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101  Economy / Reputation / Re: Users who spread false/fake/unhelpful information on technical board on: May 03, 2024, 08:36:07 AM
Ok, but what should I do now?
Stop posting about things you don't understand.

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Do I have to delete all my posts from the Development & Technical Discussion board and the Bitcoin Technical Support board?
That would be a good start. It's not helpful, and can give people the wrong idea. Comparing Tor to DNS is like comparing your car engine to a street sign.

I agree with @LoyceV. But i'd like to emphasize that it's okay to ask question on those board.
102  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Future of testnet3 network. on: May 02, 2024, 10:45:21 AM
I'm also surprised chainstate folder has size 7.8GB. So i decide to run gettxoutsetinfo and got following statistic which state there are currently 116.8 million UTXO.
--snip--
I think that is larger than even the bitcoin mainnet's chainstate, right? It was at 6GB or so the last time I checked its size.

Mainnet's chainstate is still bigger at 11.3GB, with about 50% more total UTXO.

But the fact that there is a ballooning UTXO set on testnet does not surprise me at all, as people rarely spend their coins after they are finish testing something. At best, they just return it to the faucet they got it from.

You might be right, but i recall chainstate/UTXO was far smaller a year ago. I need to dig the data for a while to prove that though.
103  Economy / Reputation / Re: Users who spread false/fake/unhelpful information on technical board on: May 02, 2024, 10:31:14 AM
1. Bitcoin is decentralized, so there's no thing such as "central server".
2. Tor Bridge is designed to avoid censorship, see https://support.torproject.org/censorship/censorship-7/. In addition, there's no thing such as complete, absolute or 100% anonymity.
Thank you for your opinion and clarification of my point. Your statement that Bitcoin uses a decentralized network is fully correct, and I was mistaken here. Also, I realize that TOR provides a high level of anonymity but isn’t always secure. My goal was to show the advantages of TOR against other DNS in terms of privacy and network access, but I see my misunderstanding of professional terms as troubling. Once again, thank you for the comment!

1. Your original post didn't mention DNS.
2. I don't understand why you compare Tor with DNS.

1. Statement "Your Bitcoins in Lobster Wallet are actually real." and "Lobster is a wallet for Stellar Network, not Bitcoin." are conflicted.
2. Bitcoin Core and hardware wallet aren't the only Bitcoin wallet out there.
I want to clarify. Although other Bitcoin wallets exist, including Bitcoin Core and hardware wallets, my goal was to mention additional alternatives just for Bitcoin since that was a proper answer to the question context. Concerning this, I should’ve explicitly stated that different wallets could be used, and I am sorry if I sounded unclear. Thank you for your comment.

And how about the conflicting statement i pointed out?

1. The thread talks about modifying Bitcoin-Qt 0.6.2 client. So statement "The blockchain client must be configured to mine the Genesis block" is wrong since Genesis block is hardcoded on Bitcoin. See https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Genesis_block.
2. If you create your own altcoin, that means you also need to run your own block explorer for your altcoin.
I appreciate your clarification. According to my very best knowledge, the Genesis block for this particular fork of Bitcoin (Bitcoin-Qt 0.6.2) is hard coded in and therefore can never be mined. I'm grateful for your pointing that out. Also, you're right an altcoin would involve running your very own block explorer which can monitor transactions and blocks. I apologize if my earlier remarks left any ambiguity, and am grateful for the chance to make myself clearer.

If you already know genesis block on Bitcoin is hard coded, i don't understand why you write statement "The blockchain client must be configured to mine the Genesis block." ?



And while we're at it, there are other questionable reply made by you.

Hello

I want to broadcast Bitcoin transactions using python's socket library.Now I can sign a transaction. But when sock is used to link other nodes, it is not known what information should be transmitted.The node I am linking to is protocol version 70016.I tried to find information on bitcoin.org.

This is the site I was looking for:
https://developer.bitcoin.org/reference/p2p_networking.html#protocol-versions

But it doesn't show how protocol 70016 works.I want to know which website I should visit for the 70016 version of the Bitcoin protocol.

