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April 28, 2022, 08:05:47 AM
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They would go along with the herd which it isnt surprising.If they would go oppose then they might to face some problems or even criticisms but its not really bad to have some reconsideration and wont be ending up

on banning Russian Team just because of the war issues or crisis that we do have as of this moment but it seems that they wont really be showing off too with some sympathy and would tend to decide
and go along on what the majority is really been seeing as of this moment although it do looks not right but there's nothing we could do about it if the organization do made out such decision.
Serious crisis when Russia suspend and looks next season all Russia football team can't participants on UEFA Champion League and Europe League competition, still suspend and not official announcement from FIFA and UEFA allow all Russia team can participant on FIFA competition, very sad with Russia football team second team can't play on europe competition and keep focus with domestic league only. I hope FIFA and UEFA fair for allowing back all Russia team can participant on europe league and champion league next season.
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April 28, 2022, 08:16:51 AM
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I do not agree with the suspension either, as it will surely affect people who are not to blame for the war and do not agree with it, both athletes and spectators. In addition to the fact that it may give rise to a feeling of grievance.

We don't know what is the reality happening within the country or it is the media that is making news out of these two countries. Came across a news in which it is mentioned that more than 65% of the people surveyed have stood in support of Putin.

So many Russians say they support the war in Ukraine.

We can't rely on the survey results, because it'll be based on small sample. If this is the representation of the entire population then it needs to be taken into consideration and analysed. Why such a big number is supporting the war which has been causing economic, and life destruction.

Yes, statistics, and more so as in this case, must be taken with a grain of salt. Although I certainly don't find it surprising that support for the war among citizens of Russia is higher than outside the country.

Unfortunately the leader of Russia decided to start the biggest war in Europe since WW2, so we're in rather unprecedented times and it may actually be right for such actions to take place. There is also a logistical angle to this that is easily overlooked - all flights out of Russia across European countries are currently banned, which would make it a nightmare for the athletes and supporting sports staff to effectively function. So even if these players were not banned outright, they would pretty much be indirectly banned because it would likely not be worth the long route in. The same goes for the financial and banking infrastructure that they use - funding will be heavily affected because Russia is so cut off after starting this war.

Russia is going to a be like a second North Korea with what is doing and banning every single Russian civilian seems not right for me although they can't divide who is innocent and who is not.I know there are a lot of innocent Russians but I believe the majority there for real supports Putin invasion of Ukraine after being brainwashed badly by the state media which they believe more than a free source like the Internet.It is only the Russian civilians who can stop the war yet they are suffering enormous consequences like being able to only use ruble as a currency.Athletes are not safe from this too as they are Russians.The football teams also so there is nothing that will change the command of the FIFA and UEFA if the war doesn't stop immediately.

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April 28, 2022, 11:02:19 AM
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The Russian Federation has suffered negatively from the action of just one man Russian President has refused to back down from the war and this is affecting the entire economy of the country now athletes and sportspeople are are being ban from the international community the FIFA ban will cut short the ambition of many players who could have loved to showcase the talent in the world cup.


the war that occurred between the two countries had such a great impact that it also affected sports, especially Russian football where the Russian national team and were also prohibited from appearing in European competitions and the world cup, of course everyone did not want to leave the country to fight but we also regret the decision taken by the FIFA with the imposition of sanctions on the Russian national team and also several clubs from the country, thus making them absent from competitions under the auspices of FIFA and also UEFA, although this is very unfortunate but the decisions that have been taken by FIFA cannot be reversed
Although I will always be against any war, I consider that Russia betting the World Cup is something that I do not share, seeing it from the point of view of sport, they did not think about what each Russian athlete feels, there are athletes who have prepared their whole lives for sport and that suddenly they take it that way, how else can they ´earn a living if not with sport?

The RUSSIAN federation is something else, a single man does not represent the whole sport, I think that one of the things that Russian athletes can do is to give him the opportunity to repatriate to other countries and not lose a life full of sacrifice.

I do not agree with the suspension either, as it will surely affect people who are not to blame for the war and do not agree with it, both athletes and spectators. In addition to the fact that it may give rise to a feeling of grievance.

