when entertainment enterprises (casinos belong to them, I think) will receive similar permissions? This would help casino workers no longer depend on the goodwill of the government or employer.

Here in our country, we are gradually moving from enhanced quarantine to general quarantine on general quarantine businesses and other establishments can reopen but with strict restrictions and guidelines, could be possible with gambling casinos so they can allow their work to go to their work and earn a living.
This is without a doubt an option but at the same time we must recognize that casinos are probably not that high on the list of priorities for governments to allow to open, so most likely they are going to be one of the last businesses to be allowed to open their doors and it is going to be very difficult for the workers of the casinos as they have the same needs as everyone else, so their demands to receive support from the casinos they work for is in fact justified.