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10341  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A vaccine too early could be dangerous. on: August 13, 2020, 03:25:34 PM
no

russia done phase 2 (few humans)
russia is doing a (few thousand) mass test in october.. thus it IS THE PHASE 3.. its not millions its thousands
thy are limiting it to jsut doctors and teacher who can give more reliable answers

you seem to have created a new topic to say the same misguided stuff that was said in another topic.


the UK and US had not even completed phase 2
the UK and US already started making large batches for multiple milllions

UK stated phase 3 before even finishing phase 2

russia is waiting 2 months to begin phase 3 because that is actually better time to see if there are after effects of phase 2 even after passing phase 2 last month

strangely america and UK skipped more steps but are not ahead of russia.. and thats what scares them
10342  Other / Politics & Society / Re: It's time for EUROPE to become SOCIALIST on: August 13, 2020, 11:12:11 AM
Is that mask any worse than pharma and banking billionaires paying over $1 billion for a yacht. Especially as the money is made from debt slavery, or selling over priced poisons through the medical services.

in europe people dont buy medical treatment. people get it through the NHS for FREE

i know your stupidly reading american conspiracy scripts. especially when you use the american currency.
but try to have an independant thought about the realities of actual UK

your starting to get too obvious your thoughts are coming from fiction sites not factual sites


.....

anyway
yes eurupe has strong ties to the capitalist tax havens where by most of the tax income into treasury is from the working classes not the uber rich.

however socialism is not just about who pays in.. but also what the funds are used for
if europe took away the military offense(invading other countries) and only funded military defense(within its borders)
that would free up alot of funds
if europe stopped supporting other continents 'relief donations' and instead kept the money for its on citizens then the lifestyle of its citizens would increase

yes using tax money to fund raising the living standards of the working class and not funding R&D grants for 'for profit' corporations would help
but thinking that europes healthcare systems are 'for profit' where people have to buy healthcare with their credit card.. just shows you have not got out the house and seen the real world in the UK where you live. and instead just taking some american conspiracy script as your reality
10343  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Will CANZUK replace the EU? on: August 13, 2020, 12:43:49 AM
EU president is just a glorified superviser to the MEP in EU parliament

the EU council president however directs and points the council in the direction of whats a priority and whats important
the council is the most important part. not the MEP

MEP are just spokesman asking (indirectly) the council to make their wishes a priority
the council then tells the commission to formal draft the priority into law and then the MEP agree it explains their wishes. and then the EU president hands it to the EU treasry to make it into a 'bil' to create funding to invest in the now legalised wishes

the councils are basically the guys with the whips, slapping people into action and doing a certain thing.

the councils are the prime-ministers of the eu countries

and so the MEP are the lower tier echo chambers of wishes the citizens might like and hoping the council hears those wishes

so yea its not the MEP its the individual EU countries prime ministers supervised by the council president

when local countries elections happen. people vote on their local 'brand' of politics.
each brand doesnt let citizens vote on who the leader of that brand is. but the local brand members do

so it is election based. but the citizens didnt vote in the top leader
..

anyway now i corrected you on how EU politics work.. ill make this simple explanation
if EU individual countries left the EU then there is no council and no MEP

however saying they would leave due to no military decision in nato due to jetcash myths of canzuk takeovers. wont disband the EU
the EU model is based on politics and economy not military

it would have to be a economic decision to leave the EU not a military decision

other highlights is that brussels has to be very friendly wish france just as much as the UK
because france has economic ties to the caribbean islands canada and some Polynesian/asian area's

its really worth digging into the overlaps to see the spiders web catching the flies rather then getting freaked out by the spider
10344  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Fauci says the vaccine will only be about 50% effective. on: August 13, 2020, 12:11:16 AM
PCR is just a machine. that was not designed for covid. it had multiple purposes

its the specific chemicals and other equipment that is used in combination that is the diagnostic mechanism for covid

yes it includes centrifuges during this PCR test
and the funny part is you think only centrifuges alone is all that needed and you have many times been crying out that centrifuges is the only way..