We don't know what is the reality happening within the country or it is the media that is making news out of these two countries. Came across a news in which it is mentioned that more than 65% of the people surveyed have stood in support of Putin.

So many Russians say they support the war in Ukraine.

We can't rely on the survey results, because it'll be based on small sample. If this is the representation of the entire population then it needs to be taken into consideration and analysed. Why such a big number is supporting the war which has been causing economic, and life destruction.

Yes, statistics, and more so as in this case, must be taken with a grain of salt. Although I certainly don't find it surprising that support for the war among citizens of Russia is higher than outside the country.

Unfortunately the leader of Russia decided to start the biggest war in Europe since WW2, so we're in rather unprecedented times and it may actually be right for such actions to take place. There is also a logistical angle to this that is easily overlooked - all flights out of Russia across European countries are currently banned, which would make it a nightmare for the athletes and supporting sports staff to effectively function. So even if these players were not banned outright, they would pretty much be indirectly banned because it would likely not be worth the long route in. The same goes for the financial and banking infrastructure that they use - funding will be heavily affected because Russia is so cut off after starting this war.

Russia is going to a be like a second North Korea with what is doing and banning every single Russian civilian seems not right for me although they can't divide who is innocent and who is not.I know there are a lot of innocent Russians but I believe the majority there for real supports Putin invasion of Ukraine after being brainwashed badly by the state media which they believe more than a free source like the Internet.It is only the Russian civilians who can stop the war yet they are suffering enormous consequences like being able to only use ruble as a currency.Athletes are not safe from this too as they are Russians.The football teams also so there is nothing that will change the command of the FIFA and UEFA if the war doesn't stop immediately.
At some point I also thought that Russia would become what it says, a second North Korea, but despite the fact that the Russian news shows as incremental supporters of the invasion, sometimes we have to take into account that the Russian government can manage and manipulate the local media at will and can give the world this type of news, only for Putin to justify that attitude of war, personally, I do not think that most people do not have a heart and take pity and do not want Ukrainians continue to live this nightmare, of course that's what I think, maybe I'm totally wrong, I really hope that the situation for Russian athletes improves and that they don't lose their sports careers, it would be very sad and without a future.

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April 28, 2022, 12:06:19 PM
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I think if Russian civilians try to stop what Putin is doing, maybe it will be a massive demonstration and it could trigger a war at home, which will impact people's suffering. But Russia will not let civilians do that and he is trying to convince them that what he is doing is not wrong and is all for Russia's glory. In this case, innocent athletes and sports players try to stop them from giving their best performance amid the raging war.



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April 28, 2022, 03:45:27 PM
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Russia is going to a be like a second North Korea with what is doing and banning every single Russian civilian seems not right for me although they can't divide who is innocent and who is not.I know there are a lot of innocent Russians but I believe the majority there for real supports Putin invasion of Ukraine after being brainwashed badly by the state media which they believe more than a free source like the Internet.It is only the Russian civilians who can stop the war yet they are suffering enormous consequences like being able to only use ruble as a currency.Athletes are not safe from this too as they are Russians.The football teams also so there is nothing that will change the command of the FIFA and UEFA if the war doesn't stop immediately.

