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1161  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Server PSU breakout board and autostart on: February 16, 2018, 12:05:37 AM
If you reboot the system, the PSU won't power down, correct?

Nope, but that isn't an issue. You can leave the GPUs supplied by power all the time via their 6/8 pin connectors without issue, and no, they don't draw very much power in that state (maybe 1W each?).

1162  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: AMD RX 560 515 h/s for Cryptonight (Monero, Electroneum..) @ 40 watt on the wall on: February 16, 2018, 12:02:35 AM
RX560 not good to use cryptonight, because RX550 more cheaper and easyly get 450h/s.
User 560 for eth forks mining

RX 550 isn't cheaper in the US. Check out this sorted/filtered list on newegg: https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%20601296396%20601296397%208000&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&order=PRICE&page=1

If you can get an RX 560 for the same price, or even less, than an RX 550 why wouldn't you? Unless, of course, you could get an RX 570 for MSRP... but that hasn't been possible for a couple of months now.

1163  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: NEMOSMINER multi algo profit switching NVIDIA miner on: February 15, 2018, 11:50:48 PM
Well, I'm still waiting for an explanation of what, precisely, this collection of half-assed scripts does, so it's no surprise the first post wasn't updated with a changelog.

Don't you think this is more demeaning and more of a dick move than my snarky statement?

Maybe, but considering that an errant powershell script can literally destroy a Windows installation, not really.

Look at the substance of what I wrote: there is not even a basic description of what NemosMiner does in the first post. It is *assumed* by the OP that everyone knows what a multi-pool miner does. Well, maybe that is true at the so-called "30,000 foot level", but I still want to know the details like, where is the data from API polling stored, where/how is that data manipulated, how are errors handled like, say, a benchmark failing (one of my test rigs was basically idled for 8+ hours because "timetravel" failed... that's dumb no matter how you slice it), how are miners configured, hell, what does every switch in the pool batch files do!?, etc... None of that is explained either in the first post or on the "github" - more on that below.

And btw, pointing someone to post #3421 and asking rhetorically, "not sure where you've been looking" is kind of a dick move. While we can all fantasize about every one reading 3000+ post threads before asking a question, that's just flatly unrealistic, so let's not pretend otherwise, mmm?
I don't expect anyone or everyone to read all 3000+ posts, but if there's recent buzz about a new patch, you'd think the changelog is nearby. In addition, almost any competent dev has the changelog on their Github, it's standard practice.

It's not that I am unsympathetic to your position - indeed, I always read the first 2-3 and last 2-3 pages of a thread before asking a (potentially stupid) question - but after *decades* of using forums (starting with BBSes, USENET, etc...) I have a fairly keen sense of how things ought to proceed in matters like this, and the first post is by far the best place to put updates. Github is a relatively new creation, and besides, few ever bother to write a decent readme.md file for their git repository, anyway. See, for example, the SGMiner-GM github with a readme.md that is 4+ years old. Seriously?

1164  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: NEMOSMINER multi algo profit switching NVIDIA miner on: February 15, 2018, 10:38:41 PM
Nemo, can you please type up a quick changelog on the first page when you release an update? It's impossible to track or know the differences otherwise. What have you changed/improved between v2.4.1 and v2.4.2?

? Not sure where you've been looking.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1777336.msg30312532#msg30312532

https://github.com/nemosminer/NemosMiner-v2.4.2/releases

Well, I'm still waiting for an explanation of what, precisely, this collection of half-assed scripts does, so it's no surprise the first post wasn't updated with a changelog.

And btw, pointing someone to post #3421 and asking rhetorically, "not sure where you've been looking" is kind of a dick move. While we can all fantasize about every one reading 3000+ post threads before asking a question, that's just flatly unrealistic, so let's not pretend otherwise, mmm?

1165  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: NEMOSMINER multi algo profit switching NVIDIA miner on: February 15, 2018, 09:08:03 PM
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In fact, every single comparison I've done between NiceHash and a multi-algo, auto-switching pool - always using NemosMiner - has ended with NiceHash winning. As a result, I've concluded that it's just not worth trying to beat NiceHash at its own game. YMMV, etc. and so on.

I have been away from NH for quite a while now (last year when I compared ZPOOL was ahead of NH for me) -- but I fired it up on two workers to size it up again.

Early impression is that the profit seems quite high right now on NiceHash -- probably due to the "bull market" run we are having (e.g. people willing to pay above market for the power).

