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1181  Economy / Economics / Re: Valour Launches World's First Fee-Free Bitcoin Exchange Traded Product (ETP) on: December 06, 2020, 10:41:27 AM
Like buying shares, that's it. The financial jurassic circus is opening up all these old jurassic financial instruments to give some sort of bitcoin exposure to old financial riches. If that's all we can have to reach moon, so be it. I will always stick to my glourious unspent transaction outputs.
 Cool
1182  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2020-12-03 BusinessInsider.com - Shark Tank investo Bitcoin needs ETF, volatile on: December 06, 2020, 10:32:28 AM
Bitcoin inesorably demolished any other asset as of now in terms of compared BTC value. If we really think of it, there has never been something like it before (if you know anything similar or better, please point that out to me). Even a 5% diversification in altcoin is unbearable to me now.
1183  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Betnomi – Top Leagues Predictor – 1 BTC main prize - 3rd edition on: December 04, 2020, 09:11:48 PM
1.  Burnley FC vs. Everton FC - 2
2.  WWest Ham United FC vs. Manchester United FC - X
3.  West Bromwich Albion vs. Crystal Palace FC - 1
4.  Tottenham Hotspur FC vs. Arsenal FC - X

5.  Sevilla FC vs. Real Madrid - 2
6.  Granada CF vs. SD Huesca - 1
7.  CA Osasuna vs. Real Betis Balompie - X

8.  DSC Arminia Bielefeld  vs. 1. FSV Mainz 05 - X
9.  FC Koln vs. VfL Wolfsburg - 2
10. Werder Bremen vs. VfB Stuttgart - X

11. Hellas Verona FC vs. Cagliari Calcio - X
12. Parma Calcio 1913 vs. Benevento Calcio - 1
13. Udinese Calcio vs. Atalanta BC - 2
14. UC Sampdoria vs. AC Milan - X

15. LOSC Lille  vs. AS Monaco FC - X

Betnomi username: K102030
1184  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread on: December 04, 2020, 10:17:31 AM
Real Madrid have difficult matches ahead - Sevilla, Borussia and Atletico Madrid. The team is not ready to physically play all three matches. There are many injured players. Real needs to defeat Borussia in order not to depend on the result of the Shakhtar vs Inter match. This is a rather difficult task at the moment ...
The task is difficult, but doable for Real Madrid. The team has character and there is Zidane who knows how to set players up for important matches. I suppose that Real Madrid can sacrifice other matches in order to save energy for the match with Borussia. For Real Madrid, the Champions League will always prioritize other tournaments and matches.
You can't win the game on motivation alone. If Zidane is such a strong motivator, why couldn't he motivate the team to win the game against Shakhtar? After all, he said that the game is very important. The players are tired. Modrich, Cross, Varane play constantly. There are no substitutes for them. There are no players who can strengthen the game either. They can win against Borussia, but losing to Seville and Atletico Madrid, they will put an end to LaLiga.
Why not? These suckers get so much money that they should be privileged to play for Real. Tired? Come on, these guys live an easy life compared to other sports' players. They need a huge wake-up call and I hope they will get it. I am going to bet against them.
1185  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2020-12-03 BusinessInsider.com - Shark Tank investo Bitcoin needs ETF, volatile on: December 04, 2020, 10:11:46 AM
If he would know how my last balanced portfolio 80% btc and 20% shitcoins performed he would never think of doing a stupid move like that. That 20% lost most of his btc value by more than 60% lately before I was able to rebalance (it's a long story).
Since last month I am 100% bitcoin. I can't stand that crap anymore.
1186  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 04, 2020, 10:03:52 AM
Decided to set up a $25 daily recurring buy at Gemini, until I get bored after 'doing enough of that for a while', or run out of money - whichever comes first.

Let's see how this bold strategy plays out.

Might work better as selling a few weeks back  Tongue


Though I understand the decision as it’s just a % of the stash
Hom much in fees Bob? Don't tell me is 25 plain and simple
1187  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 03, 2020, 09:48:54 AM
When one starts receiving calls like in 2017... that's not a good sign.  Roll Eyes
I hope this time is different. Anyway, as soon as I mention that I now ask for money when doing bitcoin consulting they gently hang up.
250$/h doesn't look much too me  Grin Grin Grin
1188  Other / Meta / Re: 🏆 Bitcointalk Community Awards [Voting 2020] on: December 03, 2020, 09:38:32 AM
Here is my vote for Bitcointalk Community Awards.

