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1041  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: About Waves platform on: December 19, 2017, 07:05:42 AM
This week sees three major Waves events in South Korea, and the first one is a private event with Coinone today. Also there will be two events tomorrow, on December, 19th. Read more on their blog: https://t.co/ob4JDDOBw8 should this event on south Korea and the updating about the wallet Waves will makes price of waves goes up because there are something be fixed by developers team of waves and the event become the waves will be more famous should many people from south Korea invest their money in Waves, but who is know, let's wait and see.
Hopefully, this will have a lot of effect on the value of waves.
I have noticed some pretty little rise lately after some long term of sleep, and I am really vouching for this coin to be a good one to hold for the long term. If everything works out well as said, this is a platform a lot of investors are really hoping will give Ethereum a huge push in the market and I really hope it happens as expected.
1042  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin Can Be A Savior! on: December 18, 2017, 01:08:28 PM
In my opinion it is absolutely true that bitcoin is a savior, but for me it's not against trading or gambling or even against another sins because these things  even if they are shaming, it's a matter with our god, and it has no relation with bitcoin or with another virtual currency. But still against my dignity and my independence. Also, against myself at the level of my mutual respect, my personal satisfaction and my inner peace.
At first, I got so confused that I did not understand a single thing you are saying and then when I read deeply I must say you are just some huge dogmatic religionist. What has religion gotten to do with any of this ?

Yes, everyone have what they believe in and their faith, but this is bitcoin and believing in bitcoin or seeing bitcoin as a savior does not remove whatever you think or go against it either. When you call something a savior the last time I checked, it is saving you from something.
1043  Economy / Economics / Re: What will happen if the government know bitcoin in your country? on: December 18, 2017, 08:25:14 AM
i think the government knows about the bitcoin and the transaction made through the internet. if government knows there will be no problem in it because it is internet based currency and if the government allow this currency as regular payment of the money then they will impose certain taxes upon this currency which affect the movements of bitcoin price.
Most governments already know and while some are just trying to pay a deaf attention to it, some are really taking it serious and in the long run, we will end up seeing which of the country ends up coming out better.

I do not expect any citizen who is a bitcoin or crypto enthusiast to get limited by the controls of the government, they can ban bitcoin in the country, but they can never ban the whole community globally. Still doing well in my country though and I hope it continues like that.
1044  Economy / Economics / Re: lest we forget, Bitcoin is a blessing. on: December 18, 2017, 07:53:39 AM
Bitcoin has pass through many stage, limitations, attack and forks issue but its price keep on increasing from inception till now. At this time Last year bitcoin price was $450 but today it is $1245 that was over 180% increment in just a year. This is what we call blessing, that is making progress in the face of strong opposition!!
yes ....really bitcoin is a real blessing, before i just ignore what they are doing i tell to my self that they are just sitting and holding there gadgets they dont know how to work in their houses, like that i do not know that they are focusing on bitcoin,then when they teach me how to join now i know that bicoin is a big blessing to us.,
How should anyone ever even forget that ? This is a currency that has brought the technology to disrupt the former way of doing things which has really been pretty annoying for some time now. For someone who really understand the way things has been before and the way bitcoin is changing everything now, then they will understand that bitcoin is even more than a blessing.
1045  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: your mentality after a huge loss? on: December 17, 2017, 01:04:47 PM
Sometimes I can't control my emotion after a major loss, I have mix emotions for myself and sometimes I feel so stupid. Also it always took a while for it to sink in my mind like I can't believe that it really happened. But of course I'm trying to control and manage all of it so what I'm doing is to have a break from it, try to unwind and picking up my thoughts. Sometimes trading make us go crazy tho. Grin
Emotions should not be a part of you as a good trader, you just have to understand that these things sometimes are inevitable and the reason why stop loss was invented was because every trader knows that losses are just meant to happen at some point in every trade. It is only when you are trading without strategies that let emotions kick in by not knowing what to do after such loss.

