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Title: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: pirateat40 on July 02, 2012, 11:03:24 PM Howdy,
I'll be in Las Vegas July 27th through July 29th with some of the biggest names in Bitcoin. If you're in the area drop by and we can all chat. Contact me for details if you're interested. P.S. Private security will be present so no fishy business. :P -pirate Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: teflone on July 02, 2012, 11:07:01 PM Me too...
Defcon or B-sides ? Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: rjk on July 02, 2012, 11:08:25 PM P.S. Private security will be present so no fishy business. :P Bringing your dog? ;DTitle: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Vandroiy on July 02, 2012, 11:10:13 PM Now that's a clear statement for once. Who are the "biggest names in Bitcoin" that have already agreed to come?
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: pirateat40 on July 02, 2012, 11:13:01 PM P.S. Private security will be present so no fishy business. :P Bringing your dog? ;DLol :) Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: nedbert9 on July 02, 2012, 11:13:03 PM Now that's a clear statement for once. Who are the "biggest names in Bitcoin" that have already agreed to come? Adolph Wolfeschlegelsteinhausenberdorft Sr. will be there. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Stephen Gornick on July 02, 2012, 11:15:22 PM Now that's a clear statement for once. Who are the "biggest names in Bitcoin" that have already agreed to come? Dan Kaminsky (@DaKami), for one. - https://www.defcon.org/html/defcon-20/dc-20-speakers.html#Kaminsky Probably @zooko / tahoe too. [Update: And Atlas: - https://www.defcon.org/html/defcon-20/dc-20-speakers.html#atlas (just kidding)] Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: copumpkin on July 02, 2012, 11:22:05 PM Now that's a clear statement for once. Who are the "biggest names in Bitcoin" that have already agreed to come? Dan Kaminsky (@DaKami), for one. - http://www.defcon.org/html/defcon-12/dc-12-speakers.html#kaminsky Probably @zooko / tahoe too. I sure hope Kaminsky isn't going. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Stephen Gornick on July 02, 2012, 11:23:20 PM I sure hope Kaminsky isn't going. ? Two presentations even. - https://www.defcon.org/html/defcon-20/dc-20-speakers.html#Kaminsky Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: copumpkin on July 02, 2012, 11:30:03 PM I sure hope Kaminsky isn't going. ? Two presentations even. - https://www.defcon.org/html/defcon-20/dc-20-speakers.html#Kaminsky I meant to pirate's meetup :) Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Spekulatius on July 02, 2012, 11:34:27 PM Now that's a clear statement for once. Who are the "biggest names in Bitcoin" that have already agreed to come? Dan Kaminsky (@DaKami), for one. - https://www.defcon.org/html/defcon-20/dc-20-speakers.html#Kaminsky Probably @zooko / tahoe too. [Update: And Atlas: - https://www.defcon.org/html/defcon-20/dc-20-speakers.html#atlas (just kidding)] No, you are right, he's actually attending! http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/566/unbenanntvpl.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/822/unbenanntvpl.jpg/) Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: hazek on July 03, 2012, 01:00:50 AM Bold move considering people will learn how you look and who you really are. It's almost as if this was a stunt to inspire confidence.
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: rjk on July 03, 2012, 01:02:44 AM Bold move considering people will learn how you look and who you really are. It's almost as if this was a stunt to inspire confidence. You don't know what he looks like already? You must not be important enough.Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: copumpkin on July 03, 2012, 01:03:51 AM Bold move considering people will learn how you look and who you really are. It's almost as if this was a stunt to inspire confidence. You don't know what he looks like already? You must not be important enough.I've been boning his sister for months now, and he kinda looks like her. I'd probably hit it if she was okay with it, but she doesn't seem too keen on the idea :( Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: teflone on July 03, 2012, 01:03:54 AM Bold move considering people will learn how you look and who you really are. It's almost as if this was a stunt to inspire confidence. You don't know what he looks like already? You must not be important enough.Clearly he has a patch on his eye and a wooden leg... A duh.. how much more do you need ? Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: hazek on July 03, 2012, 01:06:01 AM Bold move considering people will learn how you look and who you really are. It's almost as if this was a stunt to inspire confidence. You don't know what he looks like already? You must not be important enough.I just read the story linked in this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=91214.msg1004663#msg1004663 and I couldn't help myself but to write what I wrote. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Bitcoin Oz on July 03, 2012, 01:06:17 AM Bold move considering people will learn how you look and who you really are. It's almost as if this was a stunt to inspire confidence. You don't know what he looks like already? You must not be important enough.I assume he hides bitcoins in his wooden leg. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: cuz0882 on July 03, 2012, 01:16:30 AM Howdy, I'll be in Las Vegas July 27th through July 29th with some of the biggest names in Bitcoin. If you're in the area drop by and we can all chat. Contact me for details if you're interested. P.S. Private security will be present so no fishy business. :P -pirate Crap, thanks for the post. I seriously thought it was the weekend before and already made arrangements with my wife to "stop off in Vegas on the way home from Miami." I still have time to correct and say,"I mean, on the WAY to Miami!" Pirate, if you see anyone who runs a botnet (reeses). Can you give them a good beat down, and bring some pics for the forum. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: jamesg on July 03, 2012, 01:42:53 AM Pirate, if you see anyone who runs a botnet (reeses). Can you give them a good beat down, and bring some pics for the forum. No pics. All digital devices must be locked up at the front desk BEFORE hand. Just sayin....... Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: cuz0882 on July 03, 2012, 02:29:43 AM Pirate, if you see anyone who runs a botnet (reeses). Can you give them a good beat down, and bring some pics for the forum. No pics. All digital devices must be locked up at the front desk BEFORE hand. Just sayin....... Don't let him make it to the door then.. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: cuz0882 on July 03, 2012, 03:23:25 AM Pirate, if you see anyone who runs a botnet (reeses). Can you give them a good beat down, and bring some pics for the forum. No pics. All digital devices must be locked up at the front desk BEFORE hand. Just sayin....... Don't let him make it to the door then.. You're the one who said botnet, Barney. Not I. Now get out of our cool kids thread. Even if pirate only has one eye, he will see through that BS. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: smoothie on July 03, 2012, 03:33:20 AM P.S. Private security will be present so no fishy business. :P Bringing your Pirates have Parrots NOT dogs lol Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: OgNasty on July 03, 2012, 05:14:34 AM A beer with a pirate? That might be worth a trip.
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: grubles on July 03, 2012, 04:34:22 PM How the PirateShip™ is going to traverse the Nevada desert is what I've been wondering. ???
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: LoupGaroux on July 03, 2012, 05:22:23 PM Bold move considering people will learn how you look and who you really are. It's almost as if this was a stunt to inspire confidence. You don't know what he looks like already? You must not be important enough.Clearly he has a patch on his eye and a wooden leg... A duh.. how much more do you need ? What? No shoulder-mounted parrot? What kind of pirate is this pretender? Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: teflone on July 03, 2012, 06:28:50 PM Bold move considering people will learn how you look and who you really are. It's almost as if this was a stunt to inspire confidence. You don't know what he looks like already? You must not be important enough.Clearly he has a patch on his eye and a wooden leg... A duh.. how much more do you need ? What? No shoulder-mounted parrot? What kind of pirate is this pretender? Monkeys were also used as a shoulder companions.. this I will also accept.. :) Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: R- on July 03, 2012, 07:24:16 PM P.S. Private security will be present so no fishy business. :P Bringing your dog? ;DNo, he will be guarded by his parrot, Ricky. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: S. Omega on July 03, 2012, 10:25:47 PM How the PirateShip™ is going to traverse the Nevada desert is what I've been wondering. ??? His ship is probably better known as the "Flying Dutchman". From Wikipedia: Quote Sir Walter Scott (1771–1832), a friend of John Leyden's, was the first to refer to the vessel as a pirate ship, writing in the notes to Rokeby; a poem (first published December 1812) that the ship was "originally a vessel loaded with great wealth, on board of which some horrid act of murder and piracy had been committed" and that the apparition of the ship "is considered by the mariners as the worst of all possible omens." Note that pirate is approximately 200 years too late... ;D Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: teflone on July 03, 2012, 10:53:26 PM Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Tomatocage on July 03, 2012, 11:00:40 PM Bold move considering people will learn how you look and who you really are. It's almost as if this was a stunt to inspire confidence. It's already known who he is. Has been for months. Search "Trendon Shavers" on these forums. Geez. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: bulanula on July 03, 2012, 11:07:36 PM Bold move considering people will learn how you look and who you really are. It's almost as if this was a stunt to inspire confidence. It's already known who he is. Has been for months. Search "Trendon Shavers" on these forums. Geez. Facebook is the Bible and there is nothing else ! I would absolutely love ( no homo ) to see pirate too if only somebody paid for my ticket as well. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: darkice on July 03, 2012, 11:18:57 PM pirate I've sent you a message
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: jamesg on July 05, 2012, 11:24:24 PM Howdy, I'll be in Las Vegas July 27th through July 29th with some of the biggest names in Bitcoin. If you're in the area drop by and we can all chat. Contact me for details if you're interested. P.S. Private security will be present so no fishy business. :P -pirate Can't wait to meet everyone out in Vegas. See you there. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: enmaku on July 05, 2012, 11:29:13 PM Depending on what time off I can get from work, I may or may not get to see every day of DefCon but if someone wants to set up a Bitcoin meetup for that weekend I live in Vegas and I'd love to attend.
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: TORwallet on July 06, 2012, 12:41:46 AM I will be attending as well. This looks like its going to be an interesting defcon.
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: TORwallet on July 06, 2012, 12:43:13 AM Shit, wrong account.
Well, TORwallet's lead developer will be attending. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: teflone on July 06, 2012, 01:18:46 AM What kinda place you have in mind ? Casino, strip joint, steak house ?
How many are attending as of now ? Obviously you have to work around some defcon stuff.. Any preliminary thoughts on this ? Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: ErebusBat on July 06, 2012, 03:09:08 AM Pictures! I want pics of the bitcoin elite all together.
Personally I say TI, pirate theme anyone? Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: R- on July 06, 2012, 03:37:27 AM Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare.
Pirate, I have a question. Am I supposed to concentrate both my eyes on your unpatched eye? Do I act as though I am looking into two uncovered eyes? What's the protocol here? Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: pirateat40 on July 06, 2012, 03:51:47 AM Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Pirate, I have a question. Am I supposed to concentrate both my eyes on your unpatched eye? Do I act as though I am looking into two uncovered eyes? What's the protocol here? You look at the parrot... duh Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Tuxavant on July 06, 2012, 01:24:21 PM Did someone ask for a Bitcoin event during Defcon?
http://www.hackerish.org/events/65803622/ Thu 26 7pm @ The Beat Coffee House. This is 250 fremont street right next to the Fremont Experience. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: jamesg on July 06, 2012, 01:30:50 PM Did someone ask for a Bitcoin event during Defcon? http://www.hackerish.org/events/65803622/ Thu 26 7pm @ The Beat Coffee House. This is 250 fremont street right next to the Fremont Experience. Only problem is that I arrive on the 27th.... Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Tuxavant on July 06, 2012, 01:36:21 PM Saving grace: they do serve beer during out meeting. It's the only reason I show up to my own meetings. 8D stumbling around fremont drunk afterwards is fun in gangs. Also, just down the sidewalk is "Insert Coins" a retro arcade.
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: coretechs on July 06, 2012, 01:50:27 PM I can envision a bunch of geeks sitting along the back wall of a casino playing satoshi dice on their phones. :D
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: R- on July 06, 2012, 06:34:08 PM Also, just down the sidewalk is "Insert Weiner" a retro arcade. It all makes sense now. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: jamesg on July 06, 2012, 07:45:06 PM All digital devices must be locked up at the front desk BEFORE hand. Just sayin....... Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: coretechs on July 06, 2012, 08:09:46 PM I was generally referring to bitcoiners in Vegas. You guys are reading into my comment too much.
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: teflone on July 06, 2012, 10:18:28 PM Uhhhh...
what is the problem with a cellphone exactly ? Do people have something to hide, or something to fear ? Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: jamesg on July 06, 2012, 10:25:33 PM Uhhhh... what is the problem with a cellphone exactly ? Do people have something to hide, or something to fear ? What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas..... How do you not know this? ;) Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: teflone on July 06, 2012, 10:36:57 PM Uhhhh... what is the problem with a cellphone exactly ? Do people have something to hide, or something to fear ? What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas..... How do you not know this? ;) lol :) I get it.. But fyi, if I have a hot stripper riding me like a bull.. someone take a picture, I need something to rub in the face of a friend that couldnt come with us. :P Giga.. you attending defcon ? or is that a give-in.. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: jamesg on July 06, 2012, 10:49:55 PM Giga.. you attending defcon ? or is that a give-in.. I'm attending the casino and surrounding attractions. Who has time for defcon when you can gamble with a pirate? Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: teflone on July 06, 2012, 10:56:57 PM Giga.. you attending defcon ? or is that a give-in.. I'm attending the casino and surrounding attractions. Who has time for defcon when you can gamble with a pirate? Parrot or helper monkey or no dice... :D lmfao.. I hope this is in a Casino this meetup, the coffee shop meetup is a little out of the way up on freemont.. :S Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: jamesg on July 06, 2012, 11:01:13 PM Parrot or helper monkey or no dice... :D lmfao.. I hope this is in a Casino this meetup, the coffee shop meetup is a little out of the way up on freemont.. :S Roulette and blackjack FTW Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: teflone on July 06, 2012, 11:07:29 PM Parrot or helper monkey or no dice... :D lmfao.. I hope this is in a Casino this meetup, the coffee shop meetup is a little out of the way up on freemont.. :S Roulette and blackjack FTW Im down for that.. Cant remember last time I played roulette... Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: bulanula on July 06, 2012, 11:08:51 PM Parrot or helper monkey or no dice... :D lmfao.. I hope this is in a Casino this meetup, the coffee shop meetup is a little out of the way up on freemont.. :S Roulette and blackjack FTW Im down for that.. Cant remember last time I played roulette... Maybe you can also pick up your friend shakaru with your bikers LOL :D Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: teflone on July 06, 2012, 11:14:07 PM Parrot or helper monkey or no dice... :D lmfao.. I hope this is in a Casino this meetup, the coffee shop meetup is a little out of the way up on freemont.. :S Roulette and blackjack FTW Im down for that.. Cant remember last time I played roulette... Maybe you can also pick up your friend shakaru with your bikers LOL :D Actually, good point, Im trying to rent a couple bikes for me and my buddy, I wanted to get them rented for the defcon shoot, but I wont have enough time to rent before it, and after I land.. Anyone have any experience renting bikes or exotics near the strip ? Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Tuxavant on July 06, 2012, 11:17:20 PM Actually, good point, Im trying to rent a couple bikes for me and my buddy, I wanted to get them rented for the defcon shoot, but I wont have enough time to rent before it, and after I land.. Anyone have any experience renting bikes or exotics near the strip ? I escorted the hackbus out to the deviant shoot last year on my shadow. If you get this worked out, definitely send me a PM. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: teflone on July 06, 2012, 11:24:56 PM Actually, good point, Im trying to rent a couple bikes for me and my buddy, I wanted to get them rented for the defcon shoot, but I wont have enough time to rent before it, and after I land.. Anyone have any experience renting bikes or exotics near the strip ? I escorted the hackbus out to the deviant shoot last year on my shadow. If you get this worked out, definitely send me a PM. Aweeee.... brother.. :( I pretty much gave up trying to get them for shoot... I land at 8pm Wed. No bike renters are open that late.. and getting them in the morning isnt doable for the shoot.. I do have a ride to shoot from a defcon vet. and a lane beside him and his other Defcon vet friend.. Im lookin forward to the shoot big time.. :D The one that offered the ride seems like a good shit.. :) How many bikes you own ? wanna rent a couple out ? :D lol (For bitcoins of course! lmao) Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Tuxavant on July 07, 2012, 12:05:14 AM How many bikes you own ? wanna rent a couple out ? :D lol (For bitcoins of course! lmao) Ah sorry brother, I have a 250 rebel, but it's currently reserved for a local compadre. But if it gets freed up, I'll let you know! Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: teflone on July 15, 2012, 03:41:52 AM Im itching for details on this..
10 more days.. :D Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: DrHaribo on July 16, 2012, 02:44:54 PM I'll be arriving in Vegas on the 18th and leaving on the 30th. Maybe I'll see some of you guys there.
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: DrG on July 17, 2012, 09:55:40 AM Damn I would love to go (just a 3 hour drive from LA) but I gotta pick up the wife from the airport. Once in a lifetime event.... if I don't pick her up it will be the end of my life ;)
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: ErebusBat on July 17, 2012, 12:27:23 PM Damn I would love to go (just a 3 hour drive from LA) but I gotta pick up the wife from the airport. Once in a lifetime event.... if I don't pick her up it will be the end of my life ;) Call her a cab :PTitle: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: drrussellshane on July 17, 2012, 09:39:48 PM Damn I would love to go (just a 3 hour drive from LA) but I gotta pick up the wife from the airport. Once in a lifetime event.... if I don't pick her up it will be the end of my life ;) Call her a cab :POr a limo, as a further attempt to avoid the doghouse. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: notme on July 17, 2012, 11:55:14 PM Damn I would love to go (just a 3 hour drive from LA) but I gotta pick up the wife from the airport. Once in a lifetime event.... if I don't pick her up it will be the end of my life ;) Call her a cab :POr a limo, as a further attempt to avoid the doghouse. And send flowers and a box of chocolates with the driver. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: imsaguy on July 17, 2012, 11:56:38 PM Did someone ask for a Bitcoin event during Defcon? http://www.hackerish.org/events/65803622/ Thu 26 7pm @ The Beat Coffee House. This is 250 fremont street right next to the Fremont Experience. I think I'll be there. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Herodes on July 18, 2012, 01:20:08 AM now, it would be funny if 15 guys wore eye patches with a t-shirt saying: "I'm pirate!" at the front, and at the back: "Haha, just kidding, but really.. trust me, I'm Satoshi!
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: ErebusBat on July 18, 2012, 01:59:03 AM now, it would be funny if 15 guys wore eye patches with a t-shirt saying: "I'm pirate!" at the front, and at the back: "Haha, just kidding, but really.. trust me, I'm Satoshi! POIDHTitle: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: ErebusBat on July 20, 2012, 06:53:20 PM is there a bitcoin event at defcon? Wasn't defcon last year (maybe the year before) only about bitcoin?Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Lumpy on July 27, 2012, 04:39:25 PM Today's the day! Anyone there?
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: goodlord666 on July 27, 2012, 06:16:29 PM Wohooo!!! Can you see me? I'm over here!
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: goodlord666 on July 27, 2012, 06:17:29 PM (I'm the guy with the funny collar)
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: ErebusBat on July 27, 2012, 06:24:38 PM (I'm the guy with the funny collar) POIDHTitle: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: goodlord666 on July 27, 2012, 06:29:33 PM Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: ErebusBat on July 27, 2012, 06:33:45 PM ^^^^ Good one, you literally got a chuckle out of me.
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Kluge on July 27, 2012, 09:58:02 PM Anyone saw pirate yet? His plane is being tracked by all of Bitmanity. It's either about to touchdown or already has.Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: DrG on July 28, 2012, 04:55:44 AM Anybody lose an eye patch yet? Anybody waking up to a tigers in their room? ;D
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: jamesg on July 28, 2012, 06:25:23 AM Anyone saw pirate yet? His plane is being tracked by all of Bitmanity. It's either about to touchdown or already has.I have seen a pirate and he looks like a pirate. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: smoothie on July 28, 2012, 07:24:21 AM Anyone saw pirate yet? His plane is being tracked by all of Bitmanity. It's either about to touchdown or already has.And all this whie I was thinking he was sailing in on the Black Pearl... :-[ Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: mrb on July 28, 2012, 07:55:41 AM I have seen a pirate and he looks like a pirate. So you did not see the pirate. I had a hunch he would not show up... Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: vuce on July 28, 2012, 08:26:34 AM Anyone saw pirate yet? His plane is being tracked by all of Bitmanity. It's either about to touchdown or already has.I have seen a pirate and he looks like a pirate. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: ErebusBat on July 28, 2012, 02:09:16 PM My hunch is that only trusted lenders will see pirate, like giga and goat.