1. Best Moderator .......................... gmaxwell, achow101
2. SpamBuster ............................... All those who silently and constantly report it
3. ScamBuster ............................... All those who silently and constantly report it
4. Golden Feather .......................... AlcoHoDL and most of the WOers
5. Event of the Year ......................  Bitcoin Halving, public companies buying corn
6. Fail of the Year ......................... me not buying more corn
7. Discovery of the Year ...............  FullNode, fillippone
8. Bitcoin Geek .............................Carlton Banks, 600watt, gmaxwell
9. Bitcointalk Ninja .......................  LoyceV
10. Craft Master ............................  Hhampuz
11. Antihero ................................... roach
12. Absolute Hero of Good ........... satoshi
13. Miss Bitcointalk ......................  Carolina
1189  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: [Vote 2020] Best Bitcointalk Interview on: December 03, 2020, 09:28:47 AM
Ok, leaving aside gmaxwell's outstanding interview and lot many others which were amazing too my vote goes to

Code:
vapourminer
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5262967.msg55057696#msg55057696

 Wink

BTW, this is such a great community!
1190  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-12-02} Most PayPal customers are willing to pay with Bitcoin on: December 03, 2020, 09:21:06 AM
Here follows an English version of the source provided by OP (will you please refrain from sharing sources which are not in English? thanks)
https://blockchain.news/news/mizuho-securities-research-65-paypal-users-ready-use-bitcoin

It would be interesting to know the average value of the txs made by those 20% of PPers who started using bitcoin on that platform. I couldn't believe they could reach this much of adoption in a small timeframe.

1191  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: GAMBLING SITE INVESTMENT on: December 03, 2020, 09:13:41 AM
Warning them is enough: I would never force anyone to do what others say. Newbies might get easily fooled into believing get rich quick schemes, doublings, HYIPs and similar things nonetheless we should warn them. After that, everyone is free to do whatever he likes.
If our warning might save even only one guy from losing his money, well, that was worth it.
1192  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 03, 2020, 09:10:20 AM
I don't know why a lot of people are being over to confident with Milan winning the league -snip-
Even though I like AC Milan, I don't agree with those who really believe Milan will get the title this season. The game has only been running for 9 weeks, there are still 29 matches to be passed. With this number of matches, other teams like Inter, Juventus can still return to their best and Milan lose first place at the end of the season. in my opinion, what makes sense for AC Milan is the chance to compete in the Champions League next season. Serie-A champions for AC Milan can indeed happen, as long as the inconsistency of Inter and Juventus, Atalanta and Napoli are continues until the end of the season. The things that might not happen.
Of course, we can't count on 9 games only yet I see AC Milan as the best-performing Italian team as of today. Many here wrote that Milan without Zlatan Ibrahimovic is bound to fail big but these guys demonstrate the opposite. I usually don't follow Serie A this much, however, Milan allowed me to get into it this year.
1193  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 02, 2020, 08:08:46 AM
All this talk of the search for happiness, reminds me of the Buddhist concept of grasping being the source of unhappiness.

Happiness, if found, will always be temporary. You can buy the new car and you'll be happy for a while, until you then want the new boat, which itself will make you happy for a while, until you want the helicopter, then the airplane, ad infinitum. The search for permanent happiness will always be endless. Instead, Buddhism (well, some of its schools) would suggest that contentedness, rather than happiness, should be the goal.

Be content with what you have. Which doesn't mean that you shouldn't try to improve your situation and that of others, but that you should be content with whatever outcome arrives.

The whole "happiness" industry has just become so "Americanised" (or maybe "Californianised") to have simply become an industry of easily digested and poorly written books and websites. It's saddening, when there is potentially so much more to be learned here.


Gave up my last sMerit before reading this, so

+1 WOsMerit

Satisfaction, from my point of view, is self-made. Once you're generally satisfied with your life, and this is where we should not have to complain too much, for example compared to an average north korean or somali citizen, you are able to find happiness quite often and easily. Accepting that things that happen are good, things you have are enough (and so on) instad of following and thus building your ego's frustration and discontent, is basically a way to more happiness.
Avoiding comparison is the key.

I can look at my bitcoin "stash", have three choices:

1. Most WOs have way more corn than me
2. I have *insert low number here* coins, but most people i know have none and probably never will.
3. Hey, i own bitcoins! fucking brilliant!


Nice. Now go and merit the guy with real ones (I am out now but sharing is caring).
BTW, I like your three points. We are friends it seems. Wink
1194  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 02, 2020, 07:57:13 AM
2 Turns off for Morata and we still don't know why, ah Italians...