Kindly check the Bitcoin core source code https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin to know the details about Bitcoin protocol version 70016 and explore Bitcoin Improvement Proposals so that you can understand how it works and understand broadcast transactions using Python's socket library.

This is very vague answer. Bitcoin Core has tons of code and most people don't know where to start inspecting the code. In addition, there are 163 BIP out there.

how does this work in Wasabi wallet? do I simply have to leave the CoinJoin running until 100% privacy is reached for my wallet? and is 100% possible or will it get near 100%? If hundred percent is reached, is it better to leave the coins on the current wallet or send everything to a new one?
The level of privacy attached to CoinJoin in the Wasabi wallet is not concrete but depends on the number of people participating and the quantity of the mixed amount. It drives privacy to 100; however, not every time it is left running leads it, it always improves it. As such, after one is contented with the privacy, it is ideal to move the coins to another wallet.

FAQ on Wasabi Wallet website says different thing.

Why does the privacy progress change if I select a different coinjoin strategy?

The privacy progress is influenced by the anonymity score target. If the coinjoin strategy is changed to one with a different anonnymity score target, this will cause the privacy progress to increase or decrease.

From those quoted FAQ, we can see chosen CoinJoin strategy is major factor on how Wasabi Wallet calculate percentage of privacy progress.
104  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Bitcoin development tapscript C# seemingly unsolvable task on: May 02, 2024, 10:03:00 AM
I'm taking advantage of an ordinal block explorer to by giving the envelope the ordinal identifier "ord" so the SHA256 hash is picked up on the ordinal block explorer where my app can read the hash.

And regular block explorer can show OP_RETURN data.

Even though I am using the ordinal envelope and using an ordinal block explorer to read the data, this is not an ordinal in a traditional sense. Every user on my app will write 1 ordinal as a registering function for my app. It will not clog up the bitcoin blockchain and will not spam the bitcoin network. Gas fees will not go up because of my app, don't worry. 

Bitcoin user will be impacted if your application is popular enough. And if your application is centralized, i don't understand why you chose not to use either email address or phone number.
105  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Future of testnet3 network. on: May 02, 2024, 10:00:08 AM
I don't know whether any of you run testnet full node, but i just found out my testnet full node has total size 71GB.

Code:
$ du -d 2 -h
594M    ./indexes/blockfilter
361M    ./indexes/coinstats
6.0G    ./indexes/txindex
6.9G    ./indexes
450M    ./blocks/index
56G     ./blocks
7.8G    ./chainstate
71G     .

I'm also surprised chainstate folder has size 7.8GB. So i decide to run gettxoutsetinfo and got following statistic which state there are currently 116.8 million UTXO.

Code:
{
  "height": 2810692,
  "bestblock": "000000000000009910d22b6f04ef25d718350863560ea24a85da54e666127e4f",
  "txouts": 116842453,
  "bogosize": 9425932147,
  "hash_serialized_3": "ba355559e0d1c5de59ec7e512a7ef374e0df01be653d60424db397cd84dae801",
  "total_amount": 20997039.32915585,
  "transactions": 64934575,
  "disk_size": 8364679205
}

it's not easy to obtain testnet3 coins these days.
There has always been faucets giving coins and the only complains I've seen so far have been from people who want large amounts and the worst part is that I have not seen any reasonable arguments for needing such amounts as opposed to using something like regtest.
So I wouldn't say "it is not easy to obtain testnet coins".

You're right, but mining tBTC become more challenging. Not only due to lower reward, but also due to higher hashrate/difficulty[1]. And i notice there are less tBTC faucet these days. At least, it's not as easy as few years ago.

[1] https://mempool.space/testnet/graphs/mining/hashrate-difficulty#all
106  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Taproot in Electrum on: May 02, 2024, 09:32:54 AM
Would you change your mind if you know Sparrow Wallet have these feature?
1. Connect to Electrum server.
2. Import and export Electrum wallet.

I typically don't like bitcoin software that's too big or too complex or too capable of handling too many things. I like it as simple as it can possibly be.
And I don't like JAVA shit.