There is no free internet in Russia. There is no complete information blockade yet, but most free resources (like twitter) are blocked and local resources are filled with paid bots that glorify the war around the clock and spread hatred against Ukraine. In fact, for ordinary users who initially do not have broad views and critical thinking (plus a good paid VPN), the Internet in Russia is not much different from a TV.
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April 28, 2022, 03:56:28 PM
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You are absolutely right, sport can also be a tool that can bring this countries together. Other sanctions giving to Russia is enough but I don't support the sport sanction,  I don't support any that will affect the innocent citezen of Russia.  They should face the sanctions directly to the government and not sport men.
Although football is not the most popular sport in Russia (popular sports in Russia are hockey and boxing) these sanctions have a very hard impact on talented Russian athletes. based on my conscience, I also don't agree with this sanction and think it shouldn't be experienced by athletes because so far any sanctions imposed on russia have no impact on changing the war between russia and ukraine.
Actually the purpose of sport is to unite every existing difference, but now with the existence of these sanctions it actually makes many athletes from Russia may be hated by the world community, FIFA and UEFA should not relate what Putin did to Ukraine with football, because clearly indirectly FIFA and UEFA have violated their own words if sports should not be mixed with politics, besides the sanctions that FIFA and UEFA have imposed on Russian athletes have certainly killed their careers as sportsmen.
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April 29, 2022, 10:36:54 PM
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Actually the purpose of sport is to unite every existing difference, but now with the existence of these sanctions it actually makes many athletes from Russia may be hated by the world community, FIFA and UEFA should not relate what Putin did to Ukraine with football, because clearly indirectly FIFA and UEFA have violated their own words if sports should not be mixed with politics, besides the sanctions that FIFA and UEFA have imposed on Russian athletes have certainly killed their careers as sportsmen.

In reality, all this is an accumulated consequence... an impudence that can no longer be contained, let's start by saying that how is it possible that Russia was allowed to organize the Olympics and the World Cup, when the committees knowing about its regime, He is branded a dictator, not today because of the war, more than 10 years ago, at the time some made noise..

Russia had been accumulating severe sanctions, no more can be let go, I absolutely share the frustration you mention in relation to athletes, but they are consequences of a war.

The collateral effect of a war is sometimes underestimated for its impact but it is also cruel, that sports sanction is one.

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What do you guys think of this development? How will this affect the players and athletes as well as workers in/for the team, how about the forth coming world cup?

In recent years there have been numerous social events that have greatly affected the world population, such as the pandemic and natural disasters that are increasing in severity; But these did not stop there, just two months before the start of this 2022 there was a shocking confrontation that managed to put all countries on alert; The combat between Russia and Ukraine caused a resounding change in the economic system in general, but not only that, by creating restrictions on the Russian community, athletes from that country were involved who were preparing for the most important games

The suspension of the Russians to participate in FIFA and UEFA indefinitely is a demotivating event for those athletes who have struggled to get to the position they are in and breaking that dream and effort for politics is somewhat unfair, for Of course I do not agree with this fight against the Ukrainians, but they should not involve the conflicts between governments with these events.
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May 03, 2022, 01:59:43 AM
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The Russian athletes are now starting to suffer the sanctions caused by their very own Putin and they're not allowed anymore to play with other countries. So Putin should be responsible enough to find solutions for this. Otherwise, the athletes will always feel discrimination, and has no choice but to wait for the next sporting event where the sanctions may be lifted by that time. It will be better if they can still play even in local events so that their skills will always be exercised.

The only adequate (and morally correct option in my opinion) is to go to another country and become its citizen or act as an independent athlete. Professional athletes in demand have no problems with this, and if I were such an athlete, I would have left a long time ago  Smiley
Waiting for some event (normalization of the situation) that does not depend on you is always a bad choice.

These are the consequences of something that the world does not see, but what are they doing with their attitudes, I know that it is Putin who is acting badly, it is not the athletes, the Russian people are not entirely like him, I do not know, but if they told me that I had to renounce my citizenship no matter how bad my country is, I think I would not do it, just for national identity and not to please the tastes of people who are mostly promoting Xenophobia at a high level, no I am Russian, I only have one friend from my own country who is in Russia, and he tells me that the majority of people there are against this invasion, we and the international organizations have tried to put the Russians very badly, both boycott everything that has to do with them, and I think that is not the way, of course it is my simple opinion, no conflict of any kind is good.


There is a big problem with the Russian population which the latest polls (although most probably cheated by Russian state media) tell that 82% of the Russians back what Putin is doing in Ukraine.I don't know about the athletes but most people seem to like him,they are completely devastated the civilians (not the Russian government) by the sanctions yet no one is bold enough to stand up for their rights.I guess Russia is an oppressing country.

