Title: After death Post by: Tyrantt on December 15, 2016, 02:29:25 AM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate.
That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. EDIT: This question refers more the philosophical view on the period after ones death, so please keep the hc religious beliefs or non-religious away from this thread, tho there are already a few. Thank you. Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on December 15, 2016, 03:06:53 AM Toss a stone into the pond. The ripples aren't the stone. But like they move upon the face of the pond, even so their vibration might extend forever even if it is in only a tiny, tiny way.
The "essence" of a person is NOT his physical form alone. Emotion, spirit and thought extend beyond the physical. But even they are not the person, entirely. However, we know from people who have lost many parts of their physical body, that although the emotion, and spirit and mind may change from the loss, the emotion, and spirit and mind are still strongly the person... way more strongly than simply the physical. It seems that the "metaphysical" parts of a person go on just like the vibes of the stone that is tossed into the water. And being way more complex than the stone waves, who knows what will happen to them? Certainly they are not the same as they were when they were held captive in the physical body. You wanted an answer that didn't have a lot to do with God, directly, so there you have it. However, nobody can remove God from the equation, since He holds everything in place. So, consider what He says before you do something as disastrous as suicide. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: protokol on December 15, 2016, 03:32:16 AM Toss a stone into the pond. The ripples aren't the stone. But like they move upon the face of the pond, even so their vibration might extend forever even if it is in only a tiny, tiny way. The "essence" of a person is NOT his physical form alone. Emotion, spirit and thought extend beyond the physical. But even they are not the person, entirely. However, we know from people who have lost many parts of their physical body, that although the emotion, and spirit and mind may change from the loss, the emotion, and spirit and mind are still strongly the person... way more strongly than simply the physical. It seems that the "metaphysical" parts of a person go on just like the vibes of the stone that is tossed into the water. And being way more complex than the stone waves, who knows what will happen to them? Certainly they are not the same as they were when they were held captive in the physical body. You wanted an answer that didn't have a lot to do with God, directly, so there you have it. However, nobody can remove God from the equation, since He holds everything in place. So, consider what He says before you do something as disastrous as suicide. 8) Nicely written piece of prose there, I found it relaxing and pleasant to read even though I don't agree with it. The problem with your theory is that the majority of a human being's "essence" or consciousness resides in the brain (perhaps some in the spinal cord, or other organs but the brain is where the real shit happens). If someone, for example, lost a limb in a car crash, their essence or consciousness hasn't been directly affected as long as their brain remains intact. If you start lobotomizing people, then their consciousness will become affected. As for your analogy of "ripples in water", well it's a cute concept but it makes no sense in terms of consciousness. Our influences on the world certainly affect things in an outward, ripply, butterfly effect type of way, but we are not "experiencing" any of those influences in the same way we experience emotions or pain through our conscious brain. So it is a different thing entirely. If I throw a huge rock into the sea, which creates a tsunami 1000 miles away that kills and injures thousands of people, I am not conscious of their suffering. Yeah I would feel terrible if I heard it on the news the next day, but I'm not intrinsically linked to the people I killed by some sort of metaphysical waves. On topic, when you die you rot in the ground. The atoms and molecules that make up your body (which were created billions of years ago in multiple interstellar supernovae) are broken down by insects, bacteria, fungi and other strange creatures. The resulting chemicals are consumed by organisms, which prosper and grow, eventually making offspring of their own. These organisms will eventually die, rot, and the chemicals in their dead bodies will provide food for the next generation of plants and animals. I think it's a beautiful concept personally. Of course I don't know this for sure, but from what we know it seems like the most likely explanation. We will only know for sure when the time comes, but until then I'm gonna try and make the most of life on this (sometimes shitty) planet. Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on December 15, 2016, 03:53:46 AM Toss a stone into the pond. The ripples aren't the stone. But like they move upon the face of the pond, even so their vibration might extend forever even if it is in only a tiny, tiny way. The "essence" of a person is NOT his physical form alone. Emotion, spirit and thought extend beyond the physical. But even they are not the person, entirely. However, we know from people who have lost many parts of their physical body, that although the emotion, and spirit and mind may change from the loss, the emotion, and spirit and mind are still strongly the person... way more strongly than simply the physical. It seems that the "metaphysical" parts of a person go on just like the vibes of the stone that is tossed into the water. And being way more complex than the stone waves, who knows what will happen to them? Certainly they are not the same as they were when they were held captive in the physical body. You wanted an answer that didn't have a lot to do with God, directly, so there you have it. However, nobody can remove God from the equation, since He holds everything in place. So, consider what He says before you do something as disastrous as suicide. 8) Nicely written piece of prose there, I found it relaxing and pleasant to read even though I don't agree with it. The problem with your theory is that the majority of a human being's "essence" or consciousness resides in the brain (perhaps some in the spinal cord, or other organs but the brain is where the real shit happens). If someone, for example, lost a limb in a car crash, their essence or consciousness hasn't been directly affected as long as their brain remains intact. If you start lobotomizing people, then their consciousness will become affected. As for your analogy of "ripples in water", well it's a cute concept but it makes no sense in terms of consciousness. Our influences on the world certainly affect things in an outward, ripply, butterfly effect type of way, but we are not "experiencing" any of those influences in the same way we experience emotions or pain through our conscious brain. So it is a different thing entirely. If I throw a huge rock into the sea, which creates a tsunami 1000 miles away that kills and injures thousands of people, I am not conscious of their suffering. Yeah I would feel terrible if I heard it on the news the next day, but I'm not intrinsically linked to the people I killed by some sort of metaphysical waves. In addition, consider when you move to a new city. It takes a long time for people to get used to you being there. A lot of it includes sympathetic and empathetic vibes. You are trying to cover up the knowledge that exists medically and physically all over the place, that our vibes continue on after death, even though they are in a changed form, and even though they are weaker (are they weaker?) than they might have been in the living body. On topic, when you die you rot in the ground. The atoms and molecules that make up your body (which were created billions of years ago in multiple interstellar supernovae) are broken down by insects, bacteria, fungi and other strange creatures. The resulting chemicals are consumed by organisms, which prosper and grow, eventually making offspring of their own. These organisms will eventually die, rot, and the chemicals in their dead bodies will provide food for the next generation of plants and animals. I think it's a beautiful concept personally. Of course I don't know this for sure, but from what we know it seems like the most likely explanation. We will only know for sure when the time comes, but until then I'm gonna try and make the most of life on this (sometimes shitty) planet. Finally. You don't know for sure. Understatement of everything you had to say. Live on, in your sometimes shitty life. But learn to think a little. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: Wei H on December 15, 2016, 04:14:33 AM To me, death is something like before the born, since you're a person who talking here you might born in 20th century, so just think how do you feel when the time roll back to 19th century? you feel nothing. And how about the 2 million years ago? So my thought is there will be nothing after death, you will feel nothing even million years passes by.
The only thing is nothing. It’s terrible to me because I won't be able to see and feel this beautiful world/universe anymore after death but I can't still understand how does this "nothing" feel like, completely. :-\ Title: Re: After death Post by: canah17 on December 15, 2016, 05:39:32 AM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. In my own ideas i don't really believe in reborn or reincarnated because if you do you have the slightest chance to have your past memories because the souls is connected to the brain if your soul is past down by someone you have the same attitude in the past even though you are not interested in christian etc. but i have a theory that when we die we might go to heaven and we don't really know whats in there or whats the nature there but believe me when we die we go to heaven i know its hard to believe it but its real alright when our time comes our answers will be answered my friend but then you have to believe in God in order to solve that big question mark in your head :) its possible really :) just a simple thing you will add up just believe :) Title: Re: After death Post by: wowanstrong on December 15, 2016, 09:33:24 AM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. In my own ideas i don't really believe in reborn or reincarnated because if you do you have the slightest chance to have your past memories because the souls is connected to the brain if your soul is past down by someone you have the same attitude in the past even though you are not interested in christian etc. but i have a theory that when we die we might go to heaven and we don't really know whats in there or whats the nature there but believe me when we die we go to heaven i know its hard to believe it but its real alright when our time comes our answers will be answered my friend but then you have to believe in God in order to solve that big question mark in your head :) its possible really :) just a simple thing you will add up just believe :) Title: Re: After death Post by: MaryAngela_Fantocci on December 15, 2016, 02:14:46 PM I think that when human die his consciousness is calm down and there is no such concept as "personality" or "I am"..
Title: Re: After death Post by: iamTom123 on December 15, 2016, 02:47:39 PM I think that when human die his consciousness is calm down and there is no such concept as "personality" or "I am".. Yes, death means end of consciousness as we know and experience it now...it means the end of the physical life or just the opposite of life...death means absence of life. As to different religious explanations and beliefs, they all are contradicting each other and until now there is no judge as to who is telling the truth. In my personal religious belief, death means death until there is a higher power that has the right to resurrect the dead ones. In many cases, it is us humans who are just confusing things and putting so many colors to many simple concepts...we are using our imaginations to come up with wild explanations. Title: Re: After death Post by: MaryAngela_Fantocci on December 15, 2016, 02:56:47 PM I think that when human die his consciousness is calm down and there is no such concept as "personality" or "I am".. Yes, death means end of consciousness as we know and experience it now...it means the end of the physical life or just the opposite of life...death means absence of life. As to different religious explanations and beliefs, they all are contradicting each other and until now there is no judge as to who is telling the truth. In my personal religious belief, death means death until there is a higher power that has the right to resurrect the dead ones. In many cases, it is us humans who are just confusing things and putting so many colors to many simple concepts...we are using our imaginations to come up with wild explanations. For my opinion we just have fear that our lives will end and it's not in our power to finish or continue. And people invent different conceptions to "continue their lives" for more psychological comfort Title: Re: After death Post by: swastik384 on December 15, 2016, 05:07:08 PM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. That's a mystery till now. But many of the theories have revealed that soul will be transfer to another body when human died but in my view if the soul of human be transfer to another then the soul of every living beings in world should be transfer like a cycle. Is that be possible? No, then what happen exactly to soul of human body? Will it travel to heaven or hell as what they have done in their life (good work or bad work)? Title: Re: After death Post by: Daniel91 on December 15, 2016, 05:20:33 PM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. You have to understand that you are not only flesh but also soul, spirit. Your body eventually pass and die, but your spirit is eternal. If you kill yourself, you harm your spirit and can't find peace in the other world. Please don't even think about it. You will not be born again on the earth, it's misunderstanding. You can come back as spirit, and connect with the people on the earth, but it's not the same as be born again. If you did bad things when you lived on the earth, you will have to help your descendants on the earth not to repeat the same mistakes. In this way, you will resurrect and get rid from everything evil, what block you to go to the Heaven and to be free. Because of it, our life on earth is so precious and can't be repeated. Title: Re: After death Post by: Racey on December 15, 2016, 06:04:21 PM If you could remember anything before you was born, then after death might mean something.
But as we do not, there would be nothing after. When death comes it is forever imo, you become a very small part of the whole universe mainly dust. Title: Re: After death Post by: protokol on December 15, 2016, 07:11:54 PM Toss a stone into the pond. The ripples aren't the stone. But like they move upon the face of the pond, even so their vibration might extend forever even if it is in only a tiny, tiny way. The "essence" of a person is NOT his physical form alone. Emotion, spirit and thought extend beyond the physical. But even they are not the person, entirely. However, we know from people who have lost many parts of their physical body, that although the emotion, and spirit and mind may change from the loss, the emotion, and spirit and mind are still strongly the person... way more strongly than simply the physical. It seems that the "metaphysical" parts of a person go on just like the vibes of the stone that is tossed into the water. And being way more complex than the stone waves, who knows what will happen to them? Certainly they are not the same as they were when they were held captive in the physical body. You wanted an answer that didn't have a lot to do with God, directly, so there you have it. However, nobody can remove God from the equation, since He holds everything in place. So, consider what He says before you do something as disastrous as suicide. 8) Nicely written piece of prose there, I found it relaxing and pleasant to read even though I don't agree with it. The problem with your theory is that the majority of a human being's "essence" or consciousness resides in the brain (perhaps some in the spinal cord, or other organs but the brain is where the real shit happens). If someone, for example, lost a limb in a car crash, their essence or consciousness hasn't been directly affected as long as their brain remains intact. If you start lobotomizing people, then their consciousness will become affected. As for your analogy of "ripples in water", well it's a cute concept but it makes no sense in terms of consciousness. Our influences on the world certainly affect things in an outward, ripply, butterfly effect type of way, but we are not "experiencing" any of those influences in the same way we experience emotions or pain through our conscious brain. So it is a different thing entirely. If I throw a huge rock into the sea, which creates a tsunami 1000 miles away that kills and injures thousands of people, I am not conscious of their suffering. Yeah I would feel terrible if I heard it on the news the next day, but I'm not intrinsically linked to the people I killed by some sort of metaphysical waves. In addition, consider when you move to a new city. It takes a long time for people to get used to you being there. A lot of it includes sympathetic and empathetic vibes. You are trying to cover up the knowledge that exists medically and physically all over the place, that our vibes continue on after death, even though they are in a changed form, and even though they are weaker (are they weaker?) than they might have been in the living body. On topic, when you die you rot in the ground. The atoms and molecules that make up your body (which were created billions of years ago in multiple interstellar supernovae) are broken down by insects, bacteria, fungi and other strange creatures. The resulting chemicals are consumed by organisms, which prosper and grow, eventually making offspring of their own. These organisms will eventually die, rot, and the chemicals in their dead bodies will provide food for the next generation of plants and animals. I think it's a beautiful concept personally. Of course I don't know this for sure, but from what we know it seems like the most likely explanation. We will only know for sure when the time comes, but until then I'm gonna try and make the most of life on this (sometimes shitty) planet. Finally. You don't know for sure. Understatement of everything you had to say. Live on, in your sometimes shitty life. But learn to think a little. 8) I started to reply to your points, but then I realized not a single one made sense, or even had anything to do with what I said. So I gave up. We'll never agree anyway because you believe in a soul and a god 100%, and I don't, and I know that your stubborness prevents anyone from changing your views. I will say your comment accusing me of ignorance made no sense - I know how EEG and CAT scans work, and they have nothing to do with life after death. CAT scans are especially irrelevant because they are basically X-rays - they output radiation and record what is reflected back. You could do a CAT scan on a teapot and it would still appear on the screen - does that mean the teapot has a soul? EEGs are different, because they are measuring the electrical activity in the brain. And yes, some of this energy will certainly reach outside the brain. But that absolutely doesn't mean that we can use this energy in any useful way, and it certainly isn't evidence for a soul. Your final paragraph just sums up your attitude - yes of course I don't know for sure, but NOR DO YOU! And you believe in some real crazy shit man! The worst thing is, you think you're above everyone else with your "scientific proofs of god" etc, when you're actually just very indoctrinated, arrogant, and unwilling to change your mind about literally everything you believe. Open your mind a little, you might learn something! Title: Re: After death Post by: Boobies00 on December 15, 2016, 08:21:58 PM Well I have been dead for a couple of minutes. Luckily I was on an operating table and they were able to revive me.
I saw nothing. Title: Re: After death Post by: actmyname on December 15, 2016, 10:58:00 PM My personal thoughts on the premise are that there will be nothing after death - your consciousness will dim and end - and that that is all.
Thoughts of having a soul or reincarnation are simply ideas for self-comfort, to ease the idea of death. Why worry about so many things in this life when you can simply have everlasting luxuries in the next? Regardless of religious preference, it should be agreed that in the past, religion was used as a form of control for the masses. In times of struggle, is it not easier to hold on to hope if you had something to strive for? Why wouldn't you give up in times of great pain, like in a war, unless you had something to look forward to were you to continue? The human body and mind persevere in these points of time. I have the idea that there is but emptiness after death however it is fine for others to believe differently. Title: Re: After death Post by: kodes88 on December 16, 2016, 01:52:59 AM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. Maybe you're not interested, but the explanation is in the religion of Islam on after death is really reasonable and acceptable. After death, the man will be gathered in one place. For those who do well when alive, the place will feel cool and comfortable, but it was not yet in heaven. And for people who are always doing evil and ugliness did when alive, where it will feel hot and uncomfortable, but it was not hell. Then our behavior over the world will be weighed, if heavier toward goodness, then we will be incorporated into heaven, and it was forever. And if more weight toward evil, we will go to hell, and it's forever.That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. Title: Re: After death Post by: Tyrantt on December 16, 2016, 02:57:15 AM To me, death is something like before the born, since you're a person who talking here you might born in 20th century, so just think how do you feel when the time roll back to 19th century? you feel nothing. And how about the 2 million years ago? So my thought is there will be nothing after death, you will feel nothing even million years passes by. The only thing is nothing. It’s terrible to me because I won't be able to see and feel this beautiful world/universe anymore after death but I can't still understand how does this "nothing" feel like, completely. :-\ Like before you were born, that's the answer I get most of the times. But how was it before you were born? :P what happened before that? before you've became a fetus, before even you were conceived? That's the question that's been bothering me. I really want to know that but I guess that's one question that we will never have the answer to or not untill we pass away ourselves. Title: Re: After death Post by: Tyrantt on December 16, 2016, 03:00:31 AM Toss a stone into the pond. The ripples aren't the stone. But like they move upon the face of the pond, even so their vibration might extend forever even if it is in only a tiny, tiny way. The "essence" of a person is NOT his physical form alone. Emotion, spirit and thought extend beyond the physical. But even they are not the person, entirely. However, we know from people who have lost many parts of their physical body, that although the emotion, and spirit and mind may change from the loss, the emotion, and spirit and mind are still strongly the person... way more strongly than simply the physical. It seems that the "metaphysical" parts of a person go on just like the vibes of the stone that is tossed into the water. And being way more complex than the stone waves, who knows what will happen to them? Certainly they are not the same as they were when they were held captive in the physical body. You wanted an answer that didn't have a lot to do with God, directly, so there you have it. However, nobody can remove God from the equation, since He holds everything in place. So, consider what He says before you do something as disastrous as suicide. 8) Nice metaphore truly, but the only reason I asked for opinions was because we all know the of the afterlife of most religions. I wanted a new perspective, your personal like if you ignore your religious believes for a moment, what could happen to us or our souls after w pass away. unconscious eternal darkness is something that doesn't satisfy me as the possible answer. Title: Re: After death Post by: Tyrantt on December 16, 2016, 03:03:48 AM If you could remember anything before you was born, then after death might mean something. But as we do not, there would be nothing after. When death comes it is forever imo, you become a very small part of the whole universe mainly dust. Well there were cases of kids remembering their "past lives" in detail. So that's kind of something to look into. There are a few cases on youtube about that. How can it be forever if you're not aware of it? Time disapears there and it's completely irrelevant. I can't grasp that concept of eternal nothing. Title: Re: After death Post by: Tyrantt on December 16, 2016, 03:08:30 AM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. Maybe you're not interested, but the explanation is in the religion of Islam on after death is really reasonable and acceptable. After death, the man will be gathered in one place. For those who do well when alive, the place will feel cool and comfortable, but it was not yet in heaven. And for people who are always doing evil and ugliness did when alive, where it will feel hot and uncomfortable, but it was not hell. Then our behavior over the world will be weighed, if heavier toward goodness, then we will be incorporated into heaven, and it was forever. And if more weight toward evil, we will go to hell, and it's forever.That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. ok, that's some thought. But how do you go to heaven/hell then? In what state? Like do you keep your appearence of what was it in the moment of your death or some significant moment of your life? If the first case is the right one, how do blown up or beheaded or in any other way mutilated victims go to heaven/hell? Or is it like a soul on itself but we see us as we want, what we see ourselves as through I life? I'm not a religious person myself, but I'm really interested in the religion and it's beliefs that it preaches. Title: Re: After death Post by: Tyrantt on December 16, 2016, 03:16:25 AM My personal thoughts on the premise are that there will be nothing after death - your consciousness will dim and end - and that that is all. Thoughts of having a soul or reincarnation are simply ideas for self-comfort, to ease the idea of death. Why worry about so many things in this life when you can simply have everlasting luxuries in the next? Regardless of religious preference, it should be agreed that in the past, religion was used as a form of control for the masses. In times of struggle, is it not easier to hold on to hope if you had something to strive for? Why wouldn't you give up in times of great pain, like in a war, unless you had something to look forward to were you to continue? The human body and mind persevere in these points of time. I have the idea that there is but emptiness after death however it is fine for others to believe differently. But how can you know? That's the thing that's bothering me. There a lot of opinions, religious teachings about the afterlife but what's killing me is the fact that we'll never know. There may be nothing and there may some other dimension that we go to after we're separated from our physical body. Just like dreams, maybe, maybe, when we dream we enter that place where we go when we die where the whole world is based on our mind and we actually create the whole world we want it to be. I don't know and it's bugging me. Title: Re: After death Post by: FlamingFingers on December 16, 2016, 07:09:07 PM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. Oh dear, Tyrantt. Why did you jump to the conclusion ::)? What you said is what happens after the last/dooms/judgment day (that good people go to Heaven and bad ones be punished in Hell). So, until that day comes, dead people are still waiting for it.That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. Actually, Islam tells what happens after one's death; When someone is dying (either Muslim or Non-Muslim), his/her eyes always follow his/her soul after it's pulled out of his/her body (that's probably why most people stare after death). After that, the soul rise in the sky. While on the way to the last sky, the soul meets its ancestors who will ask it about what he/she did in life (whether he/she was good or bad), they will keep asking, even about the pet lived in that soul's house. If that soul was good, they would be proud of it, otherwise, they would be ashamed of him/her. Then, when the body of the soul is buried/burnt/mummified/whatever, the soul will reside where the body/remnants is/are. One will hear, see and speak as he did in life, but no one can hear/feel him/her. If one was good, he/she would see light. If one was bad, he/she would see darkness. He/She can also hear people around him/her (the living), he/she would say to his/her family and friends; O' family and friends, where did you put me? Why did you leave me here? Where are you going? (of course, no one can hear him/her) Of course, there are some contexts that you wouldn't like (Muslim things, you know), so I won't write them. In brief, Until the day of resurrection, people's bodies and souls will be waiting to be resurrected to be judged. PS: Gendre Equality is a little annoying here, but whatever. Title: Re: After death Post by: Buffer Overflow on December 16, 2016, 08:26:16 PM Actually, Islam tells what happens after one's death Actually Islam blindly guesses what happens after one's death, if indeed anything does actually happen. The same as all the other so called "holy" books.Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on December 16, 2016, 08:48:52 PM Actually, Islam tells what happens after one's death Actually Islam blindly guesses what happens after one's death, if indeed anything does actually happen. The same as all the other so called "holy" books.And you know this exactly how? That's what I thought. Big guess. Easy for you to talk without having any foundation for your big talk. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: Buffer Overflow on December 16, 2016, 09:34:47 PM Actually, Islam tells what happens after one's death Actually Islam blindly guesses what happens after one's death, if indeed anything does actually happen. The same as all the other so called "holy" books.And you know this exactly how? That's what I thought. Big guess. Easy for you to talk without having any foundation for your big talk. 8) Solid logic. Title: Re: After death Post by: petsae on December 16, 2016, 11:56:34 PM We can only guessing what is after death. I believe in metaphysical world, but I also believe that everything can be explained by science, but for now we are not at this stage.
Title: Re: After death Post by: FlamingFingers on December 17, 2016, 12:41:15 AM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. Oh dear, Tyrantt. Why did you jump to the conclusion ::)? What you said is what happens after the last/dooms/judgment day (that good people go to Heaven and bad ones be punished in Hell). So, until that day comes, dead people are still waiting for it.That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. Actually, Islam tells what happens after one's death; When someone is dying (either Muslim or Non-Muslim), his/her eyes always follow his/her soul after it's pulled out of his/her body (that's probably why most people stare after death). After that, the soul rise in the sky. While on the way to the last sky, the soul meets its ancestors who will ask it about what he/she did in life (whether he/she was good or bad), they will keep asking, even about the pet lived in that soul's house. If that soul was good, they would be proud of it, otherwise, they would be ashamed of him/her. Then, when the body of the soul is buried/burnt/mummified/whatever, the soul will reside where the body/remnants is/are. One will hear, see and speak as he did in life, but no one can hear/feel him/her. If one was good, he/she would see light. If one was bad, he/she would see darkness. He/She can also hear people around him/her (the living), he/she would say to his/her family and friends; O' family and friends, where did you put me? Why did you leave me here? Where are you going? (of course, no one can hear him/her) Of course, there are some contexts that you wouldn't like (Muslim things, you know), so I won't write them. In brief, Until the day of resurrection, people's bodies and souls will be waiting to be resurrected to be judged. PS: Gendre Equality is a little annoying here, but whatever. And how did the Islamic writers know this? They pulled this story straight out of their asses? So the souls talk but nobody hears them, yet someone wrote that they talk? It is like the story of Muhammed who flew to heaven in the middle of the night, and nobody saw it, but someone wrote about it. Plus, that story as you call it, was a trial (a test) for both; fellows of the prophet and infidels of Quraysh. prophet Muhammed told them both about his journey to see who would believe him and most of Quraysh's infidels knew the truth (they knew that Prophet Muhammed would never lie), but they were too arrogant and stubborn to submit to it, that's how Islamic writers wrote about it. Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on December 17, 2016, 12:56:37 AM Actually, Islam tells what happens after one's death Actually Islam blindly guesses what happens after one's death, if indeed anything does actually happen. The same as all the other so called "holy" books.And you know this exactly how? That's what I thought. Big guess. Easy for you to talk without having any foundation for your big talk. 8) Solid logic. You are sooo extremely informative. When somebody dies, it isn't that person anymore. There is a dead body, and there is the remains of the spirit, etc. But none of this is that person. It's only living people who think of dead people as dead people. You tell us nothing. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: kodes88 on December 17, 2016, 02:11:12 AM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. Maybe you're not interested, but the explanation is in the religion of Islam on after death is really reasonable and acceptable. After death, the man will be gathered in one place. For those who do well when alive, the place will feel cool and comfortable, but it was not yet in heaven. And for people who are always doing evil and ugliness did when alive, where it will feel hot and uncomfortable, but it was not hell. Then our behavior over the world will be weighed, if heavier toward goodness, then we will be incorporated into heaven, and it was forever. And if more weight toward evil, we will go to hell, and it's forever.That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. ok, that's some thought. But how do you go to heaven/hell then? In what state? Like do you keep your appearence of what was it in the moment of your death or some significant moment of your life? If the first case is the right one, how do blown up or beheaded or in any other way mutilated victims go to heaven/hell? Or is it like a soul on itself but we see us as we want, what we see ourselves as through I life? I'm not a religious person myself, but I'm really interested in the religion and it's beliefs that it preaches. If you want to go to heaven, you must "always" do good in the world during your lifetime. Although all is not guarantee that you will go to heaven, but at least you've tried and tried to get into heaven. Well, so while we were still in our mother's womb, in the content reaches 4 months of age, God breathed life to the fetus us. So we have a soul. And when we die, our souls will be out of our bodies "intact" even when our bodies die are not intact. And the soul that would later go to heaven / hell. That's roughly outlined in Islam. Even more, my explanation is still lacking. Title: Re: After death Post by: Buffer Overflow on December 17, 2016, 06:31:42 AM You are sooo extremely informative. Indeed. Shame your too stubborn to listen. You'd learn a thing or two.8) What you fail to realise is I'm actually following your logic. You claim we cannot know what the sun is made of because we've never been there. You claim we cannot know if blackholes are real because we've never been to one. You claim we cannot know the world is millions of years old because we cannot go back in time to check. Yet when I follow your logic with, "we cannot know what after death is like because we haven't died yet".... Oh dear, you quickley abandon your position and start hand wringing, puffing your chest in and out and get that funny knotty feeling in your tummy. :D There is a dead body, and there is the remains of the spirit, etc. Guessing we actually have a spirit of course.8) You tell us nothing. Sorry the truth leaves such a bad taste in your mouth. Sorry about that.8) Title: Re: After death Post by: Slow death on December 17, 2016, 12:07:15 PM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. I already asked myself that question. reincarnate, How could that be possible? If someone reincarnated in another body means that there is a soul? Let's assume that everyone has soul, person X died in a car accident and saw another body and decided to occupy that other body Y, does this mean that the soul X will fight with the soul Y to occupy his body? But if the body Y is of a baby who is only a few days old, how does the soul X (soul of an adult) go to occupy the body of a baby? If we assume that each person has a soul, they also have to admit that there is heaven and hell, angels and demons. Yes, because does someone have to be responsible for guiding these souls and why has not a soul ever appeared to humans? If a soul can occupy another body does it mean that souls can touch objects? Can souls take revenge on who took their lives? There are many more questions, but I believe the following: People when they die do not come back, they do not reincarnate in other bodies... they just disappear. Title: Re: After death Post by: stats on December 17, 2016, 01:40:47 PM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. My belief is that we are just energy particles. Upon our death and during the time of decomposition or burning, our energy particles move through the energy of the world we live in and move into other masses. These masses could be grass, insects, animals..... whatever. It is just energy particles. Upon the death of that object the energy particles separate and move into another object, thus the cycle repeats itself. This is why people have feelings of de-jav-u. Energy particles which have been linked and momentarily meet up. I don't know if this is true or not, but this is what I believe. Like it or not.... it works for me. Title: Re: After death Post by: Tyrantt on December 17, 2016, 03:42:27 PM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. Oh dear, Tyrantt. Why did you jump to the conclusion ::)? What you said is what happens after the last/dooms/judgment day (that good people go to Heaven and bad ones be punished in Hell). So, until that day comes, dead people are still waiting for it.That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. Actually, Islam tells what happens after one's death; When someone is dying (either Muslim or Non-Muslim), his/her eyes always follow his/her soul after it's pulled out of his/her body (that's probably why most people stare after death). After that, the soul rise in the sky. While on the way to the last sky, the soul meets its ancestors who will ask it about what he/she did in life (whether he/she was good or bad), they will keep asking, even about the pet lived in that soul's house. If that soul was good, they would be proud of it, otherwise, they would be ashamed of him/her. Then, when the body of the soul is buried/burnt/mummified/whatever, the soul will reside where the body/remnants is/are. One will hear, see and speak as he did in life, but no one can hear/feel him/her. If one was good, he/she would see light. If one was bad, he/she would see darkness. He/She can also hear people around him/her (the living), he/she would say to his/her family and friends; O' family and friends, where did you put me? Why did you leave me here? Where are you going? (of course, no one can hear him/her) Of course, there are some contexts that you wouldn't like (Muslim things, you know), so I won't write them. In brief, Until the day of resurrection, people's bodies and souls will be waiting to be resurrected to be judged. PS: Gendre Equality is a little annoying here, but whatever. Every religion tells what's happening after one dies. That's why I didn't ask for religious beliefs. Title: Re: After death Post by: Tyrantt on December 17, 2016, 03:45:15 PM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. Oh dear, Tyrantt. Why did you jump to the conclusion ::)? What you said is what happens after the last/dooms/judgment day (that good people go to Heaven and bad ones be punished in Hell). So, until that day comes, dead people are still waiting for it.That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. Actually, Islam tells what happens after one's death; When someone is dying (either Muslim or Non-Muslim), his/her eyes always follow his/her soul after it's pulled out of his/her body (that's probably why most people stare after death). After that, the soul rise in the sky. While on the way to the last sky, the soul meets its ancestors who will ask it about what he/she did in life (whether he/she was good or bad), they will keep asking, even about the pet lived in that soul's house. If that soul was good, they would be proud of it, otherwise, they would be ashamed of him/her. Then, when the body of the soul is buried/burnt/mummified/whatever, the soul will reside where the body/remnants is/are. One will hear, see and speak as he did in life, but no one can hear/feel him/her. If one was good, he/she would see light. If one was bad, he/she would see darkness. He/She can also hear people around him/her (the living), he/she would say to his/her family and friends; O' family and friends, where did you put me? Why did you leave me here? Where are you going? (of course, no one can hear him/her) Of course, there are some contexts that you wouldn't like (Muslim things, you know), so I won't write them. In brief, Until the day of resurrection, people's bodies and souls will be waiting to be resurrected to be judged. PS: Gendre Equality is a little annoying here, but whatever. And how did the Islamic writers know this? They pulled this story straight out of their asses? So the souls talk but nobody hears them, yet someone wrote that they talk? It is like the story of Muhammed who flew to heaven in the middle of the night, and nobody saw it, but someone wrote about it. ahhaha That reminded me on the south park episode (http://southpark.cc.com/full-episodes/s07e12-all-about-mormons#source=6154fc40-b7a3-4387-94cc-fc42fc47376e:25eebc76-ed8e-11e0-aca6-0026b9414f30&position=12&sort=!airdate (http://southpark.cc.com/full-episodes/s07e12-all-about-mormons#source=6154fc40-b7a3-4387-94cc-fc42fc47376e:25eebc76-ed8e-11e0-aca6-0026b9414f30&position=12&sort=!airdate)) When the mormon family tells a story about the mormon fouunder. Title: Re: After death Post by: Tyrantt on December 17, 2016, 03:52:31 PM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. Oh dear, Tyrantt. Why did you jump to the conclusion ::)? What you said is what happens after the last/dooms/judgment day (that good people go to Heaven and bad ones be punished in Hell). So, until that day comes, dead people are still waiting for it.That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. Actually, Islam tells what happens after one's death; When someone is dying (either Muslim or Non-Muslim), his/her eyes always follow his/her soul after it's pulled out of his/her body (that's probably why most people stare after death). After that, the soul rise in the sky. While on the way to the last sky, the soul meets its ancestors who will ask it about what he/she did in life (whether he/she was good or bad), they will keep asking, even about the pet lived in that soul's house. If that soul was good, they would be proud of it, otherwise, they would be ashamed of him/her. Then, when the body of the soul is buried/burnt/mummified/whatever, the soul will reside where the body/remnants is/are. One will hear, see and speak as he did in life, but no one can hear/feel him/her. If one was good, he/she would see light. If one was bad, he/she would see darkness. He/She can also hear people around him/her (the living), he/she would say to his/her family and friends; O' family and friends, where did you put me? Why did you leave me here? Where are you going? (of course, no one can hear him/her) Of course, there are some contexts that you wouldn't like (Muslim things, you know), so I won't write them. In brief, Until the day of resurrection, people's bodies and souls will be waiting to be resurrected to be judged. PS: Gendre Equality is a little annoying here, but whatever. And how did the Islamic writers know this? They pulled this story straight out of their asses? So the souls talk but nobody hears them, yet someone wrote that they talk? It is like the story of Muhammed who flew to heaven in the middle of the night, and nobody saw it, but someone wrote about it. Plus, that story as you call it, was a trial (a test) for both; fellows of the prophet and infidels of Quraysh. prophet Muhammed told them both about his journey to see who would believe him and most of Quraysh's infidels knew the truth (they knew that Prophet Muhammed would never lie), but they were too arrogant and stubborn to submit to it, that's how Islamic writers wrote about it. And you don't find that a little strange, hm? So, if I start a rumor that I've seen a superman while I was walking all alone in the middle of the night where no one else was around - I was out in the woods, praying I was asking God if I should be a Protestant, or a Catholic, or what? And suddenly God and Jesus appeared before me. And they said I should start my own church, because none of the others had it right. And that's exactly how it happened. - You see? You believe it now? - Well yeah, sure. Why would he make that up? Familliar? Title: Re: After death Post by: Tyrantt on December 17, 2016, 04:32:27 PM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. My belief is that we are just energy particles. Upon our death and during the time of decomposition or burning, our energy particles move through the energy of the world we live in and move into other masses. These masses could be grass, insects, animals..... whatever. It is just energy particles. Upon the death of that object the energy particles separate and move into another object, thus the cycle repeats itself. This is why people have feelings of de-jav-u. Energy particles which have been linked and momentarily meet up. I don't know if this is true or not, but this is what I believe. Like it or not.... it works for me. That's the thinking I've asked for in this topic, thought that are different to the religious ones and unique. But I like to see deja vu like a checkpoint in game where you've died last time, so whenever I experience a case of deja vu i go "NICE! I've passed it thistime without dying." :D Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on December 17, 2016, 05:10:56 PM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. Oh dear, Tyrantt. Why did you jump to the conclusion ::)? What you said is what happens after the last/dooms/judgment day (that good people go to Heaven and bad ones be punished in Hell). So, until that day comes, dead people are still waiting for it.That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. Actually, Islam tells what happens after one's death; When someone is dying (either Muslim or Non-Muslim), his/her eyes always follow his/her soul after it's pulled out of his/her body (that's probably why most people stare after death). After that, the soul rise in the sky. While on the way to the last sky, the soul meets its ancestors who will ask it about what he/she did in life (whether he/she was good or bad), they will keep asking, even about the pet lived in that soul's house. If that soul was good, they would be proud of it, otherwise, they would be ashamed of him/her. Then, when the body of the soul is buried/burnt/mummified/whatever, the soul will reside where the body/remnants is/are. One will hear, see and speak as he did in life, but no one can hear/feel him/her. If one was good, he/she would see light. If one was bad, he/she would see darkness. He/She can also hear people around him/her (the living), he/she would say to his/her family and friends; O' family and friends, where did you put me? Why did you leave me here? Where are you going? (of course, no one can hear him/her) Of course, there are some contexts that you wouldn't like (Muslim things, you know), so I won't write them. In brief, Until the day of resurrection, people's bodies and souls will be waiting to be resurrected to be judged. PS: Gendre Equality is a little annoying here, but whatever. And how did the Islamic writers know this? They pulled this story straight out of their asses? So the souls talk but nobody hears them, yet someone wrote that they talk? It is like the story of Muhammed who flew to heaven in the middle of the night, and nobody saw it, but someone wrote about it. Plus, that story as you call it, was a trial (a test) for both; fellows of the prophet and infidels of Quraysh. prophet Muhammed told them both about his journey to see who would believe him and most of Quraysh's infidels knew the truth (they knew that Prophet Muhammed would never lie), but they were too arrogant and stubborn to submit to it, that's how Islamic writers wrote about it. And you don't find that a little strange, hm? So, if I start a rumor that I've seen a superman while I was walking all alone in the middle of the night where no one else was around - I was out in the woods, praying I was asking God if I should be a Protestant, or a Catholic, or what? And suddenly God and Jesus appeared before me. And they said I should start my own church, because none of the others had it right. And that's exactly how it happened. - You see? You believe it now? - Well yeah, sure. Why would he make that up? Familliar? One of the best blessings we all have regarding Islam is, the Koran and Hadiths were written down. Why is this a blessing? Because in-depth study of the writings shows that Islam is a religion of wealth-through-violence. Here's what I mean. If you want to make money, you need organization. Seldom does money just fall into a person's lap. A religious government is a great way to set up an organized structure for making money. Properly used, fear can be a strong motivator. Islam essentially says that every peaceful person, in times of peace, who is other than a Muslim, must be given a chance to turn to Islam. If, after an unspecified time, he doesn't turn, his Islamic friends and neighbors are supposed to turn on him and kill him. This helps Islam to grow... growth by fear. If a Muslim leaves the Islamic faith, he is to be executed, like, immediately. The fear of friends turning on friends keeps Muslims firmly embedded in the Muslim worship and practices, which includes paying taxes to the Islamic clerics. So, the money-making, fear scheme of Islam grows. Stockholm Syndrome sets in among Muslims at an early age. They don't realize that their feelings of freedom that they might have are based on a fear of death at the hands of their friends. Because of this, they are fanatically loyal to their religion. The mild Islamic groups like the Sunni's simply have gone untended to a great extent. They are among the weakest of the true Islamic followers. Groups like ISIS, while being great among Islamic followers, are often over-zealous in their attempts to purge even weak Muslims from the ranks of Islam, and regarding their religion, do more harm than good. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: Sithara007 on December 17, 2016, 05:12:10 PM The life and soul ends with our death. Being a Hindu, my body will be cremated shortly after my death. I don't believe in any afterlife. Once we die, that is going to be the end. Full stop.
Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on December 17, 2016, 05:34:07 PM The life and soul ends with our death. Being a Hindu, my body will be cremated shortly after my death. I don't believe in any afterlife. Once we die, that is going to be the end. Full stop. The complex vibes of your spirit, soul and mind go on forever, in a different form after death. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: Leprikon on December 21, 2016, 08:33:35 PM The life and soul ends with our death. Being a Hindu, my body will be cremated shortly after my death. I don't believe in any afterlife. Once we die, that is going to be the end. Full stop. The complex vibes of your spirit, soul and mind go on forever, in a different form after death. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: chachaa on December 21, 2016, 10:05:35 PM There was this idea that when you die you crate you own afterlife place. How you may ask, well like this. It depends if you was good or bad person, if you was good person that your "heaven" will be as good as you was in life. If you were bad, well than you would go to "hell" as bad as you was in life. Because nothing can be proved i dont know if is it true or falls, but its interesting idea dont you think. :D I think heaven and hell is the quality of the coffin. Those who after death go to heaven this means that the body is lying in a nice expensive coffin. Those who fall into hell, their bodies lie in cheap and low-quality coffins. That makes all the difference.Title: Re: After death Post by: chachaa on December 21, 2016, 10:24:37 PM There was this idea that when you die you crate you own afterlife place. How you may ask, well like this. It depends if you was good or bad person, if you was good person that your "heaven" will be as good as you was in life. If you were bad, well than you would go to "hell" as bad as you was in life. Because nothing can be proved i dont know if is it true or falls, but its interesting idea dont you think. :D I think heaven and hell is the quality of the coffin. Those who after death go to heaven this means that the body is lying in a nice expensive coffin. Those who fall into hell, their bodies lie in cheap and low-quality coffins. That makes all the difference.Now i understand why people are so fixated on earning money more and more. Its because they want only best coffin for they self how could they go to heaven after death... hmmm interesting. So you think that on some level people can sens comfort after death? Title: Re: After death Post by: usorin on December 22, 2016, 01:54:23 AM The life and soul ends with our death. Being a Hindu, my body will be cremated shortly after my death. I don't believe in any afterlife. Once we die, that is going to be the end. Full stop. The complex vibes of your spirit, soul and mind go on forever, in a different form after death. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on December 22, 2016, 03:40:46 AM The life and soul ends with our death. Being a Hindu, my body will be cremated shortly after my death. I don't believe in any afterlife. Once we die, that is going to be the end. Full stop. The complex vibes of your spirit, soul and mind go on forever, in a different form after death. 8) Well, he's right from the standpoint that it is no longer a man once it is dead. So, no matter how alive it is after death, life might be given to a man only once. It will be something else in the life after death. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: Tyrantt on December 22, 2016, 03:57:04 AM The life and soul ends with our death. Being a Hindu, my body will be cremated shortly after my death. I don't believe in any afterlife. Once we die, that is going to be the end. Full stop. The complex vibes of your spirit, soul and mind go on forever, in a different form after death. 8) Well, he's right from the standpoint that it is no longer a man once it is dead. So, no matter how alive it is after death, life might be given to a man only once. It will be something else in the life after death. 8) I don't know about that whole afterlife thing. If you ask me, the most interesting one is that we're born again just in teh different timeline. Like, if you die in this 21st century, your next life may be in 16th or 17th... Also, the whole second dimension thought is also interesting to me, similar to the world of dreams, where we do not feel physical senses but mostly visual and audio. Title: Re: After death Post by: Cusdonard on December 22, 2016, 09:59:46 AM When we die, everything just goes black. Unless you believe in the after life then there might be something else after. I don't believe it though.
Title: Re: After death Post by: Alfa123 on December 22, 2016, 10:35:18 AM The life and soul ends with our death. Being a Hindu, my body will be cremated shortly after my death. I don't believe in any afterlife. Once we die, that is going to be the end. Full stop. The complex vibes of your spirit, soul and mind go on forever, in a different form after death. 8) Well, he's right from the standpoint that it is no longer a man once it is dead. So, no matter how alive it is after death, life might be given to a man only once. It will be something else in the life after death. 8) I don't know about that whole afterlife thing. If you ask me, the most interesting one is that we're born again just in teh different timeline. Like, if you die in this 21st century, your next life may be in 16th or 17th... Also, the whole second dimension thought is also interesting to me, similar to the world of dreams, where we do not feel physical senses but mostly visual and audio. Title: Re: After death Post by: Alfa123 on December 22, 2016, 10:46:38 AM When we die, everything just goes black. Unless you believe in the after life then there might be something else after. I don't believe it though. Let say for moment that you and i believe in afterlife. What if one day when we die we find ourselves in afterlife and instead of going to heaven we go to hell, because we didnt believe in afterlife. What than when its too late? Title: Re: After death Post by: pseexh on December 22, 2016, 10:58:17 AM When we die, everything just goes black. Unless you believe in the after life then there might be something else after. I don't believe it though. Let say for moment that you and i believe in afterlife. What if one day when we die we find ourselves in afterlife and instead of going to heaven we go to hell, because we didnt believe in afterlife. What than when its too late? But what if we got it all wrong? What if God as we know it is fake, I mean not really the same. What if afterlife exist and it doesnt require from you to go to church... Maybe there is no God , but there is some kind of afterlife. Maybe reincarnation is real, and while you wait to be reborn you remain in "between-life" ? Title: Re: After death Post by: pseexh on December 22, 2016, 11:09:48 AM When we die, everything just goes black. Unless you believe in the after life then there might be something else after. I don't believe it though. Let say for moment that you and i believe in afterlife. What if one day when we die we find ourselves in afterlife and instead of going to heaven we go to hell, because we didnt believe in afterlife. What than when its too late? But what if we got it all wrong? What if God as we know it is fake, I mean not really the same. What if afterlife exist and it doesnt require from you to go to church... Maybe there is no God , but there is some kind of afterlife. Maybe reincarnation is real, and while you wait to be reborn you remain in "between-life" ? There I agree with you. Cant say anything, because i think the same way. But if there is chance that you can remember ? There are some stories that people are remembering there past life? I dont say i believe is but there is chance we can, genetic is bot fully explored territory . Title: Re: After death Post by: Prohodimec on December 22, 2016, 01:33:44 PM When we die, everything just goes black. Unless you believe in the after life then there might be something else after. I don't believe it though. Let say for moment that you and i believe in afterlife. What if one day when we die we find ourselves in afterlife and instead of going to heaven we go to hell, because we didnt believe in afterlife. What than when its too late? But what if we got it all wrong? What if God as we know it is fake, I mean not really the same. What if afterlife exist and it doesnt require from you to go to church... Maybe there is no God , but there is some kind of afterlife. Maybe reincarnation is real, and while you wait to be reborn you remain in "between-life" ? There I agree with you. Cant say anything, because i think the same way. But if there is chance that you can remember ? There are some stories that people are remembering there past life? I dont say i believe is but there is chance we can, genetic is bot fully explored territory . Maybe you right. We will definitely find out when we die XD . But i hope it wont be soon tho :D . Title: Re: After death Post by: layoutph on December 22, 2016, 01:42:11 PM Our life on earth is temporary only so It's wise to get ready for your next life. Your next life is for eternity... Eternity in hell or eternity with your creator.
Learn more about God to ensure your destiny. Posted From bitcointalk.org Android App Title: Re: After death Post by: machinek20 on December 22, 2016, 01:48:15 PM I think after we death we just vanished, i dont really believe in reincarnation, i dont really believe there are heavens or hell, when you die you will decomposed with soil, i dont believe there are afterlife
Title: Re: After death Post by: sergeyzol on December 22, 2016, 01:53:05 PM Our life on earth is temporary only so It's wise to get ready for your next life. Your next life is for eternity... Eternity in hell or eternity with your creator. Based on what your opinion? You've seen somebody who lives in hell or in heaven? How can you say that? I think you have problems with the head. It is good that you are not a Muslim. Muslims with such thoughts commit acts of terrorism.Learn more about God to ensure your destiny. Posted From bitcointalk.org Android App Title: Re: After death Post by: Slow death on December 22, 2016, 02:25:27 PM Our life on earth is temporary only so It's wise to get ready for your next life. Your next life is for eternity... Eternity in hell or eternity with your creator. Learn more about God to ensure your destiny. Posted From bitcointalk.org Android App https://andrewjbergman.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/death-violent.jpg?w=386&h=299 Based on what your opinion? You've seen somebody who lives in hell or in heaven? How can you say that? They just believe Title: Re: After death Post by: electronicash on December 22, 2016, 03:10:34 PM when a person die, its all just darkness and nothing else.
that is its reasonable write your last willing testament like feeding your dead carcass to the hungry crocs of conggo. this way you won't end up like useless still even after death. Title: Re: After death Post by: Oppolee on December 22, 2016, 03:56:44 PM Our life on earth is temporary only so It's wise to get ready for your next life. Your next life is for eternity... Eternity in hell or eternity with your creator. Learn more about God to ensure your destiny. Posted From bitcointalk.org Android App You say "eternity with your creator" , well my creator is my biological father... it have sens if my father die first. But what happens if i die first, does that mean that i will spend eternity alone, or just until he comes ? 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: Indijanos on December 22, 2016, 05:04:40 PM when a person die, its all just darkness and nothing else. that is its reasonable write your last willing testament like feeding your dead carcass to the hungry crocs of conggo. this way you won't end up like useless still even after death. But how can you know? :p That's maybe the most reasonable and logical thing to say, just like before you were born, there was nothing so what if that nothingness after you die leads to the nothingness before you were born? :P Title: Re: After death Post by: Indijanos on December 22, 2016, 05:07:49 PM Our life on earth is temporary only so It's wise to get ready for your next life. Your next life is for eternity... Eternity in hell or eternity with your creator. Learn more about God to ensure your destiny. Posted From bitcointalk.org Android App My destiny is to become a shaman king! Also, what creator, what hell? There are hundreds of creators and hells... unleast be a little more specific. :D And as much as I can read, OP asked not to involve the main religion theories here... Title: Re: After death Post by: Hiren74 on December 22, 2016, 05:08:36 PM Only got one life just try to enjoy it !
Title: Re: After death Post by: Frank Alister on December 22, 2016, 05:21:00 PM I think none really can answer this question. I believe that your behavior in this life really matters after death. And I think it's aimlessly to think what will happen after death. We have to face bigger problems than that, in real life, now. I never say that I didn't thought about, ''what will happen after death'' scenario, but I think that the life I live now it's more important.
Title: Re: After death Post by: Daniel91 on December 22, 2016, 05:24:59 PM Only got one life just try to enjoy it ! Yes, we have only one, eternal life on Heaven :) How we will live thus eternal life in spiritual world depends on our life on the earth. As we prepare in mother's womb for the life on the earth (our physical body) we also have to prepare on the earth for our life in the spiritual world (our spiritual body). The best way for it is by practicing love, compassion, life for the sake of others etc. Title: Re: After death Post by: Kvazimoda on December 22, 2016, 06:13:39 PM Only got one life just try to enjoy it ! Yes, we have only one, eternal life on Heaven :) How we will live thus eternal life in spiritual world depends on our life on the earth. As we prepare in mother's womb for the life on the earth (our physical body) we also have to prepare on the earth for our life in the spiritual world (our spiritual body). The best way for it is by practicing love, compassion, life for the sake of others etc. Title: Re: After death Post by: Drowzy on December 22, 2016, 08:40:55 PM There is no life after death. Life is now and what you do with it is your choice. After this life is over its the recycling of carcass that happens next. Nothing more..
Religion was made by rich fuckers because they want to keep us poor fuckers in line. That's it. Title: Re: After death Post by: daiyuba1971 on December 22, 2016, 08:50:33 PM There is no life after death. Life is now and what you do with it is your choice. After this life is over its the recycling of carcass that happens next. Nothing more.. Life after death is a fairy tale which allows the religious leaders are very cheap to buy slaves. People are willing to pay money for what they promise to get to the mythical heaven. Agree religion is probably the oldest and most effective Scam on a global scale.Religion was made by rich fuckers because they want to keep us poor fuckers in line. That's it. Title: Re: After death Post by: Tyrantt on December 23, 2016, 12:02:31 AM There is no life after death. Life is now and what you do with it is your choice. After this life is over its the recycling of carcass that happens next. Nothing more.. Life after death is a fairy tale which allows the religious leaders are very cheap to buy slaves. People are willing to pay money for what they promise to get to the mythical heaven. Agree religion is probably the oldest and most effective Scam on a global scale.Religion was made by rich fuckers because they want to keep us poor fuckers in line. That's it. That's what I find most ridiculous in today's time... People are willing to walk the strait line in life just because of something that has been promised after their death and they completely forget about this life, one life that they only have. Title: Re: After death Post by: Tyrantt on December 23, 2016, 12:04:06 AM I'd like to ask devout christians and muslims to hold themselves from posting therir propaganda here, I've clearly asked that I don't want those religious viewings on this topic (I was refering to christianity and islam since we all know what they propose). I've asked for your personal idea on what MIGHT be, all i wanted was some nice new ideas on the whole after you die time :/ Thank youuu
Title: Re: After death Post by: Gasturcas on December 23, 2016, 07:06:29 PM Our life on earth is temporary only so It's wise to get ready for your next life. Your next life is for eternity... Eternity in hell or eternity with your creator. Learn more about God to ensure your destiny. Posted From bitcointalk.org Android App That is right. Life is temporary and we must live life to the fullest. If the time comes and our time comes to an end. I believe that after death, God will judge as on what we did when we are still living. If we did a good job when we are still alive, Heaven's gate will open for us. However, If we didn't pass the standards of God, gates of hell welcomes us. I hope that the 10 Commandments based from the Bible will be the best basis while we are still alive(for us Christians). Title: Re: After death Post by: BitcoinPicasso on December 23, 2016, 07:20:35 PM Our life on earth is temporary only so It's wise to get ready for your next life. Your next life is for eternity... Eternity in hell or eternity with your creator. Learn more about God to ensure your destiny. Posted From bitcointalk.org Android App That's just blind belief. There is no evidence of hell or god so perhaps this was taught to keep you obedient. Don't do bad thing or you'll burn for eternity type of thing. A god wouldn't burn a soul for eternity. If you think that then you don't know god very well do you? Think about it this way. If your child did something bad like push their little sister down the stairs because she was in their stroller ... ;D Would you burn him for eternity? So that you can hear her screams daddy daddy.. I think not. So if god is our creator then why in the world would a father burn his own children? That's the stupidest thing I ever heard and there is no way a creator god would do that to his creations. But you wouldn't know any better since you just believe what your told and repeat it to others. No thought is put into your belief and that's why you'll never make it to your creator. He gave us brains for critical thinking and your not using it, you just believe automatically what your told. For all you know the people that taught you this are Satan worshipers. How would you know you just believe things? Title: Re: After death Post by: ovvidiy on December 23, 2016, 07:21:46 PM Our life on earth is temporary only so It's wise to get ready for your next life. Your next life is for eternity... Eternity in hell or eternity with your creator. Learn more about God to ensure your destiny. Posted From bitcointalk.org Android App That is right. Life is temporary and we must live life to the fullest. If the time comes and our time comes to an end. I believe that after death, God will judge as on what we did when we are still living. If we did a good job when we are still alive, Heaven's gate will open for us. However, If we didn't pass the standards of God, gates of hell welcomes us. I hope that the 10 Commandments based from the Bible will be the best basis while we are still alive(for us Christians). Title: Re: After death Post by: gabmen on December 24, 2016, 11:58:13 AM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. I've thought about this quite a lot also dude. I've read a lot of articles about people coming back from death and talking about a tunnel with a light at the end or sometimes getting their lives played back to them like a movie. We won't really know for sure until our time comes. Though i think what comes after is just darkness and we basically would just cease to exist. I know it's a pretty sad way to look at it but that's how i see it. I don't think there's life after death. Though i really hope there is, where we'll see all our departed loved ones and have a grand reunion or the likes Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on December 24, 2016, 02:33:59 PM Christians have great assurance that God will hold them alive after their death in this life. I can't tell you how many times God has intervened for me in this life, both in small ways and large, and has saved me from all kinds of problems and troubles. My assurance that God will save me from death to a life in the hereafter is strengthened by this.
8) Title: Re: After death Post by: Leprikon on December 24, 2016, 02:40:33 PM Christians have great assurance that God will hold them alive after their death in this life. I can't tell you how many times God has intervened for me in this life, both in small ways and large, and has saved me from all kinds of problems and troubles. My assurance that God will save me from death to a life in the hereafter is strengthened by this. What the afterlife promises only Christianity? It seems to me that in General, all religions use this tale to deceive his supporters. These tales are based on the exploitation of self-preservation instinct of man.8) Title: Re: After death Post by: Sithara007 on December 24, 2016, 02:45:07 PM Christians have great assurance that God will hold them alive after their death in this life. I can't tell you how many times God has intervened for me in this life, both in small ways and large, and has saved me from all kinds of problems and troubles. My assurance that God will save me from death to a life in the hereafter is strengthened by this. 8) How can you remain alive after your death? It is just a myth, and science has rubbished this particular myth. I am glad that religion had a positive influence on your life. But even then, I am not ready to believe in all those myths, which lacks logic. Title: Re: After death Post by: Aikonio on December 24, 2016, 02:54:04 PM Christians have great assurance that God will hold them alive after their death in this life. I can't tell you how many times God has intervened for me in this life, both in small ways and large, and has saved me from all kinds of problems and troubles. My assurance that God will save me from death to a life in the hereafter is strengthened by this. 8) How can you remain alive after your death? It is just a myth, and science has rubbished this particular myth. I am glad that religion had a positive influence on your life. But even then, I am not ready to believe in all those myths, which lacks logic. Title: Re: After death Post by: foladgoad on December 25, 2016, 04:07:54 AM I believe in life after death.
Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on December 25, 2016, 04:22:18 AM Christians have great assurance that God will hold them alive after their death in this life. I can't tell you how many times God has intervened for me in this life, both in small ways and large, and has saved me from all kinds of problems and troubles. My assurance that God will save me from death to a life in the hereafter is strengthened by this. 8) How can you remain alive after your death? It is just a myth, and science has rubbished this particular myth. I am glad that religion had a positive influence on your life. But even then, I am not ready to believe in all those myths, which lacks logic. I am surprised that people believe things that scientists say, that there is no God, and that life after death is not real. They have no proof, yet they say it anyway. And people believe them, without proof. Oh, well. People have false religions and cults all over the place. Believing the fables of science is just another one. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: STFU! on December 25, 2016, 04:52:08 AM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. There is one things i know. we can't run/hide from the Death. about lifes after death? there is no evidence, or any logic can describe that. because it is not something we can see. If you had own faith it will becomes just likes you believe.again who know?..will be a mistery until it comes. Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on December 25, 2016, 05:04:32 AM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. There is one things i know. we can run/hide from the Death. about lifes after death? there is no evidence, or any logic can describe that. because it is not something we can see. If you had own faith it will becomes just likes you believe.again who know?..will be a mistery until it comes. There is only one reason that we know life can exist at all. There is ONLY ONE REASON. That reason is, life is here. We don't know where life came from. We only guess about how it can exist. We simply don't know why and how life can be here. Anybody who thinks that there will NOT be a life after death, really does not know it. We don't know why or how this life is here, and we won't know until after death what the future life will be like. We need to listen to God. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: anavuajna on December 25, 2016, 05:31:39 PM I believe that my soul has repeatedly incarnated on this earth. Sometimes I think of something that was not me. and sometimes I dream strange dreams, probably because of my past lives
Title: Re: After death Post by: electronicash on December 25, 2016, 06:59:58 PM I believe that my soul has repeatedly incarnated on this earth. Sometimes I think of something that was not me. and sometimes I dream strange dreams, probably because of my past lives no one has ever proved this had been happening all along. i can't remember what i am before this life regardless of how strange the dreams i have every day. one thing is for sure we all die and we know nothing when we're dead. we don't even know when we die. the moment we are about to die we don;t think about anything else but to gasp for air or maybe struggling for help. Title: Re: After death Post by: Tyrantt on December 25, 2016, 11:59:24 PM I believe that my soul has repeatedly incarnated on this earth. Sometimes I think of something that was not me. and sometimes I dream strange dreams, probably because of my past lives no one has ever proved this had been happening all along. i can't remember what i am before this life regardless of how strange the dreams i have every day. one thing is for sure we all die and we know nothing when we're dead. we don't even know when we die. the moment we are about to die we don;t think about anything else but to gasp for air or maybe struggling for help. no one has ever proven anything after death besides that we die and decompose... knowing when you're about to die depends on the situation :D Title: Re: After death Post by: ustradebitcoin on December 26, 2016, 12:00:30 AM I THINK THERE IS NO LIFE AFTER DEATH
Title: Re: After death Post by: iluvbitcoins on December 26, 2016, 12:18:07 AM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. There is one things i know. we can run/hide from the Death. about lifes after death? there is no evidence, or any logic can describe that. because it is not something we can see. If you had own faith it will becomes just likes you believe.again who know?..will be a mistery until it comes. There is only one reason that we know life can exist at all. There is ONLY ONE REASON. That reason is, life is here. We don't know where life came from. We only guess about how it can exist. We simply don't know why and how life can be here. Anybody who thinks that there will NOT be a life after death, really does not know it. We don't know why or how this life is here, and we won't know until after death what the future life will be like. We need to listen to God. 8) How do we listen to an imaginary creature? 8) And actually we do know where life came from, it came from our parents, which got it from their parents etc. We can trace back life all the way to the earths formation The problem is our technology is not advanced enough to figure out how the big bang happened And what existed beyond it We only know a fraction of the universe and its history And throughout of known history, man has always described things he does not understand to - God and other imaginary creatures (fairies, ghosts etc.) What do know is that we know very little And describing our missing knowledge with a - God is even more absurd For me the only acceptable idea of a "God" is a different name for "Alien" Title: Re: After death Post by: Hiren74 on December 26, 2016, 12:51:31 AM I believe in life after death however its just not on a level anyone could understand
Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on December 26, 2016, 01:33:01 AM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. There is one things i know. we can run/hide from the Death. about lifes after death? there is no evidence, or any logic can describe that. because it is not something we can see. If you had own faith it will becomes just likes you believe.again who know?..will be a mistery until it comes. There is only one reason that we know life can exist at all. There is ONLY ONE REASON. That reason is, life is here. We don't know where life came from. We only guess about how it can exist. We simply don't know why and how life can be here. Anybody who thinks that there will NOT be a life after death, really does not know it. We don't know why or how this life is here, and we won't know until after death what the future life will be like. We need to listen to God. 8) How do we listen to an imaginary creature? 8) And actually we do know where life came from, it came from our parents, which got it from their parents etc. We can trace back life all the way to the earths formation The problem is our technology is not advanced enough to figure out how the big bang happened And what existed beyond it We only know a fraction of the universe and its history And throughout of known history, man has always described things he does not understand to - God and other imaginary creatures (fairies, ghosts etc.) What do know is that we know very little And describing our missing knowledge with a - God is even more absurd For me the only acceptable idea of a "God" is a different name for "Alien" When you listen to someone reading the Bible, you are listening to God. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on December 26, 2016, 07:59:49 AM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. There is one things i know. we can run/hide from the Death. about lifes after death? there is no evidence, or any logic can describe that. because it is not something we can see. If you had own faith it will becomes just likes you believe.again who know?..will be a mistery until it comes. There is only one reason that we know life can exist at all. There is ONLY ONE REASON. That reason is, life is here. We don't know where life came from. We only guess about how it can exist. We simply don't know why and how life can be here. Anybody who thinks that there will NOT be a life after death, really does not know it. We don't know why or how this life is here, and we won't know until after death what the future life will be like. We need to listen to God. 8) How do we listen to an imaginary creature? 8) And actually we do know where life came from, it came from our parents, which got it from their parents etc. We can trace back life all the way to the earths formation The problem is our technology is not advanced enough to figure out how the big bang happened And what existed beyond it We only know a fraction of the universe and its history And throughout of known history, man has always described things he does not understand to - God and other imaginary creatures (fairies, ghosts etc.) What do know is that we know very little And describing our missing knowledge with a - God is even more absurd For me the only acceptable idea of a "God" is a different name for "Alien" When you listen to someone reading the Bible, you are listening to God. 8) No, you are listening to yourself reading a book. If you hear voices, you are not well. And they say that deaf people aren't well... in their ears, if nothing else. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: stats on December 26, 2016, 09:53:00 AM I'd like to ask devout christians and muslims to hold themselves from posting therir propaganda here, I've clearly asked that I don't want those religious viewings on this topic (I was refering to christianity and islam since we all know what they propose). I've asked for your personal idea on what MIGHT be, all i wanted was some nice new ideas on the whole after you die time :/ Thank youuu @ BADecker Please see the request above. You seem to ignore other people's requests to continue preaching your lies and propaganda. A little common courtesy wouldn't hurt. Title: Re: After death Post by: Tyrantt on December 27, 2016, 01:11:16 AM I'd like to ask devout christians and muslims to hold themselves from posting therir propaganda here, I've clearly asked that I don't want those religious viewings on this topic (I was refering to christianity and islam since we all know what they propose). I've asked for your personal idea on what MIGHT be, all i wanted was some nice new ideas on the whole after you die time :/ Thank youuu @ BADecker Please see the request above. You seem to ignore other people's requests to continue preaching your lies and propaganda. A little common courtesy wouldn't hurt. haha unleast someone noticed the post.. but no need to point it out, they'll still ignore it. :D Title: Re: After death Post by: Tyrantt on December 27, 2016, 01:32:56 AM I believe in life after death however its just not on a level anyone could understand Well can you maybe unleast try to explain? I've asked for more unknown or interesting ideas thought on that subject. :) Title: Re: After death Post by: Hannu on December 27, 2016, 02:14:06 AM Hey,
I dont wanna die young. Maybe +80 yr Own summerhouse in example Lapland or Saimaa. I am ready to work two jobs for it (Example home and working place)+ mining rig :-X Title: Re: After death Post by: Morbid on December 27, 2016, 02:17:30 AM only brain identity & our physical selves stop existing.. higher consciousness goes on. if you interested read book by michael newton journey of souls.
Title: Re: After death Post by: stats on December 27, 2016, 02:40:38 AM I'd like to ask devout christians and muslims to hold themselves from posting therir propaganda here, I've clearly asked that I don't want those religious viewings on this topic (I was refering to christianity and islam since we all know what they propose). I've asked for your personal idea on what MIGHT be, all i wanted was some nice new ideas on the whole after you die time :/ Thank youuu @ BADecker Please see the request above. You seem to ignore other people's requests to continue preaching your lies and propaganda. A little common courtesy wouldn't hurt. haha unleast someone noticed the post.. but no need to point it out, they'll still ignore it. :D Unfortunately you will be proved right. People like BADecker only have a single mindset. Title: Re: After death Post by: Hannu on December 27, 2016, 03:10:46 AM only brain identity & our physical selves stop existing.. higher consciousness goes on. if you interested read book by michael newton journey of souls. Must read that book, NASA has found some things about god in space. Title: Re: After death Post by: btvlGainer on January 04, 2017, 08:52:17 PM Hey, No one knows when will die and that's good. It probably would be the worst torture to know what day you will die. I wish you to your dreams come true. I hope that I die after 80 years. The main thing is not to hurt. There are diseases that it is better to die.I dont wanna die young. Maybe +80 yr Own summerhouse in example Lapland or Saimaa. I am ready to work two jobs for it (Example home and working place)+ mining rig :-X Title: Re: After death Post by: Slow death on January 04, 2017, 09:39:35 PM Hey, I dont wanna die young. Maybe +80 yr Own summerhouse in example Lapland or Saimaa. I am ready to work two jobs for it (Example home and working place)+ mining rig :-X Oh when you come in 70 to 80 years your body is already old and you will be bothering other people to help you, are you sure you want to "bother other people to help you?" There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. There is one things i know. we can run/hide from the Death. about lifes after death? there is no evidence, or any logic can describe that. because it is not something we can see. If you had own faith it will becomes just likes you believe.again who know?..will be a mistery until it comes. There is only one reason that we know life can exist at all. There is ONLY ONE REASON. That reason is, life is here. We don't know where life came from. We only guess about how it can exist. We simply don't know why and how life can be here. Anybody who thinks that there will NOT be a life after death, really does not know it. We don't know why or how this life is here, and we won't know until after death what the future life will be like. We need to listen to God. 8) How do we listen to an imaginary creature? 8) And actually we do know where life came from, it came from our parents, which got it from their parents etc. We can trace back life all the way to the earths formation The problem is our technology is not advanced enough to figure out how the big bang happened And what existed beyond it We only know a fraction of the universe and its history And throughout of known history, man has always described things he does not understand to - God and other imaginary creatures (fairies, ghosts etc.) What do know is that we know very little And describing our missing knowledge with a - God is even more absurd For me the only acceptable idea of a "God" is a different name for "Alien" When you listen to someone reading the Bible, you are listening to God. 8) Who guarantees that the scriptures of the bible are true, who guarantees that no man has altered the scriptures of the bible? Why is there no prophet to guide us on the right path? Title: Re: After death Post by: JerryWinski on January 04, 2017, 09:50:36 PM only brain identity & our physical selves stop existing.. higher consciousness goes on. if you interested read book by michael newton journey of souls. Books?! Books are for losers. We have youtube! https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=michael+newton+journey+of+souls (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=michael+newton+journey+of+souls) I will check some of that out. As of now I'm pretty sure once your dead your dead. But maybe this guy can convince me.. doubtful. Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on January 04, 2017, 10:10:42 PM Hey, I dont wanna die young. Maybe +80 yr Own summerhouse in example Lapland or Saimaa. I am ready to work two jobs for it (Example home and working place)+ mining rig :-X Oh when you come in 70 to 80 years your body is already old and you will be bothering other people to help you, are you sure you want to "bother other people to help you?" There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. There is one things i know. we can run/hide from the Death. about lifes after death? there is no evidence, or any logic can describe that. because it is not something we can see. If you had own faith it will becomes just likes you believe.again who know?..will be a mistery until it comes. There is only one reason that we know life can exist at all. There is ONLY ONE REASON. That reason is, life is here. We don't know where life came from. We only guess about how it can exist. We simply don't know why and how life can be here. Anybody who thinks that there will NOT be a life after death, really does not know it. We don't know why or how this life is here, and we won't know until after death what the future life will be like. We need to listen to God. 8) How do we listen to an imaginary creature? 8) And actually we do know where life came from, it came from our parents, which got it from their parents etc. We can trace back life all the way to the earths formation The problem is our technology is not advanced enough to figure out how the big bang happened And what existed beyond it We only know a fraction of the universe and its history And throughout of known history, man has always described things he does not understand to - God and other imaginary creatures (fairies, ghosts etc.) What do know is that we know very little And describing our missing knowledge with a - God is even more absurd For me the only acceptable idea of a "God" is a different name for "Alien" When you listen to someone reading the Bible, you are listening to God. 8) Who guarantees that the scriptures of the bible are true, who guarantees that no man has altered the scriptures of the bible? Why is there no prophet to guide us on the right path? I'm a little bit of a prophet. Few atheists even listen to what I say. Why would they listen to any other prophet? 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: inarakun on January 04, 2017, 10:33:53 PM I believe that after you die, you're just reborn in another place. Either that, or we're maybe sent to another timeline. I dunno.
