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Title: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on March 01, 2022, 06:41:57 PM
It was in the news yesterday that FIFA and UEFA has together suspended Russian Football teams and clubs indefinitely.
It was said that all the teams that were supposed to play against Russia in their forth coming friendlies and world cup qualifiers vowed to boycott the match, so at the end, FIFA and UEFA had no choice but the suspend Russia from all international matches.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/12/16/E5IX1.png

Russia in response to the suspension has come out to say that the suspension is discriminatory.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/12/16/E5szm.png

What do you guys think of this development? How will this affect the players and athletes as well as workers in/for the team, how about the forth coming world cup?


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Silberman on March 02, 2022, 09:30:17 PM
It was in the news yesterday that FIFA and UEFA has together suspended Russian Football teams and clubs indefinitely.
It was said that all the teams that were supposed to play against Russia in their forth coming friendlies and world cup qualifiers vowed to boycott the match, so at the end, FIFA and UEFA had no choice but the suspend Russia from all international matches.


Russia in response to the suspension has come out to say that the suspension is discriminatory.


What do you guys think of this development? How will this affect the players and athletes as well as workers in/for the team, how about the forth coming world cup?
Russia had advanced to the second round of qualifiers and they were supposed to play against Poland on March 24, however due to the suspension not only they will be unable to play but it seems Poland is going to move automatically to the Final of Path B to dispute a ticket to the world cup, it is unfortunate that something like this is happening but I think we all knew it was coming, in the sport world Russia had been sanctioned several times already, and now with the invasion of Ukraine it seems many sport federations simply decided it was too much and took measures against Russia.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: KennyR on March 02, 2022, 10:36:18 PM
It was in the news yesterday that FIFA and UEFA has together suspended Russian Football teams and clubs indefinitely.
It was said that all the teams that were supposed to play against Russia in their forth coming friendlies and world cup qualifiers vowed to boycott the match, so at the end, FIFA and UEFA had no choice but the suspend Russia from all international matches.


Russia in response to the suspension has come out to say that the suspension is discriminatory.


What do you guys think of this development? How will this affect the players and athletes as well as workers in/for the team, how about the forth coming world cup?
Russia had advanced to the second round of qualifiers and they were supposed to play against Poland on March 24, however due to the suspension not only they will be unable to play but it seems Poland is going to move automatically to the Final of Path B to dispute a ticket to the world cup, it is unfortunate that something like this is happening but I think we all knew it was coming, in the sport world Russia had been sanctioned several times already, and now with the invasion of Ukraine it seems many sport federations simply decided it was too much and took measures against Russia.
Earlier Poland announced that it won't play against Russia for the invasion it has done on Ukraine. By the time it seemed like an easy go for Russia to enter the final of B. Now the official announcement have made Poland get into the final. Russia shouldn't have done this. To build a nation it requires years and years. Now the sufferings were to the citizens, think of this players. With big dreams they might've given the best, but in the middle everything got vanished. Then to play the same series, they don't know when this gonna happen.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: blockman on March 03, 2022, 11:17:33 AM
With all of those suspensions that the Russian teams are getting for every sport just after the sanctions. I'm expecting that there will be more of it and even there are a lot of suspensions that they've received.
I've seen that some of the sports have remained neutral and still allow Russian players to play for their sport. There's the other news a few days ago that FIFA will allow them to play but they won't be under the flag of Russia.
(https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/fifa-to-allow-russia-to-play-on-but-not-under-the-name-russia-1.4813639)


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: masulum on March 03, 2022, 01:34:40 PM
FIFA must be consistent with regulations like this, if they don't want to include the names of countries attacking other countries because of political problems until a war occurs like Russia, then in the future they must do the same thing. It would be unfair if this was only done for Russia, considering that football should not be associated with politics. If I'm not mistaken, in the past when Israel and Palestine had political problems, FIFA did not take serious action against Israeli football. (CMIIW). So, if this is the first step from FIFA, and the same thing should be done in the future.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: mindrust on March 03, 2022, 01:48:06 PM
FIFA must be consistent with regulations like this, if they don't want to include the names of countries attacking other countries because of political problems until a war occurs like Russia, then in the future they must do the same thing. It would be unfair if this was only done for Russia, considering that football should not be associated with politics. If I'm not mistaken, in the past when Israel and Palestine had political problems, FIFA did not take serious action against Israeli football. (CMIIW). So, if this is the first step from FIFA, and the same thing should be done in the future.

I wonder... why didn't FIFA ban the US when they were invading Iraq? (for nothing btw) Nobody was complaining back then when the US soldiers were bombing Baghdad and hanging Saddam Hussein live on TV. Suddenly everybody lost their shit when Russia is doing the same thing. I am not saying Russia is right to invade Ukraine. However, the reaction they are getting from the west is simply showing how two-faced the west really is.

The US nuked Japan ffs. NUKED. Nobody cared.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: zidanw on March 03, 2022, 02:22:19 PM

I get your point here, @mindrust. That is why I also agree with @masulum, that FIFA and any organization that would intend to do such suspension because of political conflicts, public safety and or any other matters, they must be consistent, fair and equivalent in making decisions for all. Because if not, it shows how personal biases are ignited and are emerging during these times.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Luzin on March 03, 2022, 02:29:31 PM
I wonder... why didn't FIFA ban the US when they were invading Iraq? (for nothing btw) Nobody was complaining back then when the US soldiers were bombing Baghdad and hanging Saddam Hussein live on TV. Suddenly everybody lost their shit when Russia is doing the same thing. I am not saying Russia is right to invade Ukraine. However, the reaction they are getting from the west is simply showing how two-faced the west really is.

The US nuked Japan ffs. NUKED. Nobody cared.

That's what disappointed me with FIFA or UEFA. They're like having a double standard that doesn't make sense. It is one proof of how the power of a handful of figures influences the neutrality of a global institution, sadly. If it didn't, there shouldn't be such a rule now. As a football observer of course I am disappointed, they have violated their own rules to become an independent institution unaffected by the political, economic countries of the world. This proves discrimination still exists.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: noorman0 on March 03, 2022, 03:05:31 PM
FIFA and UEFA tend to be easily influenced by political power. This will happen at any time to a country that is against an influential country. And talking about the national team club which is (in my opinion) only a small scope, with some political pressure to create the decision of a match like this. Can't imagine the loss when sports bettors have to lose without seeing the match.

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By the time it seemed like an easy go for Russia to enter the final of B. Now the official announcement have made Poland get into the final.
Just hope the betting company will consider canceling the bet as this is not a valid win.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: erep on March 03, 2022, 03:59:25 PM
That's what disappointed me with FIFA or UEFA. They're like having a double standard that doesn't make sense. It is one proof of how the power of a handful of figures influences the neutrality of a global institution, sadly. If it didn't, there shouldn't be such a rule now. As a football observer of course I am disappointed, they have violated their own rules to become an independent institution unaffected by the political, economic countries of the world. This proves discrimination still exists.
The partiality of imposing strict sanctions on the suspension of football only to Russia shows the non-neutrality of FIFA or UEFA, if for humanitarian reasons it is necessary to reconsider that other colonial countries deserve an equivalent suspension, the point of assessment is that the suspension of FIFA or UEFA is due to factors of the political elite and not independent.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Gozie51 on March 03, 2022, 04:19:10 PM
That's what disappointed me with FIFA or UEFA. They're like having a double standard that doesn't make sense. It is one proof of how the power of a handful of figures influences the neutrality of a global institution, sadly. If it didn't, there shouldn't be such a rule now. As a football observer of course I am disappointed, they have violated their own rules to become an independent institution unaffected by the political, economic countries of the world. This proves discrimination still exists.
The partiality of imposing strict sanctions on the suspension of football only to Russia shows the non-neutrality of FIFA or UEFA, if for humanitarian reasons it is necessary to reconsider that other colonial countries deserve an equivalent suspension, the point of assessment is that the suspension of FIFA or UEFA is due to factors of the political elite and not independent.

But FIFA and UEFA are part of the world, they are part of Europe and can not do things in isolation of their own. Russia is receiving sanctions of the action on Ukraine, in sports it is not only the football bodies that have come against Russia, like I read the Taekwondo federation have taken the black belt away from Putin. Again for example if for example UEFA and FIFA didn't suspend Russia and they need to travel to airspace that have been banned for Russian flight ? You see they can't travel too to meet up with games because Europe and America banned Russian flights. Again just today 141 countries have voted against the invasion of Ukraine by Russia, 5 voted for supporting Russia and 35 countries are indifferent, so what is the margin difference for support and no support. We can see that FIFA and UEFA are not going to act against the host countries. Those 141 countries that against the invasion are also members of FIFA and UEFA, they carry the decision of their countries. This is the way I see the analysis of the current sanctions here and there against Russia.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Joca97 on March 03, 2022, 04:42:13 PM
FIFA must be consistent with regulations like this, if they don't want to include the names of countries attacking other countries because of political problems until a war occurs like Russia, then in the future they must do the same thing. It would be unfair if this was only done for Russia, considering that football should not be associated with politics. If I'm not mistaken, in the past when Israel and Palestine had political problems, FIFA did not take serious action against Israeli football. (CMIIW). So, if this is the first step from FIFA, and the same thing should be done in the future.

I wonder... why didn't FIFA ban the US when they were invading Iraq? (for nothing btw) Nobody was complaining back then when the US soldiers were bombing Baghdad and hanging Saddam Hussein live on TV. Suddenly everybody lost their shit when Russia is doing the same thing. I am not saying Russia is right to invade Ukraine. However, the reaction they are getting from the west is simply showing how two-faced the west really is.

The US nuked Japan ffs. NUKED. Nobody cared.

I agree with you 100%. FIFA and UEFA didnt do anything back then. Now when Russia is attacking Ukraine they are getting blamed like this happened for the first time in the world. USA is in war every single year and no body says anything about them. Russian football players dreamt of going to the World Cup and now FIFA has taken that away from them. Its not their fault they are in war. This is why people dont like FIFA and UEFA these couple of years.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Mr.Scott on March 03, 2022, 05:00:37 PM
FIFA and UEFA have no choice but to take a heavy and hard decision after a growing number of countries say they will not compete against Russia. Some will criticize, while the rest will praise it. It is clear who supports and who does not. The situation might be unacceptable for the good of football, but that is how things are working. At least the European Football Association and FIFA are all in agreement about banning Russian football teams and all their affiliated clubs. It isn't a problem to be Russian; it is an action to minimize the temper of the European countries.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Tumanggor on March 03, 2022, 06:10:01 PM
It was in the news yesterday that FIFA and UEFA has together suspended Russian Football teams and clubs indefinitely.
It was said that all the teams that were supposed to play against Russia in their forth coming friendlies and world cup qualifiers vowed to boycott the match, so at the end, FIFA and UEFA had no choice but the suspend Russia from all international matches.

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Russia in response to the suspension has come out to say that the suspension is discriminatory.

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What do you guys think of this development? How will this affect the players and athletes as well as workers in/for the team, how about the forth coming world cup?
I think this is an attempt by fifa and uefa to help put pressure on putin to make peace with ukraine and i support that

Without pressure, Putin will take it lightly and won't listen to other people, including his citizens. May the Russian people tirelessly continue to press for Putin to stop attacking, because the sanctions for fifa and uefa will only stop if peace is agreed


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: wxa7115 on March 03, 2022, 06:13:17 PM

I get your point here, @mindrust. That is why I also agree with @masulum, that FIFA and any organization that would intend to do such suspension because of political conflicts, public safety and or any other matters, they must be consistent, fair and equivalent in making decisions for all. Because if not, it shows how personal biases are ignited and are emerging during these times.
That would be the ideal but we know that  it is never going to happen, that will require that the ones at the top of FIFA were impartial and we know that is something that it is almost impossible for people to do.

This is why I think a regulation inside FIFA should be discussed, and if they want to set a precedent with this then any federation which belongs to a country currently invading another should be suspend automatically regardless of the reasons behind the invasion, this way a decision like this would not be seen as unilateral or taking sides and the federations will know that such a sanction is coming, but I also doubt that something like this could take place.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: SquallLeonhart on March 03, 2022, 09:18:42 PM
They are even getting kicked out of FIFA games as well from EA. I know that the war is horrible and disgusting, and sanctions makes sense, like kicking them out of swift systems makes sense, that's at least sanctions. But all these "kick the Russian students out", or "hold the NFTs of Russians" or now this one, hell they are kicked out of "cat federation" which I have no clue what that is, like why is that even a thing?

In sports F1, not being racing in the Russian track this year made sense, like that is understandable, that is not something weird, you may not want to go there and that's fine. But to avoid putting their teams on games? Like that one is a bit too much reaction.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: RILWAN on March 03, 2022, 09:29:18 PM
Why in goodness sake will anyone want war how can Putin bring down the entire country's economy and making citizens of another hardship that is currently being experienced in Ukraine, we all call for peace war is never welcome first was financial sanction and now FIFA and UEFA ban Russia from world football competition.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: gantez on March 03, 2022, 09:31:32 PM
This is not what is in the power of the football bodies to do when other countries football teams have decided they won't play with Russia then the governing body has to make it official to prevent them from playing. Making it official is better so they can go home and settle issue. Russia is already facing lots of sanction and we can see it is affecting the people to live a good life and this is an example for other countries that will want to invade a smaller country.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: avikz on March 04, 2022, 04:31:18 AM
Western countries are eager to impose ban on Russia in whatsoever manner possible! This sports ban is just a part of it! There are obviously many countries who are not willing to play with Russia or keep any association with them at this moment. But do you think Russia deserves this?

If invading to Ukraine is the reason, US should have been banned from the world for invading Iraq and Afghanistan. Look at those countries now, they have completely collapsed due to the aggression from US which was initiated in the name of war against terrorism. Today's Russian attack on Ukraine is happening as NATO wanted to include Ukraine in their group despite not being eligible.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Fundamentals Of on March 04, 2022, 05:23:08 AM
I think the ban or suspension against Russian and even Belarusian athletes are not just imposed by the FIFA and EUFA leagues. There are other leagues that also issued their own ban. Even the Executive Board of the International Olympic Committee has recommended that International Sports Federations and other organizers of sports events and competitions around the world should ban Russian and Belarusian athletes and even officials.

https://olympics.com/ioc/news/ioc-eb-recommends-no-participation-of-russian-and-belarusian-athletes-and-officials


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Wexnident on March 04, 2022, 05:52:15 AM
It wasn't really unexpected, there's been a lot of sanctions recently in the Russian sports scene, I reckon its entirety would eventually get hit by sanctions like these. It is kinda sad though since their representation of their country is the one that's literally destroying their careers right now. I know it's a method to pressure Putin, but really, it's affecting everyone except him. It's attacking the wrong part of the wall really. I personally would allow teams to participate, but don't allow events to happen in their country.

Pretty sure at this point they're just doing the bans cause the issue was blown out of proportion, plus compared to the past, dissemination of info is way easier. I'm not saying that they didn't have a choice back then or that they ignored it, only they can answer that, but right now, they had to make a move since it's like they're being forced to do something as well. Just to show that they belong to that moral highground or something you know?


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Oneandpure on March 04, 2022, 06:32:27 AM
Finally, the Russian football federation or RFS appealed the sanctions that had been given by FIFA and UEFA against the Russian national team which was disqualified from the world cup play-off round and also Spartak Moscow who had to exit the last 16 of the UEFA Europe League early after being disqualified by UEFA. Strict steps were taken by the Russian football federation considering that there was no connection at all between the invasion and the war with Ukraine. FIFA and UEFA have criticized the political actions taken by some players and supporters when providing support for Palestine but currently UEFA and FIFA have quite different views with Russia invasion right now.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: michellee on March 04, 2022, 06:36:50 AM
Maybe that is the effect of what Putin has done that FIFA and UEFA decided to suspend Russian football teams and clubs indefinitely. There will come a time when those affected by the suspension will protest against the Russian government because they cannot work as usual. It may only be temporary until the situation subsides and if Russia can halt the offensive, the suspension may be lifted again. It depends on how the Russian leaders will act because this will indirectly affect the people.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Bloodseekers on March 04, 2022, 07:34:43 AM
Western countries are eager to impose ban on Russia in whatsoever manner possible! This sports ban is just a part of it! There are obviously many countries who are not willing to play with Russia or keep any association with them at this moment. But do you think Russia deserves this?

If invading to Ukraine is the reason, US should have been banned from the world for invading Iraq and Afghanistan. Look at those countries now, they have completely collapsed due to the aggression from US which was initiated in the name of war against terrorism. Today's Russian attack on Ukraine is happening as NATO wanted to include Ukraine in their group despite not being eligible.

This is really unfair to Russia.
The decision not to include Russia in the World Cup is purely a political decision of America and its allies. even though we know that FIFA has always said that politics should not interfere in this football. Maybe this applies only to them, and in their favor because FIFA is under their control.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: rodskee on March 04, 2022, 08:15:06 AM
Isn't it expected ? as I believe that even before the case happens Russian Government expected this

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Russia in response to the suspension has come out to say that the suspension is discriminatory.

https://i.imgur.com/2bgoHRe.png
They have no rights to call this as discrimination as their action towards Ukraine is unacceptable .
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What do you guys think of this development? How will this affect the players and athletes as well as workers in/for the team, how about the forth coming world cup?
athletes are representing their country no matter what so their only choice is to either wait for the war to end? or go to other country and play for them instead of their own country presentation .


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: buwaytress on March 04, 2022, 08:38:46 AM
Seeing a number of articles too on lesser known media about the athletes themselves speaking out, or staying silent.

Eveny favourite Livescores apps have stopped broadcasting any results from Russia.

Have to say these are all the right decisions. And now is not the time to talk about anything else but I would hope to see the same support and condemnation for any clear violation of peace and rights.

This shows that people can unite. As we should.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: junmisakiro on March 04, 2022, 09:55:27 AM
It is very unfortunate indeed when sports are mixed by political leaders for their personal interests.
I think FIFA should be observant in looking at this problem and I think there should be many countries that help Russia to continue to be able to contribute to the biggest football event in the world this year.
this is exactly the same as what America did to eastern countries and Israel to Palestine but why only Russia is being sanctioned, this is really unfair.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: iv4n on March 04, 2022, 10:12:03 AM
FIFA and UEFA tend to be easily influenced by political power.

Sport should be above politics and war, which is unfortunately not the case! Once again we have a case where politics poisons everyone around it and draws a lot of innocent people into its political games that led to the war!

At the moment (and it has happened before) sport is used as a war tactic, and I think that is not smart and that nothing positive will come out of it! We are talking about further spreading hatred and injuring innocent people who are not involved in any way in this, except that they may have had the good fortune/misfortune to be born where they were born! I felt all that on my skin, it can be said that I still feel the consequences!


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: tyz on March 04, 2022, 10:23:31 AM
The Polish Football Association yesterday even proposed to introduce a special transfer period to allow players from Russia to move abroad immediately. If UEFA really allows this transfer period, there would certainly be an exodus of players from Russia. And the Russian clubs would probably not be able to prevent it, as they are exposed to extreme financial burdens with the sanctions.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Smartvirus on March 04, 2022, 10:40:57 AM
do you think Russia deserves this?

Today's Russian attack on Ukraine is happening as NATO wanted to include Ukraine in their group despite not being eligible.
That's one question I ask myself everyday with the thrilling news on the bans and sanctions that are being dished out to Russia and Russians on a daily. It kind of seems unfair and too much. For a nation like Ukraine that has some parts of its town to be Russian speaking especially those at there borders, its had to say on either, Russian shouldn't take a step towards avoiding there recent move to be a part of NATO.

The US and Russians aren't nations that are fund of themselves on any count and with Ukraine being a part of NATO, it indirectly or directly grants US a free pass unto Russians borders and this is what Russia is fighting so had to avoid. Ukraine and Russian athletes seems like those caught in the cross fire but, I feel its so much. Not playing or participating under a Russian flag could be the way to go but, a complete ban and free pass for teams they Russian athletes were supposed to compete with doesn't seem all right.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: KTChampions on March 04, 2022, 12:34:08 PM
The Polish Football Association yesterday even proposed to introduce a special transfer period to allow players from Russia to move abroad immediately. If UEFA really allows this transfer period, there would certainly be an exodus of players from Russia. And the Russian clubs would probably not be able to prevent it, as they are exposed to extreme financial burdens with the sanctions.

Most Russian clubs (maybe all 100%) are deeply unprofitable. Now that the ruble is falling to unexplored depths, and the flow of currency into the country is halting, I am sure that soon the clubs will themselves terminate contracts with foreigners simply because they will not have the money to pay them the agreed salary. Therefore, one way or another, this exodus will take place.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: zaim7413 on March 04, 2022, 12:38:13 PM
FIFA and UEFA have no choice but to take a heavy and hard decision after a growing number of countries say they will not compete against Russia. Some will criticize, while the rest will praise it. It is clear who supports and who does not. The situation might be unacceptable for the good of football, but that is how things are working. At least the European Football Association and FIFA are all in agreement about banning Russian football teams and all their affiliated clubs. It isn't a problem to be Russian; it is an action to minimize the temper of the European countries.
FIFA and UEFA decisions do not only apply to the Russian national team, but also to the Russian club Spartak Moscow. After being banned FAFA and UEFA, the Russian national team was unable to feature for World Cup matches, including the playoff match on March 24, 2022. Spartak Moscow also cannot continue its work in the 2021-2022 Europa League. As a result of the ban, Spartak Moscow only focused on domestic competitions.
In addition to imposing a ban on the Russian (national team) and (club), UEFA also said it had terminated a cooperation with Gazprom which is a sponsor for European competitions, like the Champions League.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: gantez on March 04, 2022, 02:36:01 PM
The Polish Football Association yesterday even proposed to introduce a special transfer period to allow players from Russia to move abroad immediately. If UEFA really allows this transfer period, there would certainly be an exodus of players from Russia. And the Russian clubs would probably not be able to prevent it, as they are exposed to extreme financial burdens with the sanctions.

I don't think this kind of move will be possible with polish football association. A Russia footballer is already known as that and can not claim Polish citizen. Except where they are doing naturalization to become Polish and to that I don't know how that will be possible. But at this deadly hour, such move of naturalization will be looked differently and may not get approval.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: zidanw on March 04, 2022, 03:24:07 PM
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Yeah, you are right about that comment on my response, and I appreciate you calling that out. I agree with you, the regulations of FIFA is what could determine the fairness of this decision that has been made, and which should be also assessed if the suspension being made are in accordance to the existing regulations or not. Although this war is not something to be taken lightly, it does not also permit every event and matter should be involved in political conflicts, not unless public safety is at stake.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: DU18 on March 04, 2022, 03:47:06 PM
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Yeah, you are right about that comment on my response, and I appreciate you calling that out. I agree with you, the regulations of FIFA is what could determine the fairness of this decision that has been made, and which should be also assessed if the suspension being made are in accordance to the existing regulations or not. Although this war is not something to be taken lightly, it does not also permit every event and matter should be involved in political conflicts, not unless public safety is at stake.

Russian sports authorities have condemned the ban, because they think the decision of FIFA and UEFA is very unfair because the decision seems discriminatory and goes against international competition norms, I agree with what the Russian Sports committee said, because after all it feels unfair that sport is affected by in today political game, I think all sports athletes of the world certainly reject any military aggression by any country in the world.
I personally also think that FIFA and UEFA decision is an unfair decision at all, if they ban Russia, of course they should also ban Israel and America from participating in the Football competition.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Cling18 on March 04, 2022, 03:58:15 PM
It was in the news yesterday that FIFA and UEFA has together suspended Russian Football teams and clubs indefinitely.
It was said that all the teams that were supposed to play against Russia in their forth coming friendlies and world cup qualifiers vowed to boycott the match, so at the end, FIFA and UEFA had no choice but the suspend Russia from all international matches.


Russia in response to the suspension has come out to say that the suspension is discriminatory.


What do you guys think of this development? How will this affect the players and athletes as well as workers in/for the team, how about the forth coming world cup?
Russia had advanced to the second round of qualifiers and they were supposed to play against Poland on March 24, however due to the suspension not only they will be unable to play but it seems Poland is going to move automatically to the Final of Path B to dispute a ticket to the world cup, it is unfortunate that something like this is happening but I think we all knew it was coming, in the sport world Russia had been sanctioned several times already, and now with the invasion of Ukraine it seems many sport federations simply decided it was too much and took measures against Russia.

It's just so disappointing that even the football teams in Russia are suffering when in fact, they worked hard for their spot. It seems so unfair to them because it seems like they're being punished and discriminated against because of the government's conflict between Russia and Ukraine. Normal civilians are really suffering in so many ways.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: zidanw on March 04, 2022, 04:10:31 PM
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Yes, I can see that we have the same thoughts and stand regarding this matter, @DU18. It’s just saddening that how political conflicts cannot be prevented to rule and affect other matters, in this case, sports. I think that somehow there are biases going around with the made decisions, and I agree with @Cling18 that it is unfair because the Russian team have earned their spot because of their dedication to do so, and are no suffering because of political unrest.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: og kush420 on March 04, 2022, 04:26:48 PM
It was in the news yesterday that FIFA and UEFA has together suspended Russian Football teams and clubs indefinitely.
It was said that all the teams that were supposed to play against Russia in their forth coming friendlies and world cup qualifiers vowed to boycott the match, so at the end, FIFA and UEFA had no choice but the suspend Russia from all international matches.


Russia in response to the suspension has come out to say that the suspension is discriminatory.


What do you guys think of this development? How will this affect the players and athletes as well as workers in/for the team, how about the forth coming world cup?
Russia had advanced to the second round of qualifiers and they were supposed to play against Poland on March 24, however due to the suspension not only they will be unable to play but it seems Poland is going to move automatically to the Final of Path B to dispute a ticket to the world cup, it is unfortunate that something like this is happening but I think we all knew it was coming, in the sport world Russia had been sanctioned several times already, and now with the invasion of Ukraine it seems many sport federations simply decided it was too much and took measures against Russia.

It's just so disappointing that even the football teams in Russia are suffering when in fact, they worked hard for their spot. It seems so unfair to them because it seems like they're being punished and discriminated against because of the government's conflict between Russia and Ukraine. Normal civilians are really suffering in so many ways.
I strongly disagree - if we call the act of FIFA and UEFA a discriminatory act. What would you call the act of Russian government's invasion in Ukraine. A fun game? Where they will see people dying mercilessly? Sports is one of the ways to promote peace. For the acts like war and violence has no place in sports. I appreciate the decision of FIFA and UEFA. There will more be coming for Russia from around the world - the world will not take this easy and this is a fine step ahead.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: dothebeats on March 04, 2022, 04:39:09 PM
Sooner or later, people inside Russia will be forced to voice out their opinions against Putin's actions. It is not the Russian people's fault why the country they represent are being excluded and isolated from a lot of organizations and activities around the world, but they will always be the victims until their President stops the war. It is a big blow on the Russian football players to be left behind on lots of these events, but organizations like FIFA and UEFA have to do what they have to do.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: BALIK on March 04, 2022, 04:43:13 PM
It's just so disappointing that even the football teams in Russia are suffering when in fact, they worked hard for their spot. It seems so unfair to them because it seems like they're being punished and discriminated against because of the government's conflict between Russia and Ukraine. Normal civilians are really suffering in so many ways.

The Russian people are suffering because of Putin's terrible decision. The USA and EU have imposed many sanctions against them. This will make the life of the Russian people more difficult. The Russian currency has already depreciated. Moreover, the Russian people have not also expressed solidarity with the attack on Ukraine. In many Russian cities, ordinary people have protested against the attack.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: retreat on March 04, 2022, 06:58:17 PM
Finally, the Russian football federation or RFS appealed the sanctions that had been given by FIFA and UEFA against the Russian national team which was disqualified from the world cup play-off round and also Spartak Moscow who had to exit the last 16 of the UEFA Europe League early after being disqualified by UEFA. Strict steps were taken by the Russian football federation considering that there was no connection at all between the invasion and the war with Ukraine. FIFA and UEFA have criticized the political actions taken by some players and supporters when providing support for Palestine but currently UEFA and FIFA have quite different views with Russia invasion right now.
on the another side I see that the decision to ban the russian team from fifa is a bit unfair, it's true what the russian football federation said, the invasion by the putin government should not be a reason to be banned but I also realize that this step was taken by fifa to put pressure on putin. I still hope that the best way can be found because it is a pity if the Russian team gets banned from the world cup.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: ryzaadit on March 04, 2022, 07:58:24 PM
-snip-
I guess no.

The sport should not follow any kind of politic, while they already got economy sanction but we still ban their sport access ~LOL. I still remember while some football player using a word after the match "Pray for Palestine" and guess what.

FIFA responding should not using sport as politic.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Oneandpure on March 05, 2022, 03:45:05 AM
-snip-
I guess no.

The sport should not follow any kind of politic, while they already got economy sanction but we still ban their sport access ~LOL. I still remember while some football player using a word after the match "Pray for Palestine" and guess what.

FIFA responding should not using sport as politic.
But FIFA have final decision after banned Russia for participating on world cup play off round against with Poland, I think FIFA still not remember with how hundred thousand Palestine citizen victim after Israel invasion and punish almost several player when celebrate with support freedom to Palestine, but now have different think when Ukraine get invasion by Russian and FIFA mixing politic with football. I think have to stop with FIFA about justice punishment getting for every country make invasion and have to banned them on FIFA competition. Still have many countries like United State will get banned from FIFA after their invasion war to Iraq and many other countries as victim from US invasion war but FIFA keep silent without mixing between politic and football.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Odusko on March 05, 2022, 07:07:54 AM
-snip-
I guess no.

The sport should not follow any kind of politic, while they already got economy sanction but we still ban their sport access ~LOL. I still remember while some football player using a word after the match "Pray for Palestine" and guess what.

FIFA responding should not use sport as politic.
This FIFA involvement in political matters may further lead to more crisis as Vladimir Putin has announced that Russia will play in the 2022 FIFA world cup or there will not be the world cup at all, this speaks to further threats to global peace. The football tournament is aimed at unifying the world and promoting peace but getting involved in political war matters as sensitive as this will deter global peace.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Gozie51 on March 05, 2022, 08:34:10 AM

This FIFA involvement in political matters may further lead to more crisis as Vladimir Putin has announced that Russia will play in the 2022 FIFA world cup or there will not be the world cup at all, this speaks to further threats to global peace. The football tournament is aimed at unifying the world and promoting peace but getting involved in political war matters as sensitive as this will deter global peace.

How can we verify this information you have put out ? Because these are strong words capable of causing more confusion to the world. Any link to that announcement containing those words should be provided please so readers. We know Putin to be capable of causing more troubles as he has not given up yet despite the sanctions. Can we see the link .


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: iv4n on March 05, 2022, 08:51:34 AM

This FIFA involvement in political matters may further lead to more crisis as Vladimir Putin has announced that Russia will play in the 2022 FIFA world cup or there will not be the world cup at all, this speaks to further threats to global peace. The football tournament is aimed at unifying the world and promoting peace but getting involved in political war matters as sensitive as this will deter global peace.

How can we verify this information you have put out ? Because these are strong words capable of causing more confusion to the world. Any link to that announcement containing those words should be provided please so readers. We know Putin to be capable of causing more troubles as he has not given up yet despite the sanctions. Can we see the link .

This is impossible! I tried to find something about this and couldn't, it looks like this is just another lie in a row! I've been talking about it for days, this propaganda war is amazing! So much lies from all sides, so much false information is placed in all possible ways that a normal person can no longer recognize what is real and what is not!
Another way to portray a dictator in the worst possible light, a person who wants to ruin the World Cup, wow! Now let's all hate him, he's inhuman! Let's face it, I don't support Putin, I don't like politics and their games, and even less I like to read such nonsense that obviously only serves as a tool in war! This is a good example of how the sport is directly involved in politics and war! With fake news and provocations! And in an indirect way, all the rest of us who love and follow sports!


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: RILWAN on March 05, 2022, 12:25:27 PM
Western countries are eager to impose ban on Russia in whatsoever manner possible! This sports ban is just a part of it! There are obviously many countries who are not willing to play with Russia or keep any association with them at this moment. But do you think Russia deserves this?

If invading to Ukraine is the reason, US should have been banned from the world for invading Iraq and Afghanistan. Look at those countries now, they have completely collapsed due to the aggression from US which was initiated in the name of war against terrorism. Today's Russian attack on Ukraine is happening as NATO wanted to include Ukraine in their group despite not being eligible.

This is really unfair to Russia.
The decision not to include Russia in the World Cup is purely a political decision of America and its allies. even though we know that FIFA has always said that politics should not interfere in this football. Maybe this applies only to them, and in their favor because FIFA is under their control.
I feel for the citizens of Russia they never want war but are now the most hit by this war with lots of sanctions and bans in international support communities. The world football federation body may have hard it hard on Russia but then that is the bad side of war everybody loses. Let's hope things get better before the kick-off of the 2022 game.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Gozie51 on March 05, 2022, 12:45:47 PM

This FIFA involvement in political matters may further lead to more crisis as Vladimir Putin has announced that Russia will play in the 2022 FIFA world cup or there will not be the world cup at all, this speaks to further threats to global peace. The football tournament is aimed at unifying the world and promoting peace but getting involved in political war matters as sensitive as this will deter global peace.

How can we verify this information you have put out ? Because these are strong words capable of causing more confusion to the world. Any link to that announcement containing those words should be provided please so readers. We know Putin to be capable of causing more troubles as he has not given up yet despite the sanctions. Can we see the link .

This is impossible! I tried to find something about this and couldn't, it looks like this is just another lie in a row! I've been talking about it for days, this propaganda war is amazing! So much lies from all sides, so much false information is placed in all possible ways that a normal person can no longer recognize what is real and what is not!
Another way to portray a dictator in the worst possible light, a person who wants to ruin the World Cup, wow! Now let's all hate him, he's inhuman! Let's face it, I don't support Putin, I don't like politics and their games, and even less I like to read such nonsense that obviously only serves as a tool in war! This is a good example of how the sport is directly involved in politics and war! With fake news and provocations! And in an indirect way, all the rest of us who love and follow sports!