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: ineededausername on July 28, 2012, 02:22:31 PM My hunch is that only trusted lenders will see pirate, like giga and goat. I doubt goat flew over from Thailand. He did. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Serge on July 28, 2012, 02:27:43 PM you know what they say "what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas" )
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: BlackBison on July 28, 2012, 02:35:04 PM My hunch is that only trusted lenders will see pirate, like giga and goat. Picture of pirate, giga and goat all with shoes on their heads please.. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: humanitee on July 28, 2012, 03:51:42 PM Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: MrTeal on July 28, 2012, 04:15:19 PM My hunch is that only trusted lenders will see pirate, like giga and goat. Video of pirate, giga and goat all singing "I Will Always Love You" at a karaoke bar please... FTFY Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: wachtwoord on July 28, 2012, 04:44:54 PM What? No "Mandy"? ;)
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Spekulatius on July 28, 2012, 04:58:03 PM To prove that the person showing up in Vegas claiming to be pirate (if any) is pirateat40 indeed (with high probability), he could in the presence of many of the trusted forum members catching up with him, perform a live payout to its BS&T lenders. Because 00:00 am on Monday the 30th is due day for his regular dividends for BS&T this one could come as some bonus payout in order to prove pirate's credibility. It wouldn't have to be a large sum also, maybe 1 Satoshi to everyone. It would require a large amount of trust though, for pirate to hand over access to all his funds to some double standing in for him in Vegas.
Why would he ask someone else to go to Vegas for him? Maybe to cloak his real identity and to stage this proof of trust, that many would fall for and give him the credibility, while he gives none to the community. He could also prepare his impending exit, while the world believes, that he still attends the Vegas convention every day. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: unclemantis on July 28, 2012, 05:30:30 PM you know what they say "what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas" ) +1 Wish I could have made it folks. Maybe next year! Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: waltmarkers on July 29, 2012, 12:10:25 AM To prove that the person showing up in Vegas claiming to be pirate (if any) is pirateat40 indeed (with high probability), he could in the presence of many of the trusted forum members catching up with him, perform a live payout to its BS&T lenders. Because 00:00 am on Monday the 30th is due day for his regular dividends for BS&T this one could come as some bonus payout in order to prove pirate's credibility. It wouldn't have to be a large sum also, maybe 1 Satoshi to everyone. It would require a large amount of trust though, for pirate to hand over access to all his funds to some double standing in for him in Vegas. Why would he ask someone else to go to Vegas for him? Maybe to cloak his real identity and to stage this proof of trust, that many would fall for and give him the credibility, while he gives none to the community. He could also prepare his impending exit, while the world believes, that he still attends the Vegas convention every day. Great idea. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: the joint on July 29, 2012, 12:51:41 AM So Giga, Goat, care to share what ya'll talked about?
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: R- on July 29, 2012, 01:50:29 AM I wonder if people know what pirate looks like.
*leaked images [nsfw]* (https://c479107.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/files/3225/article/width668/Craig_A_Rodway-1314686280.jpg) Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: rjk on July 29, 2012, 03:16:22 AM I wonder if people know what pirate looks like. Goat, gigavps, etc: So did our favorite pirate actually end up looking like this?*leaked images [nsfw]* (https://c479107.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/files/3225/article/width668/Craig_A_Rodway-1314686280.jpg) https://i.imgur.com/Tcbop.jpg http://photobook.bitvps.com/index.php/pirateat40 Just wonderin'. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: alexanderanon on July 29, 2012, 06:46:27 AM I was expecting DEFCON pictures. Is that so much to ask for for someone who has 5-10% of the entire bitcoin economy in pocket?
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: dissipate on July 29, 2012, 08:45:43 AM I was expecting DEFCON pictures. Is that so much to ask for for someone who has 5-10% of the entire bitcoin economy in pocket? Someone correct me if I am wrong but I don't think electronic devices (including cameras) are allowed inside. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: CoinCidental on July 29, 2012, 09:34:37 AM I was expecting DEFCON pictures. Is that so much to ask for for someone who has 5-10% of the entire bitcoin economy in pocket? You should be asking everyone else why does an anonymous person have a few million dollars worth of BTC and he hasnt even provided ID yet...... Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: ErebusBat on July 29, 2012, 01:34:12 PM I was expecting DEFCON pictures. Is that so much to ask for for someone who has 5-10% of the entire bitcoin economy in pocket? Someone correct me if I am wrong but I don't think electronic devices (including cameras) are allowed inside. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: wachtwoord on July 29, 2012, 01:38:40 PM So, no pictures indicates Pirate is currently using scopolamine (http://"http://thestir.cafemom.com/in_the_news/137561/dangerous_zombie_drug_could_turn") on all of the people present to turn them into his Zombie army of the dead? ;D
Oh and for the people who cannot spot a joke when it hits them in the face. This is a joke. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: silverbox on July 29, 2012, 02:06:47 PM So, no pictures indicates Pirate is currently using scopolamine (http://"http://thestir.cafemom.com/in_the_news/137561/dangerous_zombie_drug_could_turn") on all of the people present to turn them into his Zombie army of the dead? ;D Oh and for the people who cannot spot a joke when it hits them in the face. This is a joke. This is a Zombie thread now!! Awesome ;). So there I was in my bunker with only 1200 rounds of .308 left for the 1919A4 and M1A... Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: mem on July 29, 2012, 02:26:16 PM I give pirate credit for having the balls to conduct this ponzi with so much flair.
I think we are seeing the creation of a very successful pyramid scheme like amway/a2k (whatever they currently call themselves to dodge bad PR). They dont always fail, occasionally the people at the top get ludicrously rich and have 0 dependence on their pyramid except as an income. I applaud his efforts and eagerly wait for the outcome whatever it is, It a shame I could not make it to vegas as this would have been a very interesting show to see. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: CoinCidental on July 29, 2012, 02:50:35 PM I give pirate credit for having the balls to conduct this ponzi with so much flair. I think we are seeing the creation of a very successful pyramid scheme like amway/a2k (whatever they currently call themselves to dodge bad PR). They dont always fail, occasionally the people at the top get ludicrously rich and have 0 dependence on their pyramid except as an income. I applaud his efforts and eagerly wait for the outcome whatever it is, It a shame I could not make it to vegas as this would have been a very interesting show to see. youre right ,they dont always fail ,investigators suspect bernie madoff had been running his for about 39 years (from around 1960 to 1999 and never missed an interest payment in that period ) everyone who wanted to withdraw always got a cheque issued immediately,if the authorities didnt close in ,his operation might have lasted even longer Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: klaus on July 29, 2012, 03:31:59 PM maybe he was in some trouble ::) A German man sought in Europe for alleged participation in a fraudulent €81 million ($100 million) pyramid scheme has been arrested in the Las Vegas after five years on the run, US immigration authorities said late on Saturday. http://www.thelocal.de/national/20120729-44033.html Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: jamesg on July 29, 2012, 03:55:27 PM You guys are so ridiculous sometimes.
I've dared to looked at a pirate, eye to eye, and I can say that I'm happy that I did. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Raoul Duke on July 29, 2012, 04:01:25 PM You guys are so ridiculous sometimes. I've dared to looked at a pirate, eye to eye, and I can say that I'm happy that I did. How are you posting here? I thought you would turn into a salt statue. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: farfiman on July 29, 2012, 04:03:47 PM maybe he was in some trouble ::) A German man sought in Europe for alleged participation in a fraudulent €81 million ($100 million) pyramid scheme has been arrested in the Las Vegas after five years on the run, US immigration authorities said late on Saturday. http://www.thelocal.de/national/20120729-44033.html that guy was 51... too old :) Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Vandroiy on July 29, 2012, 04:42:47 PM Some stuff from IRC: Goat seems to confirm, but Tuxavant says he did not appear yet.
Quote <Tuxavant> Vandroiy, well I know he was saying he was going to show, but we've not met yet. he said he would contact several of us.. but nobody has seen him (...) <Tuxavant> Vandroiy, I know of at least two people he said he would contact at DC and has not. I guess we'll know more soon, when DefCon ends and people talk about it. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: farfiman on July 29, 2012, 04:52:53 PM Some stuff from IRC: Goat seems to confirm, but Tuxavant says he did not appear yet. Quote <Tuxavant> Vandroiy, well I know he was saying he was going to show, but we've not met yet. he said he would contact several of us.. but nobody has seen him (...) <Tuxavant> Vandroiy, I know of at least two people he said he would contact at DC and has not. I guess we'll know more soon, when DefCon ends and people talk about it. You guys are so ridiculous sometimes. I've dared to looked at a pirate, eye to eye, and I can say that I'm happy that I did. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Draino on July 29, 2012, 05:04:14 PM You guys are so ridiculous sometimes. I've dared to looked at a pirate, eye to eye, and I can say that I'm happy that I did. wait, what? so pirate comes out with this public meeting, basically calling out the whole community.. if you dare, and all that then only has shill-based confirmation (hardly any), and it's "you guys" that are being ridiculous? Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Frankie on July 29, 2012, 05:56:41 PM You guys are so ridiculous sometimes. I've dared to looked at a pirate, eye to eye, and I can say that I'm happy that I did. wait, what? so pirate comes out with this public meeting, basically calling out the whole community.. if you dare, and all that then only has shill-based confirmation (hardly any), and it's "you guys" that are being ridiculous? Guys don't worry, when my ponzi scheme dies I'll pay those closest to me first. ;) Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Spekulatius on July 29, 2012, 06:12:26 PM Ok, just to make sure in advance, who's testimony can be trusted the most;
Lets make a list with who is on the payroll of pirate or has any personal interest in any of his operations: - Chaang Noi (Goat) ช้างน้อย (runs PiratePassThrough Bond or is affiliated with one) - BurtW (runs PiratePassThrough Bond or is affiliated with one) - PatrickHarnett (runs PiratePassThrough Bond or is affiliated with one) - dollartrader (runs PiratePassThrough Bond or is affiliated with one) - hashking (runs PiratePassThrough Bond or is affiliated with one) - imsaguy (runs PiratePassThrough Bond or is affiliated with one) - ineededausername (runs PiratePassThrough Bond or is affiliated with one) - bitfoo (runs PiratePassThrough Bond or is affiliated with one) - pay.btc (runs PiratePassThrough Bond or is affiliated with one) - gigavps (runs PiratePassThrough Bond or is affiliated with one) - ... who else?? I will update this list, discussion is public, pls provide evidence, like posts that indicate that said person is bond holder or else. Any amount of holdings qualify its holder for an entry in this list Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: dooglus on July 29, 2012, 06:43:11 PM - pay.btc (runs PiratePassThrough Bond on GLBSE or is affiliated with one) payb.tc runs bitcoinmax.com, which is a PPT but it's independent of GLBTSE. Just in case anyone cares about facts, y'know? Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Lumpy on July 29, 2012, 06:43:47 PM I have seen a pirate and he looks like a pirate. You guys are so ridiculous sometimes. I've dared to looked at a pirate, eye to eye, and I can say that I'm happy that I did. We really only have giga's words here, which are vague, and a +1 from Goat. My guesses are either, 1) Pirate hasn't shown or 2) He has and they are intentionally teasing the forum For both I have to wonder why... Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: dooglus on July 29, 2012, 06:46:38 PM payb.tc runs bitcoinmax.com, which is a PPT but it's independent of GLBTSE. From the horse's mouth: i know that one of the things people like about bitcoin max is not having to deal with gblse, and i can totally understand that, because i don't want to either. i don't have an account there and it seems way too complicated, and to be honest, it seems like too much effort. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: DrHaribo on July 29, 2012, 06:52:13 PM Any bitcoiners around at Def Con right now?
I'm at the Chillout Cafe. I have a Hak5 cap on the table next to my lap top, should make me easy to spot. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: AndrewBUD on July 29, 2012, 06:59:20 PM Men touching men...... I wouldn't want to tell either
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Coinoisseur on July 29, 2012, 07:04:47 PM Pretty low key so far considering the hype.
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Draino on July 29, 2012, 07:11:06 PM Do you need 120 confirmations or something? If you're not happy, go to Vegas. i think you're confused, this *is* my 120 confirmations Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Spekulatius on July 29, 2012, 07:13:18 PM Quote - pay.btc (runs PiratePassThrough Bond on GLBSE or is affiliated with one) - gigavps (runs PiratePassThrough Bond on GLBSE or is affiliated with one) But it seems pointless to make a list like that, because most people on it are not even in Vegas. Quote - pay.btc (runs PiratePassThrough Bond on GLBSE or is affiliated with one) edited Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: finkleshnorts on July 29, 2012, 07:31:17 PM Is it me, or Goat messages have been removed? I'm pretty sure I saw him posted a couple of post before me. Or maybe I'm crazy or something? ??? He posted two things, I think. One about Pirate getting lucky when Giga was rolling (and 167 to 1 odds/people handing out free beer), and then another about "what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas." Hmmmmm. Is it staying in Vegas or not? Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Vandroiy on July 29, 2012, 07:43:46 PM Is it me, or Goat messages have been removed? I'm pretty sure I saw him posted a couple of post before me. Or maybe I'm crazy or something? ??? No, I'm seeing this as well. There are multiple posts missing that very strongly implied Pirateat40 met Goat in Vegas. He posted two things, I think. One about Pirate getting lucky when Giga was rolling (and 167 to 1 odds/people handing out free beer), and then another about "what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas." Hmmmmm. Is it staying in Vegas or not? I remember at least a third post that quoted Gigavps "saw a pirate" and added a "+1", don't remember whether there was more in it. This is very fishy, why would someone wipe all his posts from more than one page? Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: finkleshnorts on July 29, 2012, 07:45:45 PM They are either screwing with us just to watch our dumbfounded responses, or something weird is going on. Really not sure which atm.
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Vandroiy on July 29, 2012, 07:56:19 PM I asked Goat on IRC, and he acted as if he doesn't know what deleted posts I am talking about, even after I pointed to this thread.
The "confirmation" of this guy is ridiculous. We're down to gigavps now. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: CoinCidental on July 29, 2012, 07:58:05 PM Crash the party,everyone withdraw deposits from BST on sunday and see if he can make mondays interest payments or not ........
very simple test to check if its a ponzi or not ? and get all this bullshit over once and for all Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Lumpy on July 29, 2012, 07:59:49 PM We're down to gigavps now. Not really. Giga never said he saw pirateat40. He did say he saw "a pirate." I figure it was a cardboard cutout... Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: finkleshnorts on July 29, 2012, 08:01:14 PM I asked Goat on IRC, and he acted as if he doesn't know what deleted posts I am talking about, even after I pointed to this thread. The "confirmation" of this guy is ridiculous. We're down to gigavps now. Then he's just screwing with you and everyone else trying to follow this thread. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: finkleshnorts on July 29, 2012, 08:15:13 PM Then he's just screwing with you and everyone else trying to follow this thread. Since they're always complaining about FUD, why create it themselves? I'm guessing they did meet pirate, had a great time, feel really reassured, and now they want everyone else to be left in the dark and jealous or something to punish the forum for spreading so much FUD. I don't know, or care really. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Vladimir on July 29, 2012, 08:17:04 PM You guys are so ridiculous sometimes. I've dared to looked at a pirate, eye to eye, and I can say that I'm happy that I did. Do not play "idiots" with us. Say that you have met that guy with moniker pirateat40 and are satisfied that he was present here and that that you are satisfied that he is indeed the same person who runs this ponzi and that as supposedly "respected community member with a good reputation" vouch for him etc... Or say that you have not. For all we can see you are trying to post ironic/vague statements supporting proliferation of a ponzi scheme in hope that somehow you will not get a scammer tag and be ostracised by this community as every single fraudster involved into this either directly or indirectly should. Do you think that by posting vague statements you will avoid consequences of being promoter of this fraud scheme? There is that list of all those shills and ponzi co-conspirators who are all so vocal in vague and supposedly "respected" and promote the poinzi tirelessly. You shills be ready for the shitstorm that will happen once YOUR ponzi implodes. You will be guilty in eyes of this community and in the eyes of law as much as the direct ponzi operator himself. Nobody here is ridiculous but a bunch of fraudsters who promote this poinzi and even more so all the idiots who eat all the shit they spawn. Lets make a list with who is on the payroll of pirate or has any personal interest in any of his operations: - Chaang Noi (Goat) ช้างน้อย (runs PiratePassThrough Bond or is affiliated with one) - BurtW (runs PiratePassThrough Bond or is affiliated with one) - PatrickHarnett (runs PiratePassThrough Bond or is affiliated with one) - dollartrader (runs PiratePassThrough Bond or is affiliated with one) - hashking (runs PiratePassThrough Bond or is affiliated with one) - imsaguy (runs PiratePassThrough Bond or is affiliated with one) - ineededausername (runs PiratePassThrough Bond or is affiliated with one) - bitfoo (runs PiratePassThrough Bond or is affiliated with one) - pay.btc (runs PiratePassThrough Bond or is affiliated with one) - gigavps (runs PiratePassThrough Bond or is affiliated with one) - ... who else?? Good start. It seems like automatic scammer tag list the moment the ponzi implodes as well as list of scammers for all the criminal reports that will be lodged eventually when this indeed blows over as many think it will. Now a little exercise for all the readers. See the posting history of individuals mentioned above. See their mission here for yourself. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Michail1 on July 29, 2012, 08:21:48 PM It appears someone is unhappy they haven't deposited long ago.
I would like to find out if pirate has met up with anyone myself, since this was his original posting. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: finkleshnorts on July 29, 2012, 08:23:41 PM It seems like automatic scammer tag list the moment the ponzi implodes Frankly, that's stupid. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: imsaguy on July 29, 2012, 08:27:30 PM Do not play "idiots" with us. Say that you have met that guy with moniker pirateat40 and are satisfied that he was present here and that that you are satisfied that he is indeed the same person who runs this ponzi and that as supposedly "respected community member with a good reputation" vouch for him etc... Or say that you have not. OR how about you get off your lazy ass and do it your damn self! :) Lets make a list with who is on the payroll of pirate or has any personal interest in any of his operations: - Chaang Noi (Goat) ช้างน้อย (runs PiratePassThrough Bond or is affiliated with one) - BurtW (runs PiratePassThrough Bond or is affiliated with one) - PatrickHarnett (runs PiratePassThrough Bond or is affiliated with one) - dollartrader (runs PiratePassThrough Bond or is affiliated with one) - hashking (runs PiratePassThrough Bond or is affiliated with one) - imsaguy (runs PiratePassThrough Bond or is affiliated with one) - ineededausername (runs PiratePassThrough Bond or is affiliated with one) - bitfoo (runs PiratePassThrough Bond or is affiliated with one) - pay.btc (runs PiratePassThrough Bond or is affiliated with one) - gigavps (runs PiratePassThrough Bond or is affiliated with one) - ... who else?? Good start. It seems like automatic scammer tag list the moment the ponzi implodes as well as list of scammers for all the criminal reports that will be lodged eventually when this indeed blows over as many think it will. Now a little exercise for all the readers. See the posting history of individuals mentioned above. See their mission here for yourself. Just because I'm affiliated with a PPT doesn't mean I know for certain Pirate is or isn't legit. All it means is I got in before everyone else and have had access to rates that people that got in later didn't have access to. Your logic skills sux0rz. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Vladimir on July 29, 2012, 08:29:42 PM Just because I'm affiliated with a PPT doesn't mean I know for certain Pirate is or isn't legit. All it means is I got in before everyone else and have had access to rates that people that got in later didn't have access to. Your logic skills sux0rz. Yep, rehearse your little speech for the cops. Guilty or not, I do not know. But in the list of defendants on this, yes, most certainly. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: mc_lovin on July 29, 2012, 08:31:28 PM I think the Vegas arrest (http://www.thelocal.de/national/20120729-44033.html) is an interesting one.. maybe he's pirate@51..
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: imsaguy on July 29, 2012, 08:32:35 PM Just because I'm affiliated with a PPT doesn't mean I know for certain Pirate is or isn't legit. All it means is I got in before everyone else and have had access to rates that people that got in later didn't have access to. Your logic skills sux0rz. Yep, rehearse your little speech for the cops. Guilty or not, I do not know. But in the list of defendants on this, yes, most certainly. I like how you skipped over the first bit about STFU and verifying what he looks like yourself. Instead its easier for you to keep talking. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Vladimir on July 29, 2012, 08:36:24 PM Just because I'm affiliated with a PPT doesn't mean I know for certain Pirate is or isn't legit. All it means is I got in before everyone else and have had access to rates that people that got in later didn't have access to. Your logic skills sux0rz. Yep, rehearse your little speech for the cops. Guilty or not, I do not know. But in the list of defendants on this, yes, most certainly. Skipped because it is utter nonsence. Quote OR how about you get off your lazy ass and do it your damn self! My lazy ass will stay where it is. I am not the one dropping vague hints here, shill, that I supposedly saw some pirate. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shill " A shill, plant, or stooge is a person who publicly helps a person or organization without disclosing that he has a close relationship with that person or organization. Shill typically refers to someone who purposely gives onlookers the impression that he is an enthusiastic independent customer of a seller (or marketer of ideas) for whom he is secretly working. " Disclose your affiliation and income derived from this before saying anything on topic or stay ^^^^ Your asses will so flap in the wind eventually, once ponzi implodes. If not on fraud charges then on various securities laws. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: finkleshnorts on July 29, 2012, 08:40:30 PM Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Vandroiy on July 29, 2012, 08:41:23 PM Just because I'm affiliated with a PPT doesn't mean I know for certain Pirate is or isn't legit. All it means is I got in before everyone else and have had access to rates that people that got in later didn't have access to. Your logic skills sux0rz. LOL did imsaguy just admit he was being paid extra, and had no knowledge of BS&T legitimacy? Do any of you remember just who was extremely intent on defending BS&T in the flamewar? This thread is becoming priceless. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: notme on July 29, 2012, 08:42:32 PM And Vladimir used to be so level headed. This sure has got his panties in a bunch.