Title: Re: After death Post by: iluvbitcoins on January 04, 2017, 10:38:41 PM I believe that after you die, you're just reborn in another place. Either that, or we're maybe sent to another timeline. I dunno. But how do you define "you", what are "you"? If we lose all our memories we have gained throughout our lifetime and the knowledge of "us", how are exactly "we" reborn? That is a new person, a new animal That is not me then Please prove me wrong, I like the idea of reincarnation :D Title: Re: After death Post by: Morbid on January 04, 2017, 11:23:13 PM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnXxC-nVsJY
Title: Re: After death Post by: Tyrantt on January 05, 2017, 03:58:44 AM I believe that after you die, you're just reborn in another place. Either that, or we're maybe sent to another timeline. I dunno. But how do you define "you", what are "you"? If we lose all our memories we have gained throughout our lifetime and the knowledge of "us", how are exactly "we" reborn? That is a new person, a new animal That is not me then Please prove me wrong, I like the idea of reincarnation :D We're all in a matrix, when you die you can continue with the same character from the beginning, therfore deja vu but also you can go and create a new character and that's why we had cases where people remembered their past lives. :D Title: Re: After death Post by: Tyrantt on January 05, 2017, 04:03:15 AM Hey, I dont wanna die young. Maybe +80 yr Own summerhouse in example Lapland or Saimaa. I am ready to work two jobs for it (Example home and working place)+ mining rig :-X Oh when you come in 70 to 80 years your body is already old and you will be bothering other people to help you, are you sure you want to "bother other people to help you?" There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. There is one things i know. we can run/hide from the Death. about lifes after death? there is no evidence, or any logic can describe that. because it is not something we can see. If you had own faith it will becomes just likes you believe.again who know?..will be a mistery until it comes. There is only one reason that we know life can exist at all. There is ONLY ONE REASON. That reason is, life is here. We don't know where life came from. We only guess about how it can exist. We simply don't know why and how life can be here. Anybody who thinks that there will NOT be a life after death, really does not know it. We don't know why or how this life is here, and we won't know until after death what the future life will be like. We need to listen to God. 8) How do we listen to an imaginary creature? 8) And actually we do know where life came from, it came from our parents, which got it from their parents etc. We can trace back life all the way to the earths formation The problem is our technology is not advanced enough to figure out how the big bang happened And what existed beyond it We only know a fraction of the universe and its history And throughout of known history, man has always described things he does not understand to - God and other imaginary creatures (fairies, ghosts etc.) What do know is that we know very little And describing our missing knowledge with a - God is even more absurd For me the only acceptable idea of a "God" is a different name for "Alien" When you listen to someone reading the Bible, you are listening to God. 8) Who guarantees that the scriptures of the bible are true, who guarantees that no man has altered the scriptures of the bible? Why is there no prophet to guide us on the right path? I'm a little bit of a prophet. Few atheists even listen to what I say. Why would they listen to any other prophet? 8) ahahah you had me at "I'm a little bit of a prophet." ;D ;D ;D btw aren't there some missing bible books? Where are those? The bible must have been altered even by some means and intentions or by accident in translation. Also, as Slow Death said, who guarantees that those pages are true? No one? Why? Tho I already know the answer. Title: Re: After death Post by: crygirl-1 on January 05, 2017, 04:08:55 AM Whether there is a soul after death, not only in Buddhism, in fact, science does not exclude. Nobel prize winner John AIKE jazz, said: people in the embryo or very young, a "self" consciousness into the brain, all functions manipulate brain, brain like computer control. It still exists after the death of the brain, and still has the form of life activity, and can be immortal.
Title: Re: After death Post by: Tyrantt on January 05, 2017, 04:19:51 AM Whether there is a soul after death, not only in Buddhism, in fact, science does not exclude. Nobel prize winner John AIKE jazz, said: people in the embryo or very young, a "self" consciousness into the brain, all functions manipulate brain, brain like computer control. It still exists after the death of the brain, and still has the form of life activity, and can be immortal. Brain activities remain after the death of a brain? or did I misunderstood something? Because this isn't very clear to me... Title: Re: After death Post by: Sundark on January 05, 2017, 05:26:18 AM Unless someone will show us definitive proof of what is happening after you die. Until that I refuse to accept that there is anything waiting for us there in the underworld.
It is better to believe that this life is the only life you will ever have and live the life to the fullest. Title: Re: After death Post by: dippididodaday on January 05, 2017, 06:07:58 AM Just as there is a beginning, a starting line, a birth, likewise there is also an end, a finish line. Death is the finish line. Title: Re: After death Post by: electronicash on January 05, 2017, 07:11:37 AM Whether there is a soul after death, not only in Buddhism, in fact, science does not exclude. Nobel prize winner John AIKE jazz, said: people in the embryo or very young, a "self" consciousness into the brain, all functions manipulate brain, brain like computer control. It still exists after the death of the brain, and still has the form of life activity, and can be immortal. Brain activities remain after the death of a brain? or did I misunderstood something? Because this isn't very clear to me... when one is dead, all his parts are also dead. in fact brain can die the first so they say "you're brain dead" ;D when you die, every thing darkness and nothing else. those person who committed suicide knows this well because they find it the solution to end all his problem is to sleep eternally. Title: Re: After death Post by: gredisgold88 on January 05, 2017, 08:07:03 AM only the foolish man admitted that he had tried to commit suicide, and the method emperism will explain everything, the prophet Mohammed in the teachings of Islam to travel to heaven and hell called in Islam traveling israj Miraj, the Prophet Mohammed with the empirical method explained everything, so also with Gautama Buddha he did emperisme method for communicating the level to 7 in reincarnation, while the method of emperism you simply absurd to think
Title: Re: After death Post by: btvlGainer on January 05, 2017, 10:03:26 AM only the foolish man admitted that he had tried to commit suicide, and the method emperism will explain everything, the prophet Mohammed in the teachings of Islam to travel to heaven and hell called in Islam traveling israj Miraj, the Prophet Mohammed with the empirical method explained everything, so also with Gautama Buddha he did emperisme method for communicating the level to 7 in reincarnation, while the method of emperism you simply absurd to think You believe in fairy tales about reincarnation? This is nonsense! The less a person is able to think, the more he believes in such nonsense. Terrorists are stupid people and they believe in the existence of heaven and hell. Here the religious leaders have it and use it.Title: Re: After death Post by: gredisgold88 on January 05, 2017, 11:46:47 AM only the foolish man admitted that he had tried to commit suicide, and the method emperism will explain everything, the prophet Mohammed in the teachings of Islam to travel to heaven and hell called in Islam traveling israj Miraj, the Prophet Mohammed with the empirical method explained everything, so also with Gautama Buddha he did emperisme method for communicating the level to 7 in reincarnation, while the method of emperism you simply absurd to think You believe in fairy tales about reincarnation? This is nonsense! The less a person is able to think, the more he believes in such nonsense. Terrorists are stupid people and they believe in the existence of heaven and hell. Here the religious leaders have it and use it.Title: Re: After death Post by: DimidoffVany on January 05, 2017, 12:16:16 PM only the foolish man admitted that he had tried to commit suicide, and the method emperism will explain everything, the prophet Mohammed in the teachings of Islam to travel to heaven and hell called in Islam traveling israj Miraj, the Prophet Mohammed with the empirical method explained everything, so also with Gautama Buddha he did emperisme method for communicating the level to 7 in reincarnation, while the method of emperism you simply absurd to think You believe in fairy tales about reincarnation? This is nonsense! The less a person is able to think, the more he believes in such nonsense. Terrorists are stupid people and they believe in the existence of heaven and hell. Here the religious leaders have it and use it.Dont say they are stupid because you are wrong friend. Just because someone beleve different from you it doesnt make them stupid. Fanatic behavior is what is wrong, and that have nothing to do with intelligence. Some of them believe in after life yes , but maybe some dont... who knows. Title: Re: After death Post by: iluvbitcoins on January 05, 2017, 12:27:38 PM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnXxC-nVsJY How can we believe this is true just by their word? Title: Re: After death Post by: Xester on January 05, 2017, 12:36:01 PM When we die we turn into nothing. Reincarnation is nothing but a myth. When we die we lost our body and brain functions. Our memories and consciousness will be turn to nothing also since it is present in the brain. So if you ever decided to commit suicide then you are reducing yourself to the level of shit. Dying is the end of life and nothing more. This is my idea outside of Christian realm.
But I do believe that there is life after death it gives me hope that someday I will be resurrected again and join my brothers and sisters in the kingdom of our creator. Title: Re: After death Post by: iluvbitcoins on January 05, 2017, 12:44:21 PM When we die we turn into nothing. Reincarnation is nothing but a myth. When we die we lost our body and brain functions. Our memories and consciousness will be turn to nothing also since it is present in the brain. So if you ever decided to commit suicide then you are reducing yourself to the level of shit. Dying is the end of life and nothing more. This is my idea outside of Christian realm. But I do believe that there is life after death it gives me hope that someday I will be resurrected again and join my brothers and sisters in the kingdom of our creator. I have spent most of todays morning (before sleeping) reading about reincarnation Most noteable research I found was by Ian Stevenson who researched 2500 children who claimed to have memories from their past lives https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/bering-in-mind/ian-stevensone28099s-case-for-the-afterlife-are-we-e28098skepticse28099-really-just-cynics/ It's... Hmm It makes me wonder, but he's only one guy I'd have to see a few more researchers in order to believe something to be valid But it does make me wonder Title: Re: After death Post by: kodes88 on January 05, 2017, 03:22:08 PM Just as there is a beginning, a starting line, a birth, likewise there is also an end, a finish line. Death is the finish line. If this kind of thinking is embedded in the brains of all people, each person will commit suicide when he got a very big problem. Because if there was nothing after death, they would choose to die rather than face a big problem. But unfortunately, because there is a heaven and hell after death, suicide is a bad thing, and certainty for people who commit suicide is that he will go to hell, tormented for eternity. Title: Re: After death Post by: bitcoinboy12 on January 05, 2017, 04:28:06 PM Just as there is a beginning, a starting line, a birth, likewise there is also an end, a finish line. Death is the finish line. If this kind of thinking is embedded in the brains of all people, each person will commit suicide when he got a very big problem. Because if there was nothing after death, they would choose to die rather than face a big problem. But unfortunately, because there is a heaven and hell after death, suicide is a bad thing, and certainty for people who commit suicide is that he will go to hell, tormented for eternity. From your comment, one thing immediately came to mind. It's actually a twisted Japanese film - Suicide Club. That is actually the very context of the film - since we are all going to die anyway, why don't we just kill ourselves spare us all from the hurt. Title: Re: After death Post by: gabmen on January 05, 2017, 04:46:48 PM Just as there is a beginning, a starting line, a birth, likewise there is also an end, a finish line. Death is the finish line. If this kind of thinking is embedded in the brains of all people, each person will commit suicide when he got a very big problem. Because if there was nothing after death, they would choose to die rather than face a big problem. But unfortunately, because there is a heaven and hell after death, suicide is a bad thing, and certainty for people who commit suicide is that he will go to hell, tormented for eternity. Title: Re: After death Post by: dippididodaday on January 05, 2017, 05:19:19 PM Just as there is a beginning, a starting line, a birth, likewise there is also an end, a finish line. Death is the finish line. If this kind of thinking is embedded in the brains of all people, each person will commit suicide when he got a very big problem. Because if there was nothing after death, they would choose to die rather than face a big problem. But unfortunately, because there is a heaven and hell after death, suicide is a bad thing, and certainty for people who commit suicide is that he will go to hell, tormented for eternity. If someone thinks there is nothing after death and he faces a big problem, would he not try and try again to solve the problem, and thus strive to stay alive, because he knows he will not get another chance to do so once he lays his head to rest for the last time? Title: Re: After death Post by: iluvbitcoins on January 05, 2017, 06:36:59 PM When we die we turn into nothing. Reincarnation is nothing but a myth. When we die we lost our body and brain functions. Our memories and consciousness will be turn to nothing also since it is present in the brain. So if you ever decided to commit suicide then you are reducing yourself to the level of shit. Dying is the end of life and nothing more. This is my idea outside of Christian realm. But I do believe that there is life after death it gives me hope that someday I will be resurrected again and join my brothers and sisters in the kingdom of our creator. I have spent most of todays morning (before sleeping) reading about reincarnation Most noteable research I found was by Ian Stevenson who researched 2500 children who claimed to have memories from their past lives https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/bering-in-mind/ian-stevensone28099s-case-for-the-afterlife-are-we-e28098skepticse28099-really-just-cynics/ It's... Hmm It makes me wonder, but he's only one guy I'd have to see a few more researchers in order to believe something to be valid But it does make me wonder Genes are not explored to there full potential, so there are more than enough things we dont know. Maybe that is not reincarnation, maybe its some part memories of your ancestors... There are also children here that reported about their previous lives which are not genetically tied to them at all Title: Re: After death Post by: Mersedes on January 05, 2017, 07:31:07 PM When we die we turn into nothing. Reincarnation is nothing but a myth. When we die we lost our body and brain functions. Our memories and consciousness will be turn to nothing also since it is present in the brain. So if you ever decided to commit suicide then you are reducing yourself to the level of shit. Dying is the end of life and nothing more. This is my idea outside of Christian realm. But I do believe that there is life after death it gives me hope that someday I will be resurrected again and join my brothers and sisters in the kingdom of our creator. I have spent most of todays morning (before sleeping) reading about reincarnation Most noteable research I found was by Ian Stevenson who researched 2500 children who claimed to have memories from their past lives https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/bering-in-mind/ian-stevensone28099s-case-for-the-afterlife-are-we-e28098skepticse28099-really-just-cynics/ It's... Hmm It makes me wonder, but he's only one guy I'd have to see a few more researchers in order to believe something to be valid But it does make me wonder Genes are not explored to there full potential, so there are more than enough things we dont know. Maybe that is not reincarnation, maybe its some part memories of your ancestors... There are also children here that reported about their previous lives which are not genetically tied to them at all Title: Re: After death Post by: iluvbitcoins on January 05, 2017, 07:55:12 PM When we die we turn into nothing. Reincarnation is nothing but a myth. When we die we lost our body and brain functions. Our memories and consciousness will be turn to nothing also since it is present in the brain. So if you ever decided to commit suicide then you are reducing yourself to the level of shit. Dying is the end of life and nothing more. This is my idea outside of Christian realm. But I do believe that there is life after death it gives me hope that someday I will be resurrected again and join my brothers and sisters in the kingdom of our creator. I have spent most of todays morning (before sleeping) reading about reincarnation Most noteable research I found was by Ian Stevenson who researched 2500 children who claimed to have memories from their past lives https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/bering-in-mind/ian-stevensone28099s-case-for-the-afterlife-are-we-e28098skepticse28099-really-just-cynics/ It's... Hmm It makes me wonder, but he's only one guy I'd have to see a few more researchers in order to believe something to be valid But it does make me wonder Genes are not explored to there full potential, so there are more than enough things we dont know. Maybe that is not reincarnation, maybe its some part memories of your ancestors... There are also children here that reported about their previous lives which are not genetically tied to them at all And how do they describe their deaths, interactions with other people, names, drawings, events that happened in their past lives? Title: Re: After death Post by: Klima on January 05, 2017, 08:31:47 PM When we die we turn into nothing. Reincarnation is nothing but a myth. When we die we lost our body and brain functions. Our memories and consciousness will be turn to nothing also since it is present in the brain. So if you ever decided to commit suicide then you are reducing yourself to the level of shit. Dying is the end of life and nothing more. This is my idea outside of Christian realm. But I do believe that there is life after death it gives me hope that someday I will be resurrected again and join my brothers and sisters in the kingdom of our creator. I have spent most of todays morning (before sleeping) reading about reincarnation Most noteable research I found was by Ian Stevenson who researched 2500 children who claimed to have memories from their past lives https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/bering-in-mind/ian-stevensone28099s-case-for-the-afterlife-are-we-e28098skepticse28099-really-just-cynics/ It's... Hmm It makes me wonder, but he's only one guy I'd have to see a few more researchers in order to believe something to be valid But it does make me wonder Genes are not explored to there full potential, so there are more than enough things we dont know. Maybe that is not reincarnation, maybe its some part memories of your ancestors... There are also children here that reported about their previous lives which are not genetically tied to them at all And how do they describe their deaths, interactions with other people, names, drawings, events that happened in their past lives? Title: Re: After death Post by: iluvbitcoins on January 05, 2017, 09:28:53 PM I meant how does it match with actual results
Title: Re: After death Post by: ekaterina77 on January 05, 2017, 09:44:35 PM I meant how does it match with actual results Actual results proving that God is not and cannot be. I agree that all the visions it's all a game of imagination. People believe what they want to believe. They are wishful thinking.Title: Re: After death Post by: Morbid on January 05, 2017, 10:31:02 PM the big question is then:
is the brain's function being the source of consciousness or its a mere transmitter of consciousness which also gives us ability to create taking into account you have a functioning vessel. has anybody heard of 21 grams that people lose the moment they die? Title: Re: After death Post by: Buffer Overflow on January 05, 2017, 11:55:22 PM I'm a little bit of a prophet. 8) NO Stop, just stop. You're delusions are getting out of control. Title: Re: After death Post by: cellard on January 06, 2017, 12:07:12 AM the big question is then: That is interesting, how come it's 21 grams? just like 21 million bitcoins... there must be a connection. But seriously, there are really strange things that happen, like the DMT trip that happens as you die (apparently). I've read that the pinneal gland secretes DMT when you die. I want to try DMT myself to see what's all the fuzz about. I've heard Joe Rogan and Terrence Mckenna talking about DMT and its tempting, but I dont have any good sources.is the brain's function being the source of consciousness or its a mere transmitter of consciousness which also gives us ability to create taking into account you have a functioning vessel. has anybody heard of 21 grams that people lose the moment they die? Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on January 06, 2017, 12:43:03 AM I'm a little bit of a prophet. 8) NO Stop, just stop. You're delusions are getting out of control. Hi, Fluffer. According to the definition of prophet at Dictionary.com, at http://www.dictionary.com/browse/prophet?s=t, you can be a prophet, too. :D Title: Re: After death Post by: Tyrantt on January 06, 2017, 12:55:31 AM the big question is then: is the brain's function being the source of consciousness or its a mere transmitter of consciousness which also gives us ability to create taking into account you have a functioning vessel. has anybody heard of 21 grams that people lose the moment they die? Yes, but that may be a lose of breath, emptying of bowls and other air that got stuck in body... who knows but that is interesting tho. Title: Re: After death Post by: dippididodaday on January 06, 2017, 06:36:41 AM the big question is then: is the brain's function being the source of consciousness or its a mere transmitter of consciousness which also gives us ability to create taking into account you have a functioning vessel. has anybody heard of 21 grams that people lose the moment they die? Yes, but that may be a lose of breath, emptying of bowls and other air that got stuck in body... who knows but that is interesting tho. A good way to test this would be to replace all the deathbeds in a testing facility type hospital with bed-like electronic scales and monitor the patients one by one as they die. Measurements of weight, perspiration, gas emissions and excretions could be taken to verify all results. If results repeat with all patients and also in a couple different testing facility hospitals then there should be a strong case for this 21-gram consciousness hypothesis. Should be an interesting experiment. Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on January 06, 2017, 01:10:53 PM the big question is then: is the brain's function being the source of consciousness or its a mere transmitter of consciousness which also gives us ability to create taking into account you have a functioning vessel. has anybody heard of 21 grams that people lose the moment they die? Yes, but that may be a lose of breath, emptying of bowls and other air that got stuck in body... who knows but that is interesting tho. A good way to test this would be to replace all the deathbeds in a testing facility type hospital with bed-like electronic scales and monitor the patients one by one as they die. Measurements of weight, perspiration, gas emissions and excretions could be taken to verify all results. If results repeat with all patients and also in a couple different testing facility hospitals then there should be a strong case for this 21-gram consciousness hypothesis. Should be an interesting experiment. Good idea. I suppose you have read about the one time it was done? My guess is that doctors and hospitals would be opposed to doing this because it might prove that there is such a thing as a spirit, that actually has weight. The expense would be great, because the area where each patient was kept would have to be sealed, physically. Patients are people. So, it might be difficult sealing an area and yet allowing medication to enter as necessary to keep the patient alive. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: kryptqnick on January 06, 2017, 04:07:22 PM Nobody knows what happens next, obviously. We can only be quite sure that we won't have our body anymore. I think the mind will keep living, though. Maybe, it will be just our pure thoughts and thoughts of others. In this case there won't be any specific place we are in, because without a body there is no space for us. So just thought being nowhere. Or we can have phantom bodies and not even know we died. You know, I'm thinking of the problem of us being dead but not knowing that. What if our bodies are already not real and only the mind exists and we just don't remember how we died?
Title: Re: After death Post by: ovvidiy on January 06, 2017, 04:30:53 PM Nobody knows what happens next, obviously. We can only be quite sure that we won't have our body anymore. I think the mind will keep living, though. Maybe, it will be just our pure thoughts and thoughts of others. In this case there won't be any specific place we are in, because without a body there is no space for us. So just thought being nowhere. Or we can have phantom bodies and not even know we died. You know, I'm thinking of the problem of us being dead but not knowing that. What if our bodies are already not real and only the mind exists and we just don't remember how we died? If you die then your brain could anything you draw, but in others it wouldn't work. Once you communicate with other people means you are alive. I say to you, and we do not know. I am sure that you are alive, and after death there will be nothing.Title: Re: After death Post by: Aikonio on January 06, 2017, 05:32:03 PM When we die we turn into nothing. Reincarnation is nothing but a myth. When we die we lost our body and brain functions. Our memories and consciousness will be turn to nothing also since it is present in the brain. So if you ever decided to commit suicide then you are reducing yourself to the level of shit. Dying is the end of life and nothing more. This is my idea outside of Christian realm. But I do believe that there is life after death it gives me hope that someday I will be resurrected again and join my brothers and sisters in the kingdom of our creator. I have spent most of todays morning (before sleeping) reading about reincarnation Most noteable research I found was by Ian Stevenson who researched 2500 children who claimed to have memories from their past lives https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/bering-in-mind/ian-stevensone28099s-case-for-the-afterlife-are-we-e28098skepticse28099-really-just-cynics/ It's... Hmm It makes me wonder, but he's only one guy I'd have to see a few more researchers in order to believe something to be valid But it does make me wonder Genes are not explored to there full potential, so there are more than enough things we dont know. Maybe that is not reincarnation, maybe its some part memories of your ancestors... There are also children here that reported about their previous lives which are not genetically tied to them at all I thinkn you could be right abouth that. Hallucinations can sometime be real pain in the a.. , and im not sure how that affect yunger people. But that could explain somethings, because as you said, children dont know difference betveen real things and hallucinations... Title: Re: After death Post by: chachaa on January 06, 2017, 06:19:01 PM Similarly, when clinical death. Doctors fix heart failure, but the activity of the brain at this moment does not stop. Because oxygen starvation can result in hallucinations, but the person can still hear doctors. This explains the vision of the people. There is so much that poeple doesnt know about human body. Yes we have descovered a lot of it, but there are still findings everyday. Someday maybe they will pruve that god exist or that it doesnt, and same is for after life. Till that day come it all goes areund do "you" believe it or not. But sure it is interesting topic to speak of :D . Title: Re: After death Post by: VapeOil on January 06, 2017, 07:32:55 PM Nobody can tell you if there is life after death. We can speculate but the chances of there being a life after death are pretty slim to none. Sure if you choose to believe if fairy tales then maybe that gives you some comfort but the reality is no one knows for sure. I personally think that there is only one life and we are living it now. After we die its over and nothing happens after that. Our time has come and gone basically..
Title: Re: After death Post by: Mersedes on January 06, 2017, 10:00:53 PM Similarly, when clinical death. Doctors fix heart failure, but the activity of the brain at this moment does not stop. Because oxygen starvation can result in hallucinations, but the person can still hear doctors. This explains the vision of the people. There is so much that poeple doesnt know about human body. Yes we have descovered a lot of it, but there are still findings everyday. Someday maybe they will pruve that god exist or that it doesnt, and same is for after life. Till that day come it all goes areund do "you" believe it or not. But sure it is interesting topic to speak of :D . Yes you and him are correct when you say that some things can be explained with sciance. But sciance cant denie that God exist, so there are still chance that God exist. Because we dont know it doesnt mean its not true, and other way around. I my self believe in sciance and things i can see and get to pruve its truth, but things i dont know and cant prove.. they are exactly that unknown and unproven. Title: Re: After death Post by: varyspro on January 07, 2017, 12:47:44 PM I can reassure you. Even if there is a God in Paradise you will not get anyway. The 10 commandments do not abide by no one. It is not possible. Those who wrote them dream about a better world when everyone will comply with them. The Communists also wrote their dreams, but they are not real. Time change poeple, and people evolve. Me and friend of mine came to solution that every religion last abouth 3000 years. Probably im wrong, but if you look yunger generations there are more and more people that are Atheists or Agnostics. Which mean that people are geting more and more logical and try to find rational solution in things, which is good if you ask me. Title: Re: After death Post by: bra4our on January 07, 2017, 02:30:32 PM As a Christian, after death if you accepted Christ as your personal Lord and Savior you will have eternal life in Heaven but if you don't, you are going to spend eternity in the Lake of fire.
Title: Re: After death Post by: igorokavg13 on January 07, 2017, 02:42:09 PM As a Christian, after death if you accepted Christ as your personal Lord and Savior you will have eternal life in Heaven but if you don't, you are going to spend eternity in the Lake of fire. You think about what you say! If a person is afraid of fire because it burns, then what's the lake of fire after death? How would he suffer all the time? So he will not feel pain. And then what's torture?Title: Re: After death Post by: 13abyknight on January 07, 2017, 03:26:24 PM I believe the only way to be free from the cycle of births and deaths is to attain 'Moksha' (salvation) which can only be attained by devoting one's life to the welfare of the good. (References from Hindu myths)
Title: Re: After death Post by: yuiyuga on January 07, 2017, 04:27:07 PM I can reassure you. Even if there is a God in Paradise you will not get anyway. The 10 commandments do not abide by no one. It is not possible. Those who wrote them dream about a better world when everyone will comply with them. The Communists also wrote their dreams, but they are not real. Time change poeple, and people evolve. Me and friend of mine came to solution that every religion last abouth 3000 years. Probably im wrong, but if you look yunger generations there are more and more people that are Atheists or Agnostics. Which mean that people are geting more and more logical and try to find rational solution in things, which is good if you ask me. Unfortunately there will always be people in world how will try to use other people. If not use people than try to use system. But we can only hope that in time this people will cease to exist . Title: Re: After death Post by: Morbid on January 07, 2017, 04:34:41 PM the big question is then: That is interesting, how come it's 21 grams? just like 21 million bitcoins... there must be a connection. But seriously, there are really strange things that happen, like the DMT trip that happens as you die (apparently). I've read that the pinneal gland secretes DMT when you die. I want to try DMT myself to see what's all the fuzz about. I've heard Joe Rogan and Terrence Mckenna talking about DMT and its tempting, but I dont have any good sources.is the brain's function being the source of consciousness or its a mere transmitter of consciousness which also gives us ability to create taking into account you have a functioning vessel. has anybody heard of 21 grams that people lose the moment they die? try researching if you can do an ayuhasca ceremony. though you gotta find a trusted facilitator/shaman for that. the experience is basically very personal & most get what they need or even perhaps deserve - healing in process. it sort of takes the blinds off this current reality. highly recommend for becoming aware of where our ego being begin and where our spiritual being end withing the construct of your essence. Title: Re: After death Post by: johnny11011 on January 08, 2017, 05:18:10 AM In the death of life, the knowledge of the various ideas have left the realm of the body to go into the realm of consciousness, there is a seed germination.
Title: Re: After death Post by: DingDong87 on January 08, 2017, 08:47:21 AM In the death of life, the knowledge of the various ideas have left the realm of the body to go into the realm of consciousness, there is a seed germination. Actually human body is like a tree once its dead it just get burried and gives space for new body to exist. Title: Re: After death Post by: Perle on January 08, 2017, 09:57:27 AM In the death of life, the knowledge of the various ideas have left the realm of the body to go into the realm of consciousness, there is a seed germination. Actually human body is like a tree once its dead it just get burried and gives space for new body to exist. Title: Re: After death Post by: iluvbitcoins on January 08, 2017, 05:21:15 PM I meant how does it match with actual results Actual results proving that God is not and cannot be. I agree that all the visions it's all a game of imagination. People believe what they want to believe. They are wishful thinking.What the hell are you talking about I'm talking about the children who said everything about their so called previous lives Names of parents, friends, neighbours, pictures, images etc. That he could not know with any possible way Even things that were later confirmed, and not known in the time of questioning Please take time to read the replies :) Title: Re: After death Post by: wowanstrong on January 08, 2017, 05:29:44 PM In the death of life, the knowledge of the various ideas have left the realm of the body to go into the realm of consciousness, there is a seed germination. It's all nonsense. If I had already lived I would remember something, but I don't remember anything from the past. I don't believe in an afterlife or in reincarnation. Myths exploiting the instinct of fear of death.Title: Re: After death Post by: Daniel.Jackson on January 08, 2017, 05:45:20 PM I believe that you re-incarnate after death. As another person not an animal. There is evidence of this if you do some research on youtube. People telling about their past lives. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=past+life+stories (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=past+life+stories)
Title: Re: After death Post by: daiyuba1971 on January 08, 2017, 07:38:00 PM I believe that you re-incarnate after death. As another person not an animal. There is evidence of this if you do some research on youtube. People telling about their past lives. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=past+life+stories (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=past+life+stories) When people talk about their past lives is not to say that it's true. If the person is a fan of this idea that his sick imagination can paint a very real picture. People can't tell the difference between imagination and reality.Title: Re: After death Post by: iluvbitcoins on January 08, 2017, 09:28:01 PM I believe that you re-incarnate after death. As another person not an animal. There is evidence of this if you do some research on youtube. People telling about their past lives. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=past+life+stories (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=past+life+stories) When people talk about their past lives is not to say that it's true. If the person is a fan of this idea that his sick imagination can paint a very real picture. People can't tell the difference between imagination and reality.Come on, seriously Are my posts bloody invisible or are people just ignoring them What about Ian Stevenson and his 2500 children? Not that I believe in it, but it makes me consider it Title: Re: After death Post by: shualingfa on January 09, 2017, 06:18:18 AM I think from the point of view of science, people after the death of what is not a feeling, not only will not become a ghost, it will not be reincarnated, but like a stick down headlong, no feeling.
Title: Re: After death Post by: bitcoinboy12 on January 09, 2017, 08:45:06 AM I think from the point of view of science, people after the death of what is not a feeling, not only will not become a ghost, it will not be reincarnated, but like a stick down headlong, no feeling. While it may not have an immediate impact. I believe it's far than just "nothing" when we are to consider science regarding death. Do you recall that there are a lot of things we can calculate that man imbibes? Heat and brainwaves etc are all things that can be measured. If man has released it to the world. Surely it has to go somewhere, remember matter cannot be created nor destroyed. Title: Re: After death Post by: runningm520 on January 10, 2017, 04:40:10 AM The vastness of the universe it is hard to imagine, a scientific discovery, the only way to prove the human small Nothing is right. It is not impossible to be higher than the human species or the "God". Similarly, the existence of the soul after the death of the human body, but also the probability may exist. For the present world, we know too little
Title: Re: After death Post by: noel2123 on January 12, 2017, 12:20:26 PM Actually I'm afraid of death, because I don't know where will I go, because I believe in heaven and hell. So a person like me who made a lot of sins. Im always thinking, Im going to be in heaven and cherish the moment with our creator, or in hell and regret forever what I've done when I'm living. So better to do good while were still here in this world because whenever know what will happen to us AFTER DEATH. :-X
Title: Re: After death Post by: Actualiteit on January 12, 2017, 12:25:15 PM After death I will be guided by the Valkyries to the great Hall. There I will fight and feast every day with my friends and family until the wolf swallows the moon and the serpent rises from the ocean.
Title: Re: After death Post by: loreykyutt05 on January 13, 2017, 06:37:58 AM After death, we never know what will happen to us, i dont know if im going to believe in heaven and hell, as far as i know, if were going to heaven there will be a room for each and everyone of us, and thats a happily ever after.
Title: Re: After death Post by: bitcoinboy12 on January 13, 2017, 01:24:56 PM After death, we never know what will happen to us, i dont know if im going to believe in heaven and hell, as far as i know, if were going to heaven there will be a room for each and everyone of us, and thats a happily ever after. This is a really cute picture of heaven. https://www.google.com.ph/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiaptP5m7_RAhWIsJQKHf0hAqAQjRwIBw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2F129977172%40N07%2F16006215592&psig=AFQjCNFrVul4TtRZ3lU3F5ewczCv1qZjeQ&ust=1484400239324435 Well i'm not saying that i am ultimately pro with the concept of heaven. But to me this is actually nice. Title: Re: After death Post by: PlanetOfBets on January 13, 2017, 04:17:50 PM The part I was wondering is, if there is an endless continuity after death, what happened before the birth? Do they believe that they exist? Could it be unilateral eternity? The subject comes back to reincarnation (although it has difficulty accepting it). Try to think about yourself a little before the birth. Nice things make you feel. At least it is also a way of thinking about the "ego".