not realising that its a combination of many processes in one

a centrifuge alone is meaningless. because you then have to extract and the test the bit you extracted.
so dont play dumb thinking a centrifuge alone is the real way
so dont play dumb that PCR is the alone process and thus not the real way

and just wake up and understand theres more complexity to it of multiples processes under the umbrella term 'pcr test'
10345  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russia plan to use untested vaccine against the coronavirus on: August 13, 2020, 12:05:23 AM
lockdown not the same as pandemic

pandemic is about the negative health thing hurting people around the world
the virus is the 'negative health thing'
the lockdown is the action to surpress the negative health thing FROM OVERRUNNING hospitals

if there was no risk of a hospital overrun. there would be no lockdown
but it would still be classed as a pandemic if people around the world were getting sick enough to affect their life even if they didnt get sick enough to need hospital

if no one was getting sick. then there would be no pandemic and nothing to need immunisation against

10346  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Lockdown easing - I'm back in the cafe on: August 12, 2020, 11:55:12 PM
i know jetcash is saying 'seed oil' and 'hamburgers' because of a specific video he watched (yea jetcash's words are just that obvious)

truth is weight gain is caused by a multitude of things

did you know that 2 litres of water weights 2kg

so if you are drinking more then 2litres of water but only peeing out less than 2litres due to bladder issues or kidney issues. you will gain weight
yep even excessive water can be bad for you

did you know heart issues where your body doesnt circulate blood as well (low blood pressure) can cause your body to (due to gravity) pump fluids down your body easily. but not bring them back up as easily
you can usually spot this with people with puffy hands and feet (elasticated socks mark your legs) and clubbed fingers and puffy hands
this is a sign of weight gain due to water retention, due to heart issues

its not even just 'eating too much' yes there is some about what your eating. but also if your not excreting the food out of the other end. your not removing it.

other things like blood oxygen
if your body is not getting enough oxygen due to smoking . then you are not combusting the fats as effectively thus not burning the fat. thus not helping

there are a multitude of reasons. even some mitochondrial defects and other growth hormone and metabolic defects.

trying to think its just 'seed oil' and 'hamburgers' is not even right. but it making it obvious jetcash didnt even think about his post and is just watching a video and repeating what it says to make it seem like he knows. when all he is doing is just repeating a video

..
most funny part of the posts above
badecker syas yesterday 'if only i could learn to lose weight
badecker today says some naive advice as if he has learned

so badecker, maybe take more then just 1 day to learn something especially if it involves taking a week to try something.
10347  Other / Politics & Society / Re: BREAKING NEWS: Man left with 3 month ERECTION after plastic surgery on nose ! on: August 12, 2020, 11:38:11 PM
Exactly, how did surgery on his nose make him a priapism victim?

he is blaming anaesthesia. but anaesthesia would happen while he was under. and the doctors would notice it and try to help him. before leaving the hospital

by it happening later where doctors didnt do anything and it taking 3 months before he got it treated suggests something else was going on. and he didnt seek treatment the first night the erection didnt go away

assumption/speculation is that his body image problem may mean he is also injecting testosterone to be more masculine. and obviously body image problems may be linked to depression which some antidepressants cause it

other things like aspirin pain killers used for pain and reduce inflamation are usually the cheap over the counter medication people having surgery use. although its not recommended for such post surgery use as it too can cause the erectile issues

so it could be (seems logical) that he mixed alot of things and it just sparked a persistant erection for 3 months.


