I think it indeed got out of control i actually hardly check the altcoin section anymore because its so full with this giveaways, but maybe there should be a limited amount allowed and absolutely not the same coins promoted all the time.
I think the biggest issue is that these guys constant make new threads to get attention which actually for me does the opposite, i simply ignore them fully.

Its absolutely not usefull to use bitcoin for most people and shops.
I posted elsewhere a complete list why.

Everyone i know and their friends and family see bitcoin/crypto as a criminal tool and stay far away from it.
There is so much crap and scamming going on in the crypto world that you can not even find positive news if you wanted it.
Believe me i lost a lot of friends because i am in involved with the crypto industry to make a small profit.

And i disagree fully on the old argument that more is payed in dollars crime related ( because you have no clue how much is used ) , lets make one thing clear bitcoin became also a succes because of the silkroad and other drug related tradings which was being done together with mtgox.
I already have dropped a trader who claimed he sold drugs with bitcoins, this person used tormail and other tor related stuff to hide his identity.
Even the accounts he used from a bank turned out to be from a person who died many years ago (identity theft)
This kinda criminals are very hard to get for law enforcement, because they do use puppets who act in their behalve.
Most of them drug addicts who get a score from the guy who hired them, ofcourse not the real criminal who never shows his face.

Second alot of media already stated that the coins are being used by IS like organisations so i think there must be some incidents where proof has been produced.

So how can you convince people its not as tainted.
Another reason is its too slow if i use my bankcard i can pay here and now instant less than a second at most 25 seconds. Everywhere and anywhere.
How you wanna do that with bitcoin ?!?? and i do not even start about to get the bitcoin in the first place.
 

Add the netherlands to that list
I know for a fact that the USA has a huge impact on some EU states, especially because of the huge financial power they have over them (think of import/export)
The top developer seems to know who he/she/it (Satoshi) is and claimed to have talked to it about btc 2.0.

Well if you look at what has been announced you should know that some people was investigating a blockchain as a backbone.
However they never mentioned they would use the bitcoin chain, and if i understood the news well they are totally not related to bitcoin.
So bitcoin would never gain any benefit from that backbone

The reason why its not adopted as much as people would like to see, one of the reasoins is that most are technical people using it.
People like my friends and family do not come near bitcoin, they think its scary has huge risks and is way to complicated to use.
And lets be honest the adoption is also not something to be proud of only a few shops really accepted bitcoin
That microsoft has put a pay in bitcoin in the shop is a good thing, but that still does not solve the problem with gettting bitcoins.
See if i get out my bankcard i can pay instant with (ideal/mastercard) in shops, on the internet and even on markets  with this method. ( really in seconds )
Just pull the card and the merchants have a small device on the counter which handles the pays or they have a portable device.
The second thing about it is that there is minor security available if some of your funds gets stolen, then you can claim a payback at the bank or governement.

With bitcoin you have to have a receive address, then find an exchange to get bitcoin.
Then when you bought the bitcoin have to wait an enormous long time till it actually gets onto that address
After that you need to find out if you can securely pay the bitcoins from your deposit to the address which is for the merchant.
This merchant has to wait another long period of time that the bitcoins arrive and worse he can loose money because the value can change so fast that he might loose money, ofcourse if its going up they never would complain.
By the time this very nasty way of paying works you have spend a few hours getting funds at the place you want it.

So yes its a fast way of paying (international) if no hurry is involved compared to money orders done by banks (usually several days/weeks) depending where you send it  
For instance if i send money to england it will take about 1 to 3 days, if i send money to india it can take up to a 2 months.

Long story short for normal people to use btc its way too complex and poses too many risks for them and the merchants.
Thats why i pay much more for my btc payements than when i use my bankcard. If i order for example a laptop i pay at ideal 750 the same laptop with btc costs me 1000 euro thats including the exchange costs and the money transfers

Just ignore those sell your coin and buy my coin messages, because thats what it is .... pure nonsense
It shows how desperate some people are to get the coins they got the most to get any value

Actually i think cloudminr is cheaper if you buy bigger amounts because you get VIP price after a certain amount.
I have been this far pretty satisfied with cloudminr.io every sunday night i get paid like clockwork.
Also has neat option to auto buy new and often they offer big discounts. up to 30% sometimes.
They do not pay insane high amounts, but after i made my initial ROI i will add more and new power as soon as i can.
So the payouts are weekly so you would need indeed at least 50 Th to get that 3.5 btc a week.

