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121  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: October 10, 2018, 10:45:05 PM
3 scientists just won a Nobel Prize for using evolution in chemisty!

https://www.nobelprize.org/uploads/2018/10/popular-chemistryprize2018.pdf

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A (r)evolution in chemistry

  The power of evolution is revealed through the diversity of life. The Nobel Prize in Chemistry 2018 is awarded to Frances H. Arnold, George P. Smith and Sir Gregory P. Winter for the way they have taken control of evolution and used it for the greatest benefit to humankind. Enzymes developed through directed evolution are now used to produce biofuels and pharmaceuticals, among other things. Antibodies evolved using a method called phage display can combat autoimmune diseases and, in some cases, cure metastatic cancer.
(...)
  This process has now come so far that it has given rise to three individuals so complex they have managed to master evolution themselves. The Nobel Prize in Chemistry 2018 is awarded to Frances H. Arnold, George P. Smith and Sir Gregory P. Winter, because they have revolutionized both chemistry and the development of new pharmaceuticals through directed evolution. Let’s begin with the star of enzyme engineering: Frances Arnold. 
(...)
  For several years, she had tried to change an enzyme called subtilisin so that rather than catalysing chemical reactions in a water-based solution, it would work in an organic solvent, dimethylformamide (DMF). Now she created random changes – mutations – in the enzyme’s genetic code and then introduced these mutated genes into bacteria that produced thousands of different variants of subtilisin.

  After this, the challenge was to find out which of all these variants worked best in the organic solvent. In evolution, we talk about survival of the fittest; in directed evolution this stage is called selection.
 
  Frances Arnold utilised the fact that subtilisin breaks down milk protein, casein. She then selected the variant of subtilisin that was most effective in breaking down casein in a solution with 35 per cent DMF. She subsequently introduced a new round of random mutations in this subtilisin, which yielded a variant that worked even better in DMF.

  In the third generation of subtilisin she found a variant that worked 256 times better in DMF than the original enzyme. This variant of the enzyme had a combination of ten different mutations, the benefits of which no one could have worked out in advance.

  With this, Frances Arnold demonstrated the power of allowing chance and directed selection, instead of solely human rationality, to govern the development of new enzymes. This was the first and most decisive step towards the revolution we are now witnessing.

  The next important step was taken by Willem P. C. Stemmer, a Dutch researcher and entrepreneur who died in 2013. He introduced yet another dimension to the directed evolution of enzymes: mating in a test tube.

(continued at https://www.nobelprize.org/uploads/2018/10/popular-chemistryprize2018.pdf)


Nobel prize for science involving evolution = Checkmate

Now where is BADLogic's Nobel Prize?
122  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? on: October 10, 2018, 04:11:37 PM
People are being mean to me  Cry

Says the guy who spent months, if not years, attacking atheists, etc

You can dish it out, but can't take it?

For what it's worth, stating facts is not a personal attack... sorry, not sorry
123  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Pseudoscience is Modern Medicine on: October 10, 2018, 03:59:37 PM
Homeopathic ; Ayurveda medicines are alternative having no side effects.

The reason homeopathic "medicines" have no side effects because is because they have no effects whatsoever. They are sham water tablets. Go peddle your scam elsewhere please.

I don't think Ayurveda and Homeopathy are equivalent in any way beyond their ineffectiveness

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayurveda#Classification_and_efficacy

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Although laboratory experiments suggest it is possible that some substances in Ayurveda might be developed into effective treatments, there is no evidence that any are effective in themselves.
(...)

Some traditional Indian herbal medicinal products contain harmful levels of heavy metals, including lead. A 1990 study on Ayurvedic medicines in India found that 41% of the products tested contained arsenic, and that 64% contained lead and mercury. A 2004 study found toxic levels of heavy metals in 20% of Ayurvedic preparations made in South Asia and sold in the Boston area, and concluded that Ayurvedic products posed serious health risks and should be tested for heavy-metal contamination. A 2008 study of more than 230 products found that approximately 20% of remedies (and 40% of rasa shastra medicines) purchased over the Internet from U.S. and Indian suppliers contained lead, mercury or arsenic. A 2015 study of users in the United States found elevated blood lead levels in 40% of those tested, leading physician and former U.S. Air Force flight surgeon Harriet Hall to say that "Ayurveda is basically superstition mixed with a soupçon of practical health advice. And it can be dangerous."

The "no side-effects" claim is debunked by the above quote... 40% have elevated blood pressure, and many of these "medicines" contain toxic levels of heavy metals
124  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? on: October 10, 2018, 03:00:39 PM
Well Coincube is one of those guys that are smarter than the average christian. He actually accepts evolution and doesn't believe the earth is only 10k years old if I recall correctly.

