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9521  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: January 01, 2021, 02:48:55 PM
"..headline from Reuters: Despite hi-tech advances, many Europeans wary of taking COVID shot and that includes more than half of hospital staff."
https://theduran.com/covid-19-vaccine-flops-in-europe-investment-watch/

60 percent of nursing home staff elected not to take covid-19 vaccine
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/532198-ohio-gov-60-percent-of-nursing-home-staff-elected-not-to-take-covid-19

republican complains of pace of vaccine.
republican claims its due to 60% not wanting it.

funny part is the vaccine has only been in ohio for a week. the republican doesnt realise it will take MANY months to vaccinate everyone
if you have 320m people. even if you could vaccinate say 1mill a day. thats still 320 days (10 months)

also the nursing home staff think due to low amount of vaccine. the vulnerable/old that NEED it should get it first and the republican is just saying the nursing home staff should take their dose now because he doesnt know the next time the nursing staff will get a chance later
those saying no now for honorable intentions may not just be relisted at the back of the queue once the old/vulnerable are given theres
9522  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you think COVID19 is a scam? on: January 01, 2021, 02:30:41 PM

Charges filled against the UK government for fraud, based on official documents packed with contradictions.

The first few minutes at the police station reception
https://youtu.be/AiYpAuXx77Q

those idiots sound like they spent too much time in the freeman cult
9523  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you think COVID19 is a scam? on: January 01, 2021, 02:27:50 PM
badecker. tvbcof has already admitted people do get covid and have symptoms by trying to establish that the vaccine wont work because people will still get covid. with or without the vaccine.

so you lost a conspiracy ally. i am just ramming more nails in his foot so he cant run back to conspiracies.


'covid' == 'year 2020's common cold'.  'covid-19' is just the marketing term they put on it for the hoax pandemic operation psy-op of 2020.  Sure the common cold exists, and sure, the common cold causes symptoms.

first of all sars-cov-2 is a new strain that is so varient from 2002 sars and 2012 mers that it causes more death and symptom severity than sars/mers

also is s new that its not 'common' maybe in 2022 once its had a few seasons you can declare it common. but not yet.
also 'colds' are bacteria based. this is viral. so its flu based not cold based. but again for emphasis its not yet common to have already built up immunity
9524  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How long will it take Joe Biden to fulfill a campaign promise to cure cancer on: December 31, 2020, 12:56:22 AM
This is where the credibility of politicians loses. They are promising things that is out of their control and expertise. And that is just normal behaviour of most politicians. Nothing new. Considering that there are so many types of cancer, I don't think even one he can have that cure before his term ends. Reality check here!

things like promising to provide funding to allow the '50 cancer test' blood sample initiative does not mean biden needs to be a blood/cancer expert. he just needs to give grants to a lab that can expand testing blood. the lab then are the experts that do it.

no one is suggesting that biden himself becomes a lab tech. but he certainly and easily can initiate better cancer testing/screening. heck even american insurance companies will pay for it. after all if they can pay $50 now knowing it will save them paying out $40k later. they too would rather have their insured members checked often and not left until stage 4

however the thing that i will think is harder to achieve would be to get citizens to sign on as organ/bone marrow doners. as leukaemia which requires bone marrow is the harder cancer to cure if there is no bone marrow

they can make as much chemo pills as they like but bone marrow is on limited supply. so thats going to be a tougher strategy to initiate
9525  Other / Politics & Society / Re: TODAY THEY WERE FORCED TO ADMIT THAT 'COVID-19' DOES NOT EXIST on: December 31, 2020, 12:48:36 AM
can you do math.. maybe if you could you can caluclate the differences and work it out.
oh you can also maybe if smart enough work out they do obtain the data. they just as a separate page display it in that form.after all how could they have covid+influenza if they didnt atleast collect the influenza data

but even more.. if you were smart you would search the CDC site to see what other reports they had
maybe you want the numbers separated and want more source info rather than sumerised tables
ok. here you go
https://healthdata.gov/dataset/provisional-death-counts-influenza-pneumonia-and-covid-19

(took me 40 seconds to find it)..maybe try doing research next time
9526  Other / Politics & Society / Re: All Canadians to be vaccined. Trudeau orders 40 million vaccines for 38 million on: December 31, 2020, 12:09:02 AM
yes but the terms of the promissory note are clear
all credit agreements/loans/mortgages have clear terms and none of those terms are as you describe that mention people should get paid if they default on their agreement


.. anyway sidestepping back to the canadian/us health system differences..
strangely looking at the all death stats.. most americas die at home. i guess they were too afraid to go to the hospital.

