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1061  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 20, 2016, 11:58:41 PM
So... I saw an ambulance driving down the highway... with a logo on the back reading, "In God We Trust"



Isn't it ironic to put, "In God We Trust" on an ambulance?

I mean... they aren't taking the patient to church... they are taking them to the hospital... ya know, that place full of science and shit... where human doctors heal patients, not gods

A more appropriate logo might read, "In Science We Trust", or "In Medicine We Trust", or "In Doctors We Trust"... right?
1062  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Bernie Sanders able to make a surprise win in the California Democratic prima on: May 18, 2016, 08:54:40 PM
I wouldn't call it a win, probably closer to a tie...

He is likely to do 15% +/- better than polling due to open primary, etc
1063  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Other dudes Penis on: May 18, 2016, 05:57:30 AM
1064  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 17, 2016, 11:28:43 PM

People have been claiming their zombie jesus will come back for 2000 years... still waiting...


Stop waiting and blaming Jesus for your problems: Satana is your problem and in the name of Molech appears to you! Moloch!

Stop waiting: you are a waste of human brain: start using your body, maybe you can have a chance.

Best regards and I hope you pay soon for your sins (as always).


Best regards.

Christians have the most amusing way of saying, "fuck you"
1065  Other / Off-topic / Re: Poll: Which religion is the best religion? on: May 17, 2016, 10:49:26 PM
Better to die for cherished Christian mumbo jumbo and go to Heaven, than die without it and lose eternal life.

But, what if you're wrong?

What if the Muslims chose the correct religion?
1066  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 17, 2016, 10:34:12 PM

You might think that you can deny Christ for a little while, but when He wakes you up in the resurrection, you won't have strength to deny Him any longer.

When is that going to happen?

People have been claiming their zombie jesus will come back for 2000 years... still waiting...

1067  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 17, 2016, 05:37:02 PM
1068  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 17, 2016, 06:37:01 AM
Moloch, if you are black, you have a head start.





Disclaimer: What happens at the Bohemian Grove, stays at the Bohemian Grove
1069  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Black Satanist Running for Senate in California on: May 17, 2016, 05:42:34 AM
Moloch you just are playing with words  Smiley Take a look : http://www.churchofsatan.com/

You are welcome in my country to see what the "black magic" can do.

Also you speak only BS! ( sorry to say that)

They are praying to lucifer ( but you said that they don't believe in any gods )
You can easily become a satanist ( because as you said, satanists don't believe in satan=lucifer) uhh but they have "church"

Do you speak about nonsense? just take a look to your logic..

I saw that  when someone says something you also become aggressive. Why?

I am simply stating the facts... and I am only interested in the facts, not some sob story... that is not a fact, but opinion

LaVeyan Satanists, like the church of Satan, do not believe Satan is an actual god/angel/demon... Same goes with Lucifer... Same goes with God, Jehovah, Yahweh, Jesus, Allah, Zeus, Aphrodite, Thor, Ra, Horus, Anubis, Isis, Osiris, etc...

They do not believe in fairy tales, and do not worship them... it's that simple

Please do a tiny bit of research before propagating misinformation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaVeyan_Satanism

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The religion is atheistic and materialist, rejecting the existence of supernatural beings, body-soul dualism, and life after death. Practitioners do not believe that the character of Satan literally exists and do not worship him. Instead, Satan is viewed as a positive archetype who represents pride, carnality, and enlightenment, and of a cosmos which Satanists perceive to be motivated by a "dark evolutionary force of entropy that permeates all of nature and provides the drive for survival and propagation inherent in all living things". He also serves as a projection of an individual's highest personal potential. Moreover, Satan is embraced as a symbol of defiance against the Abrahamic faiths which LaVey criticized for what he saw as the suppression of humanity's natural instincts.
First; my God is not wiki (maybe for you) I tell you what i've seen in my country not what  wiki says..

Second: "LaVey criticized for what he saw as the suppression of humanity's natural instincts.'" how do you argue this?

Third; do you think the humans are animals? or whats more important? the natural instincts or rationality, logic, conscience, feelings/sentiments ?

Fourth: which are the natural instincts? list them .

First, you have not said anything about what you see in your country... you said
You are welcome in my country to see what the "black magic" can do.