In this case, i only can either say wait until Electrum support Taproot or check other relevant wallet listed on https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5371499.0. And unless you prefer compile wallet from source code (rather than download binary), i don't understand why you bring up Java.
107  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Future of testnet3 network. on: May 01, 2024, 01:00:59 PM
I didn't see anyone discuss about it in this forum, but last week Jameson Lopp decide to attack testnet3 network to prove a vulnerability[1]. If you either attempt to use testnet3 recently or follow the news, you probably know it's not easy to obtain testnet3 coins these days. On top of that, recent Runes hype makes some people decide to add arbitrary data to testnet3 blockchain[3]. With some developer discussing new testnet network (not Signet)[4], i wonder how long will testnet3 remain usable and supported.

[1] https://beincrypto.com/jameson-lopp-bitcoin-testnet-griefing-attack/
[2] https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/testnet/
[3] https://protos.com/halving-excitement-pumps-worthless-bitcoin-testnet/
[4] https://groups.google.com/g/bitcoindev/c/9bL00vRj7OU
108  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Taproot in Electrum on: May 01, 2024, 12:23:01 PM
I would go with either Sparrow for desktop, or Unstoppable if you're looking for a mobile solution.
Thank you but no. I am a die hard electrum fan.

Would you change your mind if you know Sparrow Wallet have these feature?
1. Connect to Electrum server.
2. Import and export Electrum wallet.
109  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Bitcoin development tapscript C# seemingly unsolvable task on: May 01, 2024, 12:18:31 PM
Btw, I know that creating Bitcoin inscriptions or anything that could be considered similar to an ordinal or BRC-20 is somewhat controversial but that's not the goal here. I want to create an inscription to build an app that requires a TINY AMOUNT of "hard" storage stored in the form of an inscription. It's SUPER TINY (literally the size of a sha-256 hash) and not going to clog up Bitcoin but I just can't find anyone that can help me fix the bug in my script. Does anyone know how to make by C# script work like my Javascript script does?

Since you only want to include output of SHA-256 hash (which have size 256-bit or 32-byte), you better use OP_RETURN. I didn't do any research, but i expect there should be C# library which let you create Bitcoin TX with OP_RETURN support since OP_RETURN has been around for 10+ years.
110  Economy / Reputation / Re: Users who spread false/fake/unhelpful information on technical board on: May 01, 2024, 12:12:31 PM
User: MicroScript

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By configuring your Raspberry Pi 5 to adopt both an IPv4 and IPv6, Core Bitcoin will use an IPv6 addressing whenever it is available. Certainly, TOR can be the best way to solve the issue of inbound connections in order not to freak out the central server. The TOR bridges in place ensure complete anonymity provided in TOR. Responding to any possible problem of CGNAT or unstable IPv4 to make your full node approachable and anonymous.

1. Bitcoin is decentralized, so there's no thing such as "central server".
2. Tor Bridge is designed to avoid censorship, see https://support.torproject.org/censorship/censorship-7/. In addition, there's no thing such as complete, absolute or 100% anonymity.

The bitcoins from lobstr wallet er not real are they ?

I have just received 0.03 BTC but I can not swap them or do anything but send them

https://stellar.expert/explorer/public/tx/7ef95f23fc76be72d6ac117dbe4a0f97eb6e9a5c76d616255d65fd1d314de983

Your Bitcoins in Lobster Wallet are actually real. Lobster is a wallet for Stellar Network, not Bitcoin. Your transaction is not related to Bitcoin. It is related to Stellar Lumens (XLM). It is not possible to trade bitcoins in your Lobster Wallet because Lobster Wallet is designed for Stellar. For Bitcoin transactions, you need to use a Bitcoin Core wallet or a hardware wallet like Ledger or Treasure.

1. Statement "Your Bitcoins in Lobster Wallet are actually real." and "Lobster is a wallet for Stellar Network, not Bitcoin." are conflicted.
2. Bitcoin Core and hardware wallet aren't the only Bitcoin wallet out there.

Thank you.
i compiled it but i dont know how to mine the genesis block.
can you help me?


