Title: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: FinneysTrueVision on November 19, 2021, 01:47:05 AM After becoming undisputed champion at super middleweight Canelo is now prepared for his next challenge. He will be moving up two weight classes to face WBC cruiserweight champion Ilunga Makabu. This opponent is not very well known but he has a high knockout percentage with 25 KOs in 28 victories and he has not had a loss in over 5 years. It will be an impressive feat if Canelo can become champion at cruiserweight after starting his career fighting in the jr. welterweight division.
https://i.imgur.com/Eyme22D.png Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: goaldigger on November 19, 2021, 02:14:14 AM As expected with Canelo after winning on his last match, he can easily have the next match so they can continue with the hype.
With the records of Makabu, I can say that he is a great boxer and should be taken seriously by Canelo this could be a big match for him and if he him, for sure next match will settle right away. Any news about the target date of this Match? Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: FinneysTrueVision on November 19, 2021, 02:28:17 AM Any news about the target date of this Match? Nothing is official at this point but it should take place on Cinco de Mayo weekend. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: chaser15 on November 19, 2021, 02:58:33 AM So now it became official?
I'm reading this on news recently but more on discussions and just a plan. Now it was finalized although no official date yet, another milestone for Canelo if win. This opponent is not very well known but he has a high knockout percentage with 25 KOs in 28 victories and he has not had a loss in over 5 years. Maybe just on you. The opponent is popular, especially in his weight class. If it's not, he won't be able to be considered as the next opponent for the recently undisputed champion, Canelo Alvarez. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: mirakal on November 19, 2021, 03:03:53 AM Great decision by Canelo Alvarez, moving up gives him a better opportunity to prove that he can become a champion in a high division. There's nothing for him to prove since he is already an undisputed champion in his current division.
This fight has no official date yet but there's speculation that it will likely happen next year between May and June. Quote At the time of writing, an official date has yet to be announced by the WBC but what we do know is that the bout will be taking place around May and June 2022, giving the Mexican plenty of time to acclimatise himself to his new surroundings. ================ source : https://www.givemesport.com/1787062-canelo-alvarez-vs-ilunga-makabu-date-when-will-the-fight-take-place Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: bitzizzix on November 19, 2021, 03:06:24 AM Ilunga Makabu is a Congolese fighter with a record of 28 wins and two losses and the WBC cruiserweight world champion challenged by Canelo Alvarez is not satisfied with the few titles he has won.
Makabu is a formidable fighter with a lethal punch, and his 25 KO wins prove that he has a deadly punch that all boxers should be wary of. And if I'm not mistaken, Canelo Alvarez vs Ilunga Makabu in Anggedakan will fight in May June 2022. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Kelvinid on November 19, 2021, 03:13:38 AM Ilunga Makabu is a Congolese fighter with a record of 28 wins and two losses and the WBC cruiserweight world champion challenged by Canelo Alvarez is not satisfied with the few titles he has won. I don't know about his opponent but if we only based on his record, that's not relevant as Canelo has been beating guys with undefeated record. Makabu is a formidable fighter with a lethal punch, and his 25 KO wins prove that he has a deadly punch that all boxers should be wary of. So it's still Canelo for me. And if I'm not mistaken, Canelo Alvarez vs Ilunga Makabu in Anggedakan will fight in May June 2022. That's according to the article shared by the poster above. However, it may change as they haven't sign a contract yet but the biggest news here is that Canelo moving up in weight. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Dave1 on November 19, 2021, 03:20:16 AM Why not go and chase Bivol or Beterviev at LHW though? and chooses the weakest in the Cruiserweight champion in Makabu?
I'm not saying the Canelo is not good, he is great and one of the best of the current generations and could be the fighter of the decade, but it seems that this is cherry picking to me. No offense to Canelo's fans here. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Japinat on November 19, 2021, 04:11:46 AM I'm surprised that after Canelo becomes an undisputed champion he is planning to have another fight.
This guy does not want to rest, he wants to always continue to be in business and that is by beating fighters, this time still a bigger fighter but not a known name IMO. So maybe he should make it happen, in bigger weights, there's bigger money, so if he could still reign there, that's another big success of Canelo and more praises he'll receive as a fighter. This guy is really huge, look at is highlights here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF07uecaQvs Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: TravelMug on November 19, 2021, 04:45:42 AM If this is true then I commend Alvarez for really stepping up and making another challenge in his career.
This is a new territory for him, as far as I can remember, when he goes up to LHW and challenge Kovalev and won the fight, he said that he will stay down at super MW. And it's obvious though that there are no more challenges at 168 lbs and that's why he and his team are now going to campaign in Cruiserweight. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Yaunfitda on November 19, 2021, 05:13:42 AM So Canelo Alvarez moving up from 168 lbs to 190 lbs? That's freaking 22 lbs that he needs to put on his body unless this will be a catch weight?
Just to give others perspective, one of the greatest cruiserweight is Evander Holyfield, before he jumps to heavyweight and fights Mike Tyson. So imagine how huge Evander during his prime at cruiserweight. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: molsewid on November 19, 2021, 06:31:25 AM I'm surprised that after Canelo becomes an undisputed champion he is planning to have another fight. This guy does not want to rest, he wants to always continue to be in business and that is by beating fighters, this time still a bigger fighter but not a known name IMO. So maybe he should make it happen, in bigger weights, there's bigger money, so if he could still reign there, that's another big success of Canelo and more praises he'll receive as a fighter. This guy is really huge, look at is highlights here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF07uecaQvs This man Canelo Alvarez has an active career as it seems since I think it's only 2 weeks since his last successful fight with Caleb Plant, it seems that the opportunity for him is easily coming. Though it is not impossible because this man is a great fighter from his recent division and of course he is deserving to take a one step ahead, I mean this man manage to skip a light heavyweight division and now he is going to finally face fighters line up in a cruiserweight division like Ilunga Makabu. This is a big breakthrough for his career. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Kasabus on November 19, 2021, 06:34:29 AM Canelo my man, whoever he will face I'll always back him to win.
Last time I won my bet because I trust him, so although he move up in weight, I still think he could win against a bigger fighter as he has the power and is an accurate puncher. Slowly he will destroy his opponent so I'm not worried about him facing a knockout artist. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: mu_enrico on November 19, 2021, 06:36:17 AM What? Seriously we get to see FAT CANELO? He won't get taller, so get fat is the only option :D
Well, to be fair, Canelo only 3cm shorter than Mike Tyson, so in theory he can still compete even in heavyweight if he puts a lot of weight. I don't think this is a good decision tho, since I don't want to see FAT CANELO. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: YOSHIE on November 19, 2021, 07:30:27 AM The Mexican-born man, indeed in terms of the career he has obtained in boxing so far, it can be said that Canelo has become a successful boxer at this time, until he gets the call (King of World Boxing), indeed he should have achieved that, considering that Canelo's brother can also be said to be a professional boxer like: Rigoberto.
I remember Canelo at that time at the age of 15 years, already a professional boxer in dealing with his opponents in the ring, Canelo is known as a tough boxer, so naturally he gets praise from his fans, family and relatives. About boxing between Canelo Alvarez vs Ilunga Makabu I can't say much, maybe it's not time for me to say they both won and lost in the next ring. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Botnake on November 19, 2021, 07:35:57 AM What? Seriously we get to see FAT CANELO? He won't get taller, so get fat is the only option :D Well, to be fair, Canelo only 3cm shorter than Mike Tyson, so in theory he can still compete even in heavyweight if he puts a lot of weight. I don't think this is a good decision tho, since I don't want to see FAT CANELO. Whatever he looks what's important is he will win. It's a new challenge for him and he is really to take it, besides there's no reason for him to stay because he already become an undisputed fighter. Correct me if I'm wrong, if he ever gets heavier, it doesn't mean he has to catch up with the weight required right? He just has to make sure not to go over the weight required. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Davidvictorson on November 19, 2021, 07:38:19 AM After becoming undisputed champion at super middleweight Canelo is now prepared for his next challenge. He will be moving up two weight classes to face WBC cruiserweight champion Ilunga Makabu. This opponent is not very well known but he has a high knockout percentage with 25 KOs in 28 victories and he has not had a loss in over 5 years. It will be an impressive feat if Canelo can become champion at cruiserweight after starting his career fighting in the jr. welterweight division. In my own opinion, this is a very very dangerous fight for Canelo I could definitely see Canelo getting stunned and possibly even getting knocked down for the first time in his career by this man. If I'm not mistaking Makabu should probably be the favorite to win given the fact canelo's only 5ft 7.5" and a natural middle weight.https://i.imgur.com/Eyme22D.png Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Obito on November 19, 2021, 07:40:52 AM Canelo my man, whoever he will face I'll always back him to win. He will definitely win this one, I mean the move to a higher weight class is going to be influential to his already devastating punching power, in my opinion it's like an evolution for him. Haven't heard of this opponent before since I don't follow boxing avidly but if he is matched with Canelo, there's something to back him up.Last time I won my bet because I trust him, so although he move up in weight, I still think he could win against a bigger fighter as he has the power and is an accurate puncher. Slowly he will destroy his opponent so I'm not worried about him facing a knockout artist. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: mu_enrico on November 19, 2021, 07:59:52 AM Correct me if I'm wrong, if he ever gets heavier, it doesn't mean he has to catch up with the weight required right? He just has to make sure not to go over the weight required. True, there's no minimum weight, only maximum. In theory, Canelo can even fight Fury in his current weight class (super middleweight) without adding more Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on November 19, 2021, 10:49:39 AM We might see a version of Canelo like this: ;D
https://i.imgur.com/XhkkVkv.png However, this is a very complicated situation for Canelo, he will be going up again and our body can only take that much of muscles and fats. Maybe he won't be that fast anymore because of all the weight that he is going to carry. The power though might still be there, but this is not his weight class. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Jating on November 19, 2021, 10:54:38 AM Correct me if I'm wrong, if he ever gets heavier, it doesn't mean he has to catch up with the weight required right? He just has to make sure not to go over the weight required. True, there's no minimum weight, only maximum. In theory, Canelo can even fight Fury in his current weight class (super middleweight) without adding more Only way for Canelo to gain pure muscle to at least reach CW is to used enhancing drugs (PEDS). So I doubt that we will take that route. Maybe he will take the weight room and lift weights to gain mass and muscle. But yes it could affect his speed, so we are not sure why Canelo decided to move to CW and totally skip LHW (175 lbs), which is far more achievable. And he has one fight as LHW and won. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: robelneo on November 19, 2021, 11:22:28 AM Makabu lost to Tony Bellew via knock out but Bellew is a huge fighter with a big punch and that was five years ago, Makabu is a big puncher but lack ring generalship he can easily get hit he loves to go toe to toe if Canelo can take Makabu's punch he has a good chance, but we have to understand adding more than 35 pounds will have a huge effect on your movement and this is something Canelo has to deal fighting in the cruiserweight.
Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: bisdak40 on November 19, 2021, 11:25:51 AM Great decision by Canelo Alvarez, moving up gives him a better opportunity to prove that he can become a champion in a high division. There's nothing for him to prove since he is already an undisputed champion in his current division. There is nothing for him in his current division as GGG will likely lose in his fight with Murata this December ;D. Makabu poses a legit threat to Canelo's career as the former is much bigger than him and as we all know Canelo seems to have a problem with heavier guys. This fight will happen in May as the highlight of Cinco de Mayo festivities. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: samcrypto on November 19, 2021, 11:31:12 AM What? Seriously we get to see FAT CANELO? He won't get taller, so get fat is the only option :D I smell so much hate here, being fat is not a big deal as long as you are qualified for the weight standard and if you have a strong power to knock out your opponent I guess that's more of the advantage, and many fighters have the same story. We've seen Canelo dominating his previous match, so technically this is a follow up match to continue making his name in boxing, let's wait for their final announcement if this will push through. Well, to be fair, Canelo only 3cm shorter than Mike Tyson, so in theory he can still compete even in heavyweight if he puts a lot of weight. I don't think this is a good decision tho, since I don't want to see FAT CANELO. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: carlisle1 on November 19, 2021, 12:01:51 PM Makabu lost to Tony Bellew via knock out but Bellew is a huge fighter with a big punch and that was five years ago, Makabu is a big puncher but lack ring generalship he can easily get hit he loves to go toe to toe if Canelo can take Makabu's punch he has a good chance, but we have to understand adding more than 35 pounds will have a huge effect on your movement and this is something Canelo has to deal fighting in the cruiserweight. Additional weight, if not being workout correctly, will affect all his movements, especially his speed. But knowing Canelo and his camp, they are good at preparing and always up to the challenge, for me, it's a wise decision as a fighter. If he thinks that there's nothing left for him from his current division, moving up and challenge a much bigger one is a nice move for his career. We don't know what adjustments he needs to do, but the chance of winning is always up for Alvarez. I still see him doing the same strategy, observing and checking if what kind of opponent Makabu is, before engaging and throwing his best attacks. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Natalim on November 19, 2021, 12:07:13 PM Great decision by Canelo Alvarez, moving up gives him a better opportunity to prove that he can become a champion in a high division. There's nothing for him to prove since he is already an undisputed champion in his current division. There is nothing for him in his current division as GGG will likely lose in his fight with Murata this December ;D. Makabu poses a legit threat to Canelo's career as the former is much bigger than him and as we all know Canelo seems to have a problem with heavier guys. Well, you have a point as I have not seen Canelo fought against a heavier fighter, and if he loses here then most likely the trilogy of Canelo and GGG that we are waiting for might finally happen. This fight will happen in May as the highlight of Cinco de Mayo festivities. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: fortunecrypto on November 19, 2021, 12:25:09 PM Makabu poses a legit threat to Canelo's career as the former is much bigger than him and as we all know Canelo seems to have a problem with heavier guys. This fight will happen in May as the highlight of Cinco de Mayo festivities. Is Canelo asking too much that he jumps from Super Middleweight to Cruiserweight, almost a heavyweight, I remember DeLa Hoya jumping from welterweight to Middleweight against Hopkins, Dela Hoya's additional weight put too much pressure as he cannot move fast but this is something interesting, Canelo wants to be the greatest Mexican boxer of all time and he cannot achieve it by being a champion in 4 weight category he must conquer territories, he has a great trainer in Reynoso, but the pressure in this weight category is too much. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Vaculin on November 19, 2021, 01:11:05 PM Makabu poses a legit threat to Canelo's career as the former is much bigger than him and as we all know Canelo seems to have a problem with heavier guys. This fight will happen in May as the highlight of Cinco de Mayo festivities. Is Canelo asking too much that he jumps from Super Middleweight to Cruiserweight, almost a heavyweight, I remember DeLa Hoya jumping from welterweight to Middleweight against Hopkins, Dela Hoya's additional weight put too much pressure as he cannot move fast but this is something interesting, Canelo wants to be the greatest Mexican boxer of all time and he cannot achieve it by being a champion in 4 weight category he must conquer territories, he has a great trainer in Reynoso, but the pressure in this weight category is too much. He can't be the greatest boxer of all time because at his age now, he cannot surpass the achievement of Manny Pacquiao which is the only 8th division world champion. however, he can always try to move up in weight and be a champion in such weight, we just have to believe in him just like him believing himself he could. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Cling18 on November 19, 2021, 01:17:59 PM Canelo is already creating a good record on the boxing field and I'm surprised that he's going to have another rematch with just a short interval of time. I believe that he has a huge potential to be like Manny Pacquiao though he still has a lot to go through. Makabu should be well prepared to face Canelo for him to beat him and it will surely be a tough match for him.
Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Ziskinberg on November 19, 2021, 01:49:08 PM Canelo is already creating a good record on the boxing field and I'm surprised that he's going to have another rematch with just a short interval of time. This isn't a rematch, he never fought Ilunga Makabu yet, actually, he is moving in weight a challenge Ilunga Makabu which is bigger and heavier than him, also he has a high KO ratio based on his record. https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/457720 I believe that he has a huge potential to be like Manny Pacquiao though he still has a lot to go through. Makabu should be well prepared to face Canelo for him to beat him and it will surely be a tough match for him. I doubt the will surpassed Manny Pacquiao, experts believe that it takes a decade to see a fighter to surpass his record, so probably not coming from the active boxers now. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: aioc on November 19, 2021, 02:07:38 PM After becoming undisputed champion at super middleweight Canelo is now prepared for his next challenge. He will be moving up two weight classes to face WBC cruiserweight champion Ilunga Makabu. This opponent is not very well known but he has a high knockout percentage with 25 KOs in 28 victories and he has not had a loss in over 5 years. It will be an impressive feat if Canelo can become champion at cruiserweight after starting his career fighting in the jr. welterweight division. https://i.imgur.com/Eyme22D.png I have to watch some of Makabu's past fights to assess Canelo's chances against him, he is also a slow starter jab a lot with good head movement, I have never seen Canelo badly hurt from his welterweight up to his middleweight days and up now that is in the super welterweight and Makabu did not possess a Wilder kind of punch so I think Canelo has a pretty good chance, he is more technical and he knows how to counter any of his opponents best punches. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: DarkDays on November 19, 2021, 02:40:54 PM After becoming undisputed champion at super middleweight Canelo is now prepared for his next challenge. He will be moving up two weight classes to face WBC cruiserweight champion Ilunga Makabu. This opponent is not very well known but he has a high knockout percentage with 25 KOs in 28 victories and he has not had a loss in over 5 years. It will be an impressive feat if Canelo can become champion at cruiserweight after starting his career fighting in the jr. welterweight division. The upgrade in weight class will surely make it difficult for Canelo to compete at the home level of Ilunga. But then this guy seems to be pushing himself, he is a beast within his own devision but I don't know if this will be enough to go against Illunga who's fighting in his comfort zone. https://i.imgur.com/Eyme22D.png The fight will sure be interesting to watch and although I side with Canelo (knowing him and his fighting style) but if the tables turn I wouldn't be that surprised. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Fundamentals Of on November 19, 2021, 02:44:10 PM I can see nothing special with Ilunga Makabu. The man may be bigger and heavier but I guess Canelo is very much in his peak right now. I think Canelo can dismantle this boxer easily. Compared to Caleb, I think Makabu is the easier opponent. This man might only end up being a punching against Canelo. Since he has a bigger body, he will just become a bigger and easier target. Canelo's power is a destroyer. Makabu will likely end up knocked out.
Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: TopTort777 on November 19, 2021, 06:42:08 PM Hope this fight wont repeat Canelo vs Kovalev scenario, when bored of boxing Kovalev just sold his belt to Canelo.
I am not quite familiar with Makabu. On paper we just see numbers, but how is Makabu in action? Before I watch some of his fight, can you drop me a short review of him? At a glance he might have enough skills to give Canelo an equal fight. Why Canelo is smiling or laughing on the picture? No hate (yet) between them? Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: coin-investor on November 19, 2021, 09:55:53 PM After becoming undisputed champion at super middleweight Canelo is now prepared for his next challenge. He will be moving up two weight classes to face WBC cruiserweight champion Ilunga Makabu. This opponent is not very well known but he has a high knockout percentage with 25 KOs in 28 victories and he has not had a loss in over 5 years. It will be an impressive feat if Canelo can become champion at cruiserweight after starting his career fighting in the jr. welterweight division. https://i.imgur.com/Eyme22D.png There's not much height difference between the two fighters, Canelo has been fighting fighters that taller than him and who moves around, this is one of the time that he is facing a fighter who loves to engage and go toe to toe, this may be one of the reasons why they picked Makabu, Makabu does not run always moving forward, I've seen some of his fights he is strong but not really that dangerous. If Canelo can take a hard punch from Makabu he can also conquer the Cruiserweight division, I expect Canelo to be the favorite here. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Baofeng on November 19, 2021, 10:11:36 PM It looks like they are friendly in the convention, image for comparison:
https://i.imgur.com/uCWeQlq.png So Ilunga is obviously the natural bigger guy, but Canelo is fight this guy in my opinion. He will be going around 180 lbs, maybe we can see a fat Canelo, or a more muscular here, but I still him having a good chance to bet Ilunga at this division. Reminds of Pacquiao vs Clottey. I think Ilunga will just turtle up in this fight and get his biggest pay check. It seems that this is being set up by WBC itself. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: bisdak40 on November 19, 2021, 10:14:31 PM I can see nothing special with Ilunga Makabu. The man may be bigger and heavier but I guess Canelo is very much in his peak right now. I think Canelo can dismantle this boxer easily. Compared to Caleb, I think Makabu is the easier opponent. This man might only end up being a punching against Canelo. Since he has a bigger body, he will just become a bigger and easier target. Canelo's power is a destroyer. Makabu will likely end up knocked out. That remains to be seen because Makabu will be fighting in his comfort zone and obviously he is the bigger and heavier fighter. As I said, Canelo seems to be having problems fighting with heavier fighters, in fact, on one occasion it's stipulated in the contract the fight weight (forgot the opponent) so the opponent can't go bigger during the fight. Nevertheless, it's a good move for Canelo to push himself because there is not many fighters to fight in the Super Middleweight division. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Sled on November 19, 2021, 10:35:10 PM I can see nothing special with Ilunga Makabu. The man may be bigger and heavier but I guess Canelo is very much in his peak right now. I think Canelo can dismantle this boxer easily. Compared to Caleb, I think Makabu is the easier opponent. This man might only end up being a punching against Canelo. Since he has a bigger body, he will just become a bigger and easier target. Canelo's power is a destroyer. Makabu will likely end up knocked out. That remains to be seen because Makabu will be fighting in his comfort zone and obviously he is the bigger and heavier fighter. As I said, Canelo seems to be having problems fighting with heavier fighters, in fact, on one occasion it's stipulated in the contract the fight weight (forgot the opponent) so the opponent can't go bigger during the fight. Nevertheless, it's a good move for Canelo to push himself because there is not many fighters to fight in the Super Middleweight division. Well anyway, he can't learn more if he is not able to step forward and that was the time he could realize that he was wrong. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: YinShuiSiYuan on November 19, 2021, 10:40:12 PM Ilunga Makabu statistics look really impressive. He seems to be a very dangerous opponent for Canelo. However, if Canelo continues to train hard and takes this fight seriously, I think he will easily add a third defeat to the Congo figher record.
Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: AmoreJaz on November 19, 2021, 11:58:44 PM I can see nothing special with Ilunga Makabu. The man may be bigger and heavier but I guess Canelo is very much in his peak right now. I think Canelo can dismantle this boxer easily. Compared to Caleb, I think Makabu is the easier opponent. This man might only end up being a punching against Canelo. Since he has a bigger body, he will just become a bigger and easier target. Canelo's power is a destroyer. Makabu will likely end up knocked out. That remains to be seen because Makabu will be fighting in his comfort zone and obviously he is the bigger and heavier fighter. As I said, Canelo seems to be having problems fighting with heavier fighters, in fact, on one occasion it's stipulated in the contract the fight weight (forgot the opponent) so the opponent can't go bigger during the fight. Nevertheless, it's a good move for Canelo to push himself because there is not many fighters to fight in the Super Middleweight division. this is quite a challenge for canelo, he needs to train hard on this one as he increases his weight. makabu has the advantages but if canelo will formulate tactics on how to defeat him, given that makabu is in his comfort zone. am guessing the gap of odds will not be wide here. but canelo may be a slight favourite. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Fundamentals Of on November 20, 2021, 01:26:20 AM I can see nothing special with Ilunga Makabu. The man may be bigger and heavier but I guess Canelo is very much in his peak right now. I think Canelo can dismantle this boxer easily. Compared to Caleb, I think Makabu is the easier opponent. This man might only end up being a punching against Canelo. Since he has a bigger body, he will just become a bigger and easier target. Canelo's power is a destroyer. Makabu will likely end up knocked out. That remains to be seen because Makabu will be fighting in his comfort zone and obviously he is the bigger and heavier fighter. As I said, Canelo seems to be having problems fighting with heavier fighters, in fact, on one occasion it's stipulated in the contract the fight weight (forgot the opponent) so the opponent can't go bigger during the fight. Nevertheless, it's a good move for Canelo to push himself because there is not many fighters to fight in the Super Middleweight division. Of course everything remains to be seen. We are only looking at the various possibilities in this fight. I took a look at Ilunga Makabu's previous fight highlights and I cannot see how he would win against Canelo. If he cannot naturally float around for the entire 12 rounds, he will probably lose. Canelo's pressure is non-stop. It will definitely wear Makabu out. And also Canelo's chin could catch a strong and heavy punch. If Makabu will stick to brawling, he is no match for Canelo. In terms of boxing IQ, Ilunga Makabu must be much inferior to Canelo. *Please update your avatar and signature. A new set (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5233355.msg58452751#msg58452751) was released last Tuesday, November 16. I could say it was a big mistake for Canelo to jump to the next level, that probably it is not his comfort zone. If that prospected fight will commence, I don't bet Canelo. We know that he can fight hard and tough guys but with the height advantage of his opponent, that gonna be difficult for him honestly. Well anyway, he can't learn more if he is not able to step forward and that was the time he could realize that he was wrong. Are you then willing to put your money on Ilunga Makabu? The difference in height and reach is only around 4 inches. Caleb Plant has the same reach as Makabu and is even taller than him. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: judeafante on November 20, 2021, 02:10:00 AM Are you then willing to put your money on Ilunga Makabu? The difference in height and reach is only around 4 inches. Caleb Plant has the same reach as Makabu and is even taller than him. They are friendly with each other on their first face-off Makabu promised that he will knock out Canelo and claimed he made a big mistake of jumping to Cruiserweight, of course, this is easier than done, all of Canelo's opponents promised to knock him down but it ends up the other way around, I don't see Makabu doing this to Canelo and I believe he can take punches from cruiserweight, Pacquiao goes from flyweight to welterweight and he can take punches from big men. https://i.imgur.com/gI0RA5r.jpg Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: TheEconomists on November 20, 2021, 02:14:25 AM Since Canelo is moving to a higher level in the championship it will not be that easy for and no one should except much from him particularly now that is going to face an expert in that level who has lost fight since the last five years and not just that but has had 25 knockout win out of 28 victories.
Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Kemarit on November 20, 2021, 02:43:06 AM Since Canelo is moving to a higher level in the championship it will not be that easy for and no one should except much from him particularly now that is going to face an expert in that level who has lost fight since the last five years and not just that but has had 25 knockout win out of 28 victories. Of course, moving up in weight is not that easy specially gaining 10-20 lbs. And obviously, this is not Canelo's natural weight. But we've seen how great Canelo is, and he is chasing more greatness by moving to a new weight classes. I wouldn't call Ilunga Makabu a expert, he has losses already. The timing is right for Canelo to move up and win another belt and faces one of the weakest champion in the Cruiserweight division. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: AicecreaME on November 20, 2021, 06:59:54 AM This would be one hell of a fight knowing the background of both fighters, surely they would give the audience a great match. As we all know Canelo Alvarez is one of the greatest boxers we have right now. Alvarez has a reputable boxing record which made him famous because indeed, he fights so well and as an audience, you will never get bored of watching his battles because he is an aggressive boxer who knows well when to build up a defense as well. Meanwhile, Ilunga Makabu, despite his name not really being heard most of the time in boxing has a big reputation too. The cruiserweight champion has been in his position for a reason. Makabu has an inspiring story that showcases that anyone can bounce back after a failure.