@ iv4n Yes you are right that there are lies in sports just like we have these allegation and accusation about Putin threat that Russia will forcefully play in the world cup, this is yet to be proved with the link I asked for. Likewise also fans of football teams especially make lies and hype their teams even in the face of glaring impossibility. They blindly support their teams with likes "because they are fans and they don't need to say the truth "  :o


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: naira on March 05, 2022, 01:17:52 PM
Is this so wide that the FIFA sector, which should be more objective, is no longer independent? As far as I know in sports whether this is really the right thing to do, especially in football, there shouldn't be sanctions like this. I know there will be many who will oppose what I say. Just want to see that this situation is a sanction that should also be applied to Israel if FIFA really wants to impose sanctions. You know the annexation there, right? Why doesn't FIFA give sanctions too? the answer is only one and let it mumble in your mind and think for a moment to ask the same question. Which is why, because has Israel been around for years?


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Odusko on March 05, 2022, 04:07:23 PM

This FIFA involvement in political matters may further lead to more crisis as Vladimir Putin has announced that Russia will play in the 2022 FIFA world cup or there will not be the world cup at all, this speaks to further threats to global peace. The football tournament is aimed at unifying the world and promoting peace but getting involved in political war matters as sensitive as this will deter global peace.

How can we verify this information you have put out ? Because these are strong words capable of causing more confusion to the world. Any link to that announcement containing those words should be provided please so readers. We know Putin to be capable of causing more troubles as he has not given up yet despite the sanctions. Can we see the link .
Sorry sorry for that but I hard in an interview, the statement was was made during the  interview with the Russian minister of defense, I can find the link but am very sure of the information. I will try to get my hands on the link and will share the link here to prove my point but my view is what we stand to lose in war is higher than any political power play or military might.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Gozie51 on March 05, 2022, 06:16:12 PM

This FIFA involvement in political matters may further lead to more crisis as Vladimir Putin has announced that Russia will play in the 2022 FIFA world cup or there will not be the world cup at all, this speaks to further threats to global peace. The football tournament is aimed at unifying the world and promoting peace but getting involved in political war matters as sensitive as this will deter global peace.

How can we verify this information you have put out ? Because these are strong words capable of causing more confusion to the world. Any link to that announcement containing those words should be provided please so readers. We know Putin to be capable of causing more troubles as he has not given up yet despite the sanctions. Can we see the link .
Sorry sorry for that but I hard in an interview, the statement was was made during the  interview with the Russian minister of defense, I can find the link but am very sure of the information. I will try to get my hands on the link and will share the link here to prove my point but my view is what we stand to lose in war is higher than any political power play or military might.

Well there was a strong word if that was actually said. The world leaders are really trying hard to manage the war (which Putin says is invasion). I hope the fight stops as talks are still going on but to no success yet. The third round of discussion will continue on Monday between Russia and Ukraine.
There is no gain war , even the Russian Army is losing personal, tanks, helicopters and fighter planes.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: _act_ on March 05, 2022, 06:37:43 PM
But FIFA have final decision after banned Russia for participating on world cup play off round against with Poland, I think FIFA still not remember with how hundred thousand Palestine citizen victim after Israel invasion and punish almost several player when celebrate with support freedom to Palestine, but now have different think when Ukraine get invasion by Russian and FIFA mixing politic with football.  politic and football.
I do not think this is sport mixing with politics, I do not see anything bad to sanction Russia, Russia invaded a peaceful country, killing innocent people. What could be more than massacre?  Nikita Mazepin which is a formula one driver has been scaked today and there should be more to come by sanctions. There is nothing bad for Russia to ceasefire but just want to take down Ukraine and turn it to a country it controls. I believe Russia has been expecting all these sanctions as a result of its action on Ukraine invasion. I do not support anyone or any country but the war should end which is one of the reason for sanctions and a way Russia will later not be able to fund the war.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: RILWAN on March 05, 2022, 07:11:52 PM
Russian want to add Ukraine to the list of pro-Russia countries as the invasion has been aimed at achieving that aim, I don't personally see anything wrong with FIFA sanction on Russia from the world football league even the premier league match have all aired in solidarity with Ukraine.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Alanaz on March 05, 2022, 07:24:37 PM
-snip-
I guess no.

The sport should not follow any kind of politic, while they already got economy sanction but we still ban their sport access ~LOL. I still remember while some football player using a word after the match "Pray for Palestine" and guess what.

FIFA responding should not using sport as politic.
But FIFA have final decision after banned Russia for participating on world cup play off round against with Poland, I think FIFA still not remember with how hundred thousand Palestine citizen victim after Israel invasion and punish almost several player when celebrate with support freedom to Palestine, but now have different think when Ukraine get invasion by Russian and FIFA mixing politic with football. I think have to stop with FIFA about justice punishment getting for every country make invasion and have to banned them on FIFA competition. Still have many countries like United State will get banned from FIFA after their invasion war to Iraq and many other countries as victim from US invasion war but FIFA keep silent without mixing between politic and football.
It is very difficult to distinguish things like this, the treatment is not really the same and now it seems like it seems to be giving a lesson to Russia not to do things that are very detrimental to some parties but with different treatment as you said of course this is one of the things that seems thick will be Political and side with a Party.
things like this can not be separated because it is very difficult to separate greed from brotherhood


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: ajochems on March 05, 2022, 07:32:38 PM

If you want my answer with emotions, my answer will be good decision. Because Russia stands on war was not changed yet.Most of us not get out from the corona impact and Corona news. What made Russian to fight and kill the people of Ukraine. Only the International idea person can give a clear explanation for this. After corona, many country was recovering only now, but this war news was unacceptable to many country peoples.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: mia_houston on March 05, 2022, 07:51:23 PM
Is this so wide that the FIFA sector, which should be more objective, is no longer independent? As far as I know in sports whether this is really the right thing to do, especially in football, there shouldn't be sanctions like this. I know there will be many who will oppose what I say. Just want to see that this situation is a sanction that should also be applied to Israel if FIFA really wants to impose sanctions. You know the annexation there, right? Why doesn't FIFA give sanctions too? the answer is only one and let it mumble in your mind and think for a moment to ask the same question. Which is why, because has Israel been around for years?

I strongly agree that sanctions are indeed necessary and should be given to teach a lesson to countries involved in war, but what the Russian Football Association has said in my opinion is also quite reasonable, because with the implementation of sanctions imposed on Russia, FIFA has violated the basic rights and also the principle of sport that should not be involved in politics, besides this, it is precisely now that FIFA has shown a discriminatory attitude by imposing sanctions on Russia and in fact they have not taken a stand on what Israel has done so far to Palestine, I think now this is precisely why people began to blaspheme and question the attitude of FIFA which seems to have double standards for applying sanctions to Russia.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Rruchi man on March 05, 2022, 08:34:27 PM

I do not think this is sport mixing with politics, I do not see anything bad to sanction Russia, Russia invaded a peaceful country, killing innocent people. What could be more than massacre?  
Don't just base your argument around Russia invading a peaceful country like they are the first country to invade another country, and in truth this is to show that Politics and political situations have an effect on sports. I'm also particularly concerned about the stigma that some of their athletes will he facing for just being Russian, i hope it doesn't drive any of them into taking their own lives.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: og kush420 on March 05, 2022, 08:37:48 PM
Is this so wide that the FIFA sector, which should be more objective, is no longer independent? As far as I know in sports whether this is really the right thing to do, especially in football, there shouldn't be sanctions like this. I know there will be many who will oppose what I say. Just want to see that this situation is a sanction that should also be applied to Israel if FIFA really wants to impose sanctions. You know the annexation there, right? Why doesn't FIFA give sanctions too? the answer is only one and let it mumble in your mind and think for a moment to ask the same question. Which is why, because has Israel been around for years?

I strongly agree that sanctions are indeed necessary and should be given to teach a lesson to countries involved in war, but what the Russian Football Association has said in my opinion is also quite reasonable, because with the implementation of sanctions imposed on Russia, FIFA has violated the basic rights and also the principle of sport that should not be involved in politics, besides this, it is precisely now that FIFA has shown a discriminatory attitude by imposing sanctions on Russia and in fact they have not taken a stand on what Israel has done so far to Palestine, I think now this is precisely why people began to blaspheme and question the attitude of FIFA which seems to have double standards for applying sanctions to Russia.
FIFA has done the right move. Sports is a medium to promote peace, whatsoever - the superpower have not right to stamped the weak country and then play happily and enjoy the game and be victorious. The world should learn the lesson the in modern days the war is not will one nation but it is with complete world. But the best interest of everyone concern is safety and security of the affected.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Rockstarguy on March 05, 2022, 08:50:59 PM
This is very terrible for innocent sport men just because of one person's decisions many are suffering it . This is even their source of income,  no more flow of money. The funniest thing about it is that the players are not in support of puttins action , maybe this is the way Russia can be punished for invading Ukraine.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: DoublerHunter on March 05, 2022, 09:23:08 PM
This is very terrible for innocent sport men just because of one person's decisions many are suffering it . This is even their source of income,  no more flow of money. The funniest thing about it is that the players are not in support of puttins action , maybe this is the way Russia can be punished for invading Ukraine.
^ I don't know how it works or how it will punish by the law and probably Putin deserves it to be punished.
Not only athletes here are affected, not only the gambling industry has been affected, all major international businesses that own by Russian investors was been now suffering, it may also be a threat to collapse their economy. Now, it suspended the Russian football team and I think they already accept their loss. I hope soon will be okay and back to normal.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: coolcoinz on March 05, 2022, 10:56:16 PM

I do not think this is sport mixing with politics, I do not see anything bad to sanction Russia, Russia invaded a peaceful country, killing innocent people. What could be more than massacre?  
Don't just base your argument around Russia invading a peaceful country like they are the first country to invade another country, and in truth this is to show that Politics and political situations have an effect on sports. I'm also particularly concerned about the stigma that some of their athletes will he facing for just being Russian, i hope it doesn't drive any of them into taking their own lives.

What about the stigma Ukrainian athletes will bear, like for instance the feeling of losing their whole family or losing a home. One one hand we could sympathize with Russian players and say that they're facing hard times, but in comparison we have football players in Ukraine who are literally being shot at and killed. What's worse?
The bans will be lifted, but you can't bring people back to life and wipe their heads of traumatic memories.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: blockman on March 05, 2022, 11:14:10 PM
Finally, the Russian football federation or RFS appealed the sanctions that had been given by FIFA and UEFA against the Russian national team which was disqualified from the world cup play-off round and also Spartak Moscow who had to exit the last 16 of the UEFA Europe League early after being disqualified by UEFA. Strict steps were taken by the Russian football federation considering that there was no connection at all between the invasion and the war with Ukraine. FIFA and UEFA have criticized the political actions taken by some players and supporters when providing support for Palestine but currently UEFA and FIFA have quite different views with Russia invasion right now.
I've been seeing that political stand when it comes to the other countries in the middle-east part of attacks. They have nothing to say with their stand towards those affected countries but they're too aggressive when it comes to Russia. Well, we all don't like the invasion and what Russia is doing but it is that they're quiet when it comes to those countries unlike what they're taking action right now. Sports is what makes different race unites and hopefully this division will make them unite again.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: gantez on March 06, 2022, 07:04:39 AM

The bans will be lifted, but you can't bring people back to life and wipe their heads of traumatic memories.

The effect of the war will be in the heart of Ukrainian mostly because they are losing heavily. They are losing apart from military and weapons, they are losing innocent civilians and families . This is going to be traumatic for them at the end of the war. Russia is mostly losing only personal in the battle field. This time is not the best for Europe.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: _act_ on March 06, 2022, 08:16:45 AM
Don't just base your argument around Russia invading a peaceful country like they are the first country to invade another country, and in truth this is to show that Politics and political situations have an effect on sports.
FiFA and UEFA have done nothing bad compared to what Russia has done after they have invaded Ukraine. Many civilians have died and Russia is not taking it easy at all than to take over Ukraine. Ukraine is suffering all because of Russia invasion, tell me what FIFA has done or what UEFA has done that is bad, Ukrainians are suffering, why should Russians too suffers?

I'm also particularly concerned about the stigma that some of their athletes will he facing for just being Russian, i hope it doesn't drive any of them into taking their own lives.
It is all caused by their president, their president should be balmmed, Russia should be segregated alone to itself but I know China will more benefit from this.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Oneandpure on March 06, 2022, 09:20:38 AM
Finally, the Russian football federation or RFS appealed the sanctions that had been given by FIFA and UEFA against the Russian national team which was disqualified from the world cup play-off round and also Spartak Moscow who had to exit the last 16 of the UEFA Europe League early after being disqualified by UEFA. Strict steps were taken by the Russian football federation considering that there was no connection at all between the invasion and the war with Ukraine. FIFA and UEFA have criticized the political actions taken by some players and supporters when providing support for Palestine but currently UEFA and FIFA have quite different views with Russia invasion right now.
I've been seeing that political stand when it comes to the other countries in the middle-east part of attacks. They have nothing to say with their stand towards those affected countries but they're too aggressive when it comes to Russia. Well, we all don't like the invasion and what Russia is doing but it is that they're quiet when it comes to those countries unlike what they're taking action right now. Sports is what makes different race unites and hopefully this division will make them unite again.
FIFA and UEFA looks most aggressive with Russia invasion and always give support with Ukraine by giving attending applause before match begin on all competition for this week. But almost forget how have the same ideas when other country war invasion like Palestine attack by Israel and almost player and fans who give support for Palestine freedom get punishment and looks different with Ukraine. I think agree never have the same thing between war and football exactly not all people agree with war invasion and the player just take care with football only and I think enough with punishment getting by Russia right now.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Fortify on March 06, 2022, 09:59:20 AM
It was in the news yesterday that FIFA and UEFA has together suspended Russian Football teams and clubs indefinitely.
It was said that all the teams that were supposed to play against Russia in their forth coming friendlies and world cup qualifiers vowed to boycott the match, so at the end, FIFA and UEFA had no choice but the suspend Russia from all international matches.

Russia in response to the suspension has come out to say that the suspension is discriminatory.

What do you guys think of this development? How will this affect the players and athletes as well as workers in/for the team, how about the forth coming world cup?

The suspension is meant to be discriminatory, that is the whole purpose of singling out this nation that has invaded and caused the biggest war in Europe since World War 2 ended - that's a bit of a dumbass response from the Russian government but that's no surprise. It's unfortunate that Russian footballers will suffer in their careers and they cannot even speak out against the war without being persecuted within Russia, along with all the auxiliary staff who will lose jobs - there are vast amounts of workers who will not be able to feed their families soon. This all pales into comparison with the suffering the Russian army is committing against the people of Ukraine however, so Russian's will get no sympathy here.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: W Jr. on March 06, 2022, 10:20:47 AM
The country that started this war is Russia. Of course, there would be sanctions in some way, but I don't think football teams played a role in this. I think they could have continued the tournament. However, if there were teams with statements that could defend the war, they could have been eliminated. I have a lot of Russian friends who do not approve of Putin's war decision.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Polkeins on March 06, 2022, 10:25:17 AM
Finally, the Russian football federation or RFS appealed the sanctions that had been given by FIFA and UEFA against the Russian national team which was disqualified from the world cup play-off round and also Spartak Moscow who had to exit the last 16 of the UEFA Europe League early after being disqualified by UEFA. Strict steps were taken by the Russian football federation considering that there was no connection at all between the invasion and the war with Ukraine. FIFA and UEFA have criticized the political actions taken by some players and supporters when providing support for Palestine but currently UEFA and FIFA have quite different views with Russia invasion right now.
I've been seeing that political stand when it comes to the other countries in the middle-east part of attacks. They have nothing to say with their stand towards those affected countries but they're too aggressive when it comes to Russia. Well, we all don't like the invasion and what Russia is doing but it is that they're quiet when it comes to those countries unlike what they're taking action right now. Sports is what makes different race unites and hopefully this division will make them unite again.
FIFA and UEFA looks most aggressive with Russia invasion and always give support with Ukraine by giving attending applause before match begin on all competition for this week. But almost forget how have the same ideas when other country war invasion like Palestine attack by Israel and almost player and fans who give support for Palestine freedom get punishment and looks different with Ukraine. I think agree never have the same thing between war and football exactly not all people agree with war invasion and the player just take care with football only and I think enough with punishment getting by Russia right now.
Well, Israel is a special topic. Israel is a very rich and influential state with serious foreheads and they can do anything, to bomb at least schools and kindergartens and nothing will be. Just because it is Israel. Even in the US, some celebrities protested against actions in the Gaza Strider, but smart people quickly explained to them about promotional contracts and who rules in Hollywood studios and situation will quickly calmed down. Russia has no such money, connections and a solid diaspora, therefore, Russia will be under such sanctions without political, financial and news lobbysts like Israel has in the US goverment .


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Slow death on March 06, 2022, 10:51:20 AM
FIFA must be consistent with regulations like this, if they don't want to include the names of countries attacking other countries because of political problems until a war occurs like Russia, then in the future they must do the same thing. It would be unfair if this was only done for Russia, considering that football should not be associated with politics. If I'm not mistaken, in the past when Israel and Palestine had political problems, FIFA did not take serious action against Israeli football. (CMIIW). So, if this is the first step from FIFA, and the same thing should be done in the future.

in this case where russia invaded a democratic country and without any justifiable reason, fifa had to take a tough stance and that shows that events like these they will punish, in the case of israel and palestine it is a war in which it becomes difficult for FIFA put the same hard measure. It is not possible for any sport to be separated from politics, governments are the ones who create public policies, laws and rules and sport organizations follow these laws, normal and rules. sport will always go hand in hand with politics

The country that started this war is Russia. Of course, there would be sanctions in some way, but I don't think football teams played a role in this. I think they could have continued the tournament. However, if there were teams with statements that could defend the war, they could have been eliminated. I have a lot of Russian friends who do not approve of Putin's war decision.

the point with this measure is to isolate russia from the rest of the world so that such actions do not happen again


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: alegotardo on March 06, 2022, 01:32:49 PM
What do you guys think of this development? How will this affect the players and athletes as well as workers in/for the team, how about the forth coming world cup?

I think sanctions like this are ridiculous!

FIFA's attitude, for example, to prevent games in Russian territory or to raise the flag and sing its anthem is a totally valid attitude, I'm sure the Russian players themselves are ashamed of the attitudes of their rulers.

However, forbidding these people to play, when they aren't at fault, is an exaggeration. There isn't point in penalizing them.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: macson on March 06, 2022, 01:47:08 PM
FIFA and UEFA looks most aggressive with Russia invasion and always give support with Ukraine by giving attending applause before match begin on all competition for this week. But almost forget how have the same ideas when other country war invasion like Palestine attack by Israel and almost player and fans who give support for Palestine freedom get punishment and looks different with Ukraine. I think agree never have the same thing between war and football exactly not all people agree with war invasion and the player just take care with football only and I think enough with punishment getting by Russia right now.
decisions taken by FIFA (Russia team banned from world cup) very precise, even though the players are innocent but Russian football is the one that the Russian government pays the most attention to.  war between the two countries must end soon so that these sanctions are effective, but if successful then sanctions like this must also be tried against other countries that are currently at war.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: YOSHIE on March 06, 2022, 02:27:37 PM
What do you guys think of this development? How will this affect the players and athletes as well as workers in/for the team, how about the forth coming world cup?
News about FIFA and UEFA taking decisions and actions against Russia, especially in the field of football, has been controversial and has gone viral in the sports media, but there are interesting things that Russia did for the national team, as stated: Russia appeals to CAS the expulsion of its national team from the World Cup by FIFA and UEFA (https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.marca.com/en/world-cup/2022/03/04/6221536246163fc4538b45eb.html), however I'm not sure if they work or not, Russia seems undaunted by the actions of FIFA and UEFA.

What is clear, during the turmoil between Russia and Ukraine, especially in the field of sports and gambling, many experienced losses and failures, I just hope this war ends soon and the world of sports can return to normal as before.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: kaya11 on March 06, 2022, 02:28:19 PM
What do you guys think of this development? How will this affect the players and athletes as well as workers in/for the team, how about the forth coming world cup?

I think sanctions like this are ridiculous!

FIFA's attitude, for example, to prevent games in Russian territory or to raise the flag and sing its anthem is a totally valid attitude, I'm sure the Russian players themselves are ashamed of the attitudes of their rulers.

However, forbidding these people to play, when they aren't at fault, is an exaggeration. There isn't point in penalizing them.

These people who put sanctions on Russian football players have double standards. Their such ignorant and pathetic losers. How would they feel if their players are banned too from playing, they've also done terrible things more than what Putin did. They've killed millions of people around the globe and their justification on invasion are baseless and all lies. They get away with these lies and the world is blind. Now they do this because the one aggress was one of their allies, what a hypocrite they are. I guess justice is only available to them and not to the other human in the world.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Razmirraz on March 06, 2022, 04:09:01 PM
What do you guys think of this development? How will this affect the players and athletes as well as workers in/for the team, how about the forth coming world cup?
News about FIFA and UEFA taking decisions and actions against Russia, especially in the field of football, has been controversial and has gone viral in the sports media, but there are interesting things that Russia did for the national team, as stated: Russia appeals to CAS the expulsion of its national team from the World Cup by FIFA and UEFA (https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.marca.com/en/world-cup/2022/03/04/6221536246163fc4538b45eb.html), however I'm not sure if they work or not, Russia seems undaunted by the actions of FIFA and UEFA.

What is clear, during the turmoil between Russia and Ukraine, especially in the field of sports and gambling, many experienced losses and failures, I just hope this war ends soon and the world of sports can return to normal as before.
The Russian Football Union (RFU) immediately acted after being sanctioned by FIFA (the highest authority in a world football) and UEFA (as the parent a football federation in Europe). Fifa and Uefa's decision to suspend the Russian national team from competing in the sport of a football is a form of a criticism of Russia invasion of Ukraine.
The act of Russia invasion of Ukraine was wrong, so it was criticized by various countries.
However, the decisions of Fifa and Uefa can be detrimental to athletes, especially in a football branch that is struggling in the 2022 World Cup playoffs, and Spartak Moscow is also a victim because they are banned from continuing their struggle in the Europa League.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Alanaz on March 06, 2022, 06:54:38 PM
The country that started this war is Russia. Of course, there would be sanctions in some way, but I don't think football teams played a role in this. I think they could have continued the tournament. However, if there were teams with statements that could defend the war, they could have been eliminated. I have a lot of Russian friends who do not approve of Putin's war decision.
But on the other hand, isn't this something that is unfair in terms of sportsmanship? What I mean is that when it comes to restricting Russian athletes, doesn't this still apply to Ukraine because of course both sides at war even if Russia started the Invasion cannot be justified but with this kind of thing Ukraine also did nothing wrong?
Example. When there are 2 soccer players fighting on the field, of course, the referee will give a card, either yellow or red, to two players and this of course can still apply to both parties, not just one.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: fzkto on March 06, 2022, 08:10:44 PM
This is the wildest thing I have ever seen. Even during the First World War, the warring sides played a football match, stopping the confrontation for one day. I can understand sanctions relating to the aggressor country's economy, I can understand disconnection from SWIFT, but denying the ability to participate in sporting events is beyond comprehension. Yes, Spartak Moscow is a Russian club, but more than half of its squad is made up of foreigners. This is nonsense.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: blockman on March 06, 2022, 09:43:38 PM
Finally, the Russian football federation or RFS appealed the sanctions that had been given by FIFA and UEFA against the Russian national team which was disqualified from the world cup play-off round and also Spartak Moscow who had to exit the last 16 of the UEFA Europe League early after being disqualified by UEFA. Strict steps were taken by the Russian football federation considering that there was no connection at all between the invasion and the war with Ukraine. FIFA and UEFA have criticized the political actions taken by some players and supporters when providing support for Palestine but currently UEFA and FIFA have quite different views with Russia invasion right now.
I've been seeing that political stand when it comes to the other countries in the middle-east part of attacks. They have nothing to say with their stand towards those affected countries but they're too aggressive when it comes to Russia. Well, we all don't like the invasion and what Russia is doing but it is that they're quiet when it comes to those countries unlike what they're taking action right now. Sports is what makes different race unites and hopefully this division will make them unite again.
FIFA and UEFA looks most aggressive with Russia invasion and always give support with Ukraine by giving attending applause before match begin on all competition for this week. But almost forget how have the same ideas when other country war invasion like Palestine attack by Israel and almost player and fans who give support for Palestine freedom get punishment and looks different with Ukraine. I think agree never have the same thing between war and football exactly not all people agree with war invasion and the player just take care with football only and I think enough with punishment getting by Russia right now.
We compare that and we'll just realize how sad it is for the poorer countries that were also invaded by their neighboring countries. With that belief and consideration.
We'll really see a huge difference if it's a favorable country and likely a "decent" to them. There's race different from all over the world and with these nonprofit organizations, they also have their bias although right now we're all with the same thought of defending and sympathizing with Ukraine.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: FanEagle on March 06, 2022, 09:45:03 PM
FIFA and UEFA looks most aggressive with Russia invasion and always give support with Ukraine by giving attending applause before match begin on all competition for this week. But almost forget how have the same ideas when other country war invasion like Palestine attack by Israel and almost player and fans who give support for Palestine freedom get punishment and looks different with Ukraine. I think agree never have the same thing between war and football exactly not all people agree with war invasion and the player just take care with football only and I think enough with punishment getting by Russia right now.
I read an article about the situation just recently, and it said it is about threat level and not about war. Basically, it means that if there is a war in Iraq today, or Syria, or Egypt or Yemen, or Saudi Arabia etc etc, those all look like there is a situation that would conflict them inside and not the world. How could Europe be effected by a war in Saudi Arabia? They have been killing Yemeni people for a while and it doesn't impact Europe, or china has been killing many people and attacking a lot and it doesn't impact them.

However, Russia attacking Ukraine is right there, it is literally right their next door and it does impact them as well, it's happening on their border. Which is why they are this aggressive, it's about relative scale on how much impact it has on Europe.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Silberman on March 06, 2022, 09:56:35 PM
Russia had advanced to the second round of qualifiers and they were supposed to play against Poland on March 24, however due to the suspension not only they will be unable to play but it seems Poland is going to move automatically to the Final of Path B to dispute a ticket to the world cup, it is unfortunate that something like this is happening but I think we all knew it was coming, in the sport world Russia had been sanctioned several times already, and now with the invasion of Ukraine it seems many sport federations simply decided it was too much and took measures against Russia.
Earlier Poland announced that it won't play against Russia for the invasion it has done on Ukraine. By the time it seemed like an easy go for Russia to enter the final of B. Now the official announcement have made Poland get into the final. Russia shouldn't have done this. To build a nation it requires years and years. Now the sufferings were to the citizens, think of this players. With big dreams they might've given the best, but in the middle everything got vanished. Then to play the same series, they don't know when this gonna happen.
I am sorry for those players since they are in the middle of all of this and it is not their fault, at least when it came to the scandals of the Russian delegation at the Olympics it was the sport federation that was guilty of all of the wrongdoings they were accused of, but in this case the soccer federation of Russia and their players have nothing to do with the war at Ukraine, however as soon as I saw that the war at Ukraine finally happened I think we all knew something like this was bound to happen.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: goldkingcoiner on March 06, 2022, 10:05:57 PM
You can say whatever you want, and I will never be on the side of evil, however this is not the way to go. What is the goal of such sanctions? Will Russia have less tanks now? Less motivation? Less money? What is the point of banning sports teams that have nothing to do with whats going on in the world of geopolitical events?

Are the Russians everywhere in the world supposed to hang their heads in shame and not say a word against their bank accounts being frozen, despite having nothing to do with Russia, while living in a foreign country?

At this point, all the Russian hatred is becoming a popular social fad, and everyone is jumping on the bandwagon. The most disgusting examples are celebrities who pretend to care about Ukraine but find a way to make it about themselves.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Renampun on March 06, 2022, 10:06:19 PM
This is the wildest thing I have ever seen. Even during the First World War, the warring sides played a football match, stopping the confrontation for one day. I can understand sanctions relating to the aggressor country's economy, I can understand disconnection from SWIFT, but denying the ability to participate in sporting events is beyond comprehension. Yes, Spartak Moscow is a Russian club, but more than half of its squad is made up of foreigners. This is nonsense.
I am also quite concerned about the decision of FIFA and UEFA this time...

We are all aware that in this world the war is not only Ukraine and Russia, but also Yemen and Saudi or Palestine with Israel but why are sanctions related to football only imposed on Russia. I respect the decision of fifa and uefa but don't see this sanction as fair, football institutions should not interfere too much in politics.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Scripture on March 06, 2022, 10:23:11 PM
This is the wildest thing I have ever seen. Even during the First World War, the warring sides played a football match, stopping the confrontation for one day. I can understand sanctions relating to the aggressor country's economy, I can understand disconnection from SWIFT, but denying the ability to participate in sporting events is beyond comprehension. Yes, Spartak Moscow is a Russian club, but more than half of its squad is made up of foreigners. This is nonsense.
I am also quite concerned about the decision of FIFA and UEFA this time...

We are all aware that in this world the war is not only Ukraine and Russia, but also Yemen and Saudi or Palestine with Israel but why are sanctions related to football only imposed on Russia. I respect the decision of fifa and uefa but don't see this sanction as fair, football institutions should not interfere too much in politics.
Because Russia is a big threat to the world, and those countries are preventing the world war 3 which they can’t take easily against Russia, this is why there’s a huge pressure against them while the other conflict with other countries is not their focus at all. Sports should not interfere with politics, imagine the sacrifices of the athletes and they are the one to suffer because of their own government, not a fair if you’re a Russian athletes.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: goaldigger on March 06, 2022, 10:29:01 PM
This is the wildest thing I have ever seen. Even during the First World War, the warring sides played a football match, stopping the confrontation for one day. I can understand sanctions relating to the aggressor country's economy, I can understand disconnection from SWIFT, but denying the ability to participate in sporting events is beyond comprehension. Yes, Spartak Moscow is a Russian club, but more than half of its squad is made up of foreigners. This is nonsense.
There’s too much politics here, they believe imposing such restrictions againts private individual or athletes can force Russia to step out of Ukraine, I doubt on this one because those are the collateral damage only and it seems like Russian government their focus is not their athletes at the moment.

This is not the only sporting events that banned Russia from playing, this is really a nonsense decision but Russian athletes have to deal with it, they are just an individual and they are not the one who started the war yet people throw hates to them. Investors for the sports will surely think if investing is still worth it, this restrictions is a proof that centralized system is not good for investors.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Yogee on March 06, 2022, 10:39:23 PM
I'm not surprised with the decision since the talking heads of these organizations are you know what but I still do not agree. I would undertand if they just banned games to be played in Russia but not ban the team from playing sports.

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I wonder... why didn't FIFA ban the US when they were invading Iraq? (for nothing btw) Nobody was complaining back then when the US soldiers were bombing Baghdad and hanging Saddam Hussein live on TV. Suddenly everybody lost their shit when Russia is doing the same thing. I am not saying Russia is right to invade Ukraine. However, the reaction they are getting from the west is simply showing how two-faced the west really is.

The US nuked Japan ffs. NUKED. Nobody cared.
Yup! No further comment needed.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Polkeins on March 07, 2022, 09:05:05 AM
This is the wildest thing I have ever seen. Even during the First World War, the warring sides played a football match, stopping the confrontation for one day. I can understand sanctions relating to the aggressor country's economy, I can understand disconnection from SWIFT, but denying the ability to participate in sporting events is beyond comprehension. Yes, Spartak Moscow is a Russian club, but more than half of its squad is made up of foreigners. This is nonsense.

In the 1914, more than 100 ago on the First World War, sport has not been so politicized like in our time.
At that time, 100 years ago, sports really was something of an "outlet" for many ordinary people, especially  for those who tired of the world war, people was depressed and frustrated cause they did not know war like first world war until that time.
Now sport is almost indistinguishable from politics. The same functionaries, the same big money. Now all decisions are made taking into account the policy.
In general, it was correctly noticed here that neither Saudi Arabia, nor Iraq, nor Iran, nor Yemen were subjected to such sanctions. But here is other case.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Tumanggor on March 07, 2022, 10:13:36 AM
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In the 1914, more than 100 ago on the First World War, sport has not been so politicized like in our time.
At that time, 100 years ago, sports really was something of an "outlet" for many ordinary people, especially  for those who tired of the world war, people was depressed and frustrated cause they did not know war like first world war until that time.
Now sport is almost indistinguishable from politics. The same functionaries, the same big money. Now all decisions are made taking into account the policy.
In general, it was correctly noticed here that neither Saudi Arabia, nor Iraq, nor Iran, nor Yemen were subjected to such sanctions. But here is other case.
quite sad IMO, as you said that sport in world war 1 was used as an outlet for those who are tired and bored with war but now it is used as a political tool

I know this is an attempt to stop the war but I agree with others that it is definitely not effective. Until now hundreds of thousands of Russian citizens continue to hold relentless demonstrations to urge the war to be stopped

Football has become one of the sports loved by Russian citizens, they are victims, but they are the ones who have to suffer from Putin's actions


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Polkeins on March 07, 2022, 01:40:01 PM
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In the 1914, more than 100 ago on the First World War, sport has not been so politicized like in our time.
At that time, 100 years ago, sports really was something of an "outlet" for many ordinary people, especially  for those who tired of the world war, people was depressed and frustrated cause they did not know war like first world war until that time.
Now sport is almost indistinguishable from politics. The same functionaries, the same big money. Now all decisions are made taking into account the policy.
In general, it was correctly noticed here that neither Saudi Arabia, nor Iraq, nor Iran, nor Yemen were subjected to such sanctions. But here is other case.
quite sad IMO, as you said that sport in world war 1 was used as an outlet for those who are tired and bored with war but now it is used as a political tool

I know this is an attempt to stop the war but I agree with others that it is definitely not effective. Until now hundreds of thousands of Russian citizens continue to hold relentless demonstrations to urge the war to be stopped

Football has become one of the sports loved by Russian citizens, they are victims, but they are the ones who have to suffer from Putin's actions
I would add that all ordinary people suffer in this war. Ordinary, not oligarchs and not billionaires, they will pay for everything. For example, the same ordinary people in Europe will pay a "military" price for light, gas and heating, although they also have nothing to do with it. Ukraine and Russia supplied a huge amount of grain to the Middle East, what will happen to the prices of bread now? Last time, the Arab Spring began with the grain riots.
Sport was just the beginning. Now bans are coming from all sides every day. In fact, Russian clubs will not be able to physically play in Europe. Flights are blocked, visas still need to be obtained.
In general, this time politics intervened in the sport again. And this time openly and explicitly, without even being shy. Without trial and investigation, they just broke all their plans for innocent people.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: romero121 on March 07, 2022, 02:32:43 PM
This is the wildest thing I have ever seen. Even during the First World War, the warring sides played a football match, stopping the confrontation for one day. I can understand sanctions relating to the aggressor country's economy, I can understand disconnection from SWIFT, but denying the ability to participate in sporting events is beyond comprehension. Yes, Spartak Moscow is a Russian club, but more than half of its squad is made up of foreigners. This is nonsense.