Title: Re: After death Post by: gabmen on January 14, 2017, 04:04:19 PM After death, we never know what will happen to us, i dont know if im going to believe in heaven and hell, as far as i know, if were going to heaven there will be a room for each and everyone of us, and thats a happily ever after. Well that's a colorful way to look at it though. Heaven and hell. You go to heaven when you do the right things and hell when you don't. Though we never will be able to know if there is one aside from some stories by people who's said to have died already and brought back. For me i think death is final. That's why i think we should maximize the time that we have while we're still alive because we won't be able to do anything once our time is finished and we won't even know if there would be a continuation after this life. Although i'd love to believe in the notion that after this, we would be able to see all our departed loved ones, just like a big reunion. Title: Re: After death Post by: dark_pride on January 14, 2017, 04:18:46 PM The part I was wondering is, if there is an endless continuity after death, what happened before the birth? Do they believe that they exist? Could it be unilateral eternity? The subject comes back to reincarnation (although it has difficulty accepting it). Try to think about yourself a little before the birth. Nice things make you feel. At least it is also a way of thinking about the "ego". A person is considered alive until he lives his brain. How can it be considered alive if man ceased his thoughts, memories of his knowledge. Even doctors stop to resuscitate the man if he died his brain.Title: Re: After death Post by: ilog on January 14, 2017, 09:45:21 PM Hello,
After death there will be nothing. So we have to develop scientific approach to longevity as fast as we are capable. Kind Regards, Title: Re: After death Post by: bitjoin on January 14, 2017, 09:48:40 PM Hello, After death there will be nothing. So we have to develop scientific approach to longevity as fast as we are capable. Kind Regards, Yet the universe will at some point be nothing anyway. Also consider everything in life never turns to nothing - fire burns and turns to smoke which mixes with air etc etc. After death comes a new journey IMO. Title: Re: After death Post by: ilog on January 14, 2017, 09:55:31 PM Hello, After death there will be nothing. So we have to develop scientific approach to longevity as fast as we are capable. Kind Regards, Yet the universe will at some point be nothing anyway. Also consider everything in life never turns to nothing - fire burns and turns to smoke which mixes with air etc etc. After death comes a new journey IMO. Hello, A new journey to feed the worms. It is a necessity to prolong our life as much as we can. Kind Regards, Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on January 14, 2017, 09:58:11 PM Hello, After death there will be nothing. So we have to develop scientific approach to longevity as fast as we are capable. Kind Regards, Yet the universe will at some point be nothing anyway. Also consider everything in life never turns to nothing - fire burns and turns to smoke which mixes with air etc etc. After death comes a new journey IMO. Of course, the simple reason why we don't know about what is after death, might be that some of the dead have gone on to such a joyful new life that they don't even remember this one, and others have gone to a prison they can't get out of to come back and tell us. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: dippididodaday on January 15, 2017, 03:52:54 AM Hello, After death there will be nothing. So we have to develop scientific approach to longevity as fast as we are capable. Kind Regards, Yet the universe will at some point be nothing anyway. Also consider everything in life never turns to nothing - fire burns and turns to smoke which mixes with air etc etc. After death comes a new journey IMO. Hello, A new journey to feed the worms. It is a necessity to prolong our life as much as we can. Kind Regards, Indeed, the maggots are essential little bugs that feed on soft tissue. Therefore, a rotting human corpse is the cornerstone of a complex ecosystem as is feeds into new abundant life. Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on January 15, 2017, 10:13:45 PM Hello, After death there will be nothing. So we have to develop scientific approach to longevity as fast as we are capable. Kind Regards, Yet the universe will at some point be nothing anyway. Also consider everything in life never turns to nothing - fire burns and turns to smoke which mixes with air etc etc. After death comes a new journey IMO. Hello, A new journey to feed the worms. It is a necessity to prolong our life as much as we can. Kind Regards, Indeed, the maggots are essential little bugs that feed on soft tissue. Therefore, a rotting human corpse is the cornerstone of a complex ecosystem as is feeds into new abundant life. Right! Even the Bible talks about the super-maggots of Hell when it says, "... where their worm does not die, and their fire is not quenched." 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: stats on January 16, 2017, 07:54:13 AM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. Seriously, BADecker..... can you not read and respect someone's wishes for an answer which has nothing to do with religion? Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on January 16, 2017, 01:37:55 PM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. Seriously, BADecker..... can you not read and respect someone's wishes for an answer which has nothing to do with religion? As usual, you speak from a standpoint of ignorance. Look at the first response post. It's a non-religious post - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187756#msg17187756. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: MIGI on January 16, 2017, 06:22:24 PM After death, we never know what will happen to us, i dont know if im going to believe in heaven and hell, as far as i know, if were going to heaven there will be a room for each and everyone of us, and thats a happily ever after. This is a really cute picture of heaven. https://www.google.com.ph/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiaptP5m7_RAhWIsJQKHf0hAqAQjRwIBw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2F129977172%40N07%2F16006215592&psig=AFQjCNFrVul4TtRZ3lU3F5ewczCv1qZjeQ&ust=1484400239324435 Well i'm not saying that i am ultimately pro with the concept of heaven. But to me this is actually nice. Link doesn't work. I'm afraid I'm going to come back as a cockroach or a worm or a fuckin' anal bead. Title: Re: After death Post by: stats on January 16, 2017, 10:12:04 PM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. Seriously, BADecker..... can you not read and respect someone's wishes for an answer which has nothing to do with religion? As usual, you speak from a standpoint of ignorance. Look at the first response post. It's a non-religious post - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187756#msg17187756. 8) And yet you now move to a point of religion..... Hijacking much? Feel the need to speak about your religion because it is so worthless when you have been asked not too...... that shows you have no respect for others. Title: Re: After death Post by: bitcoinboy12 on January 17, 2017, 09:35:48 AM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. Seriously, BADecker..... can you not read and respect someone's wishes for an answer which has nothing to do with religion? As usual, you speak from a standpoint of ignorance. Look at the first response post. It's a non-religious post - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187756#msg17187756. 8) And yet you now move to a point of religion..... Hijacking much? Feel the need to speak about your religion because it is so worthless when you have been asked not too...... that shows you have no respect for others. I guess for some others, this can't really be helped. I've seen this a lot of times, and I am not sure if I can really blame them. Anyhow I still have to admit, that this can at times be really offensive and frustrating. We can't always involve religion on every matter. Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on January 17, 2017, 10:31:36 AM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. Seriously, BADecker..... can you not read and respect someone's wishes for an answer which has nothing to do with religion? As usual, you speak from a standpoint of ignorance. Look at the first response post. It's a non-religious post - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187756#msg17187756. 8) And yet you now move to a point of religion..... Hijacking much? Feel the need to speak about your religion because it is so worthless when you have been asked not too...... that shows you have no respect for others. Since religion is in the lives of all people, there is no way out of it. Just to post in the forum is a religious talk. It might be philosophical, but it is religious, as well. Since you are talking religion, I am responding in religion. My post to Tyrantt was about as far as anyone can get from religion. So, knowing all this, and even talking against it, why do you keep on posting your religious stuff? 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: stats on January 17, 2017, 01:38:56 PM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. Seriously, BADecker..... can you not read and respect someone's wishes for an answer which has nothing to do with religion? As usual, you speak from a standpoint of ignorance. Look at the first response post. It's a non-religious post - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187756#msg17187756. 8) And yet you now move to a point of religion..... Hijacking much? Feel the need to speak about your religion because it is so worthless when you have been asked not too...... that shows you have no respect for others. Since religion is in the lives of all people, there is no way out of it. Just to post in the forum is a religious talk. It might be philosophical, but it is religious, as well. Since you are talking religion, I am responding in religion. My post to Tyrantt was about as far as anyone can get from religion. So, knowing all this, and even talking against it, why do you keep on posting your religious stuff? 8) If you believe me to be religious then I will stop posting to show respect to others.... will you? Title: Re: After death Post by: zuyfg888 on January 17, 2017, 01:47:20 PM Anyone fear death. You cannot run if it is your time of death, you must face if it is your time. For me, I believe in after death, we cannot say where does our souls and body goes after death. You should only believe in God, God knows where we will go.
Title: Re: After death Post by: Daniel91 on January 17, 2017, 03:17:25 PM Anyone fear death. You cannot run if it is your time of death, you must face if it is your time. For me, I believe in after death, we cannot say where does our souls and body goes after death. You should only believe in God, God knows where we will go. Very well said. We fear from unknown, it's natural. In the Bible is said that God created man according to his image. He created our physical body from the dust and our spiritual body from his spirit. So, when our physical body dies and return to the earth, our spiritual body returns to God. It's great to know that our soul is eternal and that we will be reunited with our Creator, Heavenly Father, after physical death. Title: Re: After death Post by: bitcoinboy12 on January 17, 2017, 04:28:24 PM Anyone fear death. You cannot run if it is your time of death, you must face if it is your time. For me, I believe in after death, we cannot say where does our souls and body goes after death. You should only believe in God, God knows where we will go. Very well said. We fear from unknown, it's natural. In the Bible is said that God created man according to his image. He created our physical body from the dust and our spiritual body from his spirit. So, when our physical body dies and return to the earth, our spiritual body returns to God. It's great to know that our soul is eternal and that we will be reunited with our Creator, Heavenly Father, after physical death. Not everyone fears death. How would you explain those who are trying to kill themselves and are attempting suicide. But take this aside - those who has accepted life and tried to live it do not exactly fear death, at some level they might be scared of it perhaps, but they lived a life of contentment and fulfillment that they welcome death if it is to come. Title: Re: After death Post by: gabmen on January 19, 2017, 12:51:28 AM Anyone fear death. You cannot run if it is your time of death, you must face if it is your time. For me, I believe in after death, we cannot say where does our souls and body goes after death. You should only believe in God, God knows where we will go. Very well said. We fear from unknown, it's natural. In the Bible is said that God created man according to his image. He created our physical body from the dust and our spiritual body from his spirit. So, when our physical body dies and return to the earth, our spiritual body returns to God. It's great to know that our soul is eternal and that we will be reunited with our Creator, Heavenly Father, after physical death. Not everyone fears death. How would you explain those who are trying to kill themselves and are attempting suicide. But take this aside - those who has accepted life and tried to live it do not exactly fear death, at some level they might be scared of it perhaps, but they lived a life of contentment and fulfillment that they welcome death if it is to come. Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on January 19, 2017, 02:01:42 AM Anyone fear death. You cannot run if it is your time of death, you must face if it is your time. For me, I believe in after death, we cannot say where does our souls and body goes after death. You should only believe in God, God knows where we will go. Very well said. We fear from unknown, it's natural. In the Bible is said that God created man according to his image. He created our physical body from the dust and our spiritual body from his spirit. So, when our physical body dies and return to the earth, our spiritual body returns to God. It's great to know that our soul is eternal and that we will be reunited with our Creator, Heavenly Father, after physical death. Not everyone fears death. How would you explain those who are trying to kill themselves and are attempting suicide. But take this aside - those who has accepted life and tried to live it do not exactly fear death, at some level they might be scared of it perhaps, but they lived a life of contentment and fulfillment that they welcome death if it is to come. It is many fears combined. Top among them are... When you get a cut, or if you lose a finger, there is usually some pain involved. Same said when you have an operation at the hospital. The body is built with a natural aversion to pain and death. People who know that they are dying, especially if it happens quickly, like in a car accident where you have only minutes of life left, become very realistic. They put aside their foolish ideals of life, including the fact that God does not exist. They fear having to meet Him, because they know instinctively that they have not obeyed His laws during their lives. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: bikihabana on January 19, 2017, 05:55:33 AM People who know that they are dying, especially if it happens quickly, like in a car accident where you have only minutes of life left, become very realistic. They put aside their foolish ideals of life, including the fact that God does not exist. They fear having to meet Him, because they know instinctively that they have not obeyed His laws during their lives. You too, will one day put aside your foolish ideals of your life and realize when you meet the Great One, that you have not obeyed his laws during your life. It will be too late then. Title: Re: After death Post by: philggg on January 19, 2017, 07:23:05 AM i have heard many stories about people who die and went to hell or heaven,but at times I personally have been having nightmare of my late mother and in that dream she will tell me something which do happened later physically ,so I believe that when a person dies the spirit in him comes out of his body the body decays into the soil,where the spirit goes depends on the good works the person does while on heart,Christ love you
Title: Re: After death Post by: frendsento on January 19, 2017, 07:49:33 AM Well all of us here was alive and there is no way for us to identify what will happen after our death , death is a inescapable scenario that every one of us will encounter , This might not be relevant but I will still post that there is a hint given to us by the scriptures what will happen to use after death read John 3:16
Title: Re: After death Post by: stats on January 19, 2017, 07:53:22 AM Anyone fear death. You cannot run if it is your time of death, you must face if it is your time. For me, I believe in after death, we cannot say where does our souls and body goes after death. You should only believe in God, God knows where we will go. Very well said. We fear from unknown, it's natural. In the Bible is said that God created man according to his image. He created our physical body from the dust and our spiritual body from his spirit. So, when our physical body dies and return to the earth, our spiritual body returns to God. It's great to know that our soul is eternal and that we will be reunited with our Creator, Heavenly Father, after physical death. Not everyone fears death. How would you explain those who are trying to kill themselves and are attempting suicide. But take this aside - those who has accepted life and tried to live it do not exactly fear death, at some level they might be scared of it perhaps, but they lived a life of contentment and fulfillment that they welcome death if it is to come. It is many fears combined. Top among them are... When you get a cut, or if you lose a finger, there is usually some pain involved. Same said when you have an operation at the hospital. The body is built with a natural aversion to pain and death. People who know that they are dying, especially if it happens quickly, like in a car accident where you have only minutes of life left, become very realistic. They put aside their foolish ideals of life, including the fact that God does not exist. They fear having to meet Him, because they know instinctively that they have not obeyed His laws during their lives. 8) See you couldn't resist again with your crap BADecker. Title: Re: After death Post by: TooQik on January 19, 2017, 09:02:40 AM It is many fears combined. Top among them are... When you get a cut, or if you lose a finger, there is usually some pain involved. Same said when you have an operation at the hospital. The body is built with a natural aversion to pain and death. People who know that they are dying, especially if it happens quickly, like in a car accident where you have only minutes of life left, become very realistic. They put aside their foolish ideals of life, including the fact that God does not exist. They fear having to meet Him, because they know instinctively that they have not obeyed His laws during their lives. 8) I take it from your comments BADecker that you've been present when many people have died, holding their hand and comforting them in their dying moments. May I ask what line of work you did this in? Or is this simply an opinion based on your own beliefs? [tongue in cheek] The thing that I fear most in death, is that BADdecker is right and there is a God. I'll have to put up with his religious nonsense for the rest of eternity....yes, that's right, he bet on the wrong God ;) [/tongue in cheek] Title: Re: After death Post by: ridery99 on January 19, 2017, 09:04:24 AM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. If you believe in Jesus then you go to Heaven, if you don't, you go to Hell. Title: Re: After death Post by: Buffer Overflow on January 19, 2017, 09:21:27 AM People who know that they are dying, especially if it happens quickly, like in a car accident where you have only minutes of life left, become very realistic. They put aside their foolish ideals of life, including the fact that God does not exist. They fear having to meet Him, because they know instinctively that they have not obeyed His laws during their lives. You too, will one day put aside your foolish ideals of your life and realize when you meet the Great One, that you have not obeyed his laws during your life. It will be too late then. When you reply please try to avoid any assumptions, fallacies or circular logic. If you believe in Jesus then you go to Heaven, if you don't, you go to Hell. I can't believe that here we are in 2017 and people still got this ridiculous idea in their head.Nobody know what happens when we die. Nobody. People that claim they know what happens and present it as fact are liars. Speculation what happens is fine of course (we've all done that), claiming it as fact is not. That's all it ever will be, blind speculation. Nothing more. Title: Re: After death Post by: tetra on January 19, 2017, 02:27:52 PM Succumbing to religion. Sigh, nothing ever changes...
Title: Re: After death Post by: sergeyzol on January 19, 2017, 02:36:13 PM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. If you believe in Jesus then you go to Heaven, if you don't, you go to Hell. Title: Re: After death Post by: bikihabana on January 19, 2017, 05:16:08 PM People who know that they are dying, especially if it happens quickly, like in a car accident where you have only minutes of life left, become very realistic. They put aside their foolish ideals of life, including the fact that God does not exist. They fear having to meet Him, because they know instinctively that they have not obeyed His laws during their lives. You too, will one day put aside your foolish ideals of your life and realize when you meet the Great One, that you have not obeyed his laws during your life. It will be too late then. When you reply please try to avoid any assumptions, fallacies or circular logic. If you believe in Jesus then you go to Heaven, if you don't, you go to Hell. I can't believe that here we are in 2017 and people still got this ridiculous idea in their head.Nobody know what happens when we die. Nobody. People that claim they know what happens and present it as fact are liars. Speculation what happens is fine of course (we've all done that), claiming it as fact is not. That's all it ever will be, blind speculation. Nothing more. In this modern day and age, you seem a little uninformed. Let me make it easy for you, what happens: Clinical death occurs when the person's heartbeat, breathing and circulation stop. Four to six minutes later, biological death occurs. That's when brain cells begin to die from lack of oxygen, and resuscitation is impossible. There, now you too are informed with knowledge we possess in 2017. :) Title: Re: After death Post by: igorokavg13 on January 19, 2017, 05:24:22 PM People who know that they are dying, especially if it happens quickly, like in a car accident where you have only minutes of life left, become very realistic. They put aside their foolish ideals of life, including the fact that God does not exist. They fear having to meet Him, because they know instinctively that they have not obeyed His laws during their lives. You too, will one day put aside your foolish ideals of your life and realize when you meet the Great One, that you have not obeyed his laws during your life. It will be too late then. When you reply please try to avoid any assumptions, fallacies or circular logic. If you believe in Jesus then you go to Heaven, if you don't, you go to Hell. I can't believe that here we are in 2017 and people still got this ridiculous idea in their head.Nobody know what happens when we die. Nobody. People that claim they know what happens and present it as fact are liars. Speculation what happens is fine of course (we've all done that), claiming it as fact is not. That's all it ever will be, blind speculation. Nothing more. In this modern day and age, you seem a little uninformed. Let me make it easy for you, what happens: Clinical death occurs when the person's heartbeat, breathing and circulation stop. Four to six minutes later, biological death occurs. That's when brain cells begin to die from lack of oxygen, and resuscitation is impossible. There, now you too are informed with knowledge we possess in 2017. :) Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on January 20, 2017, 05:28:16 PM People who know that they are dying, especially if it happens quickly, like in a car accident where you have only minutes of life left, become very realistic. They put aside their foolish ideals of life, including the fact that God does not exist. They fear having to meet Him, because they know instinctively that they have not obeyed His laws during their lives. You too, will one day put aside your foolish ideals of your life and realize when you meet the Great One, that you have not obeyed his laws during your life. It will be too late then. When you reply please try to avoid any assumptions, fallacies or circular logic. If you believe in Jesus then you go to Heaven, if you don't, you go to Hell. I can't believe that here we are in 2017 and people still got this ridiculous idea in their head.Nobody know what happens when we die. Nobody. People that claim they know what happens and present it as fact are liars. Speculation what happens is fine of course (we've all done that), claiming it as fact is not. That's all it ever will be, blind speculation. Nothing more. In this modern day and age, you seem a little uninformed. Let me make it easy for you, what happens: Clinical death occurs when the person's heartbeat, breathing and circulation stop. Four to six minutes later, biological death occurs. That's when brain cells begin to die from lack of oxygen, and resuscitation is impossible. There, now you too are informed with knowledge we possess in 2017. :) The human brain is simply the interface that the real, spiritual, spirit-body human uses to interact with this world. Death will simply cause the person to lose his connection with this world. Many (if not all) of his other spiritual connections will remain intact. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: v1ryspro on January 20, 2017, 05:46:01 PM People who know that they are dying, especially if it happens quickly, like in a car accident where you have only minutes of life left, become very realistic. They put aside their foolish ideals of life, including the fact that God does not exist. They fear having to meet Him, because they know instinctively that they have not obeyed His laws during their lives. You too, will one day put aside your foolish ideals of your life and realize when you meet the Great One, that you have not obeyed his laws during your life. It will be too late then. When you reply please try to avoid any assumptions, fallacies or circular logic. If you believe in Jesus then you go to Heaven, if you don't, you go to Hell. I can't believe that here we are in 2017 and people still got this ridiculous idea in their head.Nobody know what happens when we die. Nobody. People that claim they know what happens and present it as fact are liars. Speculation what happens is fine of course (we've all done that), claiming it as fact is not. That's all it ever will be, blind speculation. Nothing more. In this modern day and age, you seem a little uninformed. Let me make it easy for you, what happens: Clinical death occurs when the person's heartbeat, breathing and circulation stop. Four to six minutes later, biological death occurs. That's when brain cells begin to die from lack of oxygen, and resuscitation is impossible. There, now you too are informed with knowledge we possess in 2017. :) The human brain is simply the interface that the real, spiritual, spirit-body human uses to interact with this world. Death will simply cause the person to lose his connection with this world. Many (if not all) of his other spiritual connections will remain intact. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: hexitor on January 20, 2017, 06:17:39 PM I remember child I was very afraid of the death, me even had a nightmare there. My parents to reassure me told me that when that we died we were reincarnated in animal. This theory to market until certain one age or I me sui reported that when died we became again dust.
Title: Re: After death Post by: yuiyuga on January 20, 2017, 06:22:00 PM I remember child I was very afraid of the death, me even had a nightmare there. My parents to reassure me told me that when that we died we were reincarnated in animal. This theory to market until certain one age or I me sui reported that when died we became again dust. Unfortunately life after death does not exist. For their complacency, of course you can think that, but I believe that we have to live now. Then you have no chance. And don't be afraid to die. It is a deliverance from suffering.Title: Re: After death Post by: Malsetid on January 25, 2017, 10:01:20 PM I remember child I was very afraid of the death, me even had a nightmare there. My parents to reassure me told me that when that we died we were reincarnated in animal. This theory to market until certain one age or I me sui reported that when died we became again dust. Unfortunately life after death does not exist. For their complacency, of course you can think that, but I believe that we have to live now. Then you have no chance. And don't be afraid to die. It is a deliverance from suffering.No one can really be sure if theres life after death or if death is already final. And i think we shouldn't really worry about that because we have our lives in front of us and we need to make the most out of it. For me i think in a way death is finality. So whatever you can do to make your stay in this life worthwhile then by all means do it. Title: Re: After death Post by: ifightformerkel on January 25, 2017, 10:42:49 PM This is a really hard question. I think that the only the body die and the soul life further.
We live than only in another dimesion. We now only see 3 dimesions because our body, but i think, that there are a lot of more what we can see when we leave our body. Title: Re: After death Post by: darkangel11 on January 26, 2017, 05:16:52 AM We already know that human body creates energy and that energy goes back to the universe after our death, because energy can't cease to exist, it can only change its form. There were even experiments where human body was weighted before and after death and there were significant differences, so something escapes from the body when we die. Is it a soul? Who knows. THere are people who were born with memories of other people, who lived before them. How would you explain it?
Title: Re: After death Post by: Seansky on January 26, 2017, 08:33:27 AM No one really knows if life after death exist or not, but there's one thing for sure. As the post above said, " There were even experiments where human body was weighted before and after death and there were significant differences" is a great proof that something is going out of a person's body that we can't see when one dies. Maybe reincarnation is real, but there's a possibility that it isn't and there is another possibility we can't even think of that happens when someone dies.
Title: Re: After death Post by: Daniel91 on January 26, 2017, 03:08:30 PM No one really knows if life after death exist or not, but there's one thing for sure. As the post above said, " There were even experiments where human body was weighted before and after death and there were significant differences" is a great proof that something is going out of a person's body that we can't see when one dies. Maybe reincarnation is real, but there's a possibility that it isn't and there is another possibility we can't even think of that happens when someone dies. I really think that science, soon or later, will be able to find out about spiritual world and what happen with our body after death. We have many experience from people who died or was death for a short time, but recovered and come back (close to death experiences). When you read all this testimonies, it's impossible to deny that we continue to live after our physical death (death of our body). I think that God didn't created us to live only short time on the earth but to live eternally with him in Heaven. Title: Re: After death Post by: The_prodigy on January 26, 2017, 04:38:26 PM When you died i know that you will live again in another world you only died in your body not your soul it self so maybe you're going to travel into another world that no one will see it only you and also those people who died already too. I know science will discover this kind where soul come.
Title: Re: After death Post by: gabmen on January 26, 2017, 04:58:51 PM When you died i know that you will live again in another world you only died in your body not your soul it self so maybe you're going to travel into another world that no one will see it only you and also those people who died already too. I know science will discover this kind where soul come. That's a good way to look at though not very realistic. I don't see any way that science can prove there's another life after the one that we're living right now as I think scientists know well enough to study first the things that can benefit us while we're still alive than venturing to what's going to happen after death. Title: Re: After death Post by: coolcoinz on January 26, 2017, 06:16:01 PM No one really knows if life after death exist or not, but there's one thing for sure. As the post above said, " There were even experiments where human body was weighted before and after death and there were significant differences" is a great proof that something is going out of a person's body that we can't see when one dies. Maybe reincarnation is real, but there's a possibility that it isn't and there is another possibility we can't even think of that happens when someone dies. I really think that science, soon or later, will be able to find out about spiritual world and what happen with our body after death. We have many experience from people who died or was death for a short time, but recovered and come back (close to death experiences). When you read all this testimonies, it's impossible to deny that we continue to live after our physical death (death of our body). I think that God didn't created us to live only short time on the earth but to live eternally with him in Heaven. Title: Re: After death Post by: dippididodaday on January 26, 2017, 06:59:43 PM When biological death takes hold, rest assured this is the very end of you. There is no more "you" left when the brain neurons finally stop firing. The only reason people feel there is something more like a "soul" or a "spirit", is because in homo sapiens, life has reached a self-conscious state. This self consciousness can easily lead you to believe that there is more than the biological, but self consciousness is itself grounded in the biological makeup, as it emerges out of the neuronal firings going on in our brains and bodies, but primarily our brains. When reality settles in, darkness prevails. Believe it. The light only goes on in the living. In fact, technically you can't speak of the dead, because there are no more of "you" to be referred to at all. There is simply nothing. Title: Re: After death Post by: Idrisu on January 27, 2017, 07:43:26 AM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. After death is judgment Notting more than that. Should we question about what we have limited knowledge of? The only word that is real is the words of God. The words of God came to his prophets through revelations and that words said " after death then judgment. For those that do good will be with the lord and for those that do evil to hell fire.That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. Title: Re: After death Post by: grermezter on January 27, 2017, 02:14:05 PM Since man is a spirit, Death is the separation of the human spirit from the body. Eventually the spirit returns to the maker which is God, who judges all spirits. I am speaking as a Christian on this issue.
Title: Re: After death Post by: gredisgold88 on January 27, 2017, 03:26:56 PM who know after death ? , if you life ? put poison or sianida and then talk me , how life after death . post here :D
Title: Re: After death Post by: Edraket31 on January 27, 2017, 03:51:56 PM I believe that there is life after death and it is what they called "eternity", I believe in it. I don't know how to explain but as simple as I believe in God and it is what written in bible. But, according to some belief they said that after death your soul will live again in another body and they call it "reincarnation"
Title: Re: After death Post by: vaxo_nba on January 28, 2017, 04:45:20 PM Post death existance is completely based on our faith because it's totally immaterial condition, so we can not argue about it with classical logical approach. As for me, I believe in the life after death and existance of heaven and hell but I don't have even a little idea what it'll be like, hence I advice all not to overthink :-)
Title: Re: After death Post by: vaxo_nba on January 29, 2017, 06:02:08 AM Post death existance is completely based on our faith because it's totally immaterial condition, so we can not argue about it with classical logical approach. As for me, I believe in the life after death and existance of heaven and hell but I don't have even a little idea what it'll be like, hence I advice all not to overthink :-) You are totaly right my friend. I agree with you one hundred procent. There is not enough material for facts of places after death, and i dont think there will ever be. But i also share your beliefs to some point. And you are certainly right when you told to not overthing, because people do that a lot. :D Glad to hear that. I always try not to make people influenced with my ideas in a bad way . It's not only about life after death, every issue that has little amount of proofs doesn't worth to argue very seriously. That's why sciences divide into exact and non-exact categories. Title: Re: After death Post by: jonnybravo0411 on January 29, 2017, 12:14:03 PM Post death existance is completely based on our faith because it's totally immaterial condition, so we can not argue about it with classical logical approach. As for me, I believe in the life after death and existance of heaven and hell but I don't have even a little idea what it'll be like, hence I advice all not to overthink :-) I don't believe in life after death. It is not possible to prove from a scientific point of view, and all would see and prove the existence to me. We have to live now and to abandon many of the benefits now for the sake of what will happen after I'm not ready.Title: Re: After death Post by: Daniel91 on January 29, 2017, 01:21:59 PM I believe that there is life after death and it is what they called "eternity", I believe in it. I don't know how to explain but as simple as I believe in God and it is what written in bible. But, according to some belief they said that after death your soul will live again in another body and they call it "reincarnation" Your soul will return to your creator, God. It's true that some souls are ''not ready yet'' to return to God and staying here, on earth, because of some ''unfinished'' business. Such souls can influence earthly people, often in a bad way, and such people can act in a evil way, because of such spirits. People wrongly believe that such phenomena means "reincarnation" but in fact, we have earthy person with weak spiritual mind, competly dominated by the ''ghost''. Title: Re: After death Post by: notech on January 29, 2017, 01:31:43 PM One thing is for sure - death will come, so enjoy your life while you can then who knows
Title: Re: After death Post by: Edraket31 on January 29, 2017, 01:46:07 PM Post death existance is completely based on our faith because it's totally immaterial condition, so we can not argue about it with classical logical approach. As for me, I believe in the life after death and existance of heaven and hell but I don't have even a little idea what it'll be like, hence I advice all not to overthink :-) I don't believe in life after death. It is not possible to prove from a scientific point of view, and all would see and prove the existence to me. We have to live now and to abandon many of the benefits now for the sake of what will happen after I'm not ready.Title: Re: After death Post by: Docnaster on January 30, 2017, 10:41:53 AM Our life wouldn't matter if there is no death. Our consciousness, feelings, relations and wisdom gives us life. I feel that death is not just a bad thing because it can also be our freedom from the materialistic world. But, we may never know what may happen after death unless we our in the process of dying.
Title: Re: After death Post by: JofryTheKing on January 30, 2017, 12:07:53 PM Our life wouldn't matter if there is no death. Our consciousness, feelings, relations and wisdom gives us life. I feel that death is not just a bad thing because it can also be our freedom from the materialistic world. But, we may never know what may happen after death unless we our in the process of dying. I'm sure that after death there will be nothing. Life is given to us only once. If I back out now from any of the goods in order that after death you go to heaven which I think is stupid. Think about it.Title: Re: After death Post by: wh04m1 on January 30, 2017, 12:57:58 PM We do not remember the pre-birth. With death we will disappear in our body. Scientifically there is no soul.
So you do not have to worry. You will remember nothing after you die. Title: Re: After death Post by: vaxo_nba on January 30, 2017, 02:11:58 PM Post death existance is completely based on our faith because it's totally immaterial condition, so we can not argue about it with classical logical approach. As for me, I believe in the life after death and existance of heaven and hell but I don't have even a little idea what it'll be like, hence I advice all not to overthink :-) I don't believe in life after death. It is not possible to prove from a scientific point of view, and all would see and prove the existence to me. We have to live now and to abandon many of the benefits now for the sake of what will happen after I'm not ready.In the idea our opinions don't confront each other :-) I also believe that arguing about non-proofable issues is ignorance and nothing more. Title: Re: After death Post by: GooCust04 on January 30, 2017, 02:22:48 PM We do not remember the pre-birth. With death we will disappear in our body. Scientifically there is no soul. I also don't believe in life after death. These stories invented by religious leaders to be able to manage people and asking for money. The funny thing to me is that there are people who change their real life to virtual life after death.So you do not have to worry. You will remember nothing after you die. Title: Re: After death Post by: t2yax on January 31, 2017, 12:04:38 PM We're all afraid of death and if someone talks about death some of us will get goosebumps. Sometimes I am wondering where will I go if I die, Heaven or Hell? I know to myself that I did good things as well as bad things, probably 80% of what I did to my life was bad, well I just want to be honest. :) So whether Im going to heaven or hell, I will do whatever I want and live happily, because Life is given just once.