Makabu has his fair share of losses that took a great impact on his boxing career. He started winning, ended up losing, and then he went back stronger on the boxing ring after his defeat. So far, Makabu has a record of 28 wins, 2 losses, and out of 28 wins, the 25 ones are all knock out's. His physique made an advantage for him to climb up on his position, and of course, his playing style most of all. They already have faced each other and both are very much confident they would win. It was said in an interview that Makabu is honored for their upcoming match because he wants to fight one of the bests after all. Makabu is confident he would bring home the titles and he'll show the difference of their divisions from each other. I can't really tell who will be the fight's favorite because both uphold such great track records. So, I guess let's just wait and see because they would certainly bring thrill and excitement once their game has started. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Jawhead999 on November 20, 2021, 08:07:36 AM Why not go and chase Bivol or Beterviev at LHW though? and chooses the weakest in the Cruiserweight champion in Makabu? I think it's a warming up for Alvarez before he fight with top boxer in LHW. It's will be insane if he fight with Beterviev, he's a nightmare in this weight with excellent record 100% KO and remain undefeated.Since he fight with taller boxer, we will see many Alvarez's body shots to Makabu ;D I'd say Makabu isn't weak... his punch is strong, but he's not fast as Alvarez this is the problem for him how to punch Alvarez more accurate. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on November 20, 2021, 08:24:06 AM Why not go and chase Bivol or Beterviev at LHW though? and chooses the weakest in the Cruiserweight champion in Makabu? I think it's a warming up for Alvarez before he fight with top boxer in LHW. It's will be insane if he fight with Beterviev, he's a nightmare in this weight with excellent record 100% KO and remain undefeated.Since he fight with taller boxer, we will see many Alvarez's body shots to Makabu ;D I'd say Makabu isn't weak... his punch is strong, but he's not fast as Alvarez this is the problem for him how to punch Alvarez more accurate. Maybe he will target the LHW later, but his eyes right now on getting another belt regardless of the weight category. And this will be his what? I can't remember, 5 weight belt already? Canelo is already known for his body shots, but he has developed the left hook in recent years with Canelo that we seldom see him throw it. However, it is still a weapons for any of his opponents, we saw him throwing it against Caleb so soften him up in later rounds. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: bitgov on November 20, 2021, 09:17:18 AM Since Canelo is moving to a higher level in the championship it will not be that easy for and no one should except much from him particularly now that is going to face an expert in that level who has lost fight since the last five years and not just that but has had 25 knockout win out of 28 victories. Of course, moving up in weight is not that easy specially gaining 10-20 lbs. And obviously, this is not Canelo's natural weight. But we've seen how great Canelo is, and he is chasing more greatness by moving to a new weight classes. I wouldn't call Ilunga Makabu a expert, he has losses already. The timing is right for Canelo to move up and win another belt and faces one of the weakest champion in the Cruiserweight division. I also think that this is the best moment for Canelo to pass to a higher weight class. In terms of skill I'm sure he'll be a better fighter than Makabu. The only thing that a Makabu can threaten him is strength. If Canelo dictate fast speed and pressure from the start, he would either win via KO or he would run out of strength. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: LogitechMouse on November 20, 2021, 09:29:47 AM Well, I think there is no need for him to stay at middleweight division and maybe he wants challenges as well like what he did when he jumped at a higher division and fought Kovalev. Now he is doing it again.
Like always since this is a huge jump from him, I'm not expecting too much from Canelo this time but if he manages to win this then... its the start of the new era for him again :D. After unifying the middleweight division, he wants to try another division again and this is a good start for him. I'm not belittling Makabu though but I think that Canelo has the upper hand here at least just because of how he is performing during his last fights. Still, Makabu is strong base on the videos that I saw on Youtube. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: harizen on November 20, 2021, 12:59:24 PM Honestly, to any boxer, moving up on weight class is more efficient compare to going down. It's hard to reach much lower weight requirements and that results in a dehydrated body. Canelo has a good decision to step up since no room for any achievements now on his current stage as he already claimed the title "undisputed" champion. But don't be deceived by Ilunga Makabu from being a not-known or unpopular boxer to others here. I'm sure he will give a Canelo a difficult match. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: agustina2 on November 20, 2021, 01:04:53 PM I can see nothing special with Ilunga Makabu. The man may be bigger and heavier but I guess Canelo is very much in his peak right now. I think Canelo can dismantle this boxer easily. Compared to Caleb, I think Makabu is the easier opponent. This man might only end up being a punching against Canelo. Since he has a bigger body, he will just become a bigger and easier target. Canelo's power is a destroyer. Makabu will likely end up knocked out. You have to consider that Canelo is the one stranger in Makabu's division. It's different from what happened in Caleb Plant where Canelo is already used to fighting on that division. Makabu will welcome Canelo at his convenient zone. I will never treat this fight against Makabu as easier compare to Caleb Plant. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: btc_angela on November 20, 2021, 01:59:30 PM I can see nothing special with Ilunga Makabu. The man may be bigger and heavier but I guess Canelo is very much in his peak right now. I think Canelo can dismantle this boxer easily. Compared to Caleb, I think Makabu is the easier opponent. This man might only end up being a punching against Canelo. Since he has a bigger body, he will just become a bigger and easier target. Canelo's power is a destroyer. Makabu will likely end up knocked out. You have to consider that Canelo is the one stranger in Makabu's division. It's different from what happened in Caleb Plant where Canelo is already used to fighting on that division. Makabu will welcome Canelo at his convenient zone. I will never treat this fight against Makabu as easier compare to Caleb Plant. Yes, definitely not an easy fight for Canelo, maybe he was really great at 168 lbs but this is a new territory for him weighting as high as 180 lbs for this fight. Not sure what Canelo's walking weight though, but it seems that above $170 lbs is too big for him. So let's see how will his body will adjust if he is hit by a legitimate CW in Makabu, maybe we can see some reaction from Canelo for the first time. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: fortunecrypto on November 20, 2021, 02:59:16 PM Is Canelo asking too much that he jumps from Super Middleweight to Cruiserweight, almost a heavyweight, I remember DeLa Hoya jumping from welterweight to Middleweight against Hopkins, Dela Hoya's additional weight put too much pressure as he cannot move fast but this is something interesting, Canelo wants to be the greatest Mexican boxer of all time and he cannot achieve it by being a champion in 4 weight category he must conquer territories, he has a great trainer in Reynoso, but the pressure in this weight category is too much. He can't be the greatest boxer of all time because at his age now, he cannot surpass the achievement of Manny Pacquiao which is the only 8th division world champion. however, he can always try to move up in weight and be a champion in such weight, we just have to believe in him just like him believing himself he could. He can be one of the greatest, but in terms of money earned he can surpass and become the biggest earner in boxing history, he's been fighting and beating champions in their prime, and he's going to the cruiserweight division means huge money coming in and new records and legacy reach, right now all eyes are on Canelo we are in Canelo's train which is now unstoppable and I don't think Makabu can stop the train. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: terrorJR on November 20, 2021, 04:44:20 PM I'm quite new to hearing the name Ilunga Makabu because maybe I don't really follow boxing and I only see boxing matches from names that really make me curious about their performance.
but if you look at the thread you wrote, it looks like Ilunga Makabu is a boxer that can't be underestimated either because even though Canelo is now in high confidence, this class is different. is there a date and where to watch this match? I'm really excited to see this match. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Gosgosking on November 20, 2021, 05:28:49 PM Canelo is a hard man, have seen many of his fight and he has always been in the winning side. He is an experienced fighter, makabu is an interesting fighter too, I can't predict how this match will be.
Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Silberman on November 20, 2021, 06:14:09 PM Great decision by Canelo Alvarez, moving up gives him a better opportunity to prove that he can become a champion in a high division. There's nothing for him to prove since he is already an undisputed champion in his current division. I thought that he will eventually move up a division but I thought that at first he could defend his titles once or twice before moving up, this proves the guy is ambitious and it is not afraid to make bold moves, it is going to be interesting to see if he can adjust to the division, after all the heavier the boxer the heavier the punches, so while in his division he was known as someone with a lot of punching power this is not going to necessarily remain true the higher he moves up.This fight has no official date yet but there's speculation that it will likely happen next year between May and June. Quote At the time of writing, an official date has yet to be announced by the WBC but what we do know is that the bout will be taking place around May and June 2022, giving the Mexican plenty of time to acclimatise himself to his new surroundings. ================ source : https://www.givemesport.com/1787062-canelo-alvarez-vs-ilunga-makabu-date-when-will-the-fight-take-place Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Ziskinberg on November 20, 2021, 08:49:27 PM Great decision by Canelo Alvarez, moving up gives him a better opportunity to prove that he can become a champion in a high division. There's nothing for him to prove since he is already an undisputed champion in his current division. I thought that he will eventually move up a division but I thought that at first he could defend his titles once or twice before moving up, this proves the guy is ambitious and it is not afraid to make bold moves, it is going to be interesting to see if he can adjust to the division, after all the heavier the boxer the heavier the punches, so while in his division he was known as someone with a lot of punching power this is not going to necessarily remain true the higher he moves up.This fight has no official date yet but there's speculation that it will likely happen next year between May and June. Quote At the time of writing, an official date has yet to be announced by the WBC but what we do know is that the bout will be taking place around May and June 2022, giving the Mexican plenty of time to acclimatise himself to his new surroundings. ================ source : https://www.givemesport.com/1787062-canelo-alvarez-vs-ilunga-makabu-date-when-will-the-fight-take-place He already made history being an undisputed champion in his current division, so there's no reason to stay and still continue defending his title. He is trying to challenge himself as most of his wins are easy wins, against a heavier and bigger opponent he might struggle, but we can't make a conclusion unless we see him fight. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: ene1980 on November 20, 2021, 09:35:08 PM Since Canelo is moving to a higher level in the championship it will not be that easy for and no one should except much from him particularly now that is going to face an expert in that level who has lost fight since the last five years and not just that but has had 25 knockout win out of 28 victories. Canelo Alvarez is a much better boxer than majority of the fighters and he is not moving up in the level of technical skills but in higher weight division and Canelo Alvarez is on a league of his own and he will be much faster and the skill level will be evident during the fight. I have not seen any of the fights by Ilunga Makabu and he is under the radar only because Canelo Alvarez is fighting him.Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: romero121 on November 20, 2021, 09:39:22 PM Honestly, to any boxer, moving up on weight class is more efficient compare to going down. It's hard to reach much lower weight requirements and that results in a dehydrated body. Canelo has a good decision to step up since no room for any achievements now on his current stage as he already claimed the title "undisputed" champion. But don't be deceived by Ilunga Makabu from being a not-known or unpopular boxer to others here. I'm sure he will give a Canelo a difficult match. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: AmoreJaz on November 20, 2021, 09:48:07 PM Since Canelo is moving to a higher level in the championship it will not be that easy for and no one should except much from him particularly now that is going to face an expert in that level who has lost fight since the last five years and not just that but has had 25 knockout win out of 28 victories. Canelo Alvarez is a much better boxer than majority of the fighters and he is not moving up in the level of technical skills but in higher weight division and Canelo Alvarez is on a league of his own and he will be much faster and the skill level will be evident during the fight. I have not seen any of the fights by Ilunga Makabu and he is under the radar only because Canelo Alvarez is fighting him.yes, let's admit that the name of canelo alvarez rings a bell than makabu. actually just heard of makabu because of this upcoming fight. so if nothing else, he will get the attention from the boxing community and may raise his paycheck at the end of the day. we will see if canelo can still outperform himself to a higher weight class. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: robelneo on November 20, 2021, 10:51:16 PM Since Canelo is moving to a higher level in the championship it will not be that easy for and no one should except much from him particularly now that is going to face an expert in that level who has lost fight since the last five years and not just that but has had 25 knockout win out of 28 victories. Of course, moving up in weight is not that easy specially gaining 10-20 lbs. And obviously, this is not Canelo's natural weight. But we've seen how great Canelo is, and he is chasing more greatness by moving to a new weight classes. I wouldn't call Ilunga Makabu a expert, he has losses already. The timing is right for Canelo to move up and win another belt and faces one of the weakest champion in the Cruiserweight division. A trainer as great as Eddie Reynoso and a boxer as great as Canelo knows the extend of what they can do and they know how to do it, they both know that they can beat Makabu they already scout him, they don't just pick a guy to fight, they know they have a very good chance beating him, Makabu is good and a hard puncher but he can only beat Canelo if he can catch him clean with a solid punch, but the big question can he do that against Canelo, Makabu posted that he will knock out Canelo, he can do that if he can connect, but he must first find a way to make it happen, with Canelo that's easier said than done. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: molsewid on November 21, 2021, 08:52:28 AM A trainer as great as Eddie Reynoso and a boxer as great as Canelo knows the extend of what they can do and they know how to do it, they both know that they can beat Makabu they already scout him, they don't just pick a guy to fight, they know they have a very good chance beating him, Makabu is good and a hard puncher but he can only beat Canelo if he can catch him clean with a solid punch, but the big question can he do that against Canelo, Makabu posted that he will knock out Canelo, he can do that if he can connect, but he must first find a way to make it happen, with Canelo that's easier said than done. Absolutely true, for sure the camp of Canelo had already assessed Ilangu Makabu before they accept the offer of before they finalizes their decision. Canelo is a great fighter in his recent division and I believe that even he might go up in step ahead from his division he will perform the same skills inside the ring however, of course we also knew that the quality and kind of fighters line up in the higher division was also a great fighter, so I think it would be a fight that Canelo will be challenge. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: smyslov on November 21, 2021, 09:33:56 AM We might see a version of Canelo like this: ;D https://i.imgur.com/XhkkVkv.png However, this is a very complicated situation for Canelo, he will be going up again and our body can only take that much of muscles and fats. Maybe he won't be that fast anymore because of all the weight that he is going to carry. The power though might still be there, but this is not his weight class. it will be very interesting to see the build-up so we'll have the general idea on what the fight will look like, the additional 30 pounds is quite huge, Canelo must have a good nutritionist and conditioning coach so he can carry his speed and power on that weight division, of course, the ring generalship is still there, but the additional weight will make an impact, it's up to Canelo's body to react if he can maintain the speed and power. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Jating on November 21, 2021, 10:04:19 AM ^^ For sure he will get the services of the best nutritionist out there, hmm, I just thinking maybe he will get Memo Heredia? Although we all know that Memo has a shady past, but he has cleared his name and been with many boxers and helping them out in the last 10 years.
And Canelo will be making another history for Mexican boxing here if he beat Makabu and take his cruserweight title. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Russlenat on November 21, 2021, 12:24:28 PM A trainer as great as Eddie Reynoso and a boxer as great as Canelo knows the extend of what they can do and they know how to do it, they both know that they can beat Makabu they already scout him, they don't just pick a guy to fight, they know they have a very good chance beating him, Makabu is good and a hard puncher but he can only beat Canelo if he can catch him clean with a solid punch, but the big question can he do that against Canelo, Makabu posted that he will knock out Canelo, he can do that if he can connect, but he must first find a way to make it happen, with Canelo that's easier said than done. Absolutely true, for sure the camp of Canelo had already assessed Ilangu Makabu before they accept the offer of before they finalizes their decision. Canelo is a great fighter in his recent division and I believe that even he might go up in step ahead from his division he will perform the same skills inside the ring however, of course we also knew that the quality and kind of fighters line up in the higher division was also a great fighter, so I think it would be a fight that Canelo will be challenge. I believe in Canelo, there's nothing I would doubt on him but he is not in his division, he will be facing a heavy fighter with a great KO power. Of course, the majority of the fans would go for Canelo as he is the popular boxer, but we don't know what Ilunga Makabu can do against Canelo which is smaller than him. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: btc_angela on November 21, 2021, 01:01:02 PM A trainer as great as Eddie Reynoso and a boxer as great as Canelo knows the extend of what they can do and they know how to do it, they both know that they can beat Makabu they already scout him, they don't just pick a guy to fight, they know they have a very good chance beating him, Makabu is good and a hard puncher but he can only beat Canelo if he can catch him clean with a solid punch, but the big question can he do that against Canelo, Makabu posted that he will knock out Canelo, he can do that if he can connect, but he must first find a way to make it happen, with Canelo that's easier said than done. Absolutely true, for sure the camp of Canelo had already assessed Ilangu Makabu before they accept the offer of before they finalizes their decision. Canelo is a great fighter in his recent division and I believe that even he might go up in step ahead from his division he will perform the same skills inside the ring however, of course we also knew that the quality and kind of fighters line up in the higher division was also a great fighter, so I think it would be a fight that Canelo will be challenge. I believe in Canelo, there's nothing I would doubt on him but he is not in his division, he will be facing a heavy fighter with a great KO power. Of course, the majority of the fans would go for Canelo as he is the popular boxer, but we don't know what Ilunga Makabu can do against Canelo which is smaller than him. I agree, let's see how Canelo will handle a full CW power once Makabu landed a solid punch on him. We all know that Canelo has a tough chin, however, this is a unknown territory for him. So as much as he is great and at his prime, he will have to adjust to the new weight. His speed and timing, everything has to be affected. If he pass this test, then definitely, Canelo up there with the best all time greats. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Ziskinberg on November 21, 2021, 01:28:14 PM A trainer as great as Eddie Reynoso and a boxer as great as Canelo knows the extend of what they can do and they know how to do it, they both know that they can beat Makabu they already scout him, they don't just pick a guy to fight, they know they have a very good chance beating him, Makabu is good and a hard puncher but he can only beat Canelo if he can catch him clean with a solid punch, but the big question can he do that against Canelo, Makabu posted that he will knock out Canelo, he can do that if he can connect, but he must first find a way to make it happen, with Canelo that's easier said than done. Absolutely true, for sure the camp of Canelo had already assessed Ilangu Makabu before they accept the offer of before they finalizes their decision. Canelo is a great fighter in his recent division and I believe that even he might go up in step ahead from his division he will perform the same skills inside the ring however, of course we also knew that the quality and kind of fighters line up in the higher division was also a great fighter, so I think it would be a fight that Canelo will be challenge. I believe in Canelo, there's nothing I would doubt on him but he is not in his division, he will be facing a heavy fighter with a great KO power. Of course, the majority of the fans would go for Canelo as he is the popular boxer, but we don't know what Ilunga Makabu can do against Canelo which is smaller than him. I agree, let's see how Canelo will handle a full CW power once Makabu landed a solid punch on him. We all know that Canelo has a tough chin, however, this is a unknown territory for him. So as much as he is great and at his prime, he will have to adjust to the new weight. His speed and timing, everything has to be affected. If he pass this test, then definitely, Canelo up there with the best all time greats. He wouldn't move up in weight if he feels, he cannot do it, we've seen him fight and we saw how great he is. He is a hard working fighter, he will do everything to win and since he achieve the highest success in his division, moving up in weight is always a great idea. And by the way, I just checked and see the odds are already available, and it favors on Canelo. Quote Canelo Alvarez vs Ilunga Makabu Odds https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/canelo-alvarez-vs-ilunga-makabu-odds/Boxer Odds Saul “Canelo” Alvarez -700 Ilunga Makabu +500 Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: fortunecrypto on November 21, 2021, 01:43:31 PM I believe in Canelo, there's nothing I would doubt on him but he is not in his division, he will be facing a heavy fighter with a great KO power. Of course, the majority of the fans would go for Canelo as he is the popular boxer, but we don't know what Ilunga Makabu can do against Canelo which is smaller than him. He might have a knock out power but Canelo is never a punching bag Problem of all those he fought and beaten is how they can connect to a fighter who knows how to roll and make you miss and counter punch or attack at the same time, Mukabu just announced that he will knock out Canelo, that's what Canelo's opponent has said, Mukabu belt will just become additional to Canelo's legacy. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: romero121 on November 21, 2021, 05:26:54 PM A trainer as great as Eddie Reynoso and a boxer as great as Canelo knows the extend of what they can do and they know how to do it, they both know that they can beat Makabu they already scout him, they don't just pick a guy to fight, they know they have a very good chance beating him, Makabu is good and a hard puncher but he can only beat Canelo if he can catch him clean with a solid punch, but the big question can he do that against Canelo, Makabu posted that he will knock out Canelo, he can do that if he can connect, but he must first find a way to make it happen, with Canelo that's easier said than done. Absolutely true, for sure the camp of Canelo had already assessed Ilangu Makabu before they accept the offer of before they finalizes their decision. Canelo is a great fighter in his recent division and I believe that even he might go up in step ahead from his division he will perform the same skills inside the ring however, of course we also knew that the quality and kind of fighters line up in the higher division was also a great fighter, so I think it would be a fight that Canelo will be challenge. I believe in Canelo, there's nothing I would doubt on him but he is not in his division, he will be facing a heavy fighter with a great KO power. Of course, the majority of the fans would go for Canelo as he is the popular boxer, but we don't know what Ilunga Makabu can do against Canelo which is smaller than him. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Alanaz on November 21, 2021, 05:51:47 PM Canelo is currently in high confidence after beating Plant a while back and he now wants a new adventure in a different class.