Yes,. I have seen that news, but you also have to start from the fact that the Russian State maintains control over everything, and that is clearly a manipulation that they can do in the media or on social networks, it is like looking for news in North Korea, or in Venezuela, the local news entities and all their organizations will make people see that everything is fine and that they are happy, the reality for me of the Russian people, although I am not there, is that the majority must be against the war and the invasion, because they know that sooner or later if they attack Russia the ones who will suffer are its inhabitants, the rulers and politicians, it is very easy to leave the country and settle in another, because they have the resources to do so.

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This topic has seemed very interesting to me, because there is something that should be highlighted, the Russian athletes, specifically the soccer players have very good technique, they have improved it remarkably over the years, and although it is not a style as defined as the Germans, Brazilians, I think they were on a very good path despite the whole system of government by which they live. I always like to recognize people's efforts, and I see that Russian soccer players shouldn't stop playing, I don't know if the solution is for them to be nationalized with other countries, but it is preferable so that they don't lose that talent to offer it to the world and At the same time, do not let all the effort that has been made since childhood be wasted.

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May 05, 2022, 08:49:10 PM
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reality for me of the Russian people, although I am not there, is that the majority must be against the war and the invasion, because they know that sooner or later if they attack Russia the ones who will suffer are its inhabitants, the rulers and politicians, it is very easy to leave the country and settle in another, because they have the resources to do so.
The truth of the matter is, no one likes war, not even Putin himself who is in the fore front of it. It's not a very enjoyable activity and even the soldiers that were trained for this, they don't find it fun and often wish it could just halt and end. You can tell from the many passionate reunions with there families after spending long weeks or months away from them. The problem is, when people see a reason to fight, they go headlock in for it and its a very bad situation, very bad.
Having to live in your home, not knowing where the next bomb will hight or shooting would start and even, getting to live forcefully to see refuge elsewhere is something very disturbing.

I think they were on a very good path despite the whole system of government by which they live. I always like to recognize people's efforts, and I see that Russian soccer players shouldn't stop playing, I don't know if the solution is for them to be nationalized with other countries, but it is preferable so that they don't lose that talent to offer it to the world and At the same time, do not let all the effort that has been made since childhood be wasted.
It's one thing I noted of them in and after the world cup. I saw a different Russia that did put I there best to represent the country and tried to go far in the cup. I also saw how they expressed there emotions when they got eliminated. The war is taking a lot fro these athletes by keeping them at home, away from a part of there lives that they both love and earn there livelihood. So unfair!
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One way or another, but UEFA and FIFA made a decision and excluded the clubs from Russia and the national team from all international competitions. At the moment, the richest Russian clubs (like Zenit) have no problems with the composition of the team, but in some others, I heard half the team has already fled because UEFA allowed foreign players to terminate the current contract unilaterally. I think in the summer the rest of the foreign football players (if they are worth anything) will also run away and the local championship will turn into some kind of phenomenal swamp.

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Seeing how things are going and the statements of those who are living in Russia or have relatives living in this situation, if it makes me sad, because they are killing a style of football that had been growing, I am sure that in Russia as in Ukraine There are many promises of football that can give us pleasant moments, but with this war, their future has been truncated, it may be that in order to save themselves, some players will be required to renounce their nationality, some Ukrainian players, the safest thing is that they have lost part of their relatives, and this is something very sad, somehow the war has ended the most beautiful sport in the world.

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Seeing how things are going and the statements of those who are living in Russia or have relatives living in this situation, if it makes me sad, because they are killing a style of football that had been growing, I am sure that in Russia as in Ukraine There are many promises of football that can give us pleasant moments, but with this war, their future has been truncated, it may be that in order to save themselves, some players will be required to renounce their nationality, some Ukrainian players, the safest thing is that they have lost part of their relatives, and this is something very sad, somehow the war has ended the most beautiful sport in the world.

The suspension of Ukrainian football, is very unfortunate and will definitely harm the Ukrainian national team, because there are so many talented players in Ukraine who are playing in Europe, if the country continues to suspend the Russian football team, they are slowly killing the talent of the Russian players and clubs, because can no longer play in European competitions, I hope that FIFA and UEFA immediately lift the suspension, sport is an athlete to unite the nation.