..
my other assumption/suggestion is that he never had side effects for that stupidly long time. and is just saying something clickbaity to advertise his business hoping the fame/custom would pay for his habit/hobby(medical bill)

another assumption. maybe faking side effects hoping to sue the hospital and get his surgery costs removed and extra money ontop to pay for future stuff

(yes im cynical/doubtful/wary person)
10348  Other / Politics & Society / Re: BREAKING NEWS: Man left with 3 month ERECTION after plastic surgery on nose ! on: August 12, 2020, 08:52:20 PM
linking daily mail is a sign not to take the details as 100%

after reading a bit of it..
looks like clickbait for him to advertise how he has had bad experience and so is now starting a business to advise people on best surgeries to have..

seems he is just advertising his business as a 'surgery scout'
10349  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Fauci says the vaccine will only be about 50% effective. on: August 12, 2020, 08:40:43 PM
Quote from: BADecker link=topic=5267657.msg54982942#msg54982942
When you have 100% Covid indicated by PCR, the other steps don't matter.

this is why i think you have no clue

PCR diagnosed covid
analogy
doctor diagnosed illness

what your not understanding is that the doctor uses extra things you dont know to come to the diagnoses
even if an umbrella term is 'doctor' or 'pcr' is used along side diagnosed.. alot more goes into it
other parts, equipment, and processes are involved


once you realise the process involved in a covid test the reagents, primers pipettes, centrifuges, scanners enzymes and other diagnostic stuff..
you start to realise the most important thing. that you just had no clue whats involved
10350  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russia plan to use untested vaccine against the coronavirus on: August 12, 2020, 06:31:57 PM
jetcash / badecker mindset

'we think that only 10% of people hit by a car die from it. so we want everyone to walk into the road and get hit' .. 'we want people to avoid learning to spot the signs of an oncoming car. we want people to not learn about the dangers of cars from other safer methods. we want people to get run over'

those idiotic thoughts sounds like jetcash/badecker are the eugenics guys that want to sell pharma chemical..

the US/UK government are not selling medication to citizens. because.. there is no medication people can take as a daily supplement

the US/UK government are not telling people to get sick and risk death via eugenics plans
yet idiots like jetcash/badecker are pasting in script from their cultish websites that have all the hallmarks of the things they pretend they aint
10351  Other / Politics & Society / Re: China deliberately flooding villages - a taste of the future. on: August 12, 2020, 05:48:10 PM
did you know that the dam builders knew what is the best capacity to hold for its all-year utility. and makes the dam capable of more.
they dont just throw a random wall up with no calculations..


thus when the dam reaches X they can release the excess.

this is not emptying the entire reservoir downstream. this is just releasing 1-5% excess.

the river basin downstream can cope with this. heck they can cope with 10x more than a normal flow day

also this 1-5% is not all released in 0.1 seconds to cause a tsunami wave downstream. but slowly released over time

..
anyway its been many many many days since this topic was created.. and im still waiting for the flood that the OP said happened
im waiting for the deaths that the OP suggests is happening

because strangely this topic title is 'china deliberately flooded villages'.. yet.. still waiting... oh it didnt happen
10352  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Fauci says the vaccine will only be about 50% effective. on: August 12, 2020, 05:38:04 PM
by the way jetcash

UK NHS is not funded by corporate insurers or funded by big pharma
UK NHS is funded by the treasury

instead of reading americanised conspiracy sites and then quoting them as if your talking about UK situation..

actually look at the real UK situation and study the UK statistics.
10353  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Fauci says the vaccine will only be about 50% effective. on: August 12, 2020, 05:34:24 PM
CDC says that we probably catch 1/10 cases that actually have COVID. Meaning that for every 10 cases that there really are, only one of them are caught by tests. Lets consider this for New York where they have about 474k cases that have been confirmed. From that, you could say that another 10x the amount of people have it. So that would mean that 4.7m people in New York had it at a point.

Just for context 20m people live in New York meaning that even on the high end of the scale, that would mean that only about 25% of NY had Corona. Herd immunity isn't achieved until you hit about 75-80%

for once your actually quite accurate
in some area's of NY some neighbourhoods had 69% some had 59% and some had 13%. calculating the populations over all they suggest NY the epicenter city had ~26% overall spread

then outside the city in NY state.. the numbers went below 13%
then outside NY state the numbers were even lower