Believe me, after all the trash talking I've done about NiceHash (aka NiceHack), no one was more surprised as each and every multi-algo pool I've tested over the last month has come in 2nd place, and often by a startling amount. HashRefinery and Zergpool both brought in 30% less over their 1 week test period than NH. Granted, both pools happened to get on the wrong side of some hard-forks, but since that isn't something you have to worry about with NH I can't really toss out the comparisons as invalid. Both MiningPoolHub and Zpool came in around 10% less than NH over their test periods (1 week for MPH, only 3 days for Zpool) and given the limitations of my test setup I am inclined to call these a tie, but that's rather missing the point: the whole idea behind multi-algo, auto-switching pools is to beat single-coin mining AND NiceHash over time (if you are the type that either cashes out in fiat on a regular basis or just wants to accumulate BTC without buying a shitty ASIC).

And especially since NH is rather restricted in the algos it offers I am even more surprised at the poor showing of these multi-algo pools, but maybe it's not the pool's fault, maybe it's NemosMiner's, so I am contemplating trying another multi-algo miner manager next.



1166  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Server PSU breakout board and autostart on: February 15, 2018, 08:15:03 PM
It's just that in case of a power cut, it won't automatically restart: I have to be there and push on the button.

So I'd like my ATX PSU to turn it on when power is back.

They do make breakout boards that are hardwired to turn on when AC is applied, and usually that version is cheaper. If you already have this board and it requires pressing a button to restart it then you'll need to get creative if you don't know how to solder.

1167  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: NEMOSMINER multi algo profit switching NVIDIA miner on: February 15, 2018, 07:37:06 PM
You can't shoot yourself in the foot for picking the top 6 algos and mining those exclusively.  Make sure to use the new ahashpoolplus, its a better way to mine

If I knew what the top 6 algos were at any given moment I wouldn't need NemosMiner?!? I could just make the usual rolling list of ccminer, etc., command line entries in a batch file and loop through them every 60s (or whatever)!

I may well give ahashpool a shot (using the plus version of the batch file) but as of now I don't really have enough hashpower to make me comfortable trying out a pool with a 0.01 BTC minimum payout. I did take note of your test results, but I'd like to see how ahashpool compares with NiceHash, because so far every single one of these multi-algo pools has lost out to the 800lb gorilla.

1168  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Need help! Onda D1800 BTC. Can’t get BIOS to display! on: February 15, 2018, 07:25:12 PM
I wish I could help you guys having trouble, but aside from not getting the correct memory the first time (Amazon's fault, not mine), and wasting time trying to use one of the GPUs to drive a monitor because the Aliexpress listing specifically said onboard video was disabled (it wasn't, and had to be used, actually) I haven't really fiddled with mine and only once checked the BIOS settings but didn't change any.

I can tell you that a code 99 during boot usually means some critical piece of the mobo hardware isn't working. Perhaps the PCIe bus expander or the like. This would likely be a fatal error unless you can find something set wrong in the BIOS (but, to reiterate, mine was set perfectly for its intended task as a miner).

@Fuzzy Kittens - your issue could be from the new BIOS changing the default video adapter from onboard/integrated to external/PCIe.



1169  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Riserless Mining Motherboards the death of PCIE risers? Mining Rig Tear Down! on: February 15, 2018, 07:09:02 PM
love my onda b250 d8p v1. will never build a riser rig again.

some of those riserless boards have better slot spacing than others, the d8p v1 is very good with 2.5 spacing. i dunno how well a 2.0 spacing board will do cooling wise.

but the d8p with its 2.5 spacing will not fit in a server case whereas a board with 2.0 spacing would.

one thing i will always want in a riserless board is a socket for the cpu rather than a built in. just personal preference.

Yep, I have been adding cards to my 2nd Onda D1800 6-GPU mobo as I get them in and I really like these boards, BUT....

The 5cm PCIe slot spacing on my D1800's is just too close to allow the GPU fans to pull in enough air, and I am not running terribly powerful cards in either rig. One D1800 is kitted out with RX 560s and they aren't such a problem - only 75W max TDP and a bit thinner, too - but the other one is loaded up with GTX 1060s and it has been a real struggle to keep the first 5 cards cool (the last one is fine since its fan is unobstructed).

The Celeron CPU is also woefully underpowered - you pretty much have to stop mining if you need to interact with it at all. I'm not saying it needs an i5 or a Ryzen or anything, but even something about 2x faster would be a tremendous improvement. That said, the wimpy CPU is a main reason why the mobo only needs about 30W...

1170  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: RX 560 hashrates on: February 15, 2018, 06:57:18 PM
All of the 2GB XFX RX 560's I've received so far have Elpida memory so I've gotten lucky in the silicon lottery. A 4th is on the way and I hope I didn't just jinx myself  Tongue

Once I get all 6 slots on my Onda D1800 filled out I am going to revisit xmr-stak and claymore because SGMiner is just so finicky to get working right and it has been abandoned for about a year now. The supposed replacement - gateless gate sharp - is still very much in beta testing (lots of crashes being reported).