Title: Re: After death Post by: Daniel91 on January 31, 2017, 03:29:15 PM We're all afraid of death and if someone talks about death some of us will get goosebumps. Sometimes I am wondering where will I go if I die, Heaven or Hell? I know to myself that I did good things as well as bad things, probably 80% of what I did to my life was bad, well I just want to be honest. :) So whether Im going to heaven or hell, I will do whatever I want and live happily, because Life is given just once. Yes, earthly physical life is given justr once but after that you will enter in eternal spiritual life. How you will live in this, next life, depends on your life on the earth. You see, when you are in mother's womb, you have to prepare your body so that you can breathe in the next, physical world. In the same way, while you live in the physical world, you have to prepare your spiritual ''body'' so that you can breathe in the next, spiritual world. In spiritual world you can breathe only if you developed love, while you lived on the earth. If you can't breathe and live in the Heaven, you know where you will go, don't you? Title: Re: After death Post by: mikehersh2 on January 31, 2017, 03:58:21 PM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. In my own ideas i don't really believe in reborn or reincarnated because if you do you have the slightest chance to have your past memories because the souls is connected to the brain if your soul is past down by someone you have the same attitude in the past even though you are not interested in christian etc. but i have a theory that when we die we might go to heaven and we don't really know whats in there or whats the nature there but believe me when we die we go to heaven i know its hard to believe it but its real alright when our time comes our answers will be answered my friend but then you have to believe in God in order to solve that big question mark in your head :) its possible really :) just a simple thing you will add up just believe :) Yes, you may not believe in re-incarnation or heaven, but you cannot be so definitive about it, nobody can. Do I believe in reincarnation, no, but I do believe in the soul, and that you are more than simply bone and muscle. Science cannot explain consciousness, and what you think of when you think of "me", and where that comes from. It has been said that bodies directly after death weigh slightly less than before death. People that I personally know and trust have held loved ones, even dogs, and have said that they without a doubt felt their soul leave the body. Where that soul goes, we can never know for sure. Title: Re: After death Post by: wh04m1 on February 02, 2017, 04:02:31 PM We do not remember the pre-birth. With death we will disappear in our body. Scientifically there is no soul. I also don't believe in life after death. These stories invented by religious leaders to be able to manage people and asking for money. The funny thing to me is that there are people who change their real life to virtual life after death.So you do not have to worry. You will remember nothing after you die. When we look at the history of humanity, wars are generally religion-based. Like you said, religion is a great device for people to use. As Marx said, "Religion is the opium of the people" Title: Re: After death Post by: Karloff on February 02, 2017, 07:54:59 PM We do not remember the pre-birth. With death we will disappear in our body. Scientifically there is no soul. I also don't believe in life after death. These stories invented by religious leaders to be able to manage people and asking for money. The funny thing to me is that there are people who change their real life to virtual life after death.So you do not have to worry. You will remember nothing after you die. When we look at the history of humanity, wars are generally religion-based. Like you said, religion is a great device for people to use. As Marx said, "Religion is the opium of the people" Title: Re: After death Post by: jovs on February 04, 2017, 04:42:08 AM Our life wouldn't matter if there is no death. Our consciousness, feelings, relations and wisdom gives us life. I feel that death is not just a bad thing because it can also be our freedom from the materialistic world. But, we may never know what may happen after death unless we our in the process of dying. Yes, we should not mind what would happen after our death. What we should mind is how can we make our life meaningful. I do not believe on something that I don't see but God. I beleieve in existence if God but the way we are created, I am with science. Same as death, I don't beleieve in souls for the reason that there is no evidence/witness that can prove on its existence. Let's just tend to be nice as we live, be thankful because we do still exist. Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on February 04, 2017, 04:45:22 AM Our life wouldn't matter if there is no death. Our consciousness, feelings, relations and wisdom gives us life. I feel that death is not just a bad thing because it can also be our freedom from the materialistic world. But, we may never know what may happen after death unless we our in the process of dying. Yes, we should not mind what would happen after our death. What we should mind is how can we make our life meaningful. I do not believe on something that I don't see but God. I beleieve in existence if God but the way we are created, I am with science. Same as death, I don't beleieve in souls for the reason that there is no evidence/witness that can prove on its existence. Let's just tend to be nice as we live, be thankful because we do still exist. Since death is the end of everything that we do and are in this life, there are only two good things that we can do: 1. Find Jesus salvation so that we can live in the next life; 2. Help others find Jesus salvation so that they can live, as well. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: stats on February 04, 2017, 07:43:22 AM Our life wouldn't matter if there is no death. Our consciousness, feelings, relations and wisdom gives us life. I feel that death is not just a bad thing because it can also be our freedom from the materialistic world. But, we may never know what may happen after death unless we our in the process of dying. Yes, we should not mind what would happen after our death. What we should mind is how can we make our life meaningful. I do not believe on something that I don't see but God. I beleieve in existence if God but the way we are created, I am with science. Same as death, I don't beleieve in souls for the reason that there is no evidence/witness that can prove on its existence. Let's just tend to be nice as we live, be thankful because we do still exist. Since death is the end of everything that we do and are in this life, there are only two good things that we can do: 1. Find Jesus salvation so that we can live in the next life; 2. Help others find Jesus salvation so that they can live, as well. 8) You forgot option 3. 3. Nothing. You die. End of Story. No afterlife. Title: Re: After death Post by: electronicash on February 04, 2017, 08:47:32 AM Our life wouldn't matter if there is no death. Our consciousness, feelings, relations and wisdom gives us life. I feel that death is not just a bad thing because it can also be our freedom from the materialistic world. But, we may never know what may happen after death unless we our in the process of dying. Yes, we should not mind what would happen after our death. What we should mind is how can we make our life meaningful. I do not believe on something that I don't see but God. I beleieve in existence if God but the way we are created, I am with science. Same as death, I don't beleieve in souls for the reason that there is no evidence/witness that can prove on its existence. Let's just tend to be nice as we live, be thankful because we do still exist. Since death is the end of everything that we do and are in this life, there are only two good things that we can do: 1. Find Jesus salvation so that we can live in the next life; 2. Help others find Jesus salvation so that they can live, as well. 8) You forgot option 3. 3. Nothing. You die. End of Story. No afterlife. the 3rd option is the most possible of all. there is nothing after death. its all darkness there, you wouldn't want to live in that dark. notice when someone die in an accident and you look at their eyes wide open yet? if you are that dead man and you just discover there's life after death and you watch yourself, ain't that painful? pain is never a heaven. if there's life after death you are just going to remember the ones you left like sons, daughters and you're going to live miserably after death. Title: Re: After death Post by: ovvidiy on February 04, 2017, 10:21:01 AM Our life wouldn't matter if there is no death. Our consciousness, feelings, relations and wisdom gives us life. I feel that death is not just a bad thing because it can also be our freedom from the materialistic world. But, we may never know what may happen after death unless we our in the process of dying. Yes, we should not mind what would happen after our death. What we should mind is how can we make our life meaningful. I do not believe on something that I don't see but God. I beleieve in existence if God but the way we are created, I am with science. Same as death, I don't beleieve in souls for the reason that there is no evidence/witness that can prove on its existence. Let's just tend to be nice as we live, be thankful because we do still exist. Since death is the end of everything that we do and are in this life, there are only two good things that we can do: 1. Find Jesus salvation so that we can live in the next life; 2. Help others find Jesus salvation so that they can live, as well. 8) You forgot option 3. 3. Nothing. You die. End of Story. No afterlife. the 3rd option is the most possible of all. there is nothing after death. its all darkness there, you wouldn't want to live in that dark. notice when someone die in an accident and you look at their eyes wide open yet? if you are that dead man and you just discover there's life after death and you watch yourself, ain't that painful? pain is never a heaven. if there's life after death you are just going to remember the ones you left like sons, daughters and you're going to live miserably after death. Title: Re: After death Post by: burner2014 on February 05, 2017, 12:52:45 PM Our life wouldn't matter if there is no death. Our consciousness, feelings, relations and wisdom gives us life. I feel that death is not just a bad thing because it can also be our freedom from the materialistic world. But, we may never know what may happen after death unless we our in the process of dying. Yes, we should not mind what would happen after our death. What we should mind is how can we make our life meaningful. I do not believe on something that I don't see but God. I beleieve in existence if God but the way we are created, I am with science. Same as death, I don't beleieve in souls for the reason that there is no evidence/witness that can prove on its existence. Let's just tend to be nice as we live, be thankful because we do still exist. Since death is the end of everything that we do and are in this life, there are only two good things that we can do: 1. Find Jesus salvation so that we can live in the next life; 2. Help others find Jesus salvation so that they can live, as well. 8) We are not perfect that is why if we have Jesus in our hearts then we should not be worry about our after death, and Jesus will be With us because He is the Way, the Truth and the Life. Title: Re: After death Post by: AT-N-T101 on February 05, 2017, 01:04:09 PM Our life wouldn't matter if there is no death. Our consciousness, feelings, relations and wisdom gives us life. I feel that death is not just a bad thing because it can also be our freedom from the materialistic world. But, we may never know what may happen after death unless we our in the process of dying. Yes, we should not mind what would happen after our death. What we should mind is how can we make our life meaningful. I do not believe on something that I don't see but God. I beleieve in existence if God but the way we are created, I am with science. Same as death, I don't beleieve in souls for the reason that there is no evidence/witness that can prove on its existence. Let's just tend to be nice as we live, be thankful because we do still exist. Since death is the end of everything that we do and are in this life, there are only two good things that we can do: 1. Find Jesus salvation so that we can live in the next life; 2. Help others find Jesus salvation so that they can live, as well. 8) We are not perfect that is why if we have Jesus in our hearts then we should not be worry about our after death, and Jesus will be With us because He is the Way, the Truth and the Life. Title: Re: After death Post by: wh04m1 on February 05, 2017, 11:25:27 PM We do not remember the pre-birth. With death we will disappear in our body. Scientifically there is no soul. I also don't believe in life after death. These stories invented by religious leaders to be able to manage people and asking for money. The funny thing to me is that there are people who change their real life to virtual life after death.So you do not have to worry. You will remember nothing after you die. When we look at the history of humanity, wars are generally religion-based. Like you said, religion is a great device for people to use. As Marx said, "Religion is the opium of the people" Because religion can guide people very easily. It is very difficult to fool an atheist. But using beliefs you can do things to people. They can vote for the elections to you. You can make them fight. Title: Re: After death Post by: iluvbitcoins on February 05, 2017, 11:44:41 PM We do not remember the pre-birth. With death we will disappear in our body. Scientifically there is no soul. I also don't believe in life after death. These stories invented by religious leaders to be able to manage people and asking for money. The funny thing to me is that there are people who change their real life to virtual life after death.So you do not have to worry. You will remember nothing after you die. When we look at the history of humanity, wars are generally religion-based. Like you said, religion is a great device for people to use. As Marx said, "Religion is the opium of the people" Because religion can guide people very easily. It is very difficult to fool an atheist. But using beliefs you can do things to people. They can vote for the elections to you. You can make them fight. That's untrue. Remember USSR and North Korea? Their populations were/are mostly atheist and they followed their leaders blindly into poverty Title: Re: After death Post by: Flamma on February 06, 2017, 12:51:34 PM I believe in life after death. I also think that we may be reincarnated after such time. I don't think that we just stop at one point and just stay there. This is why I believe in God. I believe that after we die, we get to see him and then we're given a chance to be much better in our next life.
Title: Re: After death Post by: Cherry Girl on February 06, 2017, 12:58:15 PM I believe in life after death. I also think that we may be reincarnated after such time. I don't think that we just stop at one point and just stay there. This is why I believe in God. I believe that after we die, we get to see him and then we're given a chance to be much better in our next life. How can you believe in life after death? With the death of the human brain, life stops. Even if she were the life of the soul after death, to live and not be able to communicate with their loved ones is this lifeTitle: Re: After death Post by: xdtiagonzhar on February 06, 2017, 02:45:26 PM I believe in life after death. I also think that we may be reincarnated after such time. I don't think that we just stop at one point and just stay there. This is why I believe in God. I believe that after we die, we get to see him and then we're given a chance to be much better in our next life. How can you believe in life after death? With the death of the human brain, life stops. Even if she were the life of the soul after death, to live and not be able to communicate with their loved ones is this lifeYa i believe there is life after death too but not for reincarnation because if there is then isnt our life will endless, life > death > reincarnated > life > death. Title: Re: After death Post by: Fizamcc on February 06, 2017, 02:54:18 PM I believe in life after death. I also think that we may be reincarnated after such time. I don't think that we just stop at one point and just stay there. This is why I believe in God. I believe that after we die, we get to see him and then we're given a chance to be much better in our next life. How can you believe in life after death? With the death of the human brain, life stops. Even if she were the life of the soul after death, to live and not be able to communicate with their loved ones is this lifeYa i believe there is life after death too but not for reincarnation because if there is then isnt our life will endless, life > death > reincarnated > life > death. Title: Re: After death Post by: xdtiagonzhar on February 07, 2017, 03:57:44 PM I believe in life after death. I also think that we may be reincarnated after such time. I don't think that we just stop at one point and just stay there. This is why I believe in God. I believe that after we die, we get to see him and then we're given a chance to be much better in our next life. How can you believe in life after death? With the death of the human brain, life stops. Even if she were the life of the soul after death, to live and not be able to communicate with their loved ones is this lifeYa i believe there is life after death too but not for reincarnation because if there is then isnt our life will endless, life > death > reincarnated > life > death. Title: Re: After death Post by: AT-N-T101 on February 07, 2017, 04:47:29 PM I believe in life after death. I also think that we may be reincarnated after such time. I don't think that we just stop at one point and just stay there. This is why I believe in God. I believe that after we die, we get to see him and then we're given a chance to be much better in our next life. How can you believe in life after death? With the death of the human brain, life stops. Even if she were the life of the soul after death, to live and not be able to communicate with their loved ones is this lifeYa i believe there is life after death too but not for reincarnation because if there is then isnt our life will endless, life > death > reincarnated > life > death. Title: Re: After death Post by: xdtiagonzhar on February 08, 2017, 09:02:17 AM I don't believe in the existence of life after death. I'm sure that after his death the end and nothing. Psychics who communicate with spirits are scammers. They deceive people in order to enrich. So if you think like that then what is the purpose of this life then? Or you mean it had no purpose at all? Hmm about spirit or ghos, i believe thry are excist but i never see it with my own eyes tho :) Title: Re: After death Post by: worhiper_-_ on February 11, 2017, 12:15:58 AM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. There are other instances of people who had been raised from the dead, but unlike those mentioned before in the Bible, Lazarus had been dead for an entire period of four days. When Lazarus died, Jesus said, “ ‘Our friend Lazarus sleeps, but I go that I may wake him up.’ Then His disciples said, ‘Lord, if he sleeps he will get well.’ However, Jesus spoke of his death, but they thought that He was speaking about taking rest in sleep. Title: Re: After death Post by: gabmen on February 11, 2017, 10:31:58 AM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. There are other instances of people who had been raised from the dead, but unlike those mentioned before in the Bible, Lazarus had been dead for an entire period of four days. When Lazarus died, Jesus said, “ ‘Our friend Lazarus sleeps, but I go that I may wake him up.’ Then His disciples said, ‘Lord, if he sleeps he will get well.’ However, Jesus spoke of his death, but they thought that He was speaking about taking rest in sleep. Title: Re: After death Post by: Mike Christ on February 11, 2017, 11:30:26 AM The great paradox: to truly know what there is after death, you must first die, and there's no returning from that AFAIK. Anyone who tries to sell you on something different is full of it.
As far as anyone can actually tell, what's left after death is what you've done in this world, i.e. your legacy. Most people are completely eradicated from history, they have no names, no faces, only a lineage if that; very few people are worth remembering, and of those who are remembered, are often not even known by most people: you are fortunate to be remembered by anyone long after your death, and sometimes it's just for infamy; I'm sure Hitler didn't want to be remembered as a villain but alas. If you want to be remembered, you have to do something great. Everyone knows who Mozart, Bach and Beethoven are, and everyone knows why they are remembered; everyone knows Plato, and Socrates, and Aristotle, though they may not know precisely why they stick out--these guys are several thousand years old and their works are still studied. I could go on. As far as anyone can actually tell, the conscious is tied to the passage of time and the senses as perceived by each individual; our thoughts and feelings are a stream, one after the other, and that is who we are; I can say these thoughts are mine, but once I die, I lose the ability to recognize these thoughts are mine and the ability to recognize that I have the ability to recognize these thoughts are mine, and of course I lose the ability to have thoughts at all. If the conscious is tied to the mind and the mind perishes upon death, and if the world exists outside of our ability to sense it, then one can conclude that the world will continue on without this one eye in the galaxy to perceive its happening, and perhaps perceive this one eye posthumous too, as we perceive other eyes in our history. Where can the consciousness go without its shell to generate the stream of "me"?--if the ego is tied to this shell and the shell perishes, so does the ego. Experience depends on a vessel to experience with; no vessel, no experience. So some say there is a vessel within a vessel that is released upon death, they call this the soul. Of course there is no evidence of such a thing empirically but I suppose one could make any sort of logical argumentation that a soul is potentially existing. Some take it on the authority of holy documentation that there is a soul, but I don't think this is any such way to get closer to the truth. Some feel better knowing they will continue on after death, and take it an offense that one such as myself argues against its existence, but what can you do about that. And then there are those who think this is all a simulation, and perhaps on death you are awakened from the simulation much like in The Matrix, but again, without empirical evidence of such a thing existing, only logical reasoning, it's not something anyone can really say for sure. IMO you shouldn't waste life thinking you'll be going somewhere after death; the most certain thing is that you get one life and one chance to do something with it, so don't waste it writing long posts of forums contemplating the potentials of posthumous living. Title: Re: After death Post by: Losvienleg on February 11, 2017, 12:32:28 PM After death you will go to the Purgatory, where you will wait for your judgement, at the end of the times. Then you will end up for eternity in Heaven or in Hell.
Title: Re: After death Post by: stats on February 11, 2017, 01:14:03 PM After death you will go to the Purgatory, where you will wait for your judgement, at the end of the times. Then you will end up for eternity in Heaven or in Hell. And your proof of this is what? Title: Re: After death Post by: xdtiagonzhar on February 11, 2017, 01:32:55 PM After death you will go to the Purgatory, where you will wait for your judgement, at the end of the times. Then you will end up for eternity in Heaven or in Hell. And your proof of this is what? I agree, after death is the judgement, depent on what we do in this world, we will going to heaven or hell. So thats the purpose of our life, we must always doing good thing and avoid bad thing so in the next life we wont suffering from punisment. Thats the purpose of all religion, ya if its artheis then they wont believe it. I dont had proof i never and someone never going to hell or heaven before born here, if everyone ever had going to heaven and hell before born and the memory still intact then i believe everyone who had that memory will always doing good deed. Title: Re: After death Post by: stats on February 11, 2017, 01:52:03 PM After death you will go to the Purgatory, where you will wait for your judgement, at the end of the times. Then you will end up for eternity in Heaven or in Hell. And your proof of this is what? I agree, after death is the judgement, depent on what we do in this world, we will going to heaven or hell. So thats the purpose of our life, we must always doing good thing and avoid bad thing so in the next life we wont suffering from punisment. Thats the purpose of all religion, ya if its artheis then they wont believe it. I dont had proof i never and someone never going to hell or heaven before born here, if everyone ever had going to heaven and hell before born and the memory still intact then i believe everyone who had that memory will always doing good deed. You admit there is no proof, so your assumption of what happens after death is therefore based on faith. Good for you that you have faith, but that does not make it real. Title: Re: After death Post by: DD-Lex on February 11, 2017, 02:00:07 PM After death you will go to the Purgatory, where you will wait for your judgement, at the end of the times. Then you will end up for eternity in Heaven or in Hell. And your proof of this is what? I agree, after death is the judgement, depent on what we do in this world, we will going to heaven or hell. So thats the purpose of our life, we must always doing good thing and avoid bad thing so in the next life we wont suffering from punisment. Thats the purpose of all religion, ya if its artheis then they wont believe it. I dont had proof i never and someone never going to hell or heaven before born here, if everyone ever had going to heaven and hell before born and the memory still intact then i believe everyone who had that memory will always doing good deed. You admit there is no proof, so your assumption of what happens after death is therefore based on faith. Good for you that you have faith, but that does not make it real. Title: Re: After death Post by: JC btc on February 11, 2017, 04:15:54 PM Believers need no evidence. It is enough that they themselves believe. I believe that they are sick. How do sane people can believe in unproven assertions. In addition, these statements are very primitive. That is true even if you have proof still they won't believe you because they have their own mindset and their own belief. We respect them of course as long as they respect ours. Title: Re: After death Post by: SirPol85 on February 11, 2017, 04:21:25 PM Believers need no evidence. It is enough that they themselves believe. I believe that they are sick. How do sane people can believe in unproven assertions. In addition, these statements are very primitive. That is true even if you have proof still they won't believe you because they have their own mindset and their own belief. We respect them of course as long as they respect ours. Title: Re: After death Post by: transabox on February 11, 2017, 07:54:10 PM Believers need no evidence. It is enough that they themselves believe. I believe that they are sick. How do sane people can believe in unproven assertions. In addition, these statements are very primitive. That is true even if you have proof still they won't believe you because they have their own mindset and their own belief. We respect them of course as long as they respect ours. And I believe it. I do not want to know that there is nothing after death. I am sure that only the body dies, but the soul of man is immortal. Title: Re: After death Post by: Dem-artini on February 11, 2017, 07:58:40 PM Believers need no evidence. It is enough that they themselves believe. I believe that they are sick. How do sane people can believe in unproven assertions. In addition, these statements are very primitive. That is true even if you have proof still they won't believe you because they have their own mindset and their own belief. We respect them of course as long as they respect ours. And I believe it. I do not want to know that there is nothing after death. I am sure that only the body dies, but the soul of man is immortal. Title: Re: After death Post by: Losvienleg on February 11, 2017, 09:27:43 PM After death you will go to the Purgatory, where you will wait for your judgement, at the end of the times. Then you will end up for eternity in Heaven or in Hell. And your proof of this is what? The Holy Bible. You will not have much problems searching for the exact pages on the Internet. Title: Re: After death Post by: stats on February 12, 2017, 01:08:34 AM After death you will go to the Purgatory, where you will wait for your judgement, at the end of the times. Then you will end up for eternity in Heaven or in Hell. And your proof of this is what? The Holy Bible. You will not have much problems searching for the exact pages on the Internet. A fantasy book! No more accurate than Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter. Sorry, more proof needed. Title: Re: After death Post by: fikihafana on February 12, 2017, 03:02:01 AM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. Little proof that life after death there is Heaven or hell, i dont want to talk too much in this forum If I kill your mother you will definitely punish me in order to create fairness, but what if you can not find me? The answer is you do not get justice, therefore hell created for those who do not get justice in the world. There is hitler, Shiro Ishii,pol pot, Josef Stalin, theese people in an evil, they kill thousand or million human. In this case i choose hitler, hitler make WW and kill million human and no one can punish him, he did suicide. Let say you can punish hitler, what will you do with hitler?? Kill him, burn him, torment him?? is that enough? Hitler:victim 1 : 1.000.000 You punish him once so 1:999.999 Is this enough? there are so many victim now still 999.999, you have to punish him 1.000.000, huh?? Let say he reincarnate to be something diffrent and not as a human, so he need reincarnate 1.000.000. If he reincarnate as a musquito, wow he is very easy to kill huh? it's not sense If reincarnation is a way to Punish hitler, i will say it's not sense. If I can not be found and if there is no heaven and hell, surely I will do a lot of negative things to make me happy, I will be raped someone, I will kill people and I would rob people. Because nothing is going to punish me, and i will happy if i can reincarnation, so i can be better or the worst again huh?? Title: Re: After death Post by: frendsento on February 12, 2017, 05:32:57 AM Believers need no evidence. It is enough that they themselves believe. I believe that they are sick. How do sane people can believe in unproven assertions. In addition, these statements are very primitive. That is true even if you have proof still they won't believe you because they have their own mindset and their own belief. We respect them of course as long as they respect ours. Title: Re: After death Post by: Losvienleg on February 12, 2017, 11:31:35 AM After death you will go to the Purgatory, where you will wait for your judgement, at the end of the times. Then you will end up for eternity in Heaven or in Hell. And your proof of this is what? The Holy Bible. You will not have much problems searching for the exact pages on the Internet. Did you guys know that The Holy Bible is is 80% cases reason why people decided to become atheists? There are many ways that Bible can be understood, and people often tend to understand it wrong. Too many people have dont some terrible things because of Bible, so live that book aside. Live life by moral rules, and everyone will be happy... If you like this or not, the Holy Bible is at the root of our conception of what is good and what is not. The 10 Commandments are at the root of the morality. Title: Re: After death Post by: Cherry Girl on February 12, 2017, 12:03:49 PM After death you will go to the Purgatory, where you will wait for your judgement, at the end of the times. Then you will end up for eternity in Heaven or in Hell. And your proof of this is what? The Holy Bible. You will not have much problems searching for the exact pages on the Internet. Did you guys know that The Holy Bible is is 80% cases reason why people decided to become atheists? There are many ways that Bible can be understood, and people often tend to understand it wrong. Too many people have dont some terrible things because of Bible, so live that book aside. Live life by moral rules, and everyone will be happy... If you like this or not, the Holy Bible is at the root of our conception of what is good and what is not. The 10 Commandments are at the root of the morality. Title: Re: After death Post by: Daniel91 on February 12, 2017, 12:26:27 PM After death you will go to the Purgatory, where you will wait for your judgement, at the end of the times. Then you will end up for eternity in Heaven or in Hell. And your proof of this is what? The Holy Bible. You will not have much problems searching for the exact pages on the Internet. Did you guys know that The Holy Bible is is 80% cases reason why people decided to become atheists? There are many ways that Bible can be understood, and people often tend to understand it wrong. Too many people have dont some terrible things because of Bible, so live that book aside. Live life by moral rules, and everyone will be happy... If you like this or not, the Holy Bible is at the root of our conception of what is good and what is not. The 10 Commandments are at the root of the morality. I can name a few: Jesus, Francis of Assisi, Mother Theresa etc. :) If you can't keep 10 commandments, it doesn't mean that such commandments are unrealistic and out of reach for us. In fact, 10 commandments are root of today's morality and law in our societies. Religion talks about fundamental issue like origin of the universe, root of sin, salvation, absolute moral standards etc. Philosophers and scientists have thousands of ideas on these issues but no so much concrete answers, which they can prove as true. So, I still prefer religious truth as unchanging and absolute. Human truth is changeable and relative and it's fact. Title: Re: After death Post by: Eternu on February 12, 2017, 12:29:39 PM After death you will go to the Purgatory, where you will wait for your judgement, at the end of the times. Then you will end up for eternity in Heaven or in Hell. And your proof of this is what? The Holy Bible. You will not have much problems searching for the exact pages on the Internet. Did you guys know that The Holy Bible is is 80% cases reason why people decided to become atheists? There are many ways that Bible can be understood, and people often tend to understand it wrong. Too many people have dont some terrible things because of Bible, so live that book aside. Live life by moral rules, and everyone will be happy... If you like this or not, the Holy Bible is at the root of our conception of what is good and what is not. The 10 Commandments are at the root of the morality. Yes, Holy Bible speak of 10 Commandments and that is root of morality in religion. But can you tell me for certain that morality comes from 10 Commandments and Holy Bible. Nop i think that morality comes from person no matter which religion he is. You have Buddhism and they have morality too, but they dont have 10 Commandments or Holy Bible... I approve religion for trying to show people good way, if they cant find it on there own. But i dont approve when someone force other to believe in something they dont want. God bless free will XD ! Title: Re: After death Post by: Lacander on February 12, 2017, 12:32:20 PM After death you will go to the Purgatory, where you will wait for your judgement, at the end of the times. Then you will end up for eternity in Heaven or in Hell. And your proof of this is what? The Holy Bible. You will not have much problems searching for the exact pages on the Internet. Did you guys know that The Holy Bible is is 80% cases reason why people decided to become atheists? There are many ways that Bible can be understood, and people often tend to understand it wrong. Too many people have dont some terrible things because of Bible, so live that book aside. Live life by moral rules, and everyone will be happy... If you like this or not, the Holy Bible is at the root of our conception of what is good and what is not. The 10 Commandments are at the root of the morality. I can name a few: Jesus, Francis of Assisi, Mother Theresa etc. :) If you can't keep 10 commandments, it doesn't mean that such commandments are unrealistic and out of reach for us. In fact, 10 commandments are root of today's morality and law in our societies. Religion talks about fundamental issue like origin of the universe, root of sin, salvation, absolute moral standards etc. Philosophers and scientists have thousands of ideas on these issues but no so much concrete answers, which they can prove as true. So, I still prefer religious truth as unchanging and absolute. Human truth is changeable and relative and it's fact. Title: Re: After death Post by: JC btc on February 12, 2017, 12:47:30 PM Believers need no evidence. It is enough that they themselves believe. I believe that they are sick. How do sane people can believe in unproven assertions. In addition, these statements are very primitive. That is true even if you have proof still they won't believe you because they have their own mindset and their own belief. We respect them of course as long as they respect ours. Title: Re: After death Post by: Losvienleg on February 12, 2017, 12:53:43 PM After death you will go to the Purgatory, where you will wait for your judgement, at the end of the times. Then you will end up for eternity in Heaven or in Hell. And your proof of this is what? The Holy Bible. You will not have much problems searching for the exact pages on the Internet. Did you guys know that The Holy Bible is is 80% cases reason why people decided to become atheists? There are many ways that Bible can be understood, and people often tend to understand it wrong. Too many people have dont some terrible things because of Bible, so live that book aside. Live life by moral rules, and everyone will be happy... If you like this or not, the Holy Bible is at the root of our conception of what is good and what is not. The 10 Commandments are at the root of the morality. I can name a few: Jesus, Francis of Assisi, Mother Theresa etc. :) If you can't keep 10 commandments, it doesn't mean that such commandments are unrealistic and out of reach for us. In fact, 10 commandments are root of today's morality and law in our societies. Religion talks about fundamental issue like origin of the universe, root of sin, salvation, absolute moral standards etc. Philosophers and scientists have thousands of ideas on these issues but no so much concrete answers, which they can prove as true. So, I still prefer religious truth as unchanging and absolute. Human truth is changeable and relative and it's fact. Exactly my friend. This makes me laugh when people say "But we are not in the XVIIIth Century !", assuming that things that were true at this era were not today. The fundamental value of Truth is that it does not change, as religion. Title: Re: After death Post by: SameHow on February 12, 2017, 12:54:45 PM Believers need no evidence. It is enough that they themselves believe. I believe that they are sick. How do sane people can believe in unproven assertions. In addition, these statements are very primitive. That is true even if you have proof still they won't believe you because they have their own mindset and their own belief. We respect them of course as long as they respect ours. Title: Re: After death Post by: the.jack20 on February 13, 2017, 03:33:56 PM No one knows life after death. There are only arguments in the middle. But the idea that life after death is not yet proven.
But we know what will happen when the creatures die. Our body will start to rot. And the living creatures in the earth will eat our bodies. Then we will only have bones. Title: Re: After death Post by: Tyrantt on February 13, 2017, 03:38:35 PM No one knows life after death. There are only arguments in the middle. But the idea that life after death is not yet proven. But we know what will happen when the creatures die. Our body will start to rot. And the living creatures in the earth will eat our bodies. Then we will only have bones. Well I guess you didn't quite understand what I've meant in this topic. I've asked on opinions, thoughts on what happens with us after death but not in the means of rotting away even tho that's the thing we're only sure of but the soul/consciousness and whatnot aspect. How you do yourself see the period after ones death? Title: Re: After death Post by: Tyrantt on February 13, 2017, 03:41:16 PM Why do you guys have to turn everything about a religion? This was intended to be more of a philosophical question than a clashing of religions and atheists. I'll need to edit the original post so you don't start flame wars again.
Title: Re: After death Post by: SirPol85 on February 13, 2017, 03:41:31 PM No one knows life after death. There are only arguments in the middle. But the idea that life after death is not yet proven. I agree with you. How modern people can believe in what he believed primitive people? For me it is nonsense!. There is nothing after death. Live and enjoy life now. A second chance you will not.But we know what will happen when the creatures die. Our body will start to rot. And the living creatures in the earth will eat our bodies. Then we will only have bones. Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on February 13, 2017, 10:10:26 PM Why do you guys have to turn everything about a religion? This was intended to be more of a philosophical question than a clashing of religions and atheists. I'll need to edit the original post so you don't start flame wars again. So, you like the religion of philosophy. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on February 13, 2017, 10:12:38 PM Believers need no evidence. It is enough that they themselves believe. I believe that they are sick. How do sane people can believe in unproven assertions. In addition, these statements are very primitive. That is true even if you have proof still they won't believe you because they have their own mindset and their own belief. We respect them of course as long as they respect ours. On the other hand, since you know very little of everything that is there to be known, you do NOT know that there is no life after death. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: stats on February 14, 2017, 07:45:37 AM On the other hand, since you know very little of everything that is there to be known, you do NOT know that there is no life after death. 8) On the other hand, since you know very little of everything that there is to be known, you do NOT know that there is life after death. Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on February 15, 2017, 02:26:49 AM On the other hand, since you know very little of everything that is there to be known, you do NOT know that there is no life after death. 8) On the other hand, since you know very little of everything that there is to be known, you do NOT know that there is life after death. But I know more than you, since I know that God exists, while you don't accept the proof: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. God says that there is life after death. Just as life as it exists now is essentially impossible, even so the impossible life after death will exist, as well. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: stats on February 15, 2017, 08:41:19 AM On the other hand, since you know very little of everything that is there to be known, you do NOT know that there is no life after death. 8) On the other hand, since you know very little of everything that there is to be known, you do NOT know that there is life after death. But I know more than you, since I know that God exists, while you don't accept the proof: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. God says that there is life after death. Just as life as it exists now is essentially impossible, even so the impossible life after death will exist, as well. 8) Your links are not proof. They are links to your own words. Claiming YOUR words as proof shows how delusional you are. I suggest you accept your fate that when you die you will be dead.... nothing more. Title: Re: After death Post by: cramcram21 on February 15, 2017, 01:17:52 PM Well I like to think that we would just be born again or reincarnate,
I have watch a documentary about it and some kid's have said that they know something about their past life. Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on February 15, 2017, 01:28:34 PM On the other hand, since you know very little of everything that is there to be known, you do NOT know that there is no life after death. 8) On the other hand, since you know very little of everything that there is to be known, you do NOT know that there is life after death. But I know more than you, since I know that God exists, while you don't accept the proof: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. God says that there is life after death. Just as life as it exists now is essentially impossible, even so the impossible life after death will exist, as well. 8) Your links are not proof. They are links to your own words. Claiming YOUR words as proof shows how delusional you are. I suggest you accept your fate that when you die you will be dead.... nothing more. Since my words show the proof that God exists, they are simply a guide for those who want to prove God to themselves. Go out and research what I say. God is proven by science and nature. Then, turn to find God Who you so fervently deny, even to the point of denying science. Since God made all science, attempting to use science to disprove God has only failed in the past, and will only fail in the future. The past failure of science to disprove God is what is making some scientists turn to fables of science theory. Science theory is the fiction that they are often using to attempt to disprove God. They will fail. But you, stats. You simply blab against God without anything to back up what you say. Why not acknowledge the fact of God in your life? Why not acknowledge reality? You will only wind up destroying yourself if you continue this way. Turn to God. He is willing to accept you... for now. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: birareru1988 on February 15, 2017, 01:34:54 PM On the other hand, since you know very little of everything that is there to be known, you do NOT know that there is no life after death. 8) On the other hand, since you know very little of everything that there is to be known, you do NOT know that there is life after death. But I know more than you, since I know that God exists, while you don't accept the proof: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. God says that there is life after death. Just as life as it exists now is essentially impossible, even so the impossible life after death will exist, as well. 8) Your links are not proof. They are links to your own words. Claiming YOUR words as proof shows how delusional you are. I suggest you accept your fate that when you die you will be dead.... nothing more. Since my words show the proof that God exists, they are simply a guide for those who want to prove God to themselves. Go out and research what I say. God is proven by science and nature. Then, turn to find God Who you so fervently deny, even to the point of denying science. Since God made all science, attempting to use science to disprove God has only failed in the past, and will only fail in the future. The past failure of science to disprove God is what is making some scientists turn to fables of science theory. Science theory is the fiction that they are often using to attempt to disprove God. They will fail. But you, stats. You simply blab against God without anything to back up what you say. Why not acknowledge the fact of God in your life? Why not acknowledge reality? You will only wind up destroying yourself if you continue this way. Turn to God. He is willing to accept you... for now. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on February 15, 2017, 01:46:25 PM On the other hand, since you know very little of everything that is there to be known, you do NOT know that there is no life after death. 8) On the other hand, since you know very little of everything that there is to be known, you do NOT know that there is life after death. But I know more than you, since I know that God exists, while you don't accept the proof: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. God says that there is life after death. Just as life as it exists now is essentially impossible, even so the impossible life after death will exist, as well. 8) Your links are not proof. They are links to your own words. Claiming YOUR words as proof shows how delusional you are. I suggest you accept your fate that when you die you will be dead.... nothing more. Since my words show the proof that God exists, they are simply a guide for those who want to prove God to themselves. Go out and research what I say. God is proven by science and nature. Then, turn to find God Who you so fervently deny, even to the point of denying science. Since God made all science, attempting to use science to disprove God has only failed in the past, and will only fail in the future. The past failure of science to disprove God is what is making some scientists turn to fables of science theory. Science theory is the fiction that they are often using to attempt to disprove God. They will fail. But you, stats. You simply blab against God without anything to back up what you say. Why not acknowledge the fact of God in your life? Why not acknowledge reality? You will only wind up destroying yourself if you continue this way. Turn to God. He is willing to accept you... for now. 8) I don't know if you are funny or not. Why did you bring it up? In the links above in this post, the proof that God created all things is available. All things includes science. So far, we only have science theory that attempts to deny the existence of God. Such theory will never become science fact. Believing it to be science fact because of a consensus among scientists doesn't make it fact. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: stats on February 15, 2017, 02:25:56 PM On the other hand, since you know very little of everything that is there to be known, you do NOT know that there is no life after death. 8) On the other hand, since you know very little of everything that there is to be known, you do NOT know that there is life after death. But I know more than you, since I know that God exists, while you don't accept the proof: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. God says that there is life after death. Just as life as it exists now is essentially impossible, even so the impossible life after death will exist, as well. 8) Your links are not proof. They are links to your own words. Claiming YOUR words as proof shows how delusional you are. I suggest you accept your fate that when you die you will be dead.... nothing more. Since my words show the proof that God exists, they are simply a guide for those who want to prove God to themselves. Go out and research what I say. God is proven by science and nature. Then, turn to find God Who you so fervently deny, even to the point of denying science. Since God made all science, attempting to use science to disprove God has only failed in the past, and will only fail in the future. The past failure of science to disprove God is what is making some scientists turn to fables of science theory. Science theory is the fiction that they are often using to attempt to disprove God. They will fail. But you, stats. You simply blab against God without anything to back up what you say. Why not acknowledge the fact of God in your life? Why not acknowledge reality? You will only wind up destroying yourself if you continue this way. Turn to God. He is willing to accept you... for now. 8) I don't need to repeat myself to prove that your God is a false lie. If people want to see the truth.... read the christian bible. It is full of false tales and contradictory commands. Anyone who reads the book with an open mind can see for themselves. You choose to see scientific results and "assume" they lead to an answer of your God. You twist the truth and speculate. That my little chuckle buddy is not science but delusions. Title: Re: After death Post by: yuiyuga on February 15, 2017, 04:08:02 PM There is nothing after death. I am sure that there is no God. Stories about God moving in order to have control over people. I do not understand how people nowadays are willing to become the slaves even of God does not exist.