In general, it was correctly noticed here that neither Saudi Arabia, nor Iraq, nor Iran, nor Yemen were subjected to such sanctions. But here is other case.
The reason behind every country have got different reasons. The ongoing war decision by Russia over Ukraine seems to be an unwanted war. Even after contempt from several countries and organisations around the globe Russia stood on its decision. Sports is part of the government and that's why sporting organization have restricted Russia. Maybe this will have its contribution in stopping the war.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Polkeins on March 07, 2022, 02:44:00 PM
This is the wildest thing I have ever seen. Even during the First World War, the warring sides played a football match, stopping the confrontation for one day. I can understand sanctions relating to the aggressor country's economy, I can understand disconnection from SWIFT, but denying the ability to participate in sporting events is beyond comprehension. Yes, Spartak Moscow is a Russian club, but more than half of its squad is made up of foreigners. This is nonsense.

In general, it was correctly noticed here that neither Saudi Arabia, nor Iraq, nor Iran, nor Yemen were subjected to such sanctions. But here is other case.
The reason behind every country have got different reasons. The ongoing war decision by Russia over Ukraine seems to be an unwanted war. Even after contempt from several countries and organisations around the globe Russia stood on its decision. Sports is part of the government and that's why sporting organization have restricted Russia. Maybe this will have its contribution in stopping the war.
Well, I think the main reason is the fact that everything is happening in Europe, and not in the Middle East or Africa. All this is painfully perceived by the elite of Europe, which in general manages almost all sports associations. The ban on the participation of Russian teams will not bring any contribution, because those who made decisions do not play football. They really don't care about any sports games.
By and large, they don't care. This is pure politics, when they try to influence the elite in Russia through ordinary people, but it is unlikely that it will work.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: mm2543363580 on March 07, 2022, 03:07:27 PM
This is the wildest thing I have ever seen. Even during the First World War, the warring sides played a football match, stopping the confrontation for one day. I can understand sanctions relating to the aggressor country's economy, I can understand disconnection from SWIFT, but denying the ability to participate in sporting events is beyond comprehension. Yes, Spartak Moscow is a Russian club, but more than half of its squad is made up of foreigners. This is nonsense.

In general, it was correctly noticed here that neither Saudi Arabia, nor Iraq, nor Iran, nor Yemen were subjected to such sanctions. But here is other case.
The reason behind every country have got different reasons. The ongoing war decision by Russia over Ukraine seems to be an unwanted war. Even after contempt from several countries and organisations around the globe Russia stood on its decision. Sports is part of the government and that's why sporting organization have restricted Russia. Maybe this will have its contribution in stopping the war.
Well, I think the main reason is the fact that everything is happening in Europe, and not in the Middle East or Africa. All this is painfully perceived by the elite of Europe, which in general manages almost all sports associations. The ban on the participation of Russian teams will not bring any contribution, because those who made decisions do not play football. They really don't care about any sports games.
By and large, they don't care. This is pure politics, when they try to influence the elite in Russia through ordinary people, but it is unlikely that it will work.
Either its politics or sports. What is right is right and what is wrong is wrong. super power has been killing the weak countries for their sport. Have you ever read the line As flies to wanton boys are we to the gods; They kill us for their sport. Just those line comes to my mind when I hear how the big countires are killing the innocent for their sport. Thinking they have authority to do anything.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: usekevin on March 07, 2022, 05:40:16 PM
This is the wildest thing I have ever seen. Even during the First World War, the warring sides played a football match, stopping the confrontation for one day. I can understand sanctions relating to the aggressor country's economy, I can understand disconnection from SWIFT, but denying the ability to participate in sporting events is beyond comprehension. Yes, Spartak Moscow is a Russian club, but more than half of its squad is made up of foreigners. This is nonsense.

In general, it was correctly noticed here that neither Saudi Arabia, nor Iraq, nor Iran, nor Yemen were subjected to such sanctions. But here is other case.
The reason behind every country have got different reasons. The ongoing war decision by Russia over Ukraine seems to be an unwanted war. Even after contempt from several countries and organisations around the globe Russia stood on its decision. Sports is part of the government and that's why sporting organization have restricted Russia. Maybe this will have its contribution in stopping the war.
Well, I think the main reason is the fact that everything is happening in Europe, and not in the Middle East or Africa. All this is painfully perceived by the elite of Europe, which in general manages almost all sports associations. The ban on the participation of Russian teams will not bring any contribution, because those who made decisions do not play football. They really don't care about any sports games.
By and large, they don't care. This is pure politics, when they try to influence the elite in Russia through ordinary people, but it is unlikely that it will work.
Either its politics or sports. What is right is right and what is wrong is wrong. super power has been killing the weak countries for their sport. Have you ever read the line As flies to wanton boys are we to the gods; They kill us for their sport. Just those line comes to my mind when I hear how the big countires are killing the innocent for their sport. Thinking they have authority to do anything.

You had a valid points.Now Russian Putin acting like a Old Hitler.The comparison may be more hard.But the super power Russia crushing the Small country Ukraine. Which was not a logic one.All other country involved in this and make the Russia to end the war with treaty.But I don't think, Russia targeting Ukraine for Sports. If you said so, now Russia only banned from all the sports and Club. Where the Ukraine was banned from such sports.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Fortify on March 07, 2022, 08:31:12 PM
It was in the news yesterday that FIFA and UEFA has together suspended Russian Football teams and clubs indefinitely.
It was said that all the teams that were supposed to play against Russia in their forth coming friendlies and world cup qualifiers vowed to boycott the match, so at the end, FIFA and UEFA had no choice but the suspend Russia from all international matches.

Russia in response to the suspension has come out to say that the suspension is discriminatory.

What do you guys think of this development? How will this affect the players and athletes as well as workers in/for the team, how about the forth coming world cup?

It seems like a fair reprisal for the Russian invasion. The footballers had huge wages before this crisis so if they were sensible with their money you shouldn't need to feel sorry for them - they earn many times what the average person might get paid in their whole lifetime. It's the supporting staff who you should feel bad for, as they will probably get fired pretty soon as budgets dry up and there is no funds to pay for extras. It's only the very biggest clubs that will likely be able to survive at a professional level and the whole Russian economy will be going through turmoil right now. Football is not the only thing affected, we see similar bans on Judo, Ice Skating, Olympics, Formula 1 and the list seems to be growing every day.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: batang_bitcoin on March 07, 2022, 09:31:36 PM
The reason behind every country have got different reasons. The ongoing war decision by Russia over Ukraine seems to be an unwanted war. Even after contempt from several countries and organisations around the globe Russia stood on its decision. Sports is part of the government and that's why sporting organization have restricted Russia. Maybe this will have its contribution in stopping the war.
All of those sanctions including the ones related to sports didn't contributed to stop Russia but they've contributed much to make their economy down.
But as they stand on what they're fighting for, they look like they're not going to stop anytime from now because they're firm with what they believe. I mean their leader is firm from what he thinks is right, Putin think he's right of what he's fighting for. Let's say that he is but he's ignoring the fact that many innocent people are also affected by his actions.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: crzy on March 07, 2022, 09:37:24 PM
The reason behind every country have got different reasons. The ongoing war decision by Russia over Ukraine seems to be an unwanted war. Even after contempt from several countries and organisations around the globe Russia stood on its decision. Sports is part of the government and that's why sporting organization have restricted Russia. Maybe this will have its contribution in stopping the war.
All of those sanctions including the ones related to sports didn't contributed to stop Russia but they've contributed much to make their economy down.
But as they stand on what they're fighting for, they look like they're not going to stop anytime from now because they're firm with what they believe. I mean their leader is firm from what he thinks is right, Putin think he's right of what he's fighting for. Let's say that he is but he's ignoring the fact that many innocent people are also affected by his actions.

The economy of Russia will soon collapse because of this sanctions though its sad because sports are being dragged into this kind of politics, I feel sorry to those athletes who spend their life for the sports. Well the only one to blame here are the Russian government and ordinary people have to deal with this. Russia is not giving up, they still threatening other countries and looks like he is willing to go all out on this war.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: batang_bitcoin on March 07, 2022, 10:35:46 PM
The reason behind every country have got different reasons. The ongoing war decision by Russia over Ukraine seems to be an unwanted war. Even after contempt from several countries and organisations around the globe Russia stood on its decision. Sports is part of the government and that's why sporting organization have restricted Russia. Maybe this will have its contribution in stopping the war.
All of those sanctions including the ones related to sports didn't contributed to stop Russia but they've contributed much to make their economy down.
But as they stand on what they're fighting for, they look like they're not going to stop anytime from now because they're firm with what they believe. I mean their leader is firm from what he thinks is right, Putin think he's right of what he's fighting for. Let's say that he is but he's ignoring the fact that many innocent people are also affected by his actions.

The economy of Russia will soon collapse because of this sanctions though its sad because sports are being dragged into this kind of politics, I feel sorry to those athletes who spend their life for the sports. Well the only one to blame here are the Russian government and ordinary people have to deal with this. Russia is not giving up, they still threatening other countries and looks like he is willing to go all out on this war.
Yeah, it's sad that they're in lining it with their political stand but it's all about war and that's too much already. There's no problem if it's just a normal politics that's happening inside Russia.
But, it has included and destroyed a lot of facilities, buildings and lives inside Ukraine and that's why they're making this stand. Although in generalizing Russians, not all of them are agreeing with this war.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Mahanton on March 07, 2022, 11:58:47 PM
The reason behind every country have got different reasons. The ongoing war decision by Russia over Ukraine seems to be an unwanted war. Even after contempt from several countries and organisations around the globe Russia stood on its decision. Sports is part of the government and that's why sporting organization have restricted Russia. Maybe this will have its contribution in stopping the war.
All of those sanctions including the ones related to sports didn't contributed to stop Russia but they've contributed much to make their economy down.
But as they stand on what they're fighting for, they look like they're not going to stop anytime from now because they're firm with what they believe. I mean their leader is firm from what he thinks is right, Putin think he's right of what he's fighting for. Let's say that he is but he's ignoring the fact that many innocent people are also affected by his actions.

The economy of Russia will soon collapse because of this sanctions though its sad because sports are being dragged into this kind of politics, I feel sorry to those athletes who spend their life for the sports. Well the only one to blame here are the Russian government and ordinary people have to deal with this. Russia is not giving up, they still threatening other countries and looks like he is willing to go all out on this war.
Yeah, it's sad that they're in lining it with their political stand but it's all about war and that's too much already. There's no problem if it's just a normal politics that's happening inside Russia.
But, it has included and destroyed a lot of facilities, buildings and lives inside Ukraine and that's why they're making this stand. Although in generalizing Russians, not all of them are agreeing with this war.
Being russian doesnt mean that you would always agree on what your government had been doing specially into this war on which lots had been disagreeing for this stuff and now that they are facing
lots of sanctions then it is really affecting their lives at the moment and just speaking for wasted human lives then this is something not everybody would really agree upon.
Almost all of industries would really be giving out the same decisions on this current condition.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: TopT3ns on March 08, 2022, 06:03:55 AM
The reason behind every country have got different reasons. The ongoing war decision by Russia over Ukraine seems to be an unwanted war. Even after contempt from several countries and organisations around the globe Russia stood on its decision. Sports is part of the government and that's why sporting organization have restricted Russia. Maybe this will have its contribution in stopping the war.
All of those sanctions including the ones related to sports didn't contributed to stop Russia but they've contributed much to make their economy down.
But as they stand on what they're fighting for, they look like they're not going to stop anytime from now because they're firm with what they believe. I mean their leader is firm from what he thinks is right, Putin think he's right of what he's fighting for. Let's say that he is but he's ignoring the fact that many innocent people are also affected by his actions.

After many time suspended Russian Football team exactly can't make Russia stop war invasion to Ukraine and exactly Putin have ask t FIFA and UEFA never mixing between war or politic with football. Not any way for claiming true with war invasion but I disagree with FIFA and UEFA have been suspended Russian Football teams because they not talk and promoting war invasion to Ukraine, disappointed for Russian national country because one step closer for passing to world cup on Qatar and now play on play off round against with Poland, but this match looks canceled after FIFA suspended Russian Football teams.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: STT on March 08, 2022, 07:29:18 AM
Russia had advanced to the second round of qualifiers and they were supposed to play against Poland on March 24,

It wouldn't be sensible to have Russia play vs Poland with current events occurring.  Will they exclude all fans from the match and all possibility of violence off the pitch, its too much of an obvious fight that will occur between people drinking with high tensions ongoing.    Its obviously a failure but its better to exclude Russia until they have stopped their invasion, destruction and killing of random people in a sovereign nation, in this case its a neighbor of the nation they will play and they have bombed just a few miles away from Poland.
  Sometimes news and events will preclude the possibility of sport, nothing to celebrate about it but it couldnt be any other way imo


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: batang_bitcoin on March 08, 2022, 07:56:04 AM
Yeah, it's sad that they're in lining it with their political stand but it's all about war and that's too much already. There's no problem if it's just a normal politics that's happening inside Russia.
But, it has included and destroyed a lot of facilities, buildings and lives inside Ukraine and that's why they're making this stand. Although in generalizing Russians, not all of them are agreeing with this war.
Being russian doesnt mean that you would always agree on what your government had been doing specially into this war on which lots had been disagreeing for this stuff and now that they are facing
lots of sanctions then it is really affecting their lives at the moment and just speaking for wasted human lives then this is something not everybody would really agree upon.
Almost all of industries would really be giving out the same decisions on this current condition.
It's the same for other race. The government and its leader doing its thing while many of its constituents are disagreeing with what they're seeing.
We're all for peace and we can't do anything that much with it because we're just citizens that are following orders of the government and we can feel the Russian peace keeping people. Whether it's for the sports, football and any other sporting events, they all want peace but they're divided because of what the government is being done to Ukraine and its people.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: tyz on March 08, 2022, 09:13:51 AM
The economy of Russia will soon collapse because of this sanctions though its sad because sports are being dragged into this kind of politics, I feel sorry to those athletes who spend their life for the sports. Well the only one to blame here are the Russian government and ordinary people have to deal with this. Russia is not giving up, they still threatening other countries and looks like he is willing to go all out on this war.

Sport is part of the system and also of propaganda, so it is quite understandable when these measures are taken. The very fact that China should have asked Russia to carry out the attack after the Winter Olympics shows how important sport is for the image of a country.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Oasisman on March 08, 2022, 11:12:17 AM
Russia had advanced to the second round of qualifiers and they were supposed to play against Poland on March 24,

It wouldn't be sensible to have Russia play vs Poland with current events occurring.  Will they exclude all fans from the match and all possibility of violence off the pitch, its too much of an obvious fight that will occur between people drinking with high tensions ongoing.    Its obviously a failure but its better to exclude Russia until they have stopped their invasion, destruction and killing of random people in a sovereign nation, in this case its a neighbor of the nation they will play and they have bombed just a few miles away from Poland.
  Sometimes news and events will preclude the possibility of sport, nothing to celebrate about it but it couldnt be any other way imo

That made sense, other than considering it as a sole sanction.
This should also be something to consider, because this will cause an unexpected chaos that'll broaden the tension between 2 countries.
This war has affected so many lives particularly for the both Russia and Ukraine.

Russian bettors also gets affected as their favourite team won't be able to continue playing. So that means they'll need to opt to a different team, which might be less comfortable to put a bet for them.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: mia_houston on March 08, 2022, 11:42:02 AM
The economy of Russia will soon collapse because of this sanctions though its sad because sports are being dragged into this kind of politics, I feel sorry to those athletes who spend their life for the sports. Well the only one to blame here are the Russian government and ordinary people have to deal with this. Russia is not giving up, they still threatening other countries and looks like he is willing to go all out on this war.
The sanctions that western countries continue to impose on Russia have not stopped the Russian government from carrying out their attacks on Ukraine, in my opinion, what the world sports organizations are implementing against Russia will also not have much effect on their political decisions, indeed in this case many athletes are disadvantaged and should world organizations sport should be able to take decisions that are neutral and not detrimental to the athletes, maybe in my opinion instead of banning Russian athletes from competing, wouldn't it be better to impose sanctions banning Russia from hosting every world sporting event held in the future, applying total sanctions to this athlete who has no connection at all to politics is clearly destroying the basic principles that have had the sport so far.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: dwminer1 on March 08, 2022, 12:42:27 PM
"Following the escalation of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, which has led to an ongoing and distressing humanitarian crisis, the Bureau of the FIFA Council has decided – in coordination with UEFA and after consultation with various stakeholders – to temporarily amend the Regulations on the Status and Transfer of Players (RSTP) in order to provide legal certainty and clarity on a number of matters." More info here: https://www.fifa.com/about-fifa/organisation/fifa-council/media-releases/fifa-adopts-temporary-employment-and-registration-rules-to-address-several

I believe that many foreign players from the Russian league will take advantage of the opportunity to change their employer.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Polkeins on March 08, 2022, 12:57:53 PM
"Following the escalation of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, which has led to an ongoing and distressing humanitarian crisis, the Bureau of the FIFA Council has decided – in coordination with UEFA and after consultation with various stakeholders – to temporarily amend the Regulations on the Status and Transfer of Players (RSTP) in order to provide legal certainty and clarity on a number of matters." More info here: https://www.fifa.com/about-fifa/organisation/fifa-council/media-releases/fifa-adopts-temporary-employment-and-registration-rules-to-address-several

I believe that many foreign players from the Russian league will take advantage of the opportunity to change their employer.

Well, apparently they will simply have no other choice, unless they are paid in dollars, as before. To be honest, the legionnaires who play in the Russian Premier League are not the best. Few of the top players were ready to go to Russia before, now probably no one will go at all. Russian clubs have not shone in cup competitions anyway, and now it is not clear what will happen.
The only plus is that children's schools will be developed so that local pupils will perform.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Alanaz on March 08, 2022, 03:58:52 PM
"Following the escalation of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, which has led to an ongoing and distressing humanitarian crisis, the Bureau of the FIFA Council has decided – in coordination with UEFA and after consultation with various stakeholders – to temporarily amend the Regulations on the Status and Transfer of Players (RSTP) in order to provide legal certainty and clarity on a number of matters." More info here: https://www.fifa.com/about-fifa/organisation/fifa-council/media-releases/fifa-adopts-temporary-employment-and-registration-rules-to-address-several

I believe that many foreign players from the Russian league will take advantage of the opportunity to change their employer.

Well, apparently they will simply have no other choice, unless they are paid in dollars, as before. To be honest, the legionnaires who play in the Russian Premier League are not the best. Few of the top players were ready to go to Russia before, now probably no one will go at all. Russian clubs have not shone in cup competitions anyway, and now it is not clear what will happen.
The only plus is that children's schools will be developed so that local pupils will perform.

Of course, with this, foreign players think again about being there because indeed their future will indirectly be threatened if they decide to stay.
maybe this will be filled again by local players and this will make it more difficult for them to compete in any case. not mean to belittle but with the gathering of local players it will be very difficult to adapt football from other countries which makes this very difficult


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Vaskiy on March 08, 2022, 06:49:45 PM
The economy of Russia will soon collapse because of this sanctions though its sad because sports are being dragged into this kind of politics, I feel sorry to those athletes who spend their life for the sports. Well the only one to blame here are the Russian government and ordinary people have to deal with this. Russia is not giving up, they still threatening other countries and looks like he is willing to go all out on this war.
The sanctions that western countries continue to impose on Russia have not stopped the Russian government from carrying out their attacks on Ukraine, in my opinion, what the world sports organizations are implementing against Russia will also not have much effect on their political decisions, indeed in this case many athletes are disadvantaged and should world organizations sport should be able to take decisions that are neutral and not detrimental to the athletes, maybe in my opinion instead of banning Russian athletes from competing, wouldn't it be better to impose sanctions banning Russia from hosting every world sporting event held in the future, applying total sanctions to this athlete who has no connection at all to politics is clearly destroying the basic principles that have had the sport so far.

The sanctions over Russia have greatly impacted them, but the ego has made them continue the war. A very small population is supporting the war whereas the majority of the Russians are against war. For now instead of banning Russian players from every games it is good to ban Russia from hosting different sports events.

Sports is part of peace making organization, so restricting players from Russia might have positive as well as negative impacts. On the positive note, Russia can think of peace. On the negative note, Russian players miss World level sporting opportunities.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: wildan88 on March 08, 2022, 06:55:50 PM
All measures taken have a major impact, but Putin does not want to budge. Apparently it doesn't matter much to him that everyone with Russian nationality is now being duped. Because it is now a sanction against Russian people, not against Russia. It should already be clear that Putin doesn't care much about what measures are taken, he will continue to the end. On the other hand, a diplomatic solution seemed impossible, it is a difficult story. You should actually sit somewhere in the middle, banning everything and everyone seems to me more fighting evil with evil and not the solution.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Mahanton on March 08, 2022, 08:43:51 PM
Yeah, it's sad that they're in lining it with their political stand but it's all about war and that's too much already. There's no problem if it's just a normal politics that's happening inside Russia.
But, it has included and destroyed a lot of facilities, buildings and lives inside Ukraine and that's why they're making this stand. Although in generalizing Russians, not all of them are agreeing with this war.
Being russian doesnt mean that you would always agree on what your government had been doing specially into this war on which lots had been disagreeing for this stuff and now that they are facing
lots of sanctions then it is really affecting their lives at the moment and just speaking for wasted human lives then this is something not everybody would really agree upon.
Almost all of industries would really be giving out the same decisions on this current condition.
It's the same for other race. The government and its leader doing its thing while many of its constituents are disagreeing with what they're seeing.
We're all for peace and we can't do anything that much with it because we're just citizens that are following orders of the government and we can feel the Russian peace keeping people. Whether it's for the sports, football and any other sporting events, they all want peace but they're divided because of what the government is being done to Ukraine and its people.
There's no exemption actually yet these decisions could really be also done on particular the same scenario or situation no matter what country is involved with.They would really be still having on the
same input and decision to be made on time like this which its true that there's nothing we can do but to abide with those laws or rules been set out or else you do know on what would happen.
If they do make out such decision then it would be final and it would really be just changed up if everything goes fine again.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: karabiber on March 08, 2022, 08:50:44 PM
I don't know. I don't support Russia but I find these actions absurd. There are millions of people in Russia who are against the war. Punishment method is very wrong. Putting an embargo on sports and art does not justify anyone. All of this must end as soon as possible. Peace for all.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: yayayo on March 08, 2022, 08:53:52 PM
Of course everyone thought that such sanctions would make Putin think, but nothing is worth less. Doesn't seem to care about it, not impressed. You can only tackle such things by directly addressing Putin, for example that he can no longer access his money. Now many Russian clubs and athletes have been duped, while there is nothing they can do about it and probably a large part of them will not even support Putin's regime. But they can't speak out for fear of reprisals.

ya.ya.yo!


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: W Jr. on March 08, 2022, 09:01:42 PM
The country that started this war is Russia. Of course, there would be sanctions in some way, but I don't think football teams played a role in this. I think they could have continued the tournament. However, if there were teams with statements that could defend the war, they could have been eliminated. I have a lot of Russian friends who do not approve of Putin's war decision.
But on the other hand, isn't this something that is unfair in terms of sportsmanship? What I mean is that when it comes to restricting Russian athletes, doesn't this still apply to Ukraine because of course both sides at war even if Russia started the Invasion cannot be justified but with this kind of thing Ukraine also did nothing wrong?
Example. When there are 2 soccer players fighting on the field, of course, the referee will give a card, either yellow or red, to two players and this of course can still apply to both parties, not just one.

Considering that Ukraine is defending itself, this is not unfair. In fact, Russia unfairly declared war on Ukraine. In this case, this sanction was to punish Russia. I'm sure UEFA and Fifa know that the Russian teams are not at fault. We cannot think in the same way as the penalty given to both teams. Russia shows that it is not considering these sanctions at the moment. Even if there are no sanctions for the Ukrainian teams, I don't think they can concentrate on football.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: South Park on March 08, 2022, 09:28:55 PM
The economy of Russia will soon collapse because of this sanctions though its sad because sports are being dragged into this kind of politics, I feel sorry to those athletes who spend their life for the sports. Well the only one to blame here are the Russian government and ordinary people have to deal with this. Russia is not giving up, they still threatening other countries and looks like he is willing to go all out on this war.
The sanctions that western countries continue to impose on Russia have not stopped the Russian government from carrying out their attacks on Ukraine, in my opinion, what the world sports organizations are implementing against Russia will also not have much effect on their political decisions, indeed in this case many athletes are disadvantaged and should world organizations sport should be able to take decisions that are neutral and not detrimental to the athletes, maybe in my opinion instead of banning Russian athletes from competing, wouldn't it be better to impose sanctions banning Russia from hosting every world sporting event held in the future, applying total sanctions to this athlete who has no connection at all to politics is clearly destroying the basic principles that have had the sport so far.

They probably knew all of this before they implemented those sanctions and they still did it, so it is unlikely they are going to change their mind once they made their decision public, after all if they decided to reverse their decision at this moment then the ones that will receive a massive backlash will be themselves, for taking a stance and then by not being able to maintain it, so I doubt we will see any change on their policies any time soon.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: TopT3ns on March 09, 2022, 06:02:02 AM

The economy of Russia will soon collapse because of this sanctions though its sad because sports are being dragged into this kind of politics, I feel sorry to those athletes who spend their life for the sports. Well the only one to blame here are the Russian government and ordinary people have to deal with this. Russia is not giving up, they still threatening other countries and looks like he is willing to go all out on this war.
I think is not true about Russia economic collapse soon after have several country try to banned Russia, exactly right now oil have pump price above increase 46%. But what happening with economic situation is not apply on football competition where FIFA and UEFA have suspended Russia from all football competition, I think need ask apology how to give access back for Russia can play on World Cup play off against with Poland on 28th March, I think FIFA never have ideas for Banned some countries participating on football competition.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: wxa7115 on March 09, 2022, 06:35:57 PM

The economy of Russia will soon collapse because of this sanctions though its sad because sports are being dragged into this kind of politics, I feel sorry to those athletes who spend their life for the sports. Well the only one to blame here are the Russian government and ordinary people have to deal with this. Russia is not giving up, they still threatening other countries and looks like he is willing to go all out on this war.
I think is not true about Russia economic collapse soon after have several country try to banned Russia, exactly right now oil have pump price above increase 46%. But what happening with economic situation is not apply on football competition where FIFA and UEFA have suspended Russia from all football competition, I think need ask apology how to give access back for Russia can play on World Cup play off against with Poland on 28th March, I think FIFA never have ideas for Banned some countries participating on football competition.
After the sanctions the economy of Russia has indeed gone down in a significant way, however once Russia becomes more stable and gets all the territory of Ukraine integrated in their territory then those sanctions are going to mean little for them.

After all even if a new round of sanctions is implemented they are not going to cause the same impact as the ones we already saw, as it is common sense to think the US used their most powerful sanctions from the very beginning of the conflict and now their economic weapons left on their arsenal will be small and will never have the same impact.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Lanatsa on March 09, 2022, 09:59:20 PM

The economy of Russia will soon collapse because of this sanctions though its sad because sports are being dragged into this kind of politics, I feel sorry to those athletes who spend their life for the sports. Well the only one to blame here are the Russian government and ordinary people have to deal with this. Russia is not giving up, they still threatening other countries and looks like he is willing to go all out on this war.
I think is not true about Russia economic collapse soon after have several country try to banned Russia, exactly right now oil have pump price above increase 46%. But what happening with economic situation is not apply on football competition where FIFA and UEFA have suspended Russia from all football competition, I think need ask apology how to give access back for Russia can play on World Cup play off against with Poland on 28th March, I think FIFA never have ideas for Banned some countries participating on football competition.
You would really expecting something like this kind of decision on which if you do see that everyone do make out some sanctions or cutting off ties then its expected that politics would also takes place when it comes to this.

Not surprising that they would really be making out decisions on what we are currently seeing as of this moment.It wont really be giving out bad impressions towards their decision because
this is where everyone is really been doing so it wouldnt really be getting much attention or issues.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: DoublerHunter on March 09, 2022, 11:45:12 PM
^ I dont know if this has already been posted it here but it is a bit scary and I am worried when President Putin says this.
( "Don’t you dare enter military affairs, stick to football. Russia will play at Qatar 2022 FIFA World Cup or there will be no World Cup to talk about.”)
https://twitter.com/babra_williams/status/1500072304478408704
There is a lot of Tweet on Twitter and I will not drop more links here just research your own. How does anyone think on this is FIFA will continue because of what Putin said?


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: batang_bitcoin on March 09, 2022, 11:51:19 PM
It's the same for other race. The government and its leader doing its thing while many of its constituents are disagreeing with what they're seeing.
We're all for peace and we can't do anything that much with it because we're just citizens that are following orders of the government and we can feel the Russian peace keeping people. Whether it's for the sports, football and any other sporting events, they all want peace but they're divided because of what the government is being done to Ukraine and its people.
There's no exemption actually yet these decisions could really be also done on particular the same scenario or situation no matter what country is involved with.They would really be still having on the
same input and decision to be made on time like this which its true that there's nothing we can do but to abide with those laws or rules been set out or else you do know on what would happen.
If they do make out such decision then it would be final and it would really be just changed up if everything goes fine again.
I'm just hoping that someday when this war is done and Ukraine and Russia has agreed to stop this war, all of these suspensions would be gone and through sports, everyone is going to be reunited again.
There's some good news that I've read lately that Ukraine has stopped its interest of joining NATO which is why Russia is aggressing on them. But they've signed to be part of Europe.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Sithara007 on March 10, 2022, 03:15:08 AM
I'm just hoping that someday when this war is done and Ukraine and Russia has agreed to stop this war, all of these suspensions would be gone and through sports, everyone is going to be reunited again.
There's some good news that I've read lately that Ukraine has stopped its interest of joining NATO which is why Russia is aggressing on them. But they've signed to be part of Europe.

The war is not going to end anytime soon, and so the sanctions will remain in place for a few more years at least. And we all know the nature of Putin. He is a very strong leader and he's least bothered about the sports sanctions. As long as the crude oil and natural gas prices remain at historic high levels, he is not going to be worried. The irony is that Putin is actually benefiting from the sanctions, as he is getting more $$$ from his crude oil and gas exports. And regarding the FIFA world cup, the chances that Russia would qualify was very low anyway.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 10, 2022, 04:39:00 AM
With regard to these sanctions, I have seen that some Russian soccer players have hardly spoken, this is because there have been so many deaths of civilians and children that this makes it very tight, in fact there is a Colombian soccer player who was given permission to leave Russia and get to Colombia and until something is fixed about that problem or the war, well, he goes back there, apart from soccer, some people who want to leave Russia also have to do a lot of things to get permission, at it seems that both sport and other activities have been completely paralyzed, I don't know how good it is for some athletes worldwide this will affect them in their careers, because who would they represent? they would have to give up their Russian nationality and represent another country.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: batang_bitcoin on March 10, 2022, 11:42:14 AM
I'm just hoping that someday when this war is done and Ukraine and Russia has agreed to stop this war, all of these suspensions would be gone and through sports, everyone is going to be reunited again.
There's some good news that I've read lately that Ukraine has stopped its interest of joining NATO which is why Russia is aggressing on them. But they've signed to be part of Europe.

The war is not going to end anytime soon, and so the sanctions will remain in place for a few more years at least. And we all know the nature of Putin. He is a very strong leader and he's least bothered about the sports sanctions. As long as the crude oil and natural gas prices remain at historic high levels, he is not going to be worried. The irony is that Putin is actually benefiting from the sanctions, as he is getting more $$$ from his crude oil and gas exports. And regarding the FIFA world cup, the chances that Russia would qualify was very low anyway.
Yeah, we know that it won't be ending soon but it's also not bad to hope that it will be ending soon. Well, there's still some exposure and money from these sporting events that would go in for Russia but yeah, he's bit least afraid of it.
Another thing about the crude oil, it seems that the countries that are importing oil are the ones having the sanction due to its price hike.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: tyz on March 10, 2022, 11:57:41 AM
All measures taken have a major impact, but Putin does not want to budge. Apparently it doesn't matter much to him that everyone with Russian nationality is now being duped. Because it is now a sanction against Russian people, not against Russia. It should already be clear that Putin doesn't care much about what measures are taken, he will continue to the end. On the other hand, a diplomatic solution seemed impossible, it is a difficult story. You should actually sit somewhere in the middle, banning everything and everyone seems to me more fighting evil with evil and not the solution.

All the sanctions are aimed mainly at Putin's environment. I also believe that Putin is no longer accessible to the suffering of the population and the country in general, but the oligarchs on whom Putin is also dependent. He can overthrow one or two oligarchs and put them in a penal camp in Siberia with mock trials, but he can't do that to all of them. And it is precisely these oligarchs who are very much involved in sports. If you hit them hard, sooner or later you hit Putin, and I think that's the main plan behind these (sports) sanctions.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Polkeins on March 10, 2022, 05:31:13 PM
All measures taken have a major impact, but Putin does not want to budge. Apparently it doesn't matter much to him that everyone with Russian nationality is now being duped. Because it is now a sanction against Russian people, not against Russia. It should already be clear that Putin doesn't care much about what measures are taken, he will continue to the end. On the other hand, a diplomatic solution seemed impossible, it is a difficult story. You should actually sit somewhere in the middle, banning everything and everyone seems to me more fighting evil with evil and not the solution.

All the sanctions are aimed mainly at Putin's environment. I also believe that Putin is no longer accessible to the suffering of the population and the country in general, but the oligarchs on whom Putin is also dependent. He can overthrow one or two oligarchs and put them in a penal camp in Siberia with mock trials, but he can't do that to all of them. And it is precisely these oligarchs who are very much involved in sports. If you hit them hard, sooner or later you hit Putin, and I think that's the main plan behind these (sports) sanctions.