You have not even said which country, much less defined what you mean by "black magic", or given any details... magic of any kind, by definition, does not exist... praying to Satan does exactly as much good as praying to Allah or Yahweh... zero, zip, zilch... nada... nothing... prayer does nothing, no matter who you pray to

On the other hand, voodoo has more to do with science, paralysis, and hypnosis than magic... it's not real either... it's a trick

Spirit possession however is totally real... not... come on man... really?  It's a shame spirits only possess people in your country... the ones in my country must be nicer... nobody gets possessed around here... coincidence?

In some countries, spirit possession is like speaking in tongues in America... it's not real either... it's people pretending... it's fake

Faith healing is also fake... faith healers are con artists


Secondly, I'm not a Satanist (once again), so don't ask me questions about LaVey... I don't really care... I only wanted to point out that they do not worship Satan

Yes humans are animals... that has been proven with science if it was not intuitively obvious...

Rationality/logic is more important than animal instincts... this is why we have laws... people are by nature both aggressive and greedy... you need laws against assault, murder, stealing, etc... not because god said so, but because common sense says so
1070  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Black Satanist Running for Senate in California on: May 17, 2016, 03:17:56 AM
Moloch, please do not be deceived.

Satanist do not believe in Satan, they believe in Lucifer. The spirit of light who rules the world and whom Jesus is trying to compete with... blah, blah, blah.

LUCIFER IS THE SAME PERSON AS SATAN!!


Google John Todd.

He was born a satanist into the illuminati family line. He didn't know he was worshipping satan for the first 20-something years of his life, he had always thought that Lucifer was God, Jesus was an imposter and christianity was a joke.

Then he came to Jesus, casted out all the demons that was inside him as a result of satanic rituals and inheritance, was set free and went around churches telling all he knew. I think he died some years back.


And you will learn a lot by searching for the name Svali on Google... she was also born a satanist and she came to Christ.

YOU WILL UNDERSTAND BETTER THE LIES THE OCCULT HAS TAUGHT YOU.


These two christians were once satanist and they have one or two things to share with you, if you will read their story.

Please know that it is possible to be free from the occult... do not believe otherwise.
Jesus can and will set you free if you believe in Him. He cares and you do not have to kill anything to prove your loyalty to Him... unlike the occult.

1) I am not a Satanist
B) Satanists do not worship Satan or Lucifer... they don't worship any gods, demons, or any such imaginary creatures
iii) I have no interest in christianity... I've been there, done that... I've read the book... it's wrong... definitely wrong... 100% wrong... zero doubt... it's wrong

There is no sob story that could get me to believe in such nonsense... it's stupid, and I cannot fathom how so many people blindly believe this bullshit without bothering to think about it for two minutes
Moloch you just are playing with words  Smiley Take a look : http://www.churchofsatan.com/

You are welcome in my country to see what the "black magic" can do.

Also you speak only BS! ( sorry to say that)

They are praying to lucifer ( but you said that they don't believe in any gods )
You can easily become a satanist ( because as you said, satanists don't believe in satan=lucifer) uhh but they have "church"

Do you speak about nonsense? just take a look to your logic..

I saw that  when someone says something you also become aggressive. Why?

I am simply stating the facts... and I am only interested in the facts, not some sob story... that is not a fact, but opinion

LaVeyan Satanists, like the church of Satan, do not believe Satan is an actual god/angel/demon... Same goes with Lucifer... Same goes with God, Jehovah, Yahweh, Jesus, Allah, Zeus, Aphrodite, Thor, Ra, Horus, Anubis, Isis, Osiris, etc...

They do not believe in fairy tales, and do not worship them... it's that simple

Please do a tiny bit of research before propagating misinformation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaVeyan_Satanism

Quote
The religion is atheistic and materialist, rejecting the existence of supernatural beings, body-soul dualism, and life after death. Practitioners do not believe that the character of Satan literally exists and do not worship him. Instead, Satan is viewed as a positive archetype who represents pride, carnality, and enlightenment, and of a cosmos which Satanists perceive to be motivated by a "dark evolutionary force of entropy that permeates all of nature and provides the drive for survival and propagation inherent in all living things". He also serves as a projection of an individual's highest personal potential. Moreover, Satan is embraced as a symbol of defiance against the Abrahamic faiths which LaVey criticized for what he saw as the suppression of humanity's natural instincts.