Title: Re: After death Post by: Leprikon on February 15, 2017, 07:58:22 PM There is the Imminent Death Experience (IDE), which is an expression of a set of "visions" and "sensations" resulting from clinical death or advanced coma. These experiences correspond to: the complete vision of one's own existence, vision of a tunnel, encounter with spiritual entities, vision of a light, infinite love, peace and tranquility, impression Of an ineffable experience and of union with divine or supranormal principles. The vision of the tunnel during near-death this is due to the peculiarities of the human brain. After death the human brain is dying. No tunnels will be gone. There will be darkness. This proves that life after death does not exist.The IDE is a crossroads problem where transcendental or spiritualist interpretations intersect with physiological or psychological interpretations. This is a very good description of death for me. Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on February 16, 2017, 02:39:03 AM On the other hand, since you know very little of everything that is there to be known, you do NOT know that there is no life after death. 8) On the other hand, since you know very little of everything that there is to be known, you do NOT know that there is life after death. But I know more than you, since I know that God exists, while you don't accept the proof: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. God says that there is life after death. Just as life as it exists now is essentially impossible, even so the impossible life after death will exist, as well. 8) Your links are not proof. They are links to your own words. Claiming YOUR words as proof shows how delusional you are. I suggest you accept your fate that when you die you will be dead.... nothing more. Since my words show the proof that God exists, they are simply a guide for those who want to prove God to themselves. Go out and research what I say. God is proven by science and nature. Then, turn to find God Who you so fervently deny, even to the point of denying science. Since God made all science, attempting to use science to disprove God has only failed in the past, and will only fail in the future. The past failure of science to disprove God is what is making some scientists turn to fables of science theory. Science theory is the fiction that they are often using to attempt to disprove God. They will fail. But you, stats. You simply blab against God without anything to back up what you say. Why not acknowledge the fact of God in your life? Why not acknowledge reality? You will only wind up destroying yourself if you continue this way. Turn to God. He is willing to accept you... for now. 8) I don't need to repeat myself to prove that your God is a false lie. If people want to see the truth.... read the christian bible. It is full of false tales and contradictory commands. Anyone who reads the book with an open mind can see for themselves. You choose to see scientific results and "assume" they lead to an answer of your God. You twist the truth and speculate. That my little chuckle buddy is not science but delusions. I don't necessarily agree with you when you talk bad about the Christian God, but... That isn't the point. Okay, so you don't want to believe in the Christian God for some reason. Then you better find a way to get right with God, because God definitely exists. There is no speculation in the scientific facts that prove God exists. There are only people who know God, and people who aren't willing to look at the fact that God exists. However... If science hadn't proven God, the machine nature of the universe has proven Him for thousands of years. Your willing ignorance of the truth is destroying you. Change while you still have time. God hasn't given up on you yet. Don't force Him to do so. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: stats on February 16, 2017, 09:27:03 AM On the other hand, since you know very little of everything that is there to be known, you do NOT know that there is no life after death. 8) On the other hand, since you know very little of everything that there is to be known, you do NOT know that there is life after death. But I know more than you, since I know that God exists, while you don't accept the proof: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. God says that there is life after death. Just as life as it exists now is essentially impossible, even so the impossible life after death will exist, as well. 8) Your links are not proof. They are links to your own words. Claiming YOUR words as proof shows how delusional you are. I suggest you accept your fate that when you die you will be dead.... nothing more. Since my words show the proof that God exists, they are simply a guide for those who want to prove God to themselves. Go out and research what I say. God is proven by science and nature. Then, turn to find God Who you so fervently deny, even to the point of denying science. Since God made all science, attempting to use science to disprove God has only failed in the past, and will only fail in the future. The past failure of science to disprove God is what is making some scientists turn to fables of science theory. Science theory is the fiction that they are often using to attempt to disprove God. They will fail. But you, stats. You simply blab against God without anything to back up what you say. Why not acknowledge the fact of God in your life? Why not acknowledge reality? You will only wind up destroying yourself if you continue this way. Turn to God. He is willing to accept you... for now. 8) I don't need to repeat myself to prove that your God is a false lie. If people want to see the truth.... read the christian bible. It is full of false tales and contradictory commands. Anyone who reads the book with an open mind can see for themselves. You choose to see scientific results and "assume" they lead to an answer of your God. You twist the truth and speculate. That my little chuckle buddy is not science but delusions. I don't necessarily agree with you when you talk bad about the Christian God, but... That isn't the point. Okay, so you don't want to believe in the Christian God for some reason. Then you better find a way to get right with God, because God definitely exists. There is no speculation in the scientific facts that prove God exists. There are only people who know God, and people who aren't willing to look at the fact that God exists. However... If science hadn't proven God, the machine nature of the universe has proven Him for thousands of years. Your willing ignorance of the truth is destroying you. Change while you still have time. God hasn't given up on you yet. Don't force Him to do so. 8) Oh chuckles.... can you from now on post with a beginning of..... "Knock Knock" Your arguments are getting lamer. They are now extremely fanciful. Title: Re: After death Post by: Aikonio on February 16, 2017, 09:35:48 AM On the other hand, since you know very little of everything that is there to be known, you do NOT know that there is no life after death. 8) On the other hand, since you know very little of everything that there is to be known, you do NOT know that there is life after death. But I know more than you, since I know that God exists, while you don't accept the proof: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. God says that there is life after death. Just as life as it exists now is essentially impossible, even so the impossible life after death will exist, as well. 8) Your links are not proof. They are links to your own words. Claiming YOUR words as proof shows how delusional you are. I suggest you accept your fate that when you die you will be dead.... nothing more. Since my words show the proof that God exists, they are simply a guide for those who want to prove God to themselves. Go out and research what I say. God is proven by science and nature. Then, turn to find God Who you so fervently deny, even to the point of denying science. Since God made all science, attempting to use science to disprove God has only failed in the past, and will only fail in the future. The past failure of science to disprove God is what is making some scientists turn to fables of science theory. Science theory is the fiction that they are often using to attempt to disprove God. They will fail. But you, stats. You simply blab against God without anything to back up what you say. Why not acknowledge the fact of God in your life? Why not acknowledge reality? You will only wind up destroying yourself if you continue this way. Turn to God. He is willing to accept you... for now. 8) I don't need to repeat myself to prove that your God is a false lie. If people want to see the truth.... read the christian bible. It is full of false tales and contradictory commands. Anyone who reads the book with an open mind can see for themselves. You choose to see scientific results and "assume" they lead to an answer of your God. You twist the truth and speculate. That my little chuckle buddy is not science but delusions. I don't necessarily agree with you when you talk bad about the Christian God, but... That isn't the point. Okay, so you don't want to believe in the Christian God for some reason. Then you better find a way to get right with God, because God definitely exists. There is no speculation in the scientific facts that prove God exists. There are only people who know God, and people who aren't willing to look at the fact that God exists. However... If science hadn't proven God, the machine nature of the universe has proven Him for thousands of years. Your willing ignorance of the truth is destroying you. Change while you still have time. God hasn't given up on you yet. Don't force Him to do so. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: Eternu on February 16, 2017, 01:47:13 PM Lol! Name me one scientific theory which admits that God exists. People lied about the existence of different gods and no one has confirmed the existence of at least one of them. You're blind if you believe without evidence. You are wrong my friend. Its not blindness, the thing that you described is called faith. And faith is not something that can be proved with science. Real faith comes from within person, and if someone try to explain what faith is to a person that doesnt want to believe in it, there will be a lot of discussion and they wont agree on anything. There are no scientific theory about God and there will never be... but people will still believe in God. Title: Re: After death Post by: sergeyzol on February 16, 2017, 01:54:54 PM Lol! Name me one scientific theory which admits that God exists. People lied about the existence of different gods and no one has confirmed the existence of at least one of them. You're blind if you believe without evidence. You are wrong my friend. Its not blindness, the thing that you described is called faith. And faith is not something that can be proved with science. Real faith comes from within person, and if someone try to explain what faith is to a person that doesnt want to believe in it, there will be a lot of discussion and they wont agree on anything. There are no scientific theory about God and there will never be... but people will still believe in God. Title: Re: After death Post by: Eternu on February 16, 2017, 02:26:02 PM Lol! Name me one scientific theory which admits that God exists. People lied about the existence of different gods and no one has confirmed the existence of at least one of them. You're blind if you believe without evidence. You are wrong my friend. Its not blindness, the thing that you described is called faith. And faith is not something that can be proved with science. Real faith comes from within person, and if someone try to explain what faith is to a person that doesnt want to believe in it, there will be a lot of discussion and they wont agree on anything. There are no scientific theory about God and there will never be... but people will still believe in God. Children believe in some fairy tales and people laugh because that fairy tales are proven to be false. That is why when human grown up they learn what is possible and what is not. There is possibility that God exist and till now it was not proven otherwise. So that is why people still believe in God. But i fear even when science prove that God does not exist, some people will still believe in God... Title: Re: After death Post by: yescopyleftsounds on February 16, 2017, 02:29:41 PM what happens when we die ? i think we just die
Title: Re: After death Post by: wowanstrong on February 16, 2017, 02:38:07 PM what happens when we die ? i think we just die Many who promote life after death refer to the memories of those who were in clinical death. Hence the talk about the tunnel and other stuff. It's all a lie. Just as the human brain is not dead, he can see visions. After the death of the brain death.Title: Re: After death Post by: Tyrantt on February 16, 2017, 03:59:13 PM Lol! Name me one scientific theory which admits that God exists. People lied about the existence of different gods and no one has confirmed the existence of at least one of them. You're blind if you believe without evidence. You are wrong my friend. Its not blindness, the thing that you described is called faith. And faith is not something that can be proved with science. Real faith comes from within person, and if someone try to explain what faith is to a person that doesnt want to believe in it, there will be a lot of discussion and they wont agree on anything. There are no scientific theory about God and there will never be... but people will still believe in God. Well that's where religion is different, it has something that fairy tales don't. Churches, books, legends, stories, saints, etc... and also, fairy tales are wrote as an escape from this reality for kids, nothing else. Religion has some deeper meaning to it. Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on February 16, 2017, 04:23:04 PM Lol! Name me one scientific theory which admits that God exists. People lied about the existence of different gods and no one has confirmed the existence of at least one of them. You're blind if you believe without evidence. You are wrong my friend. Its not blindness, the thing that you described is called faith. And faith is not something that can be proved with science. Real faith comes from within person, and if someone try to explain what faith is to a person that doesnt want to believe in it, there will be a lot of discussion and they wont agree on anything. There are no scientific theory about God and there will never be... but people will still believe in God. Well that's where religion is different, it has something that fairy tales don't. Churches, books, legends, stories, saints, etc... and also, fairy tales are wrote as an escape from this reality for kids, nothing else. Religion has some deeper meaning to it. That's right. Believing in science theory as fact is fairy tales = religion. The churches of science that hold the scientists that believe this way, have spread their theory religion around the world. Science fact, on the other hand, has proven that God exists: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. Further, scientific study of the Bible shows that it is a book that can't exist according to the laws of the way books come into being and are transmitted among people. In addition, the things that the Bible shows us, when studyed in depth, show us that the Bible must be truth. Now that we know by science and nature that God is real, and that the Bible is at least near truth, God and Christianity become reality for us. Science itself blends into a thing that God has provided. Truthful religion is available from God in the Bible. Science theory religion is a failure. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: Tyrantt on February 16, 2017, 05:22:38 PM Lol! Name me one scientific theory which admits that God exists. People lied about the existence of different gods and no one has confirmed the existence of at least one of them. You're blind if you believe without evidence. You are wrong my friend. Its not blindness, the thing that you described is called faith. And faith is not something that can be proved with science. Real faith comes from within person, and if someone try to explain what faith is to a person that doesnt want to believe in it, there will be a lot of discussion and they wont agree on anything. There are no scientific theory about God and there will never be... but people will still believe in God. Well that's where religion is different, it has something that fairy tales don't. Churches, books, legends, stories, saints, etc... and also, fairy tales are wrote as an escape from this reality for kids, nothing else. Religion has some deeper meaning to it. That's right. Believing in science theory as fact is fairy tales = religion. The churches of science that hold the scientists that believe this way, have spread their theory religion around the world. Science fact, on the other hand, has proven that God exists: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. Further, scientific study of the Bible shows that it is a book that can't exist according to the laws of the way books come into being and are transmitted among people. In addition, the things that the Bible shows us, when studyed in depth, show us that the Bible must be truth. Now that we know by science and nature that God is real, and that the Bible is at least near truth, God and Christianity become reality for us. Science itself blends into a thing that God has provided. Truthful religion is available from God in the Bible. Science theory religion is a failure. 8) You haven't changed at all, were gone for some time but now you're back and still posting your own posts as a scientific proof. :D ut I'd ask you not to poison my thread with your posts like those. There are other threads for that, I didn't ask for that kind of opinion here. Thanks. Title: Re: After death Post by: Klima on February 16, 2017, 05:47:54 PM Lol! Name me one scientific theory which admits that God exists. People lied about the existence of different gods and no one has confirmed the existence of at least one of them. You're blind if you believe without evidence. You are wrong my friend. Its not blindness, the thing that you described is called faith. And faith is not something that can be proved with science. Real faith comes from within person, and if someone try to explain what faith is to a person that doesnt want to believe in it, there will be a lot of discussion and they wont agree on anything. There are no scientific theory about God and there will never be... but people will still believe in God. Well that's where religion is different, it has something that fairy tales don't. Churches, books, legends, stories, saints, etc... and also, fairy tales are wrote as an escape from this reality for kids, nothing else. Religion has some deeper meaning to it. That's right. Believing in science theory as fact is fairy tales = religion. The churches of science that hold the scientists that believe this way, have spread their theory religion around the world. Science fact, on the other hand, has proven that God exists: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. Further, scientific study of the Bible shows that it is a book that can't exist according to the laws of the way books come into being and are transmitted among people. In addition, the things that the Bible shows us, when studyed in depth, show us that the Bible must be truth. Now that we know by science and nature that God is real, and that the Bible is at least near truth, God and Christianity become reality for us. Science itself blends into a thing that God has provided. Truthful religion is available from God in the Bible. Science theory religion is a failure. 8) You haven't changed at all, were gone for some time but now you're back and still posting your own posts as a scientific proof. :D ut I'd ask you not to poison my thread with your posts like those. There are other threads for that, I didn't ask for that kind of opinion here. Thanks. Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on February 16, 2017, 11:22:37 PM Lol! Name me one scientific theory which admits that God exists. People lied about the existence of different gods and no one has confirmed the existence of at least one of them. You're blind if you believe without evidence. You are wrong my friend. Its not blindness, the thing that you described is called faith. And faith is not something that can be proved with science. Real faith comes from within person, and if someone try to explain what faith is to a person that doesnt want to believe in it, there will be a lot of discussion and they wont agree on anything. There are no scientific theory about God and there will never be... but people will still believe in God. Well that's where religion is different, it has something that fairy tales don't. Churches, books, legends, stories, saints, etc... and also, fairy tales are wrote as an escape from this reality for kids, nothing else. Religion has some deeper meaning to it. That's right. Believing in science theory as fact is fairy tales = religion. The churches of science that hold the scientists that believe this way, have spread their theory religion around the world. Science fact, on the other hand, has proven that God exists: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. Further, scientific study of the Bible shows that it is a book that can't exist according to the laws of the way books come into being and are transmitted among people. In addition, the things that the Bible shows us, when studyed in depth, show us that the Bible must be truth. Now that we know by science and nature that God is real, and that the Bible is at least near truth, God and Christianity become reality for us. Science itself blends into a thing that God has provided. Truthful religion is available from God in the Bible. Science theory religion is a failure. 8) You haven't changed at all, were gone for some time but now you're back and still posting your own posts as a scientific proof. :D ut I'd ask you not to poison my thread with your posts like those. There are other threads for that, I didn't ask for that kind of opinion here. Thanks. The first response in this thread, my response, at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187756#msg17187756, is a non-religious response. However, nobody can get away from religion... even if it is their own personal religion. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: Tyrantt on February 16, 2017, 11:39:41 PM Lol! Name me one scientific theory which admits that God exists. People lied about the existence of different gods and no one has confirmed the existence of at least one of them. You're blind if you believe without evidence. You are wrong my friend. Its not blindness, the thing that you described is called faith. And faith is not something that can be proved with science. Real faith comes from within person, and if someone try to explain what faith is to a person that doesnt want to believe in it, there will be a lot of discussion and they wont agree on anything. There are no scientific theory about God and there will never be... but people will still believe in God. Well that's where religion is different, it has something that fairy tales don't. Churches, books, legends, stories, saints, etc... and also, fairy tales are wrote as an escape from this reality for kids, nothing else. Religion has some deeper meaning to it. That's right. Believing in science theory as fact is fairy tales = religion. The churches of science that hold the scientists that believe this way, have spread their theory religion around the world. Science fact, on the other hand, has proven that God exists: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. Further, scientific study of the Bible shows that it is a book that can't exist according to the laws of the way books come into being and are transmitted among people. In addition, the things that the Bible shows us, when studyed in depth, show us that the Bible must be truth. Now that we know by science and nature that God is real, and that the Bible is at least near truth, God and Christianity become reality for us. Science itself blends into a thing that God has provided. Truthful religion is available from God in the Bible. Science theory religion is a failure. 8) You haven't changed at all, were gone for some time but now you're back and still posting your own posts as a scientific proof. :D ut I'd ask you not to poison my thread with your posts like those. There are other threads for that, I didn't ask for that kind of opinion here. Thanks. No, his first post was perfect and on point to this topic, but I see there are some arguments over something that I wasn't asking for. I didn't ask for religious thoughts like christian,muslim or hindu, because we're all familiar with those. I'm interested more in some other views on that topic. Title: Re: After death Post by: Gaaara on February 17, 2017, 05:24:00 AM I have always think about what happens after dying, do you even know that you already died or what happens to the memories that lies in you brain would they just vanish after dying or would the memories remain. After death is something a person who died can answer, but after dying there's no chance that a human being can solve this conclusion.
Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on February 17, 2017, 06:39:11 AM I have always think about what happens after dying, do you even know that you already died or what happens to the memories that lies in you brain would they just vanish after dying or would the memories remain. After death is something a person who died can answer, but after dying there's no chance that a human being can solve this conclusion. Science hasn't really found a big spot where memories are stored in the brain. There are places spread out through the brain where some small piles of memories are located. But the big spot hasn't been found. Some people think that there is a spiritual body that contains the true memories. This spiritual body is much larger in its realm than the physical body is in this realm. The spiritual body is the real person, riding in the physical body like people ride in machines. A good movie example of this was the movie Avatar. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: cramcram21 on February 17, 2017, 07:18:25 AM Well I like to think that we would just be born again or reincarnate,
I have watch a documentary about it and some kid's have said that they know something about their past life. Title: Re: After death Post by: stats on February 17, 2017, 12:32:44 PM Lol! Name me one scientific theory which admits that God exists. People lied about the existence of different gods and no one has confirmed the existence of at least one of them. You're blind if you believe without evidence. You are wrong my friend. Its not blindness, the thing that you described is called faith. And faith is not something that can be proved with science. Real faith comes from within person, and if someone try to explain what faith is to a person that doesnt want to believe in it, there will be a lot of discussion and they wont agree on anything. There are no scientific theory about God and there will never be... but people will still believe in God. Well that's where religion is different, it has something that fairy tales don't. Churches, books, legends, stories, saints, etc... and also, fairy tales are wrote as an escape from this reality for kids, nothing else. Religion has some deeper meaning to it. That's right. Believing in science theory as fact is fairy tales = religion. The churches of science that hold the scientists that believe this way, have spread their theory religion around the world. Science fact, on the other hand, has proven that God exists: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. Further, scientific study of the Bible shows that it is a book that can't exist according to the laws of the way books come into being and are transmitted among people. In addition, the things that the Bible shows us, when studyed in depth, show us that the Bible must be truth. Now that we know by science and nature that God is real, and that the Bible is at least near truth, God and Christianity become reality for us. Science itself blends into a thing that God has provided. Truthful religion is available from God in the Bible. Science theory religion is a failure. 8) You haven't changed at all, were gone for some time but now you're back and still posting your own posts as a scientific proof. :D ut I'd ask you not to poison my thread with your posts like those. There are other threads for that, I didn't ask for that kind of opinion here. Thanks. The first response in this thread, my response, at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187756#msg17187756, is a non-religious response. However, nobody can get away from religion... even if it is their own personal religion. 8) And the starting comment asked that no religion thoughts be posted. Fancy that you continue to ignore the polite request by someone to thrash your own beliefs. BADecker you display the characteristics I despise about anyone from religion. You have zero respect for others and do not follow their requests. You are a controlling zealot with total disregard for others. I hope you do not live your life the same way you act on this forum. I really hope you find peace! Title: Re: After death Post by: stats on February 17, 2017, 12:33:51 PM I have always think about what happens after dying, do you even know that you already died or what happens to the memories that lies in you brain would they just vanish after dying or would the memories remain. After death is something a person who died can answer, but after dying there's no chance that a human being can solve this conclusion. Science hasn't really found a big spot where memories are stored in the brain. There are places spread out through the brain where some small piles of memories are located. But the big spot hasn't been found. Some people think that there is a spiritual body that contains the true memories. This spiritual body is much larger in its realm than the physical body is in this realm. The spiritual body is the real person, riding in the physical body like people ride in machines. A good movie example of this was the movie Avatar. 8) What, a fictional story? Yeah I agree. Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on February 17, 2017, 02:14:23 PM Lol! Name me one scientific theory which admits that God exists. People lied about the existence of different gods and no one has confirmed the existence of at least one of them. You're blind if you believe without evidence. You are wrong my friend. Its not blindness, the thing that you described is called faith. And faith is not something that can be proved with science. Real faith comes from within person, and if someone try to explain what faith is to a person that doesnt want to believe in it, there will be a lot of discussion and they wont agree on anything. There are no scientific theory about God and there will never be... but people will still believe in God. Well that's where religion is different, it has something that fairy tales don't. Churches, books, legends, stories, saints, etc... and also, fairy tales are wrote as an escape from this reality for kids, nothing else. Religion has some deeper meaning to it. That's right. Believing in science theory as fact is fairy tales = religion. The churches of science that hold the scientists that believe this way, have spread their theory religion around the world. Science fact, on the other hand, has proven that God exists: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. Further, scientific study of the Bible shows that it is a book that can't exist according to the laws of the way books come into being and are transmitted among people. In addition, the things that the Bible shows us, when studyed in depth, show us that the Bible must be truth. Now that we know by science and nature that God is real, and that the Bible is at least near truth, God and Christianity become reality for us. Science itself blends into a thing that God has provided. Truthful religion is available from God in the Bible. Science theory religion is a failure. 8) You haven't changed at all, were gone for some time but now you're back and still posting your own posts as a scientific proof. :D ut I'd ask you not to poison my thread with your posts like those. There are other threads for that, I didn't ask for that kind of opinion here. Thanks. The first response in this thread, my response, at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187756#msg17187756, is a non-religious response. However, nobody can get away from religion... even if it is their own personal religion. 8) And the starting comment asked that no religion thoughts be posted. Fancy that you continue to ignore the polite request by someone to thrash your own beliefs. BADecker you display the characteristics I despise about anyone from religion. You have zero respect for others and do not follow their requests. You are a controlling zealot with total disregard for others. I hope you do not live your life the same way you act on this forum. I really hope you find peace! There you go, posting some of your personal religious thoughts again. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on February 17, 2017, 02:15:58 PM I have always think about what happens after dying, do you even know that you already died or what happens to the memories that lies in you brain would they just vanish after dying or would the memories remain. After death is something a person who died can answer, but after dying there's no chance that a human being can solve this conclusion. Science hasn't really found a big spot where memories are stored in the brain. There are places spread out through the brain where some small piles of memories are located. But the big spot hasn't been found. Some people think that there is a spiritual body that contains the true memories. This spiritual body is much larger in its realm than the physical body is in this realm. The spiritual body is the real person, riding in the physical body like people ride in machines. A good movie example of this was the movie Avatar. 8) What, a fictional story? Yeah I agree. Avatar was a good example. Star Wars war machines are another. Thanks. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: Eternu on February 17, 2017, 08:04:04 PM I have always think about what happens after dying, do you even know that you already died or what happens to the memories that lies in you brain would they just vanish after dying or would the memories remain. After death is something a person who died can answer, but after dying there's no chance that a human being can solve this conclusion. Science hasn't really found a big spot where memories are stored in the brain. There are places spread out through the brain where some small piles of memories are located. But the big spot hasn't been found. Some people think that there is a spiritual body that contains the true memories. This spiritual body is much larger in its realm than the physical body is in this realm. The spiritual body is the real person, riding in the physical body like people ride in machines. A good movie example of this was the movie Avatar. 8) What, a fictional story? Yeah I agree. Avatar was a good example. Star Wars war machines are another. Thanks. 8) Robots from Star Wars... Hmm if you think on that stupid trooper robots from Episode One, that thanks but no thanks XD . I would rather die that turn into that thing XD . Maybe it would be nice if Force exist. Whole Jedi view of things, Force everywhere. In every living thing, just like Jedi code said There is no death, there is the Force . :D Well that would be cool :D . Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on February 17, 2017, 08:32:47 PM I have always think about what happens after dying, do you even know that you already died or what happens to the memories that lies in you brain would they just vanish after dying or would the memories remain. After death is something a person who died can answer, but after dying there's no chance that a human being can solve this conclusion. Science hasn't really found a big spot where memories are stored in the brain. There are places spread out through the brain where some small piles of memories are located. But the big spot hasn't been found. Some people think that there is a spiritual body that contains the true memories. This spiritual body is much larger in its realm than the physical body is in this realm. The spiritual body is the real person, riding in the physical body like people ride in machines. A good movie example of this was the movie Avatar. 8) What, a fictional story? Yeah I agree. Avatar was a good example. Star Wars war machines are another. Thanks. 8) Robots from Star Wars... Hmm if you think on that stupid trooper robots from Episode One, that thanks but no thanks XD . I would rather die that turn into that thing XD . Maybe it would be nice if Force exist. Whole Jedi view of things, Force everywhere. In every living thing, just like Jedi code said There is no death, there is the Force . :D Well that would be cool :D . The point is, our bodies are like almost infinitely more complex machines. Our spirits ride in our body machines, controlling them like storm troupers controlled their humanoid, robot-like machines that they rode in. It's all way more complex than science has come close to figuring out. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: WCAMN on February 17, 2017, 08:56:28 PM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. EDIT: This question refers more the philosophical view on the period after ones death, so please keep the hc religious beliefs or non-religious away from this thread, tho there are already a few. Thank you. I think that our brains are somekind of receptors. What do they receive exactly? It's the soul, but in some form of data, or even energy. So when the brain is created and a person is born, the brain acts as a receptor and receives the necessary data for the soul. After dying, the brain stops working, and the soul comes out, because the brain can no longer store it. What happens next is a mystery. The data may go to another brain, but without the original memories (thus reincarnation), or it might become somekind of energy and be lost in the vast universe. Well, this is just what I like to think. :) Title: Re: After death Post by: stats on February 17, 2017, 11:48:53 PM I have always think about what happens after dying, do you even know that you already died or what happens to the memories that lies in you brain would they just vanish after dying or would the memories remain. After death is something a person who died can answer, but after dying there's no chance that a human being can solve this conclusion. Science hasn't really found a big spot where memories are stored in the brain. There are places spread out through the brain where some small piles of memories are located. But the big spot hasn't been found. Some people think that there is a spiritual body that contains the true memories. This spiritual body is much larger in its realm than the physical body is in this realm. The spiritual body is the real person, riding in the physical body like people ride in machines. A good movie example of this was the movie Avatar. 8) What, a fictional story? Yeah I agree. Avatar was a good example. Star Wars war machines are another. Thanks. 8) Robots from Star Wars... Hmm if you think on that stupid trooper robots from Episode One, that thanks but no thanks XD . I would rather die that turn into that thing XD . Maybe it would be nice if Force exist. Whole Jedi view of things, Force everywhere. In every living thing, just like Jedi code said There is no death, there is the Force . :D Well that would be cool :D . The point is, our bodies are like almost infinitely more complex machines. Our spirits ride in our body machines, controlling them like storm troupers controlled their humanoid, robot-like machines that they rode in. It's all way more complex than science has come close to figuring out. 8) The initial poster highlighted the fact you went against what he asked for you not to do and you still go on. BADecker (chuckles) I initially enjoyed our discussions, however, you have now proven you are nothing more than a serial Troll. You ignore requests for no religious points and push your own agenda. Show some respect please and have the decency to allow a topic to progress without your need to attempt to indoctrinate others. Title: Re: After death Post by: dylanc on February 18, 2017, 02:32:50 AM Most likely nothing happens to you after you die. Just nothingness.
Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on February 18, 2017, 03:04:28 AM I have always think about what happens after dying, do you even know that you already died or what happens to the memories that lies in you brain would they just vanish after dying or would the memories remain. After death is something a person who died can answer, but after dying there's no chance that a human being can solve this conclusion. Science hasn't really found a big spot where memories are stored in the brain. There are places spread out through the brain where some small piles of memories are located. But the big spot hasn't been found. Some people think that there is a spiritual body that contains the true memories. This spiritual body is much larger in its realm than the physical body is in this realm. The spiritual body is the real person, riding in the physical body like people ride in machines. A good movie example of this was the movie Avatar. 8) What, a fictional story? Yeah I agree. Avatar was a good example. Star Wars war machines are another. Thanks. 8) Robots from Star Wars... Hmm if you think on that stupid trooper robots from Episode One, that thanks but no thanks XD . I would rather die that turn into that thing XD . Maybe it would be nice if Force exist. Whole Jedi view of things, Force everywhere. In every living thing, just like Jedi code said There is no death, there is the Force . :D Well that would be cool :D . The point is, our bodies are like almost infinitely more complex machines. Our spirits ride in our body machines, controlling them like storm troupers controlled their humanoid, robot-like machines that they rode in. It's all way more complex than science has come close to figuring out. 8) The initial poster highlighted the fact you went against what he asked for you not to do and you still go on. BADecker (chuckles) I initially enjoyed our discussions, however, you have now proven you are nothing more than a serial Troll. You ignore requests for no religious points and push your own agenda. Show some respect please and have the decency to allow a topic to progress without your need to attempt to indoctrinate others. He also highlighted the fact that I remained within his requests. So I go on. But what are you doing with your post that doesn't do anything to further the "after death" discussion, but only attempts to pick on me? You have a problem. You can't find anything wrong in what I say. You can't rebut my facts. So you attempt to demean my character... mostly with direct lies. Start to realize that the things that I post are for the most part truth. Check out what I said about after death... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187756#msg17187756. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: Altas on February 18, 2017, 05:55:22 AM Within the Christian faith, there is a significant amount of confusion regarding what happens after death. Some hold that after death, everyone “sleeps” until the final judgment, after which everyone will be sent to heaven or hell. Others believe that at the moment of death, people are instantly judged and sent to their eternal destinations. Still others claim that when people die, their souls/spirits are sent to a “temporary” heaven or hell, to await the final resurrection, the final judgment, and then the finality of their eternal destination. So far no one knows what happens after death. Still religious people and scientists speak of death without any proof/ evidence.