A perverse plan to be honest. I think few people know people like Roman Abramovich or Alisher Usmanov, they owned partially or completely such unknown clubs as Chelsea, Arsenal, Monaco. This is not counting a couple more English clubs, a league below.
Of course before no one in England or in the europe knew where they got the money from, how they got it, who gave it to them. They just came up and took all money, all billions from oil.
And then suddenly everyone "saw the light" at once. Before that, it was probably not visible all this. It is not visible how the oligarchs bought superyachts in Europe and huge mansions on the coast of Nice. But of course ordinary fans should suffer, whose football was an outlet, but now they have been deprived of it. Oligarchs now travel quietly in Europe. I didn't hear that any of them were badly hurt.  When everything settles down, Chelsea and other teams will buy again.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Lanatsa on March 10, 2022, 05:40:45 PM
^ I dont know if this has already been posted it here but it is a bit scary and I am worried when President Putin says this.
( "Don’t you dare enter military affairs, stick to football. Russia will play at Qatar 2022 FIFA World Cup or there will be no World Cup to talk about.”)
https://twitter.com/babra_williams/status/1500072304478408704
There is a lot of Tweet on Twitter and I will not drop more links here just research your own. How does anyone think on this is FIFA will continue because of what Putin said?
If you do see most of the replies it was been talking about being fake news which in all sanctions that Russia is facing on then i dont see that Putin would really put up some emphasis just on sport industry alone and would

really give out those kind of threats which turns out to be that dictatorial which somehow not surprising but i wont really be seeing for it to be childish for him to make out such step.
If this was true then that would surely put up some doubts on totally making out such decision on the entire organization.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: AakZaki on March 10, 2022, 05:59:37 PM
That made sense, other than considering it as a sole sanction.
This should also be something to consider, because this will cause an unexpected chaos that'll broaden the tension between 2 countries.
This war has affected so many lives particularly for the both Russia and Ukraine.

Russian bettors also gets affected as their favourite team won't be able to continue playing. So that means they'll need to opt to a different team, which might be less comfortable to put a bet for them.
To this day I have not heard of the effects of the sanctions imposed in the field of sports. Russia is still convinced of its aggression and war. I don't think it's a good strategic move from FIFA, because Russia also has a league played by outsiders. The Russians must have thought far about the doubt, so it seems they didn't pay much attention to that. Financially, they may be able to stand on their own. So they think the threat to state security is far more important than anything else.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: uneng on March 10, 2022, 06:01:33 PM
There wasn't much FIFA could do about it, because that was the choice of Russia's opponents to not play against them and it was out of FIFA's control to force anyone to play in such circumstances, otherwise there wouldn't be any competition at all and only Russia would remain active on the world cup qualifiers, with every other national teams lefting it meanwhile.
I feel sorry for russian players who are against this invasion and would like to represent their country on the world cup with the same strength and vitality they did in 2018, but were unfortunatelly prejudiced by the actions of their national leader.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: coolcoinz on March 10, 2022, 09:37:37 PM
I feel sorry for russian players who are against this invasion and would like to represent their country on the world cup with the same strength and vitality they did in 2018, but were unfortunatelly prejudiced by the actions of their national leader.

I used to feel sorry in the beginning but after seeing people who support the war on social media and write Z on their cars I no longer do. Russians are being brainwashed and they even say that they're planning to endure this like they always do. They will never rebel, they blame the West. It's a tragedy for both countries but Russians are to blame for everything that is going on.
I'm actually happy they were disqualified, especially after the following:

The behavior of an unhealthy person was very well demonstrated by Marina Ulyankina, coach of the Russian national gymnastics team. She commented on the sanctions on the participation of Russian and Belarusian athletes in competitions.

Instead of influencing her regime, the coach resorted to intimidation. This time she turned to Japan.
We must remind Watanabe – Hiroshima and Nagasaki,
– Ulyankina wrote on social networks.
Morinari Watanabe is a Japanese businessman who is the president of the International Gymnastics Federation.

https://thetimeshub.in/we-must-remind-watanabe-hiroshima-and-nagasaki-the-russian-coach-scares-japan-with-nuclear-weapons




Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: uneng on March 11, 2022, 12:04:45 AM
I feel sorry for russian players who are against this invasion and would like to represent their country on the world cup with the same strength and vitality they did in 2018, but were unfortunatelly prejudiced by the actions of their national leader.

I used to feel sorry in the beginning but after seeing people who support the war on social media and write Z on their cars I no longer do. Russians are being brainwashed and they even say that they're planning to endure this like they always do. They will never rebel, they blame the West. It's a tragedy for both countries but Russians are to blame for everything that is going on.
I'm actually happy they were disqualified, especially after the following:

The behavior of an unhealthy person was very well demonstrated by Marina Ulyankina, coach of the Russian national gymnastics team. She commented on the sanctions on the participation of Russian and Belarusian athletes in competitions.

Instead of influencing her regime, the coach resorted to intimidation. This time she turned to Japan.
We must remind Watanabe – Hiroshima and Nagasaki,
– Ulyankina wrote on social networks.
Morinari Watanabe is a Japanese businessman who is the president of the International Gymnastics Federation.

https://thetimeshub.in/we-must-remind-watanabe-hiroshima-and-nagasaki-the-russian-coach-scares-japan-with-nuclear-weapons
I don't know what to think about it, because russian captured prisioners said they didn't even know they were going to invade Ukraine, neither their families, while others said they received the information the country was dominated by fascists.

So there are lots of lies and misinformation going on in Russia and people there don't have access to the media like people from another countries (I'm not sure if it is due to ignorance or if free media and free access to internet is restricted there).

But regards the statement of the national gymnastics team's coach, it is shameful and disgusting, however it is expected people in command positions like this will act this way, because they will praise and endorse their leader's opinions and positions maximum as possible to earn points with the high command... Every countries have this type of scum people.

On the other hand, I'm not sure if the rest of the population agree with these threats and the bully style of Putin and his lacays towards another sovereight nations.

What do you think?


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Sithara007 on March 11, 2022, 02:17:12 AM
There wasn't much FIFA could do about it, because that was the choice of Russia's opponents to not play against them and it was out of FIFA's control to force anyone to play in such circumstances, otherwise there wouldn't be any competition at all and only Russia would remain active on the world cup qualifiers, with every other national teams lefting it meanwhile.
I feel sorry for russian players who are against this invasion and would like to represent their country on the world cup with the same strength and vitality they did in 2018, but were unfortunatelly prejudiced by the actions of their national leader.

The first decision from FIFA was fair to both the sides. Initially they asked Russian team to play under the banner of the Russian Football Association and shifted the matches from Russia to a neutral country. Then due to pressure from the US and the NATO bloc, the FIFA modified their initial decision and imposed a blanket ban on Russia and Belarus. Will their decision impact the ongoing war in anyway? I don't think so. It will just make Putin more determined to carry on with his invasion. In the end FIFA will witness football losing popularity to other sports in the Eurasian bloc.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Rockstarguy on March 11, 2022, 10:55:53 AM
The country that started this war is Russia. Of course, there would be sanctions in some way, but I don't think football teams played a role in this. I think they could have continued the tournament. However, if there were teams with statements that could defend the war, they could have been eliminated. I have a lot of Russian friends who do not approve of Putin's war decision.
That is the disadvantage of war it favours no one and it affects everything within the country in one way or the other, reason why  Russia case is very critical is because many countries are not in support of them that is why they are been given sanctions that will not only affect the president but good citizens of Russia.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: fzkto on March 11, 2022, 11:09:25 AM
Yesterday was the Europa League matches for passing to 1/4, but unfortunately the match Leipzig - Spartak Moscow was cancelled due to the disqualification of Spartak due to the total ban of everything Russian. I can no longer remember the last time Spartak got past the group stages. But it turns out that it didn't work out this time either.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: muratsink on March 11, 2022, 11:14:59 AM
the continuation of the last 16 of the Europa League has just finished the first leg, but an interesting event occurred in the RB leipzig match which was supposed to be against Spartak Moscow but the match could not take place because Russia and Spartak Moscow were fined by UEFA so they could not participate in the Europe League event, then it is certain that RB leipzig advances automatically to the next round of course this raises pros and cons considering UEFA took the decision to disqualify Spartak Moscow and Russia in various football events under the auspices of UEFA and FIFA


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: mv1986 on March 11, 2022, 01:19:34 PM
All measures taken have a major impact, but Putin does not want to budge. Apparently it doesn't matter much to him that everyone with Russian nationality is now being duped. Because it is now a sanction against Russian people, not against Russia. It should already be clear that Putin doesn't care much about what measures are taken, he will continue to the end. On the other hand, a diplomatic solution seemed impossible, it is a difficult story. You should actually sit somewhere in the middle, banning everything and everyone seems to me more fighting evil with evil and not the solution.

All the sanctions are aimed mainly at Putin's environment. I also believe that Putin is no longer accessible to the suffering of the population and the country in general, but the oligarchs on whom Putin is also dependent. He can overthrow one or two oligarchs and put them in a penal camp in Siberia with mock trials, but he can't do that to all of them. And it is precisely these oligarchs who are very much involved in sports. If you hit them hard, sooner or later you hit Putin, and I think that's the main plan behind these (sports) sanctions.

A perverse plan to be honest. I think few people know people like Roman Abramovich or Alisher Usmanov, they owned partially or completely such unknown clubs as Chelsea, Arsenal, Monaco. This is not counting a couple more English clubs, a league below.
Of course before no one in England or in the europe knew where they got the money from, how they got it, who gave it to them. They just came up and took all money, all billions from oil.
And then suddenly everyone "saw the light" at once. Before that, it was probably not visible all this. It is not visible how the oligarchs bought superyachts in Europe and huge mansions on the coast of Nice. But of course ordinary fans should suffer, whose football was an outlet, but now they have been deprived of it. Oligarchs now travel quietly in Europe. I didn't hear that any of them were badly hurt.  When everything settles down, Chelsea and other teams will buy again.

The reasoning of the UEFA and FIFA is different than you think and I must say when I read their statement it made sense to me:

They are saying that Ukraine's can't participate in sports activities right now because they have no administration and no practicing anymore because of the Russian war. None of the Ukraine sportsmen and women is to blame for the war, but they are the one's who can't participate in any competition. It would then be wrong to allow Russians to participate while their country invades another country: It is not against Russians, it is for justice between the Russians and the Ukrainians. There is some more background to that and I get their point. Also keep in mind that Russia is still be dealing with sanctions because of doping and so on. I think it is time to really take a stand against Russian practices in general. Russian sportsmen and women in the future should refuse to participate in illegal practices. I know probably everyone does, but Russia took it way beyond any acceptable limit (if there is something like an acceptable limit at all....)


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Polkeins on March 12, 2022, 01:38:34 PM
All measures taken have a major impact, but Putin does not want to budge. Apparently it doesn't matter much to him that everyone with Russian nationality is now being duped. Because it is now a sanction against Russian people, not against Russia. It should already be clear that Putin doesn't care much about what measures are taken, he will continue to the end. On the other hand, a diplomatic solution seemed impossible, it is a difficult story. You should actually sit somewhere in the middle, banning everything and everyone seems to me more fighting evil with evil and not the solution.

All the sanctions are aimed mainly at Putin's environment. I also believe that Putin is no longer accessible to the suffering of the population and the country in general, but the oligarchs on whom Putin is also dependent. He can overthrow one or two oligarchs and put them in a penal camp in Siberia with mock trials, but he can't do that to all of them. And it is precisely these oligarchs who are very much involved in sports. If you hit them hard, sooner or later you hit Putin, and I think that's the main plan behind these (sports) sanctions.

A perverse plan to be honest. I think few people know people like Roman Abramovich or Alisher Usmanov, they owned partially or completely such unknown clubs as Chelsea, Arsenal, Monaco. This is not counting a couple more English clubs, a league below.
Of course before no one in England or in the europe knew where they got the money from, how they got it, who gave it to them. They just came up and took all money, all billions from oil.
And then suddenly everyone "saw the light" at once. Before that, it was probably not visible all this. It is not visible how the oligarchs bought superyachts in Europe and huge mansions on the coast of Nice. But of course ordinary fans should suffer, whose football was an outlet, but now they have been deprived of it. Oligarchs now travel quietly in Europe. I didn't hear that any of them were badly hurt.  When everything settles down, Chelsea and other teams will buy again.

The reasoning of the UEFA and FIFA is different than you think and I must say when I read their statement it made sense to me:

They are saying that Ukraine's can't participate in sports activities right now because they have no administration and no practicing anymore because of the Russian war. None of the Ukraine sportsmen and women is to blame for the war, but they are the one's who can't participate in any competition. It would then be wrong to allow Russians to participate while their country invades another country: It is not against Russians, it is for justice between the Russians and the Ukrainians. There is some more background to that and I get their point. Also keep in mind that Russia is still be dealing with sanctions because of doping and so on. I think it is time to really take a stand against Russian practices in general. Russian sportsmen and women in the future should refuse to participate in illegal practices. I know probably everyone does, but Russia took it way beyond any acceptable limit (if there is something like an acceptable limit at all....)
Well, for example, should the United States of America be excluded from competitions for Iraq and Afghanistan, for example? The national teams of those countries could not participate competitively either because their country was razed to the ground. Although most of the athletes are from those countries were not terrorists and did not support any terrorist organizations. Or the ban can only apply to certain countries and, for example, the United States, it should not apply for some reason?
Therefore, FIFA must be completely consistent and exclude all countries that organize wars. Otherwise, it becomes clear that FIFA is just a tool in the hands of politicians and nothing more.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Gozie51 on March 12, 2022, 03:49:00 PM
the continuation of the last 16 of the Europa League has just finished the first leg, but an interesting event occurred in the RB leipzig match which was supposed to be against Spartak Moscow but the match could not take place because Russia and Spartak Moscow were fined by UEFA so they could not participate in the Europe League event, then it is certain that RB leipzig advances automatically to the next round of course this raises pros and cons considering UEFA took the decision to disqualify Spartak Moscow and Russia in various football events under the auspices of UEFA and FIFA

I think passing over to the next stage by the German club, Leipzig is the natural thing to happen because the Russia has been banned for invasion of Ukraine and so all her clubs will also get affected. It is a form of walk over for the club against the opponents until all the Russian clubs will go out from the competitions they are involved in. This is unfortunate and it is affecting club owners also like Abrahimovic.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Polkeins on March 12, 2022, 04:07:03 PM
the continuation of the last 16 of the Europa League has just finished the first leg, but an interesting event occurred in the RB leipzig match which was supposed to be against Spartak Moscow but the match could not take place because Russia and Spartak Moscow were fined by UEFA so they could not participate in the Europe League event, then it is certain that RB leipzig advances automatically to the next round of course this raises pros and cons considering UEFA took the decision to disqualify Spartak Moscow and Russia in various football events under the auspices of UEFA and FIFA

I think passing over to the next stage by the German club, Leipzig is the natural thing to happen because the Russia has been banned for invasion of Ukraine and so all her clubs will also get affected. It is a form of walk over for the club against the opponents until all the Russian clubs will go out from the competitions they are involved in. This is unfortunate and it is affecting club owners also like Abrahimovic.
it is not very clear why "Naturally"?
Spartak is a private club sponsored by a private team whose shares were sold on foreign exchanges. What did Spartak have to do with the events in Ukraine? The situation with the national team is "clear", it is a national team that is sponsored by the state, but why suspend a club sponsored by a private team. In addition, Spartak does not often enter the playoffs of the Europa League, in order to also suspend him along with everyone else.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: DU18 on March 12, 2022, 04:18:51 PM
the continuation of the last 16 of the Europa League has just finished the first leg, but an interesting event occurred in the RB leipzig match which was supposed to be against Spartak Moscow but the match could not take place because Russia and Spartak Moscow were fined by UEFA so they could not participate in the Europe League event, then it is certain that RB leipzig advances automatically to the next round of course this raises pros and cons considering UEFA took the decision to disqualify Spartak Moscow and Russia in various football events under the auspices of UEFA and FIFA
I personally never agree if UEFA/FIFA impose sanctions on clubs from Russia, because so far the club has no interest at all with political issues, in fact with the sanctions UEFA have made blunders against what they have been campaigning so far "If sports cannot be mixed up with politics", besides if UEFA/FIFA has clearly shown us that they have rules that are double standards against countries that have previously attacked or invaded in the middle east so far.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Gozie51 on March 12, 2022, 05:03:01 PM

it is not very clear why "Naturally"?
Spartak is a private club sponsored by a private team whose shares were sold on foreign exchanges. What did Spartak have to do with the events in Ukraine? The situation with the national team is "clear", it is a national team that is sponsored by the state, but why suspend a club sponsored by a private team. In addition, Spartak does not often enter the playoffs of the Europa League, in order to also suspend him along with everyone else.

Well I'm just explaining what I think is the possible situation to that. I'm not a party to what is happening but analysis on the effect of the sanctions on Russia is what the fact is. The sanction is targetted on the Russian empire if I can cover it that way. So it doesn't look into who owns the club but under which country that the club is operating. Spartak is in Russia, under the Russia league so I think that may be a reason.



Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Maestro75 on March 12, 2022, 05:35:34 PM

FIFA does not like government interfering in sports, and that is why FIFA does not think twice banning any country whose politicians try to mess up sporting activities. But why is FIFA now interfering in governance and politics of countries? Russia deserves all the sanctions it has received and nobody disagrees with that. What people are not happy with is why FIFA choose to speak out in this case while it overlooked other cases of countries attacking other weak ones around them. We know Europe and FIFA are trying to put fear in Putin by sanctioning Russia to see if he slows down by the sanctions.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Gozie51 on March 12, 2022, 05:52:27 PM

FIFA does not like government interfering in sports, and that is why FIFA does not think twice banning any country whose politicians try to mess up sporting activities. But why is FIFA now interfering in governance and politics of countries? Russia deserves all the sanctions it has received and nobody disagrees with that. What people are not happy with is why FIFA choose to speak out in this case while it overlooked other cases of countries attacking other weak ones around them. We know Europe and FIFA are trying to put fear in Putin by sanctioning Russia to see if he slows down by the sanctions.

The situation in Russia and Ukraine is more complicated compared to others that can be mentioned and in this case Russia got more than far above half of countries of the world against them which got them many sanction. This is a life matter that the world feels Russia is arrogantly usurping power against Ukraine. And which countries make up FIFA mostly ?


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Polkeins on March 12, 2022, 06:39:51 PM

FIFA does not like government interfering in sports, and that is why FIFA does not think twice banning any country whose politicians try to mess up sporting activities. But why is FIFA now interfering in governance and politics of countries? Russia deserves all the sanctions it has received and nobody disagrees with that. What people are not happy with is why FIFA choose to speak out in this case while it overlooked other cases of countries attacking other weak ones around them. We know Europe and FIFA are trying to put fear in Putin by sanctioning Russia to see if he slows down by the sanctions.
Such strict sanctions that are imposed every new day, they are connected with the fact that all this happening in Europe and affects the interests of Europe. If all this had happened in Africa, in the Middle East, it would have been all the same and the teams would have played and no one would have been banned. Did someone ban Saudi Arabia for the war in Yemen, the United States for the war in Iraq? Europe has finally decided to play seriously, without jokes, so the punishments fall on everyone indiscriminately. It doesn't matter if you're guilty or not.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: mv1986 on March 12, 2022, 08:07:41 PM
All measures taken have a major impact, but Putin does not want to budge. Apparently it doesn't matter much to him that everyone with Russian nationality is now being duped. Because it is now a sanction against Russian people, not against Russia. It should already be clear that Putin doesn't care much about what measures are taken, he will continue to the end. On the other hand, a diplomatic solution seemed impossible, it is a difficult story. You should actually sit somewhere in the middle, banning everything and everyone seems to me more fighting evil with evil and not the solution.

All the sanctions are aimed mainly at Putin's environment. I also believe that Putin is no longer accessible to the suffering of the population and the country in general, but the oligarchs on whom Putin is also dependent. He can overthrow one or two oligarchs and put them in a penal camp in Siberia with mock trials, but he can't do that to all of them. And it is precisely these oligarchs who are very much involved in sports. If you hit them hard, sooner or later you hit Putin, and I think that's the main plan behind these (sports) sanctions.

A perverse plan to be honest. I think few people know people like Roman Abramovich or Alisher Usmanov, they owned partially or completely such unknown clubs as Chelsea, Arsenal, Monaco. This is not counting a couple more English clubs, a league below.
Of course before no one in England or in the europe knew where they got the money from, how they got it, who gave it to them. They just came up and took all money, all billions from oil.
And then suddenly everyone "saw the light" at once. Before that, it was probably not visible all this. It is not visible how the oligarchs bought superyachts in Europe and huge mansions on the coast of Nice. But of course ordinary fans should suffer, whose football was an outlet, but now they have been deprived of it. Oligarchs now travel quietly in Europe. I didn't hear that any of them were badly hurt.  When everything settles down, Chelsea and other teams will buy again.

The reasoning of the UEFA and FIFA is different than you think and I must say when I read their statement it made sense to me:

They are saying that Ukraine's can't participate in sports activities right now because they have no administration and no practicing anymore because of the Russian war. None of the Ukraine sportsmen and women is to blame for the war, but they are the one's who can't participate in any competition. It would then be wrong to allow Russians to participate while their country invades another country: It is not against Russians, it is for justice between the Russians and the Ukrainians. There is some more background to that and I get their point. Also keep in mind that Russia is still be dealing with sanctions because of doping and so on. I think it is time to really take a stand against Russian practices in general. Russian sportsmen and women in the future should refuse to participate in illegal practices. I know probably everyone does, but Russia took it way beyond any acceptable limit (if there is something like an acceptable limit at all....)
Well, for example, should the United States of America be excluded from competitions for Iraq and Afghanistan, for example? The national teams of those countries could not participate competitively either because their country was razed to the ground. Although most of the athletes are from those countries were not terrorists and did not support any terrorist organizations. Or the ban can only apply to certain countries and, for example, the United States, it should not apply for some reason?
Therefore, FIFA must be completely consistent and exclude all countries that organize wars. Otherwise, it becomes clear that FIFA is just a tool in the hands of politicians and nothing more.

I won't argue that you don't have a point, but let's assume the FIFA made a mistake for NOT excluding USA for the Iraq invasion. Does your logic lead you to the conclusion that they should either correct that mistake for the future and exclude invaders, or are you deriving the conclusion that since the FIFA made a mistake with USA and Iraq, they should keep doing the same mistake throughout the future forever with any other country that invades acknowledged foreign territory? I think the FIFA should rather correct their mistake and exclude any nation for actions as we see them now from Russia.

PS: I'd like to know whether you think that Russia vs. Ukraine is 1:1 comparable to USA vs. Iraq. At least Russia didn't have a 9/11.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Johnyz on March 12, 2022, 08:20:54 PM

I won't argue that you don't have a point, but let's assume the FIFA made a mistake for NOT excluding USA for the Iraq invasion. Does your logic lead you to the conclusion that they should either correct that mistake for the future and exclude invaders, or are you deriving the conclusion that since the FIFA made a mistake with USA and Iraq, they should keep doing the same mistake throughout the future forever with any other country that invades acknowledged foreign territory? I think the FIFA should rather correct their mistake and exclude any nation for actions as we see them now from Russia.

PS: I'd like to know whether you think that Russia vs. Ukraine is 1:1 comparable to USA vs. Iraq. At least Russia didn't have a 9/11.
USA cause a lot of war in the past years, and they didn’t even suffer any suspension or any sanctions maybe because many countries are afraid of them or they just made a lot of allies that can support them from a war. I just can’t get the reason why a sporting events are getting into action with regards to war, as far as I know the athletes are not the reason why the war started. Well, this is already happening and maybe we can expect more of this if some countries also started with a war, sanctions is another form of economic war most probably.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Gozie51 on March 12, 2022, 09:00:43 PM

I won't argue that you don't have a point, but let's assume the FIFA made a mistake for NOT excluding USA for the Iraq invasion. Does your logic lead you to the conclusion that they should either correct that mistake for the future and exclude invaders, or are you deriving the conclusion that since the FIFA made a mistake with USA and Iraq, they should keep doing the same mistake throughout the future forever with any other country that invades acknowledged foreign territory? I think the FIFA should rather correct their mistake and exclude any nation for actions as we see them now from Russia.

PS: I'd like to know whether you think that Russia vs. Ukraine is 1:1 comparable to USA vs. Iraq. At least Russia didn't have a 9/11.
USA cause a lot of war in the past years, and they didn’t even suffer any suspension or any sanctions maybe because many countries are afraid of them or they just made a lot of allies that can support them from a war. I just can’t get the reason why a sporting events are getting into action with regards to war, as far as I know the athletes are not the reason why the war started. Well, this is already happening and maybe we can expect more of this if some countries also started with a war, sanctions is another form of economic war most probably.

Maybe FIFA is looking at exceptional cases or it is just a new idealogy that has come to their mind. The case of US and Iraq, I guess it had a cause which was the 9/11 bumping of world trade center, pentagon and other misses of attacks (like the white house). So I believe US traced their suspect there or something which I may not know the exact information for that but if that was so, I guess US could be justified if they went searching but then maybe FIFA is looking the whole thing from different perspective.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Sithara007 on March 13, 2022, 03:18:03 AM
Maybe FIFA is looking at exceptional cases or it is just a new idealogy that has come to their mind. The case of US and Iraq, I guess it had a cause which was the 9/11 bumping of world trade center, pentagon and other misses of attacks (like the white house). So I believe US traced their suspect there or something which I may not know the exact information for that but if that was so, I guess US could be justified if they went searching but then maybe FIFA is looking the whole thing from different perspective.

You are nuts, if you believe that the 9/11 attacks had anything to do with Iraq. The Ba'ath regimes of Saddam Hussain in Iraq and Assad in Syria were secular, and they managed to keep Islamists out of power for many decades. The American invasion tried to overthrow these regimes and install Islamists in power. They were successful in Iraq, but failed in Syria. And the 9/11 attacks were planned and executed by the Taliban, an outfit that was created and trained by the Americans themselves to fight against the USSR in Afghanistan.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Marvell1 on March 13, 2022, 05:50:35 AM


Maybe FIFA is looking at exceptional cases or it is just a new idealogy that has come to their mind. The case of US and Iraq, I guess it had a cause which was the 9/11 bumping of world trade center, pentagon and other misses of attacks (like the white house). So I believe US traced their suspect there or something which I may not know the exact information for that but if that was so, I guess US could be justified if they went searching but then maybe FIFA is looking the whole thing from different perspective.
It's not a consideration, it's football that has been politically tampered with. The US is the country that has caused the most conflicts since World War II, but it does not appear to be blamed by the United Nations or other nations.
The act of not allowing Russia to participate in the World Cup is an evil political act of the US and Nato governments.
Football is considered a sport regardless of color, race and equality, but America is polluting the purity of the sport.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: hahay on March 13, 2022, 06:04:39 AM
But it seems that a move like this has no real effect for Russia itself, because even though many teams have been suspended and also many of them have received other policies such as account freezing that befell Roman Abramovich. In fact Russia is still on the offensive, not even a serious response from their president with what happened with the suspended team and other things too. Meanwhile, the suspension will be relaxed or released after the war subsides or ends, if there is no point of peace then of course it will be very worrying because it is very possible that the war will get wider.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: mindrust on March 13, 2022, 08:54:15 AM
Maybe FIFA is looking at exceptional cases or it is just a new idealogy that has come to their mind. The case of US and Iraq, I guess it had a cause which was the 9/11 bumping of world trade center, pentagon and other misses of attacks (like the white house). So I believe US traced their suspect there or something which I may not know the exact information for that but if that was so, I guess US could be justified if they went searching but then maybe FIFA is looking the whole thing from different perspective.

You are nuts, if you believe that the 9/11 attacks had anything to do with Iraq. The Ba'ath regimes of Saddam Hussain in Iraq and Assad in Syria were secular, and they managed to keep Islamists out of power for many decades. The American invasion tried to overthrow these regimes and install Islamists in power. They were successful in Iraq, but failed in Syria. And the 9/11 attacks were planned and executed by the Taliban, an outfit that was created and trained by the Americans themselves to fight against the USSR in Afghanistan.

That's why lots of people hate the US nowadays. When you overthrow the legitimate secular rulers of a state and bring islamist terrorists instead, lots of smart people won't like this and remember it for the rest of their lives. The US couldn't do this shit in Syria and I am grateful to Putin for standing against it. If Russia wasn't there, Syria was another Moslem Brotherhood state now.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: galambo on March 13, 2022, 09:13:19 AM

I won't argue that you don't have a point, but let's assume the FIFA made a mistake for NOT excluding USA for the Iraq invasion. Does your logic lead you to the conclusion that they should either correct that mistake for the future and exclude invaders, or are you deriving the conclusion that since the FIFA made a mistake with USA and Iraq, they should keep doing the same mistake throughout the future forever with any other country that invades acknowledged foreign territory? I think the FIFA should rather correct their mistake and exclude any nation for actions as we see them now from Russia.

PS: I'd like to know whether you think that Russia vs. Ukraine is 1:1 comparable to USA vs. Iraq. At least Russia didn't have a 9/11.

FIFA and UEFA had made mistakes many times not just once. Iraq was invaded and nothing happened, same for Afghanistan and Libya. But this time since an ally of USA and west was invaded we are seeing sanctions and protest against Russia. The world has dual face, one of weak and other for powerful.

Ask Russia and they will tell you why they attack ukarine, for them reason may be bigger then 9/11.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Gosgosking on March 13, 2022, 09:27:57 AM
I wouldn't blame Russia footballers or athletic for all this  things that are happening,  it is not their fault and they nothing about it FIFA would have bear with them knowing that every blame and fault is from the Russia president,  innocent citizens should not be hold responsible for the action of Russia president.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: mv1986 on March 13, 2022, 02:57:02 PM

I won't argue that you don't have a point, but let's assume the FIFA made a mistake for NOT excluding USA for the Iraq invasion. Does your logic lead you to the conclusion that they should either correct that mistake for the future and exclude invaders, or are you deriving the conclusion that since the FIFA made a mistake with USA and Iraq, they should keep doing the same mistake throughout the future forever with any other country that invades acknowledged foreign territory? I think the FIFA should rather correct their mistake and exclude any nation for actions as we see them now from Russia.

PS: I'd like to know whether you think that Russia vs. Ukraine is 1:1 comparable to USA vs. Iraq. At least Russia didn't have a 9/11.

FIFA and UEFA had made mistakes many times not just once. Iraq was invaded and nothing happened, same for Afghanistan and Libya. But this time since an ally of USA and west was invaded we are seeing sanctions and protest against Russia. The world has dual face, one of weak and other for powerful.

Ask Russia and they will tell you why they attack ukarine, for them reason may be bigger then 9/11.

Again, I am not saying that the UEFA and FIFA didn't make mistakes in the past. My question to you is: should they rather correct those mistakes in the future or should they keep making mistakes for everyone because they did it for the USA in the past? If we follow that logic we'll be going back to Stone Age. If X kills a member of family Y, family Y MUST kill one member of family X. No other options can be considered. Sounds smart.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Polkeins on March 13, 2022, 03:18:50 PM

I won't argue that you don't have a point, but let's assume the FIFA made a mistake for NOT excluding USA for the Iraq invasion. Does your logic lead you to the conclusion that they should either correct that mistake for the future and exclude invaders, or are you deriving the conclusion that since the FIFA made a mistake with USA and Iraq, they should keep doing the same mistake throughout the future forever with any other country that invades acknowledged foreign territory? I think the FIFA should rather correct their mistake and exclude any nation for actions as we see them now from Russia.

PS: I'd like to know whether you think that Russia vs. Ukraine is 1:1 comparable to USA vs. Iraq. At least Russia didn't have a 9/11.

FIFA and UEFA had made mistakes many times not just once. Iraq was invaded and nothing happened, same for Afghanistan and Libya. But this time since an ally of USA and west was invaded we are seeing sanctions and protest against Russia. The world has dual face, one of weak and other for powerful.

Ask Russia and they will tell you why they attack ukarine, for them reason may be bigger then 9/11.

Again, I am not saying that the UEFA and FIFA didn't make mistakes in the past. My question to you is: should they rather correct those mistakes in the future or should they keep making mistakes for everyone because they did it for the USA in the past? If we follow that logic we'll be going back to Stone Age. If X kills a member of family Y, family Y MUST kill one member of family X. No other options can be considered. Sounds smart.
The question here is rather not about the future and the past, whether the United States should be excluded in the future, but that double standards rule in the world - when nothing happens to the "strong" countries, and weak countries receive sanctions, and most often for giving back.
It is clear that now they will say that Russia attacked Ukraine and this is justified, but what about Saudi Arabia, which attacked Yemen, and Israel, which is fighting in the Gaza Strip.
Fifa turns a blind eye to this because they are all under the protection of the United States and a lot of money is involved there.
Therefore, it would be fair for Fifa not to interfere in politics at all, or to exclude ANYONE who starts a war \ special operation and attacks another country, regardless of his motives.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: bittraffic on March 13, 2022, 03:31:59 PM

I won't argue that you don't have a point, but let's assume the FIFA made a mistake for NOT excluding USA for the Iraq invasion. Does your logic lead you to the conclusion that they should either correct that mistake for the future and exclude invaders, or are you deriving the conclusion that since the FIFA made a mistake with USA and Iraq, they should keep doing the same mistake throughout the future forever with any other country that invades acknowledged foreign territory? I think the FIFA should rather correct their mistake and exclude any nation for actions as we see them now from Russia.

PS: I'd like to know whether you think that Russia vs. Ukraine is 1:1 comparable to USA vs. Iraq. At least Russia didn't have a 9/11.

FIFA and UEFA had made mistakes many times not just once. Iraq was invaded and nothing happened, same for Afghanistan and Libya. But this time since an ally of USA and west was invaded we are seeing sanctions and protest against Russia. The world has dual face, one of weak and other for powerful.

Ask Russia and they will tell you why they attack ukarine, for them reason may be bigger then 9/11.

Again, I am not saying that the UEFA and FIFA didn't make mistakes in the past. My question to you is: should they rather correct those mistakes in the future or should they keep making mistakes for everyone because they did it for the USA in the past? If we follow that logic we'll be going back to Stone Age. If X kills a member of family Y, family Y MUST kill one member of family X. No other options can be considered. Sounds smart.

Nothing can be corrected in the past but they could change the future. It's surprising that we don't talk about why there was the need to occupy Ukraine in the first place but after finding out so many US-funded biological laboratories in Ukraine, I think it's justified for them as much as 9/11. Russians however prevented the version of 9/11 in their country.

But the sports organizations seem to have found themselves in predicament because of world politics which sanctioning the athletes is much easier to do than finding a fair judgment.





Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Ondekinecakabilirim on March 13, 2022, 03:47:02 PM
Bad decision for everyone. I don't think football clubs have anything to do with politics. Sports and politics are different categories. Therefore, I think it is a wrong idea to ban football clubs from tournaments due to political imposition. Because you cannot punish the right person with this prohibition. The Russian Government has faced dozens of economic sanctions. But they did not give up on their decision. Why should they take this sanction seriously? Sanctioning football clubs does not punish the right person. I think the decision is wrong.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: og kush420 on March 15, 2022, 05:13:34 PM

If you want my answer with emotions, my answer will be good decision. Because Russia stands on war was not changed yet.Most of us not get out from the corona impact and Corona news. What made Russian to fight and kill the people of Ukraine. Only the International idea person can give a clear explanation for this. After corona, many country was recovering only now, but this war news was unacceptable to many country peoples.
Very right - we were not out of Corona War and yet to see another war. Heard on my local news channel that Three Nato leader, Polish, Czech and Salvocien had travelled to KYIV to attend talks. The global reaction can show to the world that war is not much appreciated in the modern time. I wish the same kind of reaction would have been shown earlier when innocent muslim were killed in many islamic states - this would not have happen.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: wxa7115 on March 15, 2022, 05:56:17 PM
^ I dont know if this has already been posted it here but it is a bit scary and I am worried when President Putin says this.
( "Don’t you dare enter military affairs, stick to football. Russia will play at Qatar 2022 FIFA World Cup or there will be no World Cup to talk about.”)
https://twitter.com/babra_williams/status/1500072304478408704
There is a lot of Tweet on Twitter and I will not drop more links here just research your own. How does anyone think on this is FIFA will continue because of what Putin said?
Those comments have received a lot of publicity but other than a world war I do not see how the world cup can be stopped, in all honestly I am surprised that Putin took the time to comment on the issue, after all when we consider the resistance that he is facing at Ukraine or the huge economic sanctions that Russia received, being disqualified from the UEFA playoffs seems like something small on comparison.

Still I would not worry about something like this, it is true the Russian army is strong but at the same time Ukraine is showing the world they are not as fearsome as we thought.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: KTChampions on March 15, 2022, 06:01:08 PM
Bad decision for everyone. I don't think football clubs have anything to do with politics. Sports and politics are different categories. Therefore, I think it is a wrong idea to ban football clubs from tournaments due to political imposition. Because you cannot punish the right person with this prohibition. The Russian Government has faced dozens of economic sanctions. But they did not give up on their decision. Why should they take this sanction seriously? Sanctioning football clubs does not punish the right person. I think the decision is wrong.

This is the right decision. You perceive it as a tool to influence politics and say that this tool does not work. Yes it is. But it shouldn't work because it's not a tool in this case. It is a simple moral act to cut all ties with the killer and aggressor. You can't go to war with a bandit in the morning and innocently play poker or football with him (or his best friend in robbery and murder) later in the evening. Distance from criminals in all areas is the right and traditional decision.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Sithara007 on March 16, 2022, 02:12:02 AM
Anyone heard about the news on Chelsea owner (Roman Abramovich)? In this case, I am going to support the decision from UEFA and FIFA. They have removed the oligarch from the ownership and prohibited the sale of his share. I have also heard that the British government is considering to sell assets of oligarchs including Abramovich and use the proceedings for charity. In the long term, this will benefit the ordinary Russians as well. Corrupt oligarchs will be afraid to move their money out of Russia as a result of this.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Ondekinecakabilirim on March 16, 2022, 02:40:06 PM
Bad decision for everyone. I don't think football clubs have anything to do with politics. Sports and politics are different categories. Therefore, I think it is a wrong idea to ban football clubs from tournaments due to political imposition. Because you cannot punish the right person with this prohibition. The Russian Government has faced dozens of economic sanctions. But they did not give up on their decision. Why should they take this sanction seriously? Sanctioning football clubs does not punish the right person. I think the decision is wrong.

This is the right decision. You perceive it as a tool to influence politics and say that this tool does not work. Yes it is. But it shouldn't work because it's not a tool in this case. It is a simple moral act to cut all ties with the killer and aggressor. You can't go to war with a bandit in the morning and innocently play poker or football with him (or his best friend in robbery and murder) later in the evening. Distance from criminals in all areas is the right and traditional decision.

Putin made the wrong and bad decision. Even most Russian citizens say this decision is wrong. Even those who voted for him. In this case, I don't think it's right to blame everyone. You cannot close all bakeries because the murder was committed with a bread knife. I don't think it's fair to punish people who had nothing to do with the murder. I respect your views. I wish the war to end. Thank you.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: KTChampions on March 16, 2022, 05:07:35 PM
This is the right decision. You perceive it as a tool to influence politics and say that this tool does not work. Yes it is. But it shouldn't work because it's not a tool in this case. It is a simple moral act to cut all ties with the killer and aggressor. You can't go to war with a bandit in the morning and innocently play poker or football with him (or his best friend in robbery and murder) later in the evening. Distance from criminals in all areas is the right and traditional decision.

Putin made the wrong and bad decision. Even most Russian citizens say this decision is wrong. Even those who voted for him. In this case, I don't think it's right to blame everyone. You cannot close all bakeries because the murder was committed with a bread knife. I don't think it's fair to punish people who had nothing to do with the murder. I respect your views. I wish the war to end. Thank you.

I am from Russia and believe me, I also suffered from various bans, but I understand their meaning. No matter how much we want universal justice, bombs, for example, in Berlin on the 45th fell on both fascists and anti-fascists. Every decision backfires even on "innocent" parties, such is life. I respect your views too, thank you.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Silberman on March 16, 2022, 06:35:12 PM
Anyone heard about the news on Chelsea owner (Roman Abramovich)? In this case, I am going to support the decision from UEFA and FIFA. They have removed the oligarch from the ownership and prohibited the sale of his share. I have also heard that the British government is considering to sell assets of oligarchs including Abramovich and use the proceedings for charity. In the long term, this will benefit the ordinary Russians as well. Corrupt oligarchs will be afraid to move their money out of Russia as a result of this.
I think we all understand what they are trying to do but at least in principle I cannot agree with that, after all I am part of this market and I believe on the principles behind bitcoin which allows you to be your own bank and doesn't allow for any third party to steal your money or your property with a few clicks as part of how the system is designed, so while I think it is fair to suspend some athletes or teams from international competitions this is just plain stealing.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: alegotardo on March 16, 2022, 11:49:00 PM
Anyone heard about the news on Chelsea owner (Roman Abramovich)? In this case, I am going to support the decision from UEFA and FIFA. They have removed the oligarch from the ownership and prohibited the sale of his share. I have also heard that the British government is considering to sell assets of oligarchs including Abramovich and use the proceedings for charity. In the long term, this will benefit the ordinary Russians as well. Corrupt oligarchs will be afraid to move their money out of Russia as a result of this.
I think we all understand what they are trying to do but at least in principle I cannot agree with that, after all I am part of this market and I believe on the principles behind bitcoin which allows you to be your own bank and doesn't allow for any third party to steal your money or your property with a few clicks as part of how the system is designed, so while I think it is fair to suspend some athletes or teams from international competitions this is just plain stealing.

Indeed,
We need to remember that many people who have nothing to do with this war are being harmed by the sanctions that are being imposed.

If even for those who are to blame for this war, we can say that they are being robbed... then what about those who lost their financial freedom without having any guilt in this war?

Bitcoin is a completely neutral monetary system in any situation, amazing how there are still people who don't see it and bet on it.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Sithara007 on March 17, 2022, 03:35:04 AM
I think we all understand what they are trying to do but at least in principle I cannot agree with that, after all I am part of this market and I believe on the principles behind bitcoin which allows you to be your own bank and doesn't allow for any third party to steal your money or your property with a few clicks as part of how the system is designed, so while I think it is fair to suspend some athletes or teams from international competitions this is just plain stealing.

Goes against their own principles as well. The Western press is claiming that this is Putin's war and the ordinary Russian people remain opposed to it. If that is the case, then how can they justify the suspension of Russia from the FIFA world cup (and similar actions taken by other sports bodies)? With these actions, they are indirectly saying that ordinary Russian people are responsible for the war and they should be punished. Good news for Putin. He will just play it to his own advantage and garner even more support from inside Russia.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: ipanks on March 17, 2022, 06:55:53 AM
Maybe that's why so many people suffer because of the war. On the one side, people want to find security in continuing their lives, but on the other hand, they are afraid that their assets will be taken by their government.

The last time I read news in the local media about Roman Abramovich trying to escape to Israel at Tel Aviv Airport moments before flying to Turkey. Abramovich, who also holds Israeli and Portuguese citizenship, was among seven Russian billionaires added to Britain's sanctions list on Thursday to isolate President Vladimir Putin over Russia's invasion of Ukraine.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Polkeins on March 17, 2022, 06:18:54 PM
I think we all understand what they are trying to do but at least in principle I cannot agree with that, after all I am part of this market and I believe on the principles behind bitcoin which allows you to be your own bank and doesn't allow for any third party to steal your money or your property with a few clicks as part of how the system is designed, so while I think it is fair to suspend some athletes or teams from international competitions this is just plain stealing.

Goes against their own principles as well. The Western press is claiming that this is Putin's war and the ordinary Russian people remain opposed to it. If that is the case, then how can they justify the suspension of Russia from the FIFA world cup (and similar actions taken by other sports bodies)? With these actions, they are indirectly saying that ordinary Russian people are responsible for the war and they should be punished. Good news for Putin. He will just play it to his own advantage and garner even more support from inside Russia.
I am glad that not all people advocate the exclusion of the national football team and, as a result, the punishment of ordinary people. It's good that many people understand that games for ordinary people are banned. If there is a desire to ban something and somehow influence, then it is necessary not to exclude the national team, but not to allow money to be exported from Russia to banks and Europe and not to allow Russian oligarchs to buy villas and superyachts in Europe. These are much more effective sanctions.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: KTChampions on March 17, 2022, 08:56:47 PM
I am glad that not all people advocate the exclusion of the national football team and, as a result, the punishment of ordinary people. It's good that many people understand that games for ordinary people are banned. If there is a desire to ban something and somehow influence, then it is necessary not to exclude the national team, but not to allow money to be exported from Russia to banks and Europe and not to allow Russian oligarchs to buy villas and superyachts in Europe. These are much more effective sanctions.

One does not cancel the other. Now all sanctions will be applied, both fair and unfair, effective and ineffective. This is a signal to Russia and the world that such actions as Russia arranged by starting a war with Ukraine are unacceptable in the modern world.



By the way, I read local sports news (Russian) and watch a huge stream of players who, using the permission of FIFA and UEFA to terminate contracts with Russian clubs unilaterally, leave Russia en masse. It seems that club football in Russia in just one season will roll back 20-30 years and subsequently return to a normal level will be incredibly difficult.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: og kush420 on March 17, 2022, 09:26:19 PM

One does not cancel the other. Now all sanctions will be applied, both fair and unfair, effective and ineffective. This is a signal to Russia and the world that such actions as Russia arranged by starting a war with Ukraine are unacceptable in the modern world.



By the way, I read local sports news (Russian) and watch a huge stream of players who, using the permission of FIFA and UEFA to terminate contracts with Russian clubs unilaterally, leave Russia en masse. It seems that club football in Russia in just one season will roll back 20-30 years and subsequently return to a normal level will be incredibly difficult.
But Russia will recover - I am sure all the section are temporary and they will end once the war is over. Russia is a super power. They are unstoppable and they know how to keep allies united. I am amazed how the world has reacted for the first time against war. Have that had happened earlier when other counties were calling for help. This horrible situation would have avoided.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Maus0728 on March 17, 2022, 10:20:43 PM
I think we all understand what they are trying to do but at least in principle I cannot agree with that, after all I am part of this market and I believe on the principles behind bitcoin which allows you to be your own bank and doesn't allow for any third party to steal your money or your property with a few clicks as part of how the system is designed, so while I think it is fair to suspend some athletes or teams from international competitions this is just plain stealing.

With these actions, they are indirectly saying that ordinary Russian people are responsible for the war and they should be punished.

Those decisions aren't really pertaining to such ideology that they are responsible' on the war. You cannot just continue accepting/giving entertainment to those countries that are in midst of war, you'll just end yourself in the middle on that war - from media and countries asking why as they also cut their ties with Russia (only those who doesn't really want to get involved). I think its just too bad to think that this is a matter of 'whos being held responsible'. It's just a normal thing that even at any war, normal citizens would always be stereotyped or pulled back by the war/issues.



Remember the time covid hits worldwide? Many on media had hatred on Chinese people and even all of the normal citizens are issued/criticized by the stereotype. it's a war that we cannot see. But also the normal people that suffered from the judgmental minds.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Fortify on March 17, 2022, 10:22:22 PM
Anyone heard about the news on Chelsea owner (Roman Abramovich)? In this case, I am going to support the decision from UEFA and FIFA. They have removed the oligarch from the ownership and prohibited the sale of his share. I have also heard that the British government is considering to sell assets of oligarchs including Abramovich and use the proceedings for charity. In the long term, this will benefit the ordinary Russians as well. Corrupt oligarchs will be afraid to move their money out of Russia as a result of this.
I think we all understand what they are trying to do but at least in principle I cannot agree with that, after all I am part of this market and I believe on the principles behind bitcoin which allows you to be your own bank and doesn't allow for any third party to steal your money or your property with a few clicks as part of how the system is designed, so while I think it is fair to suspend some athletes or teams from international competitions this is just plain stealing.

Indeed,
We need to remember that many people who have nothing to do with this war are being harmed by the sanctions that are being imposed.

If even for those who are to blame for this war, we can say that they are being robbed... then what about those who lost their financial freedom without having any guilt in this war?

Bitcoin is a completely neutral monetary system in any situation, amazing how there are still people who don't see it and bet on it.

What a load of garbage. Every Russian is accountable for the mass murder that their army is committing in Ukraine as we speak. They were never threatened by this country, Putin is just choosing to be a bully and pick on a country because it's people will not bow down to him. Only a tiny fraction of Russian's are protesting against this, the silent majority sits in fear but they are accomplices and many of them agree with the brainwashing propaganda that pollutes their mind. There was never any need for a single Russian soldier to enter this country, so the amount of sympathy for the worldwide backlash and sanctions should be zero. The negotiations are a joke because Putin has no desire to end this tragedy.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Mahanton on March 17, 2022, 10:36:55 PM
Anyone heard about the news on Chelsea owner (Roman Abramovich)? In this case, I am going to support the decision from UEFA and FIFA. They have removed the oligarch from the ownership and prohibited the sale of his share. I have also heard that the British government is considering to sell assets of oligarchs including Abramovich and use the proceedings for charity. In the long term, this will benefit the ordinary Russians as well. Corrupt oligarchs will be afraid to move their money out of Russia as a result of this.
I think we all understand what they are trying to do but at least in principle I cannot agree with that, after all I am part of this market and I believe on the principles behind bitcoin which allows you to be your own bank and doesn't allow for any third party to steal your money or your property with a few clicks as part of how the system is designed, so while I think it is fair to suspend some athletes or teams from international competitions this is just plain stealing.

Indeed,
We need to remember that many people who have nothing to do with this war are being harmed by the sanctions that are being imposed.

If even for those who are to blame for this war, we can say that they are being robbed... then what about those who lost their financial freedom without having any guilt in this war?

Bitcoin is a completely neutral monetary system in any situation, amazing how there are still people who don't see it and bet on it.

What a load of garbage. Every Russian is accountable for the mass murder that their army is committing in Ukraine as we speak. They were never threatened by this country, Putin is just choosing to be a bully and pick on a country because it's people will not bow down to him. Only a tiny fraction of Russian's are protesting against this, the silent majority sits in fear but they are accomplices and many of them agree with the brainwashing propaganda that pollutes their mind. There was never any need for a single Russian soldier to enter this country, so the amount of sympathy for the worldwide backlash and sanctions should be zero. The negotiations are a joke because Putin has no desire to end this tragedy.
Wont blame if you do have that kind of impression and treatment on overall on which as if these fellas does have options if they do tend to go against it? For sure even they do reside on a particular
country doesnt mean that they would really be loving to see other people die just because their leader had made out such step on whatever purpose he do have in mind.
Some sanctions are just right and some are not specially about exclusions because they are russians or something like that but well there's no stopping now.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: alegotardo on March 17, 2022, 11:33:45 PM
What a load of garbage. Every Russian is accountable for the mass murder that their army is committing in Ukraine as we speak. They were never threatened by this country, Putin is just choosing to be a bully and pick on a country because it's people will not bow down to him. Only a tiny fraction of Russian's are protesting against this, the silent majority sits in fear but they are accomplices and many of them agree with the brainwashing propaganda that pollutes their mind. There was never any need for a single Russian soldier to enter this country, so the amount of sympathy for the worldwide backlash and sanctions should be zero. The negotiations are a joke because Putin has no desire to end this tragedy.

I'm not Russian, but I was still shocked by your generalization.

We cannot blame every Russian citizen for Putin's consequences, Russian people cannot change their country in the same way they change the football team they support.

Remember that many Russian people who protested against Putin were arrested, and this is the main reason many people remain neutral, but that doesn't mean they agree.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Sithara007 on March 18, 2022, 03:13:12 AM
I'm not Russian, but I was still shocked by your generalization.

We cannot blame every Russian citizen for Putin's consequences, Russian people cannot change their country in the same way they change the football team they support.

Remember that many Russian people who protested against Putin were arrested, and this is the main reason many people remain neutral, but that doesn't mean they agree.

Being an Indian, I would say that it is wrong to blame Russia alone in this case. Russia did what any other country would do in self-defense. The endless expansion of NATO is the main trigger here. How would the Americans feel if Russia sets up missile bases across the border at Tijuana? From what I have seen, the vast majority of people in my country support Russia. Ukrainians made the mistake when they elected a clown as their president. Their soldiers are using civilians as human shield, and then complaining that the Russians are bombing residential areas.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: TopT3ns on March 18, 2022, 06:15:36 AM
Two weeks later will held world cup play off and Russia still not get good respond with suspended by FIFA and UEFA exactly will give free way to Poland pass to next stage without have against with Russia. I think still have any possibility because world cup play off first leg held on 28th March and maybe have little chance for unsuspend Russian national country, but if can't get chance Russia will be most disappointed because they have success lead to play off round and have little close way pass to world cup qatar.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Strongkored on March 18, 2022, 09:22:10 AM
Two weeks later will held world cup play off and Russia still not get good respond with suspended by FIFA and UEFA exactly will give free way to Poland pass to next stage without have against with Russia. I think still have any possibility because world cup play off first leg held on 28th March and maybe have little chance for unsuspend Russian national country, but if can't get chance Russia will be most disappointed because they have success lead to play off round and have little close way pass to world cup qatar.
If the sanctions were withdrawn, their opponents in this play off had already said refused to play against them, this would be next hot issue.
Pity the Russian players who are also affected by the choice of the leader. It looks like Russia will absolutely not be playing for the world cup qualifiers meaning there is no chance for Russia to compete in the world cup.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Razmirraz on March 18, 2022, 09:55:30 AM
Two weeks later will held world cup play off and Russia still not get good respond with suspended by FIFA and UEFA exactly will give free way to Poland pass to next stage without have against with Russia. I think still have any possibility because world cup play off first leg held on 28th March and maybe have little chance for unsuspend Russian national country, but if can't get chance Russia will be most disappointed because they have success lead to play off round and have little close way pass to world cup qatar.
If the sanctions were withdrawn, their opponents in this play off had already said refused to play against them, this would be next hot issue.
Pity the Russian players who are also affected by the choice of the leader. It looks like Russia will absolutely not be playing for the world cup qualifiers meaning there is no chance for Russia to compete in the world cup.
Like it or not, Russia must accept the harsh reality (absence in the world cup) due to sanctions from FIFA and UEFA. Not only Russia which failed to compete in the prestigious event, Spartak Moscow was also affected by the sanctions from FIFA and UEFA. This Russian club failed to play a match with RB Leipzig in the Europa League, as a result RB Leipzig was considered to automatically qualify for the round of 8.
Sanctions from FIFA and UEFA are like killing the careers of Russian football players, not only the Russian national team is banned from competition, Russian clubs are also prohibited from playing any matches under the auspices of FIFA and UEFA.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: uneng on March 18, 2022, 03:44:14 PM
Anyone heard about the news on Chelsea owner (Roman Abramovich)? In this case, I am going to support the decision from UEFA and FIFA. They have removed the oligarch from the ownership and prohibited the sale of his share. I have also heard that the British government is considering to sell assets of oligarchs including Abramovich and use the proceedings for charity. In the long term, this will benefit the ordinary Russians as well. Corrupt oligarchs will be afraid to move their money out of Russia as a result of this.
I think we all understand what they are trying to do but at least in principle I cannot agree with that, after all I am part of this market and I believe on the principles behind bitcoin which allows you to be your own bank and doesn't allow for any third party to steal your money or your property with a few clicks as part of how the system is designed, so while I think it is fair to suspend some athletes or teams from international competitions this is just plain stealing.

Indeed,
We need to remember that many people who have nothing to do with this war are being harmed by the sanctions that are being imposed.

If even for those who are to blame for this war, we can say that they are being robbed... then what about those who lost their financial freedom without having any guilt in this war?

Bitcoin is a completely neutral monetary system in any situation, amazing how there are still people who don't see it and bet on it.

What a load of garbage. Every Russian is accountable for the mass murder that their army is committing in Ukraine as we speak. They were never threatened by this country, Putin is just choosing to be a bully and pick on a country because it's people will not bow down to him. Only a tiny fraction of Russian's are protesting against this, the silent majority sits in fear but they are accomplices and many of them agree with the brainwashing propaganda that pollutes their mind. There was never any need for a single Russian soldier to enter this country, so the amount of sympathy for the worldwide backlash and sanctions should be zero. The negotiations are a joke because Putin has no desire to end this tragedy.
But what can individuals do against the government, especially a tough one like this? To make opposition against the government there must be organization and it seems it's impossible in Russia, because always someone becomes critical regards the local system while gaining popularity, this person is misteriously poisoned and dies... This way common citizens are by themselves, there isn't unity.
On the other hand, it's inevitable the civilized world sees Russia in the worse manner as possible at this time, including their citizens. Anyway, don't let the anger take control of your heart. Generalizations don't correspond to the real facts.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Cling18 on March 18, 2022, 04:23:04 PM
Two weeks later will held world cup play off and Russia still not get good respond with suspended by FIFA and UEFA exactly will give free way to Poland pass to next stage without have against with Russia. I think still have any possibility because world cup play off first leg held on 28th March and maybe have little chance for unsuspend Russian national country, but if can't get chance Russia will be most disappointed because they have success lead to play off round and have little close way pass to world cup qatar.
If the sanctions were withdrawn, their opponents in this play off had already said refused to play against them, this would be next hot issue.
Pity the Russian players who are also affected by the choice of the leader. It looks like Russia will absolutely not be playing for the world cup qualifiers meaning there is no chance for Russia to compete in the world cup.

It's really frustrating that even the Russian football team still has to suffer and face the sanctions because of this war. As for me, there's no way for them to play and compete in this year's playoff because there are already lots of complications. Though they don't deserve this, I believe that things like this still have to happen but we can't deny the fact that the Russian team has always been a big challenger.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: KTChampions on March 18, 2022, 04:28:22 PM

One does not cancel the other. Now all sanctions will be applied, both fair and unfair, effective and ineffective. This is a signal to Russia and the world that such actions as Russia arranged by starting a war with Ukraine are unacceptable in the modern world.



By the way, I read local sports news (Russian) and watch a huge stream of players who, using the permission of FIFA and UEFA to terminate contracts with Russian clubs unilaterally, leave Russia en masse. It seems that club football in Russia in just one season will roll back 20-30 years and subsequently return to a normal level will be incredibly difficult.
But Russia will recover - I am sure all the section are temporary and they will end once the war is over. Russia is a super power. They are unstoppable and they know how to keep allies united. I am amazed how the world has reacted for the first time against war. Have that had happened earlier when other counties were calling for help. This horrible situation would have avoided.

 ;D Are you trolling?
Naturally, sooner or later everything will work out, but I'm not at all sure that we will see the restoration of the Russian championship. For example, now no one is surprised that the championship of Yugoslavia or Czechoslovakia is not on the calendar of events. The same can happen with the championship of Russia.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: goldkingcoiner on March 18, 2022, 04:30:07 PM
Remember when people acted like this towards Arabs after 9/11? Or Japanese-Americans being put into internment camps in the USA in 1942 because of their ancestry? How many times are we going to act like Germany in 1940s everytime something bad happens in the world? What is it with this incessant need for having someone to blame?

This is obviously a politically motivated move to save themselves from bad PR. This has nothing to do with sanctioning Russia or stopping military funds from causing further damage in Ukraine. What do I think? I think its ridiculous. At what point are we going to start putting Russians in camps? Maybe lets start marking Russian-owned businesses in foreign countries with a painted sickel and hammer?

Are the Russian football players killing people, supporting the invasion or funneling funds towards the military? No. I am no friend of Putin's but we need to call out discrimination when we see it.

FIFA and UEFA should be ashamed.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: dbc23 on March 18, 2022, 04:39:44 PM
Two weeks later will held world cup play off and Russia still not get good respond with suspended by FIFA and UEFA exactly will give free way to Poland pass to next stage without have against with Russia. I think still have any possibility because world cup play off first leg held on 28th March and maybe have little chance for unsuspend Russian national country, but if can't get chance Russia will be most disappointed because they have success lead to play off round and have little close way pass to world cup qatar.
If the sanctions were withdrawn, their opponents in this play off had already said refused to play against them, this would be next hot issue.
Pity the Russian players who are also affected by the choice of the leader. It looks like Russia will absolutely not be playing for the world cup qualifiers meaning there is no chance for Russia to compete in the world cup.

It's really frustrating that even the Russian football team still has to suffer and face the sanctions because of this war. As for me, there's no way for them to play and compete in this year's playoff because there are already lots of complications. Though they don't deserve this, I believe that things like this still have to happen but we can't deny the fact that the Russian team has always been a big challenger.
It's sad a full nation have to pay in a hard sanction currency over a decision made by a single dictator . My biggest fear is that the sanctions by both FIFA and UEFA shouldn't escalate the war beyond Ukraine boarders. But even if they were allowed to participate their stars might be at risk too. At some point the sanction is important but the aftermath might be some thing that could be worrisome 


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Polkeins on March 18, 2022, 06:35:07 PM
I am glad that not all people advocate the exclusion of the national football team and, as a result, the punishment of ordinary people. It's good that many people understand that games for ordinary people are banned. If there is a desire to ban something and somehow influence, then it is necessary not to exclude the national team, but not to allow money to be exported from Russia to banks and Europe and not to allow Russian oligarchs to buy villas and superyachts in Europe. These are much more effective sanctions.

One does not cancel the other. Now all sanctions will be applied, both fair and unfair, effective and ineffective. This is a signal to Russia and the world that such actions as Russia arranged by starting a war with Ukraine are unacceptable in the modern world.



By the way, I read local sports news (Russian) and watch a huge stream of players who, using the permission of FIFA and UEFA to terminate contracts with Russian clubs unilaterally, leave Russia en masse. It seems that club football in Russia in just one season will roll back 20-30 years and subsequently return to a normal level will be incredibly difficult.

The Russian Championship in this case is not a pity, everything was there on the money of the state, when the state in fact sponsored unprofitable clubs. And it would be fine if they played normally, like Manchester City or PSG, but no. In this case, individual people close to the leadership simply enriched themselves and international players  left as mercenaries should because of the threat of non-payment of wages. However, they are quite understandable.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: madnessteat on March 18, 2022, 07:09:55 PM
Remember when people acted like this towards Arabs after 9/11? Or Japanese-Americans being put into internment camps in the USA in 1942 because of their ancestry? How many times are we going to act like Germany in 1940s everytime something bad happens in the world? What is it with this incessant need for having someone to blame?

This is obviously a politically motivated move to save themselves from bad PR. This has nothing to do with sanctioning Russia or stopping military funds from causing further damage in Ukraine. What do I think? I think its ridiculous. At what point are we going to start putting Russians in camps? Maybe lets start marking Russian-owned businesses in foreign countries with a painted sickel and hammer?

Are the Russian football players killing people, supporting the invasion or funneling funds towards the military? No. I am no friend of Putin's but we need to call out discrimination when we see it.

FIFA and UEFA should be ashamed.

Many Russian citizens in other countries are already experiencing acts of harassment and bullying by some locals. It makes no difference to those who engage in it who the person is - a famous soccer player, a scientist or an oppositionist to the current government in Russia who has decided to run away from what is happening in the country. And this is very sad.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: KTChampions on March 18, 2022, 08:24:17 PM
One does not cancel the other. Now all sanctions will be applied, both fair and unfair, effective and ineffective. This is a signal to Russia and the world that such actions as Russia arranged by starting a war with Ukraine are unacceptable in the modern world.



By the way, I read local sports news (Russian) and watch a huge stream of players who, using the permission of FIFA and UEFA to terminate contracts with Russian clubs unilaterally, leave Russia en masse. It seems that club football in Russia in just one season will roll back 20-30 years and subsequently return to a normal level will be incredibly difficult.

The Russian Championship in this case is not a pity, everything was there on the money of the state, when the state in fact sponsored unprofitable clubs. And it would be fine if they played normally, like Manchester City or PSG, but no. In this case, individual people close to the leadership simply enriched themselves and international players  left as mercenaries should because of the threat of non-payment of wages. However, they are quite understandable.

Well, in fairness, we must admit that there were some achievements, both at the level of national teams and clubs - CSKA and Zenit won the UEFA Cup. As for unprofitability, this is a continuation of the Russian state - when everything is state-owned (formally or in fact), then naturally unprofitability or profitability does not bother anyone. Football was a political project and I'm glad that it fell under the rink like other areas of Russian interest.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Mahanton on March 18, 2022, 08:33:58 PM
Remember when people acted like this towards Arabs after 9/11? Or Japanese-Americans being put into internment camps in the USA in 1942 because of their ancestry? How many times are we going to act like Germany in 1940s everytime something bad happens in the world? What is it with this incessant need for having someone to blame?

This is obviously a politically motivated move to save themselves from bad PR. This has nothing to do with sanctioning Russia or stopping military funds from causing further damage in Ukraine. What do I think? I think its ridiculous. At what point are we going to start putting Russians in camps? Maybe lets start marking Russian-owned businesses in foreign countries with a painted sickel and hammer?

Are the Russian football players killing people, supporting the invasion or funneling funds towards the military? No. I am no friend of Putin's but we need to call out discrimination when we see it.

FIFA and UEFA should be ashamed.

Many Russian citizens in other countries are already experiencing acts of harassment and bullying by some locals. It makes no difference to those who engage in it who the person is - a famous soccer player, a scientist or an oppositionist to the current government in Russia who has decided to run away from what is happening in the country. And this is very sad.
Very sad indeed on which there's really that kind of discrimination on Russians on whatever career or job you do have then you wouldn't really be that exemption on which people does really have a
bad view or impressions towards you just because you are living on a country or does have that nationality on where your leader do hated the most.Lots of industries and decisions similar to this
on where sanctions and blocking our excluding or removing is very common nowadays as long you do attached up on being Russian then they would be having that common impression
but its not really that totally a solid basis for removing some consideration.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Sithara007 on March 19, 2022, 03:21:11 AM
Well, in fairness, we must admit that there were some achievements, both at the level of national teams and clubs - CSKA and Zenit won the UEFA Cup. As for unprofitability, this is a continuation of the Russian state - when everything is state-owned (formally or in fact), then naturally unprofitability or profitability does not bother anyone. Football was a political project and I'm glad that it fell under the rink like other areas of Russian interest.

I always wondered why Gazprom and Rosneft are spending hundreds of millions of USD in sponsoring sports teams, when a lot of people in Russia don't have access to piped natural gas. During the peak period of 2009-2014, these companies were carelessly spending their revenue, instead of re-investing them in new projects. As a result, countries such as Qatar and Australia surged ahead with new LNG projects and Russia lost market share everywhere. And it is not just the government owned companies. Oligarchs like Roman Abramovich were also splurging their money carelessly while their compatriots were suffering back home in Russia.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: TopT3ns on March 19, 2022, 05:16:41 AM

Well, in fairness, we must admit that there were some achievements, both at the level of national teams and clubs - CSKA and Zenit won the UEFA Cup. As for unprofitability, this is a continuation of the Russian state - when everything is state-owned (formally or in fact), then naturally unprofitability or profitability does not bother anyone. Football was a political project and I'm glad that it fell under the rink like other areas of Russian interest.
Both Russia team CSKA Moscow and Zenit always active participants on Champion League or Europe League but in this season after suspending by UEFA will give their slot to other country for qualifying on both UEFA competition between champion league or europe league, I think bad impact because Russia football team can't participant on UEFA competition next season if still suspended and war invasion keep continue until next football competition begin, I think still have chance for Russia football team for getting back their chance to UEFA competition if war stopping and FIFA will give back football access to Russia.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Polkeins on March 19, 2022, 10:49:07 AM
Well, in fairness, we must admit that there were some achievements, both at the level of national teams and clubs - CSKA and Zenit won the UEFA Cup. As for unprofitability, this is a continuation of the Russian state - when everything is state-owned (formally or in fact), then naturally unprofitability or profitability does not bother anyone. Football was a political project and I'm glad that it fell under the rink like other areas of Russian interest.

I always wondered why Gazprom and Rosneft are spending hundreds of millions of USD in sponsoring sports teams, when a lot of people in Russia don't have access to piped natural gas. During the peak period of 2009-2014, these companies were carelessly spending their revenue, instead of re-investing them in new projects. As a result, countries such as Qatar and Australia surged ahead with new LNG projects and Russia lost market share everywhere. And it is not just the government owned companies. Oligarchs like Roman Abramovich were also splurging their money carelessly while their compatriots were suffering back home in Russia.
The answer is quite simple: the oligarchs like football, but they don't care about gas in the homes of ordinary Russians. And since Russia is essentially controlled by oligarchs, the money went only where they were interested in investing.
If people who rules in Gazprom like football, then they did not spare money for foreign legionnaires, paying $ 65 million for the hulk and $ 35 for Witsel. The players themselves are good, there are no complaints about them. But when most of the houses in the country are without gas, it is very strange to see such purchases.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: KTChampions on March 19, 2022, 03:05:51 PM
Well, in fairness, we must admit that there were some achievements, both at the level of national teams and clubs - CSKA and Zenit won the UEFA Cup. As for unprofitability, this is a continuation of the Russian state - when everything is state-owned (formally or in fact), then naturally unprofitability or profitability does not bother anyone. Football was a political project and I'm glad that it fell under the rink like other areas of Russian interest.