Actually, the average christian accepts evolution these days

This is from 2009, but ~50% of christians accepted evolution.




Here is a poll from in 2017

Story Highlights

    38% say God created man in present form, lowest in 35 years
    Same percentage say humans evolved, but God guided the process
    Less-educated Americans more likely to believe in creationism



% who believe God created humans in present form within last 10,000 years:
By religion:
Protestant/Other Christian = 50%
Catholic = 37%
No-religion = 9% (who are these guys?!?)

By education:
High school or less = 48%
College graduate = 24%
Post graduate = 21%

I know it sounds cray cray, but less than half of christians believe in creationism
125  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Pseudoscience is Modern Medicine on: October 10, 2018, 11:26:47 AM
I find it interesting how many people are anti-science or anti-medicine... But, when they are sick, they go to the doctor

Religious people be all like, "God can fix anything if you believe in him"... but they still go to the doctor/hospital whenever they or their children get sick or in an accident... nobody actually trusts God to fix them

We all know that God will not heal an amputee or heal any wound that couldn't heal by itself without God's intervention... it's never happened

"Science - It works bitches" -Richard Dawkins
126  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? on: October 10, 2018, 10:58:15 AM
...
1. Our universe, our chemistry and physics are are not lottery but design.
2. The fact that we are here is therefore not pure chance.  
3. Humanity was created in the image of our creator and is inherently valuable.
...

Wow, I did not expect that from you.  I thought you were smarter than that.

You realize CoinCube is the guy who started a thread titled, "Athiesm is Poison", right? (can't even spell Atheism) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1373864.0)

He was bashing atheism daily, for more than a month, until I created a thread titled, "Christianity is poison"... at which point he finally renamed the thread... not exactly a brain genius you are dealing with here
127  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Albert Einstein Letter Calling God a “Product of Human Weakness” is Up for Sale on: October 10, 2018, 10:52:38 AM
I really have no idea

Maybe you should have an idea, and a thought or two, before blindly following something you don't understand.


nor do I care to be honest

You'll make a perfect socialist.  Honesty is the bane of socialism, so of course you don't care to be honest.

Fucking fantastic job of taking something out of context to build a straw-man that you can attack

A straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not presented by that opponent. One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man."

The typical straw man argument creates the illusion of having completely refuted or defeated an opponent's proposition through the covert replacement of it with a different proposition (i.e., "stand up a straw man") and the subsequent refutation of that false argument ("knock down a straw man") instead of the opponent's proposition.

This technique has been used throughout history in polemical debate, particularly in arguments about highly charged emotional issues where a fiery "battle" and the defeat of an "enemy" may be more valued than critical thinking or an understanding of both sides of the issue.
128  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Pseudoscience is Modern Medicine on: October 09, 2018, 12:21:29 PM
Interesting how you can replace the word pseudoscience with religion and every sentence becomes true
129  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The difference between science and religion on: October 09, 2018, 02:37:35 AM
I found this on the interwebs

The important difference between science and religion is that religion comes with ABSOLUTE statements, that neither can be proved or disproved, and science evolves from relative truths and statements, that can be testified and proven false (which means: science has to develop, in order to replace (partly) untrue theories, and replace them with better ones). Science does not claim it has absolute knowledge on anything. Religion claims it has.

All scientific theories are in principle disprovable, and in the end all theories will be disproven (at least it can be shown there is a limiting case in which the theory does not work).

Religion can in principle not be disproven. Which does not contribute either to it's proof. It is also unprovable.

If something is neither provable nor disprovable, then it is useless.
It can only have value to people who prefer to be ignorant, and don't want to get into complicated knowledge, and prefer to believe in something that is disprovable.

Science is for people that realize that in order to acquire knowledge, some work (sometimes a LOT) has to be done! And even despite you put in a LOT of work, someone else my disproof all (or part) of your work! That is : you have to try even harder!

Religion is for people who claim to know EVERYTHING ABSOLUTELY ("God created the world", for instance ) without having done any work to get to that opinion, and for which nobody can give any disproof. So it is a very safe position. You don't have to do WORK for entitling yourself an opinion on matters that seem important, and nobody can force you to do some work for finding a better opinion, cause there lacks the ability to disproof you.

What a comfortable position!
130  Other / Politics & Society / Re: No religion can save us? on: October 09, 2018, 02:19:06 AM
I fully agree with the topic of this thread, except I would replace the question mark with an exclamation point, like this:

No religion can save us!