.. anyway side stepping again back to the vaccine discussion in canada

if the vaccine was so dangerous. then we can easily see if the death rate per 100k populous that had vaccine vs deathrate per 100k populous of getting covid. and see which is better to get.. covid or vaccine

by the way. UK had 600k vaccinations in 3 weeks. and no one needed to be put onto ventilators. so far the vaccine is winning the odds

i just checked UK numbers. of those known to have covid- 600k cumulative was hit in first week of october
that same week of october a cumulative count of people needing hospital was 150k
so lets call it 25% needing extra care after getting covid
heck. lets be generous. lets account for the conspiracy exaggerated stat of 50% have it and dont know it.
thus lets call it 12.5% needing hospital care. just to be fair to idiots


lets see if the vaccine has way less hospitalisations.(i guarantee you it will)
9527  Other / Politics & Society / Re: TODAY THEY WERE FORCED TO ADMIT THAT 'COVID-19' DOES NOT EXIST on: December 30, 2020, 11:50:50 PM
Over the top, now. The slippery slope of the people winning over government and medical tyranny has started on its way. It'll be picking up speed as it moves on. We the people win!

Watch the video at the site. Ireland.


TODAY THEY WERE FORCED TO ADMIT THAT 'COVID-19' DOES NOT EXIST



Rumble — Virus not Isolated, HSE (Ireland) forced to admit SarsCov2 (covid 19) No Records scientifically have been found & no records meeting the requirements of the FoIR exist!!!!!
If copying please copy text or write an intro!!!!!
Happy Christmas


Cool
So what about all the infected and deceased how would they explain it?
The whole world has been turn upside down because of it and now they are claiming that it doesn't exist?

It's obvious, isn't it? The sick and dying are sick from something else.

A little deeper explanation is, back in July 2020, the CDC stopped collecting data on the flu and pneumonia.

they stopped in july? how strange
yet theres data all they way upto december 30th
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
9528  Other / Politics & Society / Re: All Canadians to be vaccined. Trudeau orders 40 million vaccines for 38 million on: December 30, 2020, 11:42:28 PM
I debunked you a long time ago on this. All of it is creations of new money. If there is a debt, it's the bank that owes it back to the so-called borrowers.

you have no clue how the money creation occurs. the bank creates the money on the agreement that the guy pays the bank at a later date. if the guy does not pay then the guy is in debt as thats the agreement.
get away from your freeman cult of thinking there is a secret trust that the guy allows the bank access to in creating money. that nonsense was debunked decades ago when the freeman nonsense first started
9529  Other / Politics & Society / Re: All Canadians to be vaccined. Trudeau orders 40 million vaccines for 38 million on: December 30, 2020, 11:32:54 PM
can i just ask what 'benefits' do you think you get for having a corporate healthcare system. im actually interested in your opinion

Lower income taxes. Less dependency on government. Access to faster and higher quality services.

Since I know you’ll dispute my third point, read it again and then read this article: https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/07/15/american-health-care-treats-canadians-who-cannot-wait/

maybe instead of quoting some media site. you should quote the terms and conditions of your medical insurance policy.

yep the limitations and barred procedures list will make you think twice.
UK/canada doesnt have barred procedures
UK/canada doesnt make you have to choose between paying rent or medical co-pays
UK/canada doesnt make you have to choose between saving up for your kids college or having surgury
when you realise paying your monthly premium is actually a tax on your health. you soon learn your 'right to life' is in the hands of corporations

gotta love the long list of exceptions corporate healthcare have.