best guess is about 5% is the upper max spread of all americans. (but suggestions are much lower)
funny part is idiots like say badecker who was crying that the lockdown was implemented in his state(arizona) when case numbers were super low.. thus admitting less cases in his state/no cases(when he flips to virus is fake)) .. but then says that his state is somehow then at herd immunity the next time he flips..
thus contradicting his other words
its just stupid how these idiots pretend the virus is fake then suddenly flip to say people already had it. and then even more stupid to say its important to be 'herd immune' while not realising if they really thought it was fake/not harmful. then immunity wont be important as there is no harm

it just shows how stupid these 'we need herd immunity' people are because they dont even understand the crap the talk about
10354  Other / Serious discussion / Re: Testing a vaccine against a low risk virus. on: August 12, 2020, 05:21:43 PM
Nobody has claimed the $5,000 offered by a California doctor to anyone who can provide evidence that a healthy person has died from the Corona Virus.

if someone would rather pay $5000 to get another person to use google. than doing it themselves.. they obviously cant even work a bank account due to lack of ability to google. so doubt they would ever pay out even if provided with proof

look what happened years ago with the other antivaxxer. the court and many peers all verified the proof existed and the guy renigged the existance of the other virus years ago.

just because you renig on paying out/refuse to pay out. does not mean that by not paying = no proof.
not paying out a claim. does not mean there is no proof. it jsut means people cant be bothered to pander to an antivaxxer who is in complete denial and probably wont pay out anyway


it means your a ignorant scum bag that only knows the words 'it didnt happen'
10355  Other / Serious discussion / Re: 12 Coronavirus Autopsy Cases Reveal TRUTH About How Coronavirus Patients Dying on: August 12, 2020, 01:39:33 AM
try looking at NHS websites
in 30 seconds i found 2 studies..
one done using deaths between feb-april
and another from feb-august

where it was 3-4% of people died with no co-morbidities (many hundreds of people(atleast 1300))

so as others suggest. i think its your inability to use google. or avoiding actually getting results that make you not find it

so just actually try finding the data instead of lame excuses to avoid it
10356  Other / Serious discussion / Re: I'm seriously concerned about the money being stuffed down the vaccine toilet. on: August 12, 2020, 01:25:08 AM
They wouldn't have known that STIs spread by sex back then...   Tongue

actually they did

when someone with warts gave it to someone else and they were on their genitals.. it kinda reveals how it was passed.
same with 'crabs'

when they have 'coldsores' (herpies) on their mouth but no one else eating the same diet has it then its not the food. but then finding out that person gives blowjobs to loophole the non penetrative sex clause. then they again find out its genital transmitted

also when gay roman soldiers mingled amungst many people but only had sex with particular guys. the could work out thats its not transmitted through handshakes if only the sexual partners got it

yes back then they knew about diseases and said to follow 'gods' rules to avoid diseases
when calling those who have random sex, unclean. not treating body like a temple, impure
who wil be 'smitted' by disease and death.. well thats saying in modern language. have random unprotected sex and youll get an STD
..
i know you might think that 2000 years ago people were cave dwellers
but did you know that math, writing and even alot of civilised stuff existed
not just making pyramids or colosseums but also having things like bars, hotels, barns, houses. heck they even had a census

..
now think how to implement a government rule with punishment/concequence but without having civilians riot/revolt against the government.
pretend a ghost that no one can see or touch made the rule and the 'government' are just the messengers.
and boom instant laws without the riots/revolts. cant attack what you cant see

here endeth thy history lesson
10357  Other / Serious discussion / Re: The Fat Emperor discusses the evolution of the human diet. on: August 11, 2020, 10:04:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRo5Avw5Qp8&t=2528s

This is another interesting discussion, and it includes some interesting facts about the way we are destroying healthy food. He gives the example of ducks in public parks that are starting to have deformities. This is the result of them being fed on our modern bread.

