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1161  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 07, 2019, 01:52:59 PM
Question im my mind is will we get the the 5-7k this summer before the shake out of get rich quick alt boyz and newbs is done or do we start the run to 20k from the 7-9 range.

'Run to $20K' is so 2017. I'm thinking run to $150K.
1162  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 06, 2019, 03:11:45 PM
having 4 or 5 obedient 17 year old males around would be pretty dammed handy.

Ha! Haha! HahahhhaaaahhahahahahHahahaHaaaa!

Hoo, boy. That's rich.



^ https://twitter.com/stephendpalley/status/1146519811716997125
yuh csw sent in some more faked documents

Understood maybe 15% of the content but the gist is that he gave falsified docs to the judge that already pretty much despised him.

Or so claims some other bloke who also already pretty much despises him.

I don't know the truth of it yet, but the popcorn consumption is truly legendary.



As long as people use and believe in the dollar they can keep printing (generating money). This requires politicians to do the acting game.

Acting game? I rather doubt it. I've seen no evidence that the average politician knows any more about how society's money really works than the average sot on the street.
1163  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 01, 2019, 02:37:09 PM

You are correct that this being a marketing blurb does not make it a fact.

What does make it a fact is the fact that it is -- indeed -- a fact.

Spit it out bear..what is this fact you squeak of?

Already stated upthread:

BSV is the Bitcoin that hews closest to the original Bitcoin protocol design.



Even supposing that it was true, which it is not, then who gives a shit about “original intentions”. 

You seem to be implying that the arbiter of what things are named is merely a popularity contest. I do not agree.



Your loosing it

I see what you did there.
1164  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 01, 2019, 07:10:04 AM
BSV is the Bitcoin that hews closest to the original Bitcoin protocol design.

 I see special people on Twitter quoting this all the time.

 Just because it's in some marketting blurb for a shitcoin does not make it a fact.

You are correct that this being a marketing blurb does not make it a fact.

What does make it a fact is the fact that it is -- indeed -- a fact.
1165  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 01, 2019, 05:58:31 AM

Why all the questions for me?

Because you are a shitcoin shill, that actively tries to deceive people into thinking that BSV is bitcoin, when you know very well it is not.

Well, that's where you are wrong. BSV is the Bitcoin that hews closest to the original Bitcoin protocol design. As such, it is the Bitcoin-iest of all the Bitcoins.
1166  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 30, 2019, 12:28:29 AM
having to clarify misrepresentations of The Other Bitcoins does indeed get tiresome. But I soldier on. Because truth is important.

There is only one bitcoin.  

Yeah, I know. I was just being charitable to those who think that Core is The Real Bitcoin.



Talking about LN: is that a subject here in WO? I only follow this thread once in a while (there's just too much to read), but considering the level of Bitcoin fans here, I'm curious if it's used

It appears to me that there are quite a number of Lightning fans here.






....very few of whom actually use it.

Disclaimer: as an LN skeptic, my perception may be skewed.



Why all the questions for me?

Because you're uniquely stupid cunt.

And you are just effluent with social graces.
1167  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 29, 2019, 06:00:00 PM
Relaying bytes:

Quote from: Shelby

Accordingly, capex will have a longer profitable time horizon, leading to the above equation being even more dominated by opex -- which is in turn energy cost.

Which in turn is capex, e.g. solar panels run during the daytime to lower average cost per KWH.

Oh gawd. Reductio al absurdium? Fine. I can play that game too.

Your solar panels are nothing but raw stuff existing within the crust of the earth, plus energy expended to extract, refine, alloy, and form it.

 Roll Eyes
1168  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 29, 2019, 05:35:16 PM
jbreher - You do still believe that wright is Satoshi, correct?

Where the hell did you ever get that idea? I have never said that I believe Wright is Satoshi. Indeed, I have publicly stated several times right here within this thread that I consider the prospect unlikely. Though possible.

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what about his moral character? do you believe he is ethical?

Well, I've never interacted with him directly. Accordingly, it is rather hard to gauge moral character. But I have seen nothing in his actions that would make me suspect that he would commit aggression against another.

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what about his supposed tech genius?

Again, I don't know what contributions he has made, as opposed to others in the organizations with whom he is associated. Though I have listened to a number of his statements, read a number of his posts, and studied a few of his patents. In the above, I have seen some unique insights that have turned out to be true, some points that the community has ridiculed that still seem they may be true, some things that I believe were outright errors, etc. So as with pretty much everybody, the story is somewhat of a mixed bag. But from the evidence at hand, yes. I find the term 'tech genius' is likely warranted.

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wouldn't be possible for him to make a mistake like this would it?

What mistake? Allegedly claiming that a certain address was his, when it may have been shown not to be? I dunno. Let's see what the trial brings out on the topic.

Why all the questions for me?
1169  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 29, 2019, 05:01:30 PM
Seriously jbreher, don't you ever get tired of this shit?

Seriously Cryptotourist, indeed I do.

But a direct request was made of me. One that I cannot fulfill. It would probably be rude to just drop the request without the benefit of my reply.

And yes, having to clarify misrepresentations of The Other Bitcoins does indeed get tiresome. But I soldier on. Because truth is important.



Don't mean to get technical on you all the sudden by I was looking into it the other day and as of right now its only possible to cram 100 KB of data into a single BSV transaction (or 4 JJG posts -- sorry JJG, you know I'm still a fan).

BSV has long had widely-distributed tools to split larger files into multiple txs, and concatenate them upon retrieval into original large files.

I heard somewhere (I only come here lol) they also have backup servers to roll back any crap.

Oh. You "heard". How unsurprising. Right here in the echo chamber.