You should always learn from the mistakes that you've made as you move on with your life. Those mistakes is what makes you a better person, a better trader in this case. Because if you just keep on making mistakes without learning from it. You'll definitely won't reach anything. You'll become a failure.
Like they always say, twice beaten once shy. It will only be a form of stupidity to make the same mistake twice. Mistakes are bound to happen, but like you said, they are meant to groom us well for a better trade next time. All the pros have once had some huge setbacks too in their trades, but not giving up and learning from such mistakes is what has made them better.
1046  Economy / Speculation / Re: Predict the bitcoin price before 2018 starts on: December 16, 2017, 03:22:11 PM
i just want it to hit $25k  Roll Eyes
Do not worry, time will tell. We just have about few days to go. Few days back, we all wanted bitcoin to hit $15k by the end of the year, but we have been surprised and bitcoin still seems to keep going even higher. Anything is possible as we can keep seeing a bull run even entering next year, but I am sure things will settle than and after that, we may see a correction, which I am not sure may be that huge.

The next few days will really tell us that and there is really no need to be too much in a hurry right now. We have seen a huge increase more than ever within just a single day lately and we are still seeing that as it is. Bitcoin keeps breaking every major resistance on a bull run day in day out and if that keeps on the way it is, we may actually see $25k before the year ends and that would be crazy.
1047  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will surpass $500,000 by the end of 2018 on: December 16, 2017, 01:58:14 PM
I really hope we don't go parabolic for too long / too much.
Steady and healthy linear price growth is the best for long term stability and adoption.

Bitcoin isn't a stock or any other traditional asset class.
This is a completely new beast the world has never ever seen before.
Bitcoin is a technology, a protocol, store of value, medium of exchange and in far future maybe also a currency ones the price starts to stabilize.
What you may call a bubble due to parabolic rise, could be the beginning of real exponentail growth in terms of technology s-curve adoption!
Were the smartphone sales back in the early days a bubble? No this was exponential growth!
What email adoption in the 90s? Bubble? No!
Jesus guys do some research and learn what Bitcoin really is and try to understand what it's seven networks effects are, how they work and have an influence on BTC's value!
You just hit the nail straight on the head bro! It is really amazes me when everyone just keeps talking about a bubble, healthy rise, fast increase in price and all that. What is not healthy enough here. The long correction we recently had or the fake top that recently happened or the fact that bitcoin has broken the resistance and is on another bull run now.

I think what most people are not getting is that this is the future and those who are smart are beginning to see that while those who are dumb are still waiting for a crash and a steady growth.
1048  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Will Ether price hit 700$ by the end of 2017. on: December 16, 2017, 01:15:58 PM
$700 has been achieved easily! We are now watching to see how far ethereum will climb! Is it going to reach mount kilimanjaro and shoot for the moon or will it plateau at a point or will it dump!
Really watching. This is something that most of us have been eagerly waiting for and now that we have it, I guess our target must have changed right now. It is above, but we cannot really say for now if it is going to get past and keep going higher.

I still foresee a huge correction for most of these coins though, so I will just wait until then to get in again as this shows next year is going to be a boom year.
1049  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why people try to create their own coins? on: December 16, 2017, 08:36:39 AM
It is not wasting time at all. The reason why people are creating their own coins is simply because they wanted to generate profit out of it. Just like any business models, if what is in demand, it is the interest of business proprietors.
Yes, but it is only unfortunate that most of them do not always have good intentions and which is why I do not even bother investing in any coin as long as they do not have a product and if eventually after their ICO, they eventually end up having a product, then I can decide to get in because that is the main essence.

Without the product, most of them will end up shitty anyway because it is going to be a tough market and what use would it be trying to do something that another coin at the top is already doing better with a lot of recognition.
1050  Economy / Economics / Re: Still Buying Bitcoin at $10K? on: December 16, 2017, 07:15:20 AM
to buy bitcoin for $ 10K i think it's a bit late as currently bitcoin prices continue to increase as well as a significant rise and i believe if bitcoin prices have the potential to reach $ 20K in the next few weeks towards the end of this year.
There is a lot of room for the price to keep growing on and on and on. No matter what people are saying now, looking at the charts, things are changing and it seems the adoption is following an unbelievable trend right now that seems to keep being bullish for the long run with some few corrections here and there. I am kind of imagining what bitcoin will end up as before the year even runs out.

