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April 01, 2014, 10:06:54 PM
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Andreas Antonopolous is planning on meeting Dorian in person when he is available to do so:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasperhamill/2014/03/31/bitcoin-philanthropists-raise-21000-for-dorian-satoshi-nakamoto/
If Andreas is going to meet Dorian in person, that's cool.

Actually, it's a shrewd move to not give an exact date, in case it causes more media attention.

And hopefully the beatings will continue until Newsweek improves  Grin


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April 02, 2014, 01:54:21 AM
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By mid April the price might be $600 or more so maybe it is a good idea for Andreas to take another week or two.

Andreas is a busy guy anyways so I don't really blame him.

Yeah, he must be busy planning the next excuse to keep the money collected near him.

LoL

It is quite likely the price will not rise in the near future. The demand for Bitcoin is obviously decreasing. Nobody in his sane mind will invest in a market based on fraud, theft and money grab schemes. That is what Bitcoin market became.
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April 02, 2014, 02:42:25 PM
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Looks nice for me.

Some things are just too hard to find in google.
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April 05, 2014, 12:57:42 PM
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If Andreas don't deliver, then there's 'no hope' left for bitcoin. He does certainly not appear as a scammer.

He appears to genuinely believe in the technology and to care about other people, and making big personal sacrifices for the good of Bitcoin.

Interesting to learn how this turns out.
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April 05, 2014, 01:00:24 PM
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Mr A has publicly stated that he's off the grid for a week in early April.
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April 05, 2014, 01:03:16 PM
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community showed support, great thing Smiley happy to be part of it
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April 05, 2014, 07:10:08 PM
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community showed support, great thing Smiley happy to be part of it

Do you feel proud to be part of a pre-order money grab scheme? I am start to think this money will be never donated to Mr Nakamoto. Greed has corrupted most of the big enterprises behind Bitcoin. Why this is going to be different anyway?
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April 05, 2014, 07:24:45 PM
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community showed support, great thing Smiley happy to be part of it

Do you feel proud to be part of a pre-order money grab scheme? I am start to think this money will be never donated to Mr Nakamoto. Greed has corrupted most of the big enterprises behind Bitcoin. Why this is going to be different anyway?

I don't know if you know but Andreas did say he was taking some time off....
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April 05, 2014, 07:26:56 PM
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community showed support, great thing Smiley happy to be part of it

Do you feel proud to be part of a pre-order money grab scheme?
What is your agenda in repeatedly stating that Andreas is running a scam?

Whilst that is of course possible, it seems highly unlikely that one of the best known names in the bitcoin community would destroy their reputation for a relatively small sum.

Will you be posting a public apology after Andreas delivers the funds?
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April 05, 2014, 07:48:42 PM
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What is your agenda in repeatedly stating that Andreas is running a scam?

Whilst that is of course possible, it seems highly unlikely that one of the best known names in the bitcoin community would destroy their reputation for a relatively small sum.

Will you be posting a public apology after Andreas delivers the funds?


LoL

Trendon Shavers was the "community" financial leader until his scheme imploded.

Bruce Wagner was the televised voice of the "community" until he got away with plenty of  BTC which did not belonged to him.

Patrick Harnett was the "community" bastion of the good credit until he vanished with Mircea's BTC.

Zhou Thong was the "community" most young intelligent lad until he was caught stealing Bitcoinica's customers BTC.

LoL

Public apology for what? For my right to freely express what I think?

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April 05, 2014, 08:10:46 PM
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What is your agenda in repeatedly stating that Andreas is running a scam?

Whilst that is of course possible, it seems highly unlikely that one of the best known names in the bitcoin community would destroy their reputation for a relatively small sum.

Will you be posting a public apology after Andreas delivers the funds?


LoL

Trendon Shavers was the "community" financial leader until his scheme imploded.

Bruce Wagner was the televised voice of the "community" until he got away with plenty of  BTC which did not belonged to him.

Patrick Harnett was the "community" bastion of the good credit until he vanished with Mircea's BTC.

Zhou Thong was the "community" most young intelligent lad until he was caught stealing Bitcoinica's customers BTC.

LoL

Public apology for what? For my right to freely express what I think?



Trendon Shavers clearly ran a ponzi scheme, i feel sorry for the people involved with him not because of what they lost but what they never had (brains).

Bruce Wagner just needed 1 letter in his name changed and re-positioned to form what most people would describe him as. If he was a voice associated with bitcoin it was certainly self imposed.

Patrick Harnett was offloading his toxic pirate debt ahaaa he's the best example on your list.

Zhou Thong was and still is a very intelligent lad but I don't think he stole anything.
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April 05, 2014, 08:28:58 PM
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Public apology for what? For my right to freely express what I think?
Sure you have a right to say whatever you like, but it reflects on your character if you're shown to be wrong.

So by all means call someone a scammer when you have absolutely no evidence of that, but I hope you will be apologetic if and when you are proven wrong. I would certainly apologise to you for doubting you in that case.

Though it'd still be nice to hear exactly why you draw the conclusions you do. I was really hoping we'd hear those reasons, which is why I asked what your agenda was.
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April 05, 2014, 09:11:57 PM
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Anyone that believes Andreas will be anything short of honest must have a screw or two loose. 

First, Mr. Antonopoulos has always been a very honest, forthright, and generous person.  Second, the amount of BTC donated here is quite small compared to what it would cost Andreas if he attempted any sort of scam.  The damage that would do to his reputation would directly impact his own finances, due to the stigma it would put on the businesses he either owns, or is involved with.

Personally, I think he is a legitimately good person, and has only the best intentions.  But, even if you were to assume that is not true, it would still make no sense for him to steal a sum this size.  Now, if this fund contained thousands of BTC, then I could understand a bit of concern over transparency...but that is not the case.  Let him handle it as he wants, and he will get it to Mr. Nakamoto when, and how, it is most convenient to himself, and to Dorian.

