These are the identities that I see..
I understand that the DarkExchange identity comes from the peers.txt file. Should there be anything in the log to confirm connection via the I2P router. Or is there someplace in the I2P router console to confirm the Dark Exchange client? I'll poke around.
1 SlipperySlope MIGfMA0GC ... 2 DarkExchange MIGfMA0GC ...
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As I described in the PM sent to you, I explicitly set the classpath jar sequence, and removed the possibly redundant org.bouncycastle package from the i2p jar. The application launches OK and finds the DarkExchange peer listed on the Identity tab. The search does not present an exception but I do not see any search results when I enter ..
I Have Bitcoin To Send BY Bitcoin Transfer I Want United States of America, Dollars Sent by Dwolla
There is no change in the log file as a result of the search attempt.
------------- By the way, I have been running I2P ever since I downloaded it for Dark Exchange. It has a wonderful web page dashboard automatically updated every 60 seconds. It says that I've connected with 831 known peers. A few years ago, I wrote my own peer-to-peer cryptographic messaging system and name service to support a distributed knowledge base application, and I wish that I had then known about I2P!
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I speculate that the bitcoin bubble began this year, and that when fully deflated the bubble will bottom out at April 2011 prices, unless there is a dramatic increase in the bitcoin economy before the bottom. Say $1.
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I sold my 12 month hoard of mined bitcoins at around $15.5. I am also selling new mined coins at market. This bubble has to completely deflate before I start hoarding again.
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I liquidated my 12 month hoard in various trades at around $15.5. I'm also now selling my mined bitcoins at market.
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I paid about $1500 for three case-less mining rigs + UPS, 6 x 5770, 1200 MH/sec. Draws 860 watts from the socket, in a non-airconditioned environment.
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I wonder how long they will last? Has miner demand finally turned around?
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We will re-test the low of $10.xx (very low $10, and maybe below), by tomorrow at the latest, IMO.*
*I could be wrong, but this one feels like the real thing... Get ready to buy low!
In a bull market price corrections can be dramatic drops, but conversely in a bear market - as perhaps the bitcoin bubble deflates - price drops can be slow with sharp upward corrections. Do not expect an immediate fall back to April prices if in fact there is a bear market in bitcoins.
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Where's the support level? $8?
June 12, support held at $10, when prices sharply dropped that day. If this fails, then earlier, May 12-17 and again on May 26-30, $8 was the upward resistance level, which may be the next support level. At what point would you be a buyer, or alternatively hold rather then sell freshly mined bitcoins?
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I installed I2P OK. Then I downloaded and installed Dark Exchange. After I created an account OK, I attempted to trade US dollars for bitcoins and this error occurred... ERROR [darkexchange.model.interceptors.signature-interceptor]: an error occured while signing or verifying a signature on the client side. java.security.NoSuchAlgorithmException: Error constructing implementation (algorithm: SHA1WithRSAEncryption, provider: BC, class: org.bouncycastle.jce.provider.JDKDigestSignature$SHA1WithRSAEncryption) at java.security.Provider$Service.newInstance(Provider.java:1245) at sun.security.jca.GetInstance.getInstance(GetInstance.java:220) at sun.security.jca.GetInstance.getInstance(GetInstance.java:190) at java.security.Signature.getInstance(Signature.java:324) at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method) at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39) at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25) at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597) at clojure.lang.Reflector.invokeMatchingMethod(Reflector.java:90) at clojure.lang.Reflector.invokeStaticMethod(Reflector.java:202) at darkexchange.model.security$sign.invoke(security.clj:139) at darkexchange.model.user$sign.invoke(user.clj:141) at darkexchange.model.interceptors.signature_interceptor$sign.invoke(signature_interceptor.clj:17) at darkexchange.model.interceptors.signature_interceptor$client_interceptor.invoke(signature_interceptor.clj:47) at darkexchange.model.interceptors.interceptor_util$compose_interceptors$fn__4707$fn__4708.invoke(interceptor_util.clj:4) at darkexchange.model.interceptors.identity_interceptor$client_interceptor.invoke(identity_interceptor.clj:17) at darkexchange.model.interceptors.interceptor_util$compose_interceptors$fn__4707.invoke(interceptor_util.clj:4) at darkexchange.model.interceptors.interceptor_util$run_interceptors.invoke(interceptor_util.clj:9) at darkexchange.model.interceptors.client_interceptors$run_interceptors.invoke(client_interceptors.clj:10) at darkexchange.model.client$send_message.invoke(client.clj:26) at darkexchange.model.peer$get_peers_from.invoke(peer.clj:98) at darkexchange.model.peer$all_network_destinations.invoke(peer.clj:152) at