~$18k right now is a huge solid support and from the look of things, it seems the bitcoin bullish trend is not done yet and we may just keep seeing this now for a little while. However, anyone who wants to get in now should better just do as the corrections are so sharp that if you are not fast enough, you will definitely miss it unless you want to set your order anyway.
1051  Economy / Economics / Re: The legalization of bitcoin. on: December 16, 2017, 03:21:06 AM
I don't think this is a grate idea because it contradicts bitcoin's ideology and concept on which it was based on . Bitcoin shouldn't be linked to any state , government , land or party . It should only be defined by people and  for people to be completely free from any controlling organisms . In addition setting a plan like this means you'll need equipment and regimen for that , even an army to protect it ! And you can't just acquire all of that with bitcoin only  .
Nothing contradicts the ideology of bitcoin even if it ends up being legalized eventually. This does not change it from being a digital currency nor does it change it from being a decentralized one for that matter. Every country has their laws with monetary policies and as long as you are still going to be making use of fiat, come on !

Unless you want to be robbing your government, this is classified as capital gains. One day though, when bitcoin becomes more useful to be used as a currency, then we should expect taxing to really be a problem for the government so we better wait for that but I am sure they will always find a way.
1052  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is your advice: When should I cash out? on: December 15, 2017, 03:36:05 PM
Trust your guts, when you feel its time close the deal and wait another good entry if you plan to trade again,
By the way nice job on diversifying your portfolio, good job not all traders like the idea of diversifying investment
That is just the truth. No one can make any decisions for anyone. We all just have to trust our guts to some extent and deal with whatever comes after it.

Most times, the chart would basically tell us what to do at a certain point in time, so no one can really say what the future will hold regarding to that. So, once we make the decisions based on that, and even if things should end up going the other way round, then we will know how to make amends quickly.
1053  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you think its the right time to sell Bitcoin ? on: December 15, 2017, 02:32:59 PM
Do you think it will be the best time to sell as there are two kind of speculations one says the value of bitcoin will reach $20,000 by 2018 and there are also speculations that the bitcoin might go through a dump in upcoming days but i know we cannot believe into random predictions by random users due to the volatility of bitcoin but i need some suggestions whether to hold on to bitcoin or sell it out and invest some of it into altcoins and then wait for the price drop to reinvest into bitcoin which i am not sure will happen or not.
Keep believe on bitcoin price and believe that the price of it will continuously increase. Some people are spreading bad news because they only want to dump the price of bitcoin by spreading rumors so that they will be able to buy more bitcoin at the lower price and when they will buy then they will support bitcoin and they know that after the end of this year the price of bitcoin will reach to $50000 or more.
It is panic like the one OP is displaying right now that makes the strong hands to play with the weaker hands emotion. It is an investment and the reason they call it holding is because you understand the risk and you are ready to still stick with it as long as you understand the value it is going to give in the long run.

We have not seen mass adoption yet. OP should wait for it and see whether listening to speculations really sound better or just holding.
1054  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Pump and Dump. How to make a profit? on: December 15, 2017, 01:33:37 PM
you can know any coin will be pumped and dumped by keep looking at the market everytime, lsee the price change and volume in market.
when the price pump, you can get some profit by make buy order fastly and sell it fastly when get 10% profit, if the coin keep pump the price, you can repeatedly do that.
when the price dump, it's really hard to make profit, the tendency of some coins that being dumped is always keep dump, so wait till the dump ends and start to buy it and sell then when its price get higher.
Those are not pump and dumps or related to what the OP is asking. They are good ways to earn though than looking for pump and dump markets which are quite risky. I have never been a fan of pumps and dumps. I have gotten trapped in some of them, I have ended up losing a lot in some of them and I just always try to stay away since most of them are shit coins anyway.
1055  Economy / Speculation / Re: Total crypto market is now worth HALF A TRILLION dollars on: December 15, 2017, 10:48:45 AM
The number is ofcourse great but I've always been sceptical about market cap. Today btc is 16k bot a moment later someone bought one coin for 15.9k and BTC market cap lost thousands of dollars. You should also exclude all scamcoins from the total market cap. The only bitconnect should probably have a pretty big part in this number and there are also a lot of even more scammy coins.
You have a point but considering the amount of currencies in the scam coins, they may not really be something to worry about. One thing is that even with the market cap of these scam coin, this is a market that can be abandoned for any crypto at any time and that way the money is just flowing within the crypto ecosystem anyway.