That said, these tools surrounding the SV protocol



Sorry, couldn't help myself. Its just what comes to mind.

OK, that was marginally funny. Touche'.



Nobody would ever buy a coin for $500k when they can simply mine one for $3-6k instead. 

You are forgetting the reward halving, this alone can make the price double without any  extra power needed.

Also, miners can get more efficient in future and use wasted energy.,

No. While exaggerated, r0ach has a point. Additional increase in price will inevitably result in increased hashpower thrown at mining. The natural state (once supply and demand shocks stop oscillating) is that the money expended upon mining opex + capex + marginal profit will be equal to the value of the mining rewards (block reward plus tx fees). Bitcoin hashing chips are already darned near the state of the art, meaning that the generational benefits of new hardware is slowing. Accordingly, capex will have a longer profitable time horizon, leading to the above equation being even more dominated by opex -- which is in turn energy cost.

Efficiency has nothing to do with the amount of energy expended in mining. More efficient HW just means that more hashpower will be put into service, until the energy cost expended brings the above equation back into balance.
1170  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 29, 2019, 08:40:08 AM
Does anyone want to have a local copy of this thread? I could compress all pages into a downloadable file, so you can search the raw HTML for old posts.

How big would that be? Put it in the BSV blockchain, they have gigabyte blocks. The only other thing there are weather stuff.

Don't mean to get technical on you all the sudden by I was looking into it the other day and as of right now its only possible to cram 100 KB of data into a single BSV transaction (or 4 JJG posts -- sorry JJG, you know I'm still a fan).

BSV has long had widely-distributed tools to split larger files into multiple txs, and concatenate them upon retrieval into original large files.

I would prefer my posts to not be broken up, otherwise they might be read out of context.  PLEASE tell craig.

I'm not in regular contact with Craig, so will be unable to pass along your request.

That said, these tools surrounding the SV protocol are standalone items created by unrelated individuals. So Craig is not involved in these. What's more, nChain is not involved. See, SV is a wonderously rich ecosystem of scads of unrelated parties all building atop Bitcoin.

Further, perhpas you missed where I clearly stated "... concatenate them upon retrieval into original large files"
1171  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 28, 2019, 05:05:03 PM
Bitcoin is dead right?

It's merely stunned.

Pining for the fjords.
1172  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 28, 2019, 05:01:42 PM
Mike Novogratz: Bitcoin Will Stabilize Between $10,000 and $14,000

I disagree.

Please, elaborate.

Bitcoin does not _stabilize_ until it becomes world money. We've not even started up the steep slope of the S-Curve yet.

But even speaking to the short term, I don't imagine we'll spend more than a quarter below 14K.
1173  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 28, 2019, 04:55:51 PM
I would absolutely donate money to a fund that was created for the sole purpose of stuffing BSV with junk to these ends.
Someone needs to set this up.

Just start creating txs, duh. What the heck are you waiting for?
1174  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 28, 2019, 04:53:33 PM
The page you posted on is 204 kB. I guess it'll be around half a gigabyte compressed.

 Huh

1175  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 28, 2019, 04:42:46 PM
Does anyone want to have a local copy of this thread? I could compress all pages into a downloadable file, so you can search the raw HTML for old posts.

How big would that be? Put it in the BSV blockchain, they have gigabyte blocks. The only other thing there are weather stuff.

Don't mean to get technical on you all the sudden by I was looking into it the other day and as of right now its only possible to cram 100 KB of data into a single BSV transaction (or 4 JJG posts -- sorry JJG, you know I'm still a fan).

BSV has long had widely-distributed tools to split larger files into multiple txs, and concatenate them upon retrieval into original large files.
1176  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 28, 2019, 04:40:02 PM
Mike Novogratz: Bitcoin Will Stabilize Between $10,000 and $14,000

I disagree.
1177  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 28, 2019, 04:37:32 PM
Does anyone want to have a local copy of this thread? I could compress all pages into a downloadable file, so you can search the raw HTML for old posts.

How big would that be? Put it in the BSV blockchain, they have gigabyte blocks.

Stellar idea!
1178  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: June 27, 2019, 11:44:05 PM
Bsv to btc +.04%

Sticking to your theme. Integrity. Good on ya.
1179  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: June 27, 2019, 05:40:05 PM
The biggest misconception about the blockalypse is that it ever existed...

The tape tells the tale. In the last FOMO spike, we had soaring average tx wait times and soaring average tx fees...

Whether or not you wish to think of that as Blockalypse ain't no matter to me.

The term "apocalypse" usually describes the end of something. Bitcoin didn't die. It didn't stop or come close to stopping.

Nope, you're right about that. BTC didn't ... die. It merely experienced a drastic reduction in relevance, relative to other pretenders to the cryptocurrency throne.

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The first big block experiment has been a failure.

The term "failure" usually describes the end of something. Bitcoin (i.e., BCH) didn't die. It didn't stop or come close to stopping.

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At the exact same time, we had a catastrophic drop in bitcoin market dominance.

Its not my fault you don't understand how the alt market historically relates to the bitcoin market and I don't have time to explain it to you.

"Historically"!? WTF are you on about? Until the first Blockalypse, BTC essentially spent its entire existence above 85% market dominance.

Seems you are the one with no understanding of "how the alt market historically relates to the bitcoin market".
1180  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 27, 2019, 06:51:11 AM
I've read the posts about SF. I've never been to the US, and will come in a few months, for a wedding...in San Francisco. I'm all excited now !

Well, I guess it's not exactly _everywhere_. Been here a couplea days this time, none seen. Thankfully.

Though what really puzzles me is the car home favleas in Palo Alto. WTF is that all about?
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