The blockchain client must be configured to mine the Genesis block. Your blockchain client's configuration file for mining should include the algorithm, Coinbase address, difficulty target, and more ancillary settings. After configuring now start mining using the 'start mining' command or you can give the mining command through the user interface. After starting mining you need to monitor whether the correct blocks are being mined successfully. You can verify with Blockchain Explorer whether the Genesis block has been successfully added to the blockchain after it has been mined.

1. The thread talks about modifying Bitcoin-Qt 0.6.2 client. So statement "The blockchain client must be configured to mine the Genesis block" is wrong since genesis block is hardcoded on Bitcoin. See https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Genesis_block.
2. If you create your own altcoin, that means you also need to run your own block explorer for your altcoin.
111  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Help with a bit of information on mining history on: May 01, 2024, 11:34:00 AM
Thanks for the links, I'm trying to put together something about the security of the chain for a week but it's really far more complicated than I thought, sounded like a fun essay in my mind but it way over my head.

Yeah, security of Bitcoin blockchain could be very complicated. Although if you're writing essay for school or university homework, you don't have to be that detailed.

I read conflicting statements about that, hard for me to grasp but some guys talked about stopping mining when at a loss being even more of a loss, I understand that this would have been the case for companies not home miners but at the same time I don't think one could get their hands on the accounting sheets of a large company.

Some mining company are public company, so you might able to get rough idea from their financial report.
112  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: (Ordinals) BRC-20 needs to be removed on: May 01, 2024, 10:43:47 AM
Quote from: ABCbits
You talk as if OP_RETURN, segwit and taproot bring no advantage. Should we remind you to few of these facts?
leave "memos" (aka OP_RETURN) to yellow sticky notes on your refrigerator. i wouldn't have it my crypto system.
Yes SegWit did solve the transaction malleability issue and improved signature verification time but i don't have an issue with those bug fixes. i don't think an entirely new address type was needed though. we need to keep things SIMPLE.
I don't find Taproot to be a compelling argument. or necessity.
but thanks for your insights.

But on long term, witness version on Bech32m address format makes it's easier to deploy new feature or technology. Legacy address doesn't offer such thing, where you're forced to "wrap stuff" inside P2SH address which is less simple than using Bech32m. I also forget to mention Taproot upgrade also bring aggregated signature feature which also reduce TX size.

Quote from: vjudeu
2. Why not restrict it to only valid public key coordinates, to have all existing UTXOs always "mathematically spendable"?
This is interesting and I have thought also about a related idea, but can it be proven that a private key exists for a given public key?

My related idea was a kind of "invitation-only" coin: that you have to derive a key always from another key and announce this derivation with a mathematic proof that it is spendable before you can transact value to them (i.e. create a challenge based on that PK). This would allow that only "spendable" keys could be created. But first, I'm unsure about the math, and second, that would not be really an "open", "free" cryptocurrency.

Perhaps also a proof that a public key is spendable is possible without deriving the key from an existing one?

However I believe even that can be used for data storage, but it would already make it more difficult (not necessarily more expensive though).

I also wonder whether it could be exploited as new form of DoS attack to SPV client and full node.
113  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: what happend !! on: April 30, 2024, 10:42:27 AM
Is there really 1929868153955269923726183083478131797547292737984581739710086052358636024906 pages? Each page have 60 keys. I can not calculate the total number. Is it really possible?

2^256 divided by 1929868153955269923726183083478131797547292737984581739710086052358636024906 have result 60. But that website never generate such amount of pages. It's only generated when someone visit certain page number. Just try accessing random page number such as https://privatekeyfinder.io/private-keys/bitcoin/1929868153955269923726183083478131797547292737984581739710086052358636014906.
114  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: what happend !! on: April 30, 2024, 10:05:19 AM
Looking at "time" column, usually there's only 0-2 activity per day. Looking at "created" column, there's no obvious pattern between each address. So i only can speculate some Bitcoin holder either,
1. Move their coin to different address, either because they used old software or wanting better security by using different wallet.
2. Sell their coin after finding out Bitcoin price rising a lot in past few months.
115  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: (Ordinals) BRC-20 needs to be removed on: April 30, 2024, 09:57:55 AM
Ah, yes, the inevitable "I could do a better job" comment.  Go on, then.  Show us all how it's done.  Except you never will.
You had quite a long post there and i can't respond to every single question but i think you understand the issues involved.