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: imsaguy on July 29, 2012, 08:44:52 PM Just because I'm affiliated with a PPT doesn't mean I know for certain Pirate is or isn't legit. All it means is I got in before everyone else and have had access to rates that people that got in later didn't have access to. Your logic skills sux0rz. LOL did imsaguy just admit he was being paid extra, and had no knowledge of BS&T legitimacy? Do any of you remember just who was extremely intent on defending BS&T in the flamewar? This thread is becoming priceless. No turd, its because I had enough to qualify for the 7% and many other people don't have Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: ineededausername on July 29, 2012, 08:45:39 PM Just because I'm affiliated with a PPT doesn't mean I know for certain Pirate is or isn't legit. All it means is I got in before everyone else and have had access to rates that people that got in later didn't have access to. Your logic skills sux0rz. LOL did imsaguy just admit he was being paid extra, and had no knowledge of BS&T legitimacy? Do any of you remember just who was extremely intent on defending BS&T in the flamewar? This thread is becoming priceless. No turd, its because I had enough to qualify for the 7% and many other people don't have any many btc. Goes to show how badly statements can be misinterpreted once you've made up your mind like Vandroiy has. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Vladimir on July 29, 2012, 08:47:33 PM Just because I'm affiliated with a PPT doesn't mean I know for certain Pirate is or isn't legit. All it means is I got in before everyone else and have had access to rates that people that got in later didn't have access to. Your logic skills sux0rz. LOL did imsaguy just admit he was being paid extra, and had no knowledge of BS&T legitimacy? Do any of you remember just who was extremely intent on defending BS&T in the flamewar? This thread is becoming priceless. It's like saying "I am getting money from that unknown guy and I help to promote his ponzi, but I am not guilty on charges of fraud because I do not even know him and not affiliated with him". Nice try. Get damn legal advise already and I promise you the first thing that will be advised to you is to shut up. P.S. It is not my mission to please every idiot on the planet. Just saying as it is whether you like it or not. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: PatrickHarnett on July 29, 2012, 08:49:13 PM - PatrickHarnett (runs PiratePassThrough Bond or is affiliated with one) Proudly offering one of the worst pass-though schemes via Starfish - i.e. use someone else. Shareholder in the original PPT.x GLBSE based rotating bond program. And I chose not to fly 20-ish hours to Vegas in economy - my commitments to my day job kept me in NZ. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: imsaguy on July 29, 2012, 08:50:30 PM P.S. It is not my mission to please every idiot on the planet. Just saying as it is whether you like it or not. LOL. Just saying it is as it is? Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Maged on July 29, 2012, 08:50:40 PM LOL did imsaguy just admit he was being paid extra, and had no knowledge of BS&T legitimacy? Do any of you remember just who was extremely intent on defending BS&T in the flamewar? Seriously, stop trying to see things that aren't there. You're just making everyone who's concerned about Pirate look foolish.And Vladimir used to be so level headed. This sure has got his panties in a bunch. He is level headed. You should stop and think about how all of this appears to people on the outside that aren't blinded by Pirate Greed.Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: notme on July 29, 2012, 08:52:42 PM And Vladimir used to be so level headed. This sure has got his panties in a bunch. Since when? Don't you remember him ranting off and posting he was never going to post here again. I refuse to unignore him to see what he said but it must have been good. LOL Since long ago, before the pirate FUD storm started. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: notme on July 29, 2012, 09:03:32 PM LOL did imsaguy just admit he was being paid extra, and had no knowledge of BS&T legitimacy? Do any of you remember just who was extremely intent on defending BS&T in the flamewar? Seriously, stop trying to see things that aren't there. You're just making everyone who's concerned about Pirate look foolish.Quote And Vladimir used to be so level headed. This sure has got his panties in a bunch. He is level headed. You should stop and think about how all of this appears to people on the outside that aren't blinded by Pirate Greed.Looks mostly the same as it did when I first invested many months ago. Now the interest rates are lower, payouts are less often, and it's still a great return. Nobody expects this to last forever and pirateat40 has demonstrated several times he will adjust his interest rate down as his profit margins are squeezed by competition. I have had several private conversations with pirate and I am fairly confident of at least two legitimate revenue streams he has, and I suspect two others. None are illegal as far as I know, and despite weeks of screaming, nobody has been able to provide one scrap of evidence to the contrary. I will not provide more information about what I believe he is doing other than the obvious (gpumax) because competition will reduce his profits and thus my payouts. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: imsaguy on July 29, 2012, 09:05:20 PM Looks mostly the same as it did when I first invested many months ago. Now the interest rates are lower, payouts are less often, and it's still a great return. Nobody expects this to last forever and pirateat40 has demonstrated several times he will adjust his interest rate down as his profit margins are squeezed by competition. I have had several private conversations with pirate and I am fairly confident of at least two legitimate revenue streams he has, and I suspect two others. None are illegal as far as I know, and despite weeks of screaming, nobody has been able to provide one scrap of evidence to the contrary. I will not provide more information about what I believe he is doing other than the obvious (gpumax) because competition will reduce his profits and thus my payouts. I guess that means you've been paid off ::) Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Sukrim on July 29, 2012, 09:15:07 PM This is getting boring with people posting cryptic messages and continuing with "funny" (maybe it is funny to some people?) posts but not even a single picture or a PGP signed message "I met with pirateat40 face to face in Vegas" yet.
Playing it cool might be nice for some high schoolers, but this is something that not a lot of people can afford (going to Vegas on a certain date and time) and the ones there don't seem to be helpful at all. On one hand very often I read that it's oh-so-important to be serious and take care how your online persona is received, on the other hand I only need to take a look at this thread to see less than a handful of people whom I would trust to give my money. After 9(!) pages! Seriously, if this is the fabulous "Bitcoin community", I'm happy that I managed so far to convince a lot of people to stay away and wait it out until some real stuff emerges from there. About pirate's business: At least a very large piece of it should be documented forever in the block chain anyways, so just start writing analysis programs and scrapers instead of again warning everyone that 7% a week is just not sustainable. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: wachtwoord on July 29, 2012, 09:41:43 PM LOL did imsaguy just admit he was being paid extra, and had no knowledge of BS&T legitimacy? Do any of you remember just who was extremely intent on defending BS&T in the flamewar? Seriously, stop trying to see things that aren't there. You're just making everyone who's concerned about Pirate look foolish.Quote And Vladimir used to be so level headed. This sure has got his panties in a bunch. He is level headed. You should stop and think about how all of this appears to people on the outside that aren't blinded by Pirate Greed.Looks mostly the same as it did when I first invested many months ago. Now the interest rates are lower, payouts are less often, and it's still a great return. Nobody expects this to last forever and pirateat40 has demonstrated several times he will adjust his interest rate down as his profit margins are squeezed by competition. I have had several private conversations with pirate and I am fairly confident of at least two legitimate revenue streams he has, and I suspect two others. None are illegal as far as I know, and despite weeks of screaming, nobody has been able to provide one scrap of evidence to the contrary. I will not provide more information about what I believe he is doing other than the obvious (gpumax) because competition will reduce his profits and thus my payouts. Hey everyone knows I trust the business enough to have invested. However, please stop saying Pirate is reducing interest rates when he clearly isn't (he still offers the same percentages to trust accounts, which means in the end the majority of the market will invest through these, causing Pirate to pay the same rates as he did before) it makes you look like you're covering something up .... Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: ribuck on July 29, 2012, 10:08:43 PM Notice how, in the original post, pirate said "Contact me for details if you're interested". So unless anyone contacted him for details, they're not going to meet him, and pirate can claim to have fulfilled his part of this
Nor did pirate say that he was attending DefCon, he just said he was going to Vegas. For all we know, he may be putting all the BS&T funds on red at the roulette table in a desperate attempt to keep his scheme afloat. In that case, pirate may be lucky and can prolong his scheme long enough to win his bet with vandroiy. Or, if pirate loses at the roulette table, he may default on the coming interest payment. The terms of his bet with vandroiy allow for a two-week delay after a missed payment. So by 14 August, the gig is up. Just like pirate already hinted (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=95008.msg1051580#msg1051580). (I'm not invested with pirate; I'm just here to enjoy the show) Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Vandroiy on July 29, 2012, 10:28:52 PM Seriously, stop trying to see things that aren't there. You're just making everyone who's concerned about Pirate look foolish. Okay. I made the error of overlooking that "being in early" means controlling a much larger amount of money, thus increasing the rate. You're making it sound as if it's okay to just accept that. "Well, there's a money source, so I'm taking some. No, I don't know what it is, but I tell people to stop their stupid FUD about it while it's still flowing." The point I was trying to make is not how this works exactly. It's the combination of supporting something and profiting from it. If it is foolish to demand that people retain some ethics, then name me a fool. And I'm not concerned about Pirate here. He is the trigger, not the cause of the problem. I guess I'm a fool to care. Let's get back on topic and figure out whether Pirate appeared in Las Vegas. Is anyone other than Gigavps confirming his presence, in posts that haven't vanished yet? Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: iCEBREAKER on July 29, 2012, 10:39:37 PM And Vladimir used to be so level headed. This sure has got his panties in a bunch. He's not the only one that's started living full time in BTC Fantasy Land. You can tell which ones have gone off the deep end easily. They're the ones who actually believe that the Police Cops are going to ring up Interpol's cybercrime unit for the sake of tracking down their stolen/scammed BTC. As if any law enforcement agency in the world has a Cryptocoin Recovery Division, or cares in the least about their Magic Internet Money. They've completely lost it ('it' being contact with consensus reality). ::) Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: rjk on July 29, 2012, 10:49:05 PM And Vladimir used to be so level headed. This sure has got his panties in a bunch. He's not the only one that's started living full time in BTC Fantasy Land. You can tell which ones have gone off the deep end easily. They're the ones who actually believe that the Police Cops are going to ring up Interpol's cybercrime unit for the sake of tracking down their stolen/scammed BTC. As if any law enforcement agency in the world has a Cryptocoin Recovery Division, or cares in the least about their Magic Internet Money. They've completely lost it ('it' being contact with consensus reality). ::) Quote The argument for punishment is that many of these games take years to master to the point where the online character begins to effectively navigate through the virtual world. The players invest their time, effort, and money into building their online personages, so many courts are looking at the thefts in much the same way they would look at the theft of any other valuable possession. In 2008, a group of boys in the Netherlands attacked and threatened a RuneScape player, so that he would turn over a chain and amulet. The Dutch court set a precedent in the case, stating that virtual goods are the same as real goods, and the boys were convicted of theft. In general, courts globally seem to be treating virtual crime just as they would any real-world crime: If a person is found guilty of stealing, killing, ruining, or otherwise destroying an online-gaming experience for a person or group of persons, the penalties enacted will be similar to punishment of real-world crime, with noted exceptions. For example, killing an avatar will not be met with a life sentence in prison. However, the monetary loss sustained by the player will be comparable to real-world money loss, and criminals will end up with fines, probation, or even jail. The lesson here: If you can't to the time, then don't commit cyber-crime. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: imsaguy on July 29, 2012, 10:50:19 PM Oh really? http://www.talentzoo.com/digital-pivot/blog_news.php?articleID=6221 Quote The argument for punishment is that many of these games take years to master to the point where the online character begins to effectively navigate through the virtual world. The players invest their time, effort, and money into building their online personages, so many courts are looking at the thefts in much the same way they would look at the theft of any other valuable possession. In 2008, a group of boys in the Netherlands attacked and threatened a RuneScape player, so that he would turn over a chain and amulet. The Dutch court set a precedent in the case, stating that virtual goods are the same as real goods, and the boys were convicted of theft. In general, courts globally seem to be treating virtual crime just as they would any real-world crime: If a person is found guilty of stealing, killing, ruining, or otherwise destroying an online-gaming experience for a person or group of persons, the penalties enacted will be similar to punishment of real-world crime, with noted exceptions. For example, killing an avatar will not be met with a life sentence in prison. However, the monetary loss sustained by the player will be comparable to real-world money loss, and criminals will end up with fines, probation, or even jail. The lesson here: If you can't to the time, then don't commit cyber-crime. Now you need to quote the US Case Law. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: rjk on July 29, 2012, 10:52:57 PM Now you need to quote the US Case Law. That was the first handy link, I don't have time to chase down all the others. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: notme on July 29, 2012, 10:57:10 PM LOL did imsaguy just admit he was being paid extra, and had no knowledge of BS&T legitimacy? Do any of you remember just who was extremely intent on defending BS&T in the flamewar? Seriously, stop trying to see things that aren't there. You're just making everyone who's concerned about Pirate look foolish.Quote And Vladimir used to be so level headed. This sure has got his panties in a bunch. He is level headed. You should stop and think about how all of this appears to people on the outside that aren't blinded by Pirate Greed.Looks mostly the same as it did when I first invested many months ago. Now the interest rates are lower, payouts are less often, and it's still a great return. Nobody expects this to last forever and pirateat40 has demonstrated several times he will adjust his interest rate down as his profit margins are squeezed by competition. I have had several private conversations with pirate and I am fairly confident of at least two legitimate revenue streams he has, and I suspect two others. None are illegal as far as I know, and despite weeks of screaming, nobody has been able to provide one scrap of evidence to the contrary. I will not provide more information about what I believe he is doing other than the obvious (gpumax) because competition will reduce his profits and thus my payouts. Hey everyone knows I trust the business enough to have invested. However, please stop saying Pirate is reducing interest rates when he clearly isn't (he still offers the same percentages to trust accounts, which means in the end the majority of the market will invest through these, causing Pirate to pay the same rates as he did before) it makes you look like you're covering something up .... I'm not in the top tier, but I prefer to deal with pirate directly. Using "the market" adds additional risk. Pirate's stated average interest is far below top tier. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: wachtwoord on July 29, 2012, 11:08:41 PM Okay, then I just have to say I severely doubt that is where the market will find an equilibrium. I will confide that markets are known to do crazy things so me being wrong has a non-zero chance.
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: iCEBREAKER on July 29, 2012, 11:28:30 PM Oh really? http://www.talentzoo.com/digital-pivot/blog_news.php?articleID=6221 Quote In general, courts globally seem to be treating virtual crime just as they would any real-world crime: If a person is found guilty of stealing, killing, ruining, or otherwise destroying an online-gaming experience for a person or group of persons, the penalties enacted will be similar to punishment of real-world crime, with noted exceptions. For example, killing an avatar will not be met with a life sentence in prison. However, the monetary loss sustained by the player will be comparable to real-world money loss, and criminals will end up with fines, probation, or even jail. Hedge #1 "In general" Hedge #2 "seem to be" Two hedges for one sentence = weak sauce. Then there's the part you didn't quote: Quote "Complaints about people’s identities and possessions being stolen within a game have been made before," said Rob Fahey, games analyst and former editor of gamesindustry.biz. "But because it exists only in a virtual world it is hard to say whether they are of any real value in the real world. The resale of characters and their possessions is often against the rules set down by the makers of the games, but there are no criminal laws banning it. tl;dr U FAIL Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: rjk on July 29, 2012, 11:33:59 PM Oh really? http://www.talentzoo.com/digital-pivot/blog_news.php?articleID=6221 Quote In general, courts globally seem to be treating virtual crime just as they would any real-world crime: If a person is found guilty of stealing, killing, ruining, or otherwise destroying an online-gaming experience for a person or group of persons, the penalties enacted will be similar to punishment of real-world crime, with noted exceptions. For example, killing an avatar will not be met with a life sentence in prison. However, the monetary loss sustained by the player will be comparable to real-world money loss, and criminals will end up with fines, probation, or even jail. Hedge #1 "In general" Hedge #2 "seem to be" Two hedges for one sentence = weak sauce. Then there's the part you didn't quote: Quote "Complaints about people’s identities and possessions being stolen within a game have been made before," said Rob Fahey, games analyst and former editor of gamesindustry.biz. "But because it exists only in a virtual world it is hard to say whether they are of any real value in the real world. The resale of characters and their possessions is often against the rules set down by the makers of the games, but there are no criminal laws banning it. tl;dr U FAIL Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Frankie on July 29, 2012, 11:45:58 PM And Vladimir used to be so level headed. This sure has got his panties in a bunch. He's not the only one that's started living full time in BTC Fantasy Land. You can tell which ones have gone off the deep end easily. They're the ones who actually believe that the Police Cops are going to ring up Interpol's cybercrime unit for the sake of tracking down their stolen/scammed BTC. As if any law enforcement agency in the world has a Cryptocoin Recovery Division, or cares in the least about their Magic Internet Money. They've completely lost it ('it' being contact with consensus reality). ::) I agree that it's unlikely Pirate (let alone his enablers and promoters) go to jail over this, but it's not because of the currency. Many actionable Ponzi schemes are denominated in irreversible online currencies like Liberty Reserve, and if there was enough loss in this scheme, I'm sure it would land on radars. Although ~$1 million is a significant proportion of the bitcoin economy, it's not really much for a Ponzi scheme. http://www.ponzitracker.com/ Most of the victims are likely small fry kids playing on their parents computer and indirectly through PPTs (these aren't seniors losing their life savings here). Add to it the difficulty of proving that some person corresponds to the screen name and proving the transactions, and it's not a very appetizing case. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Shadow383 on July 30, 2012, 12:04:04 AM Looks mostly the same as it did when I first invested many months ago. Now the interest rates are lower, payouts are less often, and it's still a great return. Nobody expects this to last forever and pirateat40 has demonstrated several times he will adjust his interest rate down as his profit margins are squeezed by competition. I have had several private conversations with pirate and I am fairly confident of at least two legitimate revenue streams he has, and I suspect two others. None are illegal as far as I know, and despite weeks of screaming, nobody has been able to provide one scrap of evidence to the contrary. I will not provide more information about what I believe he is doing other than the obvious (gpumax) because competition will reduce his profits and thus my payouts. I know it's tempting to believe something that's too good to be true if it's making you money, but let's examine that statement:Let's say I tell you I have a business that turns over $10 million a year that you can invest in and I'll pay you very high returns. "How about some accounts?" you say. No chance, my finances are private. "Okay, what is your business doing?" you say. Not telling, you'd steal my idea. "Okay, why don't you let me speak to some of your customers?" you say. I'm sorry, my customers are very private people. "Right, well can I see some ID for you?" you say. No, sorry, my name is Captain Gobblescoque, please refer to me as that. "Okay, how about a picture so I can at least see what you look like". No, Captain Gobblescoque is a very private person. Do you: A- Call me a lying sack of shit and tell me to stick my investment plan somewhere painful. B- Give me all of your money and tell other people how amazing I am and that they should also give me all of their money, to the tune of millions of dollars. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Vandroiy on July 30, 2012, 12:09:15 AM Guys, can we focus on Vegas for now? I see it's partially my fault this got so derailed, and that we'd be better get back on track. There will be enough angry people who try to sue someone later on.