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April 05, 2014, 10:01:12 PM
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Anyone that believes Andreas will be anything short of honest must have a screw or two loose. 

First, Mr. Antonopoulos has always been a very honest, forthright, and generous person.  Second, the amount of BTC donated here is quite small compared to what it would cost Andreas if he attempted any sort of scam.  The damage that would do to his reputation would directly impact his own finances, due to the stigma it would put on the businesses he either owns, or is involved with.

Personally, I think he is a legitimately good person, and has only the best intentions.  But, even if you were to assume that is not true, it would still make no sense for him to steal a sum this size.  Now, if this fund contained thousands of BTC, then I could understand a bit of concern over transparency...but that is not the case.  Let him handle it as he wants, and he will get it to Mr. Nakamoto when, and how, it is most convenient to himself, and to Dorian.

absolutely.  and if Augusto Croppo has any doubts, put your money where your mouth is.
I'll give you 10 to 1 odds. 

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April 06, 2014, 05:04:42 AM
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Anyone that believes Andreas will be anything short of honest must have a screw or two loose. 

First, Mr. Antonopoulos has always been a very honest, forthright, and generous person.  Second, the amount of BTC donated here is quite small compared to what it would cost Andreas if he attempted any sort of scam.  The damage that would do to his reputation would directly impact his own finances, due to the stigma it would put on the businesses he either owns, or is involved with.

Personally, I think he is a legitimately good person, and has only the best intentions.  But, even if you were to assume that is not true, it would still make no sense for him to steal a sum this size.  Now, if this fund contained thousands of BTC, then I could understand a bit of concern over transparency...but that is not the case.  Let him handle it as he wants, and he will get it to Mr. Nakamoto when, and how, it is most convenient to himself, and to Dorian.

absolutely.  and if Augusto Croppo has any doubts, put your money where your mouth is.
I'll give you 10 to 1 odds. 

I am in for that.

I bet all my coins that Andreas will deliver as soon as he is back from his time out.
Anyone willing to take my bet?
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April 06, 2014, 05:50:53 AM
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Anyone that believes Andreas will be anything short of honest must have a screw or two loose. 

First, Mr. Antonopoulos has always been a very honest, forthright, and generous person.  Second, the amount of BTC donated here is quite small compared to what it would cost Andreas if he attempted any sort of scam.  The damage that would do to his reputation would directly impact his own finances, due to the stigma it would put on the businesses he either owns, or is involved with.

Personally, I think he is a legitimately good person, and has only the best intentions.  But, even if you were to assume that is not true, it would still make no sense for him to steal a sum this size.  Now, if this fund contained thousands of BTC, then I could understand a bit of concern over transparency...but that is not the case.  Let him handle it as he wants, and he will get it to Mr. Nakamoto when, and how, it is most convenient to himself, and to Dorian.

absolutely.  and if Augusto Croppo has any doubts, put your money where your mouth is.
I'll give you 10 to 1 odds. 

I am in for that.

I bet all my coins that Andreas will deliver as soon as he is back from his time out.
Anyone willing to take my bet?


If as soon means within 24 hours of making public communication and it's at 10 to 1 I'm in Smiley
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April 06, 2014, 02:58:20 PM
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So by all means call someone a scammer when you have absolutely no evidence of that, but I hope you will be apologetic if and when you are proven wrong. I would certainly apologise to you for doubting you in that case.

I did not called him a scammer at any moment. I said that is a money grab scheme. Let me repeat: money grab scheme, which rely on collect money for whatever reason and keep it.
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April 06, 2014, 03:03:48 PM
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Let him handle it as he wants, and he will get it to Mr. Nakamoto when, and how, it is most convenient to himself, and to Dorian.

Yeah, let me guess... The next excuse will be the USD/BTC price is not high enough, so the donation will be done in June.

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April 06, 2014, 03:27:37 PM
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So by all means call someone a scammer when you have absolutely no evidence of that, but I hope you will be apologetic if and when you are proven wrong. I would certainly apologise to you for doubting you in that case.

I did not called him a scammer at any moment. I said that is a money grab scheme. Let me repeat: money grab scheme, which rely on collect money for whatever reason and keep it.
Alright Augusto have it your way. It's a shame that you're not going to explain why you think Andreas is operating a money-grab-scheme-which-you-don't-say-is-a-scam-but-just-some-other-way-to-collect-money-for-whatever-reason-and-keep-it-somehow-not-in-line-with-what-he-promised-to-do, nor that you intend to apologise for those accusations if and when Andreas does deliver the funds thus disproving your money-grab-scheme-which-you-don't-say-is-a-scam-but-just-some-other-way-to-collect-money-for-whatever-reason-and-keep-it-somehow-not-in-line-with-what-he-promised-to-do theory.

But that will be the last you will hear about it from me as this has now become too surreal.
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April 06, 2014, 03:41:21 PM
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What is your agenda in repeatedly stating that Andreas is running a scam?

Whilst that is of course possible, it seems highly unlikely that one of the best known names in the bitcoin community would destroy their reputation for a relatively small sum.

Will you be posting a public apology after Andreas delivers the funds?


LoL

Trendon Shavers was the "community" financial leader until his scheme imploded.

Bruce Wagner was the televised voice of the "community" until he got away with plenty of  BTC which did not belonged to him.

Patrick Harnett was the "community" bastion of the good credit until he vanished with Mircea's BTC.

Zhou Thong was the "community" most young intelligent lad until he was caught stealing Bitcoinica's customers BTC.

LoL

Public apology for what? For my right to freely express what I think?



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