Satoshi did a better job. If they would have just left it that way. But instead they had to introduce things like OP_RETURN, segwit and taproot. What do you think the end result of all that is going to be? that's right. a huge mess.

I don't hold satoshi responsible for all this mess though. If people want to store data on the blockchain, they should have to pay through the nose but then they would never do it in the first place most likely. Just like it never caught on before all these upgrades took place. "upgrades".

Satoshi showed us how it's done.

You talk as if OP_RETURN, segwit and taproot bring no advantage. Should we remind you to few of these facts?
1. OP_RETURN created mainly to reduce P2PKH abuse by encoding 20-byte of arbitrary data as public key hash. It means less UTXO which will never be used.
2. SegWit practically solve transaction malleability and quadratic sighash problem.
3. Taproot let you only reveal part of the script. It means slightly better privacy and less TX size.

OK, so how is your plan?
Surprisingly, the plan would be similar to the original bitcoin. Only a few transaction types. No OP RETURN no nothing like that.
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The challenge is that you can actually not allow anything which can be used for arbitrary data. For example, probably publicly visible fields for values with a large number of digits could be enough. Public key hashes too, like I demonstrated in the post I linked above.
Only have one transaction type. Pay to public key hash. That really is all I would have. The simpler the better and less exploitable it is. No upgrades for higher level functionality, nothing like that. Only bug fixes if necessary. But no new "features". Doing one thing and doing it well is all that really is necessary. Bitcoin has kind of lost that with all these ugrades and things. And we see the end result.

Thank you for the question. Cool

Only P2PKH? I guess we should say goodbye to multi-signature address, address with "inheritance" feature, LN, sidechain and other innovations.
116  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Wasabi wallet percent of privacy on: April 30, 2024, 09:47:10 AM
Your question already answered by it's documentation.

How long does it take to make my wallet 100% private?

Depending on many factors, like the Anonymity score target, the coinjoin strategy, and the amount of bitcoin, it can take from a couple hours to multiple days.

What does the privacy progress mean?

The privacy progress tile represents the percentage of how private the wallet is. It considers the anonymity score weighted amounts instead of just amounts that reached the anonymity score threshold. The private value is the total amount that reached the anonscore threshold.

But aside from what other member said, there's no thing such as absolute or 100% privacy.
117  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Coinbase rewards on: April 30, 2024, 09:26:22 AM
Certainly! Coinbase rewards, also known as block rewards, are the mechanism by which new bitcoins are created and distributed to miners for validating transactions and securing the blockchain. Here's how it works:

Mining Process: Miners use powerful computers to solve complex mathematical problems that confirm and add transactions to the blockchain, a decentralized ledger of all transactions in the Bitcoin network.

Validating Transactions: When a miner successfully solves a block, they compile a list of transactions and create a new block. This block includes a special transaction called the "coinbase transaction" which contains the newly generated bitcoins as well as any transaction fees collected from the included transactions.

Creating New Bitcoins: The coinbase transaction is the first transaction in each block, and it's how new bitcoins are introduced into circulation. These newly created bitcoins are the miner's reward for successfully mining the block.

Halving: The number of bitcoins generated per block is halved approximately every four years, in an event called the "halving." This reduction is programmed into the Bitcoin protocol and is designed to control inflation and limit the total supply of bitcoins to 21 million.

Satoshi's Preprogramming: When Satoshi Nakamoto created Bitcoin, they preprogrammed the software to include the rules for generating new bitcoins. This includes the initial block reward of 50 bitcoins per block, which was halved to 25 bitcoins in November 2012, then halved again to 12.5 bitcoins in July 2016, and so on.

So, in summary, miners receive their bitcoins as a reward for successfully mining a new block, and this reward is embedded in the coinbase transaction within that block. Satoshi Nakamoto designed the protocol to gradually release new bitcoins into circulation while also controlling the rate of issuance through the halving mechanism.