It would help if other DefCon attendees would say something. Tuxavant mentioned at least two other people who were still waiting for Pirateat40 to show up. Could any of those please speak up? Does anyone know people who might have been there? Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Spekulatius on July 30, 2012, 12:23:40 AM In Vegas:
teflone, BitBlitz, Casascius, Micon (local in Vegas), Scared, Andrew Bitcoiner, ..? Not sure if any and all of the above mentioned actually attended Defcon or just met privately outside of it. The names are taken from this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=90726.20 also: DrHaribo (post #64, 125 of this thread) Attending Defcon: - gigavps (self disclosed) - goat (self disclosed) - TORwallet (self disclosed #38,39) anyone else?? Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: iCEBREAKER on July 30, 2012, 01:15:16 AM Right, so you are ignoring the actual case law rulings (granted, Dutch law, but so what), and instead pointing out other parts of the article that don't have any bearing on Bitcoin outside of games. I would say you are the one that is failing here. You are extrapolating the actions of one quirky judge in Holland, who made some bizarre ruling about virtual amulets and online runes, four years ago, to mean that a generic District Attorney and average Grand Jury would accept an indictment based on accusations of Magic Internet Money fraud/theft? Wow. Please, for the love of comedy, provide us with a transcript of your conversation when you report Pirate or whatever Bit Bandit to (what passes for, in your feverish, cloistered worldview) the Proper Authorities. ;) Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: dooglus on July 30, 2012, 01:45:35 AM Nor did pirate say that he was attending DefCon, he just said he was going to Vegas. For all we know, he may be putting all the BS&T funds on red at the roulette table in a desperate attempt to keep his scheme afloat. In that case, pirate may be lucky and can prolong his scheme long enough to win his bet with vandroiy. Note that the bet doesn't end until October 1 2013 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=91661.msg1013612#msg1013612), so putting it on red wouldn't be enough. He's going to have to put it on a number. Would 36x be enough to last until October? Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: teflone on July 30, 2012, 04:16:54 AM In Vegas: teflone, BitBlitz, Casascius, Micon (local in Vegas), Scared, Andrew Bitcoiner, ..? Not sure if any and all of the above mentioned actually attended Defcon or just met privately outside of it. The names are taken from this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=90726.20 also: DrHaribo (post #64, 125 of this thread) Attending Defcon: - gigavps (self disclosed) - goat (self disclosed) - TORwallet (self disclosed #38,39) anyone else?? Met a few great bitcoiners... Tux, Bitblitz, Andrew, and Alex... You guys made my trip.. :) Where was Pirate.... we dont know... Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: notme on July 30, 2012, 04:19:50 AM Looks mostly the same as it did when I first invested many months ago. Now the interest rates are lower, payouts are less often, and it's still a great return. Nobody expects this to last forever and pirateat40 has demonstrated several times he will adjust his interest rate down as his profit margins are squeezed by competition. I have had several private conversations with pirate and I am fairly confident of at least two legitimate revenue streams he has, and I suspect two others. None are illegal as far as I know, and despite weeks of screaming, nobody has been able to provide one scrap of evidence to the contrary. I will not provide more information about what I believe he is doing other than the obvious (gpumax) because competition will reduce his profits and thus my payouts. I know it's tempting to believe something that's too good to be true if it's making you money, but let's examine that statement:Let's say I tell you I have a business that turns over $10 million a year that you can invest in and I'll pay you very high returns. "How about some accounts?" you say. No chance, my finances are private. "Okay, what is your business doing?" you say. Not telling, you'd steal my idea. "Okay, why don't you let me speak to some of your customers?" you say. I'm sorry, my customers are very private people. "Right, well can I see some ID for you?" you say. No, sorry, my name is Captain Gobblescoque, please refer to me as that. "Okay, how about a picture so I can at least see what you look like". No, Captain Gobblescoque is a very private person. Do you: A- Call me a lying sack of shit and tell me to stick my investment plan somewhere painful. B- Give me all of your money and tell other people how amazing I am and that they should also give me all of their money, to the tune of millions of dollars. 1. I have had private conversations with pirate about what he's doing. No, I won't share. 2. I have never encouraged anyone to invest their money with pirate. Nor does he hold all my money. 3. I have asked people to quit spamming the same points repeatedly and also to provide evidence for their claims. My requests have been in vain. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: jamesg on July 30, 2012, 07:08:10 AM It seems that many of the posts since my "I've seen a pirate post" claim that I am somehow lying or misleading people on the forums. Here is the simple truth.
I brought my brother-in-law to Vegas to hang out and meet some people related to bitcoin. We've had the opportunity to meet pirateat40, reeses, Goat, copumpkin, pidgeons, Coinabul, Partrick from Intersango, OneFixt and his girlfriend, BurtW and Scared. I've probably missed a few people in the list. I must say, meeting all of these people has been a pretty awesome experience. Pirate is a nice guy and we had a great time playing craps (BurtW taught pirate, Goat and I how to pay), roulette and 3 card poker. I also got to spend some time in the poker room with OneFixt. We've eaten dinner together, talked bitcoin and it's future and played some games in the casino. Does this make me an expert in what pirate does? No. For all of you that claim that because I've met pirateat40 I am now somehow responsible for his actions, well, you're logic is flawed. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: farfiman on July 30, 2012, 07:13:05 AM I guess people just what to know what you think... does he look like he will walk away tomorrow with all the coins or not.
The whole bitcoin community is holding their breath waiting for info... ( they do anyway every monday now even more so...) Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: finkleshnorts on July 30, 2012, 07:21:05 AM It seems that many of the posts since my "I've seen a pirate post" claim that I am somehow lying or misleading people on the forums. Here is the simple truth. I brought my brother-in-law to Vegas to hang out and meet some people related to bitcoin. We've had the opportunity to meet pirateat40, reeses, Goat, copumpkin, pidgeons, Coinabul, Partrick from Intersango, OneFixt and his girlfriend, BurtW and Scared. I've probably missed a few people in the list. I must say, meeting all of these people has been a pretty awesome experience. Pirate is a nice guy and we had a great time playing craps (BurtW taught pirate, Goat and I how to pay), roulette and 3 card poker. I also got to spend some time in the poker room with OneFixt. We've eaten dinner together, talked bitcoin and it's future and played some games in the casino. Does this make me an expert in what pirate does? No. For all of you that claim that because I've met pirateat40 I am now somehow responsible for his actions, well, you're logic is flawed. Thank you for posting this! I've been waiting to hear something, anything. It was so strange to me that Goat's posts were deleted. I'm glad yall had a blast. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: mc_lovin on July 30, 2012, 07:27:44 AM gigavps, great to hear you had a blast! it's funny to hear a meetup turn into an investigation lmao.
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: the joint on July 30, 2012, 07:34:20 AM It seems that many of the posts since my "I've seen a pirate post" claim that I am somehow lying or misleading people on the forums. Here is the simple truth. I brought my brother-in-law to Vegas to hang out and meet some people related to bitcoin. We've had the opportunity to meet pirateat40, reeses, Goat, copumpkin, pidgeons, Coinabul, Partrick from Intersango, OneFixt and his girlfriend, BurtW and Scared. I've probably missed a few people in the list. I must say, meeting all of these people has been a pretty awesome experience. Pirate is a nice guy and we had a great time playing craps (BurtW taught pirate, Goat and I how to pay), roulette and 3 card poker. I also got to spend some time in the poker room with OneFixt. We've eaten dinner together, talked bitcoin and it's future and played some games in the casino. Does this make me an expert in what pirate does? No. For all of you that claim that because I've met pirateat40 I am now somehow responsible for his actions, well, you're logic is flawed. Perhaps I can clarify the problem here. Nobody here, except for a select few, really have any idea of what Pirate does. Furthermore, he is responsible for a lot of peoples' money. Also, nobody here, except for a select few, have any sum of Bitcoins anywhere near the amount that Pirate, you, Goat, and likely several of the other ones that flew to Vegas have. Additionally, many that flew to Vegas are some of Pirate's 'first in line' if you will -- they run pass-throughs and/or have very early Pirate accounts. Consider how this appears from those outside looking in. Some of the biggest names in Bitcoin meet with the 'biggest dog' (known, that is) in Bitcoin. Yet, after this meeting, not much at all is said. For example, nothing is said about... 1) If Pirate appears as he does in the photos that are believed to be of him 2) If Pirate discussed his operations or continuing plans for operation with those who attended 3) If Pirate seems (opinion, of course) as though he is acting in the best interest of his lenders 4) If Pirate seems (opinion, of course) as though he is acting in the best interest of Bitcoin And thus many of us are left to wonder... 1) Is Pirate going to steal everyone's money? E.G. by selling all BTC and crashing the market, killing everyone's investments. 2) Are there others on the Bitcoin forum who are working as a part of Pirate's operation (i.e. they do more than lend Pirate BTC) 3) Is Pirate (or others) deliberately trying to to mask his identity? Etc., etc., etc. Here's the thing. Pirate has said things like "I'm looking to pull one bigger than my Bitcoin." It's a big mistake for him to say something like this. As I've said before, I'm almost completely sure about what Pirate does, but when he makes statements like that, it's really quite stupid of him if he wants to be truly successful. It was solely because of those types of comments that I withdrew my PPT investments. I don't even think Pirate has even said something along the lines of, "To my lenders -- I have your best interest at heart." To people that have a lot of money to begin with (i.e. those that flew to Vegas), it's easy to say "have trust in actions!" and forget the words, but to those without a lot of money, those words cast a large shadow of doubt. Pirate's operation is called Bitcoin Savings & Trust. We're trying to access that trust part. Some of us don't have the time or money to fly to Vegas to check the guy out. Would I have gone if I had the opportunity? Yes, yes I would have. But that possibility was unrealistic. Now, with regards to you, GigaVPS, we assume that you are a lender, just like us, and are no different than the rest of us in the sense that we assume that you are a simple Pirate investor. However, vague responses like "I have seen a Pirate, and he looks like a Pirate," while ultimately playful in nature, appear much different to the rest of the community. It seems as though you are intentionally hiding something, or that Pirate has asked that you not reveal too much about what was discussed, etc. Given that this forum has been virtually obsessed with Pirate's operation for the last 2 months, you have an opportunity to help relieve some of the community's worries. Care to help us out a bit? On a side note, Pirate, if you're reading this, consider what I just said. You could actually have more investors deposit (more than you do already, thus allowing yourself the opportunity to profit even more) if you yourself alleviated some of these worries rather than displaying your typical brazen attitude. That attitude might work because you have leverage, and you have the leverage you do because of your wealthiest lenders. But, there are little guys here too who prefer reassurance rather than brazenness. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: teflone on July 30, 2012, 07:58:24 AM It seems that many of the posts since my "I've seen a pirate post" claim that I am somehow lying or misleading people on the forums. Here is the simple truth. I brought my brother-in-law to Vegas to hang out and meet some people related to bitcoin. We've had the opportunity to meet pirateat40, reeses, Goat, copumpkin, pidgeons, Coinabul, Partrick from Intersango, OneFixt and his girlfriend, BurtW and Scared. I've probably missed a few people in the list. I must say, meeting all of these people has been a pretty awesome experience. Pirate is a nice guy and we had a great time playing craps (BurtW taught pirate, Goat and I how to pay), roulette and 3 card poker. I also got to spend some time in the poker room with OneFixt. We've eaten dinner together, talked bitcoin and it's future and played some games in the casino. Does this make me an expert in what pirate does? No. For all of you that claim that because I've met pirateat40 I am now somehow responsible for his actions, well, you're logic is flawed. Thanks for the invite guys, that showed some real top class elitism... Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Kluge on July 30, 2012, 08:13:58 AM It seems that many of the posts since my "I've seen a pirate post" claim that I am somehow lying or misleading people on the forums. Here is the simple truth. I brought my brother-in-law to Vegas to hang out and meet some people related to bitcoin. We've had the opportunity to meet pirateat40, reeses, Goat, copumpkin, pidgeons, Coinabul, Partrick from Intersango, OneFixt and his girlfriend, BurtW and Scared. I've probably missed a few people in the list. I must say, meeting all of these people has been a pretty awesome experience. Pirate is a nice guy and we had a great time playing craps (BurtW taught pirate, Goat and I how to pay), roulette and 3 card poker. I also got to spend some time in the poker room with OneFixt. We've eaten dinner together, talked bitcoin and it's future and played some games in the casino. Does this make me an expert in what pirate does? No. For all of you that claim that because I've met pirateat40 I am now somehow responsible for his actions, well, you're logic is flawed. Thanks for the invite guys, that showed some real top class elitism... ETA: Oh... Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: teflone on July 30, 2012, 08:16:40 AM It seems that many of the posts since my "I've seen a pirate post" claim that I am somehow lying or misleading people on the forums. Here is the simple truth. I brought my brother-in-law to Vegas to hang out and meet some people related to bitcoin. We've had the opportunity to meet pirateat40, reeses, Goat, copumpkin, pidgeons, Coinabul, Partrick from Intersango, OneFixt and his girlfriend, BurtW and Scared. I've probably missed a few people in the list. I must say, meeting all of these people has been a pretty awesome experience. Pirate is a nice guy and we had a great time playing craps (BurtW taught pirate, Goat and I how to pay), roulette and 3 card poker. I also got to spend some time in the poker room with OneFixt. We've eaten dinner together, talked bitcoin and it's future and played some games in the casino. Does this make me an expert in what pirate does? No. For all of you that claim that because I've met pirateat40 I am now somehow responsible for his actions, well, you're logic is flawed. Thanks for the invite guys, that showed some real top class elitism... He took my number... said he would call with details.. Its all good I see how this works now, us common folk were not welcome I guess... Solid! :) Two groups of Bitcoiners meeting up in the same conference and not intersocializing between the two.. Laughable... I really really enjoyed the bitcoiners I did meet, great people, talking with them about bitcoin truly made my trip, and I thank them all. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: RoloTonyBrownTown on July 30, 2012, 09:09:13 AM Good stuff, thanks Giga :)
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Sukrim on July 30, 2012, 09:24:28 AM It seems that many of the posts since my "I've seen a pirate post" claim that I am somehow lying or misleading people on the forums. Here is the simple truth. Thanks for posting facts as well! :)I brought my brother-in-law to Vegas to hang out and meet some people related to bitcoin. We've had the opportunity to meet pirateat40, reeses, Goat, copumpkin, pidgeons, Coinabul, Partrick from Intersango, OneFixt and his girlfriend, BurtW and Scared. I've probably missed a few people in the list. I must say, meeting all of these people has been a pretty awesome experience. Pirate is a nice guy and we had a great time playing craps (BurtW taught pirate, Goat and I how to pay), roulette and 3 card poker. I also got to spend some time in the poker room with OneFixt. We've eaten dinner together, talked bitcoin and it's future and played some games in the casino. Does this make me an expert in what pirate does? No. For all of you that claim that because I've met pirateat40 I am now somehow responsible for his actions, well, you're logic is flawed. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Vandroiy on July 30, 2012, 10:31:16 AM Pirate's operation is called Bitcoin Savings & Trust. We're trying to access that trust part. Some of us don't have the time or money to fly to Vegas to check the guy out. Would I have gone if I had the opportunity? Yes, yes I would have. But that possibility was unrealistic. Chances are you would not have been invited, just like teflone. He was the first to answer to this thread, and seemed the most interested user. And then what? Oops, forgotten to call? Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Turbor on July 30, 2012, 10:38:36 AM Pirate's operation is called Bitcoin Savings & Trust. We're trying to access that trust part. Some of us don't have the time or money to fly to Vegas to check the guy out. Would I have gone if I had the opportunity? Yes, yes I would have. But that possibility was unrealistic. Chances are you would not have been invited, just like teflone. He was the first to answer to this thread, and seemed the most interested user. And then what? Oops, forgotten to call? Sometimes you just have to try harder if you really want something to happen. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: aq on July 30, 2012, 10:47:30 AM I can confirm BurtW did teach us how to play Craps. It seems that actually pirate "teached" BurtW how to really play craps :D https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=94900.msg1064624#msg1064624 Certainly, between them they must control what? $300k in coins? More? More.Also I'm not quite up to date - what's the situation with the Vegas show Pirate's supposed to be appearing at? Just got back. Had a fantastic time. Met a lot of great guys in person that I had only known through this forum, various IRC and Skype rooms. Had a long chat with pirateat40 over dinner. We played craps for hours together. At one point when we were down a few thousand he made the bet that ALL the other numbers would roll before a 7. I believe this bet pays 178 for 1 and I tried to talk him out of this "sucker bet". The very next shooter got on a very hot roll and made pass after pass. At one point I looked over at the running bet and it turned out that every number had come up (before a 7 out) except the 5. I asked the shooter to "roll us a 5 please", Pirate offered him $100 to do it on the next roll and I will be damned, he rolled a 5! We had a fantatic night, Goat saw the whole thing and can verify my story.Rode the NYNY roller coaster with copumpkin three time in row. Met Reeses, one of the funniest people I have ever met. Goat, Gigavps, and several others. Obviously I am biased since I am one of the six owners of the PPT.x zero coupon bond system (see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=76594.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=76594.0) for more details.) I am still pissed we did not make the list. We were the first to market. We coined the term PPT for "Pirate Pass Through". I think we deserve the free advertising just as much of more than any of the other "PPTs". The point is: if you are so concerned about all this why the hell didn't you show up and chat with Pirate in person yourself? Why didn't all the "anti-pirate" crowd not send even one single representative to Vegas? I got my airline ticket at the last minute and got the flight and hotel for less than 500 bucks. Surely, between the lot of you anti-pirates you could have scrounged together $500 to send one guy to meet him and report back to your clan. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: btctraderr on July 30, 2012, 11:20:23 AM Why is nobody addressing the questions in this thread? We don't really care that you all sat round a table and played craps. This is not important. The purpose of this thread, and probably some of the members who attended this conference was to determine the nature of what pirate runs and if what he does is secure for the long term. Can you answer this?
If you cannot answer these questions or after talking to him still don't know the answer then say so. It's not hard. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Shadow383 on July 30, 2012, 11:59:04 AM Why is nobody addressing the questions in this thread? We don't really care that you all sat round a table and played craps. This is not important. The purpose of this thread, and probably some of the members who attended this conference was to determine the nature of what pirate runs and if what he does is secure for the long term. Can you answer this? If you cannot answer these questions or after talking to him still don't know the answer then say so. It's not hard. Most of us already know what Pirate does, we have known for months. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: hazek on July 30, 2012, 12:19:20 PM Why is nobody addressing the questions in this thread? We don't really care that you all sat round a table and played craps. This is not important. The purpose of this thread, and probably some of the members who attended this conference was to determine the nature of what pirate runs and if what he does is secure for the long term. Can you answer this? If you cannot answer these questions or after talking to him still don't know the answer then say so. It's not hard. Most of us already know what Pirate does, we have known for months. I did not go to unlocked the secrets of Pirate. He has been very open about what he does. My personal funds will stay with pirate. I went to Vegas cuz I have never been and thought this would be an epic time to go. It was legendary:) Let me just quote you on this for the record so that if it turns out it was stealing or defrauding people, you admitted being an accessory to the crime. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Bitcoin Oz on July 30, 2012, 12:34:41 PM Why is nobody addressing the questions in this thread? We don't really care that you all sat round a table and played craps. This is not important. The purpose of this thread, and probably some of the members who attended this conference was to determine the nature of what pirate runs and if what he does is secure for the long term. Can you answer this? If you cannot answer these questions or after talking to him still don't know the answer then say so. It's not hard. If they tell you then everyone will begin doing it :) Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: btctraderr on July 30, 2012, 12:43:26 PM Why is nobody addressing the questions in this thread? We don't really care that you all sat round a table and played craps. This is not important. The purpose of this thread, and probably some of the members who attended this conference was to determine the nature of what pirate runs and if what he does is secure for the long term. Can you answer this? If you cannot answer these questions or after talking to him still don't know the answer then say so. It's not hard. If they tell you then everyone will begin doing it :) Well if 'they' 'know' then whats to stop the from doing it aswell? If they know, and can't/don't want to tell us then say so. Ambiguous comments will just fuel further speculation and accusations. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Serge on July 30, 2012, 01:15:57 PM If some of you guys expected anything else from this thread - you are being naive.