Though, I suppose that leaves it as a double-entendre.  Perhaps, "non-religion can save us!" would be more precise
131  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christianity is Poison on: October 09, 2018, 02:06:23 AM
I find it amazing how many christians say that muslims need to speak out against terrorism, etc... but, when I show them the bad things their own group is doing, they are all like, "we shouldn't talk about religion, it's a sensitive topic"

So very hypocritical to ignore the flaws in your own group, but insist another group do something...

I believe Jesus said, "Remove the log from your own eye before trying to remove the splinter from someone else's eye"
132  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Albert Einstein Letter Calling God a “Product of Human Weakness” is Up for Sale on: October 09, 2018, 01:27:51 AM
Kinda neat how 70% of them make it into both top-10 lists, eh?  (also note, USA did not make it into the top-10)

ROFLOL, Countries with high taxes and lots of social programs are not SOCIALIST.  You obviously don't know what socialism is.  Try again.  

Praytell, what is socialism then?  Don't say I'm wrong without providing "correct" information for me, that's just rude (not that I even made a claim about socialism, I simply googled it)

It's not even "my" list... do you need me to google this for you AGAIN?!?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=top+socialist+countries

Let me try.  Socialism is a social structure where the means of production and its distribution is controlled by all members of that structure.

A capitalist system with lots of social programs is not a socialist system.  In the countries on your list, people do not decide how the economic system is run.  Capitalists do that.  

Equality of outcomes for the 99% does not make the system a socialist system.  Capitalists still run and control such systems.

@af_newbie, Well put.  Thanks for responding for me.

@Moloch, here's a hint on how to make the determination:  If a country has one or more corporations based within it's boarders that is not under complete control of the government, it ain't socialist.

I suppose, like everything, different people define things differently... the top google result listed those countries as socialist, so I assume that is the majority opinion (unless you think google is some sort of liberal conspiracy)

Perhaps people are including democratic-socialism under the umbrella of "socialism"... I really have no idea, nor do I care to be honest

It is what it is... all I did was google it for you
133  Other / Politics & Society / Re: No religion can save us? on: October 08, 2018, 10:26:50 PM
Religion is the opium for masses

I prefer actual opium... religion doesn't get me high at all
134  Other / Politics & Society / Re: No religion can save us? on: October 08, 2018, 08:53:25 PM
Save us from what?

I don't see a problem, nor a solution through religion... religion just wants your money for some entertainment (if you are into that sort of entertainment)

"Life is pain, highness... anyone who says differently is selling something" -Wesley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThDwS79HPhs
135  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Albert Einstein Letter Calling God a “Product of Human Weakness” is Up for Sale on: October 08, 2018, 01:36:54 PM
Kinda neat how 70% of them make it into both top-10 lists, eh?  (also note, USA did not make it into the top-10)

ROFLOL, Countries with high taxes and lots of social programs are not SOCIALIST.  You obviously don't know what socialism is.  Try again.  

Praytell, what is socialism then?  Don't say I'm wrong without providing "correct" information for me, that's just rude (not that I even made a claim about socialism, I simply googled it)

It's not even "my" list... do you need me to google this for you AGAIN?!?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=top+socialist+countries
136  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? on: October 08, 2018, 01:04:53 PM
137  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? on: October 08, 2018, 12:32:07 PM
I am familiar with 3 completely separate methods in which 1+2+3+... = -1/12.  The first was presented by Leonhard Euler using various infinite series manipulations

The simple explanation is that is uses Euler's Identity to convert the imaginary part to a real number.  If you believe e^i*pi = -1, then you should also believe that 1+2+3+... = -1/12... it uses the exact same mathematics

I'm sorry you don't get it, but it is what it is... it is like dealing with "imaginary numbers" - not everything makes sense intuitively... don't blame the messenger because you didn't understand the message
138  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? on: October 08, 2018, 12:07:29 PM
Thank you Moloch the Merciful.  Moloch Akbar!  Moloch Akbar! Moloch Akbar!

PS. And that is how new religions are born.  People have questions and others have answers. LOL

Ask a silly question, get a silly answer Wink

I do somewhat subscribe to the simulation theory... Like Elon Musk, I find it too plausible to disbelieve.  The Hindus and Buddhists have been saying similar for thousands of years, only they call it reincarnation

I find the idea of reincarnation more plausible than the idea that god created everyone with less than 100 years to find the correct religion or they spend eternity being tortured by an omnibenevolent god... the latter being a contradiction of an omnibenevolent god torturing souls for eternity, simply for making the wrong choice with limited/bad/contradictory information

Only if the universe can be reduced to computable, close-form functions.  How do you do that with infinities that are all around us since the Big Bang?