Title: Re: After death Post by: stats on February 18, 2017, 03:42:06 PM I have always think about what happens after dying, do you even know that you already died or what happens to the memories that lies in you brain would they just vanish after dying or would the memories remain. After death is something a person who died can answer, but after dying there's no chance that a human being can solve this conclusion. Science hasn't really found a big spot where memories are stored in the brain. There are places spread out through the brain where some small piles of memories are located. But the big spot hasn't been found. Some people think that there is a spiritual body that contains the true memories. This spiritual body is much larger in its realm than the physical body is in this realm. The spiritual body is the real person, riding in the physical body like people ride in machines. A good movie example of this was the movie Avatar. 8) What, a fictional story? Yeah I agree. Avatar was a good example. Star Wars war machines are another. Thanks. 8) Robots from Star Wars... Hmm if you think on that stupid trooper robots from Episode One, that thanks but no thanks XD . I would rather die that turn into that thing XD . Maybe it would be nice if Force exist. Whole Jedi view of things, Force everywhere. In every living thing, just like Jedi code said There is no death, there is the Force . :D Well that would be cool :D . The point is, our bodies are like almost infinitely more complex machines. Our spirits ride in our body machines, controlling them like storm troupers controlled their humanoid, robot-like machines that they rode in. It's all way more complex than science has come close to figuring out. 8) The initial poster highlighted the fact you went against what he asked for you not to do and you still go on. BADecker (chuckles) I initially enjoyed our discussions, however, you have now proven you are nothing more than a serial Troll. You ignore requests for no religious points and push your own agenda. Show some respect please and have the decency to allow a topic to progress without your need to attempt to indoctrinate others. He also highlighted the fact that I remained within his requests. So I go on. But what are you doing with your post that doesn't do anything to further the "after death" discussion, but only attempts to pick on me? You have a problem. You can't find anything wrong in what I say. You can't rebut my facts. So you attempt to demean my character... mostly with direct lies. Start to realize that the things that I post are for the most part truth. Check out what I said about after death... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187756#msg17187756. 8) I checked it out and sorry Chuckles but you totally ignored the request. Now check out the original post..... He has asked for you not to discuss the christian or muslim belief. So what do you do..... sprout your crap. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187572#msg17187572 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187572#msg17187572) All I do is highlight your rudeness and your one minded philosophy of crap. That shouldn't worry you but for some reason it does. If you don't want me to comment, then I suggest we both drop the religious discussion and allow this thread to be about "non-religious" aspects and thoughts of after death. I know I can do that.... but can you? Title: Re: After death Post by: dream4 on February 18, 2017, 03:47:42 PM We are eternal. The death theory is all about control.
When you play the game right there is no death (in the physical form) :) Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on February 18, 2017, 04:35:46 PM I have always think about what happens after dying, do you even know that you already died or what happens to the memories that lies in you brain would they just vanish after dying or would the memories remain. After death is something a person who died can answer, but after dying there's no chance that a human being can solve this conclusion. Science hasn't really found a big spot where memories are stored in the brain. There are places spread out through the brain where some small piles of memories are located. But the big spot hasn't been found. Some people think that there is a spiritual body that contains the true memories. This spiritual body is much larger in its realm than the physical body is in this realm. The spiritual body is the real person, riding in the physical body like people ride in machines. A good movie example of this was the movie Avatar. 8) What, a fictional story? Yeah I agree. Avatar was a good example. Star Wars war machines are another. Thanks. 8) Robots from Star Wars... Hmm if you think on that stupid trooper robots from Episode One, that thanks but no thanks XD . I would rather die that turn into that thing XD . Maybe it would be nice if Force exist. Whole Jedi view of things, Force everywhere. In every living thing, just like Jedi code said There is no death, there is the Force . :D Well that would be cool :D . The point is, our bodies are like almost infinitely more complex machines. Our spirits ride in our body machines, controlling them like storm troupers controlled their humanoid, robot-like machines that they rode in. It's all way more complex than science has come close to figuring out. 8) The initial poster highlighted the fact you went against what he asked for you not to do and you still go on. BADecker (chuckles) I initially enjoyed our discussions, however, you have now proven you are nothing more than a serial Troll. You ignore requests for no religious points and push your own agenda. Show some respect please and have the decency to allow a topic to progress without your need to attempt to indoctrinate others. He also highlighted the fact that I remained within his requests. So I go on. But what are you doing with your post that doesn't do anything to further the "after death" discussion, but only attempts to pick on me? You have a problem. You can't find anything wrong in what I say. You can't rebut my facts. So you attempt to demean my character... mostly with direct lies. Start to realize that the things that I post are for the most part truth. Check out what I said about after death... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187756#msg17187756. 8) I checked it out and sorry Chuckles but you totally ignored the request. Now check out the original post..... He has asked for you not to discuss the christian or muslim belief. So what do you do..... sprout your crap. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187572#msg17187572 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187572#msg17187572) All I do is highlight your rudeness and your one minded philosophy of crap. That shouldn't worry you but for some reason it does. If you don't want me to comment, then I suggest we both drop the religious discussion and allow this thread to be about "non-religious" aspects and thoughts of after death. I know I can do that.... but can you? You are speaking about yourself ^^^, not me. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: stats on February 18, 2017, 04:59:04 PM I have always think about what happens after dying, do you even know that you already died or what happens to the memories that lies in you brain would they just vanish after dying or would the memories remain. After death is something a person who died can answer, but after dying there's no chance that a human being can solve this conclusion. Science hasn't really found a big spot where memories are stored in the brain. There are places spread out through the brain where some small piles of memories are located. But the big spot hasn't been found. Some people think that there is a spiritual body that contains the true memories. This spiritual body is much larger in its realm than the physical body is in this realm. The spiritual body is the real person, riding in the physical body like people ride in machines. A good movie example of this was the movie Avatar. 8) What, a fictional story? Yeah I agree. Avatar was a good example. Star Wars war machines are another. Thanks. 8) Robots from Star Wars... Hmm if you think on that stupid trooper robots from Episode One, that thanks but no thanks XD . I would rather die that turn into that thing XD . Maybe it would be nice if Force exist. Whole Jedi view of things, Force everywhere. In every living thing, just like Jedi code said There is no death, there is the Force . :D Well that would be cool :D . The point is, our bodies are like almost infinitely more complex machines. Our spirits ride in our body machines, controlling them like storm troupers controlled their humanoid, robot-like machines that they rode in. It's all way more complex than science has come close to figuring out. 8) The initial poster highlighted the fact you went against what he asked for you not to do and you still go on. BADecker (chuckles) I initially enjoyed our discussions, however, you have now proven you are nothing more than a serial Troll. You ignore requests for no religious points and push your own agenda. Show some respect please and have the decency to allow a topic to progress without your need to attempt to indoctrinate others. He also highlighted the fact that I remained within his requests. So I go on. But what are you doing with your post that doesn't do anything to further the "after death" discussion, but only attempts to pick on me? You have a problem. You can't find anything wrong in what I say. You can't rebut my facts. So you attempt to demean my character... mostly with direct lies. Start to realize that the things that I post are for the most part truth. Check out what I said about after death... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187756#msg17187756. 8) I checked it out and sorry Chuckles but you totally ignored the request. Now check out the original post..... He has asked for you not to discuss the christian or muslim belief. So what do you do..... sprout your crap. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187572#msg17187572 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187572#msg17187572) All I do is highlight your rudeness and your one minded philosophy of crap. That shouldn't worry you but for some reason it does. If you don't want me to comment, then I suggest we both drop the religious discussion and allow this thread to be about "non-religious" aspects and thoughts of after death. I know I can do that.... but can you? You are speaking about yourself ^^^, not me. 8) No.... it's about you. So we have an agreement. This topic is about non-religious thoughts and ideas. Good working with you! Title: Re: After death Post by: Altas on February 18, 2017, 05:06:34 PM We have body and soul. After death our soul will come out from our crass body. Some philosophers say after death our soul will be vanished. some say that our soul has eternal life so after death it will to the eternal world. Some religions like Hinduism believe that after death our soul will take next birth. Whatever maybe we do not know about our death and the things happen after death.
Title: Re: After death Post by: bryant.coleman on February 18, 2017, 05:46:22 PM We have body and soul. After death our soul will come out from our crass body. Some philosophers say after death our soul will be vanished. some say that our soul has eternal life so after death it will to the eternal world. Some religions like Hinduism believe that after death our soul will take next birth. Whatever maybe we do not know about our death and the things happen after death. Religions propagate such unsubstantiated myths, to make their adherents slaves to the faith. They will say that if you don't donate money to the temple or the church or the mosque, then you will be reborn as an animal. The reason for coming up with this garbage is very clear. They instill a sense of fear in the minds of the retarded religious followers. Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on February 18, 2017, 09:46:06 PM I have always think about what happens after dying, do you even know that you already died or what happens to the memories that lies in you brain would they just vanish after dying or would the memories remain. After death is something a person who died can answer, but after dying there's no chance that a human being can solve this conclusion. Science hasn't really found a big spot where memories are stored in the brain. There are places spread out through the brain where some small piles of memories are located. But the big spot hasn't been found. Some people think that there is a spiritual body that contains the true memories. This spiritual body is much larger in its realm than the physical body is in this realm. The spiritual body is the real person, riding in the physical body like people ride in machines. A good movie example of this was the movie Avatar. 8) What, a fictional story? Yeah I agree. Avatar was a good example. Star Wars war machines are another. Thanks. 8) Robots from Star Wars... Hmm if you think on that stupid trooper robots from Episode One, that thanks but no thanks XD . I would rather die that turn into that thing XD . Maybe it would be nice if Force exist. Whole Jedi view of things, Force everywhere. In every living thing, just like Jedi code said There is no death, there is the Force . :D Well that would be cool :D . The point is, our bodies are like almost infinitely more complex machines. Our spirits ride in our body machines, controlling them like storm troupers controlled their humanoid, robot-like machines that they rode in. It's all way more complex than science has come close to figuring out. 8) The initial poster highlighted the fact you went against what he asked for you not to do and you still go on. BADecker (chuckles) I initially enjoyed our discussions, however, you have now proven you are nothing more than a serial Troll. You ignore requests for no religious points and push your own agenda. Show some respect please and have the decency to allow a topic to progress without your need to attempt to indoctrinate others. He also highlighted the fact that I remained within his requests. So I go on. But what are you doing with your post that doesn't do anything to further the "after death" discussion, but only attempts to pick on me? You have a problem. You can't find anything wrong in what I say. You can't rebut my facts. So you attempt to demean my character... mostly with direct lies. Start to realize that the things that I post are for the most part truth. Check out what I said about after death... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187756#msg17187756. 8) I checked it out and sorry Chuckles but you totally ignored the request. Now check out the original post..... He has asked for you not to discuss the christian or muslim belief. So what do you do..... sprout your crap. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187572#msg17187572 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187572#msg17187572) All I do is highlight your rudeness and your one minded philosophy of crap. That shouldn't worry you but for some reason it does. If you don't want me to comment, then I suggest we both drop the religious discussion and allow this thread to be about "non-religious" aspects and thoughts of after death. I know I can do that.... but can you? You are speaking about yourself ^^^, not me. 8) No.... it's about you. So we have an agreement. This topic is about non-religious thoughts and ideas. Good working with you! Why do you bring up such a minor agreement? Of course all thoughts and ideas that are unsubstantiated are non-religious until they are thought about. Then they become a part of the religion of the thinker, one way or the other, believed or not believed... at least until they are substantiated. The thing that we are talking about is the proof... proof for the existence of God. No religion there. Only knowledge. Of course, there are people who won't look at the proof for fear that God just might be real. They would rather keep their knowledge of God in a religious position where they can believe or not believe about God. Religion following the proof starts for some people when they believe or don't believe the things that God says... and in some cases, that God even says things. Once a person understands that God exists, his next step would be to understand the proof that the Bible is the Word of God. Then he can start to believe in the things that the Bible says... often things for which there will never be any proof before the Judgment Day. Proof that the Bible is the Word of God is secondary to what we are discussing. Let's get the proof for the existence of God clearly embedded within ourselves. Then we can tackle the proof that the Bible is the Word of God. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on February 18, 2017, 09:50:02 PM We have body and soul. After death our soul will come out from our crass body. Some philosophers say after death our soul will be vanished. some say that our soul has eternal life so after death it will to the eternal world. Some religions like Hinduism believe that after death our soul will take next birth. Whatever maybe we do not know about our death and the things happen after death. Religions propagate such unsubstantiated myths, to make their adherents slaves to the faith. I like that line^^^. That's exactly what scientists, science media, and universities do when they talk about science theory as though it were fact. These religious entities are becoming stronger and stronger among the lay people of today. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: FlightyPouch on February 18, 2017, 10:39:28 PM I think the religions are the one responsible for these matter. They opened the minds of the people to death and reincarnation which noone really knows.
They say that there will be a god waiting above or whatsoever but for me, dying will be nust the end of my precious life, im not expecting it to be early or late though when it comes, it cant be avoided. The excitement of dying is knowing something that other people know, it is obviously what happens when someone died. Title: Re: After death Post by: stats on February 19, 2017, 02:18:46 AM I have always think about what happens after dying, do you even know that you already died or what happens to the memories that lies in you brain would they just vanish after dying or would the memories remain. After death is something a person who died can answer, but after dying there's no chance that a human being can solve this conclusion. Science hasn't really found a big spot where memories are stored in the brain. There are places spread out through the brain where some small piles of memories are located. But the big spot hasn't been found. Some people think that there is a spiritual body that contains the true memories. This spiritual body is much larger in its realm than the physical body is in this realm. The spiritual body is the real person, riding in the physical body like people ride in machines. A good movie example of this was the movie Avatar. 8) What, a fictional story? Yeah I agree. Avatar was a good example. Star Wars war machines are another. Thanks. 8) Robots from Star Wars... Hmm if you think on that stupid trooper robots from Episode One, that thanks but no thanks XD . I would rather die that turn into that thing XD . Maybe it would be nice if Force exist. Whole Jedi view of things, Force everywhere. In every living thing, just like Jedi code said There is no death, there is the Force . :D Well that would be cool :D . The point is, our bodies are like almost infinitely more complex machines. Our spirits ride in our body machines, controlling them like storm troupers controlled their humanoid, robot-like machines that they rode in. It's all way more complex than science has come close to figuring out. 8) The initial poster highlighted the fact you went against what he asked for you not to do and you still go on. BADecker (chuckles) I initially enjoyed our discussions, however, you have now proven you are nothing more than a serial Troll. You ignore requests for no religious points and push your own agenda. Show some respect please and have the decency to allow a topic to progress without your need to attempt to indoctrinate others. He also highlighted the fact that I remained within his requests. So I go on. But what are you doing with your post that doesn't do anything to further the "after death" discussion, but only attempts to pick on me? You have a problem. You can't find anything wrong in what I say. You can't rebut my facts. So you attempt to demean my character... mostly with direct lies. Start to realize that the things that I post are for the most part truth. Check out what I said about after death... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187756#msg17187756. 8) I checked it out and sorry Chuckles but you totally ignored the request. Now check out the original post..... He has asked for you not to discuss the christian or muslim belief. So what do you do..... sprout your crap. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187572#msg17187572 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187572#msg17187572) All I do is highlight your rudeness and your one minded philosophy of crap. That shouldn't worry you but for some reason it does. If you don't want me to comment, then I suggest we both drop the religious discussion and allow this thread to be about "non-religious" aspects and thoughts of after death. I know I can do that.... but can you? You are speaking about yourself ^^^, not me. 8) No.... it's about you. So we have an agreement. This topic is about non-religious thoughts and ideas. Good working with you! Why do you bring up such a minor agreement? Of course all thoughts and ideas that are unsubstantiated are non-religious until they are thought about. Then they become a part of the religion of the thinker, one way or the other, believed or not believed... at least until they are substantiated. The thing that we are talking about is the proof... proof for the existence of God. No religion there. Only knowledge. Of course, there are people who won't look at the proof for fear that God just might be real. They would rather keep their knowledge of God in a religious position where they can believe or not believe about God. Religion following the proof starts for some people when they believe or don't believe the things that God says... and in some cases, that God even says things. Once a person understands that God exists, his next step would be to understand the proof that the Bible is the Word of God. Then he can start to believe in the things that the Bible says... often things for which there will never be any proof before the Judgment Day. Proof that the Bible is the Word of God is secondary to what we are discussing. Let's get the proof for the existence of God clearly embedded within ourselves. Then we can tackle the proof that the Bible is the Word of God. 8) Thank you Chuckles..... you have proven my point you are a self righteous, egocentric individual who pushes his own agenda even when asked not to. That alone is enough to drive people to the truth of "There is no God". You appear to be desperate to prove your point. Good luck squire. Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on February 19, 2017, 02:59:42 AM I have always think about what happens after dying, do you even know that you already died or what happens to the memories that lies in you brain would they just vanish after dying or would the memories remain. After death is something a person who died can answer, but after dying there's no chance that a human being can solve this conclusion. Science hasn't really found a big spot where memories are stored in the brain. There are places spread out through the brain where some small piles of memories are located. But the big spot hasn't been found. Some people think that there is a spiritual body that contains the true memories. This spiritual body is much larger in its realm than the physical body is in this realm. The spiritual body is the real person, riding in the physical body like people ride in machines. A good movie example of this was the movie Avatar. 8) What, a fictional story? Yeah I agree. Avatar was a good example. Star Wars war machines are another. Thanks. 8) Robots from Star Wars... Hmm if you think on that stupid trooper robots from Episode One, that thanks but no thanks XD . I would rather die that turn into that thing XD . Maybe it would be nice if Force exist. Whole Jedi view of things, Force everywhere. In every living thing, just like Jedi code said There is no death, there is the Force . :D Well that would be cool :D . The point is, our bodies are like almost infinitely more complex machines. Our spirits ride in our body machines, controlling them like storm troupers controlled their humanoid, robot-like machines that they rode in. It's all way more complex than science has come close to figuring out. 8) The initial poster highlighted the fact you went against what he asked for you not to do and you still go on. BADecker (chuckles) I initially enjoyed our discussions, however, you have now proven you are nothing more than a serial Troll. You ignore requests for no religious points and push your own agenda. Show some respect please and have the decency to allow a topic to progress without your need to attempt to indoctrinate others. He also highlighted the fact that I remained within his requests. So I go on. But what are you doing with your post that doesn't do anything to further the "after death" discussion, but only attempts to pick on me? You have a problem. You can't find anything wrong in what I say. You can't rebut my facts. So you attempt to demean my character... mostly with direct lies. Start to realize that the things that I post are for the most part truth. Check out what I said about after death... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187756#msg17187756. 8) I checked it out and sorry Chuckles but you totally ignored the request. Now check out the original post..... He has asked for you not to discuss the christian or muslim belief. So what do you do..... sprout your crap. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187572#msg17187572 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187572#msg17187572) All I do is highlight your rudeness and your one minded philosophy of crap. That shouldn't worry you but for some reason it does. If you don't want me to comment, then I suggest we both drop the religious discussion and allow this thread to be about "non-religious" aspects and thoughts of after death. I know I can do that.... but can you? You are speaking about yourself ^^^, not me. 8) No.... it's about you. So we have an agreement. This topic is about non-religious thoughts and ideas. Good working with you! Why do you bring up such a minor agreement? Of course all thoughts and ideas that are unsubstantiated are non-religious until they are thought about. Then they become a part of the religion of the thinker, one way or the other, believed or not believed... at least until they are substantiated. The thing that we are talking about is the proof... proof for the existence of God. No religion there. Only knowledge. Of course, there are people who won't look at the proof for fear that God just might be real. They would rather keep their knowledge of God in a religious position where they can believe or not believe about God. Religion following the proof starts for some people when they believe or don't believe the things that God says... and in some cases, that God even says things. Once a person understands that God exists, his next step would be to understand the proof that the Bible is the Word of God. Then he can start to believe in the things that the Bible says... often things for which there will never be any proof before the Judgment Day. Proof that the Bible is the Word of God is secondary to what we are discussing. Let's get the proof for the existence of God clearly embedded within ourselves. Then we can tackle the proof that the Bible is the Word of God. 8) Thank you Chuckles..... you have proven my point you are a self righteous, egocentric individual who pushes his own agenda even when asked not to. That alone is enough to drive people to the truth of "There is no God". You appear to be desperate to prove your point. Good luck squire. LOL! You are so funny. Listen to you. I have science facts on my side. And you can't even bring any up. In fact, you probably wouldn't know how to rebut anything even if it were not fact. All you have is hot air. The fact that God exists has been scientifically proven long ago. I simply point out how. However, thanks for blowing your hot air around. Doing so only serves to strengthen the fact of God's existence in the minds of those who are open to science. Keep it up. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: stats on February 19, 2017, 06:32:50 AM I have always think about what happens after dying, do you even know that you already died or what happens to the memories that lies in you brain would they just vanish after dying or would the memories remain. After death is something a person who died can answer, but after dying there's no chance that a human being can solve this conclusion. Science hasn't really found a big spot where memories are stored in the brain. There are places spread out through the brain where some small piles of memories are located. But the big spot hasn't been found. Some people think that there is a spiritual body that contains the true memories. This spiritual body is much larger in its realm than the physical body is in this realm. The spiritual body is the real person, riding in the physical body like people ride in machines. A good movie example of this was the movie Avatar. 8) What, a fictional story? Yeah I agree. Avatar was a good example. Star Wars war machines are another. Thanks. 8) Robots from Star Wars... Hmm if you think on that stupid trooper robots from Episode One, that thanks but no thanks XD . I would rather die that turn into that thing XD . Maybe it would be nice if Force exist. Whole Jedi view of things, Force everywhere. In every living thing, just like Jedi code said There is no death, there is the Force . :D Well that would be cool :D . The point is, our bodies are like almost infinitely more complex machines. Our spirits ride in our body machines, controlling them like storm troupers controlled their humanoid, robot-like machines that they rode in. It's all way more complex than science has come close to figuring out. 8) The initial poster highlighted the fact you went against what he asked for you not to do and you still go on. BADecker (chuckles) I initially enjoyed our discussions, however, you have now proven you are nothing more than a serial Troll. You ignore requests for no religious points and push your own agenda. Show some respect please and have the decency to allow a topic to progress without your need to attempt to indoctrinate others. He also highlighted the fact that I remained within his requests. So I go on. But what are you doing with your post that doesn't do anything to further the "after death" discussion, but only attempts to pick on me? You have a problem. You can't find anything wrong in what I say. You can't rebut my facts. So you attempt to demean my character... mostly with direct lies. Start to realize that the things that I post are for the most part truth. Check out what I said about after death... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187756#msg17187756. 8) I checked it out and sorry Chuckles but you totally ignored the request. Now check out the original post..... He has asked for you not to discuss the christian or muslim belief. So what do you do..... sprout your crap. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187572#msg17187572 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187572#msg17187572) All I do is highlight your rudeness and your one minded philosophy of crap. That shouldn't worry you but for some reason it does. If you don't want me to comment, then I suggest we both drop the religious discussion and allow this thread to be about "non-religious" aspects and thoughts of after death. I know I can do that.... but can you? You are speaking about yourself ^^^, not me. 8) No.... it's about you. So we have an agreement. This topic is about non-religious thoughts and ideas. Good working with you! Why do you bring up such a minor agreement? Of course all thoughts and ideas that are unsubstantiated are non-religious until they are thought about. Then they become a part of the religion of the thinker, one way or the other, believed or not believed... at least until they are substantiated. The thing that we are talking about is the proof... proof for the existence of God. No religion there. Only knowledge. Of course, there are people who won't look at the proof for fear that God just might be real. They would rather keep their knowledge of God in a religious position where they can believe or not believe about God. Religion following the proof starts for some people when they believe or don't believe the things that God says... and in some cases, that God even says things. Once a person understands that God exists, his next step would be to understand the proof that the Bible is the Word of God. Then he can start to believe in the things that the Bible says... often things for which there will never be any proof before the Judgment Day. Proof that the Bible is the Word of God is secondary to what we are discussing. Let's get the proof for the existence of God clearly embedded within ourselves. Then we can tackle the proof that the Bible is the Word of God. 8) Thank you Chuckles..... you have proven my point you are a self righteous, egocentric individual who pushes his own agenda even when asked not to. That alone is enough to drive people to the truth of "There is no God". You appear to be desperate to prove your point. Good luck squire. LOL! You are so funny. Listen to you. I have science facts on my side. And you can't even bring any up. In fact, you probably wouldn't know how to rebut anything even if it were not fact. All you have is hot air. The fact that God exists has been scientifically proven long ago. I simply point out how. However, thanks for blowing your hot air around. Doing so only serves to strengthen the fact of God's existence in the minds of those who are open to science. Keep it up. 8) Hmmm lets look at the way you argue points. 1. Following the words of the bible - BADecker says that by not following the words of the bible exactly, is following the bible..... WTF? 2. By saying that because the Universe cannot be proved as a big bang, therefore he assumes that a God has created it......WTF? Sorry squire.... that is not science fact, that is delusion. Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on February 19, 2017, 07:49:47 PM I have always think about what happens after dying, do you even know that you already died or what happens to the memories that lies in you brain would they just vanish after dying or would the memories remain. After death is something a person who died can answer, but after dying there's no chance that a human being can solve this conclusion. Science hasn't really found a big spot where memories are stored in the brain. There are places spread out through the brain where some small piles of memories are located. But the big spot hasn't been found. Some people think that there is a spiritual body that contains the true memories. This spiritual body is much larger in its realm than the physical body is in this realm. The spiritual body is the real person, riding in the physical body like people ride in machines. A good movie example of this was the movie Avatar. 8) What, a fictional story? Yeah I agree. Avatar was a good example. Star Wars war machines are another. Thanks. 8) Robots from Star Wars... Hmm if you think on that stupid trooper robots from Episode One, that thanks but no thanks XD . I would rather die that turn into that thing XD . Maybe it would be nice if Force exist. Whole Jedi view of things, Force everywhere. In every living thing, just like Jedi code said There is no death, there is the Force . :D Well that would be cool :D . The point is, our bodies are like almost infinitely more complex machines. Our spirits ride in our body machines, controlling them like storm troupers controlled their humanoid, robot-like machines that they rode in. It's all way more complex than science has come close to figuring out. 8) The initial poster highlighted the fact you went against what he asked for you not to do and you still go on. BADecker (chuckles) I initially enjoyed our discussions, however, you have now proven you are nothing more than a serial Troll. You ignore requests for no religious points and push your own agenda. Show some respect please and have the decency to allow a topic to progress without your need to attempt to indoctrinate others. He also highlighted the fact that I remained within his requests. So I go on. But what are you doing with your post that doesn't do anything to further the "after death" discussion, but only attempts to pick on me? You have a problem. You can't find anything wrong in what I say. You can't rebut my facts. So you attempt to demean my character... mostly with direct lies. Start to realize that the things that I post are for the most part truth. Check out what I said about after death... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187756#msg17187756. 8) I checked it out and sorry Chuckles but you totally ignored the request. Now check out the original post..... He has asked for you not to discuss the christian or muslim belief. So what do you do..... sprout your crap. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187572#msg17187572 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187572#msg17187572) All I do is highlight your rudeness and your one minded philosophy of crap. That shouldn't worry you but for some reason it does. If you don't want me to comment, then I suggest we both drop the religious discussion and allow this thread to be about "non-religious" aspects and thoughts of after death. I know I can do that.... but can you? You are speaking about yourself ^^^, not me. 8) No.... it's about you. So we have an agreement. This topic is about non-religious thoughts and ideas. Good working with you! Why do you bring up such a minor agreement? Of course all thoughts and ideas that are unsubstantiated are non-religious until they are thought about. Then they become a part of the religion of the thinker, one way or the other, believed or not believed... at least until they are substantiated. The thing that we are talking about is the proof... proof for the existence of God. No religion there. Only knowledge. Of course, there are people who won't look at the proof for fear that God just might be real. They would rather keep their knowledge of God in a religious position where they can believe or not believe about God. Religion following the proof starts for some people when they believe or don't believe the things that God says... and in some cases, that God even says things. Once a person understands that God exists, his next step would be to understand the proof that the Bible is the Word of God. Then he can start to believe in the things that the Bible says... often things for which there will never be any proof before the Judgment Day. Proof that the Bible is the Word of God is secondary to what we are discussing. Let's get the proof for the existence of God clearly embedded within ourselves. Then we can tackle the proof that the Bible is the Word of God. 8) Thank you Chuckles..... you have proven my point you are a self righteous, egocentric individual who pushes his own agenda even when asked not to. That alone is enough to drive people to the truth of "There is no God". You appear to be desperate to prove your point. Good luck squire. LOL! You are so funny. Listen to you. I have science facts on my side. And you can't even bring any up. In fact, you probably wouldn't know how to rebut anything even if it were not fact. All you have is hot air. The fact that God exists has been scientifically proven long ago. I simply point out how. However, thanks for blowing your hot air around. Doing so only serves to strengthen the fact of God's existence in the minds of those who are open to science. Keep it up. 8) Hmmm lets look at the way you argue points. 1. Following the words of the bible - BADecker says that by not following the words of the bible exactly, is following the bible..... WTF? 2. By saying that because the Universe cannot be proved as a big bang, therefore he assumes that a God has created it......WTF? Sorry squire.... that is not science fact, that is delusion. Seems that you still haven't looked at what I say about the proof that God exists. Here it is again: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. However, thanks again for hinting that I should post it. Other people will read, and some of them will start to understand that God exists. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: Gimpeline on February 19, 2017, 08:23:12 PM I have always think about what happens after dying, do you even know that you already died or what happens to the memories that lies in you brain would they just vanish after dying or would the memories remain. After death is something a person who died can answer, but after dying there's no chance that a human being can solve this conclusion. Science hasn't really found a big spot where memories are stored in the brain. There are places spread out through the brain where some small piles of memories are located. But the big spot hasn't been found. Some people think that there is a spiritual body that contains the true memories. This spiritual body is much larger in its realm than the physical body is in this realm. The spiritual body is the real person, riding in the physical body like people ride in machines. A good movie example of this was the movie Avatar. 8) What, a fictional story? Yeah I agree. Avatar was a good example. Star Wars war machines are another. Thanks. 8) Robots from Star Wars... Hmm if you think on that stupid trooper robots from Episode One, that thanks but no thanks XD . I would rather die that turn into that thing XD . Maybe it would be nice if Force exist. Whole Jedi view of things, Force everywhere. In every living thing, just like Jedi code said There is no death, there is the Force . :D Well that would be cool :D . The point is, our bodies are like almost infinitely more complex machines. Our spirits ride in our body machines, controlling them like storm troupers controlled their humanoid, robot-like machines that they rode in. It's all way more complex than science has come close to figuring out. 8) The initial poster highlighted the fact you went against what he asked for you not to do and you still go on. BADecker (chuckles) I initially enjoyed our discussions, however, you have now proven you are nothing more than a serial Troll. You ignore requests for no religious points and push your own agenda. Show some respect please and have the decency to allow a topic to progress without your need to attempt to indoctrinate others. He also highlighted the fact that I remained within his requests. So I go on. But what are you doing with your post that doesn't do anything to further the "after death" discussion, but only attempts to pick on me? You have a problem. You can't find anything wrong in what I say. You can't rebut my facts. So you attempt to demean my character... mostly with direct lies. Start to realize that the things that I post are for the most part truth. Check out what I said about after death... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187756#msg17187756. 8) I checked it out and sorry Chuckles but you totally ignored the request. Now check out the original post..... He has asked for you not to discuss the christian or muslim belief. So what do you do..... sprout your crap. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187572#msg17187572 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187572#msg17187572) All I do is highlight your rudeness and your one minded philosophy of crap. That shouldn't worry you but for some reason it does. If you don't want me to comment, then I suggest we both drop the religious discussion and allow this thread to be about "non-religious" aspects and thoughts of after death. I know I can do that.... but can you? You are speaking about yourself ^^^, not me. 8) No.... it's about you. So we have an agreement. This topic is about non-religious thoughts and ideas. Good working with you! Why do you bring up such a minor agreement? Of course all thoughts and ideas that are unsubstantiated are non-religious until they are thought about. Then they become a part of the religion of the thinker, one way or the other, believed or not believed... at least until they are substantiated. The thing that we are talking about is the proof... proof for the existence of God. No religion there. Only knowledge. Of course, there are people who won't look at the proof for fear that God just might be real. They would rather keep their knowledge of God in a religious position where they can believe or not believe about God. Religion following the proof starts for some people when they believe or don't believe the things that God says... and in some cases, that God even says things. Once a person understands that God exists, his next step would be to understand the proof that the Bible is the Word of God. Then he can start to believe in the things that the Bible says... often things for which there will never be any proof before the Judgment Day. Proof that the Bible is the Word of God is secondary to what we are discussing. Let's get the proof for the existence of God clearly embedded within ourselves. Then we can tackle the proof that the Bible is the Word of God. 8) Thank you Chuckles..... you have proven my point you are a self righteous, egocentric individual who pushes his own agenda even when asked not to. That alone is enough to drive people to the truth of "There is no God". You appear to be desperate to prove your point. Good luck squire. LOL! You are so funny. Listen to you. I have science facts on my side. And you can't even bring any up. In fact, you probably wouldn't know how to rebut anything even if it were not fact. All you have is hot air. The fact that God exists has been scientifically proven long ago. I simply point out how. However, thanks for blowing your hot air around. Doing so only serves to strengthen the fact of God's existence in the minds of those who are open to science. Keep it up. 8) Hmmm lets look at the way you argue points. 1. Following the words of the bible - BADecker says that by not following the words of the bible exactly, is following the bible..... WTF? 2. By saying that because the Universe cannot be proved as a big bang, therefore he assumes that a God has created it......WTF? Sorry squire.... that is not science fact, that is delusion. Seems that you still haven't looked at what I say about the proof that God exists. Here it is again: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. However, thanks again for hinting that I should post it. Other people will read, and some of them will start to understand that God exists. 8) Link 2 breaks newtons law. God have to have a beginning. link 3 is bs Link 4 breaks newtons 3rd law. God must have had a cause to pop up Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on February 19, 2017, 08:28:09 PM I have always think about what happens after dying, do you even know that you already died or what happens to the memories that lies in you brain would they just vanish after dying or would the memories remain. After death is something a person who died can answer, but after dying there's no chance that a human being can solve this conclusion. Science hasn't really found a big spot where memories are stored in the brain. There are places spread out through the brain where some small piles of memories are located. But the big spot hasn't been found. Some people think that there is a spiritual body that contains the true memories. This spiritual body is much larger in its realm than the physical body is in this realm. The spiritual body is the real person, riding in the physical body like people ride in machines. A good movie example of this was the movie Avatar. 