Anyone who went there, went to have some fun, meet people and take time off. Glad you had a blast! Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: notme on July 30, 2012, 04:05:33 PM Why is nobody addressing the questions in this thread? We don't really care that you all sat round a table and played craps. This is not important. The purpose of this thread, and probably some of the members who attended this conference was to determine the nature of what pirate runs and if what he does is secure for the long term. Can you answer this? If you cannot answer these questions or after talking to him still don't know the answer then say so. It's not hard. Most of us already know what Pirate does, we have known for months. I did not go to unlocked the secrets of Pirate. He has been very open about what he does. LIKE THIS My personal funds will stay with pirate. I went to Vegas cuz I have never been and thought this would be an epic time to go. It was legendary:) Let me just quote you on this for the record so that if it turns out it was stealing or defrauding people, you admitted being an accessory to the crime. Right, because totally can't edit other people's posts when you quote them. That will hold up well ::). Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: notme on July 30, 2012, 04:10:46 PM Why is nobody addressing the questions in this thread? We don't really care that you all sat round a table and played craps. This is not important. The purpose of this thread, and probably some of the members who attended this conference was to determine the nature of what pirate runs and if what he does is secure for the long term. Can you answer this? If you cannot answer these questions or after talking to him still don't know the answer then say so. It's not hard. If they tell you then everyone will begin doing it :) Well if 'they' 'know' then whats to stop the from doing it aswell? If they know, and can't/don't want to tell us then say so. Ambiguous comments will just fuel further speculation and accusations. Because I've got other shit to do and pirateat40 pays me enough to let him handle it. Sure, if he were more open he could potentially get more investors, but he would definitely have more competition. Also, I'm not sure he needs more investors. OMG, it might not be a ponzi :P. Seriously, if it was a ponzi, don't you think he would take some of the advice about reassuring new investors? In other words, pirate's sitting pretty and doesn't need to give a shit about all the people with nothing better to do than brainstorm crazy ass theories. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: byronbb on July 30, 2012, 04:14:38 PM Perhaps the pirate is a group of people. Then when the ponzi collapses everyone is looking for a non-existent pirate. Of course I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Muis on July 30, 2012, 04:17:35 PM Also, I'm not sure he needs more investors. Since he is lifting all referral restrictions in August, doesn't it seems like it? Seriously, if it was a ponzi, don't you think he would take some of the advice about reassuring new investors? He doesn't need to find new investors himself, he delegated that job to all the passtrough-programs. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: notme on July 30, 2012, 04:29:02 PM Also, I'm not sure he needs more investors. Since he is lifting all referral restrictions in August, doesn't it seems like it? Meh, seems like he's finally going to have a more robust website that will make the marginal cost of having another lender lower. Quote Seriously, if it was a ponzi, don't you think he would take some of the advice about reassuring new investors? He doesn't need to find new investors himself, he delegated that job to all the passtrough-programs. Anyone who invests with a pass through without trusting the pirate needs their brain checked. The pass throughs are honest about where the money is invested. Quote Perhaps the pirate is a group of people. I don't think so, but at least it would explain why gigavps is so consistently talking about *a* pirate. ::) Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: wachtwoord on July 30, 2012, 04:33:45 PM As Goat said, with a little thought I had figured out what he was doing before I went. I must be too stupid to figure it out then. Quick question though: If I would have figured out how to make 10% on a weekly basis with minimal risk I would have leveraged my ass off, halted all my other activities and performed the scheme for a year straight. After this (or may be a bit sooner) I would have handed it over to a friend I completely trust for a fee and spent the rest of my days traveling the globe with my my multi million dollar equivalent of buying power. You say you know what he does. So why don't you? Edit: Sorry about the overall tone of the post. It usually takes a lot to annoy me but everyone has his buttons to press. Calling something which I find complicated I put considerable effort in trying to resolve "simple" is one of my buttons. It's like reading a paper where it says "it is trivial to see" after which I need several hours to deduce what is so trivial to see. Infuriating :D Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: jamesg on July 30, 2012, 04:42:57 PM Consider how this appears from those outside looking in. Some of the biggest names in Bitcoin meet with the 'biggest dog' (known, that is) in Bitcoin. Yet, after this meeting, not much at all is said. Thanks for your post. I can appreciate you being open and honest about your desire for me to confirm or deny facts. Consider my point of view though. I would like to think that I have a pretty good reputation on the forums because I have always tried to be helpful, share information and be respectful (most of the time). I hope I have earned this respect / trust over the last year and I would like to think that it is worth something. That said, all of pirate's detractors here on the forums are on a witch hunt. If I confirm or deny ANYTHING, they will twist what I say to fit their point of view and keep the flame war going. So, I am in the unenviable position of "damned if I do, damned if I don't". The hostile environment created here is not conducive to sharing information in a way that is either helpful or respectful. I have confirmed along with others on the forums that pirateat40 showed up and we had a good time. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: wachtwoord on July 30, 2012, 04:47:16 PM Well it kinda is insulting as I used the exact same strategy. It could be the insult is justified of course, but that doesn't make it less annoying ;)
Curiosity killed the cat. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: imsaguy on July 30, 2012, 04:47:24 PM That said, all of pirate's detractors here on the forums are on a witch hunt. If I confirm or deny ANYTHING, they will twist what I say to fit their point of view and keep the flame war going. So, I am in the unenviable position of "damned if I do, damned if I don't". The hostile environment created here is not conducive to sharing information in a way that is either helpful or respectful. +10 Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Draino on July 30, 2012, 05:11:46 PM Consider how this appears from those outside looking in. That said, all of pirate's detractors here on the forums are on a witch hunt. If I confirm or deny ANYTHING, they will twist what I say to fit their point of view and keep the flame war going. So, I am in the unenviable position of "damned if I do, damned if I don't". The hostile environment created here is not conducive to sharing information in a way that is either helpful or respectful. all publicly disclosed info about pirate's operation quacks like a duck. ducks are illegal and damaging to almost everyone that goes near, and some people *really* hate them, so they're going to scream every time they hear another quack. saying you're not a duck doesn't prove anything, and saying you know he's not a duck and that we can trust him—because he pays you (on time!)—doesn't prove anything. basically, take the heat and enjoy your money imo. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Epoch on July 30, 2012, 05:24:42 PM ... The Joint, that was an eloquent post. It really sums up a lot of things well, and I thoroughly enjoyed reading it. I thought it worth mentioning that.Consider how this appears from those outside looking in. Some of the biggest names in Bitcoin meet with the 'biggest dog' (known, that is) in Bitcoin. Yet, after this meeting, not much at all is said. For example, nothing is said about... 1) If Pirate appears as he does in the photos that are believed to be of him 2) If Pirate discussed his operations or continuing plans for operation with those who attended 3) If Pirate seems (opinion, of course) as though he is acting in the best interest of his lenders 4) If Pirate seems (opinion, of course) as though he is acting in the best interest of Bitcoin ... Here's the thing. Pirate has said things like "I'm looking to pull one bigger than my Bitcoin." It's a big mistake for him to say something like this. As I've said before, I'm almost completely sure about what Pirate does, but when he makes statements like that, it's really quite stupid of him if he wants to be truly successful. It was solely because of those types of comments that I withdrew my PPT investments. I don't even think Pirate has even said something along the lines of, "To my lenders -- I have your best interest at heart." To people that have a lot of money to begin with (i.e. those that flew to Vegas), it's easy to say "have trust in actions!" and forget the words, but to those without a lot of money, those words cast a large shadow of doubt. Pirate's operation is called Bitcoin Savings & Trust. We're trying to access that trust part. Some of us don't have the time or money to fly to Vegas to check the guy out. Would I have gone if I had the opportunity? Yes, yes I would have. But that possibility was unrealistic. Now, with regards to you, GigaVPS, we assume that you are a lender, just like us, and are no different than the rest of us in the sense that we assume that you are a simple Pirate investor. However, vague responses like "I have seen a Pirate, and he looks like a Pirate," while ultimately playful in nature, appear much different to the rest of the community. It seems as though you are intentionally hiding something, or that Pirate has asked that you not reveal too much about what was discussed, etc. Given that this forum has been virtually obsessed with Pirate's operation for the last 2 months, you have an opportunity to help relieve some of the community's worries. Care to help us out a bit? On a side note, Pirate, if you're reading this, consider what I just said. You could actually have more investors deposit (more than you do already, thus allowing yourself the opportunity to profit even more) if you yourself alleviated some of these worries rather than displaying your typical brazen attitude. That attitude might work because you have leverage, and you have the leverage you do because of your wealthiest lenders. But, there are little guys here too who prefer reassurance rather than brazenness. I sincerely hope at least some of your (and, by extension, many peoples') honest, genuine, and reasonable concerns will eventually be adequately addressed by those with the credibility, integrity, and morality to do so. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: koin on July 30, 2012, 05:46:42 PM I will use this window of opportunity and I offer the opportunity to others thought the PPT.x bond system. since you've never met nefario, did anyone verify that your real-life identity matches the id glbse has on file? this will be useful since if anyone loses money on ppt.x they can go after you personally. what you are selling each week is debt. you are in a partnership that is selling debt. with a partnership, each partner is jointly and severaly liable for the fully amount of the debt. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: hazek on July 30, 2012, 05:56:21 PM This is how I read the following post:
I would have posted here sooner but, in fact, I just learned about this thread. My "trip report" has already been copied. As Goat said, with a little thought I had figured out what he was doing before I went. I went for a good time - and had one. We did talk "business" a bit and that was fun. I do appreciate the long post from The Joint because it is genuine and not just another "this is an obvious ponzi, I know everything, you are all stupid" post so I promise to answer the questions in it but I have to go to my day job now. I met pirate, he is real and legit and I will answer ANY questions you'd like.. Quote I will quickly give you the simple stategy I used to figure it out. If you try to figure out what he does and how it works from the assumption that it is impossible then, well, you obviously will never figure it out. When I re-read everything he has ever posted from the working assumption that what he is doing is possible this left my mind open and able to figure it out. Just do that, assume it is possible, go to his profile, read every post. Try it. ..but hey, you don't really need my answer, you can find them yourself, you just have to believe it's possible to be legit and pay what pirate pays. Now have faith and go read his every post.. Quote How much he reveals or does not reveal (and he actually reveals a lot) is up to him. So no, I will not reveal what it is. Get off you lazy ass and figure it out for yourself just like I did. ..in fact, I wont even tell you anything because it's that easy to "figure it out", and if you can't, well then that's pirates decision and your just SOL... Quote One final note: eventually others will figure it out, do it, and with competition we can all say goodbye to the great returns. You all know where I stand. I will use this window of opportunity and I offer the opportunity to others thought the PPT.x bond system. If you don't want to invest then don't. If you do invest in anything, Facebook, Google, BS&T, US treasury bonds, don't ever invest more than you can afford to lose - there is risk in every investment. .. so you see, it's all transparent really which is why you only have a limited time to take advantage of this excellent "opportunity" so go on, call 080-pirate-ponzi now, and "invest" your money ASAP. But don't say we didn't warn you, you might lose everything because it actually is a ponzi.. but hey, you can lose money doing anything, right? Why not lose it with us.. Quote Carry on with your ponzi shill screaming now, I am sure that is enough fodder to keep you going for a few days. EDIT: a little more specific on the frame of mind to be in when you read the posts. Your answer must be totally allowed by all US law and something your wife, who is an attorney for the sake of this exercise, would not only let you do but would endorse. Hint: you must really really believe it and don't tell it to anyone otherwise it wont come true.. ::) Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: teflone on July 30, 2012, 06:33:04 PM Cant wait for next years snub! :) Im excited...
After this I will be sure to invest all my money with all of you guys and your businesses, your truly a stand up crowd, and Im glad you ultimately showed your social attitudes to people outside your little clique.. I have all the information I need.. Cheers.. PS. I wasnt here to witch hunt anyone, specially not Pirate, I was here to talk with some of the more outspoken bitcoiners, this is what I love to do, and of the few I did meet, I loved every minute of it.. Its a shame we all couldnt have sat down together. On another note.. I bought a Cas Coin, I like it, looks nice, I'd like to add. Didnt mind paying 15 bucks for it either.. It came in handy talking about bitcoin.. Some people just need to see something physical. Im not lumping Cassasius into the elitism crowd, I just would have like to met you.. ;) Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: BoardGameCoin on July 30, 2012, 06:37:23 PM Cant wait for next years snub! :) Im excited... After this I will be sure to invest all my money with all of you guys and your businesses, your truly a stand up crowd, and Im glad you ultimately showed your social attitudes to people outside your little clique.. I have all the information I need.. Cheers.. teflone: is this sarcastic or not? tone doesn't transfer well on the internetz. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Mike Jones on July 30, 2012, 06:38:51 PM Cant wait for next years snub! :) Im excited... After this I will be sure to invest all my money with all of you guys and your businesses, your truly a stand up crowd, and Im glad you ultimately showed your social attitudes to people outside your little clique.. I have all the information I need.. Cheers.. teflone: is this sarcastic or not? tone doesn't transfer well on the internetz. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: notme on July 30, 2012, 06:39:54 PM Cant wait for next years snub! :) Im excited... After this I will be sure to invest all my money with all of you guys and your businesses, your truly a stand up crowd, and Im glad you ultimately showed your social attitudes to people outside your little clique.. I have all the information I need.. Cheers.. teflone: is this sarcastic or not? tone doesn't transfer well on the internetz. Why would he seriously be excited to be snubbed? Hint: yes, it's sarcastic Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Shadow383 on July 30, 2012, 07:04:42 PM Okay, here's a different question:
Has anyone who isn't affiliated with a pirate pass-through of some sort come forward and said that they met him in Vegas? Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: finkleshnorts on July 30, 2012, 07:06:37 PM Okay, here's a different question: Has anyone who isn't affiliated with a pirate pass-through of some sort come forward and said that they met him in Vegas? Cmon dude, he was there. This isn't Oliver Stone's JFK. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: notme on July 30, 2012, 07:11:59 PM Okay, here's a different question: Has anyone who isn't affiliated with a pirate pass-through of some sort come forward and said that they met him in Vegas? I'm affiliated with a pass through and I did not meet him in Vegas. Does that help? Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: BoardGameCoin on July 30, 2012, 07:13:32 PM Okay, here's a different question: Has anyone who isn't affiliated with a pirate pass-through of some sort come forward and said that they met him in Vegas? Cmon dude, he was there. This isn't Oliver Stone's JFK. really honest bob? It seems a relevant question, regardless of whether he was there or not... Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: finkleshnorts on July 30, 2012, 07:17:35 PM Okay, here's a different question: Has anyone who isn't affiliated with a pirate pass-through of some sort come forward and said that they met him in Vegas? Cmon dude, he was there. This isn't Oliver Stone's JFK. really honest bob? It seems a relevant question, regardless of whether he was there or not... Not trying to be rude, sorry. But it seems like it's only a relevant question if everyone who says they saw him are actually in a massive conspiracy, and Pirate never showed. Which is not the case. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: BoardGameCoin on July 30, 2012, 07:22:48 PM More relevant is who he showed to and what kind of environment it was. Conmen are masters at managing their environment, and it seems like he excluded a person (teflone) who wasn't even particularly antagonistic. I'm not arguing that you or giga/etc didn't see pirate in Vegas, I'm just trying to understand if any new information was actually gained. Right now, it seems no.
edit: also, I fail to see how you mentioning a girlfriend being present is at all relevant... Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Shadow383 on July 30, 2012, 07:25:43 PM Okay, here's a different question: Has anyone who isn't affiliated with a pirate pass-through of some sort come forward and said that they met him in Vegas? Cmon dude, he was there. This isn't Oliver Stone's JFK. really honest bob? It seems a relevant question, regardless of whether he was there or not... "Has anyone who isn't affiliated with a pirate pass-through of some sort come forward and said that they met him in Vegas?" Right now I'm forced to assume that the answer is no. More relevant is who he showed to and what kind of environment it was. Conmen are masters at managing their environment, and it seems like he excluded a person (teflone) who wasn't even particularly antagonistic. I'm not arguing that you or giga/etc didn't see pirate in Vegas, I'm just trying to understand if any new information was actually gained. Right now, it seems no. Also this.edit: also, I fail to see how you mentioning a girlfriend being present is at all relevant... At the end of the day, this guy is handling millions of dollars of other people's money. I don't see why there should be an issue with a little transparency if everything's on the level. Okay, here's a different question: Has anyone who isn't affiliated with a pirate pass-through of some sort come forward and said that they met him in Vegas? Cmon dude, he was there. This isn't Oliver Stone's JFK. really honest bob? It seems a relevant question, regardless of whether he was there or not... Not trying to be rude, sorry. But it seems like it's only a relevant question if everyone who says they saw him are actually in a massive conspiracy, and Pirate never showed. Which is not the case. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Shadow383 on July 30, 2012, 07:50:44 PM Okay, here's a different question: Has anyone who isn't affiliated with a pirate pass-through of some sort come forward and said that they met him in Vegas? I will corroborate the claims of GigaVPS, Burt, etc., that they met me, and transitively, I met a person who may be Pirate and met the reasonable standards of identification of the person most commonly associated with that forum username. I do not manage a pass-through. Thankyou for going some way towards answering my question rather than attacking me for practising due diligence ::) Well that's something I guess. Truth is, I'd love to get rates of >5% weekly on my coins, but I have a long-standing policy that if I'm going to give someone serious cash (Let's say, more than a week's pay) then I need enough information that I can either sue them if it all goes wrong or head over to their house with a cricket bat ;) Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: smoothie on July 30, 2012, 07:55:55 PM Howdy, I'll be in Las Vegas July 27th through July 29th with some of the biggest names in Bitcoin. If you're in the area drop by and we can all chat. Contact me for details if you're interested. P.S. Private security will be present so no fishy business. :P -pirate Translation: "I am attempting to show that I am credible by using the biggest names in bitcoin to get people to trust me with their bitcoins." Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: finkleshnorts on July 30, 2012, 08:13:01 PM Sweet. Thankyou for going some way towards answering my question rather than attacking me for practising due diligence ::) Well that's something I guess. Truth is, I'd love to get rates of >5% weekly on my coins, but I have a long-standing policy that if I'm going to give someone serious cash (Let's say, more than a week's pay) then I need enough information that I can either sue them if it all goes wrong or head over to their house with a cricket bat ;) While neither of those remedies would work in this case, if I were to offer a PPT or subaccounts, the rates would be much, much lower than those offered by other PPTs. I would only offer insured deposits, which would necessarily incur costs that would have to be taken from the returns. Competing with PPTs offering 7% (so a rising tide lifts all boats) would not be possible. With a tiny bit of actuarial math and market analysis, I'd probably offer terms in the 1%-3% range, possibly rising as the 'premium' covers the principal. Still a fine return, but you can insure yourself just as easily if you're willing to take the "risk" of 7% and pull your initial deposit. Others have floated the idea of less-exposed debt instruments, and that would be where my interests would lie. If you fully insure a PPT at 3% a week starting off, I would invest :) Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: LoweryCBS on July 30, 2012, 08:55:38 PM Okay, here's a different question: Has anyone who isn't affiliated with a pirate pass-through of some sort come forward and said that they met him in Vegas? I will corroborate the claims of GigaVPS, Burt, etc., that they met me, and transitively, I met a person who may be Pirate and met the reasonable standards of identification of the person most commonly associated with that forum username. I do not manage a pass-through. The most level-headed and unambiguous statement in this thread thus far. I feel there was some actual effort made to say something useful that can be taken at face value. Thank you, reeses As Reeses' identity is fairly well known, this statement, and his credibility, carry some substantial weight with me. As such, if he were to offer a 100% insured PPT that offers 3%, I'd be on board. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Vandroiy on July 30, 2012, 09:46:11 PM As Reeses' identity is fairly well known, this statement, and his credibility, carry some substantial weight with me. As such, if he were to offer a 100% insured PPT that offers 3%, I'd be on board. At least wait until there has been a delay-free payment from BS&T again. For all I can see, this time all interest payments are delayed, as in still missing. All I can think of when I read reeses is the quote "I will crap in your face and then describe unto you the ways to clean my fundament". I see he deleted it along with a whole set of insulting and derailing posts in that bet thread... just like Goat in this. lol -- the "conversation" looks even weirder now, if that's possible. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: RoloTonyBrownTown on July 30, 2012, 10:02:35 PM As Reeses' identity is fairly well known, this statement, and his credibility, carry some substantial weight with me. As such, if he were to offer a 100% insured PPT that offers 3%, I'd be on board. At least wait until there has been a delay-free payment from BS&T again. For all I can see, this time all interest payments are delayed, as in still missing. All I can think of when I read reeses is the quote "I will crappy in your face and then describe unto you the ways to clean my fundament". I see he deleted it along with a whole set of insulting and derailing posts in that bet thread... just like Goat in this. lol -- the "conversation" looks even weirder now, if that's possible. Aw, diddums. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: koin on July 30, 2012, 10:15:02 PM Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: bb113 on July 31, 2012, 01:56:49 AM If they were at defcon the info is in their badge. Ask for proof.
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: vokain on July 31, 2012, 02:25:41 AM If they were at defcon the info is in their badge. Ask for proof. +1 Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: notme on July 31, 2012, 04:57:58 AM Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: teflone on July 31, 2012, 08:36:18 AM Howdy, I'll be in Las Vegas July 27th through July 29th with some of the biggest names in Bitcoin. If you're in the area drop by and we can all chat. Contact me for details if you're interested. P.S. Private security will be present so no fishy business. :P -pirate Translation: "I am attempting to show that I am credible by using the biggest names in bitcoin to get people to trust me with their bitcoins." Ding ding ding ding.... bingo... Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: pirateat40 on July 31, 2012, 04:30:47 PM Thanks to all of you that came and sorry I couldn't spend more time with everyone. I know a few of you were there and didn't get a chance to meet you.
Here is everyone that showed up. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53757294/thecrew.png We will do it again!!! Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Mike Jones on July 31, 2012, 04:32:41 PM My money is on Pirate being the woman.
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: phantitox on July 31, 2012, 04:36:42 PM HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA classic xD , nice one xD
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: ribuck on July 31, 2012, 04:39:09 PM My money is on Pirate being the woman. If pirate is there, my money is on pirate being the photographer.Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: finkleshnorts on July 31, 2012, 04:42:11 PM My money is on Pirate being the woman. If pirate is there, my money is on pirate being the photographer.I will take that bet:) Me too! lol at goat in the picture :P Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: jamesg on July 31, 2012, 04:43:55 PM My money is on Pirate being the woman. If pirate is there, my money is on pirate being the photographer.I will take that bet:) I can already tell you that you have lost the bet because my bro-in-law was taking the photos. :P Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Draino on July 31, 2012, 04:52:06 PM the glasses to non-glasses ratio is troubling
something something something ponzi Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: ErebusBat on July 31, 2012, 05:05:08 PM the glasses to non-glasses ratio is troubling something something something ponzi Don't forget occams razor Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Clipse on July 31, 2012, 05:09:28 PM Awesome stuff guys.