but Ilunga Makabu is not a fighter to be underestimated, his record is quite impressive and might even be called terrible by not losing for the last few years. this is something worth waiting for whether magic and superior canelo will still continue or be stuck in Makabu's hands. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Fundamentals Of on November 22, 2021, 01:11:25 AM I can see nothing special with Ilunga Makabu. The man may be bigger and heavier but I guess Canelo is very much in his peak right now. I think Canelo can dismantle this boxer easily. Compared to Caleb, I think Makabu is the easier opponent. This man might only end up being a punching against Canelo. Since he has a bigger body, he will just become a bigger and easier target. Canelo's power is a destroyer. Makabu will likely end up knocked out. You have to consider that Canelo is the one stranger in Makabu's division. It's different from what happened in Caleb Plant where Canelo is already used to fighting on that division. Makabu will welcome Canelo at his convenient zone. I will never treat this fight against Makabu as easier compare to Caleb Plant. I understand that Canelo is entering uncharted waters here but let's leave that to his team of nutritionists and conditioning experts. It adds to making the job easier that Canelo is willingly choosing this path. I guess it makes him more challenged knowing that he is already the king in super middleweight. I don't think Canelo will find it hard to adjust to a heavier body. After all he is not the kind of fighter who dances around and is dependent on speed which are what's going to be affected by an increase in body size and weight. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Oasisman on November 22, 2021, 05:53:49 AM He wouldn't move up in weight if he feels, he cannot do it, we've seen him fight and we saw how great he is. He is a hard working fighter, he will do everything to win and since he achieve the highest success in his division, moving up in weight is always a great idea. And by the way, I just checked and see the odds are already available, and it favors on Canelo. Quote Canelo Alvarez vs Ilunga Makabu Odds https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/canelo-alvarez-vs-ilunga-makabu-odds/Boxer Odds Saul “Canelo” Alvarez -700 Ilunga Makabu +500 Well, that's what excellent fighters does. Move up when you think you have the momentum and nobody else in your current weight division is capable of beating you. You're right, Canelo won't climb up the ladder if he thinks he's not ready for it. I think the odds has a huge difference, I mean Makabu ain't a mediocre boxer. He has power, hand speed, head movements, and the ability to go toe-to-toe against Canelo. However, I still favor Canelo in this match up, and I feel like Makabu can really match Canelo in this fight. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Distinctin on November 22, 2021, 06:22:14 AM He wouldn't move up in weight if he feels, he cannot do it, we've seen him fight and we saw how great he is. He is a hard working fighter, he will do everything to win and since he achieve the highest success in his division, moving up in weight is always a great idea. And by the way, I just checked and see the odds are already available, and it favors on Canelo. Quote Canelo Alvarez vs Ilunga Makabu Odds https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/canelo-alvarez-vs-ilunga-makabu-odds/Boxer Odds Saul “Canelo” Alvarez -700 Ilunga Makabu +500 Well, that's what excellent fighters does. Move up when you think you have the momentum and nobody else in your current weight division is capable of beating you. You're right, Canelo won't climb up the ladder if he thinks he's not ready for it. I think the odds has a huge difference, I mean Makabu ain't a mediocre boxer. He has power, hand speed, head movements, and the ability to go toe-to-toe against Canelo. However, I still favor Canelo in this match up, and I feel like Makabu can really match Canelo in this fight. I guess the +500 for Makabu is very attractive, we haven't seen Canelo fight against a heavier and bigger figher, so we don't know if he can bring his power and speed here that's why it's nice to gamble on the underdog, just don't put a lot of money because +500 would already give a satisfying return if you win. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: TimeTeller on November 22, 2021, 01:38:56 PM He wouldn't move up in weight if he feels, he cannot do it, we've seen him fight and we saw how great he is. He is a hard working fighter, he will do everything to win and since he achieve the highest success in his division, moving up in weight is always a great idea. And by the way, I just checked and see the odds are already available, and it favors on Canelo. Quote Canelo Alvarez vs Ilunga Makabu Odds https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/canelo-alvarez-vs-ilunga-makabu-odds/Boxer Odds Saul “Canelo” Alvarez -700 Ilunga Makabu +500 Well, that's what excellent fighters does. Move up when you think you have the momentum and nobody else in your current weight division is capable of beating you. You're right, Canelo won't climb up the ladder if he thinks he's not ready for it. I think the odds has a huge difference, I mean Makabu ain't a mediocre boxer. He has power, hand speed, head movements, and the ability to go toe-to-toe against Canelo. However, I still favor Canelo in this match up, and I feel like Makabu can really match Canelo in this fight. I guess the +500 for Makabu is very attractive, we haven't seen Canelo fight against a heavier and bigger figher, so we don't know if he can bring his power and speed here that's why it's nice to gamble on the underdog, just don't put a lot of money because +500 would already give a satisfying return if you win. If not, check for the odds at over/under money line. If Canelo decided to climb up, it means, he is confident that he can perform on this weight division. Let's wait for the odds given by crypto bookies as they don't have it yet. This fight will be worth watching as Canelo is a very good fighter. Not familiar with Makabu but his record is quite good also, so Canelo should be preparing hard for this one. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: qwertyup23 on November 22, 2021, 03:43:15 PM And by the way, I just checked and see the odds are already available, and it favors on Canelo. Quote Canelo Alvarez vs Ilunga Makabu Odds https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/canelo-alvarez-vs-ilunga-makabu-odds/Boxer Odds Saul “Canelo” Alvarez -700 Ilunga Makabu +500 Damn, those odds are definitely attractive. I might actually pull the plug and gamble against Canelo in this case. While I do understand that Canelo is undisputed the greatest boxer in his weight division, increasing it more and fighting boxers in CW may pose some danger given the fact that this would be the first time that he will be doing this. Though the Canelo's fight against Caleb Plant showed on how dominant he can be in the ring, fighting a boxer in CW is one of those fights that one punch could seal the deal to either boxers. Due to this factor and the odds, I would vote against Canelo and for Makabu. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: South Park on November 22, 2021, 10:07:47 PM We might see a version of Canelo like this: ;D https://i.imgur.com/XhkkVkv.png However, this is a very complicated situation for Canelo, he will be going up again and our body can only take that much of muscles and fats. Maybe he won't be that fast anymore because of all the weight that he is going to carry. The power though might still be there, but this is not his weight class. it will be very interesting to see the build-up so we'll have the general idea on what the fight will look like, the additional 30 pounds is quite huge, Canelo must have a good nutritionist and conditioning coach so he can carry his speed and power on that weight division, of course, the ring generalship is still there, but the additional weight will make an impact, it's up to Canelo's body to react if he can maintain the speed and power. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: TopTort777 on November 23, 2021, 11:29:30 AM And Canelo will be making another history for Mexican boxing here if he beat Makabu and take his cruserweight title. Then he already signed his name in boxing hall of fame when he beat Kovalev and won light heavy WBO title (which, if not mistaken, he instantly resigned and made vacant lol). I hope that Canelo will stay in cruiserweight, or drop to light heavy. Because there is nothing left for him to do in middleweight. He should made all this titles in middleweight vacant, get belts in more heavy division, and then get back to middleweight and beat everyone again. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Hypnosis00 on November 23, 2021, 01:12:51 PM And Canelo will be making another history for Mexican boxing here if he beat Makabu and take his cruserweight title. Then he already signed his name in boxing hall of fame when he beat Kovalev and won light heavy WBO title (which, if not mistaken, he instantly resigned and made vacant lol). I hope that Canelo will stay in cruiserweight, or drop to light heavy. Because there is nothing left for him to do in middleweight. He should made all this titles in middleweight vacant, get belts in more heavy division, and then get back to middleweight and beat everyone again. Now that Canelo has already decided, I'm sure it's a good decision and he is a real champion because he didn't stay in one division only after he became an undisputed fighter. Everyone is excited to see him again, the name Canelo will never be forgotten in boxing and fans loved him so much because of his being a humble boxer. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Silberman on November 23, 2021, 07:56:59 PM I thought that he will eventually move up a division but I thought that at first he could defend his titles once or twice before moving up, this proves the guy is ambitious and it is not afraid to make bold moves, it is going to be interesting to see if he can adjust to the division, after all the heavier the boxer the heavier the punches, so while in his division he was known as someone with a lot of punching power this is not going to necessarily remain true the higher he moves up. He already made history being an undisputed champion in his current division, so there's no reason to stay and still continue defending his title. He is trying to challenge himself as most of his wins are easy wins, against a heavier and bigger opponent he might struggle, but we can't make a conclusion unless we see him fight. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Yaunfitda on November 23, 2021, 11:23:51 PM And Canelo will be making another history for Mexican boxing here if he beat Makabu and take his cruserweight title. Then he already signed his name in boxing hall of fame when he beat Kovalev and won light heavy WBO title (which, if not mistaken, he instantly resigned and made vacant lol). I hope that Canelo will stay in cruiserweight, or drop to light heavy. Because there is nothing left for him to do in middleweight. He should made all this titles in middleweight vacant, get belts in more heavy division, and then get back to middleweight and beat everyone again. So maybe after the CW campaign and he won the belt, maybe he will go down and chase and clean up the LightHW for good, similar to what he did in MW and super MW and then retire with only the Floyd lost on his career. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 24, 2021, 12:02:42 AM I believe in Canelo, there's nothing I would doubt on him but he is not in his division, he will be facing a heavy fighter with a great KO power. Of course, the majority of the fans would go for Canelo as he is the popular boxer, but we don't know what Ilunga Makabu can do against Canelo which is smaller than him. He might have a knock out power but Canelo is never a punching bag Problem of all those he fought and beaten is how they can connect to a fighter who knows how to roll and make you miss and counter punch or attack at the same time, Mukabu just announced that he will knock out Canelo, that's what Canelo's opponent has said, Mukabu belt will just become additional to Canelo's legacy. Although it is not Canelo's category, I think that Canelo must go to the next level and the way to do it is by beating Ilunga, I do not question Ilunga's ability to win fights, give knockouts, but Canelo is really a fighting machine. give punches, and his knockouts are not something negligible, I think that if Canelo is going to take this step he must show what he is made of, it is time to show his full potential, that now if those who did not believe in him start doing it and give him the position he always wants to have. Canelo's last fight was a display of great technique and great skill that the boxer has, not only did it show how much control he has in his fight but when he decided to end the fight, this is something that he cannot forget any boxer even if he is not in his category. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Dave1 on November 24, 2021, 01:02:37 AM I believe in Canelo, there's nothing I would doubt on him but he is not in his division, he will be facing a heavy fighter with a great KO power. Of course, the majority of the fans would go for Canelo as he is the popular boxer, but we don't know what Ilunga Makabu can do against Canelo which is smaller than him. He might have a knock out power but Canelo is never a punching bag Problem of all those he fought and beaten is how they can connect to a fighter who knows how to roll and make you miss and counter punch or attack at the same time, Mukabu just announced that he will knock out Canelo, that's what Canelo's opponent has said, Mukabu belt will just become additional to Canelo's legacy. Although it is not Canelo's category, I think that Canelo must go to the next level and the way to do it is by beating Ilunga, I do not question Ilunga's ability to win fights, give knockouts, but Canelo is really a fighting machine. give punches, and his knockouts are not something negligible, I think that if Canelo is going to take this step he must show what he is made of, it is time to show his full potential, that now if those who did not believe in him start doing it and give him the position he always wants to have. Canelo's last fight was a display of great technique and great skill that the boxer has, not only did it show how much control he has in his fight but when he decided to end the fight, this is something that he cannot forget any boxer even if he is not in his category. Yes, he really need to go up in weight classes as there are no more challenges for him in the middleweight division as he beat all the champions in that division. It's that that he skip the light heavyweight and go directly to a more heavier weight class. But maybe they have their own reasons like Ilunga Makabu is a weaker champion that's why they chooses him to be his next opponent. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Fundamentals Of on November 24, 2021, 02:37:58 AM But maybe they have their own reasons like Ilunga Makabu is a weaker champion that's why they chooses him to be his next opponent. I guess Ilunga Makabu is the easier target here. And there is also the reward of being a champion in 5 different weight classes. Of course it is a challenge to Canelo facing an opponent of a different weight class which has a weight limit of up to 200 pounds. That's a lot of weight. But we have seen Canelo fought from 154 pounds all the way to 175 pounds. I think if he was able to handle Kovalev and even knocked him out at 175 there is really no doubt he could take Ilunga Makabu and even knock him out as well. Canelo has got the power. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: lienfaye on November 24, 2021, 03:43:25 AM After becoming undisputed champion at super middleweight Canelo is now prepared for his next challenge. He will be moving up two weight classes to face WBC cruiserweight champion Ilunga Makabu. This opponent is not very well known but he has a high knockout percentage with 25 KOs in 28 victories and he has not had a loss in over 5 years. It will be an impressive feat if Canelo can become champion at cruiserweight after starting his career fighting in the jr. welterweight division. Makabu is not well known in boxing world but his record shows that he is not an easy opponent. But does he have a previous opponent that he won through KO which is familiar to anyone? If not, then this fight is his big break to become popular.On the other side, no doubt Canelo would be the favorite here especially after his recent fight to Plant. Once again he proved himself as a legend. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Finestream on November 24, 2021, 05:47:23 AM Undisputed super middleweight champion Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez is not worried about the size he needs to make up ahead of his cruiserweight fight in 2022.
The 168lb Mexican star is set to fight WBC champion Ilunga Makabu in May 2022, where there is a top weight limit of 200lbs. Source: https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/amp/boxing/saul-canelo-alvarez-plans-to-fight-ilunga-makabu-at-180lb-not-worried-by-difference/yehtj8suzeox19nzggb76z94v After Canelo have won against Caleb, he's now in for a much bigger match against the undefeated Congolese fighter who holds the title in cruiserweight. This leaves Canelo for about 6 months to prepare, and note that Makabu is known to have a lethal punch with a knockout percentage of 95%. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Rufsilf on November 24, 2021, 06:23:16 AM After becoming undisputed champion at super middleweight Canelo is now prepared for his next challenge. He will be moving up two weight classes to face WBC cruiserweight champion Ilunga Makabu. This opponent is not very well known but he has a high knockout percentage with 25 KOs in 28 victories and he has not had a loss in over 5 years. It will be an impressive feat if Canelo can become champion at cruiserweight after starting his career fighting in the jr. welterweight division. Makabu is not well known in boxing world but his record shows that he is not an easy opponent. But does he have a previous opponent that he won through KO which is familiar to anyone? If not, then this fight is his big break to become popular.On the other side, no doubt Canelo would be the favorite here especially after his recent fight to Plant. Once again he proved himself as a legend. Such a very short notice for Canelo to prepare against this powerful and undefeated opponent but I know Canelo will be able to stand this fight knowing his skills and brilliant mind. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on November 24, 2021, 08:30:25 AM After becoming undisputed champion at super middleweight Canelo is now prepared for his next challenge. He will be moving up two weight classes to face WBC cruiserweight champion Ilunga Makabu. This opponent is not very well known but he has a high knockout percentage with 25 KOs in 28 victories and he has not had a loss in over 5 years. It will be an impressive feat if Canelo can become champion at cruiserweight after starting his career fighting in the jr. welterweight division. Makabu is not well known in boxing world but his record shows that he is not an easy opponent. But does he have a previous opponent that he won through KO which is familiar to anyone? If not, then this fight is his big break to become popular.On the other side, no doubt Canelo would be the favorite here especially after his recent fight to Plant. Once again he proved himself as a legend. Such a very short notice for Canelo to prepare against this powerful and undefeated opponent but I know Canelo will be able to stand this fight knowing his skills and brilliant mind. I guess everyone would agree that Makabu name doesn't ring a bell to the majority of us. I mean the weight class the most everyone followed is the 147 lbs and above that, we don't know that much except maybe GGG in 160 and Canelo in 168 and then the HW champions. I think Canelo though has enough time to prepare for this fight and he doesn't need to weight drain himself to make the CW limit. And he can only go 180 lbs and still consider a CW. He can make 168 lbs easy because that's what his body is used to, but he can still go and build considerable muscle to reach the CW. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Questat on November 24, 2021, 09:49:56 AM After becoming undisputed champion at super middleweight Canelo is now prepared for his next challenge. He will be moving up two weight classes to face WBC cruiserweight champion Ilunga Makabu. This opponent is not very well known but he has a high knockout percentage with 25 KOs in 28 victories and he has not had a loss in over 5 years. It will be an impressive feat if Canelo can become champion at cruiserweight after starting his career fighting in the jr. welterweight division. Makabu is not well known in boxing world but his record shows that he is not an easy opponent. But does he have a previous opponent that he won through KO which is familiar to anyone? If not, then this fight is his big break to become popular.On the other side, no doubt Canelo would be the favorite here especially after his recent fight to Plant. Once again he proved himself as a legend. Such a very short notice for Canelo to prepare against this powerful and undefeated opponent but I know Canelo will be able to stand this fight knowing his skills and brilliant mind. I guess everyone would agree that Makabu name doesn't ring a bell to the majority of us. I mean the weight class the most everyone followed is the 147 lbs and above that, we don't know that much except maybe GGG in 160 and Canelo in 168 and then the HW champions. I think Canelo though has enough time to prepare for this fight and he doesn't need to weight drain himself to make the CW limit. And he can only go 180 lbs and still consider a CW. He can make 168 lbs easy because that's what his body is used to, but he can still go and build considerable muscle to reach the CW. Of course, that's why Canelo is a heavy favorite because his opponent is not a popular fighter, however, if you look at his boxing record, you gotta respect the guy because he really has the power, and since this is a new division, we should not be too confident that Canelo would still dominate. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: TopTort777 on November 24, 2021, 01:35:22 PM And Canelo will be making another history for Mexican boxing here if he beat Makabu and take his cruserweight title. Then he already signed his name in boxing hall of fame when he beat Kovalev and won light heavy WBO title (which, if not mistaken, he instantly resigned and made vacant lol). I hope that Canelo will stay in cruiserweight, or drop to light heavy. Because there is nothing left for him to do in middleweight. He should made all this titles in middleweight vacant, get belts in more heavy division, and then get back to middleweight and beat everyone again. So maybe after the CW campaign and he won the belt, maybe he will go down and chase and clean up the LightHW for good, similar to what he did in MW and super MW and then retire with only the Floyd lost on his career. I think that Canelo should move to lightheavy and stay there. He is able to beat if not everyone, then most of boxers in this division. Being a champ in cruiserweight might be a bit difficult for him. Previously undisputed champion in cruiserweight was Olexander Usyk. Now one of most dangerous fighters there is Mairis Briedis (TBRB, IBF, Rings champion). He is a copy of Usyk. He might be a hard nut to crack; he might even lose. So lightheavy is the best for future Canelo. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: agustina2 on November 24, 2021, 02:43:20 PM Of course, that's why Canelo is a heavy favorite because his opponent is not a popular fighter, however, if you look at his boxing record, you gotta respect the guy because he really has the power, and since this is a new division, we should not be too confident that Canelo would still dominate. Makabu is a popular fighter but since everyone is not a boxing enthusiast here and only those obvious popular boxers are being discussed here, only a few know his name. But you are right, Canelo is the one entering a new stage and his opponent is already used to fighting on that weight level so we should never underestimate Makabu on that part. Now to Makabu, he should not take that as an advantage as even Canelo is new to the weight class, he has already the talent and skill to fight any fighter at that weight class. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: mu_enrico on November 24, 2021, 03:56:45 PM Quote Ilunga Makabu has told Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez he is making a big mistake moving up to cruiserweight and insists he will ‘100 per cent’ knock the Mexican superstar out. Source: Ilunga Makabu vows he will knockout Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez as Mexican will give away TWO STONE in cruiserweight title fight (https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/985962/ilunga-makabu-ko-saul-canelo-alvarez-title-record-cruiserweight/)You know, I didn't expect Canelo to "give away" 20 lbs (no FAT CANELO lol) and I'm not sure he still has powerful punches since cruiserweight boxers maybe all punch as hard as him. But if you believe this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn17Hb73mX8) really happened, then, who knows!? Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Alanaz on November 24, 2021, 06:26:12 PM But maybe they have their own reasons like Ilunga Makabu is a weaker champion that's why they chooses him to be his next opponent. I guess Ilunga Makabu is the easier target here. And there is also the reward of being a champion in 5 different weight classes. Of course it is a challenge to Canelo facing an opponent of a different weight class which has a weight limit of up to 200 pounds. That's a lot of weight. But we have seen Canelo fought from 154 pounds all the way to 175 pounds. I think if he was able to handle Kovalev and even knocked him out at 175 there is really no doubt he could take Ilunga Makabu and even knock him out as well. Canelo has got the power. On the other hand, Makabu is also very big and actually Canelo's speed is quite superior because if I saw the previous Makabu match he was a boxer who was not fast enough and Canelo had to take advantage of this well Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Mahanton on November 24, 2021, 11:53:43 PM But maybe they have their own reasons like Ilunga Makabu is a weaker champion that's why they chooses him to be his next opponent. I guess Ilunga Makabu is the easier target here. And there is also the reward of being a champion in 5 different weight classes. Of course it is a challenge to Canelo facing an opponent of a different weight class which has a weight limit of up to 200 pounds. That's a lot of weight. But we have seen Canelo fought from 154 pounds all the way to 175 pounds. I think if he was able to handle Kovalev and even knocked him out at 175 there is really no doubt he could take Ilunga Makabu and even knock him out as well. Canelo has got the power. On the other hand, Makabu is also very big and actually Canelo's speed is quite superior because if I saw the previous Makabu match he was a boxer who was not fast enough and Canelo had to take advantage of this well Stepping on heavier division does really need adjustment because speed is one of the most common factor that would be mainly affect yet you had become heavier but well for something like Canelo then it wouldnt really be that much of an issue. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: romero121 on November 24, 2021, 11:59:26 PM Quote Ilunga Makabu has told Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez he is making a big mistake moving up to cruiserweight and insists he will ‘100 per cent’ knock the Mexican superstar out. Source: Ilunga Makabu vows he will knockout Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez as Mexican will give away TWO STONE in cruiserweight title fight (https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/985962/ilunga-makabu-ko-saul-canelo-alvarez-title-record-cruiserweight/)You know, I didn't expect Canelo to "give away" 20 lbs (no FAT CANELO lol) and I'm not sure he still has powerful punches since cruiserweight boxers maybe all punch as hard as him. But if you believe this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn17Hb73mX8) really happened, then, who knows!? Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: harizen on November 25, 2021, 01:09:50 AM Honestly, to any boxer, moving up on weight class is more efficient compare to going down. It's hard to reach much lower weight requirements and that results in a dehydrated body. Canelo has a good decision to step up since no room for any achievements now on his current stage as he already claimed the title "undisputed" champion. But don't be deceived by Ilunga Makabu from being a not-known or unpopular boxer to others here. I'm sure he will give a Canelo a difficult match. On point. Canelo needs to boost weight and he might not comfortable with it at first while Makabu will just maintain his usual weight. In other words, no need for the latter to work hard for the catch-up weight class before the weigh-in. However, we have to take note that Canelo, when he's really decided, can always keep up the phase. An effort to increase his weight while maintaining his speed and reflexes should not be a problem to the likes of him. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: molsewid on November 25, 2021, 03:50:14 AM “I believe in my power and my skills" says Makabu and this is going be a big challenge. He himself have prepared for it. He has understood that the match is 50-50 challenge which shows he has well studied about Canelo. He mentioned this fight is going to be a history. He consider it the most difficult challenge of his carrier. His confidence keeps boosting. The good thing about Makabu is that he knows that Canelo is not just a small fighter that he must take easily to fight on, he acknowledge his skills and ability and he also acknowledge the capabilities of Canelo and accept that their upcoming fight will be one of his difficult fight, he do also not bragging it and not talking shit to his opponent. I will definitely going to watch their fight but in case the odds will be available I think I will going to bet with Makabu instead. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Kemarit on November 25, 2021, 04:12:04 AM Quote Ilunga Makabu has told Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez he is making a big mistake moving up to cruiserweight and insists he will ‘100 per cent’ knock the Mexican superstar out. Source: Ilunga Makabu vows he will knockout Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez as Mexican will give away TWO STONE in cruiserweight title fight (https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/985962/ilunga-makabu-ko-saul-canelo-alvarez-title-record-cruiserweight/)You know, I didn't expect Canelo to "give away" 20 lbs (no FAT CANELO lol) and I'm not sure he still has powerful punches since cruiserweight boxers maybe all punch as hard as him. But if you believe this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn17Hb73mX8) really happened, then, who knows!? Well that's what everyone says before they fight Canelo, that they are going to be an upset and that the fight is 50-50. But then again, Canelo put up a show and either TKO/KO his opponents very easily. I know that Canelo will be stepping up the plate here with a huge jump in weight class, but I know that his team knows what they are up to against Makabu and the chances of Canelo to win is very big. Maybe a couple of rounds and then Canelo will adjust. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: rodskee on November 25, 2021, 07:00:43 AM After becoming undisputed champion at super middleweight Canelo is now prepared for his next challenge. He will be moving up two weight classes to face WBC cruiserweight champion Ilunga Makabu. This opponent is not very well known but he has a high knockout percentage with 25 KOs in 28 victories and he has not had a loss in over 5 years. It will be an impressive feat if Canelo can become champion at cruiserweight after starting his career fighting in the jr. welterweight division. The last boxer that beats Manny Pacquiao is also Not know as how Manny was but yet defeated the world champion.https://i.imgur.com/Eyme22D.png So it does not matter how popular Canelo is the important part is How he will beat Makabu , though yeah according to their stats Alvarez is really in favor for this bout . Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Finestream on November 25, 2021, 07:34:43 AM Quote Ilunga Makabu has told Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez he is making a big mistake moving up to cruiserweight and insists he will ‘100 per cent’ knock the Mexican superstar out. Source: Ilunga Makabu vows he will knockout Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez as Mexican will give away TWO STONE in cruiserweight title fight (https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/985962/ilunga-makabu-ko-saul-canelo-alvarez-title-record-cruiserweight/)You know, I didn't expect Canelo to "give away" 20 lbs (no FAT CANELO lol) and I'm not sure he still has powerful punches since cruiserweight boxers maybe all punch as hard as him. But if you believe this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn17Hb73mX8) really happened, then, who knows!? That's why even if it's just 6months preparation for Canelo, he should train twice as possible because he's entering another division that aren't his mastery field. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: btc78 on November 25, 2021, 08:28:04 AM Quote Ilunga Makabu has told Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez he is making a big mistake moving up to cruiserweight and insists he will ‘100 per cent’ knock the Mexican superstar out. Source: Ilunga Makabu vows he will knockout Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez as Mexican will give away TWO STONE in cruiserweight title fight (https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/985962/ilunga-makabu-ko-saul-canelo-alvarez-title-record-cruiserweight/)You know, I didn't expect Canelo to "give away" 20 lbs (no FAT CANELO lol) and I'm not sure he still has powerful punches since cruiserweight boxers maybe all punch as hard as him. But if you believe this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn17Hb73mX8) really happened, then, who knows!? That's why even if it's just 6months preparation for Canelo, he should train twice as possible because he's entering another division that aren't his mastery field. Quote Boxing record Total fights 30 Wins 28 Wins by KO 25 Losses 2 But of course not enough for Alvarez record Quote Boxing record Total fights 60 Wins 57 Wins by KO 39 Losses 1 Draws 2 But both fighter has a powerful punches and a Knockout Punchers so this is a ver exciting fight that we must not Missed watching and betting . Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Alanaz on November 26, 2021, 08:29:17 AM even so now is a big challenge for canelo because indeed he has just stepped on a heavier class than before even though he is indeed very strong but this is a new class and he may have to adjust his strategy again in this match. Might not be fast but punches were strong which he should really be that not too confident when it comes to his defenses or in overall he shouldnt really be that too careless.On the other hand, Makabu is also very big and actually Canelo's speed is quite superior because if I saw the previous Makabu match he was a boxer who was not fast enough and Canelo had to take advantage of this well Stepping on heavier division does really need adjustment because speed is one of the most common factor that would be mainly affect yet you had become heavier but well for something like Canelo then it wouldnt really be that much of an issue. but indeed as you said maybe the macabu is not fast enough but the shot is very crazy and even I remember when he managed to beat Kudryashov some time ago at that time the macabu shot was so terrible especially the hook he did. it's not impossible that if canelo is not careful he will be made like Kudryashov by ending up battered at the hands of Makabu Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Vaculin on November 26, 2021, 01:00:59 PM even so now is a big challenge for canelo because indeed he has just stepped on a heavier class than before even though he is indeed very strong but this is a new class and he may have to adjust his strategy again in this match. Might not be fast but punches were strong which he should really be that not too confident when it comes to his defenses or in overall he shouldnt really be that too careless.On the other hand, Makabu is also very big and actually Canelo's speed is quite superior because if I saw the previous Makabu match he was a boxer who was not fast enough and Canelo had to take advantage of this well Stepping on heavier division does really need adjustment because speed is one of the most common factor that would be mainly affect yet you had become heavier but well for something like Canelo then it wouldnt really be that much of an issue. but indeed as you said maybe the macabu is not fast enough but the shot is very crazy and even I remember when he managed to beat Kudryashov some time ago at that time the macabu shot was so terrible especially the hook he did. it's not impossible that if canelo is not careful he will be made like Kudryashov by ending up battered at the hands of Makabu Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Silberman on November 26, 2021, 06:56:24 PM Quote Ilunga Makabu has told Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez he is making a big mistake moving up to cruiserweight and insists he will ‘100 per cent’ knock the Mexican superstar out. Source: Ilunga Makabu vows he will knockout Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez as Mexican will give away TWO STONE in cruiserweight title fight (https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/985962/ilunga-makabu-ko-saul-canelo-alvarez-title-record-cruiserweight/)You know, I didn't expect Canelo to "give away" 20 lbs (no FAT CANELO lol) and I'm not sure he still has powerful punches since cruiserweight boxers maybe all punch as hard as him. But if you believe this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn17Hb73mX8) really happened, then, who knows!? That's why even if it's just 6months preparation for Canelo, he should train twice as possible because he's entering another division that aren't his mastery field. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Questat on November 26, 2021, 09:32:57 PM Quote Ilunga Makabu has told Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez he is making a big mistake moving up to cruiserweight and insists he will ‘100 per cent’ knock the Mexican superstar out. Source: Ilunga Makabu vows he will knockout Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez as Mexican will give away TWO STONE in cruiserweight title fight (https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/985962/ilunga-makabu-ko-saul-canelo-alvarez-title-record-cruiserweight/)You know, I didn't expect Canelo to "give away" 20 lbs (no FAT CANELO lol) and I'm not sure he still has powerful punches since cruiserweight boxers maybe all punch as hard as him. But if you believe this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn17Hb73mX8) really happened, then, who knows!? That's why even if it's just 6months preparation for Canelo, he should train twice as possible because he's entering another division that aren't his mastery field. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Jackl87 on November 26, 2021, 09:47:32 PM After becoming undisputed champion at super middleweight Canelo is now prepared for his next challenge. He will be moving up two weight classes to face WBC cruiserweight champion Ilunga Makabu. This opponent is not very well known but he has a high knockout percentage with 25 KOs in 28 victories and he has not had a loss in over 5 years. It will be an impressive feat if Canelo can become champion at cruiserweight after starting his career fighting in the jr. welterweight division. When i first read this news or heard about the rumor i thought at first that this next fight comes pretty quick because canelo just have fought a few weeks ago and you should never have too many fights in a short period of time. Now i have read that the fight is planned to happen around May or June 2022 and then it is more than enough time between canelos last fight and the fight against Makabu. Going up 2 weight classes is always dangerous though and i really hope that canelo is still fast enough to show a good performance and a spectacular fight. If he manages to win this one then he really has achieved something great. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Fredomago on November 27, 2021, 05:46:12 AM After becoming undisputed champion at super middleweight Canelo is now prepared for his next challenge. He will be moving up two weight classes to face WBC cruiserweight champion Ilunga Makabu. This opponent is not very well known but he has a high knockout percentage with 25 KOs in 28 victories and he has not had a loss in over 5 years. It will be an impressive feat if Canelo can become champion at cruiserweight after starting his career fighting in the jr. welterweight division. When i first read this news or heard about the rumor i thought at first that this next fight comes pretty quick because canelo just have fought a few weeks ago and you should never have too many fights in a short period of time. Now i have read that the fight is planned to happen around May or June 2022 and then it is more than enough time between canelos last fight and the fight against Makabu. Going up 2 weight classes is always dangerous though and i really hope that canelo is still fast enough to show a good performance and a spectacular fight. If he manages to win this one then he really has achieved something great. A good achievement and another start for his name to rally in this new division, Canelo got a good and established name from his last weight after beating Plant, now that he's moving up, good preparation will give him the chance of beating Makabu, though you are right 2 more additional weight is not something that you can easily adopt. But more than 6 months is fair enough to work with everything. He can start gaining weight now and have extra workout to make sure that he's ready to compete when the date arrives. Skills and talent wise, he has both just need to be experience this new weight division and fit himself to proceed to this new journey. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: agustina2 on November 27, 2021, 08:32:49 AM When i first read this news or heard about the rumor i thought at first that this next fight comes pretty quick because canelo just have fought a few weeks ago and you should never have too many fights in a short period of time. Now i have read that the fight is planned to happen around May or June 2022 and then it is more than enough time between canelos last fight and the fight against Makabu. Going up 2 weight classes is always dangerous though and i really hope that canelo is still fast enough to show a good performance and a spectacular fight. If he manages to win this one then he really has achieved something great. As usual for every boxer, it should be at least 4-6 months after their next fight. Since Canelo is moving up weight class, 6 months of training is efficient. Canelo wants to achieve another milestone in his career. Defeating Makabu is one step toward another undisputed goal on his chosen weight class. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on November 27, 2021, 08:41:26 AM When i first read this news or heard about the rumor i thought at first that this next fight comes pretty quick because canelo just have fought a few weeks ago and you should never have too many fights in a short period of time. Now i have read that the fight is planned to happen around May or June 2022 and then it is more than enough time between canelos last fight and the fight against Makabu. Going up 2 weight classes is always dangerous though and i really hope that canelo is still fast enough to show a good performance and a spectacular fight. If he manages to win this one then he really has achieved something great. As usual for every boxer, it should be at least 4-6 months after their next fight. Since Canelo is moving up weight class, 6 months of training is efficient. Canelo wants to achieve another milestone in his career. Defeating Makabu is one step toward another undisputed goal on his chosen weight class. And I think Canelo said that he can fight 2-3 every year, so 4-6 months between fights is ample for him as he is getting used to it. Although he will moving up in weight class, there will be no adjusted for him. He might be walking right now above 170 lbs and then goes on training and gain 10 lbs more because that's what his target in this fight, at least 180 lbs, to absorb the punches of a legitimate cruiserweight. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: chaser15 on November 27, 2021, 09:10:58 AM And I think Canelo said that he can fight 2-3 every year, so 4-6 months between fights is ample for him as he is getting used to it. Although he will moving up in weight class, there will be no adjusted for him. He might be walking right now above 170 lbs and then goes on training and gain 10 lbs more because that's what his target in this fight, at least 180 lbs, to absorb the punches of a legitimate cruiserweight. As we speak, Canelo might be over 170lbs now. He shouldn't have difficulty fighting in a much heavier division because his body is already used to it. I'm really amazed at these boxers. How can you maintain over 170lbs with a big muscular body? The usual weight of that is playing at around 200lbs. Their training and discipline are really to the highest level. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Alanaz on November 27, 2021, 07:16:48 PM he is a pretty good boxer and can adjust quickly especially when he is in the ring I feel canelo is a different person. That could possibly happen if the boxer is not careful, there's no exemption even Canelo. However, knowing Canelo, he is not a type of boxer who is careless, he is slow starter and he always make sure he will win in the end, so he will likely win here but I doubt he can win by KO. but indeed as you said maybe the macabu is not fast enough but the shot is very crazy and even I remember when he managed to beat Kudryashov some time ago at that time the macabu shot was so terrible especially the hook he did. it's not impossible that if canelo is not careful he will be made like Kudryashov by ending up battered at the hands of Makabu Canelo needs to keep an eye on the macabu maneuver especially for his hard hook. I think he will be able to do that because he is now so confident in his abilities and record. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: molsewid on November 28, 2021, 04:44:23 AM The transition to a heavier division is always difficult, after all he is considered to be a very heavy puncher in his current division but at the heavier divisions this may not be true, so supposing this is the case then he will need to adjust his style and increase the rate at which he throws punches, which will leave him more open for attacks and we will see if his chin can take the increased strength of his opponents, all in all this seems like a good challenge for Canelo and it is going to be very interesting to see if Canelo can overcome it. This will be a challenging fight for Canelo for sure even if he is considered as a heavy puncher in his current division moving to a heavier division is not that easy. Ilunga Makabu accept the offer smoothly and he is preparing for this fight with Canelo for he was also acknowledging that Canelo was one of the best fighter today. This would going to be an exciting fight to watch for, I am rooting for Canelo but I don't think so if a knock out win in favor of Canelo will going to happen, quite difficult to predict. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Jating on November 28, 2021, 10:20:11 AM The transition to a heavier division is always difficult, after all he is considered to be a very heavy puncher in his current division but at the heavier divisions this may not be true, so supposing this is the case then he will need to adjust his style and increase the rate at which he throws punches, which will leave him more open for attacks and we will see if his chin can take the increased strength of his opponents, all in all this seems like a good challenge for Canelo and it is going to be very interesting to see if Canelo can overcome it. This will be a challenging fight for Canelo for sure even if he is considered as a heavy puncher in his current division moving to a heavier division is not that easy. Ilunga Makabu accept the offer smoothly and he is preparing for this fight with Canelo for he was also acknowledging that Canelo was one of the best fighter today. This would going to be an exciting fight to watch for, I am rooting for Canelo but I don't think so if a knock out win in favor of Canelo will going to happen, quite difficult to predict. It will be an opportunity for Makabu to fight Canelo, I mean Alvarez is already a legend and if he retires for sure in years to come his name will come up as the fighter that Canelo faces in the CW and beat. :) Who knows, Canelo might still carry his power at this weight division because he will not need to diet and make the desired weight. All he has to do is eat a lot and maybe hit the gym for muscle and then train in the gym. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on November 28, 2021, 10:42:15 AM And I think Canelo said that he can fight 2-3 every year, so 4-6 months between fights is ample for him as he is getting used to it. Although he will moving up in weight class, there will be no adjusted for him. He might be walking right now above 170 lbs and then goes on training and gain 10 lbs more because that's what his target in this fight, at least 180 lbs, to absorb the punches of a legitimate cruiserweight. As we speak, Canelo might be over 170lbs now. He shouldn't have difficulty fighting in a much heavier division because his body is already used to it. I'm really amazed at these boxers. How can you maintain over 170lbs with a big muscular body? The usual weight of that is playing at around 200lbs. Their training and discipline are really to the highest level. It's probably how Canelo's body is built, so he has to thank his parents for his gene because he is stocky so he can carry a lot of weight and still be muscular at the same time. Of course there nothing to beat a good set of discipline and having good people around you to really help developed your skills thru hard training and that's how Canelo was able to maintain and always go 100% on his every fight including this big challenge ahead of him. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: 24Kt on November 28, 2021, 06:00:42 PM And I think Canelo said that he can fight 2-3 every year, so 4-6 months between fights is ample for him as he is getting used to it. Although he will moving up in weight class, there will be no adjusted for him. He might be walking right now above 170 lbs and then goes on training and gain 10 lbs more because that's what his target in this fight, at least 180 lbs, to absorb the punches of a legitimate cruiserweight. As we speak, Canelo might be over 170lbs now. He shouldn't have difficulty fighting in a much heavier division because his body is already used to it. I'm really amazed at these boxers. How can you maintain over 170lbs with a big muscular body? The usual weight of that is playing at around 200lbs. Their training and discipline are really to the highest level. It's probably how Canelo's body is built, so he has to thank his parents for his gene because he is stocky so he can carry a lot of weight and still be muscular at the same time. Of course there nothing to beat a good set of discipline and having good people around you to really help developed your skills thru hard training and that's how Canelo was able to maintain and always go 100% on his every fight including this big challenge ahead of him. And the good thing with Canelo is he is not a trash talker. Based from the photos, it seems Alvarez & Makabu are good friends, unlike the recent Lopez vs Kambosos fight, which ended up as an upset, and the thing was, Lopez was confident that he will win on this fight. But with this match, Canelo seems confident to move up so it means, he can do this fight. He has the discipline of a boxer, so let's watch this upcoming fight. Waiting for the odds from sportsbooks... Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Silberman on November 29, 2021, 06:09:46 PM The transition to a heavier division is always difficult, after all he is considered to be a very heavy puncher in his current division but at the heavier divisions this may not be true, so supposing this is the case then he will need to adjust his style and increase the rate at which he throws punches, which will leave him more open for attacks and we will see if his chin can take the increased strength of his opponents, all in all this seems like a good challenge for Canelo and it is going to be very interesting to see if Canelo can overcome it. This will be a challenging fight for Canelo for sure even if he is considered as a heavy puncher in his current division moving to a heavier division is not that easy. Ilunga Makabu accept the offer smoothly and he is preparing for this fight with Canelo for he was also acknowledging that Canelo was one of the best fighter today. This would going to be an exciting fight to watch for, I am rooting for Canelo but I don't think so if a knock out win in favor of Canelo will going to happen, quite difficult to predict. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: freedomgo on November 29, 2021, 09:16:31 PM And the good thing with Canelo is he is not a trash talker. Based from the photos, it seems Alvarez & Makabu are good friends, unlike the recent Lopez vs Kambosos fight, which ended up as an upset, and the thing was, Lopez was confident that he will win on this fight. But with this match, Canelo seems confident to move up so it means, he can do this fight. He has the discipline of a boxer, so let's watch this upcoming fight. Waiting for the odds from sportsbooks... Canelo always does the right discipline in the ring, if his opponent does not trash-talk him, then nothing would happen, besides, he doesn't need to throw some trash talk to sell his fight as everyone knows him, especially that he recently made history becoming an undisputed champion on his division, and now trying to go up in weight to face a new challenge. There's nothing to criticize a boxer who likes to keep on new challenges, and that is Canelo which is a good example for boxers who like to be successful in their career. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Dave1 on November 30, 2021, 01:28:27 AM The transition to a heavier division is always difficult, after all he is considered to be a very heavy puncher in his current division but at the heavier divisions this may not be true, so supposing this is the case then he will need to adjust his style and increase the rate at which he throws punches, which will leave him more open for attacks and we will see if his chin can take the increased strength of his opponents, all in all this seems like a good challenge for Canelo and it is going to be very interesting to see if Canelo can overcome it. This will be a challenging fight for Canelo for sure even if he is considered as a heavy puncher in his current division moving to a heavier division is not that easy. Ilunga Makabu accept the offer smoothly and he is preparing for this fight with Canelo for he was also acknowledging that Canelo was one of the best fighter today. This would going to be an exciting fight to watch for, I am rooting for Canelo but I don't think so if a knock out win in favor of Canelo will going to happen, quite difficult to predict. As far a I know, this is verbally been approved by WBC already during their convention so most likely this fight will push thru without any problems or hitch and the mandatory will have to wait for the results. I guess this is the perks of being the best fighter right now, Canelo can just requested the governing body that he wants to fight and challenge their Cruiserweight champion. And Makabu can't do anything about it because he will get a lot of money fighting Canalo. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Yaunfitda on November 30, 2021, 08:28:31 AM ^ Right, this is already a good and both parties have agreed already, so would just have to work out the split and the purse bid. But for sure Canelo will get the lion share, nevertheless Makabu should also get a good share like 20-30% and that will be huge for him as CW is not known to have money fights in the past and it is sandwich between LHW and HW in which there is more money.
Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: TopTort777 on November 30, 2021, 11:13:10 AM That will be a good test for Canelo btw. Cruiserweight starts from 91kg, while his current, supper middleweight is 76kg. Gaining 15% of your own body mass I think is a lot. And if a person is not used to being so heavy, that might cause a discomfort in movement as minimum. I dont know Canelos usual weight between fights, and his weight on the ring (this is always different from what you show on the scales), but gaining 10kg changes a person completely. We dont know Makabu true weight in the ring also. One day he is 91, next day he is 95.
Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: yazher on November 30, 2021, 12:08:29 PM As we speak, Canelo might be over 170lbs now. He shouldn't have difficulty fighting in a much heavier division because his body is already used to it. I'm really amazed at these boxers. How can you maintain over 170lbs with a big muscular body? The usual weight of that is playing at around 200lbs. Their training and discipline are really to the highest level. It's the fruit of their hard work every day, as ordinary people, we cannot imagine how they managed to get that amazing build. It's not just the workout but their healthy diet holds a strong contribution to it. Imagine how fast and strong he is right now in their weight division combining his big body in just 170lbs. Their training is really good and it will cause a lot of stress for his opponent on how to defeat him in his current strength right now. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Finestream on November 30, 2021, 05:09:29 PM When i first read this news or heard about the rumor i thought at first that this next fight comes pretty quick because canelo just have fought a few weeks ago and you should never have too many fights in a short period of time. Now i have read that the fight is planned to happen around May or June 2022 and then it is more than enough time between canelos last fight and the fight against Makabu. Going up 2 weight classes is always dangerous though and i really hope that canelo is still fast enough to show a good performance and a spectacular fight. If he manages to win this one then he really has achieved something great. As usual for every boxer, it should be at least 4-6 months after their next fight. Since Canelo is moving up weight class, 6 months of training is efficient. Canelo wants to achieve another milestone in his career. Defeating Makabu is one step toward another undisputed goal on his chosen weight class. I think for now there's no assurance who will win this match because both fighters are tough, so I guess this match is about exchanging big blows without backing up or getting knocked out. We'll see it soon, next year! As for Canelo, there's no reason stated why he jumped in CW. But I'm sure there's some serious reasons behind it. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: South Park on November 30, 2021, 08:06:33 PM As we speak, Canelo might be over 170lbs now. He shouldn't have difficulty fighting in a much heavier division because his body is already used to it. I'm really amazed at these boxers. How can you maintain over 170lbs with a big muscular body? The usual weight of that is playing at around 200lbs. Their training and discipline are really to the highest level. It's the fruit of their hard work every day, as ordinary people, we cannot imagine how they managed to get that amazing build. It's not just the workout but their healthy diet holds a strong contribution to it. Imagine how fast and strong he is right now in their weight division combining his big body in just 170lbs. Their training is really good and it will cause a lot of stress for his opponent on how to defeat him in his current strength right now. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Pamadar on November 30, 2021, 08:24:43 PM As we speak, Canelo might be over 170lbs now. He shouldn't have difficulty fighting in a much heavier division because his body is already used to it. I'm really amazed at these boxers. How can you maintain over 170lbs with a big muscular body? The usual weight of that is playing at around 200lbs. Their training and discipline are really to the highest level. It's the fruit of their hard work every day, as ordinary people, we cannot imagine how they managed to get that amazing build. It's not just the workout but their healthy diet holds a strong contribution to it. Imagine how fast and strong he is right now in their weight division combining his big body in just 170lbs. Their training is really good and it will cause a lot of stress for his opponent on how to defeat him in his current strength right now. Correct! it's not just how to punch but to develop good stamina, it's a balance that boxers need to perfect. More body movements together with your good skills, it isn't just how to convert punches but more on the defensive ends. If you want to excel from this sport, you need not to stop from increasing your training routine. Both Alvarez and Makabu know that they will do extra to make sure that they are well prepared when the fight happens. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Kemarit on November 30, 2021, 11:33:44 PM As we speak, Canelo might be over 170lbs now. He shouldn't have difficulty fighting in a much heavier division because his body is already used to it. I'm really amazed at these boxers. How can you maintain over 170lbs with a big muscular body? The usual weight of that is playing at around 200lbs. Their training and discipline are really to the highest level. It's the fruit of their hard work every day, as ordinary people, we cannot imagine how they managed to get that amazing build. It's not just the workout but their healthy diet holds a strong contribution to it. Imagine how fast and strong he is right now in their weight division combining his big body in just 170lbs. Their training is really good and it will cause a lot of stress for his opponent on how to defeat him in his current strength right now. Well I think boxing training has developed in the last 20 years, trainers are now including lots of discipline in a boxing training as well. So obviously, it's not just the power, speed, (fast twist muscles, specially when Manny Pacquiao comes along as he is so fast and explosive), and then timing and reflexes (eye coordination), and then stamina, (short burst running). So for sure, Canelo has all of this training behind close door, what we are just seeing in public is that he is throwing punch in a mitt or something or shadow boxing. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Distinctin on December 01, 2021, 09:33:45 PM As we speak, Canelo might be over 170lbs now. He shouldn't have difficulty fighting in a much heavier division because his body is already used to it. I'm really amazed at these boxers. How can you maintain over 170lbs with a big muscular body? The usual weight of that is playing at around 200lbs. Their training and discipline are really to the highest level. It's the fruit of their hard work every day, as ordinary people, we cannot imagine how they managed to get that amazing build. It's not just the workout but their healthy diet holds a strong contribution to it. Imagine how fast and strong he is right now in their weight division combining his big body in just 170lbs. Their training is really good and it will cause a lot of stress for his opponent on how to defeat him in his current strength right now. Well I think boxing training has developed in the last 20 years, trainers are now including lots of discipline in a boxing training as well. So obviously, it's not just the power, speed, (fast twist muscles, specially when Manny Pacquiao comes along as he is so fast and explosive), and then timing and reflexes (eye coordination), and then stamina, (short burst running). So for sure, Canelo has all of this training behind close door, what we are just seeing in public is that he is throwing punch in a mitt or something or shadow boxing. It's more advance now due to the improvement of science, they can use a lot of factor to make a boxer better, and in the case of Canelo, we can always say that he improved a lot especially his power and stamina, in fact, in most of his fights, his win pretty looks convincing and he was never listed as an underdog except the fight against Mayweather. https://www.sbnation.com/2013/9/13/4726772/mayweather-canelo-current-odds Quote Mayweather is currently sitting as a -260 to -280 favorite at most sportsbooks with Canelo as a +210 to +245 underdog. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Baofeng on December 01, 2021, 11:43:44 PM There has been a change of plans in this fight,
Canelo won't go directly to Makabu, but he has to wait for the winner of Makabu vs Mchunu. This is a rematch fight and Mchunu doesn't want to step aside and this is going to be scheduled next year January 29. Quote World Boxing Council President Mauricio Sulaiman indicates that Mexican superstar Saul "Canelo" Alvarez will face the winner of the upcoming rematch between WBC cruiserweight champion Ilunga Makabu and mandatory challenger Thabiso Mchunu. It was believed that Canelo would fight Makabu for the cruiserweight belt on Cinco De Mayo weekend in May. But, Mchunu would not step aside from his mandatory shot - so he will fight Makabu on January 29th at the Packard Music Hall in Warren, Ohio. Promoter Don King, who will stage the Makabu-Mchunu event, expects Canelo to be ringside for the fight. https://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-prez-makabu-mchunu-winner-go-against-canelo--162422 Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Kemarit on December 01, 2021, 11:48:34 PM ^^ I think it's better that way for Canelo, because if will take time for him to go chase Makabu as they wanted it to happen on Cinco de Mayo. So Makabu can still defend his title in a rematch win some money and then go for Canelo in the States in May, still doable for him if I'm not mistaken. Again, unless Mchunu has other plans to derail the fight and won against Makabu.
Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: TimeTeller on December 01, 2021, 11:59:55 PM ^^ I think it's better that way for Canelo, because if will take time for him to go chase Makabu as they wanted it to happen on Cinco de Mayo. So Makabu can still defend his title in a rematch win some money and then go for Canelo in the States in May, still doable for him if I'm not mistaken. Again, unless Mchunu has other plans to derail the fight and won against Makabu. This will be good for Canelo as he has time to prepare for the fight as he is moving up the weight division. Also, with the fight between Makabu & Mchunu, Canelo will further assess the boxing style of either two fighters. That will assist him on what strategy he needs to play inside the ring. As he moves up the ladder, he needs to look out for all angles so as to be prepared on this fight. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: TravelMug on December 02, 2021, 12:27:33 AM ^^ I think it's better that way for Canelo, because if will take time for him to go chase Makabu as they wanted it to happen on Cinco de Mayo. So Makabu can still defend his title in a rematch win some money and then go for Canelo in the States in May, still doable for him if I'm not mistaken. Again, unless Mchunu has other plans to derail the fight and won against Makabu. This will be good for Canelo as he has time to prepare for the fight as he is moving up the weight division. Also, with the fight between Makabu & Mchunu, Canelo will further assess the boxing style of either two fighters. That will assist him on what strategy he needs to play inside the ring. As he moves up the ladder, he needs to look out for all angles so as to be prepared on this fight. Yep, as the articles says, Canelo for sure will be in the ringside live to watch how to 190 - 200 lbs fight each other and either one of them will the potential opponent of him in May. So Canelo will have all the time to prepare had a good plan, make the weight or at least go to 180 lbs because that is what he wanted to be in the fight. So at all angles, Canelo will have the advantage of this two fighting each other in front of him. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Dave1 on December 02, 2021, 02:48:13 AM ^^ I think it's better that way for Canelo, because if will take time for him to go chase Makabu as they wanted it to happen on Cinco de Mayo. So Makabu can still defend his title in a rematch win some money and then go for Canelo in the States in May, still doable for him if I'm not mistaken. Again, unless Mchunu has other plans to derail the fight and won against Makabu. This will be good for Canelo as he has time to prepare for the fight as he is moving up the weight division. Also, with the fight between Makabu & Mchunu, Canelo will further assess the boxing style of either two fighters. That will assist him on what strategy he needs to play inside the ring. As he moves up the ladder, he needs to look out for all angles so as to be prepared on this fight. Yep, as the articles says, Canelo for sure will be in the ringside live to watch how to 190 - 200 lbs fight each other and either one of them will the potential opponent of him in May. So Canelo will have all the time to prepare had a good plan, make the weight or at least go to 180 lbs because that is what he wanted to be in the fight. So at all angles, Canelo will have the advantage of this two fighting each other in front of him. WBC is giving all the advantage to Canelo, Lol. Makabu vs Mchunu first then they fight each and soften each other for Canelo. And then they will just have 4 months to prepare for Canelo. And then Canelo can watch how both of them fight and win he see who is the winner, he already has a good strategy in his mind in advance. So I'm seeing Canelo going to win whoever he is going to fight next. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: fortunecrypto on December 02, 2021, 09:10:15 AM WBC is giving all the advantage to Canelo, Lol. Makabu vs Mchunu first then they fight each and soften each other for Canelo. And then they will just have 4 months to prepare for Canelo. And then Canelo can watch how both of them fight and win he see who is the winner, he already has a good strategy in his mind in advance. So I'm seeing Canelo going to win whoever he is going to fight next. This is just a speculation, we have an old saying style that makes a fight, there will be no changes in the style and power of both fighters when they faced Canelo and Canelo will have no advantages whoever wins between the two, all these three boxers have already established their power and style, it cannot be defined by one fight alone it goes on who implemented their skills and power the most when they meet, and between the two Canelo has the more polished skills. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: molsewid on December 02, 2021, 10:52:34 AM WBC is giving all the advantage to Canelo, Lol. Makabu vs Mchunu first then they fight each and soften each other for Canelo. And then they will just have 4 months to prepare for Canelo. And then Canelo can watch how both of them fight and win he see who is the winner, he already has a good strategy in his mind in advance. So I'm seeing Canelo going to win whoever he is going to fight next. Well then it's a great time indeed for Canelo to prepare for his fight against Makabu if this will be push through in near future. I know Canelo is such a great boxer and he's undoubtedly has undefeated record but yeah this kind of opportunity of seeing his soon to be opponent fighting in the ring will be his basis on what kind of strategy does he need to prepare or does he has anything to improve to himself. Though I have a gut that Canelo will be a winner in case, I don't also set aside the potential and skill of Makabu this man is also a great fighter. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: bisdak40 on December 02, 2021, 11:56:37 AM WBC is giving all the advantage to Canelo, Lol. Makabu vs Mchunu first then they fight each and soften each other for Canelo. And then they will just have 4 months to prepare for Canelo. And then Canelo can watch how both of them fight and win he see who is the winner, he already has a good strategy in his mind in advance. So I'm seeing Canelo going to win whoever he is going to fight next. That's expected lol. WBC is Mexico-based and its president, Mauricio Sulaiman is Mexican as well so what can we expect hehe. Yeah, Canelo always has the luxury of choosing whom to fight and everybody else just wanting to win that Canelo sweepstakes, that would be their very paycheck once Canelo chooses them. But I like the chance of Makabu here once he disposes of Mchunu because of his size advantage. He may not have that lateral movement but at least he has the puncher's chance. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: freedomgo on December 02, 2021, 01:26:37 PM WBC is giving all the advantage to Canelo, Lol. Makabu vs Mchunu first then they fight each and soften each other for Canelo. And then they will just have 4 months to prepare for Canelo. And then Canelo can watch how both of them fight and win he see who is the winner, he already has a good strategy in his mind in advance. So I'm seeing Canelo going to win whoever he is going to fight next. That's expected lol. WBC is Mexico-based and its president, Mauricio Sulaiman is Mexican as well so what can we expect hehe. Yeah, Canelo always has the luxury of choosing whom to fight and everybody else just wanting to win that Canelo sweepstakes, that would be their very paycheck once Canelo chooses them. But I like the chance of Makabu here once he disposes of Mchunu because of his size advantage. He may not have that lateral movement but at least he has the puncher's chance. That's is his advantage, is punching power because he is the bigger guy, but Canelo has been in many battles and he has a tough chin and strong body, so he will surely survive and win this fight. I'm so sure but I'm still open of a possibility of upset as Canelo is so hype now that fans think he is almost unbeatable. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: aioc on December 02, 2021, 02:10:48 PM That's is his advantage, is punching power because he is the bigger guy, but Canelo has been in many battles and he has a tough chin and strong body, so he will surely survive and win this fight. I'm so sure but I'm still open of a possibility of upset as Canelo is so hype now that fans think he is almost unbeatable. Their team may be biting what they can chew, but this is boxing great boxers never know their limitation until they tested themself, that is why we have Manny Pacquiao an eight-division world champion, and Canelo has a lot to offer and he wants to extend himself, forget the cherry-picking thing he wants to fight champions to add more titles and prestige to his name, he knows he is not young forever and wants to accomplish a lot. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Viscore on December 02, 2021, 02:25:36 PM That's is his advantage, is punching power because he is the bigger guy, but Canelo has been in many battles and he has a tough chin and strong body, so he will surely survive and win this fight. I'm so sure but I'm still open of a possibility of upset as Canelo is so hype now that fans think he is almost unbeatable. Their team may be biting what they can chew, but this is boxing great boxers never know their limitation until they tested themself, that is why we have Manny Pacquiao an eight-division world champion, and Canelo has a lot to offer and he wants to extend himself, forget the cherry-picking thing he wants to fight champions to add more titles and prestige to his name, he knows he is not young forever and wants to accomplish a lot. Canelo needs to move in weight if he wants to be at least near Manny Pacquiao's achievement as the only 8th division world champion. This is another step for him and if he will win and be a champion in a higher division then that would be so exciting, however, with his height, I doubt he will dominate. for those who are not aware of the division in boxing, here are the list. https://www.britannica.com/sports/boxing/Weight-divisions Quote minimumweight, 105 pounds (48 kg) light flyweight, 108 pounds (49 kg) flyweight, 112 pounds (51 kg) super flyweight, 115 pounds (52 kg) bantamweight, 118 pounds (53.5 kg) super bantamweight, 122 pounds (55 kg) featherweight, 126 pounds (57 kg) super featherweight, 130 pounds (59 kg) lightweight, 135 pounds (61 kg) super lightweight, 140 pounds (63.5 kg) welterweight, 147 pounds (67 kg) super welterweight, 154 pounds (70 kg) middleweight, 160 pounds (72.5 kg) super middleweight, 168 pounds (76 kg) light heavyweight, 175 pounds (79 kg) cruiserweight, 200 pounds (91 kg) heavyweight, unlimited Canelo is fight on cruiserweight now. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Yaunfitda on December 02, 2021, 03:04:03 PM WBC is giving all the advantage to Canelo, Lol. Makabu vs Mchunu first then they fight each and soften each other for Canelo. And then they will just have 4 months to prepare for Canelo. And then Canelo can watch how both of them fight and win he see who is the winner, he already has a good strategy in his mind in advance. So I'm seeing Canelo going to win whoever he is going to fight next. Well then it's a great time indeed for Canelo to prepare for his fight against Makabu if this will be push through in near future. I know Canelo is such a great boxer and he's undoubtedly has undefeated record but yeah this kind of opportunity of seeing his soon to be opponent fighting in the ring will be his basis on what kind of strategy does he need to prepare or does he has anything to improve to himself. Though I have a gut that Canelo will be a winner in case, I don't also set aside the potential and skill of Makabu this man is also a great fighter. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: smyslov on December 02, 2021, 03:12:15 PM Canelo needs to move in weight if he wants to be at least near Manny Pacquiao's achievement as the only 8th division world champion. This is another step for him and if he will win and be a champion in a higher division then that would be so exciting, however, with his height, I doubt he will dominate. He doesn't have to he doesn't have a chance to equal the eight-division titles but he can do better by fighting the best and beating them and becoming a great attraction in boxing and of course be a classic champion that will be respected for many generations, Ali is a three-time champion but there are champions that surpass that records, but he is well respected and so is Julio Cezar Chavez, there are a lot of ways to become great champions. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: dimonstration on December 02, 2021, 03:29:27 PM Canelo needs to move in weight if he wants to be at least near Manny Pacquiao's achievement as the only 8th division world champion. This is another step for him and if he will win and be a champion in a higher division then that would be so exciting, however, with his height, I doubt he will dominate. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Smartprofit on December 02, 2021, 05:37:06 PM Makabu is compared to Canelo Alvarez, as the biblical Goliath is compared to the Jewish shepherd David.