8) What, a fictional story? Yeah I agree. Avatar was a good example. Star Wars war machines are another. Thanks. 8) Robots from Star Wars... Hmm if you think on that stupid trooper robots from Episode One, that thanks but no thanks XD . I would rather die that turn into that thing XD . Maybe it would be nice if Force exist. Whole Jedi view of things, Force everywhere. In every living thing, just like Jedi code said There is no death, there is the Force . :D Well that would be cool :D . The point is, our bodies are like almost infinitely more complex machines. Our spirits ride in our body machines, controlling them like storm troupers controlled their humanoid, robot-like machines that they rode in. It's all way more complex than science has come close to figuring out. 8) The initial poster highlighted the fact you went against what he asked for you not to do and you still go on. BADecker (chuckles) I initially enjoyed our discussions, however, you have now proven you are nothing more than a serial Troll. You ignore requests for no religious points and push your own agenda. Show some respect please and have the decency to allow a topic to progress without your need to attempt to indoctrinate others. He also highlighted the fact that I remained within his requests. So I go on. But what are you doing with your post that doesn't do anything to further the "after death" discussion, but only attempts to pick on me? You have a problem. You can't find anything wrong in what I say. You can't rebut my facts. So you attempt to demean my character... mostly with direct lies. Start to realize that the things that I post are for the most part truth. Check out what I said about after death... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187756#msg17187756. 8) I checked it out and sorry Chuckles but you totally ignored the request. Now check out the original post..... He has asked for you not to discuss the christian or muslim belief. So what do you do..... sprout your crap. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187572#msg17187572 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187572#msg17187572) All I do is highlight your rudeness and your one minded philosophy of crap. That shouldn't worry you but for some reason it does. If you don't want me to comment, then I suggest we both drop the religious discussion and allow this thread to be about "non-religious" aspects and thoughts of after death. I know I can do that.... but can you? You are speaking about yourself ^^^, not me. 8) No.... it's about you. So we have an agreement. This topic is about non-religious thoughts and ideas. Good working with you! Why do you bring up such a minor agreement? Of course all thoughts and ideas that are unsubstantiated are non-religious until they are thought about. Then they become a part of the religion of the thinker, one way or the other, believed or not believed... at least until they are substantiated. The thing that we are talking about is the proof... proof for the existence of God. No religion there. Only knowledge. Of course, there are people who won't look at the proof for fear that God just might be real. They would rather keep their knowledge of God in a religious position where they can believe or not believe about God. Religion following the proof starts for some people when they believe or don't believe the things that God says... and in some cases, that God even says things. Once a person understands that God exists, his next step would be to understand the proof that the Bible is the Word of God. Then he can start to believe in the things that the Bible says... often things for which there will never be any proof before the Judgment Day. Proof that the Bible is the Word of God is secondary to what we are discussing. Let's get the proof for the existence of God clearly embedded within ourselves. Then we can tackle the proof that the Bible is the Word of God. 8) Thank you Chuckles..... you have proven my point you are a self righteous, egocentric individual who pushes his own agenda even when asked not to. That alone is enough to drive people to the truth of "There is no God". You appear to be desperate to prove your point. Good luck squire. LOL! You are so funny. Listen to you. I have science facts on my side. And you can't even bring any up. In fact, you probably wouldn't know how to rebut anything even if it were not fact. All you have is hot air. The fact that God exists has been scientifically proven long ago. I simply point out how. However, thanks for blowing your hot air around. Doing so only serves to strengthen the fact of God's existence in the minds of those who are open to science. Keep it up. 8) Hmmm lets look at the way you argue points. 1. Following the words of the bible - BADecker says that by not following the words of the bible exactly, is following the bible..... WTF? 2. By saying that because the Universe cannot be proved as a big bang, therefore he assumes that a God has created it......WTF? Sorry squire.... that is not science fact, that is delusion. Seems that you still haven't looked at what I say about the proof that God exists. Here it is again: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. However, thanks again for hinting that I should post it. Other people will read, and some of them will start to understand that God exists. 8) Link 2 breaks newtons law. God have to have a beginning. link 3 is bs Link 4 breaks newtons 3rd law. God must have had a cause to pop up Like I said. You barely can understand things. God, being outside the universe, doesn't have to obey universe laws, like having a beginning. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: Gimpeline on February 19, 2017, 08:30:23 PM I have always think about what happens after dying, do you even know that you already died or what happens to the memories that lies in you brain would they just vanish after dying or would the memories remain. After death is something a person who died can answer, but after dying there's no chance that a human being can solve this conclusion. Science hasn't really found a big spot where memories are stored in the brain. There are places spread out through the brain where some small piles of memories are located. But the big spot hasn't been found. Some people think that there is a spiritual body that contains the true memories. This spiritual body is much larger in its realm than the physical body is in this realm. The spiritual body is the real person, riding in the physical body like people ride in machines. A good movie example of this was the movie Avatar. 8) What, a fictional story? Yeah I agree. Avatar was a good example. Star Wars war machines are another. Thanks. 8) Robots from Star Wars... Hmm if you think on that stupid trooper robots from Episode One, that thanks but no thanks XD . I would rather die that turn into that thing XD . Maybe it would be nice if Force exist. Whole Jedi view of things, Force everywhere. In every living thing, just like Jedi code said There is no death, there is the Force . :D Well that would be cool :D . The point is, our bodies are like almost infinitely more complex machines. Our spirits ride in our body machines, controlling them like storm troupers controlled their humanoid, robot-like machines that they rode in. It's all way more complex than science has come close to figuring out. 8) The initial poster highlighted the fact you went against what he asked for you not to do and you still go on. BADecker (chuckles) I initially enjoyed our discussions, however, you have now proven you are nothing more than a serial Troll. You ignore requests for no religious points and push your own agenda. Show some respect please and have the decency to allow a topic to progress without your need to attempt to indoctrinate others. He also highlighted the fact that I remained within his requests. So I go on. But what are you doing with your post that doesn't do anything to further the "after death" discussion, but only attempts to pick on me? You have a problem. You can't find anything wrong in what I say. You can't rebut my facts. So you attempt to demean my character... mostly with direct lies. Start to realize that the things that I post are for the most part truth. Check out what I said about after death... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187756#msg17187756. 8) I checked it out and sorry Chuckles but you totally ignored the request. Now check out the original post..... He has asked for you not to discuss the christian or muslim belief. So what do you do..... sprout your crap. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187572#msg17187572 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187572#msg17187572) All I do is highlight your rudeness and your one minded philosophy of crap. That shouldn't worry you but for some reason it does. If you don't want me to comment, then I suggest we both drop the religious discussion and allow this thread to be about "non-religious" aspects and thoughts of after death. I know I can do that.... but can you? You are speaking about yourself ^^^, not me. 8) No.... it's about you. So we have an agreement. This topic is about non-religious thoughts and ideas. Good working with you! Why do you bring up such a minor agreement? Of course all thoughts and ideas that are unsubstantiated are non-religious until they are thought about. Then they become a part of the religion of the thinker, one way or the other, believed or not believed... at least until they are substantiated. The thing that we are talking about is the proof... proof for the existence of God. No religion there. Only knowledge. Of course, there are people who won't look at the proof for fear that God just might be real. They would rather keep their knowledge of God in a religious position where they can believe or not believe about God. Religion following the proof starts for some people when they believe or don't believe the things that God says... and in some cases, that God even says things. Once a person understands that God exists, his next step would be to understand the proof that the Bible is the Word of God. Then he can start to believe in the things that the Bible says... often things for which there will never be any proof before the Judgment Day. Proof that the Bible is the Word of God is secondary to what we are discussing. Let's get the proof for the existence of God clearly embedded within ourselves. Then we can tackle the proof that the Bible is the Word of God. 8) Thank you Chuckles..... you have proven my point you are a self righteous, egocentric individual who pushes his own agenda even when asked not to. That alone is enough to drive people to the truth of "There is no God". You appear to be desperate to prove your point. Good luck squire. LOL! You are so funny. Listen to you. I have science facts on my side. And you can't even bring any up. In fact, you probably wouldn't know how to rebut anything even if it were not fact. All you have is hot air. The fact that God exists has been scientifically proven long ago. I simply point out how. However, thanks for blowing your hot air around. Doing so only serves to strengthen the fact of God's existence in the minds of those who are open to science. Keep it up. 8) Hmmm lets look at the way you argue points. 1. Following the words of the bible - BADecker says that by not following the words of the bible exactly, is following the bible..... WTF? 2. By saying that because the Universe cannot be proved as a big bang, therefore he assumes that a God has created it......WTF? Sorry squire.... that is not science fact, that is delusion. Seems that you still haven't looked at what I say about the proof that God exists. Here it is again: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. However, thanks again for hinting that I should post it. Other people will read, and some of them will start to understand that God exists. 8) Link 2 breaks newtons law. God have to have a beginning. link 3 is bs Link 4 breaks newtons 3rd law. God must have had a cause to pop up Like I said. You barely can understand things. God, being outside the universe, doesn't have to obey universe laws, like having a beginning. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: BADecker on February 19, 2017, 08:37:29 PM I have always think about what happens after dying, do you even know that you already died or what happens to the memories that lies in you brain would they just vanish after dying or would the memories remain. After death is something a person who died can answer, but after dying there's no chance that a human being can solve this conclusion. Science hasn't really found a big spot where memories are stored in the brain. There are places spread out through the brain where some small piles of memories are located. But the big spot hasn't been found. Some people think that there is a spiritual body that contains the true memories. This spiritual body is much larger in its realm than the physical body is in this realm. The spiritual body is the real person, riding in the physical body like people ride in machines. A good movie example of this was the movie Avatar. 8) What, a fictional story? Yeah I agree. Avatar was a good example. Star Wars war machines are another. Thanks. 8) Robots from Star Wars... Hmm if you think on that stupid trooper robots from Episode One, that thanks but no thanks XD . I would rather die that turn into that thing XD . Maybe it would be nice if Force exist. Whole Jedi view of things, Force everywhere. In every living thing, just like Jedi code said There is no death, there is the Force . :D Well that would be cool :D . The point is, our bodies are like almost infinitely more complex machines. Our spirits ride in our body machines, controlling them like storm troupers controlled their humanoid, robot-like machines that they rode in. It's all way more complex than science has come close to figuring out. 8) The initial poster highlighted the fact you went against what he asked for you not to do and you still go on. BADecker (chuckles) I initially enjoyed our discussions, however, you have now proven you are nothing more than a serial Troll. You ignore requests for no religious points and push your own agenda. Show some respect please and have the decency to allow a topic to progress without your need to attempt to indoctrinate others. He also highlighted the fact that I remained within his requests. So I go on. But what are you doing with your post that doesn't do anything to further the "after death" discussion, but only attempts to pick on me? You have a problem. You can't find anything wrong in what I say. You can't rebut my facts. So you attempt to demean my character... mostly with direct lies. Start to realize that the things that I post are for the most part truth. Check out what I said about after death... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187756#msg17187756. 8) I checked it out and sorry Chuckles but you totally ignored the request. Now check out the original post..... He has asked for you not to discuss the christian or muslim belief. So what do you do..... sprout your crap. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187572#msg17187572 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187572#msg17187572) All I do is highlight your rudeness and your one minded philosophy of crap. That shouldn't worry you but for some reason it does. If you don't want me to comment, then I suggest we both drop the religious discussion and allow this thread to be about "non-religious" aspects and thoughts of after death. I know I can do that.... but can you? You are speaking about yourself ^^^, not me. 8) No.... it's about you. So we have an agreement. This topic is about non-religious thoughts and ideas. Good working with you! Why do you bring up such a minor agreement? Of course all thoughts and ideas that are unsubstantiated are non-religious until they are thought about. Then they become a part of the religion of the thinker, one way or the other, believed or not believed... at least until they are substantiated. The thing that we are talking about is the proof... proof for the existence of God. No religion there. Only knowledge. Of course, there are people who won't look at the proof for fear that God just might be real. They would rather keep their knowledge of God in a religious position where they can believe or not believe about God. Religion following the proof starts for some people when they believe or don't believe the things that God says... and in some cases, that God even says things. Once a person understands that God exists, his next step would be to understand the proof that the Bible is the Word of God. Then he can start to believe in the things that the Bible says... often things for which there will never be any proof before the Judgment Day. Proof that the Bible is the Word of God is secondary to what we are discussing. Let's get the proof for the existence of God clearly embedded within ourselves. Then we can tackle the proof that the Bible is the Word of God. 8) Thank you Chuckles..... you have proven my point you are a self righteous, egocentric individual who pushes his own agenda even when asked not to. That alone is enough to drive people to the truth of "There is no God". You appear to be desperate to prove your point. Good luck squire. LOL! You are so funny. Listen to you. I have science facts on my side. And you can't even bring any up. In fact, you probably wouldn't know how to rebut anything even if it were not fact. All you have is hot air. The fact that God exists has been scientifically proven long ago. I simply point out how. However, thanks for blowing your hot air around. Doing so only serves to strengthen the fact of God's existence in the minds of those who are open to science. Keep it up. 8) Hmmm lets look at the way you argue points. 1. Following the words of the bible - BADecker says that by not following the words of the bible exactly, is following the bible..... WTF? 2. By saying that because the Universe cannot be proved as a big bang, therefore he assumes that a God has created it......WTF? Sorry squire.... that is not science fact, that is delusion. Seems that you still haven't looked at what I say about the proof that God exists. Here it is again: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. However, thanks again for hinting that I should post it. Other people will read, and some of them will start to understand that God exists. 8) Link 2 breaks newtons law. God have to have a beginning. link 3 is bs Link 4 breaks newtons 3rd law. God must have had a cause to pop up Like I said. You barely can understand things. God, being outside the universe, doesn't have to obey universe laws, like having a beginning. 8) No it doesn't. Why not? Because Newton's laws only factually apply to things in the universe. If they apply to things outside the universe, we don't know it. 8) Title: Re: After death Post by: doublebit21 on August 09, 2017, 12:49:32 PM Well, We don't know what's the truth behind after death because no one has experienced to die and then go back to life to tell a story how and where we go after we die. But there are lots of sayings that it's like you reincarnate on a different person that you we're like dreaming or something. And some says we go to heaven or hell. I don't know either. But I think the most nearest answer is when reincarnate because sometimes we dream like our dream happened or something we encountered on a different place for example you are dreaming of something like this has happened to me before. Like a dejavu.. :D
Title: Re: After death Post by: johnextman852 on August 09, 2017, 01:26:24 PM We don't know what will happen cause we still not experienced it ;D ;D ;D
but for me, we will go to heaven :) Title: Re: After death Post by: pureladybee on August 09, 2017, 06:35:22 PM We will never know, and we can't remember our past deaths in other lifes.
Title: Re: After death Post by: penguinlols on August 09, 2017, 07:27:57 PM The same thing that happens before you are born, why would it be any different? :)
Title: Re: After death Post by: colossus on August 09, 2017, 08:44:04 PM My opinion is nothing. Just nothing. We do not even know that we are dying. Do you remember what was before your birth? This will be the same after death. nothing.
Title: Re: After death Post by: jilin on August 10, 2017, 01:15:59 AM We should not think about premature death after this topic, we should live a good life to cherish the present time, who do not know where we will die, this is God to think about things. ;D
Title: Re: After death Post by: Xester on August 10, 2017, 10:11:34 AM We should not think about premature death after this topic, we should live a good life to cherish the present time, who do not know where we will die, this is God to think about things. ;D Many people believes that after death is the next chapter of our life. But I believe that heaven is the place where good people should belong and purgatory to those bad people. But no one can prove that it is correct. Now, we should enjoy our life and we should take care of it. Because no one of us can say when we will be die. Title: Re: After death Post by: Daniel91 on August 10, 2017, 03:06:39 PM My opinion is nothing. Just nothing. We do not even know that we are dying. Do you remember what was before your birth? This will be the same after death. nothing. In fact, time before our physical birth is good example what will happen with us after physical death. We live 9 months in mother's womb, in the water, preparing for our life in the physical world. In order to live in the physical world we have to prepare well in mother's womb, our lungs, so that we can breathe when we are born in the other world, the world of air. In our ''second '' life, we have to prepare for the life in the ''third'' world, spiritual world. We can't breathe in spiritual world if we don't have love and therefore we must develop our heart while we are on earth. When we die in this world, our physical body goes away and we are reborn in spiritual world, where our spirit lives eternally. Title: Re: After death Post by: batt01 on August 10, 2017, 05:33:47 PM There will be just nothing...at least I hope so.
Title: Re: After death Post by: kodes88 on August 10, 2017, 06:25:58 PM I know you are not interested in what is in religion like christian and islam about this. But if we talk about After Death, we can not escape from religion. If I do not bring religion to a topic like this, I really do not know what's after death. Maybe nothing will happen, I do not know.
Title: Re: After death Post by: Bodywowoya on August 10, 2017, 06:26:14 PM There will be just nothing...at least I hope so. I, too, do not believe in life after death. This people came up with for the sake of consolation. They are simply afraid to realize that they are leaving life definitively Title: Re: After death Post by: RedX on August 11, 2017, 12:42:50 AM I know you are not interested in what is in religion like christian and islam about this. But if we talk about After Death, we can not escape from religion. If I do not bring religion to a topic like this, I really do not know what's after death. Maybe nothing will happen, I do not know. I think nobody really knows what comes after death. There is also no proof that they went to heaven or hell. We can't even confirm that people who died are tranferred to another dimension. All I can say is we just break down on the very tiniest particles wandering through the earth after death. Title: Re: After death Post by: chixka000 on August 11, 2017, 03:09:27 AM Death is a part of life that how it was design. If i do talk about logically then i must say that it is the essence of life. If there is no death life is not created. Did you get my point?
Title: Re: After death Post by: dippididodaday on August 11, 2017, 03:33:20 AM Death is a part of life that how it was design. If i do talk about logically then i must say that it is the essence of life. If there is no death life is not created. Did you get my point? Thank you chixka000, I got your point very nicely. ;) When we die in this world, our physical body goes away and we are reborn in spiritual world, where our spirit lives eternally. According to the Book (that old and holy one), our physical body does not go away, this is a false presumption many Christians have. The physical body is resurrected. Go check it out in that holy Book. ;) Title: Re: After death Post by: gabmen on August 11, 2017, 05:46:41 AM Death is a part of life that how it was design. If i do talk about logically then i must say that it is the essence of life. If there is no death life is not created. Did you get my point? Well not many people are really fond of thinking about that, moreso looking at it from your point of view. It's not a popular topic and people would rather talk about life and how to make he most out of it. Title: Re: After death Post by: GideonGono on August 11, 2017, 06:27:23 AM You should redirect what life is since it is the thing you have right now. Death would come along the way hence you will either discover a life in another world or whatever it may. The thing is to focus what you have right now and what you will have in the future is a thing in the future.
Title: Re: After death Post by: arpon11 on August 11, 2017, 07:19:41 AM I do not think one can really said anything based on your question without religion both Muslim or Christian religion view on death. I don't think you should also kill yourself before you understand what happened after death. Of a truth after death then judgement! And as a living we were not grant that opportunity to know what happened after death as part of our experience on earth.
Title: Re: After death Post by: lilit on August 11, 2017, 08:28:08 AM The soul of man is immortal and after death, after some time, he is born again on earth in order to atone for his sins and lead a moral way of life. I think that the soul of every person is already quite old and about a few thousand years old.
Title: Re: After death Post by: arnobs007 on November 17, 2017, 05:23:22 PM No one knows what will happen after death. But one thing is sure that there is no reborn will happen. Death is obviously a common scenario because the person who has life he/she will definitely die.
Title: Re: After death Post by: Genemind on November 18, 2017, 07:48:14 AM Like what they say, we’ll find out once we get there. But, I do fear that maybe there is nothing after death. I fear that after this life, we’ll all turn into nothingness. In religion, we are taught that there’s another life after this one. So, let’s just hope for the best.
Title: Re: After death Post by: patykuprova on November 18, 2017, 08:13:22 AM I still very hard to be convince that there is afterlife, this is still not be explain by science so i still dont put my trust on the existence of afterlife
Title: Re: After death Post by: hashansa on November 18, 2017, 02:44:05 PM according to Buddhism, death is not the end of life, it is that we leaving the body we used to live in for this chapter, the spirit will seek for new body to born again, that will affect by the things we done in the all past lives, if we have done more good things we will be able to attach to a higher end life form, but if we have done more bad things we will attach to a lower life form.
in this way we will live again and again as different life forms, this is called sansaraya by improving our understand and improving the inner purity you can attain nirvana, end of all suffering, and no more rebirth afterward. Title: Re: After death Post by: September11 on November 18, 2017, 11:49:55 PM Don't forget to consider the possibility that what happens after death is exactly NOTHING, being death precisely the end of things happening to you.
Title: Re: After death Post by: Agetan on November 19, 2017, 12:06:48 AM Since i believe in ghost, after dead we will be just like normal life in the world. Doing some job but not the same job like you have here. The job is chooseen not your self. After some period, you will pay for your life karma, not paying with money but with punishment and born again to this world bring all of your karma.
Title: Re: After death Post by: Vivimubarak on November 19, 2017, 02:07:35 AM Reincarnation also comes from a belief, death is a process that all human beings and life will pass, whoever you are, will still die. Humans have three stages in the process, the world at the time we are in the womb, the world of life today, and the world of death. such as the leaves on the fallen leaf will be the fertilizer of the plant itself, as well as the dead will provide the inheritance and knowledge to his successors for a more developed era.
Title: Re: After death Post by: SamPo on November 19, 2017, 03:15:41 AM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. EDIT: This question refers more the philosophical view on the period after ones death, so please keep the hc religious beliefs or non-religious away from this thread, tho there are already a few. Thank you. There is a wonderful life awaiting for everyone of us after death. A life with joy and happiness with GOd and his angels. A never ending life where we can feel happiness and fulfillment. A life where we can never experience suffering ang hurt. A life that we can claim forever. Title: Re: After death Post by: jonemil24 on November 19, 2017, 05:14:56 AM Scene from Game of Thrones after Melisandre brought Jon Snow back:
Melisandre: Afterwards, after they stabbed you, after you died, where did you go? What did you see? Jon Snow: Nothing. There was nothing at all. If I ever saw a person who comes back from the death, I will ask him/her what he/she saw because it's really intriguing. But, I am more intrigued on what others claim about life and death. It was like; you have to stop from being reborn or be born again in a physical life(taught in Buddhism), I may never have much idea about it, but it sounds to me that we have to stop death from making us live another new life or new memory. I suggest you to watch transcendence about this new life and memory thing. About Death, here's another line from Game of Thrones: Beric Dondarrion: I'm not fighting so some man or woman I barely know can sit on a throne made of swords. Jon Snow: So, what are you fighting for? Beric Dondarrion: Life. Death is the enemy. The first enemy and the last. Jon Snow: But we all die. Beric Dondarrion: The enemy always wins. And we still need to fight him. That's all I know. Title: Re: After death Post by: radert on November 19, 2017, 05:17:20 AM If my brain is dead, so am I. Then it is like before my birth. Namely nothing. Man is bound to his brain. You can see that in Alzheimer's. When a part of your brain changes, so does the human being. Something like a soul is a religious invention and has nothing to do with scientific knowledge.
Title: Re: After death Post by: mikel00 on November 19, 2017, 06:40:34 AM i think when you die you're gone you never comeback its hard to accept but thats life
Title: Re: After death Post by: arafat1209 on November 19, 2017, 06:45:34 AM Every day thousands of people will take their final breath and slip into eternity, either into heaven or into hell. Although we may never know their names the reality of death happens every day..... What happens the moment after you die? The moment after you die, your soul temporarily departs from your body to await the Resurrection. Those who place their faith in Christ shall be carried by the angels into the presence of the Lord. They are now comforted... Absent from the body and present with the Lord. Meanwhile, unbelievers await in Hades for the final Judgment. "And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments... And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame." Title: Re: After death Post by: supine on November 19, 2017, 07:48:27 PM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. EDIT: This question refers more the philosophical view on the period after ones death, so please keep the hc religious beliefs or non-religious away from this thread, tho there are already a few. Thank you. I really believe that we people have souls. Whenever, one experiences sleep paralysis, the sould of that person temporarily goes out of the body. I think yhe same thing will happen in death, our souls will leave our bodies. However, I still don’t know where it goes. I guess we’ll know the answer, once we get there. Title: Re: After death Post by: Brunus on November 19, 2017, 08:11:11 PM I see a lot of people wondering if there is life after death.
I think a better question would be "Is there life BEFORE death"? Title: Re: After death Post by: congresowoman on November 19, 2017, 11:33:28 PM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. I know that there is a life after death. Simply because the Bible tells me so and that is the promise of God. But on the other hand, it will not be a physical life but a life with our Creator. A life that has no death and pain. Life thatis dedicates to just singing praises to God.That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. EDIT: This question refers more the philosophical view on the period after ones death, so please keep the hc religious beliefs or non-religious away from this thread, tho there are already a few. Thank you. Title: Re: After death Post by: -Redacted- on November 22, 2017, 08:45:36 AM it seems to me that death is total rest. when you do not feel anything. and then you are again infused into the body and again you live, search, feel, breathe
Title: Re: After death Post by: Yurkov on November 22, 2017, 10:26:40 AM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. I know that there is a life after death. Simply because the Bible tells me so and that is the promise of God. But on the other hand, it will not be a physical life but a life with our Creator. A life that has no death and pain. Life thatis dedicates to just singing praises to God.That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. EDIT: This question refers more the philosophical view on the period after ones death, so please keep the hc religious beliefs or non-religious away from this thread, tho there are already a few. Thank you. Title: Re: After death Post by: robinsonnde on November 22, 2017, 10:28:44 AM I think death is just a freedom of your spirit, your spirit will be free to continuing in another life. Death maybe isn't the end, it could be a new start.
Title: Re: After death Post by: SugoiSenpai on November 22, 2017, 01:10:42 PM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. Well, Basing from My own philosophical perspective, I believe that after death, We are gone forever. The next process in life is when another human being is born. I wouldn't call it reincarnation though, as it is a new life of another Human Being. Again, from my own philosophical view, After Death, We are gone, We are nothing. Its just like nothing really ever happened. This is more like you exist when you alive, but after death, you are not existent anymore.That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. EDIT: This question refers more the philosophical view on the period after ones death, so please keep the hc religious beliefs or non-religious away from this thread, tho there are already a few. Thank you. Title: Re: After death Post by: xanxus.kun on November 22, 2017, 03:46:57 PM When you die, you'll either be in heaver or hell period.
Title: Re: After death Post by: rynah011991 on November 22, 2017, 04:26:10 PM for the believer in Jesus Christ, the Bible tells us that after death believers’ souls/spirits are taken to heaven, because their sins are forgiven by having received Christ as Savior (John 3:16, 18, 36). For believers, death is to be “away from the body and at home with the Lord” (2 Corinthians 5:6-8; Philippians 1:23). However, passages such as 1 Corinthians 15:50-54 and 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 describe believers being resurrected and given glorified bodies. If believers go to be with Christ immediately after death, what is the purpose of this resurrection? It seems that while the souls/spirits of believers go to be with Christ immediately after death, the physical body remains in the grave “sleeping.” At the resurrection of believers, the physical body is resurrected, glorified, and then reunited with the soul/spirit. This reunited and glorified body-soul-spirit will be the possession of believers for eternity in the new heavens and new earth (Revelation 21-22).
Title: Re: After death Post by: Applechild on November 23, 2017, 03:18:01 PM it is simple. after death is judgement. for it is appointed unto man to die once and after that judgement. you land in one of two place: namely heaven or hell. the choose is yours to know your Maker now so that you can end up at the good side.
Title: Re: After death Post by: Laboico on November 27, 2017, 10:03:30 PM Unfortunately there is no way to find out the truth. Even lethal death can be something like a dream
Title: Re: After death Post by: Loveydovey04 on November 27, 2017, 10:19:04 PM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. Well, no one died and came back to life to give us a testimony of how it is and what it is after death, so we dont have a basis of what to believe in. However, the Christian Bible tells us that there is life after death. This belief makes Christian believers strive hard in living right with God in a hope of life after death. That is only what Christians believe in but every religion has their own beliefs.That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. EDIT: This question refers more the philosophical view on the period after ones death, so please keep the hc religious beliefs or non-religious away from this thread, tho there are already a few. Thank you. Title: Re: After death Post by: badgalmae on November 27, 2017, 10:33:04 PM I don't believe in life after death. I wish I would, tho. I am terrified of death, mine, and of people I care about. Many of my friends believe in heaven or hell after death, some believe in reincarnation (that they will be born again as a cat, as I don't know, a flower, a bird, whatever) and I'd do anything to believe that but I think there's nothing to that. Nothing. Like before we were born. And it freaks me out. ??? So enjoy while you're alive. Life's not so bad as it sometimes seems.
Title: Re: After death Post by: noelwenceslao03 on November 27, 2017, 10:56:12 PM After death, there is life. In my religion, one person who believes in God would go to heaven, and if not, in hell. But that is my own belief, I would clearly and fully respect your own opinions about life after death.
Title: Re: After death Post by: yoseph on November 27, 2017, 11:01:12 PM I don't believe in life after death. I wish I would, tho. I am terrified of death, mine, and of people I care about. Many of my friends believe in heaven or hell after death, some believe in reincarnation (that they will be born again as a cat, as I don't know, a flower, a bird, whatever) and I'd do anything to believe that but I think there's nothing to that. Nothing. Like before we were born. And it freaks me out. ??? So enjoy while you're alive. Life's not so bad as it sometimes seems. I wouldn't mind if there is no life after death at all and since we don't know whether there is or not. I make sure that I live my life in such a way that if there is indeed life after death, I will not be found wanting.Title: Re: After death Post by: ttbd on November 27, 2017, 11:59:15 PM It was like sleeping without any dreams. The thought is terrifying; I hope there is more to our existence once our time on this earth is up, but having experienced such nothingness is truly frightening.I am by no means religious, but the concept of possibly living such an empty existence makes me want to believe in something
Title: Re: After death Post by: youarehere on November 28, 2017, 06:56:17 AM after death in my opinion you're gone for good because there's no coming back
Title: Re: After death Post by: automail on November 28, 2017, 10:49:01 AM I don't even think what will happen to me after death. In my opinion, once you died, your body will die and forget everything. Even if there's a reincarnation, that person is not you because you won't remember anything. Yes the post here is right, there is no coming back when you died so why bother. Let's focus on what lies ahead of us and make our life worth living. There are a lot of things we can do when we are alive and none when we died. Think about the people around us and spend the rest of our days like there is no tomorrow. Chill and have fun.
Title: Re: After death Post by: tats14 on November 28, 2017, 11:16:46 AM There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate. Well, we cannot know that when our life is about to end, the important is we are alive now so do all things that makes you happy before you die, when death comes, your existence here in this world will be gone and lost but your soul remains still.That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place. EDIT: This question refers more the philosophical view on the period after ones death, so please keep the hc religious beliefs or non-religious away from this thread, tho there are already a few. Thank you. Title: Re: After death Post by: abnoy on November 29, 2017, 08:40:53 AM after death there's no such word because when you die your'e gone and no one is coming back its hard to accept buts that the reality we have to face that everyone will die even if you dont want
Title: Re: After death Post by: Akolade66 on November 29, 2017, 08:43:46 AM You can't really tell. What happen but when you are gone you are gone
Title: Re: After death Post by: RoronoaJorah on November 29, 2017, 03:32:40 PM In my opinion which I hope you dont mind...You cannot find the answer to your question away from the truth...death is just the beginning of life...that there's life after death...coz at the end of every man's life stand God...search the scripture (bible)
Title: Re: After death Post by: 9thst on November 29, 2017, 09:41:48 PM After dead, we are happy. its what we got from religion.
Title: Re: After death Post by: Bestly on December 02, 2017, 10:48:49 AM Most comments are hardly anyway near certainty.
It is expected. None has been there long enough and then here to fully tell how it happens hereafter. Except solace in what faith-based religion tells those who subscribe to it. I am one of those though. Title: Re: After death Post by: Bigbangcrazy on December 02, 2017, 11:27:41 AM I have read through a true story.
A MAN who clinically died for three minutes has shared his experience of the afterlife and found others have gone through the same ordeal. Reddit user ‘Pwnographik’ took to the social news aggregator site to tell his tale of what happened to him when he died. He became ill in a foreign country and was forced to go on a Ketogenic (no carb) diet that ended up destroying the lining of his stomach. As a result, he suffered from nausea and was vomiting to the point that he suffered severe dehydration. After checking himself into ER in his native Canada, he was kept in hospital for a few days. But during his stay disaster struck with his body "rejecting the IV and hydration, my veins were flat, and was unaware that my arm was not taking any of it.” His illness eventually got the better of him, and “everything went black”. During the three minutes he was technically dead, this is what happened. Pwnographik said: “I didn't see any white light or Angels, didn't hear any voices. I could see, but I didn't have a body “It was like I was on another planet, when I looked down I saw sand and there was very shallow water. “It was like an endless shore. The water was probably an inch or two high, but the best way I could describe it is when you walk on the very shallow end of the shore of a beach and that shallow end is just endless, like the water never got deeper or any shallower. “When I looked up the sky was purple, there wasn't a sun. The only thing lighting the skies were these blue rays of light, with a tinge of yellow on the sides. “The feeling was so foreign to me. It just felt like every single problem I had, every single issue no matter how big or how small was just gone. “It was all gone. Every single care I had was all gone. like the weight of the world was completely lifted off my shoulders. “I just existed. It felt like everything was going to be 'okay' and i didn’t have to worry about a single thing, It was what I imagined what the peace was like to the full extent. It felt amazing. “This was going on for what felt like hours, and I was happy.” As medics battled to save his life, he said: “I felt this falling feeling. Everything went black and I just felt like I was falling faster and faster, then all of a sudden there was a huge snap, like my whole body vibrated like when you pull back a ruler and let it go. “Thats when I started feeling everything again. All the worries, and the sadness. I felt really sad. I felt the pain again.” After posting his experience on Reddit, the user found out he was not alone. One response read: “I've read a lot of near death experiences (NDEs), and yours is like a lot of others that I've read. Which is to say that I think it's wonderful.” Another added: “You are definitely not alone. I've seen some NDEs that have similar tones to yours.” - Source: www.express.co.uk Title: Re: After death Post by: Mstkotha on December 26, 2017, 09:40:36 AM After death soul left his body.If this soul will be pure so God call him/her nearby and give this pure soul a nice paradise .After death a man never come back.Its reality that Death is ending of life.man is mortal so every man feel this death tast .When a man fall in death then every man called him/her death body.After death soul and body separate each other. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: After death Post by: randal9 on December 26, 2017, 01:30:50 PM maybe even after death everyone has their own way, but I can say one thing, that we won't die, but will live only in other worlds and other bodies...it would be too easy to live once
Title: Re: After death Post by: Fappanu on December 26, 2017, 01:39:03 PM We can't really determine what happens after death. There's a lot of things in life that cannot pursue as long as we live. Maybe we will know what will happen after death if we experience it. However, there would be no way for us to share it with the living. Or maybe there's nothing after death, just pure silence as if we are just in a deep sleep.
Title: Re: After death Post by: gentlebaguette on December 31, 2017, 12:29:08 AM We can't really determine what happens after death. There's a lot of things in life that cannot pursue as long as we live. Maybe we will know what will happen after death if we experience it. However, there would be no way for us to share it with the living. Or maybe there's nothing after death, just pure silence as if we are just in a deep sleep. Yes, after death is an experience that you aren't been through everyday and there are many mysteries about it that even science can't improve it's exist too.Title: Re: After death Post by: retardunicorn on December 31, 2017, 05:39:12 AM In my country people believe that they will be transfer to another life that can be better than this one. And many people suicide because of that reason but i think life is hard even this life or another life you have to conquer your life in order to enjoy it.
Title: Re: After death Post by: salinizm on January 02, 2018, 04:36:01 AM In my opinion which I hope you dont mind...You cannot find the answer to your question away from the truth...death is just the beginning of life...that there's life after death...coz at the end of every man's life stand God...search the scripture (bible) I respect your claims which you have mentioned above . On the contrary to this, there is no life after death in my opinion. When someone dies , this is the complete ending of his or her life. All of the holy books tell lies about after death for sure. |