However I am sad that you all seem rather normal, I did expect some guns or crackpipes on the table. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: ErebusBat on July 31, 2012, 05:19:19 PM Awesome stuff guys. I was expecting Tony SopranoHowever I am sad that you all seem rather normal, I did expect some guns or crackpipes on the table. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: jamesg on July 31, 2012, 08:05:09 PM Thanks to all of you that came and sorry I couldn't spend more time with everyone. I know a few of you were there and didn't get a chance to meet you. Here is everyone that showed up. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53757294/thecrew.png We will do it again!!! Uh oh. Now there is a picture of me and a bunch of other people with pirate. Does this prove that maybe we should all take off our tin foil hats for a minute? ::) Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: jcpham on July 31, 2012, 08:10:36 PM I know which one! Do you want me to say it?
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: rjk on July 31, 2012, 08:11:32 PM Thanks to all of you that came and sorry I couldn't spend more time with everyone. I know a few of you were there and didn't get a chance to meet you. Here is everyone that showed up. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53757294/thecrew.png We will do it again!!! Uh oh. Now there is a picture of me and a bunch of other people with pirate. Does this prove that maybe we should all take off our tin foil hats for a minute? ::) Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: jamesg on July 31, 2012, 08:16:08 PM Shooped. You heard it here first, folks. ;D O jeez. Maybe pirate is really the love child of George H. Bush and Margaret Thatcher. :P Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: the joint on July 31, 2012, 08:32:47 PM Thanks to all of you that came and sorry I couldn't spend more time with everyone. I know a few of you were there and didn't get a chance to meet you. Here is everyone that showed up. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53757294/thecrew.png We will do it again!!! Pirate, lol it's about damn time. I hope you realize that this is probably the single most important thing you've done to build trust for your operation (in my opinion, at least). Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: sarpar on July 31, 2012, 08:40:29 PM Thanks to all of you that came and sorry I couldn't spend more time with everyone. I know a few of you were there and didn't get a chance to meet you. Here is everyone that showed up. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53757294/thecrew.png We will do it again!!! Pirate, lol it's about damn time. I hope you realize that this is probably the single most important thing you've done to build trust for your operation (in my opinion, at least). the single most important thing are the payouts! partied to hard this weekend or what? Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: ErebusBat on July 31, 2012, 08:52:14 PM the single most important thing are the payouts! partied to hard this weekend or what? Life happened.... his hot water heater blew up and practically destroyed his house.Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: sarpar on July 31, 2012, 08:56:49 PM the single most important thing are the payouts! partied to hard this weekend or what? Life happened.... his hot water heater blew up and practically destroyed his house.Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: notme on July 31, 2012, 08:57:30 PM My money is on Pirate being the woman. If pirate is there, my money is on pirate being the photographer.I will take that bet:) Me too! lol at goat in the picture :P He's making the West Virginia symbol (it's backwards though). I live near the top of the pointer finger. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: notme on July 31, 2012, 08:58:04 PM the single most important thing are the payouts! partied to hard this weekend or what? Life happened.... his hot water heater blew up and practically destroyed his house.Some are, some aren't. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: ribuck on July 31, 2012, 09:03:59 PM Have you noticed the small table on the right in the background? The one with Bernanke in mufti on the left, and Satoshi seated on the right?
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: notme on July 31, 2012, 09:10:53 PM Have you noticed the small table on the right in the background? The one with Bernanke in mufti on the left, and Satoshi seated on the right? Bernanke doesn't have sideburns that long. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: wachtwoord on July 31, 2012, 09:14:51 PM Where is all the booze! ???
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: BTCurious on July 31, 2012, 09:21:17 PM Where is all the booze! ??? If you don't see any, that must mean they drank it all! !!!Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: wachtwoord on July 31, 2012, 09:24:41 PM Wow even the glasses/bottles/kegs? That's some Pirate crew! :o
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: malevolent on July 31, 2012, 10:37:24 PM Thanks to all of you that came and sorry I couldn't spend more time with everyone. I know a few of you were there and didn't get a chance to meet you. Here is everyone that showed up. We will do it again!!! Are you the 3rd one from the right? Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: rjk on July 31, 2012, 10:40:13 PM I -think- I recognize Pirate, Goat, OneFixt, and Gigavps in there, but the rest are just guesses.
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: ErebusBat on July 31, 2012, 10:41:53 PM I -think- I recognize Pirate, Goat, OneFixt, and Gigavps in there, but the rest are just guesses. I got pirate, giga, goat, copumpkin, burtw, and I think reeses.Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: wachtwoord on July 31, 2012, 10:42:55 PM Thanks to all of you that came and sorry I couldn't spend more time with everyone. I know a few of you were there and didn't get a chance to meet you. Here is everyone that showed up. We will do it again!!! Are you the 3rd one from the right? That was my guess as well based on the OTC picture. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: ErebusBat on July 31, 2012, 10:51:09 PM Thanks to all of you that came and sorry I couldn't spend more time with everyone. I know a few of you were there and didn't get a chance to meet you. Here is everyone that showed up. We will do it again!!! Are you the 3rd one from the right? That was my guess as well based on the OTC picture. The question is... who is 'not pirate' there is some intrigue there... even from pirate himself. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: aq on August 01, 2012, 01:19:18 AM Pirate, lol it's about damn time. Care to explain why?I hope you realize that this is probably the single most important thing you've done to build trust for your operation (in my opinion, at least). Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: sgravina on August 01, 2012, 02:39:31 AM I don't recognize any of the people. The glasses makes them all look the same to me. But I was able to identify some of the pictures on the wall.
Sam Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: sgravina on August 01, 2012, 02:46:14 AM Is pirate@40 immortal? Or maybe the 40 is counting the decades. I found this photo on wikipedia that looks a lot like the woman identified as "not pirate".
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: smoothie on August 01, 2012, 02:50:25 AM I don't recognize any of the people. The glasses makes them all look the same to me. But I was able to identify some of the pictures on the wall. Sam LOL +1....the Hall of Ponzi! Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: notme on August 01, 2012, 02:57:13 AM Is pirate@40 immortal? Or maybe the 40 is counting the decades. I found this photo on wikipedia that looks a lot like the woman identified as "not pirate". He turns 30 this year. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: sethsethseth on August 01, 2012, 03:01:12 AM Thanks to all of you that came and sorry I couldn't spend more time with everyone. I know a few of you were there and didn't get a chance to meet you. Here is everyone that showed up. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53757294/thecrew.png We will do it again!!! Just letting everyone know that I was hanging out with Tuxavant, Casascius, Andrew Bitcoiner, and a bunch of other forum people for most of the weekend at DEFCON and never saw any of the folks in that picture. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: rjk on August 01, 2012, 03:01:41 AM Just letting everyone know that I was hanging out with Tuxavant, Casascius, Andrew Bitcoiner, and a bunch of other forum people for most of the weekend at DEFCON and never saw any of the folks in that picture. Wasn't their meetup in a different location?Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: jamesg on August 01, 2012, 03:05:10 AM Just letting everyone know that I was hanging out with Tuxavant, Casascius, Andrew Bitcoiner, and a bunch of other forum people for most of the weekend at DEFCON and never saw any of the folks in that picture. We actually met up with Sorry we missed you sethsethseth. Edit: I corrected who came to visit us above. Sorry for the confusion. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: jamesg on August 01, 2012, 03:06:48 AM The only bad thing here is that photo full of poindexters is making all the money. Notice the only one traveling with a female is the guy on the left that looks like Andy Gibbs daughter. I don’t begrudge any of them the money now. They need it to get laid! Well, I don't know about you, but I'm not sure a smoke filled casino is the place for my 5 month old to hang out. Otherwise, I would definitely have brought my wife with me. :p Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Tuxavant on August 01, 2012, 03:08:00 AM We actually met up with Tuxavant, Coingenuity and Patrick from Intersango on Sunday afternoon at the MGM Grand poker room. Sorry we missed you sethsethseth. Wat? Oh no you di'nt! I was at Defcon all day with my talk and challenge. Now lets hear how you confused my name with someone else. This will be ripe. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: jamesg on August 01, 2012, 03:11:43 AM We actually met up with Tuxavant, Coingenuity and Patrick from Intersango on Sunday afternoon at the MGM Grand poker room. Sorry we missed you sethsethseth. Wat? Oh no you di'nt! I was at Defcon all day with my talk and challenge. Now lets hear how you confused my name with someone else. This will be ripe. O whoops, must of been someone else who's IRC handle started with a T. I was a little busy playing poker in the poker room. Go figure. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: jamesg on August 01, 2012, 03:19:18 AM We actually met up with Tuxavant, Coingenuity and Patrick from Intersango on Sunday afternoon at the MGM Grand poker room. Sorry we missed you sethsethseth. Wat? Oh no you di'nt! I was at Defcon all day with my talk and challenge. Now lets hear how you confused my name with someone else. This will be ripe. O whoops, must of been someone else who's IRC handle started with a T. I was a little busy playing poker in the poker room. Go figure. It was tuxblackedo who came with the other two to the poker room. I have corrected my original post. I knew it was "Tux" something. :P Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: teflone on August 01, 2012, 03:25:03 AM We actually met up with Tuxavant, Coingenuity and Patrick from Intersango on Sunday afternoon at the MGM Grand poker room. Sorry we missed you sethsethseth. Wat? Oh no you di'nt! I was at Defcon all day with my talk and challenge. Now lets hear how you confused my name with someone else. This will be ripe. Its strange how you missed inviting who I consider the one person in the bitcoin community doing more for mass adoption than all of you combined.. Im in awe of Tuxavants dedication to Bitcoin.. and I applaud him... Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Tuxavant on August 01, 2012, 03:29:22 AM Its strange how you missed inviting who I consider the one person in the bitcoin community doing more for mass adoption than all of you combined.. Im in awe of Tuxavants dedication to Bitcoin.. and I applaud him... Um. Thanks for the vote of confidence, but that is a huge statement that I would like to distance myself from. I proselytize my ass off, but there are plenty more of 'you' that contribute much more tangible efforts to the community (edit) and deserving of that statement. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: jamesg on August 01, 2012, 03:30:50 AM Its strange how you missed inviting who I consider the one person in the bitcoin community doing more for mass adoption than all of you combined.. Im in awe of Tuxavants dedication to Bitcoin.. and I applaud him... Almost nobody, including yourself, contacted me about meeting up in Vegas. I posted in this thread early on that I would be there. How do you figure that it is my job to invite people? Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Herodes on August 01, 2012, 04:00:46 AM I don't quite understand the fascination with Pirate.
I was at an early age told that 'it's no such thing as a free lunch'. I haven't followed Pirate intensely, but I see there's a lot of speculation and so on. Fact is that he was offering 7% on your bitcoin deposit weekly, don't know if he still is offering these rates. No matter how skilled, knowledgeable and bold Pirate is, I would definately not put any bitcoins in his hands that I was not willing to risk 100%. At the moment that equals 0 bitcoins. Obviously anyone should do as they chose, but the math simply doesn't add up here. When the 'bank run' or 'hack' day comes, I hope you are in a position that you easily can recover from. If something seems too good to be true, it usually is. So, the greedy wish for some interest, could soon turn out to be a losing proposition. And when the shit hits the fan, the living room is going to be full of it. Take care. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: CoinCidental on August 01, 2012, 06:19:00 AM Actually ,there is a free lunch in these things IF are in the top tier
its usually the lower tiers that lose all Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Rockefoten on August 01, 2012, 07:10:04 AM If the point of this thread was for Pirate to "show himself" at Defcon so that investors would have more confidence, I don't think this has been fulfilled.
What we have is a picture of a bunch of people, with people saying "This is me with pirate" or "I think I know who Pirate is here". Why is everybody else so afraid to pinpoint who Pirate is? What is the point of the picture if not to show who Pirate is? PS! I have money in some PPTs so I'm no detractor, just a bit tired of the games that seem to be played here.. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: notme on August 01, 2012, 07:52:12 AM If the point of this thread was for Pirate to "show himself" at Defcon so that investors would have more confidence, I don't think this has been fulfilled. What we have is a picture of a bunch of people, with people saying "This is me with pirate" or "I think I know who Pirate is here". Why is everybody else so afraid to pinpoint who Pirate is? What is the point of the picture if not to show who Pirate is? PS! I have money in some PPTs so I'm no detractor, just a bit tired of the games that seem to be played here.. Pirate is 3rd from the right. His real name is Trendon Shavers and he lives in McKinney, TX. He will be turning 30 in September. Of course, nobody will believe me because if they do it takes all the fun out of it. All this information is available via google, and if you're investor you should already know all of it or you didn't do you due diligence and one day you will be scammed by a real scam artist. Pirate, on the other hand is just a smart guy trying to get rich by helping bitcoin reach it's full potential. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Rockefoten on August 01, 2012, 08:15:20 AM Pirate is 3rd from the right. His real name is Trendon Shavers and he lives in McKinney, TX. He will be turning 30 in September. Of course, nobody will believe me because if they do it takes all the fun out of it. All this information is available via google, and if you're investor you should already know all of it or you didn't do you due diligence and one day you will be scammed by a real scam artist. Pirate, on the other hand is just a smart guy trying to get rich by helping bitcoin reach it's full potential. Thanks, finally some one steps up! I wasn't really that concerned about the ID, it was just getting a bit tiresome with all the games played by the involved ("Here I am...one of these 10 guys is me!"). But it probably was fun for the people involved (it probably contributed to their in-group feeling). About due diligence: I read a lot about BTCST before investing - so I am fully aware of the risk of it being a Ponzi and of it defaulting. I've stayed out of numerous opportunities on glbse which seemed a bit shoddy (or: didn't offer high enough returns considering their perceived shodiness). Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Kluge on August 01, 2012, 08:55:41 AM Pirate is 3rd from the right. His real name is Trendon Shavers and he lives in McKinney, TX. He will be turning 30 in September. Of course, nobody will believe me because if they do it takes all the fun out of it. All this information is available via google, and if you're investor you should already know all of it or you didn't do you due diligence and one day you will be scammed by a real scam artist. Pirate, on the other hand is just a smart guy trying to get rich by helping bitcoin reach it's full potential. Thanks, finally some one steps up! I wasn't really that concerned about the ID, it was just getting a bit tiresome with all the games played by the involved ("Here I am...one of these 10 guys is me!"). But it probably was fun for the people involved (it probably contributed to their in-group feeling). About due diligence: I read a lot about BTCST before investing - so I am fully aware of the risk of it being a Ponzi and of it defaulting. I've stayed out of numerous opportunities on glbse which seemed a bit shoddy (or: didn't offer high enough returns considering their perceived shodiness). It sounds like a game and elitism, but I think it's actually showing how seriously people take each other. If Pirate doesn't disclose something himself publicly, I don't think people privy to the information would be keen on doing such a thing without asking his consent. Pirate in particular seems a bit secretive, making everyone else a bit less interested in releasing information on someone who probably holds thousands of their coins and may not appreciate non-public information being leaked. Moreover, there's not much to gain by leaking information from those assuming BS&T isn't a Ponzi. Information may bring in many new investors, but that isn't essential to Pirate paying out. There's really not much reason for investors to defend Pirate (still assuming Pirate isn't a ponzi), except when people go out of their way to call investors and "enablers" scammy idiots who should have their eyes pecked out - or something along those lines. ETA: Backpeddling a bit thinking about it more, PPT operators obviously have incentive to defend Pirate, given they profit off arb. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: odolvlobo on August 01, 2012, 09:40:30 AM Pirate is 3rd from the right. His real name is Trendon Shavers and he lives in McKinney, TX. He will be turning 30 in September. This Trendon Shavers? NAME CASE NO. DATE OF BIRTH CHARGE SHAVERS, TRENDON 101078 09/21/1982 THEFT O/20 U/500 BY CHECK Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Spekulatius on August 01, 2012, 09:44:45 AM Everyone invested in pirate has an interest in finding out about him, just in case..
Even people which are not invested with may have an interest in Pirate being legitimate and honest in his business practices, as it is directly linked to the reputation of bitcoin and the whole community. I would not like bitcoin to be labeled as an unsecure scam ridden project, doomed to fail for its vulnerabilities to hacking and scam schemes. I know better, but it is hard to explain to the rest of the world if all they get from the media is the catastophes. Also, pls digg some more into the seeming information you found on Pirate, it is hard for me to believe, that someone with a couple of million of borrowed dollars sitting in his chest lets such information laying around for everyone else easily to find. Especially, because he is so secretive with all his business in general. Maybe try to meet him at his home address, call his phone number and see who answers, or seek some confirmation on his birth in local registers, because it would be highly naive to believe anything you happened to find on Google. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: finkleshnorts on August 01, 2012, 09:45:05 AM Pirate is 3rd from the right. His real name is Trendon Shavers and he lives in McKinney, TX. He will be turning 30 in September. This Trendon Shavers? NAME CASE NO. DATE OF BIRTH CHARGE SHAVERS, TRENDON 101078 09/21/1982 THEFT O/20 U/500 BY CHECK yes. he has addressed this... dig some more. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Rockefoten on August 01, 2012, 09:46:29 AM It sounds like a game and elitism, but I think it's actually showing how seriously people take each other. If Pirate doesn't disclose something himself publicly, I don't think people privy to the information would be keen on doing such a thing without asking his consent. I can certainly appreciate everyone's wish for privacy, and this in itself does not necessarily imply game and elitism. It may as well also be taken as a sign of professionalism. My point with my post was not primarily to have Pirate identity outed. It was more that the impression from this thread that an in-group of people was playing with an out-group of people was beginning to annoy me - with small hints and the giving out of small dots requiring each and everyone to spend time connecting all the dots (i.e. who is pirate on this picture). It is this kind of behaviour that I don't find particularly professional. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: mp420 on August 01, 2012, 10:01:09 AM Somehow I'm not convinced when people who have admitted to being Pirate's co-conspirators (or victims) claim that they know what Pirate is doing with their money and claim that it's not a Ponzi.
There used to be a Ponzi scheme in Finland called WinCapita (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinCapita (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinCapita)). Many of the victims (some of whom lost tens or hundreds of thousands of euros) still believe WinCapita was legit (the founder claimed he was doing forex trading with a secret, highly efficient algorithm), even though the founder admitted guilt in 2009 and was convicted in 2011. Pirate's operation has all the tell-tale signs of a Ponzi scheme. Just because his identity is known it doesn't mean he's not a scammer. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: imsaguy on August 01, 2012, 10:01:26 AM My point with my post was not primarily to have Pirate identity outed. It was more that the impression from this thread that an in-group of people was playing with an out-group of people was beginning to annoy me - with small hints and the giving out of small dots requiring each and everyone to spend time connecting all the dots (i.e. who is pirate on this picture). It is this kind of behaviour that I don't find particularly professional. Now imagine a group of people claiming that anyone that did meet pirate will somehow be responsible for pirate's actions, simply because the person(s) met him and now you can understand why some people are intentionally vague as to their meeting of pirate. They don't want to deal with the BS. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: CoinCidental on August 01, 2012, 10:18:42 AM Somehow I'm not convinced when people who have admitted to being Pirate's co-conspirators (or victims) claim that they know what Pirate is doing with their money and claim that it's not a Ponzi. There used to be a Ponzi scheme in Finland called WinCapita (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinCapita (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinCapita)). Many of the victims (some of whom lost tens or hundreds of thousands of euros) still believe WinCapita was legit (the founder claimed he was doing forex trading with a secret, highly efficient algorithm), even though the founder admitted guilt in 2009 and was convicted in 2011. Pirate's operation has all the tell-tale signs of a Ponzi scheme. Just because his identity is known it doesn't mean he's not a scammer. everyone known who bernie madoff was ,everyone known who sergei "forgot his name " the biggest russian pyramid scamer ever was the russian guy even printed worthless share certificates with his REAL FACE on them and issued them to to share holders for cash and conned half of russia out of their life savings :D if history has taught us anything it has to be that knowing someones name is virtually zero security for your investments .......... Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Rockefoten on August 01, 2012, 10:19:33 AM Now imagine a group of people claiming that anyone that did meet pirate will somehow be responsible for pirate's actions, simply because the person(s) met him and now you can understand why some people are intentionally vague as to their meeting of pirate. They don't want to deal with the BS. I can to a point understand why people are being vague about this, it's more the impression of people being playfully vague that got to me. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Bitcoin Oz on August 01, 2012, 10:23:31 AM Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: wachtwoord on August 01, 2012, 10:24:58 AM My point with my post was not primarily to have Pirate identity outed. It was more that the impression from this thread that an in-group of people was playing with an out-group of people was beginning to annoy me - with small hints and the giving out of small dots requiring each and everyone to spend time connecting all the dots (i.e. who is pirate on this picture). It is this kind of behaviour that I don't find particularly professional. Now imagine a group of people claiming that anyone that did meet pirate will somehow be responsible for pirate's actions, simply because the person(s) met him and now you can understand why some people are intentionally vague as to their meeting of pirate. They don't want to deal with the BS. Wow, you are taking those idiots seriously? Just let me state that in no way would make you responsible for any of Pirate his actions. Was that actually unclear for anyone? People that state such things have completely lost any connection to the actual world. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: imsaguy on August 01, 2012, 10:39:19 AM My point with my post was not primarily to have Pirate identity outed. It was more that the impression from this thread that an in-group of people was playing with an out-group of people was beginning to annoy me - with small hints and the giving out of small dots requiring each and everyone to spend time connecting all the dots (i.e. who is pirate on this picture). It is this kind of behaviour that I don't find particularly professional. Now imagine a group of people claiming that anyone that did meet pirate will somehow be responsible for pirate's actions, simply because the person(s) met him and now you can understand why some people are intentionally vague as to their meeting of pirate. They don't want to deal with the BS. Wow, you are taking those idiots seriously? Just let me state that in no way would make you responsible for any of Pirate his actions. Was that actually unclear for anyone? People that state such things have completely lost any connection to the actual world. I get that, the important bit is the "They don't want to deal with the BS." Regardless if its even remotely accurate or not, people continue to spew tons of crap, completely unrestrained. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: wachtwoord on August 01, 2012, 11:24:38 AM True, but if you do not want to deal with the bullshit completely disregard their comments and see it as white noise. Please, do not let it influence your decisions.