What infinities?  I've never seen an infinite amount of anything in this universe... have you?

Mathematics is the only place I've seen anyone dare to use the word, and that is purely abstract, not anything real or observable.  There is also math that deals with "imaginary numbers", but that doesn't make them real either.  I have never seen a quantity of sqrt(-1) either

Furthermore, mathematics does have ways of turning infinities into finite numbers.  I saw someone earlier asking about the sum of all natural numbers (1+2+3+4+...).  The Riemann Zeta function handles infinities quite well.  According to this function, the sum of 1+2+3+... = -1/12.  Surprising, but when used in quantum mechanics to replace infinity with -1/12, it works!  The math checks out via multiple proofs using different methods.  Not all infinities sum to -1/12, only this particular one, but the Zeta function will give a finite answer to any infinity that actually works in the math, and is concordant with our observations of reality


On a side note: I drew my avatar using the Riemann Zeta function.  The points on the right (non-infinites) correspond exactly to the center of the spirals on the left (infinities)

-1/12 is not the actual sum.  Read it again, don't skip the important words :-)

It is counter-intuitive, but that is the answer... I'm quite familiar with this method (again, refer to my avatar, I have done serious work in this field of study)
139  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? on: October 08, 2018, 11:59:01 AM
Thank you Moloch the Merciful.  Moloch Akbar!  Moloch Akbar! Moloch Akbar!

PS. And that is how new religions are born.  People have questions and others have answers. LOL

Ask a silly question, get a silly answer Wink

I do somewhat subscribe to the simulation theory... Like Elon Musk, I find it too plausible to disbelieve.  The Hindus and Buddhists have been saying similar for thousands of years, only they call it reincarnation

I find the idea of reincarnation more plausible than the idea that god created everyone with less than 100 years to find the correct religion or they spend eternity being tortured by an omnibenevolent god... the latter being a contradiction of an omnibenevolent god torturing souls for eternity, simply for making the wrong choice with limited/bad/contradictory information

Only if the universe can be reduced to computable, close-form functions.  How do you do that with infinities that are all around us since the Big Bang?

What infinities?  I've never seen an infinite amount of anything in this universe... have you?

Mathematics is the only place I've seen anyone dare to use the word, and that is purely abstract, not anything real or observable.  There is also math that deals with "imaginary numbers", but that doesn't make them real either.  I have never seen a quantity of sqrt(-1) either

Furthermore, mathematics does have ways of turning infinities into finite numbers.  I saw someone earlier asking about the sum of all natural numbers (1+2+3+4+...).  The Riemann Zeta function handles infinities quite well.  According to this function, the sum of 1+2+3+... = -1/12.  Surprising, but when used in quantum mechanics to replace this infinity with -1/12, it works!  The math checks out via multiple proofs using different methods.  Not all infinities sum to -1/12, only this particular one, but the Zeta function will give a finite answer to any infinity.  That finite number actually works in the math, and is concordant with our observations of reality


On a side note: I drew my avatar using the Riemann Zeta function.  The points on the right (non-infinites) correspond exactly to the center of the spirals on the left (infinities)
140  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Albert Einstein Letter Calling God a “Product of Human Weakness” is Up for Sale on: October 08, 2018, 11:32:31 AM
Name one socialist country that has prospered, or provided prosperity for their citizens.  Just one.

Let me google that for you! (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=top+socialist+countries)

First result is this:
Top 10 Most Socialist Countries in the World
http://blog.peerform.com/top-ten-most-socialist-countries-in-the-world/

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   China
    Denmark
    Finland
    Netherlands
    Canada
    Sweden
    Norway
    Ireland
    New Zealand
    Belgium

I'm guessing you have heard of a few of these countries? (you only asked for 1 and I gave you 10... sorry, not sorry)

I hear all of them are doing quite well economically, and socially... for example, if you google "happiest countries in the world", you get a very similar list:

The top countries frequently have high values for all six of the key variables that contribute to overall well-being: income (GDP per capita), healthy life expectancy, social support, freedom, trust (absence of corruption) and generosity.

Here are the top 10 happiest countries and how they measure on the Cantril ladder:

1. Finland: 7.632
2. Norway: 7.594
3. Denmark: 7.555
4. Iceland: 7.495
5. Switzerland: 7.487
6. Netherlands: 7.441
7. Canada: 7.328
8. New Zealand: 7.324
9. Sweden: 7.314
10. Australia: 7.272

Kinda neat how 70% of them make it into both top-10 lists, eh?  (also note, USA did not make it into the top-10)
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