I always wondered why Gazprom and Rosneft are spending hundreds of millions of USD in sponsoring sports teams, when a lot of people in Russia don't have access to piped natural gas. During the peak period of 2009-2014, these companies were carelessly spending their revenue, instead of re-investing them in new projects. As a result, countries such as Qatar and Australia surged ahead with new LNG projects and Russia lost market share everywhere. And it is not just the government owned companies. Oligarchs like Roman Abramovich were also splurging their money carelessly while their compatriots were suffering back home in Russia.

 ;D I'm from Russia and I've always wondered about this too (actually not because I know that the Russian state considers its citizens to be slaves/resource). As for non-state companies, this is a misconception, we have all companies state-owned - but some are formal state-owned, and some are not.

Both Russia team CSKA Moscow and Zenit always active participants on Champion League or Europe League but in this season after suspending by UEFA will give their slot to other country for qualifying on both UEFA competition between champion league or europe league, I think bad impact because Russia football team can't participant on UEFA competition next season if still suspended and war invasion keep continue until next football competition begin, I think still have chance for Russia football team for getting back their chance to UEFA competition if war stopping and FIFA will give back football access to Russia.

Various options are possible, including such as with Yugoslavia or Czechoslovakia, as I wrote in another topic. No one knows what Russia will turn into after the war, but the fact that sports issues are nonsense against the backdrop of the war is a fact.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: og kush420 on March 19, 2022, 05:52:52 PM

Many Russian citizens in other countries are already experiencing acts of harassment and bullying by some locals. It makes no difference to those who engage in it who the person is - a famous soccer player, a scientist or an oppositionist to the current government in Russia who has decided to run away from what is happening in the country. And this is very sad.
It is high time - that the world should should stand up against violence. But then I think  there will be no stopping- no matter how many sections are made against Russia. Russia will rise,it will remain a  powerful state and will keep imposing their powers on the weak counties. There will be the same kind of wars in coming days and innocent will suffer like always.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Silberman on March 20, 2022, 06:28:57 PM

One does not cancel the other. Now all sanctions will be applied, both fair and unfair, effective and ineffective. This is a signal to Russia and the world that such actions as Russia arranged by starting a war with Ukraine are unacceptable in the modern world.



By the way, I read local sports news (Russian) and watch a huge stream of players who, using the permission of FIFA and UEFA to terminate contracts with Russian clubs unilaterally, leave Russia en masse. It seems that club football in Russia in just one season will roll back 20-30 years and subsequently return to a normal level will be incredibly difficult.
But Russia will recover - I am sure all the section are temporary and they will end once the war is over. Russia is a super power. They are unstoppable and they know how to keep allies united. I am amazed how the world has reacted for the first time against war. Have that had happened earlier when other counties were calling for help. This horrible situation would have avoided.
Even if the sanctions do not end automatically once the war ends their power will be limited, after all the world still needs oil and gas, so if the US and other countries do not want Russia as their provider there will always be someone interested in buying those two commodities regardless of what the US says, so even if Russia is not able to get the markets rates for their oil, the price has grown so much that they will still get way more money than what they did in the recent past before the war started.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: VanityWallets2015 on March 20, 2022, 06:40:44 PM

Many Russian citizens in other countries are already experiencing acts of harassment and bullying by some locals. It makes no difference to those who engage in it who the person is - a famous soccer player, a scientist or an oppositionist to the current government in Russia who has decided to run away from what is happening in the country. And this is very sad.
It is high time - that the world should should stand up against violence. But then I think  there will be no stopping- no matter how many sections are made against Russia. Russia will rise,it will remain a  powerful state and will keep imposing their powers on the weak counties. There will be the same kind of wars in coming days and innocent will suffer like always.

Of course I agree with this, but in fact only Russian citizens are now being punished. They have lost their purchasing power and cannot help themselves that Putin is implementing a hard and tight regime. The more sanctions you impose, the more Russia turns against the West, and the more it affects the Russian people. It will be the same with gambling, but there are still plenty of gambling sites that will accept Russian players.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: wxa7115 on March 21, 2022, 06:09:05 PM
Of course I agree with this, but in fact only Russian citizens are now being punished. They have lost their purchasing power and cannot help themselves that Putin is implementing a hard and tight regime. The more sanctions you impose, the more Russia turns against the West, and the more it affects the Russian people. It will be the same with gambling, but there are still plenty of gambling sites that will accept Russian players.
This is what makes war so useless, innocent people end up paying the price because of the decisions politicians took at the very top while those politicians do not suffer at all.

After all do we think that Putin is suffering because of all the sanctions that have been imposed against his government? He does not care, because if he did then the war would not have happened at all as he would have known the US was not going to tolerate something like this, so right now the only ones suffering at Russia are the citizens.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: fzkto on March 21, 2022, 06:33:18 PM
The bad thing in this history is not that Russia is excluded from all international competitions not only in football, but in almost all other disciplines, but the bad thing is that athletes will lose their classification and experience because the level of play will drop a lot. The motivation for Russian players has always been lacking because they were paid a huge amount of money for any results. And now the quality of their game will decrease even more, because they will only play each other, where everyone has a bad level.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Tumanggor on March 21, 2022, 07:12:47 PM
The bad thing in this history is not that Russia is excluded from all international competitions not only in football, but in almost all other disciplines, but the bad thing is that athletes will lose their classification and experience because the level of play will drop a lot. The motivation for Russian players has always been lacking because they were paid a huge amount of money for any results. And now the quality of their game will decrease even more, because they will only play each other, where everyone has a bad level.
the mentality of the athletes will definitely be badly affected because of this sanction, they will not develop if they only play in the local football league

the latest news that I heard, the president of ukraine has been refused 3 times to make peace by russia, this shows that putin does not care about the economic and sports sanctions imposed by his countries. Putin is a dictator and his brain is messed up


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: bitgov on March 21, 2022, 07:15:29 PM
The bad thing in this history is not that Russia is excluded from all international competitions not only in football, but in almost all other disciplines, but the bad thing is that athletes will lose their classification and experience because the level of play will drop a lot. The motivation for Russian players has always been lacking because they were paid a huge amount of money for any results. And now the quality of their game will decrease even more, because they will only play each other, where everyone has a bad level.
That is a sorry sight. The war is never a solution. I wish both the authorities sit and find a solution to save both the side from physical and psychological trauma.  
This war is surely affecting  sportsmen, athletes, gamblers businessmen and every citizen on both the sides also there will be global affects as well, I wish and hope this war ends soon.  


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: cygan on March 22, 2022, 03:10:07 PM
here is a cartoon which shows very clearly that the whole football and its infrastructure built for the euro 2012 as well as the whole stadiums will be or were destroyed by the whole war :-\ :-[

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOb4jh5WQAMfFAz?format=jpg&name=small
Quote
Murdering innocent Ukrainians, including footballers, fans of @FCShakhtar or @DynamoKyiv - THIS IS NOT POLITICS!
These are Ukrainian clubs, not Russian. Destroying stadiums that were built only 10 years for the #EURO2012 is also killing football in this independent country.
https://twitter.com/11vs11art/status/1506164416907202565 (https://twitter.com/11vs11art/status/1506164416907202565)


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: og kush420 on March 22, 2022, 09:10:01 PM
I'm not Russian, but I was still shocked by your generalization.

We cannot blame every Russian citizen for Putin's consequences, Russian people cannot change their country in the same way they change the football team they support.

Remember that many Russian people who protested against Putin were arrested, and this is the main reason many people remain neutral, but that doesn't mean they agree.

Being an Indian, I would say that it is wrong to blame Russia alone in this case. Russia did what any other country would do in self-defense. The endless expansion of NATO is the main trigger here. How would the Americans feel if Russia sets up missile bases across the border at Tijuana? From what I have seen, the vast majority of people in my country support Russia. Ukrainians made the mistake when they elected a clown as their president. Their soldiers are using civilians as human shield, and then complaining that the Russians are bombing residential areas.
EHUM _ Remember last time - when the incident of "fantastic tea" happened. There was a good chance that India and Pak will be difficult situation and Ik preferred talks over war. Saying that it's a power show where Human die on both the side of boarder - so war is never a solution -it only brings destruction and misery no matter how may good reasons a nation has.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Vaskiy on March 22, 2022, 10:57:38 PM
here is a cartoon which shows very clearly that the whole football and its infrastructure built for the euro 2012 as well as the whole stadiums will be or were destroyed by the whole war :-\ :-[

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOb4jh5WQAMfFAz?format=jpg&name=small (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOb4jh5WQAMfFAz?format=jpg&name=small)
Quote
Murdering innocent Ukrainians, including footballers, fans of @FCShakhtar or @DynamoKyiv - THIS IS NOT POLITICS!
These are Ukrainian clubs, not Russian. Destroying stadiums that were built only 10 years for the #EURO2012 is also killing football in this independent country.
https://twitter.com/11vs11art/status/1506164416907202565 (https://twitter.com/11vs11art/status/1506164416907202565)
In all possible way organisations and governments were showing their opposition to the war, but the agressive move of Putin is getting continued. Initially they weren't attacking any of the buildings, in between started to attack the infrastructure of the country. The latest being the kidnapping of children. This is completely unacceptable and against humanity. What does the child know, this will create hate over Russia in their minds and the same lasts forever.

More than 2,300 children ‘kidnapped’ by Russian forces, says Ukraine (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/children-kidnapped-russia-ukraine-war-b2041601.html)


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 23, 2022, 06:40:47 PM

One does not cancel the other. Now all sanctions will be applied, both fair and unfair, effective and ineffective. This is a signal to Russia and the world that such actions as Russia arranged by starting a war with Ukraine are unacceptable in the modern world.



By the way, I read local sports news (Russian) and watch a huge stream of players who, using the permission of FIFA and UEFA to terminate contracts with Russian clubs unilaterally, leave Russia en masse. It seems that club football in Russia in just one season will roll back 20-30 years and subsequently return to a normal level will be incredibly difficult.
But Russia will recover - I am sure all the section are temporary and they will end once the war is over. Russia is a super power. They are unstoppable and they know how to keep allies united. I am amazed how the world has reacted for the first time against war. Have that had happened earlier when other counties were calling for help. This horrible situation would have avoided.
I particularly think of something, I like the style of Russian football, and it also seems to me that training football in Russia is something of another level, because I imagine that they are used to doing it in the middle of the snow, and this is something that puts a lot of power on a physical level to a person, in this case the physical condition, also as it says that football can go back so many years, I hope that is not the case, as long as there is a generation of relief as+i in the streets, new promises can be generated, if not a clear example It's in Brazil, where the best players come out of the streets, like the case of Ronaldo, Roberto Carlos, I believe a lot in the Russian talent for soccer as well as I believe that everything related to the war will pass.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Silberman on March 23, 2022, 08:39:29 PM
here is a cartoon which shows very clearly that the whole football and its infrastructure built for the euro 2012 as well as the whole stadiums will be or were destroyed by the whole war :-\ :-[

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOb4jh5WQAMfFAz?format=jpg&name=small (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOb4jh5WQAMfFAz?format=jpg&name=small)
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Murdering innocent Ukrainians, including footballers, fans of @FCShakhtar or @DynamoKyiv - THIS IS NOT POLITICS!
These are Ukrainian clubs, not Russian. Destroying stadiums that were built only 10 years for the #EURO2012 is also killing football in this independent country.
https://twitter.com/11vs11art/status/1506164416907202565 (https://twitter.com/11vs11art/status/1506164416907202565)
In all possible way organisations and governments were showing their opposition to the war, but the agressive move of Putin is getting continued. Initially they weren't attacking any of the buildings, in between started to attack the infrastructure of the country. The latest being the kidnapping of children. This is completely unacceptable and against humanity. What does the child know, this will create hate over Russia in their minds and the same lasts forever.

More than 2,300 children ‘kidnapped’ by Russian forces, says Ukraine (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/children-kidnapped-russia-ukraine-war-b2041601.html)
In my opinion Russia is getting desperate, they thought they will be able to win the war in under a week and they were unable to do so, this created a whole set of problems they were not expecting that had to do with logistics, which is a key aspect on modern warfare, so they are hitting what the military call soft targets in order to try to diminish the moral of the Ukrainian soldiers and the volunteers, however this can also have the opposite effect and this means the Ukrainian army will  resist the advance of the Russian army in an even more determined way.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: og kush420 on March 27, 2022, 12:06:00 PM
here is a cartoon which shows very clearly that the whole football and its infrastructure built for the euro 2012 as well as the whole stadiums will be or were destroyed by the whole war :-\ :-[

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOb4jh5WQAMfFAz?format=jpg&name=small (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOb4jh5WQAMfFAz?format=jpg&name=small)
Quote
Murdering innocent Ukrainians, including footballers, fans of @FCShakhtar or @DynamoKyiv - THIS IS NOT POLITICS!
These are Ukrainian clubs, not Russian. Destroying stadiums that were built only 10 years for the #EURO2012 is also killing football in this independent country.
https://twitter.com/11vs11art/status/1506164416907202565 (https://twitter.com/11vs11art/status/1506164416907202565)
In all possible way organisations and governments were showing their opposition to the war, but the agressive move of Putin is getting continued. Initially they weren't attacking any of the buildings, in between started to attack the infrastructure of the country. The latest being the kidnapping of children. This is completely unacceptable and against humanity. What does the child know, this will create hate over Russia in their minds and the same lasts forever.

More than 2,300 children ‘kidnapped’ by Russian forces, says Ukraine (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/children-kidnapped-russia-ukraine-war-b2041601.html)
In my opinion Russia is getting desperate, they thought they will be able to win the war in under a week and they were unable to do so, this created a whole set of problems they were not expecting that had to do with logistics, which is a key aspect on modern warfare, so they are hitting what the military call soft targets in order to try to diminish the moral of the Ukrainian soldiers and the volunteers, however this can also have the opposite effect and this means the Ukrainian army will  resist the advance of the Russian army in an even more determined way.
I have seen on instagram that Ukraine witches are making spells on Putin and Moscow is planning hackers attack and they will use the renowed to hack important URLs. Where this war is heading is a serious concern and everyone should be praying for the safety and security of everyone around. 


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: wxa7115 on March 27, 2022, 06:04:11 PM
The bad thing in this history is not that Russia is excluded from all international competitions not only in football, but in almost all other disciplines, but the bad thing is that athletes will lose their classification and experience because the level of play will drop a lot. The motivation for Russian players has always been lacking because they were paid a huge amount of money for any results. And now the quality of their game will decrease even more, because they will only play each other, where everyone has a bad level.
This is no something that I have thought but I think you are right, and not only that, the talented Russian athletes and coaches which disagree with the policies of Putin may have no other option but to leave their country, renounce their citizenship and represent other countries.

Meaning that down the line the war against Ukraine could have effects that could last for decades in the ability of Russia as a nation to complete in international sport events, as their most talented athletes decide to move to other countries.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Theones on March 27, 2022, 08:28:24 PM
The bad thing in this history is not that Russia is excluded from all international competitions not only in football, but in almost all other disciplines, but the bad thing is that athletes will lose their classification and experience because the level of play will drop a lot. The motivation for Russian players has always been lacking because they were paid a huge amount of money for any results. And now the quality of their game will decrease even more, because they will only play each other, where everyone has a bad level.
This is no something that I have thought but I think you are right, and not only that, the talented Russian athletes and coaches which disagree with the policies of Putin may have no other option but to leave their country, renounce their citizenship and represent other countries.

Meaning that down the line the war against Ukraine could have effects that could last for decades in the ability of Russia as a nation to complete in international sport events, as their most talented athletes decide to move to other countries.
I agree with both of you. The mental health and the active mind is the strength of an athlete and a sportsman. I am very sure it will go a very long. Most of the time we are unable to even think what are going to be after affect of the decision made today. War is a curse - it linger longer than the predicted time frame



The bad thing in this history is not that Russia is excluded from all international competitions not only in football, but in almost all other disciplines, but the bad thing is that athletes will lose their classification and experience because the level of play will drop a lot. The motivation for Russian players has always been lacking because they were paid a huge amount of money for any results. And now the quality of their game will decrease even more, because they will only play each other, where everyone has a bad level.
This is no something that I have thought but I think you are right, and not only that, the talented Russian athletes and coaches which disagree with the policies of Putin may have no other option but to leave their country, renounce their citizenship and represent other countries.

Meaning that down the line the war against Ukraine could have effects that could last for decades in the ability of Russia as a nation to complete in international sport events, as their most talented athletes decide to move to other countries.
A week before my local news channel broadcasted that many Russians flee from the country as they feel their future has been doomed. Tough time for both the side. Ukraine has been bombarded by the Russians. While Russians were bombarded by the world with the sanctions. The loss is unrepairable for both the parties.

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Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: AakZaki on March 28, 2022, 05:54:35 PM
~snip~

Meaning that down the line the war against Ukraine could have effects that could last for decades in the ability of Russia as a nation to complete in international sport events, as their most talented athletes decide to move to other countries.
Maybe it's an alternative to the Russian altlets, but are they accepted to move countries? I didn't even get any new news when the war would end. Putin certainly knows the risks he will have. So Putin should have prepared a move to keep respecting the fate of the sportsmen who are there. Although I don't think it can replace the disappointment that sports athletes have been banned from participating in the world championships. If later the war stops they also need time to be readmitted to the world sports event.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Sirait on March 28, 2022, 06:27:26 PM
~snip~

Meaning that down the line the war against Ukraine could have effects that could last for decades in the ability of Russia as a nation to complete in international sport events, as their most talented athletes decide to move to other countries.
Maybe it's an alternative to the Russian altlets, but are they accepted to move countries? I didn't even get any new news when the war would end. Putin certainly knows the risks he will have. So Putin should have prepared a move to keep respecting the fate of the sportsmen who are there. Although I don't think it can replace the disappointment that sports athletes have been banned from participating in the world championships. If later the war stops they also need time to be readmitted to the world sports event.
not only time but also mental because of course athletes from other countries will exclude them as a support for Ukraine. Besides that, the quality of Russian athletes will definitely have a big impact and experience a drastic decline because they haven't competed in a long time. The impact of this sanction is really big.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Polkeins on March 28, 2022, 06:52:12 PM
~snip~

Meaning that down the line the war against Ukraine could have effects that could last for decades in the ability of Russia as a nation to complete in international sport events, as their most talented athletes decide to move to other countries.
Maybe it's an alternative to the Russian altlets, but are they accepted to move countries? I didn't even get any new news when the war would end. Putin certainly knows the risks he will have. So Putin should have prepared a move to keep respecting the fate of the sportsmen who are there. Although I don't think it can replace the disappointment that sports athletes have been banned from participating in the world championships. If later the war stops they also need time to be readmitted to the world sports event.
I don't think he expected such a reaction. In general, apparently for russian elite this reaction was unexpected. It seemed that it would be like in 2014, when some sanctions were imposed, but locally. Neither the Russian elite nor the Russian oligarchs felt those "sanctions" in any way. The only one who felt it then was the people. And now Europe has taken it seriously, so athletes who, like most people, did not know anything about the future special operation also fell under this "skating rink" of sanctions. Now athletes have a choice - either to change their citizenship and country of residence, or wait for it all to end.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Viscore on March 28, 2022, 08:03:27 PM
FIFA must be consistent with regulations like this, if they don't want to include the names of countries attacking other countries because of political problems until a war occurs like Russia, then in the future they must do the same thing. It would be unfair if this was only done for Russia, considering that football should not be associated with politics. If I'm not mistaken, in the past when Israel and Palestine had political problems, FIFA did not take serious action against Israeli football. (CMIIW). So, if this is the first step from FIFA, and the same thing should be done in the future.
FIFA's decision was totally unfair on the side of Russian players because what was going on their country was never their own will, and in fact they were also very affected by the war. Hopefully, FIFA should be more firm and fair in their next decisions and should not end up discriminating the players. I firmly believe that they don't deserve the suspension. What the leader of the country has done has nothing to do with its own citizens.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: TimeTeller on March 28, 2022, 08:09:55 PM
FIFA must be consistent with regulations like this, if they don't want to include the names of countries attacking other countries because of political problems until a war occurs like Russia, then in the future they must do the same thing. It would be unfair if this was only done for Russia, considering that football should not be associated with politics. If I'm not mistaken, in the past when Israel and Palestine had political problems, FIFA did not take serious action against Israeli football. (CMIIW). So, if this is the first step from FIFA, and the same thing should be done in the future.
FIFA's decision was totally unfair on the side of Russian players because what was going on their country was never their own will, and in fact they were also very affected by the war. Hopefully, FIFA should be more firm and fair in their next decisions and should not end up discriminating the players. I firmly believe that they don't deserve the suspension. What the leader of the country has done has nothing to do with its own citizens.

I believe the move of these organizations are also influenced by the call of people worldwide.
So as part of joining the boycott for any Russian-related subjects, they suspend the Russian teams.
We all know that most of these Russian people are not pro-Putin, but people today have this "cancel" culture.
And unfortunately, the athletes are suffering because of the move of their leader towards Ukraine.
Now, I believe some of them will think of getting a different nationality, just for the love of sports.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Tumanggor on March 28, 2022, 08:21:45 PM
I believe the move of these organizations are also influenced by the call of people worldwide.
So as part of joining the boycott for any Russian-related subjects, they suspend the Russian teams.
We all know that most of these Russian people are not pro-Putin, but people today have this "cancel" culture.
And unfortunately, the athletes are suffering because of the move of their leader towards Ukraine.
Now, I believe some of them will think of getting a different nationality, just for the love of sports.
Athletes won't be so easy for to move to another country because they will definitely find it very difficult to leave their families in their hometown

Besides that, the athletes must be equipped with an attitude of love for the homeland, not sports, so I predict that there will be no Russian athletes moving to another country


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Crytpo-Guy on March 28, 2022, 11:01:24 PM
The bad thing in this history is not that Russia is excluded from all international competitions not only in football, but in almost all other disciplines, but the bad thing is that athletes will lose their classification and experience because the level of play will drop a lot. The motivation for Russian players has always been lacking because they were paid a huge amount of money for any results. And now the quality of their game will decrease even more, because they will only play each other, where everyone has a bad level.
This is no something that I have thought but I think you are right, and not only that, the talented Russian athletes and coaches which disagree with the policies of Putin may have no other option but to leave their country, renounce their citizenship and represent other countries.

Meaning that down the line the war against Ukraine could have effects that could last for decades in the ability of Russia as a nation to complete in international sport events, as their most talented athletes decide to move to other countries.
I agree with both of you. The mental health and the active mind is the strength of an athlete and a sportsman. I am very sure it will go a very long. Most of the time we are unable to even think what are going to be after affect of the decision made today. War is a curse - it linger longer than the predicted time frame



The bad thing in this history is not that Russia is excluded from all international competitions not only in football, but in almost all other disciplines, but the bad thing is that athletes will lose their classification and experience because the level of play will drop a lot. The motivation for Russian players has always been lacking because they were paid a huge amount of money for any results. And now the quality of their game will decrease even more, because they will only play each other, where everyone has a bad level.
This is no something that I have thought but I think you are right, and not only that, the talented Russian athletes and coaches which disagree with the policies of Putin may have no other option but to leave their country, renounce their citizenship and represent other countries.

Meaning that down the line the war against Ukraine could have effects that could last for decades in the ability of Russia as a nation to complete in international sport events, as their most talented athletes decide to move to other countries.
A week before my local news channel broadcasted that many Russians flee from the country as they feel their future has been doomed. Tough time for both the side. Ukraine has been bombarded by the Russians. While Russians were bombarded by the world with the sanctions. The loss is unrepairable for both the parties.

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to me isolating Russia from taking part of any international football game is a big blow to the country, it won't be a easy steps for the players, it will make them easily lose focus in playing it will affect their mindset. The Russian's are suffering a unexpected sanction caused by them, they have been isolated from anything international sports both football and other sports, it's also affected their club side sparktak  Moscow they were removed from the Europa league competition, the club side was supposed to be facing Leipzig for the UEFA Europa league round of 16, but they were eliminated from the competition given Leipzig a cleared move to the quarter final of the competition, it's was a disastrous moment for the team. The Russian's needs to look for a way to stop the war, because if this continues the country economy is at stake.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: mrongoz_imut on March 28, 2022, 11:10:05 PM
~snip~

Meaning that down the line the war against Ukraine could have effects that could last for decades in the ability of Russia as a nation to complete in international sport events, as their most talented athletes decide to move to other countries.
Maybe it's an alternative to the Russian altlets, but are they accepted to move countries? I didn't even get any new news when the war would end. Putin certainly knows the risks he will have. So Putin should have prepared a move to keep respecting the fate of the sportsmen who are there. Although I don't think it can replace the disappointment that sports athletes have been banned from participating in the world championships. If later the war stops they also need time to be readmitted to the world sports event.
not only time but also mental because of course athletes from other countries will exclude them as a support for Ukraine. Besides that, the quality of Russian athletes will definitely have a big impact and experience a drastic decline because they haven't competed in a long time. The impact of this sanction is really big.
Before suspended on many sport event games ever Russia play on Olympic without use Russia name after got suspended using their country name and flag, now many athlete got bad mentality because have suspend allowing with many competition. Not only on football but many other athlete have effect with suspended after war invasion between Russia and Ukraine. But I think many athlete keep waiting and looks not any of them have try to complaint what happening with their career have been suspend around the world.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: romero121 on March 28, 2022, 11:49:32 PM
Russia should take some measures to support the sporting people in the country. To increase the usage of Rubles it tried a way, and it was good for them against the fall of ruble value. Most of the sports people will be practicing to meet international events. With the suspension of Russia from majority of the sports events the players won't be able to make themselves strong. So, as a support Russia need to think of conducting more events within the country so to keep themselves prepared and not to let the players down.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Fundamentals Of on March 29, 2022, 03:38:28 AM
Russia should take some measures to support the sporting people in the country. To increase the usage of Rubles it tried a way, and it was good for them against the fall of ruble value. Most of the sports people will be practicing to meet international events. With the suspension of Russia from majority of the sports events the players won't be able to make themselves strong. So, as a support Russia need to think of conducting more events within the country so to keep themselves prepared and not to let the players down.

I agree. The sports agencies in Russia should find a way for their athletes to be kept busy and on the top of their form despite the ban on them from many leagues. They would either hold local sports events or look for events and other sports leagues which don't ban Russian players.

I'm afraid this ban on Russian players will take some time because it seems their government's plan to take Ukraine is not rolling out according to plan. It is either they demand or put pressure to their government to stop it or they will slowly lose their athletic power for being inactive.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Shasha80 on March 29, 2022, 04:06:13 AM
Russia should take some measures to support the sporting people in the country. To increase the usage of Rubles it tried a way, and it was good for them against the fall of ruble value. Most of the sports people will be practicing to meet international events. With the suspension of Russia from majority of the sports events the players won't be able to make themselves strong. So, as a support Russia need to think of conducting more events within the country so to keep themselves prepared and not to let the players down.

I agree. The sports agencies in Russia should find a way for their athletes to be kept busy and on the top of their form despite the ban on them from many leagues. They would either hold local sports events or look for events and other sports leagues which don't ban Russian players.

I'm afraid this ban on Russian players will take some time because it seems their government's plan to take Ukraine is not rolling out according to plan. It is either they demand or put pressure to their government to stop it or they will slowly lose their athletic power for being inactive.

This is why war has always harmed civil society, including Russian sportsmen being banned from playing in all European competitions. It is not only
the performance of Russian athletes that will decline due to not being able to take part in international competitions, but their mentality must also
be affected. Moreover, there is no sign that the war will end in the near future. So it's better as you say sports institutions in Russia should find
a solution regarding this problem. It could also be by holding a competition on a local scale, but this is only a short-term solution. What was
more effective was that all the Russian athletes tried to persuade the Russian government to stop the war, but I don't think the Russian government
will listen to opinions from anywhere until its goals are achieved. Although I am not a Russian citizen, but I can feel the frustration of Russian
athletes right now.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Fundamentals Of on March 30, 2022, 01:36:04 AM
Russia should take some measures to support the sporting people in the country. To increase the usage of Rubles it tried a way, and it was good for them against the fall of ruble value. Most of the sports people will be practicing to meet international events. With the suspension of Russia from majority of the sports events the players won't be able to make themselves strong. So, as a support Russia need to think of conducting more events within the country so to keep themselves prepared and not to let the players down.

I agree. The sports agencies in Russia should find a way for their athletes to be kept busy and on the top of their form despite the ban on them from many leagues. They would either hold local sports events or look for events and other sports leagues which don't ban Russian players.

I'm afraid this ban on Russian players will take some time because it seems their government's plan to take Ukraine is not rolling out according to plan. It is either they demand or put pressure to their government to stop it or they will slowly lose their athletic power for being inactive.

This is why war has always harmed civil society, including Russian sportsmen being banned from playing in all European competitions. It is not only
the performance of Russian athletes that will decline due to not being able to take part in international competitions, but their mentality must also
be affected. Moreover, there is no sign that the war will end in the near future. So it's better as you say sports institutions in Russia should find
a solution regarding this problem. It could also be by holding a competition on a local scale, but this is only a short-term solution. What was
more effective was that all the Russian athletes tried to persuade the Russian government to stop the war, but I don't think the Russian government
will listen to opinions from anywhere until its goals are achieved. Although I am not a Russian citizen, but I can feel the frustration of Russian
athletes right now.

It is very sad that of all those who are affected by the effects of the war, the innocent people are the ones who suffered the most. The ordinary Russians are the ones who are at the receiving end of the economic sanctions, sports sanctions, etc. The ordinary Russian families are the ones who are losing livelihood, money, and even sons, husbands, fathers, and brothers because of the war being waged by the few powerful people at the top. What do these ordinary people have to gain? Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

Russian teams, players, sports leagues, and all sports federations should come up with a single and loud voice to denounce the war and demand that their leaders put a stop to it.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Sithara007 on March 30, 2022, 02:16:19 AM
Russia should take some measures to support the sporting people in the country. To increase the usage of Rubles it tried a way, and it was good for them against the fall of ruble value. Most of the sports people will be practicing to meet international events. With the suspension of Russia from majority of the sports events the players won't be able to make themselves strong. So, as a support Russia need to think of conducting more events within the country so to keep themselves prepared and not to let the players down.

The ongoing military operation is likely to eat up tens of billions (if not hundreds of billions) of USD worth of funds from the Russian treasury. At this point, it may not be economically feasible for the Russian government to support the sports personnel in a big way. On top of that, there are international sanctions which may make life hard for the athletes. They may face difficulty in securing supplements and training equipment. Anyway, the good news is that talks are progressing well and within a few weeks we may hear about a ceasefire.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Sebas.tian on March 30, 2022, 12:18:29 PM
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Russia should take some measures to support the sporting people in the country. To increase the usage of Rubles it tried a way, and it was good for them against the fall of ruble value. Most of the sports people will be practicing to meet international events. With the suspension of Russia from majority of the sports events the players won't be able to make themselves strong. So, as a support Russia need to think of conducting more events within the country so to keep themselves prepared and not to let the players down.

I think they have learned from the war that took place some months ago, that caused the both countries to lose so many sports activities in the land. I believe Russian government will do everything possible within their power to stop this war, so that their sports activities will fully return back to the country for both local and international players to be more active in the areas of sport activities. Some of the Russian international players will not be comfortable with this suspension because they are not use to local competition which will be difficult for them to cope with their local game in the country.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 31, 2022, 04:33:47 PM
here is a cartoon which shows very clearly that the whole football and its infrastructure built for the euro 2012 as well as the whole stadiums will be or were destroyed by the whole war :-\ :-[

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOb4jh5WQAMfFAz?format=jpg&name=small (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOb4jh5WQAMfFAz?format=jpg&name=small)
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Murdering innocent Ukrainians, including footballers, fans of @FCShakhtar or @DynamoKyiv - THIS IS NOT POLITICS!
These are Ukrainian clubs, not Russian. Destroying stadiums that were built only 10 years for the #EURO2012 is also killing football in this independent country.
https://twitter.com/11vs11art/status/1506164416907202565 (https://twitter.com/11vs11art/status/1506164416907202565)
In all possible way organisations and governments were showing their opposition to the war, but the agressive move of Putin is getting continued. Initially they weren't attacking any of the buildings, in between started to attack the infrastructure of the country. The latest being the kidnapping of children. This is completely unacceptable and against humanity. What does the child know, this will create hate over Russia in their minds and the same lasts forever.

More than 2,300 children ‘kidnapped’ by Russian forces, says Ukraine (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/children-kidnapped-russia-ukraine-war-b2041601.html)
In my opinion Russia is getting desperate, they thought they will be able to win the war in under a week and they were unable to do so, this created a whole set of problems they were not expecting that had to do with logistics, which is a key aspect on modern warfare, so they are hitting what the military call soft targets in order to try to diminish the moral of the Ukrainian soldiers and the volunteers, however this can also have the opposite effect and this means the Ukrainian army will  resist the advance of the Russian army in an even more determined way.

You are right, I think that sometimes those who say they are "weak" only pretend to be weak when in fact they are very strong, this is a clear demonstration that things should not be taken for granted when you have great support from a country that does not it allows itself to be defeated, logistics is something that has a great influence, some say that the Russian soldiers are giving up because there is no food for them, they were sent to a war where they cannot even feed themselves, but is this on purpose? Because I understand that Putin is not crazy to make those decisions, the Russian elite forces are not in that invasion, I think he is saving them for a possible confrontation with NATO.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: wxa7115 on April 01, 2022, 06:16:21 PM
~snip~

Meaning that down the line the war against Ukraine could have effects that could last for decades in the ability of Russia as a nation to complete in international sport events, as their most talented athletes decide to move to other countries.
Maybe it's an alternative to the Russian altlets, but are they accepted to move countries? I didn't even get any new news when the war would end. Putin certainly knows the risks he will have. So Putin should have prepared a move to keep respecting the fate of the sportsmen who are there. Although I don't think it can replace the disappointment that sports athletes have been banned from participating in the world championships. If later the war stops they also need time to be readmitted to the world sports event.
I am quite sure that some countries will be willing to adopt Russian athletes as their own, in fact this is not uncommon and unlike some sports even if they had represented Russia before in official events most athletes are still allowed to represent another country due to their own particular circumstances.