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: sgravina on August 01, 2012, 11:45:20 AM I don't believe any of this (except for a small subset of this that I do believe but can't quite remember).
Tendon Shivers isn't a real person just a front for GNUMAX. My own research has shown that pirate is really Mary Read, the notorious 18th century pirate. Check it out for yourself on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Read, It say's "pirate" right there in the first sentence. Of course most of the Wikipedia article is lies. So I just make up the rest of the truth. Read is really about 400 years old. Among her pre-pirating accomplishments were the writing of several, but not all, of Shakespeare's plays. Well more accurately she stole several of Shakespeare's plays and improved them to the point that she is for the most part is the real author. Her father was an interesting character too. Among other things he coined the name "Netherlands". Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: BTCurious on August 01, 2012, 11:48:00 AM I don't believe any of this (except for a small subset of this that I do believe but can't quite remember). LIES! I have met this "Netherlands" and it is nothing like what you describe!Tendon Shivers isn't a real person just a front for GNUMAX. My own research has shown that pirate is really Mary Read, the notorious 18th century pirate. Check it out for yourself on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Read, It say's "pirate" right there in the first sentence. Of course most of the Wikipedia article is lies. So I just make up the rest of the truth. Read is really about 400 years old. Among her pre-pirating accomplishments were the writing of several, but not all, of Shakespeare's plays. Well more accurately she stole several of Shakespeare's plays and improved them to the point that she is for the most part is the real author. Her father was an interesting character too. Among other things he coined the name "Netherlands". Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Justin00 on August 01, 2012, 11:49:57 AM Just out of curiosity... how was defcon ? Anyone know when the presentations usually make it online ?
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Vandroiy on August 01, 2012, 02:03:21 PM So, just to reiterate, Bitcoiners were meeting right beside DefCon and not going in.
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: rjk on August 01, 2012, 02:05:08 PM So, just to reiterate, Bitcoiners were meeting right beside DefCon and not going in. Zomg my brainwallet might get haxTitle: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: ErebusBat on August 01, 2012, 02:11:59 PM So, just to reiterate, Bitcoiners were meeting right beside DefCon and not going in. http://chzmemebase.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/memes-i-dont-always-my-memes.jpgTitle: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Tuxavant on August 01, 2012, 03:05:45 PM Just out of curiosity... how was defcon ? Anyone know when the presentations usually make it online ? All video presentations, including mine, should be available around december. Some talk about my experience on this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=96434.0 Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: notme on August 01, 2012, 03:55:39 PM Now imagine a group of people claiming that anyone that did meet pirate will somehow be responsible for pirate's actions, simply because the person(s) met him and now you can understand why some people are intentionally vague as to their meeting of pirate. They don't want to deal with the BS. I can to a point understand why people are being vague about this, it's more the impression of people being playfully vague that got to me. That's just it... we have two options: be playful about it or get annoyed. Every single thread that remotely mentions pirate gets inundated with crap by people asking questions with easy to find answers and spreading accusations with no evidence. As you can see, being honest doesn't get anyone anywhere. Everyone invested in pirate has an interest in finding out about him, just in case.. Even people which are not invested with may have an interest in Pirate being legitimate and honest in his business practices, as it is directly linked to the reputation of bitcoin and the whole community. I would not like bitcoin to be labeled as an unsecure scam ridden project, doomed to fail for its vulnerabilities to hacking and scam schemes. I know better, but it is hard to explain to the rest of the world if all they get from the media is the catastophes. Also, pls digg some more into the seeming information you found on Pirate, it is hard for me to believe, that someone with a couple of million of borrowed dollars sitting in his chest lets such information laying around for everyone else easily to find. Especially, because he is so secretive with all his business in general. Maybe try to meet him at his home address, call his phone number and see who answers, or seek some confirmation on his birth in local registers, because it would be highly naive to believe anything you happened to find on Google. True. You shouldn't just blindly trust google. However, I'm only willing to share what is obviously public information. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: notme on August 01, 2012, 03:56:40 PM So, just to reiterate, Bitcoiners were meeting right beside DefCon and not going in. Yes, I flew around the world to go to Vegas. I went to play craps with Pirate and it was epic. I did go to the Rio to have lunch with Mike Caldwell of Casasius coins. He was a cool guy as well. But other than that yeah, no defcon. Too much fun was to be had! What?!??! How could you possibly have different ideas about how to spend your time? You must be a scammer ::). Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Shadow383 on August 01, 2012, 04:16:03 PM My point with my post was not primarily to have Pirate identity outed. It was more that the impression from this thread that an in-group of people was playing with an out-group of people was beginning to annoy me - with small hints and the giving out of small dots requiring each and everyone to spend time connecting all the dots (i.e. who is pirate on this picture). It is this kind of behaviour that I don't find particularly professional. Now imagine a group of people claiming that anyone that did meet pirate will somehow be responsible for pirate's actions, simply because the person(s) met him and now you can understand why some people are intentionally vague as to their meeting of pirate. They don't want to deal with the BS. That said, it'd be damn-near impossible to prove and I'm sure the case wouldn't even come up unless someone sued you directly... Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: wachtwoord on August 01, 2012, 04:23:25 PM Having met Pirate != Knowing how he runs his business
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Tuxavant on August 01, 2012, 04:57:30 PM Having met Pirate != Knowing how he runs his business That might be in a court of law, but not so much in the court of Bitcoiners. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: notme on August 01, 2012, 04:58:47 PM Having met Pirate != Knowing how he runs his business That might be in a court of law, but not so much in the court of Bitcoiners. There is no such court. You sure have a strong imagination. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Tuxavant on August 01, 2012, 05:02:06 PM There is no such court. You sure have a strong imagination. And you have none. We are all the court of bitcoiners. And when the ponzi falls apart, we'll all look back at the people in the top tier that supported it and pass judgement. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: notme on August 01, 2012, 05:04:51 PM There is no such court. You sure have a strong imagination. And you have none. We are all the court of bitcoiners. And when the ponzi falls apart, we'll all look back at the people in the top tier that supported it and pass judgement. And that judgement will be done on an individual basis... not by some imaginary collective. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: wachtwoord on August 01, 2012, 05:11:30 PM But saying to have met Pirate (when in fact this was true) can never, by any rational fair person, be considered the same as being an accomplice. Whether this is according to any law is secondary, the very derivation is a non sequitur.
of course there are many actions that will lead to condemnation (actually being an accomplice to a Ponzi scam would be one of them for me personally). I would just like people to speak their minds on these forums as opposed to hiding is small private groups and hiding behind jokes in fear of being condemned for doing nothings wrong. (Of course, if people are in fact are committing wrongdoings its a different story altogether). Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: BTCurious on August 01, 2012, 06:05:35 PM But saying to have met Pirate (when in fact this was true) can never, by any rational fair person, be considered the same as being an accomplice. Whether this is according to any law is secondary, the very derivation is a non sequitur. +1 for both points. I'd like to add that running a passthrough does not make one an accomplice when it's a ponzi. I've heard that said, and imo that makes no sense.of course there are many actions that will lead to condemnation (actually being an accomplice to a Ponzi scam would be one of them for me personally). Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Soros Shorts on August 01, 2012, 06:13:18 PM But saying to have met Pirate (when in fact this was true) can never, by any rational fair person, be considered the same as being an accomplice. Whether this is according to any law is secondary, the very derivation is a non sequitur. +1 for both points. I'd like to add that running a passthrough does not make one an accomplice when it's a ponzi. I've heard that said, and imo that makes no sense.of course there are many actions that will lead to condemnation (actually being an accomplice to a Ponzi scam would be one of them for me personally). Somebody should link to "Association Fallacy" on Wikipedia. It would be a welcome change to all those "Ponzi" links (like we've never heard about it before). Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: imsaguy on August 01, 2012, 06:25:37 PM Somebody should link to "Association Fallacy" on Wikipedia. It would be a welcome change to all those "Ponzi" links (like we've never heard about it before). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: goodlord666 on August 02, 2012, 12:44:36 AM If the point of this thread was for Pirate to "show himself" at Defcon so that investors would have more confidence, I don't think this has been fulfilled. What we have is a picture of a bunch of people, with people saying "This is me with pirate" or "I think I know who Pirate is here". Why is everybody else so afraid to pinpoint who Pirate is? What is the point of the picture if not to show who Pirate is? PS! I have money in some PPTs so I'm no detractor, just a bit tired of the games that seem to be played here.. Pirate is 3rd from the right. His real name is Trendon Shavers and he lives in McKinney, TX. He will be turning 30 in September. Of course, nobody will believe me because if they do it takes all the fun out of it. All this information is available via google, and if you're investor you should already know all of it or you didn't do you due diligence and one day you will be scammed by a real scam artist. Pirate, on the other hand is just a smart guy trying to get rich by helping bitcoin reach it's full potential. dude...... Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: unclescrooge on August 02, 2012, 07:25:45 AM If the point of this thread was for Pirate to "show himself" at Defcon so that investors would have more confidence, I don't think this has been fulfilled. What we have is a picture of a bunch of people, with people saying "This is me with pirate" or "I think I know who Pirate is here". Why is everybody else so afraid to pinpoint who Pirate is? What is the point of the picture if not to show who Pirate is? PS! I have money in some PPTs so I'm no detractor, just a bit tired of the games that seem to be played here.. Pirate is 3rd from the right. His real name is Trendon Shavers and he lives in McKinney, TX. He will be turning 30 in September. Of course, nobody will believe me because if they do it takes all the fun out of it. All this information is available via google, and if you're investor you should already know all of it or you didn't do you due diligence and one day you will be scammed by a real scam artist. Pirate, on the other hand is just a smart guy trying to get rich by helping bitcoin reach it's full potential. Funny, without knowing him I would have said it was this guy. Seems nice :) Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: bluefirecorp on August 03, 2012, 03:39:54 AM If the point of this thread was for Pirate to "show himself" at Defcon so that investors would have more confidence, I don't think this has been fulfilled. What we have is a picture of a bunch of people, with people saying "This is me with pirate" or "I think I know who Pirate is here". Why is everybody else so afraid to pinpoint who Pirate is? What is the point of the picture if not to show who Pirate is? PS! I have money in some PPTs so I'm no detractor, just a bit tired of the games that seem to be played here.. Pirate is 3rd from the right. His real name is Trendon Shavers and he lives in McKinney, TX. He will be turning 30 in September. Of course, nobody will believe me because if they do it takes all the fun out of it. All this information is available via google, and if you're investor you should already know all of it or you didn't do you due diligence and one day you will be scammed by a real scam artist. Pirate, on the other hand is just a smart guy trying to get rich by helping bitcoin reach it's full potential. I know exactly where pirate lives thanks to a return address on a package :) YOU HERE THAT, I KNOW WHERE YOU SLEEP! Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: notme on August 03, 2012, 05:09:34 AM Who's that riding the parrot?
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: bitlane on August 03, 2012, 11:06:49 AM You conspiracy theorists need to get a new hobby.
Pirate is the one wearing the hat in the group pic...NOW MOVE ON. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: AndrewBUD on August 03, 2012, 12:11:47 PM ^ looks like you in the pic telling us to fuck off :P
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: AndrewBUD on August 03, 2012, 02:36:31 PM we all have time :) Stories are fun, ..... end with a bitcoin orgy.....
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: AndrewBUD on August 03, 2012, 05:52:55 PM we all have time :) Stories are fun, ..... end with a bitcoin orgy..... orgy? did you see the sausage ratio in the photo? sorry but that is not my idea of a good time, lol Uh huh... you could go hide with the Pretty Asian chick and let the others do their thing :D (That's what I would do) Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: AndrewBUD on August 03, 2012, 06:08:03 PM Not all.........could possibly be some homosexuals around.... I seen a few avatars that seem pretty fruity for men to have :P
Where was this picture taken? Did you guys have a kick ass bitcoin get together and honor Satoshi's ghost? Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: imsaguy on August 03, 2012, 06:17:07 PM Not all.........could possibly be some homosexuals around.... I seen a few avatars that seem pretty fruity for men to have :P Where was this picture taken? Did you guys have a kick ass bitcoin get together and honor Satoshi's ghost? What makes you think Satoshi was not there? Urmom Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: AndrewBUD on August 03, 2012, 06:33:31 PM ohhh ummm ?
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on August 05, 2012, 02:29:58 AM If the point of this thread was for Pirate to "show himself" at Defcon so that investors would have more confidence, I don't think this has been fulfilled. What we have is a picture of a bunch of people, with people saying "This is me with pirate" or "I think I know who Pirate is here". Why is everybody else so afraid to pinpoint who Pirate is? What is the point of the picture if not to show who Pirate is? PS! I have money in some PPTs so I'm no detractor, just a bit tired of the games that seem to be played here.. Pirate is 3rd from the right. His real name is Trendon Shavers and he lives in McKinney, TX. He will be turning 30 in September. Of course, nobody will believe me because if they do it takes all the fun out of it. All this information is available via google, and if you're investor you should already know all of it or you didn't do you due diligence and one day you will be scammed by a real scam artist. Pirate, on the other hand is just a smart guy trying to get rich by helping bitcoin reach it's full potential. I know exactly where pirate lives thanks to a return address on a package :) YOU HERE THAT, I KNOW WHERE YOU SLEEP! Or slept: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egqZspgz-hw Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: imsaguy on August 05, 2012, 03:44:31 AM Not all.........could possibly be some homosexuals around.... I seen a few avatars that seem pretty fruity for men to have :P Fruity? What's wrong with homosexuals that you feel the need to call people 'fruity'? Orange you glad he didn't call them bananas? Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Francesco on August 05, 2012, 09:09:27 AM If the point of this thread was for Pirate to "show himself" at Defcon so that investors would have more confidence, I don't think this has been fulfilled. What we have is a picture of a bunch of people, with people saying "This is me with pirate" or "I think I know who Pirate is here". Why is everybody else so afraid to pinpoint who Pirate is? What is the point of the picture if not to show who Pirate is? PS! I have money in some PPTs so I'm no detractor, just a bit tired of the games that seem to be played here.. Pirate is 3rd from the right. His real name is Trendon Shavers and he lives in McKinney, TX. He will be turning 30 in September. Of course, nobody will believe me because if they do it takes all the fun out of it. All this information is available via google, and if you're investor you should already know all of it or you didn't do you due diligence and one day you will be scammed by a real scam artist. Pirate, on the other hand is just a smart guy trying to get rich by helping bitcoin reach it's full potential. I know exactly where pirate lives thanks to a return address on a package :) YOU HERE THAT, I KNOW WHERE YOU SLEEP! Or slept: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egqZspgz-hw +1 If I was Pirate, I would probably rent a little house somewhere, nowhere near where I really sleep, just for this cases... Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: bluefirecorp on August 06, 2012, 02:23:59 AM If the point of this thread was for Pirate to "show himself" at Defcon so that investors would have more confidence, I don't think this has been fulfilled. What we have is a picture of a bunch of people, with people saying "This is me with pirate" or "I think I know who Pirate is here". Why is everybody else so afraid to pinpoint who Pirate is? What is the point of the picture if not to show who Pirate is? PS! I have money in some PPTs so I'm no detractor, just a bit tired of the games that seem to be played here.. Pirate is 3rd from the right. His real name is Trendon Shavers and he lives in McKinney, TX. He will be turning 30 in September. Of course, nobody will believe me because if they do it takes all the fun out of it. All this information is available via google, and if you're investor you should already know all of it or you didn't do you due diligence and one day you will be scammed by a real scam artist. Pirate, on the other hand is just a smart guy trying to get rich by helping bitcoin reach it's full potential. I know exactly where pirate lives thanks to a return address on a package :) YOU HERE THAT, I KNOW WHERE YOU SLEEP! Or slept: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egqZspgz-hw I have a different address than that. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: URSAY on August 06, 2012, 02:44:09 AM Bet for or against pirate in Aug.
YOU CAN DO IT!!! ;) http://www.betsofbitco.in/item?id=537 Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: R- on August 07, 2012, 10:42:54 AM Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: AndrewBUD on August 10, 2012, 03:30:39 PM He's the devil :) But I am the Super Devil...... :P
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: finway on August 20, 2012, 04:52:29 PM A meetup,
2 months later, run away. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: ErebusBat on August 20, 2012, 04:59:47 PM He's the devil :) But I am the Super Devil...... :P What about the robot devil?http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-lYop0-aXoXw/TweghAdhW-I/AAAAAAAAAuE/2zjSTZOVlzM/s1600/robot-devil.png Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: boonies4u on August 20, 2012, 05:47:31 PM He's the devil :) But I am the Super Devil...... :P What about the robot devil?http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-lYop0-aXoXw/TweghAdhW-I/AAAAAAAAAuE/2zjSTZOVlzM/s1600/robot-devil.png http://images.wikia.com/xgenstudios/images/e/ea/Mr_Natas_True_form_message.jpg Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: teflone on August 20, 2012, 05:51:27 PM Thanks to all of you that came and sorry I couldn't spend more time with everyone. I know a few of you were there and didn't get a chance to meet you. Here is everyone that showed up. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53757294/thecrew.png We will do it again!!! Just letting everyone know that I was hanging out with Tuxavant, Casascius, Andrew Bitcoiner, and a bunch of other forum people for most of the weekend at DEFCON and never saw any of the folks in that picture. The Last Supper Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: AndrewBUD on August 20, 2012, 09:26:18 PM I think people with glasses think their cool :)
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: ErebusBat on August 20, 2012, 09:48:40 PM I think people with glasses think their cool :) That is not true, I do not think I'm cool... I know it! 8) Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: AndrewBUD on August 20, 2012, 09:50:02 PM I think people with glasses think their cool :) That is not true, I do not think I'm cool... I know it! 8) Pfft... I was going for some reassurance that I am cool to :P ya know glasses.. and I don't show my fingering finger when I have my picture taken :) Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: teflone on August 21, 2012, 01:10:40 AM I think people with glasses think their cool :) That is not true, I do not think I'm cool... I know it! 8) Pfft... I was going for some reassurance that I am cool to :P ya know glasses.. and I don't show my fingering finger when I have my picture taken :) This..... ^^^^^ Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: AndrewBUD on August 21, 2012, 01:18:12 AM no good?
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: SaltySpitoon on August 21, 2012, 01:26:31 AM Is the 3rd guy in on the left Gabe Newell?