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May 28, 2022, 07:23:33 PM
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So much has been lost to this on going Russia,  Ukraine invasion. Russia could have made this game beautiful and inturn benefit a lot lot getting to host the UCL finals, generate revenue from tourism and ticket sales amongst other but, the on going war between with the sanctions place on them jus dished all that. It called for a reschedule althoygj all that wasn't of recent but still, we are getting a delayed game following fans arrival and sales of ticket.

I want to be seeing some actions already, my adren :-Xaline is all up as all patience and tension has held up to this moment. I guess other nations would learn from all this and avoid conflict when they can.
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Seeing how things are going and the statements of those who are living in Russia or have relatives living in this situation, if it makes me sad, because they are killing a style of football that had been growing, I am sure that in Russia as in Ukraine There are many promises of football that can give us pleasant moments, but with this war, their future has been truncated, it may be that in order to save themselves, some players will be required to renounce their nationality, some Ukrainian players, the safest thing is that they have lost part of their relatives, and this is something very sad, somehow the war has ended the most beautiful sport in the world.

The suspension of Ukrainian football, is very unfortunate and will definitely harm the Ukrainian national team, because there are so many talented players in Ukraine who are playing in Europe, if the country continues to suspend the Russian football team, they are slowly killing the talent of the Russian players and clubs, because can no longer play in European competitions, I hope that FIFA and UEFA immediately lift the suspension, sport is an athlete to unite the nation.

Do you think FIFA and UEFA will lift the ban and allow Russians to participate in big tournaments only because they care about the Russian athletes? Everything is happening about the agenda proposed by the US and they will be happy to keep Russians out of the sports too.
We usually say that politics and sports should remain separate but how often do we see that politics has a great influence on sports.

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May 28, 2022, 08:11:27 PM
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Seeing how things are going and the statements of those who are living in Russia or have relatives living in this situation, if it makes me sad, because they are killing a style of football that had been growing, I am sure that in Russia as in Ukraine There are many promises of football that can give us pleasant moments, but with this war, their future has been truncated, it may be that in order to save themselves, some players will be required to renounce their nationality, some Ukrainian players, the safest thing is that they have lost part of their relatives, and this is something very sad, somehow the war has ended the most beautiful sport in the world.

The suspension of Ukrainian football, is very unfortunate and will definitely harm the Ukrainian national team, because there are so many talented players in Ukraine who are playing in Europe, if the country continues to suspend the Russian football team, they are slowly killing the talent of the Russian players and clubs, because can no longer play in European competitions, I hope that FIFA and UEFA immediately lift the suspension, sport is an athlete to unite the nation.

Do you think FIFA and UEFA will lift the ban and allow Russians to participate in big tournaments only because they care about the Russian athletes? Everything is happening about the agenda proposed by the US and they will be happy to keep Russians out of the sports too.
We usually say that politics and sports should remain separate but how often do we see that politics has a great influence on sports.

Russia made a completely unjustified invasion of a sovereign country like Ukraine on baseless accusations,it is only normal that they will be a completely isolated state and isolated not only from sport but from economy,technology and everything else.If they don't come to their sense and continue to be absurd and delusional living in their imaginary kingdom where only them are the good guys and all the whole world are bad then this is not going to change.With the passing of years they will stay behind in every major field of life,the only true persons which are suffering already the consequences are the civilians but their government does not care much.

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Seeing how things are going and the statements of those who are living in Russia or have relatives living in this situation, if it makes me sad, because they are killing a style of football that had been growing, I am sure that in Russia as in Ukraine There are many promises of football that can give us pleasant moments, but with this war, their future has been truncated, it may be that in order to save themselves, some players will be required to renounce their nationality, some Ukrainian players, the safest thing is that they have lost part of their relatives, and this is something very sad, somehow the war has ended the most beautiful sport in the world.

The suspension of Ukrainian football, is very unfortunate and will definitely harm the Ukrainian national team, because there are so many talented players in Ukraine who are playing in Europe, if the country continues to suspend the Russian football team, they are slowly killing the talent of the Russian players and clubs, because can no longer play in European competitions, I hope that FIFA and UEFA immediately lift the suspension, sport is an athlete to unite the nation.