US has the highest amount of medical debt compared to any other country
UK/canada has no medical debt. no bill comes though their letter box

oh.. and that article..
very funny
pretending people wait months or appendix removals.. HA HA HA
if someone had appendicitis they would be taken straight to hospital and treated that day.
its not something doctors wait around for
but it was a funny read. seems they should have done research.

..
anyway.. out of curiosity
look at how much medical insurance you pay per month
look at how much income tax you pay.
then work out if all hospitals/doctors stayed the same but the bill went to the government and no longer your liability. how much income tax increase you think it will be
remember corporate insurances make profit. so think about the 'at cost' value you would pay/not pay
then think about the lack of 'exceptions' there would be and no having to remember which hospital to request to go to if unconscious to ensure your in coverage.
9530  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you think COVID19 is a scam? on: December 30, 2020, 11:23:06 PM
badecker. tvbcof has already admitted people do get covid and have symptoms by trying to establish that the vaccine wont work because people will still get covid. with or without the vaccine.

so you lost a conspiracy ally. i am just ramming more nails in his foot so he cant run back to conspiracies.

9531  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you think COVID19 is a scam? on: December 30, 2020, 11:02:50 PM
Going to any institution with 'covid-19' seems very risky if said institution gets extra money for treating such patients.  Seems like if they are running out of room they'll kill you as quickly as possible to make room for other $39,000 government checks.  Seems like that was what was happening at Elmhurst in NYC, but they were doing mostly homeless and indigent people with no family that way.

you are reading debunked and outdated scripts from march-may
you are fuy out of date and debunked.

ill explain this once more although i feel i have explained this to you and the other conspiracy nuts several times in different topics

hospitals do not get $39k for just scribbling down covid.
they get paid per task. EG set amounts for using meds, or doing scans or putting on ventilators
those diagnostics are logged. the scans are linked and the procedures are signed off and done and witnessed.
the amounts accumilate depending on how severe the patient gets and how many procedures are needed to be done. .. its not a set fee


so if a patient has just a cough and fever they would not be put onto ards. and no ards procedures done so no ards payment.

yes in some hospitals in february some untrained doctors from the ER department were put onto ICU wards and done wrong things. but those doctors were reprimanded and made to leave the ICU within hours.

i debunked this back before summer when badecker quoted an american ER doctor temporarilly on a ICU ward putting patients onto ARDS protocol. and he was soon dismissed due to it

..
screw it ill even give you the conspiracy quote and how its been further hihjacked deeper into fantasy land

"typically, the diagnosis-related group lump sum payment would be $5,000. But if it's COVID-19 pneumonia, then it's $13,000, and if that COVID-19 pneumonia patient ends up on a ventilator, it goes up to $39,000."

translation.
the diagnostics section can add upt to $5k if everything is done. but can be cheaper if less is done
if it is then proceded to then do lung xrays and using a nasel canular. and having that oygen therapy for upto 2 weeks. then that can add upto $13k. but less time on oxygen means less cost
if they then need full ventilation. then again this can add more costs whereby each day on it accumilates more cost. where the max total of smeone having every procedure/test/diagnostic. and then needing all the treatments and ards protocol for a length of say 1 month.. could total $39k

....
as a separate note. just to put some facts infront you of
if 2 patients where sick. and one had covid and someone had say MERS but both had the same symptom severity and end of life result. where all diagnostics and all scans and all treatments were the same and for the exact same time length.

then and only then if a hospital is classed as a rural hospital(not easy access to diagnostics tools) they would only get a 20% extra on their charges if the patient had covid