Are you also still getting crashes? I keep fiddling with the memory/gpu frequenzies trying to ind out wich card is causing the crash, since i can't tell wich card it is, when it crashes i get blackscreen.
I might also give xmrstak another shot.
I also bought 1 more gigabyte rx550 2gb, hope it has elpida memory.
Gonna sell my gigabyte rx460 4gb micron, since for the money i can get from it i can buy 1.5 rx 550.

But will that half of an RX 550 do at least half the hashrate of a full one?  Grin

Yeah, I had another crash after about 36 hours of operation. That's pretty good, but my 6x GTX 1060 Equihash rig will run for a week without a reboot; maybe longer, but Windows Update rarely lets me go more than a week without forcibly rebooting. This despite manually disabling its service... One of the things I absolutely despise about W10.

1171  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Make Your Own Custom Excel Coin Tracker using Coinmarket Cap APIs on: February 15, 2018, 06:49:11 PM
GenX dinosaur checking in; I did have a spendable merit so I gave it to you. Really excellent work.
1172  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: February 15, 2018, 06:17:24 PM
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who will merit a post that is just two lines of words but actually meaningful and solve a problem? what happens to such post that is short and precise and was helpful?  Huh

Actually, concise but helpful posts are even more likely to get merited because of the "tl;dr" types!  Grin
1173  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: RX 560 hashrates on: February 15, 2018, 06:08:23 PM
Mine still crashed, after about 20 hours, system stays running but not mining anymore and black screen, have to restart pc manually.
I think for my rx550 4gb and rx460 4gb with micron, even 1750 mhz seems to be to high for them, wtf? I put them at 1700 mhz now.
the hynix and elpida can run 1850 mhz easily.

All of the 2GB XFX RX 560's I've received so far have Elpida memory so I've gotten lucky in the silicon lottery. A 4th is on the way and I hope I didn't just jinx myself  Tongue

Once I get all 6 slots on my Onda D1800 filled out I am going to revisit xmr-stak and claymore because SGMiner is just so finicky to get working right and it has been abandoned for about a year now. The supposed replacement - gateless gate sharp - is still very much in beta testing (lots of crashes being reported).

1174  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: NEMOSMINER multi algo profit switching NVIDIA miner on: February 15, 2018, 05:38:22 PM
Get rid of Lyra2RE2, Skunk, HSR, Tribus they are terrible...

Use phi,skein,x17,Nist5,neoscrypt,blake2s

If you want 10-20% more profit use ahashpoolplus


Hmm, yes, you mentioned pruning the algo list before when timetravel got stuck during benchmarking, but after thinking about it some more I couldn't see the reasoning behind removing any algo from the list as long as the pool supports it, the algo hasn't been "ASIC'ed", the pool uses the Proportional payout scheme (so you don't get screwed if no blocks are found) and the pool auto-converts everything to BTC. Maybe skunk or tribus or timetravel suck right now, but maybe they won't in the future. And I know for sure that Lyra2RE2 has good days because I keep my eye on a couple of coins that use that algo.

I'm just about to install the newest version - 2.4.2 - so this would be as good a time as any to do some pruning, but I don't want to shoot myself in the foot here.

1175  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: NEMOSMINER multi algo profit switching NVIDIA miner on: February 15, 2018, 04:51:18 PM
In order reach the minimum balance on Zpool in a reasonable time I copied my existing NemosMiner installation on to my other GTX 1080 rig. Everything is running smoothly and since both rigs are more or less the same my existing benchmarks and algos should work fine. I changed the refresh interval to 300 seconds on both setups and started them within a few minutes of each other so API checks aren't exactly in sync, but they aren't, say, 10 minutes apart.

What's really strange is that they have not been mining the same algo, nor even showing the same ordering of profitability. And I am not just talking about 1 or 2 switched places, I mean the profitability estimates are way, way different. For example, on rig 1 the first 5 algos listed are Skein, Tribus, HSR, Skunk & Phi, while on rig 2 the order is Lyra2RE2, Skunk, Phi, HSR, Tribus.

It's almost like the profit switching script is randomly guessing?!?

1176  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Will miners survive? on: February 15, 2018, 04:25:36 PM

thanks bud. I'm new to the forum and I changed the section accordingly. I understand the mine and HOLD concept. What i ment to say was Ethereum needs the miners why not give them a bit more coins instead? When there are no miners there are no transactions. Miners have more power in this then we realize.

There is so much misunderstanding in those few few sentences I hesitated replying...

The rate at which you earn coins is proportional to the hashrate of your cards, but also inversely proportional to the hashrate of the entire network; that is what dictates "difficulty". So the more miners that decide to mine ETH the more difficult it becomes to mine ETH.