We cannot say even say where the crypto total cap is going to be headed but we sure know this is getting big already. No one could have imagined the end of this year would be like this and this is like the craziest year we have ever had with the growth of bitcoin.

It is still a little bit scary though which is normal cause that huge growth in a very short while usually does not end well in another short period before the market recovers, but I would not want to be too pessimistic here.
1056  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will reach 20k price point before Christmas on: December 15, 2017, 07:25:40 AM
This is just a mere prediction. it is not 100% certain. this days following graph partern doesnt give indication of rise or fall in price of bitcoin. market volatility has made bitcoin very unpredictable just few days ago the coin started going down with alot of news that it will go down to $13k but now its back at $16k plus. to me i feel the price of bitcoin doesnt determine by demand and supply but been influence by group of bitcoin dev. the same dev responsible for hard fork
No one can ever be certain. Although looking at things and the tug of war that has been going on with the bulls and the bears lately, I would say anything can happen any moment from now. It is possible we can start seeing another bull run or a bearish market as the case may be. However, like you said, no one can predict what the future holds, but there is every possibility that we can.

A lot of attention is being gained by bitcoin now and things are starting to get interesting. So far, we have been hitting some level of targets that even some of us never expected could happen earlier. With that, I have just learnt to believe that anything can be possible and with bitcoin reaching $20k, it is very possible and I will not discard those possibilities.
1057  Economy / Speculation / Re: When BTC will go down on: December 14, 2017, 07:17:29 PM
No one can tell when is the bitcoin will go down because everyday it goes up though sometime it drops a little but recovers again. Many are still acquiring bitcoin that's why its price is continuously increasing. Maybe it will to $20000 at the end of the year and everybody will be happy.
No one really can. This is a world we cannot 100% predict as it can decide to do what it like and sometimes the big players can decide to do what they like with the market. This is really a time we need to even be stronger and stop spreading some unnecessary FUDs.

If the market wants to go down, no shit, we will buy more in that case, but looking at the fact that the wall street guys may want to shake the market a little, we should not be more in a hurry to sell, but see it as an opportunity.
1058  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why Some Speculating Bitcoin To Crash? on: December 14, 2017, 04:38:04 PM
They just don't believe how fast the price has changed ever since the start of the year 2017 when it is merely just $1000 per bitcoin. That is why they are being too skeptical about bitcoin. The volatility of bitcoin is what concerns them because they don't want to see a whipsaw movements in their portfolios. They always say that we should invest only the amount that we feel are okay with losing, so even if we risk it, it will still have not much impact on us.
No one would have believed but the truth is that whether we like it or not the huge correction is imminent.

It is not even about the volatility alone here as everyone understands how volatile the market already is at this moment. We have gotten to the stage where most investors are not using their head any longer but their emotions centered on greed to invest in bitcoin and if care is not taken, you already know the rest.
1059  Economy / Speculation / Re: what will happen with the BTC, if the dollar falls on: December 14, 2017, 03:03:51 PM
I dont think dollar will fail. But if it does, more people would switch to cryptocurrencies. So I think, bitcoin price would raise.
Forget the whole manipulations and control going on bro, USD can fall and it is going to reach that crazy stage one day. The Feds may still be doing a pretty good job now, but I really wonder how long it is going to last.

Anyway, once we start seeing fiats and not just dollar, crashing and people are getting to find a better way to store their money not just in BTC but cryptocurrency, and then we should see a huge fall in for bitcoin and likes which would lead to massive increase in value. Main essence of it anyway.
1060  Other / Off-topic / Re: Who else wants Bitcoin as their Christmas present? on: December 14, 2017, 12:07:43 PM
Haha yes that would be nice and it would save Santa having to fly all around the world, he can just send it all in transactions.  I think 1 bitcoin is beyond anyone's limits for a Christmas present if you're lucky 0.1 would be a bit more reasonable, I know if my kids ever asked for a bitcoin for Christmas I might suggest a litecoin instead lol.
For real! That would even make the job easier for Santa. He can just get all the addresses of everyone and start doing several transfers into the addresses.

Suggesting Litecoin will not be bad, but your kids will be so angry when they check their litecoin wallet later on to see that it has dropped in value. Grin ... The good thing is that Litecoin has really had some push, but I am still scared for that coin right now.
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