..
in no cases in no hospitals do they automatically get $39k just for writing 'covid' on a report

doctors dont just write covid. their diagnosis have to be backed up by known symptoms/tests/scans/treatments. and its these tests/scans/treatments that have individual costings and also policies in place as to whats acceptable to perform or not
9532  Other / Politics & Society / Re: TODAY THEY WERE FORCED TO ADMIT THAT 'COVID-19' DOES NOT EXIST on: December 30, 2020, 10:54:19 PM
you have already been debunked
as explained before. the department she asked for evidence from is not even the department that does the type of things she is asking for

its like asking a gas station to provide proof someone has a driving licence.. its not their job

she most likely selected the department involved with hospitals and ignored the department involved with public health to ensure she didnt get an answer so that she can pretend there is no available info anywhere on the planet

its like badecker asking his male masseuse if he ever done a cancer treatment. and when the masseuse says no badecker then proclaims cancer cant be real because he asked a 'pro' about any cancer experience and found none.. not realising he was asking the wrong profession

irelands HSE is different to HSCNI
9533  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: New Nocoiner narrative, "Bitcoin is not scarce". on: December 30, 2020, 10:42:43 PM
It would seem that your understanding of logic, math and physics does not match up with reality.  But if this is the way that a typical financial type understands the basics, then this explains a lot for me.

See, back in around 2011 when I discovered bitcoin, I had wondered why the financial types had such a hard time with it.  The programmers loved the idea of bitcoin, they understood it, but for some reason the financial people would write many articles deriding it.  And your explanation is helpful in sort of finally explaining why they hated bitcoin so much.

It would seem that since bitcoin is not "divisible", "expandable", "inflatable", or otherwise what we are really talking about is: "exploitable", like financial derivatives, then the financial types would have no way to fool their investors with their flawed explanations of price, value, hand-waving machinations, etc.

well for logic. you just have to look for code
this is where the unit of measure is actualy in satoshi first. and then the 'coin' is created by using math to have then a basket term.

maybe if in the 9 years you were in bitcoin you looked at the code logic. as i have done
static const CAmount COIN = 100000000;
static const CAmount MAX_MONEY = 21000000 * COIN;

its not just have coin and then have max limit of 21m... and then later decide to divide it down.

it starts with 100000000 and then gives that measure a basket term of 'coin' and then say there can only be 21m COIN

what you will realise in code logic is that everything is measured in satoshi units. not decimals of btc.
the basket term of 'btc' is just as unimportant to code as a 'ubit' is
the math and logic of bitcoin code uses the units of measure of satoshi's

it is human/user interface that then do the illogic of talking about it in basket terms

but if you think its ok to change the simple math of:
static const CAmount COIN = 100000000;
static const CAmount MAX_MONEY = 21000000 * COIN;
to
static const CAmount COIN = 1000000000000;
static const CAmount MAX_MONEY = 21000000 * COIN;

then nothing is different when it comes to counting the units of measure if you done
static const CAmount COIN = 100000000;
static const CAmount MAX_MONEY = 210000000000 * COIN;

as its the same thing at code logic level

the amount of sharable units at code logic would be the same both ways if editing math of coin or maxmoney.. but offering people 1000x more both ways compared to original code

i know you lot are stuck in the human scope of basket terms.. like 'btc' or 'gold bars'
thinking there can only be ~15mill gold bars (190,000tonne) of gold(at 12.4kg bar baskets)
so your blindly thinking only 15million people can own gold. and thus making gold scarce

but reality is gold is not scarce. its in your device your using to view this forum. you have gold. and your not one of the limited 15m you previously thought could only have gold

here is the thing. gld junkies worked this out centuries ago. which is why they gave up the concept of measuring gold in the foolish basket term of bars.
the actual amount of gold is measured in math of the underlying sub unit (grams>kg>tonne)

when you learn a gold bar held in national reserves is only 12.4kg purely from human decision of random math of choosing 12.4 instead of say 15kg. and not to do with scarcity or availability of the number of grams in the world. you soon start to want to count gold in ounces/grams because having a gold bar of 12.4kg means nothing when they can change it to being 0.124kg, 15kg if they chose to
cores future plan is to change the basket term of 'btc' to have more sharable units

emphasis on SHARABLE as thats the point of scarcity
9534  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: New Nocoiner narrative, "Bitcoin is not scarce". on: December 30, 2020, 08:41:10 PM
the 21mill limit becomes meaningless if more then 21m people can have some
subdivisions is another form of inflation.
It appears that you have that backwards.  21 million units is a hard limit, therefore, there is no inflation if you can't add more units.