And I think that being affected by a war they did not wanted qualifies as one of the circumstances that will allow them to try to represent another country instead of representing Russia as they have being doing so far.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Prosperiousproduct on April 04, 2022, 07:18:48 PM
With all of those suspensions that the Russian teams are getting for every sport just after the sanctions. I'm expecting that there will be more of it and even there are a lot of suspensions that they've received.
I've seen that some of the sports have remained neutral and still allow Russian players to play for their sport. There's the other news a few days ago that FIFA will allow them to play but they won't be under the flag of Russia.
(https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/fifa-to-allow-russia-to-play-on-but-not-under-the-name-russia-1.4813639)
All there are happening because of the war against Ukraine. The Russians has lost a lot already. The sanction place might not affect the players since they will play under another team which is not Russia, just as u said.
That's quite fine at least the Russian players would have a litte chance to join the FIFA indirectly.
I suggest if Russia put a stop  to the war it would make things easier for them. Maybe most sanctions would be lifted, or they may be considered.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: SirLancelot on April 04, 2022, 07:19:01 PM
I am quite sure that some countries will be willing to adopt Russian athletes as their own, in fact this is not uncommon and unlike some sports even if they had represented Russia before in official events most athletes are still allowed to represent another country due to their own particular circumstances.

And I think that being affected by a war they did not wanted qualifies as one of the circumstances that will allow them to try to represent another country instead of representing Russia as they have being doing so far.
They will because those players are innocent. We should not put the blame to the people in Ukraine other than Putin and his team that attacks the Ukraine but the only problem is if they will be allowed to play for other teams because their country was still under the sanctions. Even if we don't want to, I think the idea behind sanctions is to make everybody struggle on that particular country.

The war can end end soon but I don't think the sanctions are also going to wear off so it's still not possible for the Russian athletes to go back in the game. I guess the only way for them to play is to wait again for the next sporting event.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Theones on April 04, 2022, 07:56:36 PM
I am quite sure that some countries will be willing to adopt Russian athletes as their own, in fact this is not uncommon and unlike some sports even if they had represented Russia before in official events most athletes are still allowed to represent another country due to their own particular circumstances.

And I think that being affected by a war they did not wanted qualifies as one of the circumstances that will allow them to try to represent another country instead of representing Russia as they have being doing so far.
They will because those players are innocent. We should not put the blame to the people in Ukraine other than Putin and his team that attacks the Ukraine but the only problem is if they will be allowed to play for other teams because their country was still under the sanctions. Even if we don't want to, I think the idea behind sanctions is to make everybody struggle on that particular country.

The war can end end soon but I don't think the sanctions are also going to wear off so it's still not possible for the Russian athletes to go back in the game. I guess the only way for them to play is to wait again for the next sporting event.
I agree what you have mentioned - but then again it will not be easy to bring forth the athletes to the audience telling them since Russian players are banned so we thought to hire them to play for our country. I believe it has triggered the same frequence of troubles for the Russian as the troubles are made for the ukrainian nationals - may the war soon end.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Viscore on April 04, 2022, 08:37:53 PM
I am quite sure that some countries will be willing to adopt Russian athletes as their own, in fact this is not uncommon and unlike some sports even if they had represented Russia before in official events most athletes are still allowed to represent another country due to their own particular circumstances.

And I think that being affected by a war they did not wanted qualifies as one of the circumstances that will allow them to try to represent another country instead of representing Russia as they have being doing so far.
They will because those players are innocent. We should not put the blame to the people in Ukraine other than Putin and his team that attacks the Ukraine but the only problem is if they will be allowed to play for other teams because their country was still under the sanctions. Even if we don't want to, I think the idea behind sanctions is to make everybody struggle on that particular country.

The war can end end soon but I don't think the sanctions are also going to wear off so it's still not possible for the Russian athletes to go back in the game. I guess the only way for them to play is to wait again for the next sporting event.
The Russian athletes are now starting to suffer the sanctions caused by their very own Putin and they're not allowed anymore to play with other countries. So Putin should be responsible enough to find solutions for this. Otherwise, the athletes will always feel discrimination, and has no choice but to wait for the next sporting event where the sanctions may be lifted by that time. It will be better if they can still play even in local events so that their skills will always be exercised.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: wxa7115 on April 07, 2022, 05:25:29 PM
I am quite sure that some countries will be willing to adopt Russian athletes as their own, in fact this is not uncommon and unlike some sports even if they had represented Russia before in official events most athletes are still allowed to represent another country due to their own particular circumstances.

And I think that being affected by a war they did not wanted qualifies as one of the circumstances that will allow them to try to represent another country instead of representing Russia as they have being doing so far.
They will because those players are innocent. We should not put the blame to the people in Ukraine other than Putin and his team that attacks the Ukraine but the only problem is if they will be allowed to play for other teams because their country was still under the sanctions. Even if we don't want to, I think the idea behind sanctions is to make everybody struggle on that particular country.

The war can end end soon but I don't think the sanctions are also going to wear off so it's still not possible for the Russian athletes to go back in the game. I guess the only way for them to play is to wait again for the next sporting event.
The Russian athletes are now starting to suffer the sanctions caused by their very own Putin and they're not allowed anymore to play with other countries. So Putin should be responsible enough to find solutions for this. Otherwise, the athletes will always feel discrimination, and has no choice but to wait for the next sporting event where the sanctions may be lifted by that time. It will be better if they can still play even in local events so that their skills will always be exercised.
One of the problems with this is that for example an accountant can be an accountant for decades and instead of losing their abilities as an accountant as time passes they instead get better at their job.

But in the world of sports losing a few years can be incredibly damaging to the career of an athlete, and not only that those athletes eventually become coaches as well which train the next generation of athletes, which means those years they could lose due to the war will also affect their future students as they were not allowed to reach all their potential due to circumstances outside of their control, which has the potential of decreasing the overall skill level of the whole country in almost all sports.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: carlfebz2 on April 07, 2022, 08:28:14 PM
I am quite sure that some countries will be willing to adopt Russian athletes as their own, in fact this is not uncommon and unlike some sports even if they had represented Russia before in official events most athletes are still allowed to represent another country due to their own particular circumstances.

And I think that being affected by a war they did not wanted qualifies as one of the circumstances that will allow them to try to represent another country instead of representing Russia as they have being doing so far.
They will because those players are innocent. We should not put the blame to the people in Ukraine other than Putin and his team that attacks the Ukraine but the only problem is if they will be allowed to play for other teams because their country was still under the sanctions. Even if we don't want to, I think the idea behind sanctions is to make everybody struggle on that particular country.

The war can end end soon but I don't think the sanctions are also going to wear off so it's still not possible for the Russian athletes to go back in the game. I guess the only way for them to play is to wait again for the next sporting event.
The Russian athletes are now starting to suffer the sanctions caused by their very own Putin and they're not allowed anymore to play with other countries. So Putin should be responsible enough to find solutions for this. Otherwise, the athletes will always feel discrimination, and has no choice but to wait for the next sporting event where the sanctions may be lifted by that time. It will be better if they can still play even in local events so that their skills will always be exercised.
One of the problems with this is that for example an accountant can be an accountant for decades and instead of losing their abilities as an accountant as time passes they instead get better at their job.

But in the world of sports losing a few years can be incredibly damaging to the career of an athlete, and not only that those athletes eventually become coaches as well which train the next generation of athletes, which means those years they could lose due to the war will also affect their future students as they were not allowed to reach all their potential due to circumstances outside of their control, which has the potential of decreasing the overall skill level of the whole country in almost all sports.
Wont agree about comparing it on jobs or things that doesnt really involved much physique movement where being accountant that had stopped for decades or years would really be just the same.Of course there would be still some mishaps or forgotten details or things but not really that much since you had this job then you could remember it back in a short span of time.

Same goes into those athletes who had been stopped into their training or playing games which would really result on having that idle state which it could indeed make out some effect.

Lets just accept the fact on what are the things happening now yet lots of things would really be affected in line of it.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: KTChampions on April 07, 2022, 08:41:29 PM
The Russian athletes are now starting to suffer the sanctions caused by their very own Putin and they're not allowed anymore to play with other countries. So Putin should be responsible enough to find solutions for this. Otherwise, the athletes will always feel discrimination, and has no choice but to wait for the next sporting event where the sanctions may be lifted by that time. It will be better if they can still play even in local events so that their skills will always be exercised.

The only adequate (and morally correct option in my opinion) is to go to another country and become its citizen or act as an independent athlete. Professional athletes in demand have no problems with this, and if I were such an athlete, I would have left a long time ago  :)
Waiting for some event (normalization of the situation) that does not depend on you is always a bad choice.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on April 15, 2022, 11:01:39 AM
The Russian athletes are now starting to suffer the sanctions caused by their very own Putin and they're not allowed anymore to play with other countries. So Putin should be responsible enough to find solutions for this. Otherwise, the athletes will always feel discrimination, and has no choice but to wait for the next sporting event where the sanctions may be lifted by that time. It will be better if they can still play even in local events so that their skills will always be exercised.

The only adequate (and morally correct option in my opinion) is to go to another country and become its citizen or act as an independent athlete. Professional athletes in demand have no problems with this, and if I were such an athlete, I would have left a long time ago  :)
Waiting for some event (normalization of the situation) that does not depend on you is always a bad choice.

These are the consequences of something that the world does not see, but what are they doing with their attitudes, I know that it is Putin who is acting badly, it is not the athletes, the Russian people are not entirely like him, I do not know, but if they told me that I had to renounce my citizenship no matter how bad my country is, I think I would not do it, just for national identity and not to please the tastes of people who are mostly promoting Xenophobia at a high level, no I am Russian, I only have one friend from my own country who is in Russia, and he tells me that the majority of people there are against this invasion, we and the international organizations have tried to put the Russians very badly, both boycott everything that has to do with them, and I think that is not the way, of course it is my simple opinion, no conflict of any kind is good.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Tellek Garing on April 15, 2022, 11:39:05 AM
The Russian Federation has suffered negatively from the action of just one man Russian President has refused to back down from the war and this is affecting the entire economy of the country now athletes and sportspeople are are being ban from the international community the FIFA ban will cut short the ambition of many players who could have loved to showcase the talent in the world cup.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Boristhecat on April 15, 2022, 03:04:50 PM
The Russian Federation has suffered negatively from the action of just one man Russian President has refused to back down from the war and this is affecting the entire economy of the country now athletes and sportspeople are are being ban from the international community the FIFA ban will cut short the ambition of many players who could have loved to showcase the talent in the world cup.

Wow. One man committed so many crimes! Whose hands are at war? Whose hands are committing crimes against the civilian population of Ukraine (as in Bucha and other settlements)? Was it all done by Putin alone? I am sure that when all this is over, the propagandists (who are now saying on TV around the clock that the Ukrainians are Nazis and that they must be destroyed) will say so. But adequate people understand that it's not just about Putin alone.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: dothebeats on April 15, 2022, 03:57:41 PM
The Russian Federation has suffered negatively from the action of just one man Russian President has refused to back down from the war and this is affecting the entire economy of the country now athletes and sportspeople are are being ban from the international community the FIFA ban will cut short the ambition of many players who could have loved to showcase the talent in the world cup.

Wow. One man committed so many crimes! Whose hands are at war? Whose hands are committing crimes against the civilian population of Ukraine (as in Bucha and other settlements)? Was it all done by Putin alone? I am sure that when all this is over, the propagandists (who are now saying on TV around the clock that the Ukrainians are Nazis and that they must be destroyed) will say so. But adequate people understand that it's not just about Putin alone.

Add in his cronies and those who wants to benefit from this war. There's a lot involved behind the scenes and they just don't want to be where everyone else's attention is. The one to blame will always be Putin, because he's the face of the Russian government for a long time, but I'm sure that he's not alone when he began plotting for the invasion of Ukraine. I'm sure China and NoKor has their hands on deck too, with the support they've been giving Russia on everything except military might.

It's just sad that Russia's athletes are suffering from this war that is the result of the animosity between the West and Russia. Lots of wasted potentials and talents, as they will surely be singled out and isolated from world sporting events that should have been a platform for them to showcase what they can do to the sporting world.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: og kush420 on April 15, 2022, 04:19:39 PM
The Russian Federation has suffered negatively from the action of just one man Russian President has refused to back down from the war and this is affecting the entire economy of the country now athletes and sportspeople are are being ban from the international community the FIFA ban will cut short the ambition of many players who could have loved to showcase the talent in the world cup.

Wow. One man committed so many crimes! Whose hands are at war? Whose hands are committing crimes against the civilian population of Ukraine (as in Bucha and other settlements)? Was it all done by Putin alone? I am sure that when all this is over, the propagandists (who are now saying on TV around the clock that the Ukrainians are Nazis and that they must be destroyed) will say so. But adequate people understand that it's not just about Putin alone.
Today I was watching the news and saw Isarlis attacking people of Palastininen.
Here Russians are killing Ukraninens. What will this ban do when powerful will keep suppressing the weakest. I wish if the powerful leaders show some mercy towards other.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Tellek Garing on April 15, 2022, 09:16:48 PM
The Russian Federation has suffered negatively from the action of just one man Russian President has refused to back down from the war and this is affecting the entire economy of the country now athletes and sportspeople are are being ban from the international community the FIFA ban will cut short the ambition of many players who could have loved to showcase the talent in the world cup.

Wow. One man committed so many crimes! Whose hands are at war? Whose hands are committing crimes against the civilian population of Ukraine (as in Bucha and other settlements)? Was it all done by Putin alone? I am sure that when all this is over, the propagandists (who are now saying on TV around the clock that the Ukrainians are Nazis and that they must be destroyed) will say so. But adequate people understand that it's not just about Putin alone.
Today I was watching the news and saw Isarlis attacking people of Palastininen.
Here Russians are killing Ukraninens. What will this ban do when powerful will keep suppressing the weakest. I wish if the powerful leaders show some mercy towards other.
This is International politics and the powerful will always oppress the weak and that is how the power play has always been right from the time when the global peace and unity were divided after the world war and the cold war, but with sanctions from other global members the powerful nation's can easily be forced to stop their oppressions.

Fifa have done well in my opinion and the sanction will have a strong effect on the Russian nation.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Boristhecat on April 17, 2022, 02:09:12 PM
Wow. One man committed so many crimes! Whose hands are at war? Whose hands are committing crimes against the civilian population of Ukraine (as in Bucha and other settlements)? Was it all done by Putin alone? I am sure that when all this is over, the propagandists (who are now saying on TV around the clock that the Ukrainians are Nazis and that they must be destroyed) will say so. But adequate people understand that it's not just about Putin alone.

Add in his cronies and those who wants to benefit from this war. There's a lot involved behind the scenes and they just don't want to be where everyone else's attention is. The one to blame will always be Putin, because he's the face of the Russian government for a long time, but I'm sure that he's not alone when he began plotting for the invasion of Ukraine. I'm sure China and NoKor has their hands on deck too, with the support they've been giving Russia on everything except military might.

It's just sad that Russia's athletes are suffering from this war that is the result of the animosity between the West and Russia. Lots of wasted potentials and talents, as they will surely be singled out and isolated from world sporting events that should have been a platform for them to showcase what they can do to the sporting world.

Yes, it is very strange not to understand that crimes of this magnitude cannot be carried out without the direct participation of hundreds, thousands and even millions of people. And now, while the war is going on, there is no point in determining who is to blame and who is not - the state of Russia is isolated until the war is stopped and the most high-ranking criminals are put in jail. After that, it will be possible to move on to more detailed assessments of the actions of individuals.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: bitgov on April 17, 2022, 07:50:22 PM
What do you guys think of this development? How will this affect the players and athletes as well as workers in/for the team, how about the forth coming world cup?

In practice, this decision will not affect the organization of the tournament almost at all. Russia wasn't sure if would qualify to the World Cup anyway, so in practice it will look like they just didn't get in.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Rabi3 on April 18, 2022, 11:53:35 PM
What do you guys think of this development? How will this affect the players and athletes as well as workers in/for the team, how about the forth coming world cup?

In practice, this decision will not affect the organization of the tournament almost at all. Russia wasn't sure if would qualify to the World Cup anyway, so in practice it will look like they just didn't get in.
i don't agree with Russia invading Ukraine or any other country invading another, but they used to always say that they need to keep politics out of sports but show the opposite every time, it's not even the fault of Russian players anyways, why ban their whole team ? the correct thing was to keep politics out of sports, play enjoy and let fans watch and enjoy, politics affect everything in the world now.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: muratsink on April 19, 2022, 12:26:35 AM
The Russian Federation has suffered negatively from the action of just one man Russian President has refused to back down from the war and this is affecting the entire economy of the country now athletes and sportspeople are are being ban from the international community the FIFA ban will cut short the ambition of many players who could have loved to showcase the talent in the world cup.


the war that occurred between the two countries had such a great impact that it also affected sports, especially Russian football where the Russian national team and were also prohibited from appearing in European competitions and the world cup, of course everyone did not want to leave the country to fight but we also regret the decision taken by the FIFA with the imposition of sanctions on the Russian national team and also several clubs from the country, thus making them absent from competitions under the auspices of FIFA and also UEFA, although this is very unfortunate but the decisions that have been taken by FIFA cannot be reversed


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Tellek Garing on April 23, 2022, 06:18:37 PM
The Russian Federation has suffered negatively from the action of just one man Russian President has refused to back down from the war and this is affecting the entire economy of the country now athletes and sportspeople are are being ban from the international community the FIFA ban will cut short the ambition of many players who could have loved to showcase the talent in the world cup.


the war that occurred between the two countries had such a great impact that it also affected sports, especially Russian football where the Russian national team and were also prohibited from appearing in European competitions and the world cup, of course everyone did not want to leave the country to fight but we also regret the decision taken by the FIFA with the imposition of sanctions on the Russian national team and also several clubs from the country, thus making them absent from competitions under the auspices of FIFA and also UEFA, although this is very unfortunate but the decisions that have been taken by FIFA cannot be reversed
I think the global sport and other financial institutions should consider the citizens of Russia as most of them are not in support of the war and are in solidarity with the Ukrainians, if the FIFA organizers should ban Rusia from this year round of the world cup it will affect the players more than the president or Russian government.

So in the spirit of humanity and the innocent civilians let global institutions and individuals be linen on the citizens


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: og kush420 on April 24, 2022, 12:19:55 AM
I am quite sure that some countries will be willing to adopt Russian athletes as their own, in fact this is not uncommon and unlike some sports even if they had represented Russia before in official events most athletes are still allowed to represent another country due to their own particular circumstances.

And I think that being affected by a war they did not wanted qualifies as one of the circumstances that will allow them to try to represent another country instead of representing Russia as they have being doing so far.
They will because those players are innocent. We should not put the blame to the people in Ukraine other than Putin and his team that attacks the Ukraine but the only problem is if they will be allowed to play for other teams because their country was still under the sanctions. Even if we don't want to, I think the idea behind sanctions is to make everybody struggle on that particular country.

The war can end end soon but I don't think the sanctions are also going to wear off so it's still not possible for the Russian athletes to go back in the game. I guess the only way for them to play is to wait again for the next sporting event.
The Russian athletes are now starting to suffer the sanctions caused by their very own Putin and they're not allowed anymore to play with other countries. So Putin should be responsible enough to find solutions for this. Otherwise, the athletes will always feel discrimination, and has no choice but to wait for the next sporting event where the sanctions may be lifted by that time. It will be better if they can still play even in local events so that their skills will always be exercised.
Will the other sports federation ban the powerful countries which are killing innocent lives all over the world.  I doubt that - there are other factors which are involved in it. I think - most of the sections are coming from USA to weaken Russia and make it an isolated country.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: RILWAN on April 25, 2022, 09:53:00 AM
What is Russia president don't care about the fifa ban and will even order it citizens not to participate in any global game since their economy is under sanction, I know this is a though time for the world as the Russian invasion of Ukraine comtinues.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: fzkto on April 25, 2022, 10:24:10 AM
The Russian Federation has suffered negatively from the action of just one man Russian President has refused to back down from the war and this is affecting the entire economy of the country now athletes and sportspeople are are being ban from the international community the FIFA ban will cut short the ambition of many players who could have loved to showcase the talent in the world cup.


the war that occurred between the two countries had such a great impact that it also affected sports, especially Russian football where the Russian national team and were also prohibited from appearing in European competitions and the world cup, of course everyone did not want to leave the country to fight but we also regret the decision taken by the FIFA with the imposition of sanctions on the Russian national team and also several clubs from the country, thus making them absent from competitions under the auspices of FIFA and also UEFA, although this is very unfortunate but the decisions that have been taken by FIFA cannot be reversed
I think the global sport and other financial institutions should consider the citizens of Russia as most of them are not in support of the war and are in solidarity with the Ukrainians, if the FIFA organizers should ban Rusia from this year round of the world cup it will affect the players more than the president or Russian government.

So in the spirit of humanity and the innocent civilians let global institutions and individuals be linen on the citizens

It seems Russia have already been suspended from all European competitions and from the World Cup, having cancelled qualifying matches with Poland. I don't know how long such sanctions will last, but I don't think it's fair to the whole country. Russia is not Putin! The whole country regrets what happened and suffers because of one crazy dictator.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: swogerino on April 25, 2022, 11:52:23 AM
The Russian athletes are now starting to suffer the sanctions caused by their very own Putin and they're not allowed anymore to play with other countries. So Putin should be responsible enough to find solutions for this. Otherwise, the athletes will always feel discrimination, and has no choice but to wait for the next sporting event where the sanctions may be lifted by that time. It will be better if they can still play even in local events so that their skills will always be exercised.

The only adequate (and morally correct option in my opinion) is to go to another country and become its citizen or act as an independent athlete. Professional athletes in demand have no problems with this, and if I were such an athlete, I would have left a long time ago  :)
Waiting for some event (normalization of the situation) that does not depend on you is always a bad choice.

These are the consequences of something that the world does not see, but what are they doing with their attitudes, I know that it is Putin who is acting badly, it is not the athletes, the Russian people are not entirely like him, I do not know, but if they told me that I had to renounce my citizenship no matter how bad my country is, I think I would not do it, just for national identity and not to please the tastes of people who are mostly promoting Xenophobia at a high level, no I am Russian, I only have one friend from my own country who is in Russia, and he tells me that the majority of people there are against this invasion, we and the international organizations have tried to put the Russians very badly, both boycott everything that has to do with them, and I think that is not the way, of course it is my simple opinion, no conflict of any kind is good.


There is a big problem with the Russian population which the latest polls (although most probably cheated by Russian state media) tell that 82% of the Russians back what Putin is doing in Ukraine.I don't know about the athletes but most people seem to like him,they are completely devastated the civilians (not the Russian government) by the sanctions yet no one is bold enough to stand up for their rights.I guess Russia is an oppressing country.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Doan9269 on April 25, 2022, 01:07:31 PM
Wow. One man committed so many crimes! Whose hands are at war? Whose hands are committing crimes against the civilian population of Ukraine (as in Bucha and other settlements)? Was it all done by Putin alone? I am sure that when all this is over, the propagandists (who are now saying on TV around the clock that the Ukrainians are Nazis and that they must be destroyed) will say so. But adequate people understand that it's not just about Putin alone.

Add in his cronies and those who wants to benefit from this war. There's a lot involved behind the scenes and they just don't want to be where everyone else's attention is. The one to blame will always be Putin, because he's the face of the Russian government for a long time, but I'm sure that he's not alone when he began plotting for the invasion of Ukraine. I'm sure China and NoKor has their hands on deck too, with the support they've been giving Russia on everything except military might.

It's just sad that Russia's athletes are suffering from this war that is the result of the animosity between the West and Russia. Lots of wasted potentials and talents, as they will surely be singled out and isolated from world sporting events that should have been a platform for them to showcase what they can do to the sporting world.

Yes, it is very strange not to understand that crimes of this magnitude cannot be carried out without the direct participation of hundreds, thousands and even millions of people. And now, while the war is going on, there is no point in determining who is to blame and who is not - the state of Russia is isolated until the war is stopped and the most high-ranking criminals are put in jail. After that, it will be possible to move on to more detailed assessments of the actions of individuals.

I believe football game shouldn't be biased or place under ethnicity segmentation, one thing I know for sure is that football game bring people together from different parts of the globe under the atmosphere of sport and this challenges that is happening to Russia should be a consequence in which their president should bear responsible and not the citizens or it sport organizations, this can happen to any country but when it comes to sport, i see no reason why they should be excluded afterall they are not the perpetrators of the ongoing war.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Davidvictorson on April 25, 2022, 01:15:27 PM
I believe football game shouldn't be biased or place under ethnicity segmentation, one thing I know for sure is that football game bring people together from different parts of the globe under the atmosphere of sport and this challenges that is happening to Russia should be a consequence in which their president should bear responsible and not the citizens or it sport organizations, this can happen to any country but when it comes to sport, i see no reason why they should be excluded afterall they are not the perpetrators of the ongoing war.

This seems unfair to Russia.  They said FIFA and UEFA, political or governance issues are not brought into football.  Even if it's about humanity, why is Russian football being sanctioned?  while not for the state of Israel which invaded Palestine.  and the USA which occupied conflict countries.  I hate war and in the name of humanity, I denounce it.  what the Russians is doing is cruel and barbaric?  What is being done by the USA and Israel is not a noble act?  Why is only Russia is to blame? And why is there always justification for the state of Israel and the USA?


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: KTChampions on April 25, 2022, 01:21:29 PM
This seems unfair to Russia.  They said FIFA and UEFA, political or governance issues are not brought into football.  Even if it's about humanity, why is Russian football being sanctioned?  while not for the state of Israel which invaded Palestine.  and the USA which occupied conflict countries.  I hate war and in the name of humanity, I denounce it.  what the Russians is doing is cruel and barbaric?  What is being done by the USA and Israel is not a noble act?  Why is only Russia is to blame? And why is there always justification for the state of Israel and the USA?

Do you have any arguments besides whataboutism? Russian football is under sanctions because it is part of a criminal country. Maybe in peacetime there will be a more thorough division into those involved and those not involved, but at a time when there is a war, the measures taken are absolutely correct.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Zlantann on April 25, 2022, 01:25:40 PM
Football or sports it a tool for friendship and peace. The Olympics was established after the world war to promote peace and unity among nations. Banning Russia from FIFA competition is very wrong. A match between Ukraine and Russia can promote peace between this nations. The players would be seen hugging each other and exchanging jerseys which would be nice. Also FIFA should be an unbaised organization. Some other countries have even more worst things than Russia and they were not sanctioned.
 


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Boristhecat on April 25, 2022, 08:06:56 PM
Yes, it is very strange not to understand that crimes of this magnitude cannot be carried out without the direct participation of hundreds, thousands and even millions of people. And now, while the war is going on, there is no point in determining who is to blame and who is not - the state of Russia is isolated until the war is stopped and the most high-ranking criminals are put in jail. After that, it will be possible to move on to more detailed assessments of the actions of individuals.

I believe football game shouldn't be biased or place under ethnicity segmentation, one thing I know for sure is that football game bring people together from different parts of the globe under the atmosphere of sport and this challenges that is happening to Russia should be a consequence in which their president should bear responsible and not the citizens or it sport organizations, this can happen to any country but when it comes to sport, i see no reason why they should be excluded afterall they are not the perpetrators of the ongoing war.

If we use your logic, then absolutely all sanctions against Russia must be lifted - after all, people who suffer, including people who have nothing to do with what is happening, right? As a result, this will lead to the strengthening of Russia and an increase in victims (at least for me this is obvious). Are these your proposals, or have I misunderstood you and do you have some other way for Putin to bear responsibility and no one else?


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Gosgosking on April 25, 2022, 08:23:50 PM
Football or sports it a tool for friendship and peace. The Olympics was established after the world war to promote peace and unity among nations. Banning Russia from FIFA competition is very wrong. A match between Ukraine and Russia can promote peace between this nations. The players would be seen hugging each other and exchanging jerseys which would be nice. Also FIFA should be an unbaised organization. Some other countries have even more worst things than Russia and they were not sanctioned.
 

You are absolutely right, sport can also be a tool that can bring this countries together. Other sanctions giving to Russia is enough but I don't support the sport sanction,  I don't support any that will affect the innocent citezen of Russia.  They should face the sanctions directly to the government and not sport men.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Sirait on April 25, 2022, 11:15:13 PM
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You are absolutely right, sport can also be a tool that can bring this countries together. Other sanctions giving to Russia is enough but I don't support the sport sanction,  I don't support any that will affect the innocent citezen of Russia.  They should face the sanctions directly to the government and not sport men.
Although football is not the most popular sport in Russia (popular sports in Russia are hockey and boxing) these sanctions have a very hard impact on talented Russian athletes. based on my conscience, I also don't agree with this sanction and think it shouldn't be experienced by athletes because so far any sanctions imposed on russia have no impact on changing the war between russia and ukraine.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: KennyR on April 25, 2022, 11:29:08 PM
We don't know what is the reality happening within the country or it is the media that is making news out of these two countries. Came across a news in which it is mentioned that more than 65% of the people surveyed have stood in support of Putin.

So many Russians say they support the war in Ukraine. (https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/why-do-so-many-russians-say-they-support-the-war-in-ukraine)

We can't rely on the survey results, because it'll be based on small sample. If this is the representation of the entire population then it needs to be taken into consideration and analysed. Why such a big number is supporting the war which has been causing economic, and life destruction.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Poker Player on April 26, 2022, 03:07:01 AM
I do not agree with the suspension either, as it will surely affect people who are not to blame for the war and do not agree with it, both athletes and spectators. In addition to the fact that it may give rise to a feeling of grievance.

We don't know what is the reality happening within the country or it is the media that is making news out of these two countries. Came across a news in which it is mentioned that more than 65% of the people surveyed have stood in support of Putin.

So many Russians say they support the war in Ukraine. (https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/why-do-so-many-russians-say-they-support-the-war-in-ukraine)

We can't rely on the survey results, because it'll be based on small sample. If this is the representation of the entire population then it needs to be taken into consideration and analysed. Why such a big number is supporting the war which has been causing economic, and life destruction.

Yes, statistics, and more so as in this case, must be taken with a grain of salt. Although I certainly don't find it surprising that support for the war among citizens of Russia is higher than outside the country.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: ipanks on April 26, 2022, 11:23:26 AM
Sport should not have anything to do with regional, political or social issues, but it turns out that, like it or not, sport must be affected as well. This makes athletes or players from Russia subject to sanctions from the federation and makes it difficult for players to be able to return to compete with their teams. War makes everyone who is not related to the war be affected and get the same as those involved in the war.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: KTChampions on April 26, 2022, 07:47:25 PM
We don't know what is the reality happening within the country or it is the media that is making news out of these two countries. Came across a news in which it is mentioned that more than 65% of the people surveyed have stood in support of Putin.

So many Russians say they support the war in Ukraine. (https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/why-do-so-many-russians-say-they-support-the-war-in-ukraine)

We can't rely on the survey results, because it'll be based on small sample. If this is the representation of the entire population then it needs to be taken into consideration and analysed. Why such a big number is supporting the war which has been causing economic, and life destruction.

In fact, any polls in a dictatorship have zero information content and value. I'm from Russia and we have a lot of laws under which you can go to jail for words or literally for a thought crime (when it seems to the police that you thought badly about something), so few people will honestly express their opinion in any poll. But the fact that many crimes are committed not by the hands of Putin, but by thousands and hundreds of thousands of performers is a fact.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Fortify on April 26, 2022, 08:05:10 PM
I do not agree with the suspension either, as it will surely affect people who are not to blame for the war and do not agree with it, both athletes and spectators. In addition to the fact that it may give rise to a feeling of grievance.

We don't know what is the reality happening within the country or it is the media that is making news out of these two countries. Came across a news in which it is mentioned that more than 65% of the people surveyed have stood in support of Putin.

So many Russians say they support the war in Ukraine. (https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/why-do-so-many-russians-say-they-support-the-war-in-ukraine)

We can't rely on the survey results, because it'll be based on small sample. If this is the representation of the entire population then it needs to be taken into consideration and analysed. Why such a big number is supporting the war which has been causing economic, and life destruction.

Yes, statistics, and more so as in this case, must be taken with a grain of salt. Although I certainly don't find it surprising that support for the war among citizens of Russia is higher than outside the country.

Unfortunately the leader of Russia decided to start the biggest war in Europe since WW2, so we're in rather unprecedented times and it may actually be right for such actions to take place. There is also a logistical angle to this that is easily overlooked - all flights out of Russia across European countries are currently banned, which would make it a nightmare for the athletes and supporting sports staff to effectively function. So even if these players were not banned outright, they would pretty much be indirectly banned because it would likely not be worth the long route in. The same goes for the financial and banking infrastructure that they use - funding will be heavily affected because Russia is so cut off after starting this war.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Lanatsa on April 26, 2022, 09:56:23 PM
I do not agree with the suspension either, as it will surely affect people who are not to blame for the war and do not agree with it, both athletes and spectators. In addition to the fact that it may give rise to a feeling of grievance.

We don't know what is the reality happening within the country or it is the media that is making news out of these two countries. Came across a news in which it is mentioned that more than 65% of the people surveyed have stood in support of Putin.

So many Russians say they support the war in Ukraine. (https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/why-do-so-many-russians-say-they-support-the-war-in-ukraine)

We can't rely on the survey results, because it'll be based on small sample. If this is the representation of the entire population then it needs to be taken into consideration and analysed. Why such a big number is supporting the war which has been causing economic, and life destruction.

Yes, statistics, and more so as in this case, must be taken with a grain of salt. Although I certainly don't find it surprising that support for the war among citizens of Russia is higher than outside the country.

Unfortunately the leader of Russia decided to start the biggest war in Europe since WW2, so we're in rather unprecedented times and it may actually be right for such actions to take place. There is also a logistical angle to this that is easily overlooked - all flights out of Russia across European countries are currently banned, which would make it a nightmare for the athletes and supporting sports staff to effectively function. So even if these players were not banned outright, they would pretty much be indirectly banned because it would likely not be worth the long route in. The same goes for the financial and banking infrastructure that they use - funding will be heavily affected because Russia is so cut off after starting this war.
Lots of things had been affected and its true that even they arent directly the ones who had been banned but the services and other things correlated to Russian gov't or economy would really be having that kind of

problem and with that transportation alone then it would really bring up a big hassle for those people who are really needing to travel and since you are having that kind of nationality then its not surprising that there

might be some difference in terms of treatment or something like that.Bad impressions been applied generally which i could say that it isnt that ethical.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Jasad on April 26, 2022, 10:35:21 PM
Sport should not have anything to do with regional, political or social issues, but it turns out that, like it or not, sport must be affected as well. This makes athletes or players from Russia subject to sanctions from the federation and makes it difficult for players to be able to return to compete with their teams. War makes everyone who is not related to the war be affected and get the same as those involved in the war.
Have except with Russia country only but when other countries like United State and Israel make invasion to other countries FIFA and UEFA have blind not care with suspend for both countries. How many countries destroy by United State almost ten years before from Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan but Sport community keep blind with invasion did by them, now when Russia have excepted and most faster giving suspend until they can't play on World Cup play off round.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: blockman on April 26, 2022, 11:21:14 PM
We don't know what is the reality happening within the country or it is the media that is making news out of these two countries. Came across a news in which it is mentioned that more than 65% of the people surveyed have stood in support of Putin.