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: teflone on August 21, 2012, 02:48:00 AM Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Micon on August 23, 2012, 01:10:07 AM Thanks to all of you that came and sorry I couldn't spend more time with everyone. I know a few of you were there and didn't get a chance to meet you. Here is everyone that showed up. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53757294/thecrew.png We will do it again!!! IMO because of certain links and other personal accounts that have been privately messaged to me, I believe with low-to-medium confidence that Pirate is the guy on the far right in this pic. I also believe this could be a fake pic, maybe from a few years ago or something he just posted for lulz. Would love to hear Goat / BurtW or anyone else that claimed to have been at this meetup to confirm. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: RoloTonyBrownTown on August 23, 2012, 01:14:44 AM Thanks to all of you that came and sorry I couldn't spend more time with everyone. I know a few of you were there and didn't get a chance to meet you. Here is everyone that showed up. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53757294/thecrew.png We will do it again!!! IMO because of certain links and other personal accounts that have been privately messaged to me, I believe with low-to-medium confidence that Pirate is the guy on the far right in this pic. I also believe this could be a fake pic, maybe from a few years ago or something he just posted for lulz. Would love to hear Goat / BurtW or anyone else that claimed to have been at this meetup to confirm. Haha, you're really embarrassing dude :D Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: totaleclipseofthebank on August 23, 2012, 01:18:58 AM Thanks to all of you that came and sorry I couldn't spend more time with everyone. I know a few of you were there and didn't get a chance to meet you. Here is everyone that showed up. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53757294/thecrew.png We will do it again!!! IMO because of certain links and other personal accounts that have been privately messaged to me, I believe with low-to-medium confidence that Pirate is the guy on the far right in this pic. I also believe this could be a fake pic, maybe from a few years ago or something he just posted for lulz. Would love to hear Goat / BurtW or anyone else that claimed to have been at this meetup to confirm. I won't deny that. Will the real Trev Shavers please stand up? Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: notme on August 23, 2012, 01:32:54 AM Thanks to all of you that came and sorry I couldn't spend more time with everyone. I know a few of you were there and didn't get a chance to meet you. Here is everyone that showed up. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53757294/thecrew.png We will do it again!!! IMO because of certain links and other personal accounts that have been privately messaged to me, I believe with low-to-medium confidence that Pirate is the guy on the far right in this pic. I also believe this could be a fake pic, maybe from a few years ago or something he just posted for lulz. Would love to hear Goat / BurtW or anyone else that claimed to have been at this meetup to confirm. Try again. Hint: http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=226396560743335&id=217143734980207 Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: jamesg on August 23, 2012, 01:43:07 AM Thanks to all of you that came and sorry I couldn't spend more time with everyone. I know a few of you were there and didn't get a chance to meet you. Here is everyone that showed up. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53757294/thecrew.png We will do it again!!! IMO because of certain links and other personal accounts that have been privately messaged to me, I believe with low-to-medium confidence that Pirate is the guy on the far right in this pic. I also believe this could be a fake pic, maybe from a few years ago or something he just posted for lulz. Would love to hear Goat / BurtW or anyone else that claimed to have been at this meetup to confirm. Hi Micon, I am in that picture. I was there. I would like to make a recommendation to you. Remember though, this is free advice, so take it for what it is worth. Please spend more time reading and less time posting and you would not come to such ridiculous conclusions. Best regards, gigavps Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Shadow383 on August 23, 2012, 02:12:40 AM Hint: http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=226396560743335&id=217143734980207 Interesting - facebook account's been locked/deleted. This is new :PTitle: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: imsaguy on August 23, 2012, 02:14:01 AM Hint: http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=226396560743335&id=217143734980207 Interesting - facebook account's been locked/deleted. This is new :PNo it hasn't. Its still visible. Try again. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: dust on August 23, 2012, 02:16:24 AM Hint: http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=226396560743335&id=217143734980207 Interesting - facebook account's been locked/deleted. This is new :PNo it hasn't. Its still visible. Try again. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: imsaguy on August 23, 2012, 02:19:57 AM Hint: http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=226396560743335&id=217143734980207 Interesting - facebook account's been locked/deleted. This is new :PNo it hasn't. Its still visible. Try again. No, its a privacy setting. You have to be within his L2 of friends to try to friend him. You should try it. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: dust on August 23, 2012, 02:21:16 AM Hint: http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=226396560743335&id=217143734980207 Interesting - facebook account's been locked/deleted. This is new :PNo it hasn't. Its still visible. Try again. No, its a privacy setting. You have to be within his L2 of friends to try to friend him. You should try it. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: notme on August 23, 2012, 02:24:53 AM Hint: http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=226396560743335&id=217143734980207 Interesting - facebook account's been locked/deleted. This is new :PNo it hasn't. Its still visible. Try again. No, its a privacy setting. You have to be within his L2 of friends to try to friend him. You should try it. It was changed at least a month ago, so before the withdrawals/payments seized up. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: imsaguy on August 23, 2012, 02:24:55 AM Fair enough. Bottom line is it was changed very recently. How does changing one's privacy setting on facebook amount to anything? I added a song I liked on facebook, I guess that means I'm a shill for that band. ::) Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Matthew N. Wright on August 23, 2012, 02:26:26 AM Fair enough. Bottom line is it was changed very recently. How does changing one's privacy setting on facebook amount to anything? I added a song I liked on facebook, I guess that means I'm a shill for that band. ::) MUSICAL SCAMMER! Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Bitcoin Oz on August 23, 2012, 02:29:51 AM Hi Micon, I am in that picture. I was there. I would like to make a recommendation to you. Remember though, this is free advice, so take it for what it is worth. Please spend more time reading and less time posting and you would not come to such ridiculous conclusions. Best regards, gigavps Allow me to translate. Dumbshit, A dumber dumbshit has never before shat upon this world of dumbshits. You must have come from an advanced dumbshit civilization that has exceeded human capacity for dumbshittery. It is a mystery how such a dumbshit is able to make its way to a computer, let alone post dumbshit comments of such a staggering degree of dumbshit shitbombs with such frequency. It is as if an amoeba oozed out of a great and vast pile of the dumbest shit ever dropped and took dumbshit form. If you were less of a dumbshit, you might make fewer dumbshit statements. Fuck you, gigavps LOL Know we know why Micon sucks at poker. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Shadow383 on August 23, 2012, 02:30:14 AM Fair enough. Bottom line is it was changed very recently. How does changing one's privacy setting on facebook amount to anything? I added a song I liked on facebook, I guess that means I'm a shill for that band. ::) I wonder if depositors have been messaging him via facebook or something - I know I would if I was owed what some are on here... Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: finkleshnorts on August 23, 2012, 02:34:16 AM Thanks to all of you that came and sorry I couldn't spend more time with everyone. I know a few of you were there and didn't get a chance to meet you. Here is everyone that showed up. [pic edited out for space] We will do it again!!! IMO because of certain links and other personal accounts that have been privately messaged to me, I believe with low-to-medium confidence that Pirate is the guy on the far right in this pic. I also believe this could be a fake pic, maybe from a few years ago or something he just posted for lulz. Would love to hear Goat / BurtW or anyone else that claimed to have been at this meetup to confirm. You're an idiot. Bob. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Bitcoin Oz on August 23, 2012, 02:38:31 AM Fair enough. Bottom line is it was changed very recently. How does changing one's privacy setting on facebook amount to anything? I added a song I liked on facebook, I guess that means I'm a shill for that band. ::) I wonder if depositors have been messaging him via facebook or something - I know I would if I was owed what some are on here... They probably asked him why he liked this video on facebook http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IE7rHh4Arc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IE7rHh4Arc) This is a joke Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on August 23, 2012, 03:13:56 AM Maybe you can see Pirate eye-to-eye at Rosa's Cafe: http://www.facebook.com/Rosascafe/posts/10150282999939069
~Bruno~ Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: teflone on August 23, 2012, 04:02:22 AM Hi Micon, I am in that picture. I was there. I would like to make a recommendation to you. Remember though, this is free advice, so take it for what it is worth. Please spend more time reading and less time posting and you would not come to such ridiculous conclusions. Best regards, gigavps Allow me to translate. Dumbshit, A dumber dumbshit has never before shat upon this world of dumbshits. You must have come from an advanced dumbshit civilization that has exceeded human capacity for dumbshittery. It is a mystery how such a dumbshit is able to make its way to a computer, let alone post dumbshit comments of such a staggering degree of dumbshit shitbombs with such frequency. It is as if an amoeba oozed out of a great and vast pile of the dumbest shit ever dropped and took dumbshit form. If you were less of a dumbshit, you might make fewer dumbshit statements. Fuck you, gigavps Most hilarious response I have read in years... Still laughing.. :D Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Micon on August 23, 2012, 04:51:17 AM wait if u guys sent $5M to that guy I'm gonna be mad... meh, I gave $12k to a guy with a neck tatoo once... i guess I was trying to prevent the same shit from happening to me and it's almost the same shit... just happening to many Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Micon on August 23, 2012, 04:55:59 AM Thanks to all of you that came and sorry I couldn't spend more time with everyone. I know a few of you were there and didn't get a chance to meet you. Here is everyone that showed up. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53757294/thecrew.png We will do it again!!! IMO because of certain links and other personal accounts that have been privately messaged to me, I believe with low-to-medium confidence that Pirate is the guy on the far right in this pic. I also believe this could be a fake pic, maybe from a few years ago or something he just posted for lulz. Would love to hear Goat / BurtW or anyone else that claimed to have been at this meetup to confirm. Hi Micon, I am in that picture. I was there. I would like to make a recommendation to you. Remember though, this is free advice, so take it for what it is worth. Please spend more time reading and less time posting and you would not come to such ridiculous conclusions. Best regards, gigavps oh lolz at this thread. This was a troll / lulz i mean, I said low-to-medium confidence... I thought I was being funny wow this blew up. also, I respect your hashing power sir. I sincerely hope you are not putting any threw GPUMax Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Micon on August 23, 2012, 04:57:57 AM further more I walked the Rio for 3 days that Defcon was there playing poker and tweeting #defcon and #bitcoin hashtags and just playing 1-2 NL and talking to anyone with the badge on. It was awesome, such a cool group.
Wish I had bought the badge / wish I had met up with bitcoiners Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: RoloTonyBrownTown on August 23, 2012, 05:00:30 AM oh lolz at this thread. This was a troll / lulz i mean, I said low-to-medium confidence... I thought I was being funny wow this blew up. Bullshit. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: finkleshnorts on August 23, 2012, 05:03:38 AM wait if u guys sent $5M to that guy I'm gonna be mad... Wait y u just now see him?? Seriously, take giga's advice. If you really need help figuring something out, send out a pm to someone instead of making a public fool of yourself. I can't tell you how many pms I've sent simply asking strangers questions to help me understand various bitcoin related subjects. You'd be surprised at just how willing people will be to help someone who is honestly searching for some information, rather than repeatedly spamming ill-informed temper-tantrums all over the place. Most threads you post on are not as irrelevant as this one, and it does get very old for everyone here having to continue scrolling over your posts on a daily basis. That said, I am glad you are into bitcoin. I have no personal beef with you. But sometimes I think you are 10. And I'm sure I post stupid shit too. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: BTCurious on August 23, 2012, 09:00:33 AM Fair enough. Bottom line is it was changed very recently. How does changing one's privacy setting on facebook amount to anything? I added a song I liked on facebook, I guess that means I'm a shill for that band. ::) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAg1DnDasCU Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: ErebusBat on August 23, 2012, 02:05:23 PM also, I respect your hashing power sir. I sincerely hope you are not putting any threw GPUMax For future reference: Quote threw verb a simple past tense of throw. as opposed to Quote through preposition 1. in at one end, side, or surface and out at the other: to pass through a tunnel; We drove through Denver without stopping. Sun came through the window. 2. past; beyond: to go through a stop sign without stopping. 3. from one to the other of; between or among the individual members or parts of: to swing through the trees; This book has passed through many hands. 4. over the surface of, by way of, or within the limits or medium of: to travel through a country; to fly through the air. 5. during the whole period of; throughout: They worked through the night. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: imsaguy on August 23, 2012, 04:43:03 PM blah blah blah I like ponzis blah blah blah Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: ErebusBat on August 23, 2012, 04:54:50 PM Thought I would leave this here.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/86939820/pics/bitcoin/pirate_ironic.jpg Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Matthew N. Wright on August 23, 2012, 05:00:52 PM I love you. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: ErebusBat on August 23, 2012, 06:36:47 PM <hugs> Also it was The Oatmeal who created it, I just thought it awesome and relavent. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on August 26, 2012, 04:15:08 PM Thanks to all of you that came and sorry I couldn't spend more time with everyone. I know a few of you were there and didn't get a chance to meet you. Here is everyone that showed up. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53757294/thecrew.png We will do it again!!! Looks like the image has been removed. Also, Pirate was last seen about an hour ago on this ~Bruno~ Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: jjiimm_64 on August 26, 2012, 05:23:37 PM Looks like the image has been removed. Also, Pirate was last seen about an hour ago on this ~Bruno~ The last post on 'this Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: imsaguy on August 26, 2012, 05:27:13 PM Looks like the image has been removed. Also, Pirate was last seen about an hour ago on this ~Bruno~ The last post on 'this The forum keeps track of when it last sees you looking at a post while signed in. So you can be 'seen' without posting. Its a bit different than the irc seen. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: John (John K.) on August 27, 2012, 01:04:59 AM Thanks to all of you that came and sorry I couldn't spend more time with everyone. I know a few of you were there and didn't get a chance to meet you. Here is everyone that showed up. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53757294/thecrew.png We will do it again!!! Looks like the image has been removed. Also, Pirate was last seen about an hour ago on this ~Bruno~ Anyone know why the photo is now gone? Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Philj on August 27, 2012, 01:15:48 AM Thanks to all of you that came and sorry I couldn't spend more time with everyone. I know a few of you were there and didn't get a chance to meet you. Here is everyone that showed up. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53757294/thecrew.png We will do it again!!! Looks like the image has been removed. Also, Pirate was last seen about an hour ago on this ~Bruno~ Anyone know why the photo is now gone? What stuff popped up last night? Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: ErebusBat on August 27, 2012, 01:17:42 AM Are you saying it was a ponzi now goat?
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: John (John K.) on August 27, 2012, 01:20:32 AM Thanks to all of you that came and sorry I couldn't spend more time with everyone. I know a few of you were there and didn't get a chance to meet you. Here is everyone that showed up. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53757294/thecrew.png We will do it again!!! Looks like the image has been removed. Also, Pirate was last seen about an hour ago on this ~Bruno~ Anyone know why the photo is now gone? What stuff popped up last night? See: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=103380.0 Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: dree12 on August 27, 2012, 01:26:04 AM Well here it is again. It is my photo and I hold the rights to it. I will take it down if Pirate asks. This is useless. Undoubtedly, many have already saved it for potential criminal evidence.Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: bitcoiners on August 27, 2012, 01:29:37 AM Thanks to all of you that came and sorry I couldn't spend more time with everyone. I know a few of you were there and didn't get a chance to meet you. Here is everyone that showed up. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53757294/thecrew.png We will do it again!!! Looks like the image has been removed. Also, Pirate was last seen about an hour ago on this ~Bruno~ Anyone know why the photo is now gone? What stuff popped up last night? See: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=103380.0 Here is the real dox https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101958.msg1135106#msg1135106 There's more at the end of the thread. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: sadpandatech on August 27, 2012, 02:04:02 AM Someone posted a dox on a guy they think is Pirate, linked using that Dropbox account. It's taken down now by the OP himself. See: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=103380.0 Here is the real dox https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101958.msg1135106#msg1135106 There's more at the end of the thread. trust me, much more valid ones have been deleted and i'm sure will be making their way around the internet soon enough. aye, that dox is hella weak.... Anyone capable of doing a real dox could give 2 shits about posting it. Most of the large investors that actually have a sizeable stake to lose, either already have all the info they could ever need or the means to acquire it. All the kiddie ranting is kinda funny though. ;p Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: ElectricMucus on August 27, 2012, 03:02:43 AM He's the devil :) But I am the Super Devil...... :P What about the robot devil?http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-lYop0-aXoXw/TweghAdhW-I/AAAAAAAAAuE/2zjSTZOVlzM/s1600/robot-devil.png http://images.wikia.com/xgenstudios/images/e/ea/Mr_Natas_True_form_message.jpg I remember that game, damn additive I even played it though a few times without savepoints :) Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: sadpandatech on August 27, 2012, 03:15:05 AM what does have me wondering is why did pirates website and pirates dads website go down? very odd... Maybe odd, maybe not. I'm not clear which site was his dad's? Without knowing that though, from what I have seen, it was likely just hosted on the same VS and that got cut off. And or Trendon was managing or responsible for the site and cut it..? Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: imsaguy on August 27, 2012, 03:28:30 AM what does have me wondering is why did pirates website and pirates dads website go down? very odd... Maybe odd, maybe not. I'm not clear which site was his dad's? Without knowing that though, from what I have seen, it was likely just hosted on the same VS and that got cut off. And or Trendon was managing or responsible for the site and cut it..? or perhaps some asshat decided a ddos would be an appropriate course of action for righting their perceived wrong? Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: bitdragon on August 27, 2012, 11:49:50 AM what does have me wondering is why did pirates website and pirates dads website go down? very odd... Maybe odd, maybe not. I'm not clear which site was his dad's? Without knowing that though, from what I have seen, it was likely just hosted on the same VS and that got cut off. And or Trendon was managing or responsible for the site and cut it..? or perhaps some asshat decided a ddos would be an appropriate course of action for righting their perceived wrong? No, I'm pretty sure it was taken down and not being attacked by ddos. Why it was taken down, I don't know. Edit: If it was to try and hide phone numbers and addresses clearly that did not work. are you referring to another site than https://btcst.com/login ? As it seems up for me. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: GeoRW on August 27, 2012, 02:03:49 PM what does have me wondering is why did pirates website and pirates dads website go down? very odd... Maybe odd, maybe not. I'm not clear which site was his dad's? Without knowing that though, from what I have seen, it was likely just hosted on the same VS and that got cut off. And or Trendon was managing or responsible for the site and cut it..? or perhaps some asshat decided a ddos would be an appropriate course of action for righting their perceived wrong? No, I'm pretty sure it was taken down and not being attacked by ddos. Why it was taken down, I don't know. Edit: If it was to try and hide phone numbers and addresses clearly that did not work. Maybe police took it down after someone filed a criminal report on him. They are maybe gathering evidence and trying to prevent him to hide his treasure chest. Did anyone see him online afterwards? If someone called police on him, they might have confiscated his computer, servers etc. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: bitlane on August 27, 2012, 08:12:35 PM Can't...tell...if...serious... We could only -dream- of a police force that worked that fast. You clearly have no idea of how they work though. How the fuck is it, being one of the most opinionated on this forum, your last 2 posts are 12hrs apart ?...when you rarely go 12 seconds between posts ? Did reality just kick you in the head and leave you at a loss for words ? How's that BET going ? Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: bigbox on August 27, 2012, 08:17:12 PM Can't...tell...if...serious... We could only -dream- of a police force that worked that fast. You clearly have no idea of how they work though. How the fuck is it, being one of the most opinionated on this forum, your last 2 posts are 12hrs apart ?...when you rarely go 12 seconds between posts ? Did reality just kick you in the head and leave you at a loss for words ? How's that BET going ? He's certainly not at a loss for words. He's still quite active on IRC! Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: ErebusBat on August 27, 2012, 08:20:08 PM IRC > forum
Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Gyrsur on August 27, 2012, 08:28:22 PM Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Gyrsur on August 28, 2012, 05:04:23 PM Thanks to all of you that came and sorry I couldn't spend more time with everyone. I know a few of you were there and didn't get a chance to meet you. Here is everyone that showed up. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53757294/thecrew.png We will do it again!!! he definitely obliterate his traces! Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Otoh on March 31, 2013, 12:23:31 AM http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/thumb/msid-19296694,width-310,resizemode-4/600m-ponzi-scheme-incubated-in-small-us-town.jpg
Necro topic, but can't be bothered to find which thread if any now would be more appropriate, so just leaving this ZeekRewards scam article here, as ZR looked to be what was behind this pass through. For historical interest maybe: http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2013/03/30/authorities-600m-scheme-incubated-nc-town/2037975/ Edit: Revenge is a dish best served cold, mine has been put in the freezer for 10 years, best by date: 2022 ~ Travers +/- Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: farfiman on March 31, 2013, 06:23:57 AM http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/thumb/msid-19296694,width-310,resizemode-4/600m-ponzi-scheme-incubated-in-small-us-town.jpg Necro topic, but can't be bothered to find which thread if any now would be more appropriate, so just leaving this ZeekRewards scam article here, as ZR looked to be what was behind this pass through. For historical interest maybe: http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2013/03/30/authorities-600m-scheme-incubated-nc-town/2037975/ Edit: Revenge is a dish best served cold, mine has been put in the freezer for 10 years, best by date: 2022 ~ Travers +/- So pirate is the victim.... :P On the other hand- If any monies are recovered there is a chance that some will be funneled our direction as well ( but don't hold your breath). Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: imsaguy on March 31, 2013, 02:10:01 PM So pirate is the victim.... Dude, seriously, give it up. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: farfiman on March 31, 2013, 06:07:34 PM So pirate is the victim.... Dude, seriously, give it up. Didn't see the tongue, did you.....? Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: ErebusBat on April 02, 2013, 06:59:54 PM So pirate is the victim.... Dude, seriously, give it up. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Otoh on April 02, 2013, 10:18:15 PM So pirate is the victim.... Dude, seriously, give it up. Anyway old news, btw pirate re what you stole: I come from a long line of gypsies. You will have no luck. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: Raoul Duke on April 02, 2013, 10:51:23 PM Anyway old news, btw pirate re what you stole: I come from a long line of gypsies. You will have no luck. He will just buy a toad. Title: Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. Post by: notbatman on October 19, 2014, 10:34:19 PM And Vladimir used to be so level headed. This sure has got his panties in a bunch. He's not the only one that's started living full time in BTC Fantasy Land. You can tell which ones have gone off the deep end easily. They're the ones who actually believe that the Police Cops are going to ring up Interpol's cybercrime unit for the sake of tracking down their stolen/scammed BTC. As if any law enforcement agency in the world has a Cryptocoin Recovery Division, or cares in the least about their Magic Internet Money. They've completely lost it ('it' being contact with consensus reality). ::) The FTC cares. |