If more than 21 million people try to buy bitcoins, not all will have one bitcoin.  So the limit becomes more important, not less important, if more people than 21 million try to have it.


in investments share dilutions is a form of inflating companies holdings
Again, you have what bitcoin is doing backwards.  In share dilutions, more shares are created. For example, if 100 shares exist today, but tomorrow they add 50 more shares, then the total number of shares are diluted to 150.

No one is adding more bitcoins than the current final count of 21 million.

in share dilutions more SHARES are created without expanding the company physically.
having more shares(units) is meaning there are more shares(units) to share with people
i know you and windfury are stuck with the silly 'bucket' measure of a btc. but the sharable units the amount of units able to be shared would increase if the divisions went from 8 to 12.

if a company only had 4 shares. then those 4 people have power and there would be real demand to try changing out those 4 people. however if there are 4000 shares. then its not so scarce. not so much demand. and those holding have less importance.

something is not scarce if everyone can have it.

in practical maths/economics there is no physical/logical difference between having 2,100,000,000,000,000 sharable units with a basket term set at every 100000000000 units or having 21billion basket terms with only 100000000 units. the only difference becomes in conceptual language of buzzwords

scarcity is about how sharable something is

bread in your kitchen pantry is not scarce because its only one loaf and you have a family of 4. bread is widely available to the family because its sliced bread

i understand a certain few people are deeply stuck in the greyscale fangirl club and want bitcoin to subdivide more. but atleast be honest about it.
the game windfury is playing (whether he realises it or not) is not that bitcoin at its continual 8 decimal division is less scarce than a few years ago. but instead to try convincing people that it will still be scarce with 1000x more ability to be shared between people in the future

im kind of doubting windfury has had any investment experience or economic experience.
9535  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How long will it take Joe Biden to fulfill a campaign promise to cure cancer on: December 30, 2020, 05:53:34 PM
Last I checked Joe isn't a certified oncologist and doesn't have any background in the field of medicine. Why is he making promises about things he clearly has no idea about.

Because he is a politician.

Yes. This is a good illustration of how politics works. Promise anything you like, in order to get elected. Then once you are elected, well, job done, there is no need to then deliver on those promises.
Having said this, curing cancer is obviously a great goal, and if he can actually put some effort into this, even by just diverting some wasteful spending (say some of the defence budget) towards this, then that's certainly a Good Thing.

i think elected leaders should make pledges and receive penalties for not fulfilling them. like deception charges and jailtime.
heck even impeachment is a weak penalty.
its like a naughty schoolboy that hates school being "penalised" by being excluded from school.

i think that leaders need to be made more accountable for their actions. and not just being asked to resign
9536  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: December 30, 2020, 05:48:00 PM
In Switzerland is the death rate from the vaccine higher than the death rate fom COVID-19

Tash. are you living in a dream. because your posts are not about the real world people live in
stop making things up. its not even entertaining. YOU are the joke, not your post content
9537  Other / Politics & Society / Re: All Canadians to be vaccined. Trudeau orders 40 million vaccines for 38 million on: December 30, 2020, 05:02:40 PM
Oh the joys of universal health care...  No thanks.  

oh the joys of corporate health care.. asking for your payment plan before asking whats wrong. no thanks

can i just ask what 'benefits' do you think you get for having a corporate healthcare system. im actually interested in your opinion

but before you answer. consider that health insurance limits which hospital or available treatments a insurance will cover. so dont mention the 'freedom of choice'
the amount of tax that goes to healthcare vs the amount of insurance premium means that insurance is more expensive so dont mention the costs
the fact that it requires consulting an insurance plan to agree to treatment rather than looking at the patient and just treating them. means dont mention the belief of freedom of treatment.
oh and if you have to think about the cos of calling for an ambulance or worry about it costing you later. rather than just calling for one. whereby people in poorer suburbs dont even see ambulances.. dont mention how it 'cares' for all no matter what'