So many Russians say they support the war in Ukraine. (https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/why-do-so-many-russians-say-they-support-the-war-in-ukraine)

We can't rely on the survey results, because it'll be based on small sample. If this is the representation of the entire population then it needs to be taken into consideration and analysed. Why such a big number is supporting the war which has been causing economic, and life destruction.
AFAIK, the majority of the Russian citizens don't want to have war with Ukraine, and those that oppose the country's decision and stand against them, they're being jailed.
Hear it out from a Ukrainian that's been affected by the war and it's really sad that they are in that situation because they're in a defensive form while Russia keeps on attacking.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: kawetsriyanto on April 26, 2022, 11:39:25 PM
Sport should not have anything to do with regional, political or social issues,
I agree, this should be implemented in sports, including in Football.
The war is related to the government of the country, nothing to do with the society, including the athletes. Sports are for everyone, should be no racism and no limitation for joining any sports field. By suspending the Russian Athletes, we break the rules of everyone's right to join sports. I don't support Russia, I just want everyone to get their right in sports.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: ipanks on April 27, 2022, 11:06:39 AM
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Yes, it was because America seemed to control the two federations so when the United States invaded another country, it was like nothing. It is a concern for all of us to continue to monitor sports bodies such as FIFA and EUFA and advise them that what they are doing is not in the right place. Hopefully, the sporting events can run smoothly and players who have nothing to do with warfare can still play.

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Yes, that's correct. The sports body should have known that what they were doing was not right and was against the rules. But as we know, in sports organizations, there are always hidden political interests so people don't know what's really going on. I think it happens in all sports and has influenced decisions.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: mia_houston on April 27, 2022, 01:12:38 PM
Sport should not have anything to do with regional, political or social issues, but it turns out that, like it or not, sport must be affected as well. This makes athletes or players from Russia subject to sanctions from the federation and makes it difficult for players to be able to return to compete with their teams. War makes everyone who is not related to the war be affected and get the same as those involved in the war.
Have except with Russia country only but when other countries like United State and Israel make invasion to other countries FIFA and UEFA have blind not care with suspend for both countries. How many countries destroy by United State almost ten years before from Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan but Sport community keep blind with invasion did by them, now when Russia have excepted and most faster giving suspend until they can't play on World Cup play off round.
The sanctions that are happening against Russia now seem to have shown us that if FIFA and UEFA have been in America hands all this time, so they will apply double standards to every country they like or not, in just a few days Russia conducts military operations in Ukraine but FIFA and UEFA moved very quickly to give Russia an ultimatum at that time, while on the other hand the crimes that have been committed by America and Israel it seems that FIFA and UEFA have turned a blind eye to these two countries, I even read news recently that the Israeli military was attacking Palestinians who were worshiping fasting in the month of Ramadan, but there is not a single warning made by FIFA and UEFA against Israel at this time  :'( .


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Tellek Garing on April 27, 2022, 09:06:10 PM
Football or sports it a tool for friendship and peace. The Olympics was established after the world war to promote peace and unity among nations. Banning Russia from FIFA competition is very wrong. A match between Ukraine and Russia can promote peace between this nations. The players would be seen hugging each other and exchanging jerseys which would be nice. Also FIFA should be an unbaised organization. Some other countries have even more worst things than Russia and they were not sanctioned.
 
A match between Ukraine and Russia will indeed promote greater peace accord between both countries but at the moment the global environment are angry at the way and manner this invasion has persisted for month now and still counting, but the fifa organization should also try to.look out for other form of peace arrangement for the two countries rather than banning Rusia outrightly.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: dunfida on April 27, 2022, 09:13:13 PM
Football or sports it a tool for friendship and peace. The Olympics was established after the world war to promote peace and unity among nations. Banning Russia from FIFA competition is very wrong. A match between Ukraine and Russia can promote peace between this nations. The players would be seen hugging each other and exchanging jerseys which would be nice. Also FIFA should be an unbaised organization. Some other countries have even more worst things than Russia and they were not sanctioned.
 
A match between Ukraine and Russia will indeed promote greater peace accord between both countries but at the moment the global environment are angry at the way and manner this invasion has persisted for month now and still counting, but the fifa organization should also try to.look out for other form of peace arrangement for the two countries rather than banning Rusia outrightly.
They would go along with the herd which it isnt surprising.If they would go oppose then they might to face some problems or even criticisms but its not really bad to have some reconsideration and wont be ending up

on banning Russian Team just because of the war issues or crisis that we do have as of this moment but it seems that they wont really be showing off too with some sympathy and would tend to decide
and go along on what the majority is really been seeing as of this moment although it do looks not right but there's nothing we could do about it if the organization do made out such decision.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Jasad on April 28, 2022, 08:05:47 AM
They would go along with the herd which it isnt surprising.If they would go oppose then they might to face some problems or even criticisms but its not really bad to have some reconsideration and wont be ending up

on banning Russian Team just because of the war issues or crisis that we do have as of this moment but it seems that they wont really be showing off too with some sympathy and would tend to decide
and go along on what the majority is really been seeing as of this moment although it do looks not right but there's nothing we could do about it if the organization do made out such decision.
Serious crisis when Russia suspend and looks next season all Russia football team can't participants on UEFA Champion League and Europe League competition, still suspend and not official announcement from FIFA and UEFA allow all Russia team can participant on FIFA competition, very sad with Russia football team second team can't play on europe competition and keep focus with domestic league only. I hope FIFA and UEFA fair for allowing back all Russia team can participant on europe league and champion league next season.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: swogerino on April 28, 2022, 08:16:51 AM
I do not agree with the suspension either, as it will surely affect people who are not to blame for the war and do not agree with it, both athletes and spectators. In addition to the fact that it may give rise to a feeling of grievance.

We don't know what is the reality happening within the country or it is the media that is making news out of these two countries. Came across a news in which it is mentioned that more than 65% of the people surveyed have stood in support of Putin.

So many Russians say they support the war in Ukraine. (https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/why-do-so-many-russians-say-they-support-the-war-in-ukraine)

We can't rely on the survey results, because it'll be based on small sample. If this is the representation of the entire population then it needs to be taken into consideration and analysed. Why such a big number is supporting the war which has been causing economic, and life destruction.

Yes, statistics, and more so as in this case, must be taken with a grain of salt. Although I certainly don't find it surprising that support for the war among citizens of Russia is higher than outside the country.

Unfortunately the leader of Russia decided to start the biggest war in Europe since WW2, so we're in rather unprecedented times and it may actually be right for such actions to take place. There is also a logistical angle to this that is easily overlooked - all flights out of Russia across European countries are currently banned, which would make it a nightmare for the athletes and supporting sports staff to effectively function. So even if these players were not banned outright, they would pretty much be indirectly banned because it would likely not be worth the long route in. The same goes for the financial and banking infrastructure that they use - funding will be heavily affected because Russia is so cut off after starting this war.

Russia is going to a be like a second North Korea with what is doing and banning every single Russian civilian seems not right for me although they can't divide who is innocent and who is not.I know there are a lot of innocent Russians but I believe the majority there for real supports Putin invasion of Ukraine after being brainwashed badly by the state media which they believe more than a free source like the Internet.It is only the Russian civilians who can stop the war yet they are suffering enormous consequences like being able to only use ruble as a currency.Athletes are not safe from this too as they are Russians.The football teams also so there is nothing that will change the command of the FIFA and UEFA if the war doesn't stop immediately.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on April 28, 2022, 11:02:19 AM
The Russian Federation has suffered negatively from the action of just one man Russian President has refused to back down from the war and this is affecting the entire economy of the country now athletes and sportspeople are are being ban from the international community the FIFA ban will cut short the ambition of many players who could have loved to showcase the talent in the world cup.


the war that occurred between the two countries had such a great impact that it also affected sports, especially Russian football where the Russian national team and were also prohibited from appearing in European competitions and the world cup, of course everyone did not want to leave the country to fight but we also regret the decision taken by the FIFA with the imposition of sanctions on the Russian national team and also several clubs from the country, thus making them absent from competitions under the auspices of FIFA and also UEFA, although this is very unfortunate but the decisions that have been taken by FIFA cannot be reversed
Although I will always be against any war, I consider that Russia betting the World Cup is something that I do not share, seeing it from the point of view of sport, they did not think about what each Russian athlete feels, there are athletes who have prepared their whole lives for sport and that suddenly they take it that way, how else can they ´earn a living if not with sport?

The RUSSIAN federation is something else, a single man does not represent the whole sport, I think that one of the things that Russian athletes can do is to give him the opportunity to repatriate to other countries and not lose a life full of sacrifice.

I do not agree with the suspension either, as it will surely affect people who are not to blame for the war and do not agree with it, both athletes and spectators. In addition to the fact that it may give rise to a feeling of grievance.

We don't know what is the reality happening within the country or it is the media that is making news out of these two countries. Came across a news in which it is mentioned that more than 65% of the people surveyed have stood in support of Putin.

So many Russians say they support the war in Ukraine. (https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/why-do-so-many-russians-say-they-support-the-war-in-ukraine)

We can't rely on the survey results, because it'll be based on small sample. If this is the representation of the entire population then it needs to be taken into consideration and analysed. Why such a big number is supporting the war which has been causing economic, and life destruction.

Yes, statistics, and more so as in this case, must be taken with a grain of salt. Although I certainly don't find it surprising that support for the war among citizens of Russia is higher than outside the country.

Unfortunately the leader of Russia decided to start the biggest war in Europe since WW2, so we're in rather unprecedented times and it may actually be right for such actions to take place. There is also a logistical angle to this that is easily overlooked - all flights out of Russia across European countries are currently banned, which would make it a nightmare for the athletes and supporting sports staff to effectively function. So even if these players were not banned outright, they would pretty much be indirectly banned because it would likely not be worth the long route in. The same goes for the financial and banking infrastructure that they use - funding will be heavily affected because Russia is so cut off after starting this war.

Russia is going to a be like a second North Korea with what is doing and banning every single Russian civilian seems not right for me although they can't divide who is innocent and who is not.I know there are a lot of innocent Russians but I believe the majority there for real supports Putin invasion of Ukraine after being brainwashed badly by the state media which they believe more than a free source like the Internet.It is only the Russian civilians who can stop the war yet they are suffering enormous consequences like being able to only use ruble as a currency.Athletes are not safe from this too as they are Russians.The football teams also so there is nothing that will change the command of the FIFA and UEFA if the war doesn't stop immediately.
At some point I also thought that Russia would become what it says, a second North Korea, but despite the fact that the Russian news shows as incremental supporters of the invasion, sometimes we have to take into account that the Russian government can manage and manipulate the local media at will and can give the world this type of news, only for Putin to justify that attitude of war, personally, I do not think that most people do not have a heart and take pity and do not want Ukrainians continue to live this nightmare, of course that's what I think, maybe I'm totally wrong, I really hope that the situation for Russian athletes improves and that they don't lose their sports careers, it would be very sad and without a future.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: ipanks on April 28, 2022, 12:06:19 PM
I think if Russian civilians try to stop what Putin is doing, maybe it will be a massive demonstration and it could trigger a war at home, which will impact people's suffering. But Russia will not let civilians do that and he is trying to convince them that what he is doing is not wrong and is all for Russia's glory. In this case, innocent athletes and sports players try to stop them from giving their best performance amid the raging war.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Boristhecat on April 28, 2022, 03:45:27 PM
Russia is going to a be like a second North Korea with what is doing and banning every single Russian civilian seems not right for me although they can't divide who is innocent and who is not.I know there are a lot of innocent Russians but I believe the majority there for real supports Putin invasion of Ukraine after being brainwashed badly by the state media which they believe more than a free source like the Internet.It is only the Russian civilians who can stop the war yet they are suffering enormous consequences like being able to only use ruble as a currency.Athletes are not safe from this too as they are Russians.The football teams also so there is nothing that will change the command of the FIFA and UEFA if the war doesn't stop immediately.

There is no free internet in Russia. There is no complete information blockade yet, but most free resources (like twitter) are blocked and local resources are filled with paid bots that glorify the war around the clock and spread hatred against Ukraine. In fact, for ordinary users who initially do not have broad views and critical thinking (plus a good paid VPN), the Internet in Russia is not much different from a TV.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: mia_houston on April 28, 2022, 03:56:28 PM
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You are absolutely right, sport can also be a tool that can bring this countries together. Other sanctions giving to Russia is enough but I don't support the sport sanction,  I don't support any that will affect the innocent citezen of Russia.  They should face the sanctions directly to the government and not sport men.
Although football is not the most popular sport in Russia (popular sports in Russia are hockey and boxing) these sanctions have a very hard impact on talented Russian athletes. based on my conscience, I also don't agree with this sanction and think it shouldn't be experienced by athletes because so far any sanctions imposed on russia have no impact on changing the war between russia and ukraine.
Actually the purpose of sport is to unite every existing difference, but now with the existence of these sanctions it actually makes many athletes from Russia may be hated by the world community, FIFA and UEFA should not relate what Putin did to Ukraine with football, because clearly indirectly FIFA and UEFA have violated their own words if sports should not be mixed with politics, besides the sanctions that FIFA and UEFA have imposed on Russian athletes have certainly killed their careers as sportsmen.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: famososMuertos on April 29, 2022, 10:36:54 PM
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Actually the purpose of sport is to unite every existing difference, but now with the existence of these sanctions it actually makes many athletes from Russia may be hated by the world community, FIFA and UEFA should not relate what Putin did to Ukraine with football, because clearly indirectly FIFA and UEFA have violated their own words if sports should not be mixed with politics, besides the sanctions that FIFA and UEFA have imposed on Russian athletes have certainly killed their careers as sportsmen.

In reality, all this is an accumulated consequence... an impudence that can no longer be contained, let's start by saying that how is it possible that Russia was allowed to organize the Olympics and the World Cup, when the committees knowing about its regime, He is branded a dictator, not today because of the war, more than 10 years ago, at the time some made noise..

Russia had been accumulating severe sanctions, no more can be let go, I absolutely share the frustration you mention in relation to athletes, but they are consequences of a war.

The collateral effect of a war is sometimes underestimated for its impact but it is also cruel, that sports sanction is one.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Wimex on April 30, 2022, 02:37:04 AM
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What do you guys think of this development? How will this affect the players and athletes as well as workers in/for the team, how about the forth coming world cup?

In recent years there have been numerous social events that have greatly affected the world population, such as the pandemic and natural disasters that are increasing in severity; But these did not stop there, just two months before the start of this 2022 there was a shocking confrontation that managed to put all countries on alert; The combat between Russia and Ukraine caused a resounding change in the economic system in general, but not only that, by creating restrictions on the Russian community, athletes from that country were involved who were preparing for the most important games

The suspension of the Russians to participate in FIFA and UEFA indefinitely is a demotivating event for those athletes who have struggled to get to the position they are in and breaking that dream and effort for politics is somewhat unfair, for Of course I do not agree with this fight against the Ukrainians, but they should not involve the conflicts between governments with these events.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on May 03, 2022, 01:59:43 AM
The Russian athletes are now starting to suffer the sanctions caused by their very own Putin and they're not allowed anymore to play with other countries. So Putin should be responsible enough to find solutions for this. Otherwise, the athletes will always feel discrimination, and has no choice but to wait for the next sporting event where the sanctions may be lifted by that time. It will be better if they can still play even in local events so that their skills will always be exercised.

The only adequate (and morally correct option in my opinion) is to go to another country and become its citizen or act as an independent athlete. Professional athletes in demand have no problems with this, and if I were such an athlete, I would have left a long time ago  :)
Waiting for some event (normalization of the situation) that does not depend on you is always a bad choice.

These are the consequences of something that the world does not see, but what are they doing with their attitudes, I know that it is Putin who is acting badly, it is not the athletes, the Russian people are not entirely like him, I do not know, but if they told me that I had to renounce my citizenship no matter how bad my country is, I think I would not do it, just for national identity and not to please the tastes of people who are mostly promoting Xenophobia at a high level, no I am Russian, I only have one friend from my own country who is in Russia, and he tells me that the majority of people there are against this invasion, we and the international organizations have tried to put the Russians very badly, both boycott everything that has to do with them, and I think that is not the way, of course it is my simple opinion, no conflict of any kind is good.


There is a big problem with the Russian population which the latest polls (although most probably cheated by Russian state media) tell that 82% of the Russians back what Putin is doing in Ukraine.I don't know about the athletes but most people seem to like him,they are completely devastated the civilians (not the Russian government) by the sanctions yet no one is bold enough to stand up for their rights.I guess Russia is an oppressing country.

Yes,. I have seen that news, but you also have to start from the fact that the Russian State maintains control over everything, and that is clearly a manipulation that they can do in the media or on social networks, it is like looking for news in North Korea, or in Venezuela, the local news entities and all their organizations will make people see that everything is fine and that they are happy, the reality for me of the Russian people, although I am not there, is that the majority must be against the war and the invasion, because they know that sooner or later if they attack Russia the ones who will suffer are its inhabitants, the rulers and politicians, it is very easy to leave the country and settle in another, because they have the resources to do so.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on May 05, 2022, 08:32:47 PM
This topic has seemed very interesting to me, because there is something that should be highlighted, the Russian athletes, specifically the soccer players have very good technique, they have improved it remarkably over the years, and although it is not a style as defined as the Germans, Brazilians, I think they were on a very good path despite the whole system of government by which they live. I always like to recognize people's efforts, and I see that Russian soccer players shouldn't stop playing, I don't know if the solution is for them to be nationalized with other countries, but it is preferable so that they don't lose that talent to offer it to the world and At the same time, do not let all the effort that has been made since childhood be wasted.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Smartvirus on May 05, 2022, 08:49:10 PM
reality for me of the Russian people, although I am not there, is that the majority must be against the war and the invasion, because they know that sooner or later if they attack Russia the ones who will suffer are its inhabitants, the rulers and politicians, it is very easy to leave the country and settle in another, because they have the resources to do so.
The truth of the matter is, no one likes war, not even Putin himself who is in the fore front of it. It's not a very enjoyable activity and even the soldiers that were trained for this, they don't find it fun and often wish it could just halt and end. You can tell from the many passionate reunions with there families after spending long weeks or months away from them. The problem is, when people see a reason to fight, they go headlock in for it and its a very bad situation, very bad.
Having to live in your home, not knowing where the next bomb will hight or shooting would start and even, getting to live forcefully to see refuge elsewhere is something very disturbing.

I think they were on a very good path despite the whole system of government by which they live. I always like to recognize people's efforts, and I see that Russian soccer players shouldn't stop playing, I don't know if the solution is for them to be nationalized with other countries, but it is preferable so that they don't lose that talent to offer it to the world and At the same time, do not let all the effort that has been made since childhood be wasted.
It's one thing I noted of them in and after the world cup. I saw a different Russia that did put I there best to represent the country and tried to go far in the cup. I also saw how they expressed there emotions when they got eliminated. The war is taking a lot fro these athletes by keeping them at home, away from a part of there lives that they both love and earn there livelihood. So unfair!


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: KTChampions on May 05, 2022, 09:18:17 PM
One way or another, but UEFA and FIFA made a decision and excluded the clubs from Russia and the national team from all international competitions. At the moment, the richest Russian clubs (like Zenit) have no problems with the composition of the team, but in some others, I heard half the team has already fled because UEFA allowed foreign players to terminate the current contract unilaterally. I think in the summer the rest of the foreign football players (if they are worth anything) will also run away and the local championship will turn into some kind of phenomenal swamp.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on May 12, 2022, 12:50:52 AM
Seeing how things are going and the statements of those who are living in Russia or have relatives living in this situation, if it makes me sad, because they are killing a style of football that had been growing, I am sure that in Russia as in Ukraine There are many promises of football that can give us pleasant moments, but with this war, their future has been truncated, it may be that in order to save themselves, some players will be required to renounce their nationality, some Ukrainian players, the safest thing is that they have lost part of their relatives, and this is something very sad, somehow the war has ended the most beautiful sport in the world.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: asus09 on May 12, 2022, 01:11:28 AM
Seeing how things are going and the statements of those who are living in Russia or have relatives living in this situation, if it makes me sad, because they are killing a style of football that had been growing, I am sure that in Russia as in Ukraine There are many promises of football that can give us pleasant moments, but with this war, their future has been truncated, it may be that in order to save themselves, some players will be required to renounce their nationality, some Ukrainian players, the safest thing is that they have lost part of their relatives, and this is something very sad, somehow the war has ended the most beautiful sport in the world.

The suspension of Ukrainian football, is very unfortunate and will definitely harm the Ukrainian national team, because there are so many talented players in Ukraine who are playing in Europe, if the country continues to suspend the Russian football team, they are slowly killing the talent of the Russian players and clubs, because can no longer play in European competitions, I hope that FIFA and UEFA immediately lift the suspension, sport is an athlete to unite the nation.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Smartvirus on May 28, 2022, 07:23:33 PM
So much has been lost to this on going Russia,  Ukraine invasion. Russia could have made this game beautiful and inturn benefit a lot lot getting to host the UCL finals, generate revenue from tourism and ticket sales amongst other but, the on going war between with the sanctions place on them jus dished all that. It called for a reschedule althoygj all that wasn't of recent but still, we are getting a delayed game following fans arrival and sales of ticket.

I want to be seeing some actions already, my adren :-Xaline is all up as all patience and tension has held up to this moment. I guess other nations would learn from all this and avoid conflict when they can.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: UmerIdrees on May 28, 2022, 07:33:13 PM
Seeing how things are going and the statements of those who are living in Russia or have relatives living in this situation, if it makes me sad, because they are killing a style of football that had been growing, I am sure that in Russia as in Ukraine There are many promises of football that can give us pleasant moments, but with this war, their future has been truncated, it may be that in order to save themselves, some players will be required to renounce their nationality, some Ukrainian players, the safest thing is that they have lost part of their relatives, and this is something very sad, somehow the war has ended the most beautiful sport in the world.

The suspension of Ukrainian football, is very unfortunate and will definitely harm the Ukrainian national team, because there are so many talented players in Ukraine who are playing in Europe, if the country continues to suspend the Russian football team, they are slowly killing the talent of the Russian players and clubs, because can no longer play in European competitions, I hope that FIFA and UEFA immediately lift the suspension, sport is an athlete to unite the nation.

Do you think FIFA and UEFA will lift the ban and allow Russians to participate in big tournaments only because they care about the Russian athletes? Everything is happening about the agenda proposed by the US and they will be happy to keep Russians out of the sports too.
We usually say that politics and sports should remain separate but how often do we see that politics has a great influence on sports.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: swogerino on May 28, 2022, 08:11:27 PM
Seeing how things are going and the statements of those who are living in Russia or have relatives living in this situation, if it makes me sad, because they are killing a style of football that had been growing, I am sure that in Russia as in Ukraine There are many promises of football that can give us pleasant moments, but with this war, their future has been truncated, it may be that in order to save themselves, some players will be required to renounce their nationality, some Ukrainian players, the safest thing is that they have lost part of their relatives, and this is something very sad, somehow the war has ended the most beautiful sport in the world.

The suspension of Ukrainian football, is very unfortunate and will definitely harm the Ukrainian national team, because there are so many talented players in Ukraine who are playing in Europe, if the country continues to suspend the Russian football team, they are slowly killing the talent of the Russian players and clubs, because can no longer play in European competitions, I hope that FIFA and UEFA immediately lift the suspension, sport is an athlete to unite the nation.

Do you think FIFA and UEFA will lift the ban and allow Russians to participate in big tournaments only because they care about the Russian athletes? Everything is happening about the agenda proposed by the US and they will be happy to keep Russians out of the sports too.
We usually say that politics and sports should remain separate but how often do we see that politics has a great influence on sports.

Russia made a completely unjustified invasion of a sovereign country like Ukraine on baseless accusations,it is only normal that they will be a completely isolated state and isolated not only from sport but from economy,technology and everything else.If they don't come to their sense and continue to be absurd and delusional living in their imaginary kingdom where only them are the good guys and all the whole world are bad then this is not going to change.With the passing of years they will stay behind in every major field of life,the only true persons which are suffering already the consequences are the civilians but their government does not care much.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Mahanton on May 28, 2022, 09:45:32 PM
Seeing how things are going and the statements of those who are living in Russia or have relatives living in this situation, if it makes me sad, because they are killing a style of football that had been growing, I am sure that in Russia as in Ukraine There are many promises of football that can give us pleasant moments, but with this war, their future has been truncated, it may be that in order to save themselves, some players will be required to renounce their nationality, some Ukrainian players, the safest thing is that they have lost part of their relatives, and this is something very sad, somehow the war has ended the most beautiful sport in the world.

The suspension of Ukrainian football, is very unfortunate and will definitely harm the Ukrainian national team, because there are so many talented players in Ukraine who are playing in Europe, if the country continues to suspend the Russian football team, they are slowly killing the talent of the Russian players and clubs, because can no longer play in European competitions, I hope that FIFA and UEFA immediately lift the suspension, sport is an athlete to unite the nation.

Do you think FIFA and UEFA will lift the ban and allow Russians to participate in big tournaments only because they care about the Russian athletes? Everything is happening about the agenda proposed by the US and they will be happy to keep Russians out of the sports too.
We usually say that politics and sports should remain separate but how often do we see that politics has a great influence on sports.

Russia made a completely unjustified invasion of a sovereign country like Ukraine on baseless accusations,it is only normal that they will be a completely isolated state and isolated not only from sport but from economy,technology and everything else.If they don't come to their sense and continue to be absurd and delusional living in their imaginary kingdom where only them are the good guys and all the whole world are bad then this is not going to change.With the passing of years they will stay behind in every major field of life,the only true persons which are suffering already the consequences are the civilians but their government does not care much.
Thats the sad part on which the government doesnt really look into their  citizens conditions which is mostly or been highly affected with these sanctions and prohibitions not only limited into certain key areas but in
all possible field that they could really be dealing with.Its all been affected and there's no such thing we could do but do abide on what the majority is really taking action off. We wont really see any changes
until this war would stop and hopefully we would really be seeing for it to happen and completely stop the suffering of those innocent people who had been caught with this crisis which i dont see for it to be
that beneficial in both sides.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: virasog on May 29, 2022, 02:19:05 AM
Seeing how things are going and the statements of those who are living in Russia or have relatives living in this situation, if it makes me sad, because they are killing a style of football that had been growing, I am sure that in Russia as in Ukraine There are many promises of football that can give us pleasant moments, but with this war, their future has been truncated, it may be that in order to save themselves, some players will be required to renounce their nationality, some Ukrainian players, the safest thing is that they have lost part of their relatives, and this is something very sad, somehow the war has ended the most beautiful sport in the world.

The suspension of Ukrainian football, is very unfortunate and will definitely harm the Ukrainian national team, because there are so many talented players in Ukraine who are playing in Europe, if the country continues to suspend the Russian football team, they are slowly killing the talent of the Russian players and clubs, because can no longer play in European competitions, I hope that FIFA and UEFA immediately lift the suspension, sport is an athlete to unite the nation.

Do you think FIFA and UEFA will lift the ban and allow Russians to participate in big tournaments only because they care about the Russian athletes? Everything is happening about the agenda proposed by the US and they will be happy to keep Russians out of the sports too.
We usually say that politics and sports should remain separate but how often do we see that politics has a great influence on sports.

Russia made a completely unjustified invasion of a sovereign country like Ukraine on baseless accusations,it is only normal that they will be a completely isolated state and isolated not only from sport but from economy,technology and everything else.If they don't come to their sense and continue to be absurd and delusional living in their imaginary kingdom where only them are the good guys and all the whole world are bad then this is not going to change.With the passing of years they will stay behind in every major field of life,the only true persons which are suffering already the consequences are the civilians but their government does not care much.

The Russian government made the decision to attack Ukraine but this does not mean that every civilian is agree with this act of terrorism. I am sure none of the Russian football players wanted this war and hence now they are facing the ban and other consequences.
I wish this war come to a peaceful conclusion and everything is back to normal.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: inanilujimi on May 29, 2022, 03:06:49 AM
This topic has seemed very interesting to me, because there is something that should be highlighted, the Russian athletes, specifically the soccer players have very good technique, they have improved it remarkably over the years, and although it is not a style as defined as the Germans, Brazilians, I think they were on a very good path despite the whole system of government by which they live. I always like to recognize people's efforts, and I see that Russian soccer players shouldn't stop playing, I don't know if the solution is for them to be nationalized with other countries, but it is preferable so that they don't lose that talent to offer it to the world and At the same time, do not let all the effort that has been made since childhood be wasted.


But the sanctioners didn't think that way, they tried to get Vladimir Putin to stop the war in a way that made it seem as if all Russians were guilty of the invasion of Ukraine.
It's also sad to see a situation like this that brings political affairs into the realm of sport.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: STT on May 29, 2022, 11:13:37 PM
The war makes no sense, hurts both people I agree and its only going to benefit a few for money reasons is the main incentive I think.   Money and power and the only way to try and prevent further deaths and a war lasting years is constant discouragement which means these people in sport are losing out but its not without reason they make a sacrifice that in some small part contributes to the pressure to stop this pointless war.  I hope this occurs soon, its a loss for all at present.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Sithara007 on May 31, 2022, 02:48:34 AM
Russia made a completely unjustified invasion of a sovereign country like Ukraine on baseless accusations,it is only normal that they will be a completely isolated state and isolated not only from sport but from economy,technology and everything else.
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OK.. agreed. Russia's invasion of Ukraine is not justified and they need to be punished for their actions. But now please tell me what sort of actions were taken against the United States, after they invaded almost a dozen sovereign nations (Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya.etc) during the last two decades? Perhaps these invasions are "good" invasions and only the Russian invasions are "bad"? The law needs to be equal for everyone and we will be making a mistake if we give different treatment for different sides doing the same thing.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Boristhecat on May 31, 2022, 01:34:31 PM
Russia made a completely unjustified invasion of a sovereign country like Ukraine on baseless accusations,it is only normal that they will be a completely isolated state and isolated not only from sport but from economy,technology and everything else.
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OK.. agreed. Russia's invasion of Ukraine is not justified and they need to be punished for their actions. But now please tell me what sort of actions were taken against the United States, after they invaded almost a dozen sovereign nations (Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya.etc) during the last two decades? Perhaps these invasions are "good" invasions and only the Russian invasions are "bad"? The law needs to be equal for everyone and we will be making a mistake if we give different treatment for different sides doing the same thing.

Isn't your question an obvious offtopic and whataboutism? In addition, maybe you will remind what territories the United States captured during these wars? While Russia is constantly stealing everything it can from its neighbors - Moldova, Georgia, Ukraine. The fact that the world is not isolating itself from the US is probably a sign that it agrees with their actions (and you forget that in most of these wars the US had many allies who fought alongside them).


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: swogerino on May 31, 2022, 01:51:54 PM
Russia made a completely unjustified invasion of a sovereign country like Ukraine on baseless accusations,it is only normal that they will be a completely isolated state and isolated not only from sport but from economy,technology and everything else.
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OK.. agreed. Russia's invasion of Ukraine is not justified and they need to be punished for their actions. But now please tell me what sort of actions were taken against the United States, after they invaded almost a dozen sovereign nations (Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya.etc) during the last two decades? Perhaps these invasions are "good" invasions and only the Russian invasions are "bad"? The law needs to be equal for everyone and we will be making a mistake if we give different treatment for different sides doing the same thing.

Only the Iraq invasion was wrong and the US apologized for it although that means nothing after many innocent civilians were killed.The difference with Russia though is that US was only there to find the chemical weapons and once they didn't find them they immediately withdrew their troops,not claiming any territory of the country.They tried their best to not kill 5 months old babies like Russia is doing on a daily basis and they did not shoot down entire cities to ashes like Russia is doing.It is clear who the terrorist country is who live in their absurd reality,only Russia and it is normal to ban every single Russian,athlete,team,singer,actor and any person of any category to take place in International competitions.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on June 07, 2022, 03:56:08 AM
It is difficult to go against the current, when there is an almost "World" government where other countries are complicit in its actions, it is very difficult and it is obvious that there are always political systems and they have a great influence regardless of where they come from. , if you are against them then you have no choice, as I said before I am against any war, but it is remarkable to think that the athletes did not ask their opinion about the invasion because I am sure that their response would be a resounding No, the mistake is to think that the sanctions are going to hurt the rulers, because the sanctions are received by people who have nothing to do with it, so until that is understood it will be very difficult for the world to be different.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: BADecker on June 07, 2022, 03:07:17 PM
It is difficult to go against the current, when there is an almost "World" government where other countries are complicit in its actions, it is very difficult and it is obvious that there are always political systems and they have a great influence regardless of where they come from. , if you are against them then you have no choice, as I said before I am against any war, but it is remarkable to think that the athletes did not ask their opinion about the invasion because I am sure that their response would be a resounding No, the mistake is to think that the sanctions are going to hurt the rulers, because the sanctions are received by people who have nothing to do with it, so until that is understood it will be very difficult for the world to be different.


Let FIFA and UEFA move their headquarters into Russia, and see if anything changes.

You don't need to be popular in the eyes of the world to hold a competition. Russia has all kinds of sports going on within its borders. The only reason we might not know about it is that the media is simply against Russia, right now, and won't show it.

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Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: Prosperiousproduct on June 16, 2022, 10:32:13 AM
Russians are also suffering from what they did and what they are doing, a lot of countries and organizations has banned Russia from from having affairs with them. Because of the war they are fighting against Ukraine. The funniest part is that Russians are not ready to put a stop to the war despite what they are losing day by day. Russians would face a lot of difficulties when they try to go out or have business with other country, because almost everyone has seen them as bad side.


Title: Re: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.
Post by: BADecker on June 16, 2022, 03:24:21 PM
Banning Russia from international sports competition doesn't really mean anything. Why not? Russia is in international sports competition with the war. Why would they even want to play games?

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