just so you know at 46min when they said neanderphals evolved because they invented fishing, where they evolved due to (epa/dha)omega 3.. wrong

its actually the iodine which helped the thyroid gland(adams apple)
the greeks learned this thousands of years ago

they invented the word cretin
a 'cretin' was a neanderphal and was due to iodine deficiency/thyroid issues
they also leanred about the thyroid gland and later called it the adams apple
which is where the camp fire stories of ancient rome started to then spread a story to then make it sound more understandable that we evolved due to adam putting an apple in his throat. which later became stories of a garden of eden when the stories tweaked a bit per hearing it at different camp fires

i stopped watching after that as they obviously dont know enough about biology, history

funny part is. it sounds like a conspiracy theory
but the UK tories love calling people cretins. and desire to keep putting chlorine and fluorine in water that does affect the thyroid gland

fluorine in water does not break down and excrete. the diluted amount you drink and the milliseconds it passes your teeth before you swallow wont clean/help your teach but will do damage to your thyroid
so thats the only conspiracy that has merit to warn people not to allow fluorinated drinking water

bread contains bromine that effects the thyroid negatively too
10358  Other / Serious discussion / Re: Testing a vaccine against a low risk virus. on: August 11, 2020, 08:23:41 PM

This is happening here for 3 months and not a single corona case, how is that possible with this deadly virus.

It isn't a deadly virus. I'm still waiting for someone to post a link to a genuine report of a Corona Virus death of a healthy person with not co-morbidities.

maybe you need to search better.
found in 30 seconds (because i was actually looking)
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.23.20076042v1.full.pdf
Quote
Setting–166 UK hospitals between 6th February and 18th April 2020.
Participants-16,749 people with COVID-19.

Overall,
49% of patients were discharged alive,
33% have died
18% continued to receive care when report was done

The median age of those who died in hospital from COVID-19 in the UK was 80 years, and only 12% of these patients had no documented comorbidity

in short out of 16.7k 5.5k died and of those 660 had no comorbidities (of all 16.7k 3.3% died with no comorbidites)

enjoy google a bit more and less head in the sand
by the way. if all the beds were filled due to no lockdown. more patients wouldnt even get the care. meaning the deathrate would be higher even for the no comorbity group

heck another 30 second search
(just ENGLAND (not full uk) NHS covid death)
https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/08/COVID-19-total-announced-deaths-6-August-2020-weekly-file.xlsx.xlsx
         co-morbidities
Age group      Yes      No
Total         27,990     1,388
         
  0 - 19      16          4
20 - 39      179        33
40 - 59      2,016     267
60 - 79      10,592    575
80+           15,187   509
Unknown age      0   0

out of 29.378k england deaths 1.388k deaths had no comorbidities = 4.7%
those aged
  0-19 20% had no co-morbidities
20-39 15% had no co-morbidities
40-59 11% had no co-morbidities
60-70   5% had no co-morbidities
80+     3% had no co-morbidities

basically there are 1388 deaths that you saying dont exist.. or 1388 that do exist that you just cant be assed to find

feb-april it was 3.3%
feb-august it was 4.7%
meaning more people without medical issues died due to covid recently
10359  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russia has developed covid-19 vaccine. on: August 11, 2020, 07:42:09 PM
And also it could be a proud related thing for Russia against other developed nation, especially with USA because Russia still got bullied for not reaching the moon first so this is like Vaccine race between the countries to make themselves as better in the health care system.

russia is part of the international agreement where it will share the vaccine
part of the national agreement is to offset some amounts for the most needed country at the time

right now thats brazil but by october it might be somewhere else. so although they are going to be prepping factories to mass produce vaccines while doing the phase 3
other countries already started prepping factories.
yep UK has 100m and has not said which counties get priority yet. yep100m and they havnt even finished phase 2 even though they started phase 3

i know im repeating myself but it just needs emphasising as some readers take time before it sinks in that there is more to a topic title than the title suggests
10360  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russia plan to use untested vaccine against the coronavirus on: August 11, 2020, 06:45:21 PM

Vaccines are dangerous. Even 4 or 5 year safety studies aren't enough.

If they are going to offer vaccines without safety studies, simply reduce the amounts of HCQ to 200 mg per day, and save thousands of people like they did in this video - https://altcensored.com/watch?v=otRN0X6F81c.

those doctors stitched in labels into their white lab coats of 'frontline' but they are not frontline doctors
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