Do you think FIFA and UEFA will lift the ban and allow Russians to participate in big tournaments only because they care about the Russian athletes? Everything is happening about the agenda proposed by the US and they will be happy to keep Russians out of the sports too.
We usually say that politics and sports should remain separate but how often do we see that politics has a great influence on sports.

Russia made a completely unjustified invasion of a sovereign country like Ukraine on baseless accusations,it is only normal that they will be a completely isolated state and isolated not only from sport but from economy,technology and everything else.If they don't come to their sense and continue to be absurd and delusional living in their imaginary kingdom where only them are the good guys and all the whole world are bad then this is not going to change.With the passing of years they will stay behind in every major field of life,the only true persons which are suffering already the consequences are the civilians but their government does not care much.
Thats the sad part on which the government doesnt really look into their  citizens conditions which is mostly or been highly affected with these sanctions and prohibitions not only limited into certain key areas but in
all possible field that they could really be dealing with.Its all been affected and there's no such thing we could do but do abide on what the majority is really taking action off. We wont really see any changes
until this war would stop and hopefully we would really be seeing for it to happen and completely stop the suffering of those innocent people who had been caught with this crisis which i dont see for it to be
that beneficial in both sides.

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May 29, 2022, 02:19:05 AM
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Seeing how things are going and the statements of those who are living in Russia or have relatives living in this situation, if it makes me sad, because they are killing a style of football that had been growing, I am sure that in Russia as in Ukraine There are many promises of football that can give us pleasant moments, but with this war, their future has been truncated, it may be that in order to save themselves, some players will be required to renounce their nationality, some Ukrainian players, the safest thing is that they have lost part of their relatives, and this is something very sad, somehow the war has ended the most beautiful sport in the world.

The suspension of Ukrainian football, is very unfortunate and will definitely harm the Ukrainian national team, because there are so many talented players in Ukraine who are playing in Europe, if the country continues to suspend the Russian football team, they are slowly killing the talent of the Russian players and clubs, because can no longer play in European competitions, I hope that FIFA and UEFA immediately lift the suspension, sport is an athlete to unite the nation.

Do you think FIFA and UEFA will lift the ban and allow Russians to participate in big tournaments only because they care about the Russian athletes? Everything is happening about the agenda proposed by the US and they will be happy to keep Russians out of the sports too.
We usually say that politics and sports should remain separate but how often do we see that politics has a great influence on sports.

Russia made a completely unjustified invasion of a sovereign country like Ukraine on baseless accusations,it is only normal that they will be a completely isolated state and isolated not only from sport but from economy,technology and everything else.If they don't come to their sense and continue to be absurd and delusional living in their imaginary kingdom where only them are the good guys and all the whole world are bad then this is not going to change.With the passing of years they will stay behind in every major field of life,the only true persons which are suffering already the consequences are the civilians but their government does not care much.

The Russian government made the decision to attack Ukraine but this does not mean that every civilian is agree with this act of terrorism. I am sure none of the Russian football players wanted this war and hence now they are facing the ban and other consequences.
I wish this war come to a peaceful conclusion and everything is back to normal.

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May 29, 2022, 03:06:49 AM
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This topic has seemed very interesting to me, because there is something that should be highlighted, the Russian athletes, specifically the soccer players have very good technique, they have improved it remarkably over the years, and although it is not a style as defined as the Germans, Brazilians, I think they were on a very good path despite the whole system of government by which they live. I always like to recognize people's efforts, and I see that Russian soccer players shouldn't stop playing, I don't know if the solution is for them to be nationalized with other countries, but it is preferable so that they don't lose that talent to offer it to the world and At the same time, do not let all the effort that has been made since childhood be wasted.


But the sanctioners didn't think that way, they tried to get Vladimir Putin to stop the war in a way that made it seem as if all Russians were guilty of the invasion of Ukraine.
It's also sad to see a situation like this that brings political affairs into the realm of sport.
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