Canelo Alvarez is only 173 centimeters tall. Makabu's height is 183 centimeters. Alvarez's arms span is only 179 centimeters. Makabu's arms span is 188 centimeters. Makabu is a titan, a monster ... He will drive Canelo Alvarez into the ground, like a builder drives a pile into the ground with a sledgehammer. At the same time, Makabu is very fast. Has excellent characteristics. He is tireless in battle. In my opinion, Canelo will lose. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Silberman on December 02, 2021, 07:47:22 PM The transition to a heavier division is always difficult, after all he is considered to be a very heavy puncher in his current division but at the heavier divisions this may not be true, so supposing this is the case then he will need to adjust his style and increase the rate at which he throws punches, which will leave him more open for attacks and we will see if his chin can take the increased strength of his opponents, all in all this seems like a good challenge for Canelo and it is going to be very interesting to see if Canelo can overcome it. This will be a challenging fight for Canelo for sure even if he is considered as a heavy puncher in his current division moving to a heavier division is not that easy. Ilunga Makabu accept the offer smoothly and he is preparing for this fight with Canelo for he was also acknowledging that Canelo was one of the best fighter today. This would going to be an exciting fight to watch for, I am rooting for Canelo but I don't think so if a knock out win in favor of Canelo will going to happen, quite difficult to predict. As far a I know, this is verbally been approved by WBC already during their convention so most likely this fight will push thru without any problems or hitch and the mandatory will have to wait for the results. I guess this is the perks of being the best fighter right now, Canelo can just requested the governing body that he wants to fight and challenge their Cruiserweight champion. And Makabu can't do anything about it because he will get a lot of money fighting Canalo. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Baofeng on December 02, 2021, 10:32:57 PM WBC is giving all the advantage to Canelo, Lol. Makabu vs Mchunu first then they fight each and soften each other for Canelo. And then they will just have 4 months to prepare for Canelo. And then Canelo can watch how both of them fight and win he see who is the winner, he already has a good strategy in his mind in advance. So I'm seeing Canelo going to win whoever he is going to fight next. That's expected lol. WBC is Mexico-based and its president, Mauricio Sulaiman is Mexican as well so what can we expect hehe. Yeah, Canelo always has the luxury of choosing whom to fight and everybody else just wanting to win that Canelo sweepstakes, that would be their very paycheck once Canelo chooses them. But I like the chance of Makabu here once he disposes of Mchunu because of his size advantage. He may not have that lateral movement but at least he has the puncher's chance. True, Sulaiman loves Canelo and being Mexican and holding a WBC belt, Canelo has his perks and can choose whoever he fights under this organisation. And since Canelo is the cash cow now, every boxer is after him, like Makabu and Mchunu who will fight first, sort of eliminator but the funny thing is that they belt is on the line. Anyway, I hope Makabu wins so he will get his biggest paycheck and give Canelo a good fight at cruiserweight. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: AmoreJaz on December 02, 2021, 10:53:47 PM WBC is giving all the advantage to Canelo, Lol. Makabu vs Mchunu first then they fight each and soften each other for Canelo. And then they will just have 4 months to prepare for Canelo. And then Canelo can watch how both of them fight and win he see who is the winner, he already has a good strategy in his mind in advance. So I'm seeing Canelo going to win whoever he is going to fight next. That's expected lol. WBC is Mexico-based and its president, Mauricio Sulaiman is Mexican as well so what can we expect hehe. Yeah, Canelo always has the luxury of choosing whom to fight and everybody else just wanting to win that Canelo sweepstakes, that would be their very paycheck once Canelo chooses them. But I like the chance of Makabu here once he disposes of Mchunu because of his size advantage. He may not have that lateral movement but at least he has the puncher's chance. True, Sulaiman loves Canelo and being Mexican and holding a WBC belt, Canelo has his perks and can choose whoever he fights under this organisation. And since Canelo is the cash cow now, every boxer is after him, like Makabu and Mchunu who will fight first, sort of eliminator but the funny thing is that they belt is on the line. Anyway, I hope Makabu wins so he will get his biggest paycheck and give Canelo a good fight at cruiserweight. this is a very good opportunity for Canelo to prepare more for this upcoming fight. he should use the waiting time for his rigid preparation because one should not take for granted about the capability of either makabu or mchunu. whoever wins on their match. they have certain advantage as they are fighting on their comfort zone. so if in case canelo will win on this weight division, he will be more bankable as a boxer here. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: chaser15 on December 02, 2021, 11:51:02 PM they have certain advantage as they are fighting on their comfort zone. so if in case canelo will win on this weight division, he will be more bankable as a boxer here. Canelo is almost fighting on that weight when he is entering the ring. They are just maintaining the weight requirements before the weigh-in. After that, they will eat lots again. Stepping on another weight class is surely not a problem for Canelo. The one who waiting above will have the problem. He should do double to triple preparation as the beast is coming his way. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: robelneo on December 02, 2021, 11:52:09 PM this is a very good opportunity for Canelo to prepare more for this upcoming fight. he should use the waiting time for his rigid preparation because one should not take for granted about the capability of either makabu or mchunu. whoever wins on their match. they have certain advantage as they are fighting on their comfort zone. so if in case canelo will win on this weight division, he will be more bankable as a boxer here. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Kemarit on December 03, 2021, 12:44:52 AM this is a very good opportunity for Canelo to prepare more for this upcoming fight. he should use the waiting time for his rigid preparation because one should not take for granted about the capability of either makabu or mchunu. whoever wins on their match. they have certain advantage as they are fighting on their comfort zone. so if in case canelo will win on this weight division, he will be more bankable as a boxer here. Yeah, and Canelo knows this for sure that's why he always prepare 110% in every fight and you can see it in every youtube videos about his training regimen and preparation and that's what keeps him on top of his game as he reaches his prime. So he has time in his side to estimate either Makabu or Mchunu and whoever wins that fight, Canelo will be ready. The weight will not be a problem for him, he just need to eat more to gain more pounds for this weight class. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Dave1 on December 03, 2021, 02:04:32 AM WBC is giving all the advantage to Canelo, Lol. Makabu vs Mchunu first then they fight each and soften each other for Canelo. And then they will just have 4 months to prepare for Canelo. And then Canelo can watch how both of them fight and win he see who is the winner, he already has a good strategy in his mind in advance. So I'm seeing Canelo going to win whoever he is going to fight next. That's expected lol. WBC is Mexico-based and its president, Mauricio Sulaiman is Mexican as well so what can we expect hehe. Yeah, Canelo always has the luxury of choosing whom to fight and everybody else just wanting to win that Canelo sweepstakes, that would be their very paycheck once Canelo chooses them. But I like the chance of Makabu here once he disposes of Mchunu because of his size advantage. He may not have that lateral movement but at least he has the puncher's chance. I agree with you, it is to be expected, after all Sulaiman and Canelo are both Mexicans and they are proud of what Canelo has accomplished so they give them all they want like a baby here, So win win for Canelo and this fight for the belt in cruiserweight will be big in Cinco de Mayo, another sell out crowd for Canelo as he will be going for another Mexican record in their holiday. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Kelvinid on December 03, 2021, 06:43:15 AM WBC is giving all the advantage to Canelo, Lol. Makabu vs Mchunu first then they fight each and soften each other for Canelo. And then they will just have 4 months to prepare for Canelo. And then Canelo can watch how both of them fight and win he see who is the winner, he already has a good strategy in his mind in advance. So I'm seeing Canelo going to win whoever he is going to fight next. That's expected lol. WBC is Mexico-based and its president, Mauricio Sulaiman is Mexican as well so what can we expect hehe. Yeah, Canelo always has the luxury of choosing whom to fight and everybody else just wanting to win that Canelo sweepstakes, that would be their very paycheck once Canelo chooses them. But I like the chance of Makabu here once he disposes of Mchunu because of his size advantage. He may not have that lateral movement but at least he has the puncher's chance. I agree with you, it is to be expected, after all Sulaiman and Canelo are both Mexicans and they are proud of what Canelo has accomplished so they give them all they want like a baby here, So win win for Canelo and this fight for the belt in cruiserweight will be big in Cinco de Mayo, another sell out crowd for Canelo as he will be going for another Mexican record in their holiday. He better wins this fight so the fans will not be disappointed, he is moving up in weight like he is just walking in the park, so I'm confident that he will win but I also see the possibility of a big upset, of course, no boxer that is unbeatable, they sometimes make a costly mistake that could result to an L, worst if they get KO. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Jating on December 03, 2021, 01:27:43 PM WBC is giving all the advantage to Canelo, Lol. Makabu vs Mchunu first then they fight each and soften each other for Canelo. And then they will just have 4 months to prepare for Canelo. And then Canelo can watch how both of them fight and win he see who is the winner, he already has a good strategy in his mind in advance. So I'm seeing Canelo going to win whoever he is going to fight next. That's expected lol. WBC is Mexico-based and its president, Mauricio Sulaiman is Mexican as well so what can we expect hehe. Yeah, Canelo always has the luxury of choosing whom to fight and everybody else just wanting to win that Canelo sweepstakes, that would be their very paycheck once Canelo chooses them. But I like the chance of Makabu here once he disposes of Mchunu because of his size advantage. He may not have that lateral movement but at least he has the puncher's chance. I agree with you, it is to be expected, after all Sulaiman and Canelo are both Mexicans and they are proud of what Canelo has accomplished so they give them all they want like a baby here, So win win for Canelo and this fight for the belt in cruiserweight will be big in Cinco de Mayo, another sell out crowd for Canelo as he will be going for another Mexican record in their holiday. He better wins this fight so the fans will not be disappointed, he is moving up in weight like he is just walking in the park, so I'm confident that he will win but I also see the possibility of a big upset, of course, no boxer that is unbeatable, they sometimes make a costly mistake that could result to an L, worst if they get KO. Right, but I would say that Canelo is more intelligent than that, to get an upset although I would agree that the chance is there. Specially he is the one moving up, so he is not sure of the power of the cruiserweight division and for sure it it very different from middleweight as this guy is almost on the heavyweight side. So let's see if Canelo wins this fight and what will be his next move, maybe go down again to light heavyweight or stay in the cruiserweight and face the other champions and maybe unify it again. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Ziskinberg on December 03, 2021, 01:40:54 PM These are the champions that Canelo will have to face if he stays at Cruiserweight class.
https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Category:World_Champions_By_Weight_Class#Cruiserweight_.28200_lbs.2C_90.7_kg.2C_14_st_4_lbs.29 https://i.imgur.com/47ztw6H.png These are big and powerful boxers, if he will reign here then probably that's another history for him. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Silberman on December 05, 2021, 07:11:37 PM These are the champions that Canelo will have to face if he stays at Cruiserweight class. It is going to be very interesting what happens in the cruiserweight category now that Canelo is in it, most of those champions are going to want to have the chance to fight him so they can earn a lot of money but they could be giving away their belts in the process, if Canelo dominates this division as well all what will be left for him will be try to fight in the heavyweight division, even if not long ago Canelo insisted that was not part of his plans.https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Category:World_Champions_By_Weight_Class#Cruiserweight_.28200_lbs.2C_90.7_kg.2C_14_st_4_lbs.29 https://i.imgur.com/47ztw6H.png These are big and powerful boxers, if he will reign here then probably that's another history for him. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Viscore on December 05, 2021, 09:35:19 PM These are the champions that Canelo will have to face if he stays at Cruiserweight class. It is going to be very interesting what happens in the cruiserweight category now that Canelo is in it, most of those champions are going to want to have the chance to fight him so they can earn a lot of money but they could be giving away their belts in the process, if Canelo dominates this division as well all what will be left for him will be try to fight in the heavyweight division, even if not long ago Canelo insisted that was not part of his plans.https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Category:World_Champions_By_Weight_Class#Cruiserweight_.28200_lbs.2C_90.7_kg.2C_14_st_4_lbs.29 https://i.imgur.com/47ztw6H.png These are big and powerful boxers, if he will reign here then probably that's another history for him. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Kemarit on December 06, 2021, 12:35:28 AM These are the champions that Canelo will have to face if he stays at Cruiserweight class. It is going to be very interesting what happens in the cruiserweight category now that Canelo is in it, most of those champions are going to want to have the chance to fight him so they can earn a lot of money but they could be giving away their belts in the process, if Canelo dominates this division as well all what will be left for him will be try to fight in the heavyweight division, even if not long ago Canelo insisted that was not part of his plans.https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Category:World_Champions_By_Weight_Class#Cruiserweight_.28200_lbs.2C_90.7_kg.2C_14_st_4_lbs.29 https://i.imgur.com/47ztw6H.png These are big and powerful boxers, if he will reign here then probably that's another history for him. Yes, that is the Canelo sweepstakes, just like Pacquiao before, even if he still past his prime, fighters want to face him because of the huge payment they are going to check. To be honest, it was only Breidis who is more familiar to me in the Crusierweight division, I also have to check the other champions when Canelo decided to move up in this division and yes, those are big and powerful dude that Canelo has to face to chase greatness. If he decided to stay here, it will be a different story. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Jawhead999 on December 06, 2021, 02:25:12 AM I would not say that Canelo will dominate, too early for that, he is only trying to fight his first attempt in this heavier division, so let's see first how he will perform as heavy fighters are not easy to knockdown, and usually, the one that is going up will struggle that's why only a few boxers succeeded in doing that. Yep, even Makabu isn't really known boxer but consider he has a belt and heavy fighter, we shouldn't underestimating him. It's true Alvarez is the best boxer, but it's only on middle weight. Heavy boxer has a though chin and hard to knocked, but they're lack of speed which Alvarez very good in this. Alvarez should play more defensive and do counter punch rather than aggressive. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Rufsilf on December 06, 2021, 06:52:02 AM WBC is giving all the advantage to Canelo, Lol. Makabu vs Mchunu first then they fight each and soften each other for Canelo. And then they will just have 4 months to prepare for Canelo. And then Canelo can watch how both of them fight and win he see who is the winner, he already has a good strategy in his mind in advance. So I'm seeing Canelo going to win whoever he is going to fight next. That's expected lol. WBC is Mexico-based and its president, Mauricio Sulaiman is Mexican as well so what can we expect hehe. Yeah, Canelo always has the luxury of choosing whom to fight and everybody else just wanting to win that Canelo sweepstakes, that would be their very paycheck once Canelo chooses them. But I like the chance of Makabu here once he disposes of Mchunu because of his size advantage. He may not have that lateral movement but at least he has the puncher's chance. True, Sulaiman loves Canelo and being Mexican and holding a WBC belt, Canelo has his perks and can choose whoever he fights under this organisation. And since Canelo is the cash cow now, every boxer is after him, like Makabu and Mchunu who will fight first, sort of eliminator but the funny thing is that they belt is on the line. Anyway, I hope Makabu wins so he will get his biggest paycheck and give Canelo a good fight at cruiserweight. this is a very good opportunity for Canelo to prepare more for this upcoming fight. he should use the waiting time for his rigid preparation because one should not take for granted about the capability of either makabu or mchunu. whoever wins on their match. they have certain advantage as they are fighting on their comfort zone. so if in case canelo will win on this weight division, he will be more bankable as a boxer here. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Yamifoud on December 06, 2021, 06:57:19 AM It will be a very rough and hard training for Canelo because aside from boxing training about Makabu's offensive and defensive strategy, he will then go to weight lifting to gain some weights because he's not suit on the CW now. We really can't know for sure who has the upper hand on this fight because Makabu is om a 9th time win streak from 2017 up until now and Canelo has been known also for his mindest tactics and power punches. We'll see about this next year, soon. Definitely, the training would be different as it's not his division, he is trying to face a bigger challenge to test his capability. Canelo will become a hall of Famer already, and he is not afraid of losing that's why I admire what he did. I had some little doubt on him when he did not give GGG a rematch, but this action going up is tougher than a rematch with GGG. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Fredomago on December 06, 2021, 07:06:34 AM I would not say that Canelo will dominate, too early for that, he is only trying to fight his first attempt in this heavier division, so let's see first how he will perform as heavy fighters are not easy to knockdown, and usually, the one that is going up will struggle that's why only a few boxers succeeded in doing that. Yep, even Makabu isn't really known boxer but consider he has a belt and heavy fighter, we shouldn't underestimating him. It's true Alvarez is the best boxer, but it's only on middle weight. Heavy boxer has a though chin and hard to knocked, but they're lack of speed which Alvarez very good in this. Alvarez should play more defensive and do counter punch rather than aggressive. He has the belt for nothing, the trainings that he has is also need to consider, it's a different weight division and the fighter here is more solid and ready to go blow by blow, speed wise Canelo may have it but due to adding weight might possible that adjustment is not that fast for him. Going to wait for the fight and see if there's a good advantage for him or the decision to move up is not yet ripe for him to grab. ::) Good luck to everyone who will take side to Canelo to win this fight. ;) Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Kasabus on December 06, 2021, 07:10:23 AM It will be a very rough and hard training for Canelo because aside from boxing training about Makabu's offensive and defensive strategy, he will then go to weight lifting to gain some weights because he's not suit on the CW now. We really can't know for sure who has the upper hand on this fight because Makabu is om a 9th time win streak from 2017 up until now and Canelo has been known also for his mindest tactics and power punches. We'll see about this next year, soon. Definitely, the training would be different as it's not his division, he is trying to face a bigger challenge to test his capability. Canelo will become a hall of Famer already, and he is not afraid of losing that's why I admire what he did. I had some little doubt on him when he did not give GGG a rematch, but this action going up is tougher than a rematch with GGG. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: freedomgo on December 06, 2021, 11:41:46 AM It will be a very rough and hard training for Canelo because aside from boxing training about Makabu's offensive and defensive strategy, he will then go to weight lifting to gain some weights because he's not suit on the CW now. We really can't know for sure who has the upper hand on this fight because Makabu is om a 9th time win streak from 2017 up until now and Canelo has been known also for his mindest tactics and power punches. We'll see about this next year, soon. Definitely, the training would be different as it's not his division, he is trying to face a bigger challenge to test his capability. Canelo will become a hall of Famer already, and he is not afraid of losing that's why I admire what he did. I had some little doubt on him when he did not give GGG a rematch, but this action going up is tougher than a rematch with GGG. It did not result in a draw, the last fight was won by Canelo Alvarez via Majority decision, so there's nothing to prove anymore, it's only up to him if he will give a rematch or not. You can watch the highlights of the fight (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaMOJ577ABA). Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: aioc on December 06, 2021, 03:30:59 PM These are the champions that Canelo will have to face if he stays at Cruiserweight class. https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Category:World_Champions_By_Weight_Class#Cruiserweight_.28200_lbs.2C_90.7_kg.2C_14_st_4_lbs.29 https://i.imgur.com/47ztw6H.png These are big and powerful boxers, if he will reign here then probably that's another history for him. That's really tough coming from welterweight but in the light heavyweight division he makes things easy he moves like a middleweight but hits like a heavyweight in that division, we have to give their team a benefit of the doubt that they can do better in the cruiserweight division, they have a game plan that we don't know we can only speculate. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: goinmerry on December 06, 2021, 06:49:42 PM That's really tough coming from welterweight but in the light heavyweight division he makes things easy he moves like a middleweight but hits like a heavyweight in that division, we have to give their team a benefit of the doubt that they can do better in the cruiserweight division, they have a game plan that we don't know we can only speculate. Slowly but surely, Canelo can adjust to the phase of competition in the Light HeavyWeight. Being an undisputed champion in the Welterweight is already considered as a boxer that can take challenges on a much upper weight class next to Welterweight. Defeating Makabu is the first step on that. Canelo will surely give his very best in that fight. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: YinShuiSiYuan on December 06, 2021, 06:56:06 PM That's really tough coming from welterweight but in the light heavyweight division he makes things easy he moves like a middleweight but hits like a heavyweight in that division, we have to give their team a benefit of the doubt that they can do better in the cruiserweight division, they have a game plan that we don't know we can only speculate. Slowly but surely, Canelo can adjust to the phase of competition in the Light HeavyWeight. Being an undisputed champion in the Welterweight is already considered as a boxer that can take challenges on a much upper weight class next to Welterweight. Defeating Makabu is the first step on that. Canelo will surely give his very best in that fight. Canelo has a chance to prove himself to be a very flexible boxer. If the coaches think that he can handle the Light HeavyWeight division, why not do it .. I'm sure that in addition to more opportunities, more money will also go for it. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: carlisle1 on December 06, 2021, 06:58:49 PM These are the champions that Canelo will have to face if he stays at Cruiserweight class. https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Category:World_Champions_By_Weight_Class#Cruiserweight_.28200_lbs.2C_90.7_kg.2C_14_st_4_lbs.29 https://i.imgur.com/47ztw6H.png These are big and powerful boxers, if he will reign here then probably that's another history for him. That's really tough coming from welterweight but in the light heavyweight division he makes things easy he moves like a middleweight but hits like a heavyweight in that division, we have to give their team a benefit of the doubt that they can do better in the cruiserweight division, they have a game plan that we don't know we can only speculate. Before Alvarez camp decide to move up they scout every possibilities that they've got. The team have that game plan for Alvarez to stand still against those bigger and tougher opponents, having strategy or sets of strategy to increase the chance of winning is within the training team. Likewise, they have something that we don't know adjustment that we will witness during the fight. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Ziskinberg on December 06, 2021, 08:47:39 PM These are the champions that Canelo will have to face if he stays at Cruiserweight class. https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Category:World_Champions_By_Weight_Class#Cruiserweight_.28200_lbs.2C_90.7_kg.2C_14_st_4_lbs.29 https://i.imgur.com/47ztw6H.png These are big and powerful boxers, if he will reign here then probably that's another history for him. That's really tough coming from welterweight but in the light heavyweight division he makes things easy he moves like a middleweight but hits like a heavyweight in that division, we have to give their team a benefit of the doubt that they can do better in the cruiserweight division, they have a game plan that we don't know we can only speculate. Before Alvarez camp decide to move up they scout every possibilities that they've got. The team have that game plan for Alvarez to stand still against those bigger and tougher opponents, having strategy or sets of strategy to increase the chance of winning is within the training team. Likewise, they have something that we don't know adjustment that we will witness during the fight. We already have an idea of what Canelo would do in the fight but we don't know what Ilunga Makabu will use as his strategy to beat Canelo, he is a huge guy with power, so Canelo has to be very careful as if he gets hit, he might get hurt with a power that he never felt before in his current division. The bookies are still convinced though that Canelo would win, so we cannot change the betting odds but that does not guarantee the outcome is the same of majority's expectation. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: AmoreJaz on December 06, 2021, 09:20:23 PM These are the champions that Canelo will have to face if he stays at Cruiserweight class. https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Category:World_Champions_By_Weight_Class#Cruiserweight_.28200_lbs.2C_90.7_kg.2C_14_st_4_lbs.29 - These are big and powerful boxers, if he will reign here then probably that's another history for him. That's really tough coming from welterweight but in the light heavyweight division he makes things easy he moves like a middleweight but hits like a heavyweight in that division, we have to give their team a benefit of the doubt that they can do better in the cruiserweight division, they have a game plan that we don't know we can only speculate. Before Alvarez camp decide to move up they scout every possibilities that they've got. The team have that game plan for Alvarez to stand still against those bigger and tougher opponents, having strategy or sets of strategy to increase the chance of winning is within the training team. Likewise, they have something that we don't know adjustment that we will witness during the fight. We already have an idea of what Canelo would do in the fight but we don't know what Ilunga Makabu will use as his strategy to beat Canelo, he is a huge guy with power, so Canelo has to be very careful as if he gets hit, he might get hurt with a power that he never felt before in his current division. The bookies are still convinced though that Canelo would win, so we cannot change the betting odds but that does not guarantee the outcome is the same of majority's expectation. that is if makabu will win over mchunu. so makabu should better win this fight in order for him to face canelo. the move to higher weight division is really a challenge for canelo. but the good thing here is that we've seen canelo move up to divisions from 153-175 lbs. so he knows the drill here. it is not the case that he will move from 153 to 200lbs. would be hard if that is the case here. though the risk is still there. as he needs to wait who will win the makabu v mchunu match, he has ample time to think of possible options how to win on this weight div. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Baofeng on December 06, 2021, 10:04:00 PM These are the champions that Canelo will have to face if he stays at Cruiserweight class. https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Category:World_Champions_By_Weight_Class#Cruiserweight_.28200_lbs.2C_90.7_kg.2C_14_st_4_lbs.29 - These are big and powerful boxers, if he will reign here then probably that's another history for him. That's really tough coming from welterweight but in the light heavyweight division he makes things easy he moves like a middleweight but hits like a heavyweight in that division, we have to give their team a benefit of the doubt that they can do better in the cruiserweight division, they have a game plan that we don't know we can only speculate. Before Alvarez camp decide to move up they scout every possibilities that they've got. The team have that game plan for Alvarez to stand still against those bigger and tougher opponents, having strategy or sets of strategy to increase the chance of winning is within the training team. Likewise, they have something that we don't know adjustment that we will witness during the fight. We already have an idea of what Canelo would do in the fight but we don't know what Ilunga Makabu will use as his strategy to beat Canelo, he is a huge guy with power, so Canelo has to be very careful as if he gets hit, he might get hurt with a power that he never felt before in his current division. The bookies are still convinced though that Canelo would win, so we cannot change the betting odds but that does not guarantee the outcome is the same of majority's expectation. that is if makabu will win over mchunu. so makabu should better win this fight in order for him to face canelo. the move to higher weight division is really a challenge for canelo. but the good thing here is that we've seen canelo move up to divisions from 153-175 lbs. so he knows the drill here. it is not the case that he will move from 153 to 200lbs. would be hard if that is the case here. though the risk is still there. as he needs to wait who will win the makabu v mchunu match, he has ample time to think of possible options how to win on this weight div. As you have said, he already move to 175 lbs without a problem. And as he stated, he will be going in this fight around the 180 lbs-190 lbs, so there is no weight cutting or such for him, so his body will remain maybe just add few muscles in 6 months. For the Makabu vs Mchunu fight, I reckon Makabu will be the favourite in this fight although this is a rematch, he already shows in the first first that he is the better fighter. And he will definitely try and go for a win here because a Canelo fight will be his biggest paycheck. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: chaser15 on December 06, 2021, 11:43:58 PM These are the champions that Canelo will have to face if he stays at Cruiserweight class. https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Category:World_Champions_By_Weight_Class#Cruiserweight_.28200_lbs.2C_90.7_kg.2C_14_st_4_lbs.29 https://i.imgur.com/47ztw6H.png These are big and powerful boxers, if he will reign here then probably that's another history for him. Beforehand, Canelo Alvarez knows already and is aware that he will soon take a fight at these boxers. He won't step up on another ladder if he's not sure he can't handle these boxers at the top of his chosen next division. It's hard for a boxer to decide whether they will stay or not in their respective decision that's why they are already prepared for what they will face as a new challenge. As Canelo now finished everything in his former division, it's reasonable to step up now, and defeating Ilunga Makabu will test his new journey. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: SmokerFace on December 07, 2021, 12:01:34 AM As expected with Canelo after winning on his last match, he can easily have the next match so they can continue with the hype. With the records of Makabu, I can say that he is a great boxer and should be taken seriously by Canelo this could be a big match for him and if he him, for sure next match will settle right away. Any news about the target date of this Match? Yes, it's quite possible. But there's always another end to the story if the past winner is not in form or didn't had good rest or medical issues. The first match of Canelo was easy to predict and Canelo was in form and with more exp compared to their opponent. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: lienfaye on December 07, 2021, 03:01:49 AM It's hard for a boxer to decide whether they will stay or not in their respective decision that's why they are already prepared for what they will face as a new challenge. Well, if they want to grow as a boxer they should be open for more challenging fight. The more big fights they will get means a bigger opportunities for their career and of course the earnings.As Canelo now finished everything in his former division, it's reasonable to step up now, and defeating Ilunga Makabu will test his new journey. Its not certain yet if Canelo will face Makabu. Because the latter needs first to fight his mandatory (Mchunu) on January next year. Then the winner on that fight will go against Canelo on May.Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: TravelMug on December 07, 2021, 04:36:37 AM As expected with Canelo after winning on his last match, he can easily have the next match so they can continue with the hype. With the records of Makabu, I can say that he is a great boxer and should be taken seriously by Canelo this could be a big match for him and if he him, for sure next match will settle right away. Any news about the target date of this Match? Yes, it's quite possible. But there's always another end to the story if the past winner is not in form or didn't had good rest or medical issues. The first match of Canelo was easy to predict and Canelo was in form and with more exp compared to their opponent. I wouldn't call Canelo hype though, I mean he has proven himself time and time again and could be the fighter of the decade by all means. And then him going up from 154 lbs to 190 lbs that's amazing, just like another legendary boxer who just retired, Manny Pacquiao. So with this another accomplished, either who he face, he will the favourite although this will be a new territory for him. Nevertheless, we know how great he is, as he can adjust and fight all adversities, for sure he can win this fight and include his name again as one of the greats in recent generation. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Fredomago on December 07, 2021, 02:29:23 PM As expected with Canelo after winning on his last match, he can easily have the next match so they can continue with the hype. With the records of Makabu, I can say that he is a great boxer and should be taken seriously by Canelo this could be a big match for him and if he him, for sure next match will settle right away. Any news about the target date of this Match? Yes, it's quite possible. But there's always another end to the story if the past winner is not in form or didn't had good rest or medical issues. The first match of Canelo was easy to predict and Canelo was in form and with more exp compared to their opponent. I wouldn't call Canelo hype though, I mean he has proven himself time and time again and could be the fighter of the decade by all means. And then him going up from 154 lbs to 190 lbs that's amazing, just like another legendary boxer who just retired, Manny Pacquiao. So with this another accomplished, either who he face, he will the favourite although this will be a new territory for him. Nevertheless, we know how great he is, as he can adjust and fight all adversities, for sure he can win this fight and include his name again as one of the greats in recent generation. Adjustment will be witness once the fight started, it's a new territory for him indeed he's going to compete with someone who has all the advantages from this ring, though most of his fans believes that he can stand up and make another accomplishments but for sure this time it won't be an easy journey for him. After this fight, if in case, he takes this one from Makabu. There are more challenges that he will be facing. He's journey toward this new weight is very interesting. We never know if he can really dominate or it's just a testing ground if he failed he will simply go back. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Fatunad on December 07, 2021, 08:40:30 PM As expected with Canelo after winning on his last match, he can easily have the next match so they can continue with the hype. With the records of Makabu, I can say that he is a great boxer and should be taken seriously by Canelo this could be a big match for him and if he him, for sure next match will settle right away. Any news about the target date of this Match? Yes, it's quite possible. But there's always another end to the story if the past winner is not in form or didn't had good rest or medical issues. The first match of Canelo was easy to predict and Canelo was in form and with more exp compared to their opponent. I wouldn't call Canelo hype though, I mean he has proven himself time and time again and could be the fighter of the decade by all means. And then him going up from 154 lbs to 190 lbs that's amazing, just like another legendary boxer who just retired, Manny Pacquiao. So with this another accomplished, either who he face, he will the favourite although this will be a new territory for him. Nevertheless, we know how great he is, as he can adjust and fight all adversities, for sure he can win this fight and include his name again as one of the greats in recent generation. Adjustment will be witness once the fight started, it's a new territory for him indeed he's going to compete with someone who has all the advantages from this ring, though most of his fans believes that he can stand up and make another accomplishments but for sure this time it won't be an easy journey for him. After this fight, if in case, he takes this one from Makabu. There are more challenges that he will be facing. He's journey toward this new weight is very interesting. We never know if he can really dominate or it's just a testing ground if he failed he will simply go back. It is actually varying on someones or on boxers preference or mindset in regarding into his career and this will really be different on each boxers mind. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: South Park on December 08, 2021, 08:29:39 PM There has been a change of plans in this fight, It was to be expected, after all we know that right now Canelo is the cash cow of the world of boxing, so whoever he fights is going to get a lot of money for the privilege, so no one wants to miss the opportunity to fight him now that he is entering a new division, after all this is probably going to be one of the best opportunities anyone is going to have to beat him as he is not going to be used to fight with that much weight yet and his speed and power could be compromised.Canelo won't go directly to Makabu, but he has to wait for the winner of Makabu vs Mchunu. This is a rematch fight and Mchunu doesn't want to step aside and this is going to be scheduled next year January 29. https://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-prez-makabu-mchunu-winner-go-against-canelo--162422 Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Silberman on December 08, 2021, 10:26:53 PM It is going to be very interesting what happens in the cruiserweight category now that Canelo is in it, most of those champions are going to want to have the chance to fight him so they can earn a lot of money but they could be giving away their belts in the process, if Canelo dominates this division as well all what will be left for him will be try to fight in the heavyweight division, even if not long ago Canelo insisted that was not part of his plans. I would not say that Canelo will dominate, too early for that, he is only trying to fight his first attempt in this heavier division, so let's see first how he will perform as heavy fighters are not easy to knockdown, and usually, the one that is going up will struggle that's why only a few boxers succeeded in doing that. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: agustina2 on December 08, 2021, 11:03:00 PM There has been a change of plans in this fight, It was to be expected, after all we know that right now Canelo is the cash cow of the world of boxing, so whoever he fights is going to get a lot of money for the privilege, so no one wants to miss the opportunity to fight him now that he is entering a new division, after all this is probably going to be one of the best opportunities anyone is going to have to beat him as he is not going to be used to fight with that much weight yet and his speed and power could be compromised.Canelo won't go directly to Makabu, but he has to wait for the winner of Makabu vs Mchunu. This is a rematch fight and Mchunu doesn't want to step aside and this is going to be scheduled next year January 29. https://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-prez-makabu-mchunu-winner-go-against-canelo--162422 I think you are missing the point of that rematch between Makabu vs Mchunu. There is no connection with what you are saying that Canelo is a cash cow. Let that fight happen as there's a reason for it to be held first. Canelo can always wait and that should not be a problem for him. OP should now update the thread or else, locked for the meantime. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Kemarit on December 09, 2021, 03:29:59 AM There has been a change of plans in this fight, It was to be expected, after all we know that right now Canelo is the cash cow of the world of boxing, so whoever he fights is going to get a lot of money for the privilege, so no one wants to miss the opportunity to fight him now that he is entering a new division, after all this is probably going to be one of the best opportunities anyone is going to have to beat him as he is not going to be used to fight with that much weight yet and his speed and power could be compromised.Canelo won't go directly to Makabu, but he has to wait for the winner of Makabu vs Mchunu. This is a rematch fight and Mchunu doesn't want to step aside and this is going to be scheduled next year January 29. https://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-prez-makabu-mchunu-winner-go-against-canelo--162422 I think you are missing the point of that rematch between Makabu vs Mchunu. There is no connection with what you are saying that Canelo is a cash cow. Let that fight happen as there's a reason for it to be held first. Canelo can always wait and that should not be a problem for him. OP should now update the thread or else, locked for the meantime. Maybe what he is saying that who will ever win in their rematch will face Canelo, boxing's cash cow. So there is still connection for Makabu vs Mchunu. Either one of them are going to train hard and fight as hard as they can because they know that they are going to be rewarded next with a great pay against Canelo. But I would say that Canelo will still have the advantage on either of Makabu or Mchunu and chances are high that he will get the cruiserweight title. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on December 09, 2021, 10:49:37 AM It is going to be very interesting what happens in the cruiserweight category now that Canelo is in it, most of those champions are going to want to have the chance to fight him so they can earn a lot of money but they could be giving away their belts in the process, if Canelo dominates this division as well all what will be left for him will be try to fight in the heavyweight division, even if not long ago Canelo insisted that was not part of his plans. I would not say that Canelo will dominate, too early for that, he is only trying to fight his first attempt in this heavier division, so let's see first how he will perform as heavy fighters are not easy to knockdown, and usually, the one that is going up will struggle that's why only a few boxers succeeded in doing that. I think Canelo moving to HW is far stretch for now, I mean just imagine Fury vs Canelo? or even Wilder vs Canelo for all the money? The weight and the height difference will be too much. Canelo is just testing the waters in the CW division and if he see fit here, then maybe he will stay or go down to LHW but there are two champions in the weight division that has big power as well and maybe that's the reason why he skip LHW and go directly to CW because it's "easy" fight for him and possible to get all the belts after just a couple of fights. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: mirakal on December 10, 2021, 09:54:15 PM It is going to be very interesting what happens in the cruiserweight category now that Canelo is in it, most of those champions are going to want to have the chance to fight him so they can earn a lot of money but they could be giving away their belts in the process, if Canelo dominates this division as well all what will be left for him will be try to fight in the heavyweight division, even if not long ago Canelo insisted that was not part of his plans. I would not say that Canelo will dominate, too early for that, he is only trying to fight his first attempt in this heavier division, so let's see first how he will perform as heavy fighters are not easy to knockdown, and usually, the one that is going up will struggle that's why only a few boxers succeeded in doing that. I think Canelo moving to HW is far stretch for now, I mean just imagine Fury vs Canelo? or even Wilder vs Canelo for all the money? The weight and the height difference will be too much. Canelo is just testing the waters in the CW division and if he see fit here, then maybe he will stay or go down to LHW but there are two champions in the weight division that has big power as well and maybe that's the reason why he skip LHW and go directly to CW because it's "easy" fight for him and possible to get all the belts after just a couple of fights. For sure, but I hope it's a calculated test as boxers in CW are heavy hitters compared to the division where he won as an undisputed champion. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: agustina2 on December 10, 2021, 10:35:20 PM That's too much for Canelo, the height difference matters also and with Fury, no chance Canelo or GGG would win as even Wilder who is a heavy hitter cannot completely KO Fury. Height matters but in boxing, as long as you fighting within the same weight, the shorter one has the advantage. Pacquiao and Mayweather is the best proof of that. Canelo is known for his expertise in swing defense. It was so fast that he can make a counter while his opponent is still waiting for their punching stance to come back. But talking about Canelo vs Fury or Wilder is not a topic for now. It won't happen by any chances until there's a rumor. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Yaunfitda on December 11, 2021, 06:10:35 AM That's too much for Canelo, the height difference matters also and with Fury, no chance Canelo or GGG would win as even Wilder who is a heavy hitter cannot completely KO Fury. Height matters but in boxing, as long as you fighting within the same weight, the shorter one has the advantage. Pacquiao and Mayweather is the best proof of that. Canelo is known for his expertise in swing defense. It was so fast that he can make a counter while his opponent is still waiting for their punching stance to come back. But talking about Canelo vs Fury or Wilder is not a topic for now. It won't happen by any chances until there's a rumor. If Canelo is successful in Cruiserweight then he might stay there for a while, but yeah, him moving to Heavies? not gonna happen. Maybe if he can move like Usyk, very fast and technical, maybe he can upset some heavyweight that are slow, but with the likes of Fury who is very fast even at a height of 6'6++ it's hard to see Canelo dealing with that disadvantage. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: chaser15 on December 11, 2021, 07:05:23 AM If Canelo is successful in Cruiserweight then he might stay there for a while, but yeah, him moving to Heavies? not gonna happen. We aren't sure about that. Once a boxer is undisputed in every weight class, he is qualified for the next level. Their body is now switching to adopt a much heavy challenge as the training becomes more intense too. Canelo can move up a bit higher than Light Heavyweight if that's the goal but not a priority. As of now, Canelo wants to destroy every fighter on the way regardless of their status. If where he will end up, we don't know. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Pamadar on December 11, 2021, 07:26:22 PM If Canelo is successful in Cruiserweight then he might stay there for a while, but yeah, him moving to Heavies? not gonna happen. We aren't sure about that. Once a boxer is undisputed in every weight class, he is qualified for the next level. Their body is now switching to adopt a much heavy challenge as the training becomes more intense too. Canelo can move up a bit higher than Light Heavyweight if that's the goal but not a priority. As of now, Canelo wants to destroy every fighter on the way regardless of their status. If where he will end up, we don't know. It's just another start for him. We can speculate, but the conclusion depends on his performances from this weight division. new sets of trainings and workouts to prepare him for this upcoming fight. he can think to what direction to take after this. For now, let's wait to see these two fighters inside the ring and enjoy the fight that they will bring to all the fans and viewers. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Russlenat on December 11, 2021, 09:30:16 PM If Canelo is successful in Cruiserweight then he might stay there for a while, but yeah, him moving to Heavies? not gonna happen. We aren't sure about that. Once a boxer is undisputed in every weight class, he is qualified for the next level. Their body is now switching to adopt a much heavy challenge as the training becomes more intense too. Canelo can move up a bit higher than Light Heavyweight if that's the goal but not a priority. As of now, Canelo wants to destroy every fighter on the way regardless of their status. If where he will end up, we don't know. It's just another start for him. We can speculate, but the conclusion depends on his performances from this weight division. new sets of trainings and workouts to prepare him for this upcoming fight. he can think to what direction to take after this. For now, let's wait to see these two fighters inside the ring and enjoy the fight that they will bring to all the fans and viewers. No doubt about the viewers as Canelo's fans will always support him in his new venture in the CW. The excitement is also there as we don't know yet if Canelo would still dominate like what he did in his present division, and we are guessing big time here since his opponent is a natural heavy fighter. I wish he'll win, but if not, then he can still go back and continue to dominate in a division where he is more comfortable. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on December 11, 2021, 09:38:27 PM If Canelo is successful in Cruiserweight then he might stay there for a while, but yeah, him moving to Heavies? not gonna happen. We aren't sure about that. Once a boxer is undisputed in every weight class, he is qualified for the next level. Their body is now switching to adopt a much heavy challenge as the training becomes more intense too. Canelo can move up a bit higher than Light Heavyweight if that's the goal but not a priority. As of now, Canelo wants to destroy every fighter on the way regardless of their status. If where he will end up, we don't know. He said he will go to 180 lbs in this fight so that is about Light Heavyweight limit. And his body has adopted to his weight already so there's no problem about it. It's just a question on how Canelo can take a punch for a legit Cruiserweight, we know he has a good chin, but I do believed that everyone has a limit so we will see in this fight. If his chin has no problems with much bigger guys then good for him and maybe he will be in this division for good. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Jating on December 12, 2021, 09:51:08 AM If Canelo is successful in Cruiserweight then he might stay there for a while, but yeah, him moving to Heavies? not gonna happen. We aren't sure about that. Once a boxer is undisputed in every weight class, he is qualified for the next level. Their body is now switching to adopt a much heavy challenge as the training becomes more intense too. Canelo can move up a bit higher than Light Heavyweight if that's the goal but not a priority. As of now, Canelo wants to destroy every fighter on the way regardless of their status. If where he will end up, we don't know. He said he will go to 180 lbs in this fight so that is about Light Heavyweight limit. And his body has adopted to his weight already so there's no problem about it. It's just a question on how Canelo can take a punch for a legit Cruiserweight, we know he has a good chin, but I do believed that everyone has a limit so we will see in this fight. If his chin has no problems with much bigger guys then good for him and maybe he will be in this division for good. And maybe that's what Canelo fighting weight when he moves to LHW against Kovalev or maybe that's what he carries when he is not fighting. So no more adjustments for him, but yes you are right about his world class chin, it will be very well tested. But Canelo knows this so he will play defense and tuck in his chin and this CW tends to be slower because they are bigger and weight more than 200 lbs fight night. So Canelo is still has the advantage because he will still be faster I reckon even if he moves up in weight. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Rufsilf on December 12, 2021, 01:01:05 PM If Canelo is successful in Cruiserweight then he might stay there for a while, but yeah, him moving to Heavies? not gonna happen. We aren't sure about that. Once a boxer is undisputed in every weight class, he is qualified for the next level. Their body is now switching to adopt a much heavy challenge as the training becomes more intense too. Canelo can move up a bit higher than Light Heavyweight if that's the goal but not a priority. As of now, Canelo wants to destroy every fighter on the way regardless of their status. If where he will end up, we don't know. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Baofeng on December 12, 2021, 03:26:15 PM If Canelo is successful in Cruiserweight then he might stay there for a while, but yeah, him moving to Heavies? not gonna happen. We aren't sure about that. Once a boxer is undisputed in every weight class, he is qualified for the next level. Their body is now switching to adopt a much heavy challenge as the training becomes more intense too. Canelo can move up a bit higher than Light Heavyweight if that's the goal but not a priority. As of now, Canelo wants to destroy every fighter on the way regardless of their status. If where he will end up, we don't know. But it will be dangerous for him bouncing in weight though, so I guess he would either have to stick to this new division or go to LHW with Beterviev or Bivol waiting for him it Cruiserweight will be too much for him. He give GGG a rematch though, but we wanted a 3rd fight but Canelo doesn't want it and decided to move to 168 lbs. And he can't move to Heavyweight either, I think that's out of his options for now. So either 175 lbs or cruiserweight for him. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Pamadar on December 12, 2021, 04:45:08 PM No doubt about the viewers as Canelo's fans will always support him in his new venture in the CW. The excitement is also there as we don't know yet if Canelo would still dominate like what he did in his present division, and we are guessing big time here since his opponent is a natural heavy fighter. I wish he'll win, but if not, then he can still go back and continue to dominate in a division where he is more comfortable. to dominate and win the fight. Maybe it's not the usual ground for Canelo, but he's intelligence and skills will keep the chance. Much bigger opponent means more challenging fight, and for sure an interesting one for Alvarez. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: carlisle1 on December 12, 2021, 07:51:17 PM If Canelo is successful in Cruiserweight then he might stay there for a while, but yeah, him moving to Heavies? not gonna happen. We aren't sure about that. Once a boxer is undisputed in every weight class, he is qualified for the next level. Their body is now switching to adopt a much heavy challenge as the training becomes more intense too. Canelo can move up a bit higher than Light Heavyweight if that's the goal but not a priority. As of now, Canelo wants to destroy every fighter on the way regardless of their status. If where he will end up, we don't know. That's very ambitious, but knowing his characteristic, it's very possible that he is aiming to do that. He wanted to move forward. Once he defeats Makabu, it will be sure that more challengers for him, more fights to expect and more exposure for his name. I really wanted to see him fight after fight. If in case, he really excels from this division, we never know if he will stay or move again to another division to see if how far he can proceed. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Oasisman on December 12, 2021, 08:17:03 PM If Canelo is successful in Cruiserweight then he might stay there for a while, but yeah, him moving to Heavies? not gonna happen. ~snip~ That's very ambitious, but knowing his characteristic, it's very possible that he is aiming to do that. He wanted to move forward. Once he defeats Makabu, it will be sure that more challengers for him, more fights to expect and more exposure for his name. I really wanted to see him fight after fight. If in case, he really excels from this division, we never know if he will stay or move again to another division to see if how far he can proceed. Being the number 1 pound for pound in the ranking, that's not "very" ambitious to call it. I mean moving forward is every fighter's ambition, but once you become the best in different weight division, that's not called very ambitious, that's called maximizing your potential to measure how strong your body can take. Staying in the same weight division knowing that you dominate it will just make a fighter lazy, impassionate, and will probably won't challenge him anymore. If I am a boxer and will defeat a higher ranking or weight division than me, I won't stop moving forward. I think that's what every fighter wants to happen in their career. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Silberman on December 12, 2021, 09:31:56 PM I think Canelo moving to HW is far stretch for now, I mean just imagine Fury vs Canelo? or even Wilder vs Canelo for all the money? The weight and the height difference will be too much. Of course, Canelo is not ready for the HW division right now and he has stated he has no plans to move to it, however everything is going to depend on how much success he has on the CW division, taking into account how popular he is it should be obvious this is a very calculated move for him so I doubt he will have too much problem adjusting to the division, but if he can deal with the increase on punching power from his opponents and dominate the division, then the only option left will be the HW, still it will take a few fights to know if he can make the transition to the CW successfully.Canelo is just testing the waters in the CW division and if he see fit here, then maybe he will stay or go down to LHW but there are two champions in the weight division that has big power as well and maybe that's the reason why he skip LHW and go directly to CW because it's "easy" fight for him and possible to get all the belts after just a couple of fights. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Viscore on December 12, 2021, 09:42:56 PM I think Canelo moving to HW is far stretch for now, I mean just imagine Fury vs Canelo? or even Wilder vs Canelo for all the money? The weight and the height difference will be too much. Of course, Canelo is not ready for the HW division right now and he has stated he has no plans to move to it, however everything is going to depend on how much success he has on the CW division, taking into account how popular he is it should be obvious this is a very calculated move for him so I doubt he will have too much problem adjusting to the division, but if he can deal with the increase on punching power from his opponents and dominate the division, then the only option left will be the HW, still it will take a few fights to know if he can make the transition to the CW successfully.Canelo is just testing the waters in the CW division and if he see fit here, then maybe he will stay or go down to LHW but there are two champions in the weight division that has big power as well and maybe that's the reason why he skip LHW and go directly to CW because it's "easy" fight for him and possible to get all the belts after just a couple of fights. I can't imagine Canelo would go higher than CW, he will be facing giants in that division, unless he has the power like Mike Tyson who could make a taller guy fall with his powerful punches. I checked Canelo's height, he is 1.75 m while Tyson is 1.78 m, so not much of a difference, he can still be in HW but he has to finish his business first in CW by dominating here. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: carlisle1 on December 13, 2021, 07:31:01 AM I think Canelo moving to HW is far stretch for now, I mean just imagine Fury vs Canelo? or even Wilder vs Canelo for all the money? The weight and the height difference will be too much. Of course, Canelo is not ready for the HW division right now and he has stated he has no plans to move to it, however everything is going to depend on how much success he has on the CW division, taking into account how popular he is it should be obvious this is a very calculated move for him so I doubt he will have too much problem adjusting to the division, but if he can deal with the increase on punching power from his opponents and dominate the division, then the only option left will be the HW, still it will take a few fights to know if he can make the transition to the CW successfully.Canelo is just testing the waters in the CW division and if he see fit here, then maybe he will stay or go down to LHW but there are two champions in the weight division that has big power as well and maybe that's the reason why he skip LHW and go directly to CW because it's "easy" fight for him and possible to get all the belts after just a couple of fights. I can't imagine Canelo would go higher than CW, he will be facing giants in that division, unless he has the power like Mike Tyson who could make a taller guy fall with his powerful punches. I checked Canelo's height, he is 1.75 m while Tyson is 1.78 m, so not much of a difference, he can still be in HW but he has to finish his business first in CW by dominating here. Good comparison and we really can't conclude if what inside Canelo's mind. If he has this kind of desire, he needed to be accomplish one step at the time, not an easy task but if he is keen fulfilling this kind of dream the success will put his name to this sport's history. Future is not ours and we should enjoy this upcoming fight first then assume on his next target. Whatever plan he's camp has in mind will be reveal after this fight, the assessment mostly happened after the event ;) Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Distinctin on December 13, 2021, 11:16:48 AM If Canelo is successful in Cruiserweight then he might stay there for a while, but yeah, him moving to Heavies? not gonna happen. We aren't sure about that. Once a boxer is undisputed in every weight class, he is qualified for the next level. Their body is now switching to adopt a much heavy challenge as the training becomes more intense too. Canelo can move up a bit higher than Light Heavyweight if that's the goal but not a priority. As of now, Canelo wants to destroy every fighter on the way regardless of their status. If where he will end up, we don't know. But it will be dangerous for him bouncing in weight though, so I guess he would either have to stick to this new division or go to LHW with Beterviev or Bivol waiting for him it Cruiserweight will be too much for him. He give GGG a rematch though, but we wanted a 3rd fight but Canelo doesn't want it and decided to move to 168 lbs. And he can't move to Heavyweight either, I think that's out of his options for now. So either 175 lbs or cruiserweight for him. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Yamifoud on December 13, 2021, 12:05:18 PM There are a lot more stronger boxers than him that is natural to their weights even in crusierweight like Makabu. So that leaves him only 2 options, it's either CW or LHW, no more higher or lower than that division. Per https://box.live/world-rankings/cruiserweight/. Makabu is actually number 2 in ranking, so he is really a good fighter in his division, but look at the betting odds, he is an underdog against Canelo, so I think there are not many quality boxers in cruiserweight division. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Viscore on December 13, 2021, 01:54:16 PM I think Canelo moving to HW is far stretch for now, I mean just imagine Fury vs Canelo? or even Wilder vs Canelo for all the money? The weight and the height difference will be too much. Of course, Canelo is not ready for the HW division right now and he has stated he has no plans to move to it, however everything is going to depend on how much success he has on the CW division, taking into account how popular he is it should be obvious this is a very calculated move for him so I doubt he will have too much problem adjusting to the division, but if he can deal with the increase on punching power from his opponents and dominate the division, then the only option left will be the HW, still it will take a few fights to know if he can make the transition to the CW successfully.Canelo is just testing the waters in the CW division and if he see fit here, then maybe he will stay or go down to LHW but there are two champions in the weight division that has big power as well and maybe that's the reason why he skip LHW and go directly to CW because it's "easy" fight for him and possible to get all the belts after just a couple of fights. I can't imagine Canelo would go higher than CW, he will be facing giants in that division, unless he has the power like Mike Tyson who could make a taller guy fall with his powerful punches. I checked Canelo's height, he is 1.75 m while Tyson is 1.78 m, so not much of a difference, he can still be in HW but he has to finish his business first in CW by dominating here. Good comparison and we really can't conclude if what inside Canelo's mind. If he has this kind of desire, he needed to be accomplish one step at the time, not an easy task but if he is keen fulfilling this kind of dream the success will put his name to this sport's history. Future is not ours and we should enjoy this upcoming fight first then assume on his next target. Whatever plan he's camp has in mind will be reveal after this fight, the assessment mostly happened after the event ;) This fight will gauge his journey in the future, if he easily dominates Makabu, then there's a reason to believe that he could dominate this division. He got some skills, he is fast and precise, so all the qualities of a successful boxer is on him, if others were able to succeed when going up, for sure nothing is impossible with Canelo too. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: molsewid on December 13, 2021, 01:56:40 PM Good comparison and we really can't conclude if what inside Canelo's mind. If he has this kind of desire, he needed to be accomplish one step at the time, not an easy task but if he is keen fulfilling this kind of dream the success will put his name to this sport's history. Future is not ours and we should enjoy this upcoming fight first then assume on his next target. Whatever plan he's camp has in mind will be reveal after this fight, the assessment mostly happened after the event ;) I know everyone is keeping an eye on Canelo and believing that he could make this upcoming fight of him against Makabu favor on him again which it is undeniable that Canelo is a great fighter with no record of loss but he needed to accomplish this planned game of him before he entertain another milestone on his career. I'm sure that this fight of Canelo vs. Makabu will be one of the anticipated fight by next year and we will see what kind of performance does Canelo would going to show us as he moves up to the high level of CW. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: btc_angela on December 13, 2021, 02:00:26 PM If Canelo is successful in Cruiserweight then he might stay there for a while, but yeah, him moving to Heavies? not gonna happen. We aren't sure about that. Once a boxer is undisputed in every weight class, he is qualified for the next level. Their body is now switching to adopt a much heavy challenge as the training becomes more intense too. Canelo can move up a bit higher than Light Heavyweight if that's the goal but not a priority. As of now, Canelo wants to destroy every fighter on the way regardless of their status. If where he will end up, we don't know. But it will be dangerous for him bouncing in weight though, so I guess he would either have to stick to this new division or go to LHW with Beterviev or Bivol waiting for him it Cruiserweight will be too much for him. He give GGG a rematch though, but we wanted a 3rd fight but Canelo doesn't want it and decided to move to 168 lbs. And he can't move to Heavyweight either, I think that's out of his options for now. So either 175 lbs or cruiserweight for him. But Arum says that most likely Canelo will go down to CW and face Beterbiev somewhere in May or in September next year. Arum handles Beterbiev by the way, so it's obvious that he is shilling for his boy. But it make sense because CW is too much for Canelo I reckon. Maybe he just wanted to test the waters and if he didn't like it or if he goes to win a belt then he can go down to LW and chase more against a undefeated champion in Beterbiev. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: freedomgo on December 13, 2021, 09:28:44 PM Good comparison and we really can't conclude if what inside Canelo's mind. If he has this kind of desire, he needed to be accomplish one step at the time, not an easy task but if he is keen fulfilling this kind of dream the success will put his name to this sport's history. Future is not ours and we should enjoy this upcoming fight first then assume on his next target. Whatever plan he's camp has in mind will be reveal after this fight, the assessment mostly happened after the event ;) I know everyone is keeping an eye on Canelo and believing that he could make this upcoming fight of him against Makabu favor on him again which it is undeniable that Canelo is a great fighter with no record of loss but he needed to accomplish this planned game of him before he entertain another milestone on his career. I'm sure that this fight of Canelo vs. Makabu will be one of the anticipated fight by next year and we will see what kind of performance does Canelo would going to show us as he moves up to the high level of CW. That's wrong, Canelo is not undefeated as he has one loss and that is against Mayweather last 2013-09-14. you can check his record (https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/348759), he is now 57-1. About the fight, of course it's an anticipated fight as it's Canelo's first fight in Cruiserweight division. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: harizen on December 13, 2021, 11:21:35 PM But Arum says that most likely Canelo will go down to CW and face Beterbiev somewhere in May or in September next year. Arum handles Beterbiev by the way, so it's obvious that he is shilling for his boy. But it make sense because CW is too much for Canelo I reckon. Maybe he just wanted to test the waters and if he didn't like it or if he goes to win a belt then he can go down to LW and chase more against a undefeated champion in Beterbiev. Honestly, we can't consider it as shilling as Artur Beterbiev is really a big thing. He can be a tough opponent for Canelo before moving up facing Ilunga Makabu. A real pound-for-pound fighter won't miss a chance to fight someone like Beterbiev. Since it's just about several months to go, no official preparations nor announcements have been made on. We can surely expect some progress of it around January to February. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: goinmerry on December 13, 2021, 11:46:32 PM I know everyone is keeping an eye on Canelo and believing that he could make this upcoming fight of him against Makabu favor on him again which it is undeniable that Canelo is a great fighter with no record of loss but he needed to accomplish this planned game of him before he entertain another milestone on his career. Since Canelo is moving up, he becomes an interest to anyone. Defeating Makabu is the first step if he is fit on a much above weight class. I don't consider Makabu as an easy opponent as he is used to fighting already on that catchweight. Maybe he just wanted to test the waters and if he didn't like it or if he goes to win a belt then he can go down to LW and chase more against a undefeated champion in Beterbiev. I also thought of this but if Canelo will win the fight, he will think he can handle that weight class and will be more open to fighting much above boxers. If he loses, he will ask for a rematch before considering going back to his preferred weight class. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 15, 2021, 06:28:10 PM I know everyone is keeping an eye on Canelo and believing that he could make this upcoming fight of him against Makabu favor on him again which it is undeniable that Canelo is a great fighter with no record of loss but he needed to accomplish this planned game of him before he entertain another milestone on his career. Since Canelo is moving up, he becomes an interest to anyone. Defeating Makabu is the first step if he is fit on a much above weight class. I don't consider Makabu as an easy opponent as he is used to fighting already on that catchweight. Maybe he just wanted to test the waters and if he didn't like it or if he goes to win a belt then he can go down to LW and chase more against a undefeated champion in Beterbiev. I also thought of this but if Canelo will win the fight, he will think he can handle that weight class and will be more open to fighting much above boxers. If he loses, he will ask for a rematch before considering going back to his preferred weight class. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Questat on December 15, 2021, 09:03:00 PM I know everyone is keeping an eye on Canelo and believing that he could make this upcoming fight of him against Makabu favor on him again which it is undeniable that Canelo is a great fighter with no record of loss but he needed to accomplish this planned game of him before he entertain another milestone on his career. Since Canelo is moving up, he becomes an interest to anyone. Defeating Makabu is the first step if he is fit on a much above weight class. I don't consider Makabu as an easy opponent as he is used to fighting already on that catchweight. Maybe he just wanted to test the waters and if he didn't like it or if he goes to win a belt then he can go down to LW and chase more against a undefeated champion in Beterbiev. I also thought of this but if Canelo will win the fight, he will think he can handle that weight class and will be more open to fighting much above boxers. If he loses, he will ask for a rematch before considering going back to his preferred weight class. If I'm not mistaken, this is the first time that Canelo attempted to fight in a heavier division, so I would not really think that Canelo is better than Makabu as it's hard to compare both fighters who are not fighting in the same division, maybe the basis was only the popularity why you said that. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Silberman on December 15, 2021, 10:29:22 PM There are a lot more stronger boxers than him that is natural to their weights even in crusierweight like Makabu. So that leaves him only 2 options, it's either CW or LHW, no more higher or lower than that division. Per https://box.live/world-rankings/cruiserweight/. Makabu is actually number 2 in ranking, so he is really a good fighter in his division, but look at the betting odds, he is an underdog against Canelo, so I think there are not many quality boxers in cruiserweight division. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: goinmerry on December 15, 2021, 11:58:59 PM The odds are nowhere near exact, we must remember that even if the casinos think that Makabu is the favorite if the fans begin to bet overwhelmingly in favor of Canelo then they need to improve the odds for Canelo to the point he becomes the favorite, this is a known issue when it comes to sports bets, as popular figures or teams are preferred by casual bettors, and casinos need to take this into account when they release their odds. Gambling sites are just referring to the general odds provided by all bookies. There will be no reason at all for them to justify their odds as long as it was close to the public odds released globally. I don't remember any issues regarding Favorites that were being questioned or Underdog on the other way around. If I missed some issues related to that, can you provide me with an example? For me to have a good read that such cases happened mostly. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Kemarit on December 16, 2021, 12:44:19 AM I know everyone is keeping an eye on Canelo and believing that he could make this upcoming fight of him against Makabu favor on him again which it is undeniable that Canelo is a great fighter with no record of loss but he needed to accomplish this planned game of him before he entertain another milestone on his career. Since Canelo is moving up, he becomes an interest to anyone. Defeating Makabu is the first step if he is fit on a much above weight class. I don't consider Makabu as an easy opponent as he is used to fighting already on that catchweight. Maybe he just wanted to test the waters and if he didn't like it or if he goes to win a belt then he can go down to LW and chase more against a undefeated champion in Beterbiev. I also thought of this but if Canelo will win the fight, he will think he can handle that weight class and will be more open to fighting much above boxers. If he loses, he will ask for a rematch before considering going back to his preferred weight class. If I'm not mistaken, this is the first time that Canelo attempted to fight in a heavier division, so I would not really think that Canelo is better than Makabu as it's hard to compare both fighters who are not fighting in the same division, maybe the basis was only the popularity why you said that. Nope, not the first time, he fights in 168 lbs before and then jump to 175 lbs (LHW) and then challenge Kovalev gets the belt and then goes down to 168 lbs again and said that he won't go back to LHW and then clean up the Super MW division and then jumps to CW with a potential Makabu fight. So he is familiar with jumping on the weight class, but this time though it is a big weight disparity at it will be in the 190 lbs. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Fundamentals Of on December 16, 2021, 03:04:48 AM I know everyone is keeping an eye on Canelo and believing that he could make this upcoming fight of him against Makabu favor on him again which it is undeniable that Canelo is a great fighter with no record of loss but he needed to accomplish this planned game of him before he entertain another milestone on his career. Since Canelo is moving up, he becomes an interest to anyone. Defeating Makabu is the first step if he is fit on a much above weight class. I don't consider Makabu as an easy opponent as he is used to fighting already on that catchweight. Maybe he just wanted to test the waters and if he didn't like it or if he goes to win a belt then he can go down to LW and chase more against a undefeated champion in Beterbiev. I also thought of this but if Canelo will win the fight, he will think he can handle that weight class and will be more open to fighting much above boxers. If he loses, he will ask for a rematch before considering going back to his preferred weight class. If I'm not mistaken, this is the first time that Canelo attempted to fight in a heavier division, so I would not really think that Canelo is better than Makabu as it's hard to compare both fighters who are not fighting in the same division, maybe the basis was only the popularity why you said that. Nope, not the first time, he fights in 168 lbs before and then jump to 175 lbs (LHW) and then challenge Kovalev gets the belt and then goes down to 168 lbs again and said that he won't go back to LHW and then clean up the Super MW division and then jumps to CW with a potential Makabu fight. So he is familiar with jumping on the weight class, but this time though it is a big weight disparity at it will be in the 190 lbs. Yes, Canelo has been jumping from one weight division to another. And even when he jumped to 175 pounds he was still able to handle himself well and even scored a great knockout victory against Kovalev. So I don't think Canelo has made this decision without taking into consideration how much weight he has to gain to be able to face Makabu. If he makes it to the scale, I think he can also handle Makabu well and could even bring him to the canvas as well. But 175 to 190 has 15 pounds in the middle. That's a big amount of weight Canelo has to gain. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: molsewid on December 16, 2021, 05:17:59 AM Yes, Canelo has been jumping from one weight division to another. And even when he jumped to 175 pounds he was still able to handle himself well and even scored a great knockout victory against Kovalev. So I don't think Canelo has made this decision without taking into consideration how much weight he has to gain to be able to face Makabu. If he makes it to the scale, I think he can also handle Makabu well and could even bring him to the canvas as well. But 175 to 190 has 15 pounds in the middle. That's a big amount of weight Canelo has to gain. Based on the body built of Canelo it wouldn't be hard for him to attain the 175 pounds requirement for the Cruiserweight division and yeah for sure he and or his team wouldn't allow jumping from one division to another if they know that Canelo isn't capable of. Maybe 190 pounds would be a bit challenging for him on how to attain it but somehow I think we shouldn't have to focus on it since Canelo has already a scheduled upcoming fight against Makabu. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Sled on December 16, 2021, 01:31:29 PM Yes, Canelo has been jumping from one weight division to another. And even when he jumped to 175 pounds he was still able to handle himself well and even scored a great knockout victory against Kovalev. So I don't think Canelo has made this decision without taking into consideration how much weight he has to gain to be able to face Makabu. If he makes it to the scale, I think he can also handle Makabu well and could even bring him to the canvas as well. But 175 to 190 has 15 pounds in the middle. That's a big amount of weight Canelo has to gain. Based on the body built of Canelo it wouldn't be hard for him to attain the 175 pounds requirement for the Cruiserweight division and yeah for sure he and or his team wouldn't allow jumping from one division to another if they know that Canelo isn't capable of. Maybe 190 pounds would be a bit challenging for him on how to attain it but somehow I think we shouldn't have to focus on it since Canelo has already a scheduled upcoming fight against Makabu. Exactly, one step at a time, if Canelo could win here, he can get some fights with the other champions on the same division. This guy is really up to a challenge, I mean, he wouldn't be in his position now if he does not keep pushing himself to his limit and I believe he has not achieve his limit yet since he is fighter in a heavier division and fore sure a more challenging division than his past divisions. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Natalim on December 16, 2021, 02:56:27 PM Yes, Canelo has been jumping from one weight division to another. And even when he jumped to 175 pounds he was still able to handle himself well and even scored a great knockout victory against Kovalev. So I don't think Canelo has made this decision without taking into consideration how much weight he has to gain to be able to face Makabu. If he makes it to the scale, I think he can also handle Makabu well and could even bring him to the canvas as well. But 175 to 190 has 15 pounds in the middle. That's a big amount of weight Canelo has to gain. Based on the body built of Canelo it wouldn't be hard for him to attain the 175 pounds requirement for the Cruiserweight division and yeah for sure he and or his team wouldn't allow jumping from one division to another if they know that Canelo isn't capable of. Maybe 190 pounds would be a bit challenging for him on how to attain it but somehow I think we shouldn't have to focus on it since Canelo has already a scheduled upcoming fight against Makabu. Exactly, one step at a time, if Canelo could win here, he can get some fights with the other champions on the same division. This guy is really up to a challenge, I mean, he wouldn't be in his position now if he does not keep pushing himself to his limit and I believe he has not achieve his limit yet since he is fighter in a heavier division and fore sure a more challenging division than his past divisions. I'm sure he will win this fight, the odds difference is very convincing that even is Makabu is a natural heavy fighter but Canelo is more talented as a boxer. The opening odds pretty much tells everything. https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/canelo-alvarez-vs-ilunga-makabu-odds/ Quote Boxing odds: Canelo Alvarez -700 favorite / Ilunga Makabu +500 underdog. Canelo aims to become a five-weight world champion with a win over Makabu. Boxing fans are more familiar with Ilunga Makabu losing by KO to Tony Bellew in 2016. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Jating on December 16, 2021, 04:42:47 PM Yes, Canelo has been jumping from one weight division to another. And even when he jumped to 175 pounds he was still able to handle himself well and even scored a great knockout victory against Kovalev. So I don't think Canelo has made this decision without taking into consideration how much weight he has to gain to be able to face Makabu. If he makes it to the scale, I think he can also handle Makabu well and could even bring him to the canvas as well. But 175 to 190 has 15 pounds in the middle. That's a big amount of weight Canelo has to gain. Based on the body built of Canelo it wouldn't be hard for him to attain the 175 pounds requirement for the Cruiserweight division and yeah for sure he and or his team wouldn't allow jumping from one division to another if they know that Canelo isn't capable of. Maybe 190 pounds would be a bit challenging for him on how to attain it but somehow I think we shouldn't have to focus on it since Canelo has already a scheduled upcoming fight against Makabu. 175 lbs is for Light Heavy Weight, 190 lbs is for Cruiserweight. Maybe Canelo will weight between 180-190 lbs fighting in this division because for sure it will be hard for him to go to 200 lbs walking. Well he can lift weights to gain body muscle but it might affect his speed, which will be his biggest advantage against a natural cruiserweight like Makabu. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Fredomago on December 16, 2021, 07:34:04 PM Yes, Canelo has been jumping from one weight division to another. And even when he jumped to 175 pounds he was still able to handle himself well and even scored a great knockout victory against Kovalev. So I don't think Canelo has made this decision without taking into consideration how much weight he has to gain to be able to face Makabu. If he makes it to the scale, I think he can also handle Makabu well and could even bring him to the canvas as well. But 175 to 190 has 15 pounds in the middle. That's a big amount of weight Canelo has to gain. Based on the body built of Canelo it wouldn't be hard for him to attain the 175 pounds requirement for the Cruiserweight division and yeah for sure he and or his team wouldn't allow jumping from one division to another if they know that Canelo isn't capable of. Maybe 190 pounds would be a bit challenging for him on how to attain it but somehow I think we shouldn't have to focus on it since Canelo has already a scheduled upcoming fight against Makabu. 175 lbs is for Light Heavy Weight, 190 lbs is for Cruiserweight. Maybe Canelo will weight between 180-190 lbs fighting in this division because for sure it will be hard for him to go to 200 lbs walking. Well he can lift weights to gain body muscle but it might affect his speed, which will be his biggest advantage against a natural cruiserweight like Makabu. He needs to work more to keep his speed even he's gaining weight, like what you just said, his speed will be his greatest advantage to a natural cruiserweight division. If he can fight the way he originally has, even with this weight, the chance of winning is much better. Knowing Alvarez, he will do everything to excel. He choose to step up. There must be a good reason aside from money. We will be the witness if he can proceed and bring more fights from this new division. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Questat on December 16, 2021, 09:37:50 PM Yes, Canelo has been jumping from one weight division to another. And even when he jumped to 175 pounds he was still able to handle himself well and even scored a great knockout victory against Kovalev. So I don't think Canelo has made this decision without taking into consideration how much weight he has to gain to be able to face Makabu. If he makes it to the scale, I think he can also handle Makabu well and could even bring him to the canvas as well. But 175 to 190 has 15 pounds in the middle. That's a big amount of weight Canelo has to gain. Based on the body built of Canelo it wouldn't be hard for him to attain the 175 pounds requirement for the Cruiserweight division and yeah for sure he and or his team wouldn't allow jumping from one division to another if they know that Canelo isn't capable of. Maybe 190 pounds would be a bit challenging for him on how to attain it but somehow I think we shouldn't have to focus on it since Canelo has already a scheduled upcoming fight against Makabu. 175 lbs is for Light Heavy Weight, 190 lbs is for Cruiserweight. Maybe Canelo will weight between 180-190 lbs fighting in this division because for sure it will be hard for him to go to 200 lbs walking. Well he can lift weights to gain body muscle but it might affect his speed, which will be his biggest advantage against a natural cruiserweight like Makabu. He needs to work more to keep his speed even he's gaining weight, like what you just said, his speed will be his greatest advantage to a natural cruiserweight division. If he can fight the way he originally has, even with this weight, the chance of winning is much better. Knowing Alvarez, he will do everything to excel. He choose to step up. There must be a good reason aside from money. We will be the witness if he can proceed and bring more fights from this new division. I read some posts online that the higher the weight class the better the pay, so money is not a problem if Canelo would excel here as he will surely get big fights and be paid better than he was paid in the division he reign, after this, he can to go light heavyweight but let's not presume it now, it's too early, he has to win this fight first and it should be in a convincing way. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: agustina2 on December 16, 2021, 11:56:31 PM I read some posts online that the higher the weight class the better the pay, so money is not a problem if Canelo would excel here as he will surely get big fights and be paid better than he was paid in the division he reign, after this, he can to go light heavyweight but let's not presume it now, it's too early, he has to win this fight first and it should be in a convincing way. Yes before anything else, Canelo should win first his first match on a different division. The result will determine if he's really fit in that division. I don't see him losing but I don't look at it as an easy win. There's a big difference competing in a much higher weight class but I know Canelo can surely manage it and already preparing for it for long. In the first place, he won't decide to move up if he's not prepared physically and mentally. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Fredomago on December 17, 2021, 01:11:59 PM I read some posts online that the higher the weight class the better the pay, so money is not a problem if Canelo would excel here as he will surely get big fights and be paid better than he was paid in the division he reign, after this, he can to go light heavyweight but let's not presume it now, it's too early, he has to win this fight first and it should be in a convincing way. Yes before anything else, Canelo should win first his first match on a different division. The result will determine if he's really fit in that division. I don't see him losing but I don't look at it as an easy win. There's a big difference competing in a much higher weight class but I know Canelo can surely manage it and already preparing for it for long. In the first place, he won't decide to move up if he's not prepared physically and mentally. He and his camp knows that there's a big chance for him to win in this new division that's why they decided to move up, he needs to showcase his skills to win this fight and convince every viewers that he's fit to this new weight class. Not easy as how you described it and I completely following you with your opinion. We can say that he's fit enough once he brings down Makabu for his first fight from this new weight division. ;) 8) Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Kemarit on December 17, 2021, 02:13:40 PM I read some posts online that the higher the weight class the better the pay, so money is not a problem if Canelo would excel here as he will surely get big fights and be paid better than he was paid in the division he reign, after this, he can to go light heavyweight but let's not presume it now, it's too early, he has to win this fight first and it should be in a convincing way. Yes before anything else, Canelo should win first his first match on a different division. The result will determine if he's really fit in that division. I don't see him losing but I don't look at it as an easy win. There's a big difference competing in a much higher weight class but I know Canelo can surely manage it and already preparing for it for long. In the first place, he won't decide to move up if he's not prepared physically and mentally. Or we can say that he was 'force' to move up in weight because he has clean up the 168 lbs and he doesn't want to go back to 160 lbs anymore. He has tried 175 lbs division defeated Kovalev but there are 2 good champions waiting, Beterviev and Bivol. So the next best option and challenge for him is to go up to 180-200 which is CW and challenge the champion and get another belt for history. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Cling18 on December 17, 2021, 02:30:57 PM I know everyone is keeping an eye on Canelo and believing that he could make this upcoming fight of him against Makabu favor on him again which it is undeniable that Canelo is a great fighter with no record of loss but he needed to accomplish this planned game of him before he entertain another milestone on his career. Since Canelo is moving up, he becomes an interest to anyone. Defeating Makabu is the first step if he is fit on a much above weight class. I don't consider Makabu as an easy opponent as he is used to fighting already on that catchweight. Maybe he just wanted to test the waters and if he didn't like it or if he goes to win a belt then he can go down to LW and chase more against a undefeated champion in Beterbiev. I also thought of this but if Canelo will win the fight, he will think he can handle that weight class and will be more open to fighting much above boxers. If he loses, he will ask for a rematch before considering going back to his preferred weight class. Canelo has a huge potential in this industry. We've seen how he defended different titles which only proves that he's making a good name in the boxing field. Makabu is also a tough fighter but compared to Canelo, he's a bit weak and still has a lot to prove. I hope that he'll learn how to defeat Canelo's promising moves in the ring. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Oasisman on December 17, 2021, 02:31:46 PM I read some posts online that the higher the weight class the better the pay, so money is not a problem if Canelo would excel here as he will surely get big fights and be paid better than he was paid in the division he reign, after this, he can to go light heavyweight but let's not presume it now, it's too early, he has to win this fight first and it should be in a convincing way. Yes before anything else, Canelo should win first his first match on a different division. The result will determine if he's really fit in that division. I don't see him losing but I don't look at it as an easy win. There's a big difference competing in a much higher weight class but I know Canelo can surely manage it and already preparing for it for long. In the first place, he won't decide to move up if he's not prepared physically and mentally. History for him will happen if he can beat Makabu. This might not going to be an easy win, because climbing a weight division is a lot more riskier than the usual weight division he's fighting. It's rare to see a fighter dominating every weight division he climbed like Manny. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Questat on December 17, 2021, 07:30:41 PM I read some posts online that the higher the weight class the better the pay, so money is not a problem if Canelo would excel here as he will surely get big fights and be paid better than he was paid in the division he reign, after this, he can to go light heavyweight but let's not presume it now, it's too early, he has to win this fight first and it should be in a convincing way. Yes before anything else, Canelo should win first his first match on a different division. The result will determine if he's really fit in that division. I don't see him losing but I don't look at it as an easy win. There's a big difference competing in a much higher weight class but I know Canelo can surely manage it and already preparing for it for long. In the first place, he won't decide to move up if he's not prepared physically and mentally. History for him will happen if he can beat Makabu. This might not going to be an easy win, because climbing a weight division is a lot more riskier than the usual weight division he's fighting. It's rare to see a fighter dominating every weight division he climbed like Manny. He won't make another history by just beating Makabu, I guess he needs a tougher job and that is to dominate the Cruiserweight division and be an undisputed once again, not sure if someone had already done that but Canelo will surely make another mark on the history if he ever gets the success in this division. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Dave1 on December 18, 2021, 02:41:44 AM I read some posts online that the higher the weight class the better the pay, so money is not a problem if Canelo would excel here as he will surely get big fights and be paid better than he was paid in the division he reign, after this, he can to go light heavyweight but let's not presume it now, it's too early, he has to win this fight first and it should be in a convincing way. Yes before anything else, Canelo should win first his first match on a different division. The result will determine if he's really fit in that division. I don't see him losing but I don't look at it as an easy win. There's a big difference competing in a much higher weight class but I know Canelo can surely manage it and already preparing for it for long. In the first place, he won't decide to move up if he's not prepared physically and mentally. History for him will happen if he can beat Makabu. This might not going to be an easy win, because climbing a weight division is a lot more riskier than the usual weight division he's fighting. It's rare to see a fighter dominating every weight division he climbed like Manny. He won't make another history by just beating Makabu, I guess he needs a tougher job and that is to dominate the Cruiserweight division and be an undisputed once again, not sure if someone had already done that but Canelo will surely make another mark on the history if he ever gets the success in this division. I think it's more of a challenge for him, he embraces it that's why he moves up in weight again to cruiserweight and test himself against a natural bigger guy in Makabu. And that is the true spirit of a champion, willing to take risk and his record. And if Canelo past this one, there is no question that he is the best pound for pound boxer in the planet. No discussions about it. The second place could be between Loma or Bud Crawford. But Canelo is way above in the list. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Kemarit on December 18, 2021, 03:26:30 AM ^^ I do agree, he is following footsteps of Manny by going up in weight and winning belts.