darkexchange.model.peer$download_peers_background.invoke(peer.clj:159) at darkexchange.model.peer$download_peers_background.invoke(peer.clj:164) at darkexchange.model.peer$download_peers_background.invoke(peer.clj:155) at clojure.lang.AFn.run(AFn.java:24) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:662) Caused by: java.lang.SecurityException: class "org.bouncycastle.crypto.Digest"'s signer information does not match signer information of other classes in the same package at java.lang.ClassLoader.checkCerts(ClassLoader.java:807) at java.lang.ClassLoader.preDefineClass(ClassLoader.java:488) at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClassCond(ClassLoader.java:626) at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:616) at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java:141) at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(URLClassLoader.java:283) at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$000(URLClassLoader.java:58) at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:197) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:190) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:307) at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:301) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:248) at java.lang.Class.getDeclaredConstructors0(Native Method) at java.lang.Class.privateGetDeclaredConstructors(Class.java:2389) at java.lang.Class.getConstructor0(Class.java:2699) at java.lang.Class.newInstance0(Class.java:326) at java.lang.Class.newInstance(Class.java:308) at java.security.Provider$Service.newInstance(Provider.java:1221) ... 26 more ERROR [darkexchange.model.interceptors.signature-interceptor]: an error occured while signing or verifying a signature on the client side. java.security.NoSuchAlgorithmException: Error constructing implementation (algorithm: SHA1WithRSAEncryption, provider: BC, class: org.bouncycastle.jce.provider.JDKDigestSignature$SHA1WithRSAEncryption) at java.security.Provider$Service.newInstance(Provider.java:1245) at sun.security.jca.GetInstance.getInstance(GetInstance.java:220) at sun.security.jca.GetInstance.getInstance(GetInstance.java:190) at java.security.Signature.getInstance(Signature.java:324) at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method) at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39) at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25) at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597) at clojure.lang.Reflector.invokeMatchingMethod(Reflector.java:90) at clojure.lang.Reflector.invokeStaticMethod(Reflector.java:202) at darkexchange.model.security$sign.invoke(security.clj:139) at darkexchange.model.user$sign.invoke(user.clj:141) at darkexchange.model.interceptors.signature_interceptor$sign.invoke(signature_interceptor.clj:17) at darkexchange.model.interceptors.signature_interceptor$client_interceptor.invoke(signature_interceptor.clj:47) at darkexchange.model.interceptors.interceptor_util$compose_interceptors$fn__4707$fn__4708.invoke(interceptor_util.clj:4) at darkexchange.model.interceptors.identity_interceptor$client_interceptor.invoke(identity_interceptor.clj:17) at darkexchange.model.interceptors.interceptor_util$compose_interceptors$fn__4707.invoke(interceptor_util.clj:4) at darkexchange.model.interceptors.interceptor_util$run_interceptors.invoke(interceptor_util.clj:9) at darkexchange.model.interceptors.client_interceptors$run_interceptors.invoke(client_interceptors.clj:10) at darkexchange.model.client$send_message.invoke(client.clj:26) at darkexchange.model.calls.notify$call.invoke(notify.clj:10) at darkexchange.model.peer$notify_destination.invoke(peer.clj:92) at darkexchange.model.peer$notify_all_peers.invoke(peer.clj:134) at darkexchange.model.peer$add_destinations.invoke(peer.clj:147) at darkexchange.model.peer$download_peers_background.invoke(peer.clj:161) at darkexchange.model.peer$download_peers_background.invoke(peer.clj:164) at darkexchange.model.peer$download_peers_background.invoke(peer.clj:155) at clojure.lang.AFn.run(AFn.java:24) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:662) Caused by: java.lang.SecurityException: class "org.bouncycastle.crypto.Digest"'s signer information does not match signer information of other classes in the same package at java.lang.ClassLoader.checkCerts(ClassLoader.java:807) at java.lang.ClassLoader.preDefineClass(ClassLoader.java:488) at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClassCond(ClassLoader.java:626) at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:616) at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java:141) at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(URLClassLoader.java:283) at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$000(URLClassLoader.java:58) at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:197) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:190) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:307) at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:301) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:248) at java.lang.Class.getDeclaredConstructors0(Native Method) at java.lang.Class.privateGetDeclaredConstructors(Class.java:2389) at java.lang.Class.getConstructor0(Class.java:2699) at java.lang.Class.newInstance0(Class.java:326) at java.lang.Class.newInstance(Class.java:308) at java.security.Provider$Service.newInstance(Provider.java:1221) ... 28 more
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I wish I could short bitcoins.