so tell me whats left that you find as the benefit of corporate healthcare
9538  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How long will it take Joe Biden to fulfill a campaign promise to cure cancer on: December 30, 2020, 10:32:57 AM
again for emphasis
cancer at the stage 4 or chronic stage has many issues in regards to 'finding cures'. this is because the amount of spread of cancer in the body wont respond to one treatment. as its infested many organ types requiring different treatments and has grown to such a mass that the volume of medication needed to fight the cancer will cause more harm than benefit.

but the true cure to cancer is not in new stage 4/chronic treatments. but instead catching the cancer early to treat it easily. thus never getting to stage 4/chronic category. thus no death.

its like vaccines. dont waste time trying to find new treatments for when people with viruses are on ventilators. instead find way to prevent people even getting hospitalised in the first place. thus avoiding the end-stage protocols

..
ways to achieve this
more scanners/blood sampling resources
more organ/bonemarrow/blood donations (maybe pay people to donate/compensate families)
more life support facilities to not only give better care for current stage 4. but also to use as organ doner resources for the recently deceased to have their bodies preserve longer to allow for more donations

but the main point is more regular checks/scans/tests. because what could simply be a pill form medication at stage 1, which is more acceptable than intravenous medication stage 2-3 or intubation stage 4
finding cancer at stage one is so much more simple to handle and prevent from getting to stages 2-3-4

but this is not really a biden thought up pledge. many countries have this plan.
trump had 4 years already to activate it.. but didnt
so lets see if biden does

UK for instance already started:
https://www.england.nhs.uk/2020/11/nhs-to-pilot-potentially-revolutionary-blood-test/

diagnostics so far are for when people suffer from symptoms
with current 1000 diagnoses per day and a 450 cancer deaths thats 45% death rate
if they can diagnose people stage 1 with a 10x survival rate. (45 death/1000) then thats an achievement by itself even without any R&D in new medications
45% down to 4.5% death rate can be achieved by just early diagnoses
9539  Other / Politics & Society / Re: All Canadians to be vaccined. Trudeau orders 40 million vaccines for 38 million on: December 30, 2020, 10:17:55 AM
here is the real funny thing

tvbcof thinks there is no virus. so why is he suddenly worried about immunity from something he thinks doesnt exist.

the joke on him is that what he writes is not actually his independent mind thoughts. he is just rehashing stupid opinion stuff from conspiracy sites without taking the time to think about what he is typing.

he has totally debunked his earlier rhetoric by even suggesting that people can get a virus and can spread it even with a vaccine. because now he admits there is a virus.

you gotta love it when they debunk themselves.

come on tvbcof. how can you say the vaccine decreases the symptoms. while also thinking no one has ever had symptoms in the first place
9540  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Government allows theft from farmers. on: December 30, 2020, 10:11:23 AM
ok lets do some more maths.

assuming your $3mill usual income. and your tax of 17.2% =$516k
that tax then gets spent on other things. like wars, polititians bedsheets and golf vacations.
so if you want to cry about your hard work. cry about how its wasted on such things that dont help you personally.

separately government have created trillions out of thin air. and nothing to do with you. and then handed that money out to people.
and as i said while the poor(you wrongly call lazy) only get $600 which is not even enough foodbill for a year
you are personally getting $264k free gift.

which goes to show by you getting $264k free gift instead of just $600. your 'hard work' is being rewarded

its much the same scale as giving a poor person $1.36cents and giving you $600
so would you prefer that. you only getting $600.

oh and by the way. those lazy poor people you dislike. now have an extra $600 to be able to buy your peaches. so now you can sell more peaches and make more then $264k from your hard work
without them poor lazy people getting an extra $600 they wouldnt buy peaches as thats a luxury.

so be happy to get a free gift of $264k and also the whole community stimulus that will also keep you in business because even the poor can now afford luxuries like peaches
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