Furthermore, Ethash is not the 1070's strong suit: Lyra2v2, Equihash, Skein, Nist5 are several algos that perform much better on it; AMD cards do a lot better at Ethash (and Cryptonight).

So if you really want Ethereum I would suggest either selling your mining equipment and buying ETH directly or mining a coin your hardware excels at, such as ZEN, ZEC, VTC, XVG, etc., then trade it for ETH (NB - you may have to trade for BTC first).
1177  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][TZC] TrezarCoin Super-Secure-PoW/PoS on: February 15, 2018, 02:20:11 PM
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guess what, Im not going to be mining your coin now. you can thank cryptopia for this, how much did the dev pay them so they can offer no support and fuck your coin over.
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In all seriousness, you should stick to NiceHash. No shame in that game - I've usually got one rig on NiceHash at all times now, because it is at least predictable, if not the most profitable.

Low market cap / sub-rosa coins that aren't listed on major exchanges are the deep end of the speculative alt pool and like with any speculative investment just a tiny portion of your assets (ie - money or hashpower) should be allocated to them.

1178  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: NEMOSMINER multi algo profit switching NVIDIA miner on: February 15, 2018, 02:14:40 PM
NemosMiner-v2.4.2
ahashpoolplus

Added ahashpoolplus as a pool. Simply use -PoolName ahashpoolplus in start.bat Uses calculations based on 24hractual and currentestimate ahashpool prices to get more realistic estimate. Includes some trust index based on past 1hr currentestimate variation from 24hr. This shows less switching than following Current Estimate and more switching that following the 24hr Actual. AND is NOT sensible to spikes. Better profitability on our rigs. Test and share the results on yours. Only for ahashpool. Working on expanding the feature to other pools.

Any ETA on having this for ZPOOL ?

I've been using it on Zpool the last few days with no issue. In fact, I was doing a comparison between NemosMiner/Zpool vs. NiceHash (spoiler - NiceHash won; see this post here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1751272.msg30341376#msg30341376).

In fact, every single comparison I've done between NiceHash and a multi-algo, auto-switching pool - always using NemosMiner - has ended with NiceHash winning. As a result, I've concluded that it's just not worth trying to beat NiceHash at its own game. YMMV, etc. and so on.

1179  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: █▓▒░-< [ZPOOL.CA][FlexFee™][SegWit] The miners multipool >-░▒▓█ on: February 15, 2018, 01:01:18 PM
A quick update after the first 24 hours of running - NiceHash is currently ahead with 0.33331 mBTC earned vs. 0.29274 mBTC immature + earned at Zpool.
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Now at the 48 hour mark Zpool is just 2% behind NiceHash, with 0.64844 mBTC earned (mature + immature) vs. 0.66167 mBTC for NiceHash*. As I explain more in the above quoted post, any difference in earnings of 5% or less should be considered a tie due to the limitations of my test setup.
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At the 72 hour mark Zpool fell behind NiceHash again, with a net earnings of 0.90309 mBTC for Zpool vs. 1.01949 mBTC for NH. While that is an 11.% difference, I can't really say it is significant statistically because just yesterday Zpool was nearly tied with NH while the day before it was behind NH by 12.1%, so daily earnings fluctuate quite a bit.

What I can say for sure, though, is that the estimated profit data which NemosMiner is obtaining/using to select which algo to run is persistently overstated by anywhere from 1.5x to 3x the actual earnings so because of this, as well as a few other glaring deficiencies in these profit switching scripts, I think I will stick to using Zpool in single-algo mode.


1180  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: DERO: CryptoNote Privacy + Smart Contracts on: February 15, 2018, 12:35:18 PM
I just acquired a 3rd RX 560 and immediately put it to work mining DERO - that's a blistering 1350 H/s I've allocated to this coin!   Grin

Okay, enough of the hyperbole, but it is about 2x more hashrate than I've allocated to Intensecoin - another project I think has promise - and about 4x more than I've allocated to eDollar, which, frankly, is a proverbial moonshot because it has a low probability of success, but even 340 H/s brings in ~500 coins per day so why not throw a CPU at it, right?


I used to mine intense when it came out, but stopped after I realized that when hosting a VPN you have no idea what nefarious activities people could be using it for. It's just not worth the legal trouble in my opinion.

Meh, I'm not so worried about being an exit node for a VPN as long as there is full encryption of all internal communications, and, frankly, any VPN that allowed intermediaries in the network to observe what was going on inside it would no longer be /private/.

But I vote with my hashpower and DERO has the most promise of any Cryptonote coin I've come across; ITNS seems to be struggling a bit here.

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