Did you use ChatGPT? Your statement contain some wrong information.
1. Statement "Miners use powerful computers..." isn't accurate since miner actually specialized hardware (a.k.a. ASIC). Computer in general have far lower efficiency compared with ASIC.
2. Statement "When a miner successfully solves a block, they compile a list of transactions and create a new block." doesn't make sense. Miner supposed to collect unconfirmed transaction (usually based on highest fee rate), then create block using those unconfirmed transaction first.
3. Coinbase rewards also let miner claim transaction fee included on block they mine.
118  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Help with a bit of information on mining history on: April 30, 2024, 08:56:28 AM
I'm not a newbie by any means more of a lurker but reading lately a few topics about mining and the speculation on price I've started to think about another kind of relation between the piece and the hashrate as well as the chain security, it's a bit fuzzy in my mind and I don't have a clear path to it, I'm too much focused on the result than how to arrive the there that I would need a bit of help with some information

- What were the key moments in ASIC releases, or what models did have a huge impact on the hashrate?
I should choose the S3,S9,S17,S19 for this considering them a game changer?

Bitcoin Mining Museum[1] can partially answer your question. That website contain history of Bitcoin mining along with popular hardware at certain time.

- What would be a realistic time frame since launch of a new generation ASIC to consider it dominant in making the overall hashrate?

Only ASIC company can answer that. But FWIW, there's almost 4 years gap between release of Antminer S19[1] and Antminer S21[3].

- What would be the lifetime of an ASIC on average?

Compass Mining (which is known for mining hosting service) says 3-5 years[4].

- Is it safe to consider a miner with extremely cheap energy keeping on mining with an old but still profitable gear till the gears fails?

Yes, i've seen some miner claim they're doing that since old ASIC have low resell value.



[1] https://bitcoinminingmuseum.com/
[2] https://www.asicminervalue.com/miners/bitmain/antminer-s19-95th
[3] https://www.asicminervalue.com/miners/bitmain/antminer-s21-200th
[4] https://compassmining.io/education/how-long-do-asics-last/
119  Local / Mining (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Apollo Miner: Solusi Menambang dan Full Node Bitcoin di Rumah on: April 30, 2024, 08:41:05 AM
Meskipun produk dari Apollo Miner cukup menarik untuk sebagian Bitcoin enthusiast, sebenarnya produk dari Apollo memiliki kelemahan yang sama dengan ASIC USB miner. Hal yang saya maksud adalah penggunaan chipset mining yang sudah terbilang outdated atau cukup lama, dimana hal ini juga terjadi pada produk Apollo sebelumnya[1].
Kalau pada thread yang agan tautkan, itu kan Apollo versi pertama, sedangkan katanya yang versi kedua ini sudah menggunakan teknologi 5nm terbaru. Yang versi dua, ini linknya guys: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5492150.0 cuma ini adalah founder edition buat Sultan.

Link yang saya sertakan memang merujuk ke Apollo versi pertama atau sebelumnya. Tetapi yang ingin saya sampaikan adalah Apollo versi pertama juga menggunakan chipset mining yang outdated ketika produk tersebut diluncurkan.
120  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Can what happened to Samourai Wallet happen to Electrum ? on: April 29, 2024, 10:31:34 AM
Hello,

I saw that the founders of Samourai Wallets were arrested and that the website to download the wallet was frozen. I guess this has made users of this wallet unsecured.
Do you think this can happen to other software wallets ? Especially Electrum ?

Yes, assuming government don't want their citizen store Bitcoin or altcoin on self-custodial wallet. But for now, there aren't many excuse to get rid of Electrum or other wallet. Electrum by default doesn't offer much privacy either.

Electrum does not have the capability of mixing so it should not be affected.

It does thanks to Joinstr - https://www.coinjoins.org/wallets/joinstr

But Joinstr is not bundled with Electrum or even mentioned once on its website. What are you on about?

In addition, the website clearly state it's not available on Bitcoin mainnet for now.
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