I wonder whats not a scam in crypto ...

The only way to make sure that your out of google is to use for instance gmail/google+ and logout using the top bar, i agree its pretty hidden for most users but you could have known google actually wants you to never logout (they allways wanna spy on you ).
The downside is if you use google for syncing data (bookmarks and stuff), anything after you logged off will not be synced.
I found if you do not really logoff even opening a private browser page is being tracked by google... so its pretty persistened.

1/10 becauseyou have no avatar as well

LoL switserland is not part of the EU, the countries paying for the greeks is done mostly by germany and the netherlands.
I pretty pissed about the way the greeks look at the mess they created themselfs
We in the netherlands have to work till 67 the greeks stop working at 55 another issue with the greeks is they hardly ever pay taxes.
So for me greece is a enormous black hole where the eu states has put in money since they became part of the eu and never changed anything.
The country suffers like many other tourist economy countries by lack of tourists but they have not done anything besides eating up others money.
I would not be suprised if the usd will pass the euro, all huge multinationals have their contracts made in dollars, these multinationals am complaining and pulling their puppets in every governement so now the big buyup will start which actually is absolute not needed at all.
My view is that the dollar will pass the euro after several huge buys from governement debts.
 

 

It is clear why as a seller nobody want to deal with the chargeback deals, from what i sold almost 95% of the sales turned out to be a scam
I have done several ebay, paypal sells and ended up loosing my money. The so called buyers made a chargeback and poof gone my sold items and my money.
They simply provide the largest and easiest scam people without any problem service.
Now the most annoying is when i bought 1 freaking defect item and tried to get paid back, paypal refused to do so.
Its pretty funny that one who got stolen for a lot of money was not able to get back $100.
Obvious result is i am more cautious and no longer accept paypal or ebay at all, i removed my accounts and never use them again.
I wonder how amazon handles sales because i bought a few second hand items but they seem never came from the people mentioned selling, its almost if amazon is in the middle and checks the sold items. But i have never tried selling anything on amazon especially because it would involve alot of international shipping.
 
However there is not any real large trading site having a pay with bitcoin here.
On the other hand you still have the problem that if your the buyer you get scammed, so either way you never am sure unless your the seller.

Well i disagree that its initiated by a whale, especially in bitcoin there are not many out there who could dump btc enough to make a difference.
However a group of large owners would very possible.
Its easy for example banks to easily play with bitcoin because for them the total value of bitcoin still is pocket money for large banks.
But i do not believe these greeders to take a risk of loosing one of their precious cents they took from your income.
They rather spend it on ceo, board of directors, traders and the likes in salary.

I sure not believe btc will get anything near that amount this your or next year

Its a wise decision to limit risks, even though for most people these measures seem to be overdone.
Simply another point in the forum secured and posing less risk to get anything nasty.

Right rich AND honest really....
Its like watching a soap

All the woman i know and met stay far away from any crypto industry and probably never will use it.
They do not want to hashle with the trade fiat to whatever, or go whatever exchange to get coins.
All say its a hype and much to complicated and too much criminality going on, it has not come closer for them one bit.
They do not trade on the other side of the globe, they want it instant and now and near.
Crypto has nothing to offer them what they do not have now, ideal/bankcards work easier and faster than any crypto solution.
And i kinda must agree with them after so many years in crypto, nothing has been accomplished besides the never ending buying hardware for bitcoin mining from mostly shady hardware vendors.
Yes you can buy some things with btc, but if you look at the shops do you see a bitcoin accepted message in any big super market .... no
I asked the group of ladies i know to give a opinion and it basically ended in PFfffffff no way.
 

You really think they are sitting still and not am busy developing new more efficient miners ... really?

Anyone want to buy 11673 STK
Ofcourse above number will increase with the daily stakes
If so contact me by pm

Meh forgot to add hiro wallet for those who wanted to sync at my node machine
Repaired the startup so soon will be help syncing
The wallet still running fine as far as i can see, needs some ideas to get the coin going
Lost a lot of the coins when mintpal disappeared, as far as i can see the thief not sold much