So that is the history, first Mexican to be a 5 time champion in different weight classes if he won in this Cruiserweight division. From 154,160,168,175 and now 190 lbs. So top of the pound for pound lists again. And I think someone is envy of his accomplished. https://www.essentiallysports.com/boxing-news-floyd-mayweather-disgusted-by-canelo-alvarez-vs-ilunga-makabu/ Quote Mayweather feels Canelo is ducking David Benavidez by moving up in weight classes. Per Michael Benson, ‘Money’ said: “Canelo’s a helluva fighter, but in my personal opinion he’s ducking David Benavidez… Do I like this [Ilunga Makabu] fight? Absolutely not. We wanna see Benavidez.” Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: agustina2 on December 18, 2021, 09:19:26 AM ^^ I do agree, he is following footsteps of Manny by going up in weight and winning belts. Who is following Pacquiao's footsteps? Canelo? No way. He is not the type of boxer that will follow someone. He is creating his own journey and challenging on much higher division doesn't mean he is following Pacquiao's footsteps. They are also in a different league with Pacquiao. What Canelo achieved or will achieve is his own legacy. He respects Pacquiao but does not follow him. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Yaunfitda on December 18, 2021, 09:41:53 AM ^^ I do agree, he is following footsteps of Manny by going up in weight and winning belts. Who is following Pacquiao's footsteps? Canelo? No way. He is not the type of boxer that will follow someone. He is creating his own journey and challenging on much higher division doesn't mean he is following Pacquiao's footsteps. They are also in a different league with Pacquiao. What Canelo achieved or will achieve is his own legacy. He respects Pacquiao but does not follow him. Manny has won 8 already as most boxing pundits put it, while Canelo is attempting his 5th in CW division but I think that's the most that he will got and could be in the company of some of the best boxers who have won 5 titles or more like Oscar or Floyd. Manny is on top though. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: harizen on December 19, 2021, 11:59:24 PM Manny has won 8 already as most boxing pundits put it, while Canelo is attempting his 5th in CW division but I think that's the most that he will got and could be in the company of some of the best boxers who have won 5 titles or more like Oscar or Floyd. Manny is on top though. That's a big task if Canelo will push up to 8 holding title within the Cruiserweight. No need to do it as he can step up on another level. However, there are lots of big names on his chosen path. If possible, Canelo might achieve another milestone in his career for the next 2-3 years challenging boxers in that division. Just a surprise to me that Canelo is not aware of this fight and the plan of the supposed moving up. It was reported that he was surprised by his long-time trainer Eddy Reynoso and told him to take a shot in another title match against Ilunga Makabu. Meaning, Canelo's stepping up is just a plan but his trainer makes it real right away. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: herurist on December 20, 2021, 12:33:20 AM ^^ I do agree, he is following footsteps of Manny by going up in weight and winning belts. Who is following Pacquiao's footsteps? Canelo? No way. He is not the type of boxer that will follow someone. He is creating his own journey and challenging on much higher division doesn't mean he is following Pacquiao's footsteps. They are also in a different league with Pacquiao. What Canelo achieved or will achieve is his own legacy. He respects Pacquiao but does not follow him. to respect each other is possible because even if we compete in the ring it doesn't mean we can't respect each other. but to imitate and follow? don't make stupid jokes like this when there are no clear facts and statements from the parties concerned Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Kemarit on December 20, 2021, 12:57:26 AM ^^ I do agree, he is following footsteps of Manny by going up in weight and winning belts. Who is following Pacquiao's footsteps? Canelo? No way. He is not the type of boxer that will follow someone. He is creating his own journey and challenging on much higher division doesn't mean he is following Pacquiao's footsteps. They are also in a different league with Pacquiao. What Canelo achieved or will achieve is his own legacy. He respects Pacquiao but does not follow him. to respect each other is possible because even if we compete in the ring it doesn't mean we can't respect each other. but to imitate and follow? don't make stupid jokes like this when there are no clear facts and statements from the parties concerned My point is that he is going up in weight we've never seen such boxers in recent memories. And Canelo started in 154 and if he is going up in more than 30 lbs which Pacquaio did as well. And it's no joke although in the past there are a lot of boxers who also goes up in weight, but the impact that Pacquiao did is different specially for Mexico which Pacquiao has done for the Philippines. Of course he can't go to 8 weight class or even 6 because it's impossible for him to go to Heavyweight, but his accomplishments inside the ring, being pound for pound and the impact he brings and legacy (not political obviously) is similar to Manny. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Jating on December 20, 2021, 12:06:04 PM ^^ Regardless of what Canelo path right now, he is carving his own name in the history books.
I don't think we have seen fighters moving from 154 to 190 - 200 lbs and fight for the Cruiserweight title. Many of them only reaches as high as super Middleweight and then Roy Jones to Heavyweight. So Canelo Alvarez the first Mexican to ever to do this feat and we are all witness to it. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Ziskinberg on December 20, 2021, 02:21:24 PM ^^ Regardless of what Canelo path right now, he is carving his own name in the history books. I don't think we have seen fighters moving from 154 to 190 - 200 lbs and fight for the Cruiserweight title. Many of them only reaches as high as super Middleweight and then Roy Jones to Heavyweight. So Canelo Alvarez the first Mexican to ever to do this feat and we are all witness to it. And I wish him success so I have something to tell my grandkids once Canelo will succeed in the path he is trying to cross now. We might just say it's an easy fight for him but in reality there's a big risk that he will lose as Cruiserweight champions throw heavier punches than the fighters in the division where Canelo had won an undisputed champ. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: herurist on December 20, 2021, 04:37:58 PM ^^ I do agree, he is following footsteps of Manny by going up in weight and winning belts. Who is following Pacquiao's footsteps? Canelo? No way. He is not the type of boxer that will follow someone. He is creating his own journey and challenging on much higher division doesn't mean he is following Pacquiao's footsteps. They are also in a different league with Pacquiao. What Canelo achieved or will achieve is his own legacy. He respects Pacquiao but does not follow him. to respect each other is possible because even if we compete in the ring it doesn't mean we can't respect each other. but to imitate and follow? don't make stupid jokes like this when there are no clear facts and statements from the parties concerned My point is that he is going up in weight we've never seen such boxers in recent memories. And Canelo started in 154 and if he is going up in more than 30 lbs which Pacquaio did as well. And it's no joke although in the past there are a lot of boxers who also goes up in weight, but the impact that Pacquiao did is different specially for Mexico which Pacquiao has done for the Philippines. Of course he can't go to 8 weight class or even 6 because it's impossible for him to go to Heavyweight, but his accomplishments inside the ring, being pound for pound and the impact he brings and legacy (not political obviously) is similar to Manny. when you talk like that, it's actually an achievement in itself because they can make something interesting with different classes, especially for these two boxers. other than that I feel canelo will be able to make more extraordinary shocks with his achievements and his current age is still in a productive age for a boxer Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Fredomago on December 20, 2021, 05:06:50 PM ^^ Regardless of what Canelo path right now, he is carving his own name in the history books. I don't think we have seen fighters moving from 154 to 190 - 200 lbs and fight for the Cruiserweight title. Many of them only reaches as high as super Middleweight and then Roy Jones to Heavyweight. So Canelo Alvarez the first Mexican to ever to do this feat and we are all witness to it. And I wish him success so I have something to tell my grandkids once Canelo will succeed in the path he is trying to cross now. We might just say it's an easy fight for him but in reality there's a big risk that he will lose as Cruiserweight champions throw heavier punches than the fighters in the division where Canelo had won an undisputed champ. Indeed, those fighters from this division is more stronger the trainings and conditioning is much heavier compared from where Alvarez dominates, his chance is there but not as how we foreseen his fight from his own weight division where we are just waiting for the final announcement and expecting his name to be declared as winner. From here, we all be witness with this new path that Alvarez is trying to walk on. His skills will be challenged and if he succeeds. That's more likely the beginning of the new chapter of his career. ;) 8) Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Kasabus on December 20, 2021, 05:55:17 PM ^^ I do agree, he is following footsteps of Manny by going up in weight and winning belts. Who is following Pacquiao's footsteps? Canelo? No way. He is not the type of boxer that will follow someone. He is creating his own journey and challenging on much higher division doesn't mean he is following Pacquiao's footsteps. They are also in a different league with Pacquiao. What Canelo achieved or will achieve is his own legacy. He respects Pacquiao but does not follow him. Manny has won 8 already as most boxing pundits put it, while Canelo is attempting his 5th in CW division but I think that's the most that he will got and could be in the company of some of the best boxers who have won 5 titles or more like Oscar or Floyd. Manny is on top though. Canelo's path is different as he said that he wants to unify the 5 belts in super-MW division, so that makes him a bit different to other pro boxers. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Distinctin on December 20, 2021, 06:10:25 PM ^^ I do agree, he is following footsteps of Manny by going up in weight and winning belts. Nah man, certainly ain't going to agree about that. Canelo's footstep is going to be a much more different than Manny Pacquiao. Yes its sure looks like he's following but he sure knows that Pacquiao's footstep isn't easy to follow on or atleast be in his level and he also made it clear than he's going to make his own legacy than any other professional boxers. I think Canelo can continue what he plans, and by far Makabu and CW division is the toughest to step on.Read this: www.dazn.com/en-US/news/amp/boxing/how-many-world-championships-has-saul-canelo-alvarez-won-a-full-list-of-his-major-title-wins/27afneqpuhbp1wjk08yfamjia Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Yamifoud on December 20, 2021, 09:39:37 PM ^^ I do agree, he is following footsteps of Manny by going up in weight and winning belts. Nah man, certainly ain't going to agree about that. Canelo's footstep is going to be a much more different than Manny Pacquiao. Yes its sure looks like he's following but he sure knows that Pacquiao's footstep isn't easy to follow on or atleast be in his level and he also made it clear than he's going to make his own legacy than any other professional boxers. I think Canelo can continue what he plans, and by far Makabu and CW division is the toughest to step on.Read this: www.dazn.com/en-US/news/amp/boxing/how-many-world-championships-has-saul-canelo-alvarez-won-a-full-list-of-his-major-title-wins/27afneqpuhbp1wjk08yfamjia Manny Pacquiao is the only 8th division worth champion, I guess Canelo is only 4 or 5 now? I think he cannot surpass the success of Pacquiao but his journey is still remarkable as he is the only fighter (correct me if I'm wrong) to try to dominate in heavyweight classes. Anyway, let's watch the result of his fight and judge his future afterward. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: harizen on December 20, 2021, 11:42:51 PM Manny Pacquiao is the only 8th division worth champion, I guess Canelo is only 4 or 5 now? I think he cannot surpass the success of Pacquiao but his journey is still remarkable as he is the only fighter (correct me if I'm wrong) to try to dominate in heavyweight classes. Anyway, let's watch the result of his fight and judge his future afterward. What do you mean by surpassing? Generally, Canelo's competition is much tougher but that is obvious because that is where he is capable of. Pacquiao on the other hand goes the same. If everything is just counting the winning titles per weight class, Canelo can start at a much lighter division when he started up. There's should be no room for comparison here. Look at Canelo, now in Cruiserweight where he is just supposed or keep staying in Light Heavyweight or Welterweight division. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: agustina2 on December 20, 2021, 11:52:38 PM From here, we all be witness with this new path that Alvarez is trying to walk on. His skills will be challenged and if he succeeds. That's more likely the beginning of the new chapter of his career. ;) 8) I hope so he will succeed. Cruiserweight is tough and there big names that he needed to fight in order to get that another top achievement in his career. If he is able to defeat Ilunga Makabu, those big names will be alarmed. Step by step, I'm sure Canelo can make it. It's been a while since we saw a boxer with that kind of path. Let's follow what will happen to him. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Fundamentals Of on December 21, 2021, 01:43:29 AM From here, we all be witness with this new path that Alvarez is trying to walk on. His skills will be challenged and if he succeeds. That's more likely the beginning of the new chapter of his career. ;) 8) I hope so he will succeed. Cruiserweight is tough and there big names that he needed to fight in order to get that another top achievement in his career. If he is able to defeat Ilunga Makabu, those big names will be alarmed. Step by step, I'm sure Canelo can make it. It's been a while since we saw a boxer with that kind of path. Let's follow what will happen to him. If Ilunga Makabu is defeated in this match against Canelo Alvarez, Canelo's boxing world will become significantly widened. His choices of opponents will become wider and wider. There will definitely be big names who will be interested to face Canelo knowing that he is still the same monster even in a much higher weight division. But it is interesting to see how Canelo would turn out in 190. That's an uncharted territory for him. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Baofeng on December 21, 2021, 01:46:10 AM From here, we all be witness with this new path that Alvarez is trying to walk on. His skills will be challenged and if he succeeds. That's more likely the beginning of the new chapter of his career. ;) 8) I hope so he will succeed. Cruiserweight is tough and there big names that he needed to fight in order to get that another top achievement in his career. If he is able to defeat Ilunga Makabu, those big names will be alarmed. Step by step, I'm sure Canelo can make it. It's been a while since we saw a boxer with that kind of path. Let's follow what will happen to him. I think Canelo is just testing the waters in Cruiserweight, if he succeeded then maybe he could stay. But if he felt that the weight is too much for him, perhaps he will go down to Light Heavy Weight and make it a home for himself. And there's a lot of good champions in there, like Beterviev who just recently won by a knock out. We also have Bivol holding the other belts. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Natalim on December 21, 2021, 12:30:19 PM From here, we all be witness with this new path that Alvarez is trying to walk on. His skills will be challenged and if he succeeds. That's more likely the beginning of the new chapter of his career. ;) 8) I hope so he will succeed. Cruiserweight is tough and there big names that he needed to fight in order to get that another top achievement in his career. If he is able to defeat Ilunga Makabu, those big names will be alarmed. Step by step, I'm sure Canelo can make it. It's been a while since we saw a boxer with that kind of path. Let's follow what will happen to him. I think Canelo is just testing the waters in Cruiserweight, if he succeeded then maybe he could stay. But if he felt that the weight is too much for him, perhaps he will go down to Light Heavy Weight and make it a home for himself. And there's a lot of good champions in there, like Beterviev who just recently won by a knock out. We also have Bivol holding the other belts. He is testing like he is in his good comfort, why I'd say that? The betting line is very clear, he is the heavy favorite to win the fight although he has not won a single fight in this division, so people really believe he can make it and does not think much that Makabu can beat Canelo. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: btc_angela on December 21, 2021, 02:07:27 PM From here, we all be witness with this new path that Alvarez is trying to walk on. His skills will be challenged and if he succeeds. That's more likely the beginning of the new chapter of his career. ;) 8) I hope so he will succeed. Cruiserweight is tough and there big names that he needed to fight in order to get that another top achievement in his career. If he is able to defeat Ilunga Makabu, those big names will be alarmed. Step by step, I'm sure Canelo can make it. It's been a while since we saw a boxer with that kind of path. Let's follow what will happen to him. I think Canelo is just testing the waters in Cruiserweight, if he succeeded then maybe he could stay. But if he felt that the weight is too much for him, perhaps he will go down to Light Heavy Weight and make it a home for himself. And there's a lot of good champions in there, like Beterviev who just recently won by a knock out. We also have Bivol holding the other belts. He is testing like he is in his good comfort, why I'd say that? The betting line is very clear, he is the heavy favorite to win the fight although he has not won a single fight in this division, so people really believe he can make it and does not think much that Makabu can beat Canelo. I think the odds are base on the fighters record itself and Canelo although moving up the division has the advantage as per sport makers because of his records of going up it weight and winning, just like in the Kovalev fight. He also clean up the super middle so that speaks for Canelo's record. So Makabu or anyone should be ready for Canelo now in their division as he might do the same (cleaning it up). Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 21, 2021, 03:15:30 PM ^^ Regardless of what Canelo path right now, he is carving his own name in the history books. I don't think we have seen fighters moving from 154 to 190 - 200 lbs and fight for the Cruiserweight title. Many of them only reaches as high as super Middleweight and then Roy Jones to Heavyweight. So Canelo Alvarez the first Mexican to ever to do this feat and we are all witness to it. And I wish him success so I have something to tell my grandkids once Canelo will succeed in the path he is trying to cross now. We might just say it's an easy fight for him but in reality there's a big risk that he will lose as Cruiserweight champions throw heavier punches than the fighters in the division where Canelo had won an undisputed champ. The fact that Canelo has a higher level of demand is what draws the most attention, and I think he does not have it very easy, what happens is that we have a scheme of a Canelo that can do everything, and he fights so well, that It makes it look very easy, for me Canelo wins, but it is true that it is a category that has more weight than him, and this can affect him, although as I said before, Canelo has privileged genetics compared to many boxers, Makabu is a good boxer, And although he is in another category of more weight, Canelo will be able to make a difference and continue writing history. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: carlisle1 on December 21, 2021, 03:30:42 PM Manny Pacquiao is the only 8th division worth champion, I guess Canelo is only 4 or 5 now? I think he cannot surpass the success of Pacquiao but his journey is still remarkable as he is the only fighter (correct me if I'm wrong) to try to dominate in heavyweight classes. Anyway, let's watch the result of his fight and judge his future afterward. What do you mean by surpassing? Generally, Canelo's competition is much tougher but that is obvious because that is where he is capable of. Pacquiao on the other hand goes the same. If everything is just counting the winning titles per weight class, Canelo can start at a much lighter division when he started up. There's should be no room for comparison here. Look at Canelo, now in Cruiserweight where he is just supposed or keep staying in Light Heavyweight or Welterweight division. What's Canelo's trying to do now is a great challenge to every fighter that has that goal to in writing their names with this sport. If he wins this one and continues to fight from every division that he can move, he will retire his name with a legendary honor. Still too early to conclude, he needs to be accomplished step by step.. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Russlenat on December 22, 2021, 12:29:12 PM Still too early to conclude, he needs to be accomplished step by step.. This is his first step actually, so he needs to win here so the other champions will consider Canelo a huge threat. Maybe they are still complacent now because they believe they are stronger than Canelo who is going up in weight, but once Canelo proved that to them, I'm sure things would change. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: herurist on December 24, 2021, 03:02:30 PM Still too early to conclude, he needs to be accomplished step by step.. This is his first step actually, so he needs to win here so the other champions will consider Canelo a huge threat. Maybe they are still complacent now because they believe they are stronger than Canelo who is going up in weight, but once Canelo proved that to them, I'm sure things would change. this is Canello's first step and he has to be serious in his training this time, because this is a new class and he still hasn't fought with boxers in this class before so knowledge about each other's opponents can't be known much apart from watching their previous match Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Vaculin on December 24, 2021, 09:22:32 PM Still too early to conclude, he needs to be accomplished step by step.. This is his first step actually, so he needs to win here so the other champions will consider Canelo a huge threat. Maybe they are still complacent now because they believe they are stronger than Canelo who is going up in weight, but once Canelo proved that to them, I'm sure things would change. this is Canello's first step and he has to be serious in his training this time, because this is a new class and he still hasn't fought with boxers in this class before so knowledge about each other's opponents can't be known much apart from watching their previous match Canelo is always serious with this training that's why he became an undisputed champion in a division where he reign for many years. Now, trying to push himself to the limit, he is going to a heavier weight class and judging by the betting odds, you can tell that the fans are still supporting him and believing that he can still dominate here. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Kelvinid on December 24, 2021, 09:33:08 PM Still too early to conclude, he needs to be accomplished step by step.. This is his first step actually, so he needs to win here so the other champions will consider Canelo a huge threat. Maybe they are still complacent now because they believe they are stronger than Canelo who is going up in weight, but once Canelo proved that to them, I'm sure things would change. this is Canello's first step and he has to be serious in his training this time, because this is a new class and he still hasn't fought with boxers in this class before so knowledge about each other's opponents can't be known much apart from watching their previous match Canelo is always serious with this training that's why he became an undisputed champion in a division where he reign for many years. Now, trying to push himself to the limit, he is going to a heavier weight class and judging by the betting odds, you can tell that the fans are still supporting him and believing that he can still dominate here. Agree with that, because he won't become an undisputed champion if he is not seriously training in every game. I see him as a good example of a boxer, the discipline is there and he is very ambitious to achieve his goal, I mean he is trying to make history here and since he is still young, I expect him to achieve more success in the long run. Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu is a good ifght to witness, but just like a regular fan, I'm going with Canelo who never fails to amazed me. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: molsewid on December 25, 2021, 05:39:06 AM Agree with that, because he won't become an undisputed champion if he is not seriously training in every game. I see him as a good example of a boxer, the discipline is there and he is very ambitious to achieve his goal, I mean he is trying to make history here and since he is still young, I expect him to achieve more success in the long run. Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu is a good ifght to witness, but just like a regular fan, I'm going with Canelo who never fails to amazed me. Canelo has a fighting spirit that always leads him to a victorious fight and that's why also he became the undisputed champion at the present time. Leveling up from his current division to CW will be going challenging for Canelo but for sure he and his team have been assessing and analyzing already if Canelo would be fit to level up his division. It is also undoubtedly that Canelo Vs. Makabu will be going to be one of the anticipated fights, it will going to be challenging for both fighters but like many of us here I am also going to be with Canelo. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Kemarit on December 25, 2021, 07:51:03 AM Agree with that, because he won't become an undisputed champion if he is not seriously training in every game. I see him as a good example of a boxer, the discipline is there and he is very ambitious to achieve his goal, I mean he is trying to make history here and since he is still young, I expect him to achieve more success in the long run. Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu is a good ifght to witness, but just like a regular fan, I'm going with Canelo who never fails to amazed me. Canelo has a fighting spirit that always leads him to a victorious fight and that's why also he became the undisputed champion at the present time. Leveling up from his current division to CW will be going challenging for Canelo but for sure he and his team have been assessing and analyzing already if Canelo would be fit to level up his division. It is also undoubtedly that Canelo Vs. Makabu will be going to be one of the anticipated fights, it will going to be challenging for both fighters but like many of us here I am also going to be with Canelo. I don't know if it is true, but I read that Canelo was surprised to see that his trainer Eddie Reynoso proposes this fight during the WBC convention. So it really didn't come from Canelo itself, but the idea was Reynoso from the beginning. But Canelo is his student so maybe he can't complain what the teacher wanted from his student. But for sure he knows Canelo's ability and he knows that he can win this fight in CW. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Baofeng on December 25, 2021, 07:45:02 PM Just inserting Eddie Hearn's opinion about Canelo's career jump on cruiserweight. Hearn is known to promote Canelo Alvarez, but their relationship is somewhat different, as far as I know there is no contract between them. It's that the Canelo chooses him at this point as his de-facto promoter.
Quote “I personally think Canelo should look to become undisputed at 175. And I think he can do it. To be undisputed in two weight classes will be incredible, and I think that’s a move that will be very exciting. “So whether you’re Dmitry Bivol or whether you’re Joe Smith and whether you’re Artur Beterbiev, you hope that Canelo Alvarez will give you that call to give you the opportunity to be in a mega-fight.” https://www.boxingscene.com/eddie-hearn-says-canelo-alvarez-resume-career-175--163028 As other's have been calling here, Canelo should stick to 175 lbs and become undisputed. And it will be history if he does become undisputed in 2 weight classes. Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: herurist on December 25, 2021, 08:48:16 PM Still too early to conclude, he needs to be accomplished step by step.. This is his first step actually, so he needs to win here so the other champions will consider Canelo a huge threat. Maybe they are still complacent now because they believe they are stronger than Canelo who is going up in weight, but once Canelo proved that to them, I'm sure things would change. this is Canello's first step and he has to be serious in his training this time, because this is a new class and he still hasn't fought with boxers in this class before so knowledge about each other's opponents can't be known much apart from watching their previous match Canelo is always serious with this training that's why he became an undisputed champion in a division where he reign for many years. Now, trying to push himself to the limit, he is going to a heavier weight class and judging by the betting odds, you can tell that the fans are still supporting him and believing that he can still dominate here. for serious training is something he really must do at this time because indeed he is now in the spotlight because he managed to move up to a division that more than anyone else could imagine against him. but of course we don't just look at Canelo even though he is a pretty good boxer, but also look at Makabu because he really won't be able to make Canelo swing smoothly at this time, especially since Makabu is one of the boxers who has a hard hit in my opinion. . Aside from this achievement is self-respect at stake Title: Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu Post by: Fredomago on December 26, 2021, 02:18:00 AM Agree with that, because he won't become an undisputed champion if he is not seriously training in every game. I see him as a good example of a boxer, the discipline is there and he is very ambitious to achieve his goal, I mean he is trying to make history here and since he is still young, I expect him to achieve more success in the long run. Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu is a good ifght to witness, but just like a regular fan, I'm going with Canelo who never fails to amazed me. Canelo has a fighting spirit that always leads him to a victorious fight and that's why also he became the undisputed champion at the present time. Leveling up from his current division to CW will be going challenging for Canelo but for sure he and his team have been assessing and analyzing already if Canelo would be fit to level up his division. It is also undoubtedly that Canelo Vs. Makabu will be going to be one of the anticipated fights, it will going to be challenging for both fighters but like many of us here I am also going to be with Canelo. That's also my position regarding to Canelo's decision. He and his camp did a deeper assessment before they decided to level up, they see the potential that Canelo can take this challenge and still have a better chance in winning another title from this division though the opponent is much tougher and the level of trainings is far heavier than from his current but it will be a good challenged and a great achievement once he fulfill this new chapter of his career. |