Juve have the option to do an appeal but in these cases, you will "never" win the appeal.
You mean Spanish because Alvaro Morata is obviously from Spain. The referee gave him a red card at the end of the match because he criticized the guy about the penalty kick. There may be a chance of winning the appeal if he did not say any swear words: if he only said that it was an embarassing penalty kick Juventus might get half of the ban.
1195  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: GAMBLING SITE INVESTMENT on: December 02, 2020, 07:48:40 AM
There are too many factors that contribute to making these kinds of investments too risky for me. I already mentioned the fact that the site owners can go rogue and disappear (it happened so many times, and don't believe that a longer presence means security), there can be a theft from the outside, some glitch in the games that allow people to win big (and destroy your investment).
These are the main ones and they are too many.
I get your point specially if there are Many investors that supports the process then for sure this will cost tons of amount and can make the owner blinded and instead of running the site He may decide to Run and take the money instead.

but of course Lets give the benefit of the doubt since this is experimental and obviously OP just wanted to Show everyone whats Inside the investment process,So readers need to decide depend on what they see and what they learn.

For some, even a small profit can be worth taking risks. I am focusing more on the unnecessary risks (I've already expressed earlier on) that one takes when investing in these entities than on the potential profit.
I will never be tired of warning users (especially newbies) about the potential risks they are assuming for some small profit. Easy as that.
In the end, it's about the message and I hope mine is clear enough.

1196  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Everything you wanted to know about Grayscale BTC Trust but were afraid to ask! on: December 02, 2020, 07:41:25 AM

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All asset and wealth management firms rip-off their clients with unnecessary fees and premiums on their services. It doesn't matter if it's bitcoin or oil or an AI technology index. They will suck the lymph out of their clients' money to grease their never-ending mechanism.
It doesn't surprise me. And 2%, to be honest, doesn't look very high to me.

Are you kidding me? Many ETP’s (general definition for Exchange Traded Products) have a 0.25% fee. Some have a 0% fee. 0.50% fees means there is a special feature on those.
Also do you know how much is it 2% yearly? If you buy a single bitcoin in GBTC after 5 years of holding you are left with 0.904 BTC.
I don’t like that.

I get what you mean man, but remember grayscale is not for us (otherwise they would have never reached those massive numbers). That is the price to pay to get exposure to btc for those overly rich companies, trust and entities which drown in useless fiat and need to diversify into btc.
May I be provocative here? What if we are in front of an institutional washing machine?
Who knows.
1197  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 01, 2020, 08:45:35 AM
You are going too fast for me. With you, I mean all of you plus corn.
 Grin
1198  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-11-30] Watch Grayscale Bitcoin Trust For BTC Price Clues - JPMorgan on: December 01, 2020, 08:38:02 AM
There is an excellent thread on all-things Grayscale here on Bitcointalk
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5256529.0
You will find detailed data and analytics (plus our comments) on what gbtc has been doing so far. Might worth keeping an eye on it.
1199  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: GAMBLING SITE INVESTMENT on: December 01, 2020, 08:34:30 AM
There are too many factors that contribute to making these kinds of investments too risky for me. I already mentioned the fact that the site owners can go rogue and disappear (it happened so many times, and don't believe that a longer presence means security), there can be a theft from the outside, some glitch in the games that allow people to win big (and destroy your investment).
These are the main ones and they are too many.
1200  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Everything you wanted to know about Grayscale BTC Trust but were afraid to ask! on: December 01, 2020, 08:30:51 AM
It’s a love-hate relationship the one I have with Grayscale.
Love, because they are eroding bitcoin whales stash, putting bitcoins back into circulation instead of letting them buried in some obscure cold wallet. And ultimately bitcoin has value if someone uses it, we cannot be all holders!

Secondly, Love because this transfer from weak hands to strong hands is what makes the stock to flow work like a clock.
Third, also love because they are a tremendous organisation. They know their work very well and operate with sheer efficiency in what they are doing.

But I also hate them:
The first reason why I hate them is because they take no risk, this is not their money, it’s client’s money.

I hate them because they rip-off the final user, the retail one:they have a 20%+ premium on their BTC funds. And when you get your precocious shares, they start eating straight away an outrageously high 2% fees. 

Third I hate them because they can do so because they are a monopoly. In Europe we have several ETP: none of them has a significant premium over the NAV. yet all of them have a 2% management fee: the competition is going to hear in that direction.

Fourth I hate them as they will be wiped out by a SEC approved ETF in the US. In a matter of weeks their coins would flow towards the leaner, cheaper structure. I am not suggesting they are lobbying against it in the US, but the chunk of business they would lose is Huygens!

Ah. I also leve them because of this thread!

All asset and wealth management firms rip-off their clients with unnecessary fees and premiums on their services. It doesn't matter if it's bitcoin or oil or an AI technology index. They will suck the lymph out of their clients' money to grease their never-ending mechanism.
It doesn't surprise me. And 2%, to be honest, doesn't look very high to me.
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