Who would lend you bitcoins to short? I think that the only way to make money speculating on bitcoin value while the bubble deflates is to buy when you think prices have bottomed. Good luck.
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Anybody here familiar with a head-n-shoulders trend. Look at the mt gox closing price chart for the past 3 months. Were on the left shoulder. I will bet on it. The value will go up. There's the value that were overlooking: fun & addiction. It's the reason zynga is so successful. The price will go up.
Coinvestor (Ryan)
Hi Ryan, For those who do not know about the famous Head and Shoulders technical analysis chart pattern, here is the Wikipedia description: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_and_shoulders_(chart_pattern) In contrast to your analysis, I believe that we are on the right shoulder and that is strongly negative, should that pattern be completed.
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This thread makes statisticians cry. Correlation does not imply causation. Even economists don't approach the economy with such large scale external input, they like to say "ceteris paribus." I wonder how many tears were shed by economists when they devised leading indicators. I cannot imagine how such economic tools could have been proposed without searching for correlations of time series having predictive power. from http://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/leadingindicator.asp ... What Does Leading Indicator Mean? A measurable economic factor that changes before the economy starts to follow a particular pattern or trend. Leading indicators are used to predict changes in the economy, but are not always accurate.
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Here is a link to the rates page ... http://wm-center.com/rates.php?type=exch Bitcoin % com. Min. com. LibertyReserve USD - 5% 5 USD EURO LibertyReserve EURO - 5% 5 USD Pecunix USD - 5% 5 USD C-gold USD - 3% 5 USD Global Digital Pay USD + 10% 0 USD Global Digital Pay EURO - 5% 5 USD HooPay USD - 5% 5 USD PayPal USD - 5% 5 USD Perfect Money USD - 5% 5 USD Perfect Money EURO - 5% 5 USD Paxum USD - 5% 5 USD PayPal EURO - 5% 5 USD
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In Austin, Texas, many older homes have pier and beam construction which permits the easy access to water pipes in the crawl space under the house. That's where I put three mining rigs that together draw 860 watts from the socket. The ambient temperture is a steady 30 C, 86 F, despite recent highs over 100 F. Here is a recent temperature reading from one of the rigs. Its 3 hours after sunset. user@linuxcoin02:~$ DISPLAY=:0.0 aticonfig --odgt --adapter=all
Adapter 0 - ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series Sensor 0: Temperature - 74.00 C
Adapter 1 - ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series Sensor 0: Temperature - 65.00 C
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It would be great if Newegg supported bitcoin. Especially for international orders.
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Do you hold any bitcoins?
If you have sold yours expecting a dip, at what price point would you buy them back?
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On the whole I think that if we are in fact in the declining phases of a bitcoin bubble, then that is a good thing for the industry. The $US 30 bitcoin attracted a lot of attention which should be good for increasing use of bitcoins in commercial transactions.
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It might be that the parity of bitcoin with the US dollar was the news back in April, and public interest peaked with 30 USD bitcoins. Perhaps its the lack of news that is leading to the lack of firmness in the July bitcoin market.
I would like to hear more news about increased bitcoin transactions. For example, increased use in international trade. I plan to start tracking bitcoin-days transaction volume as a possible predictive indicator, once the current speculative bubble is over with.
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Looks like a decline to test 10, then test 8. Recall that in April one could buy a bitcoin for a US dollar. What has changed in the meantime beyond a dramatic bump in public interest that is now subsiding?
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