Feel free to read the basic tenets of Satanism:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaVeyan_Satanism#Basic_tenets

You assume way too much when you think the name has anything to do with their beliefs... they chose the name to scare people like you, that's all
1071  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why am I an atheist on: May 16, 2016, 11:07:41 PM
1072  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Black Satanist Running for Senate in California on: May 16, 2016, 04:27:53 PM
Moloch, please do not be deceived.

Satanist do not believe in Satan, they believe in Lucifer. The spirit of light who rules the world and whom Jesus is trying to compete with... blah, blah, blah.

LUCIFER IS THE SAME PERSON AS SATAN!!


Google John Todd.

He was born a satanist into the illuminati family line. He didn't know he was worshipping satan for the first 20-something years of his life, he had always thought that Lucifer was God, Jesus was an imposter and christianity was a joke.

Then he came to Jesus, casted out all the demons that was inside him as a result of satanic rituals and inheritance, was set free and went around churches telling all he knew. I think he died some years back.


And you will learn a lot by searching for the name Svali on Google... she was also born a satanist and she came to Christ.

YOU WILL UNDERSTAND BETTER THE LIES THE OCCULT HAS TAUGHT YOU.


These two christians were once satanist and they have one or two things to share with you, if you will read their story.

Please know that it is possible to be free from the occult... do not believe otherwise.
Jesus can and will set you free if you believe in Him. He cares and you do not have to kill anything to prove your loyalty to Him... unlike the occult.

1) I am not a Satanist
B) Satanists do not worship Satan or Lucifer... they don't worship any gods, demons, or any such imaginary creatures
iii) I have no interest in christianity... I've been there, done that... I've read the book... it's wrong... definitely wrong... 100% wrong... zero doubt... it's wrong

There is no sob story that could get me to believe in such nonsense... it's stupid, and I cannot fathom how so many people blindly believe this bullshit without bothering to think about it for two minutes
1073  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POLL] Who would you vote for in the American Presidential Election in 2016? on: May 15, 2016, 06:42:49 AM
If the choice is Chump vs Shillary...

I will once again, refuse to choose the lesser of two evils
1074  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Black Satanist Running for Senate in California on: May 15, 2016, 06:32:35 AM
I don't have a good opinion about these satanists. They give bad publicity for all the non-Christian denominations, including atheists, Hindus, and Buddhists. And most of the Satanists seems to be mentally challenged people. An example here:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3125972/Face-face-cannibal-feasted-human-flesh-sold-meat-pies-interview-Brazilian-teacher-sick-Satanic-cult-wife-mistress-fed-remains-one-mother-toddler-daughter.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1056029/Satan-worshippers-kill-eat-Russian-teenagers-stabbing-666-times.html


I suppose that's the difference between Satanists and Satan Worshipers...

Satan Worshipers, actually worship some imaginary angel named Satan, and do crazy shit

Satanists will never say, "Satan made me do it", because they do not believe Satan is real... at best Satan is a metaphor (not for evil, but for skepticism and challenging the status-quo... in the bible, Ha-Satan is not evil, he is simply "the accuser")




This is a really stupid Satan, because those wings will not support his weight.  He will have a lift to drag ratio of about 1:666.  Of course that can be overcome with power, but I have heard he's pretty much lacking in power to rise up.  

Is Satan cliff-diving in this photo?... the caption on Wikipedia reads:
Quote
Illustration of Satan as depicted in John Milton's Paradise Lost by Darodes, c. 1868. This engraving depicts Satan's fall into Hate

Not sure why "Hate" is capitalized... is that Earth?  It kinda looks like Earth to me...


Note: I am partial to Milton's Paradise Lost... he mentions my name a few times:
Quote
First Moloch, horrid king besmeared with blood
Of human sacrifice, and parents tears,
Though for the noise of drums and timbrels loud
Their children’s cries unheard, that past through fire
To his grim idol. Him the Ammonite
Worshipped in Rabba and her watery plain,
In Argob and in Basan, to the stream
Of utmost Arnon...
1075  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Black Satanist Running for Senate in California on: May 14, 2016, 04:28:30 PM
I don't have a good opinion about these satanists. They give bad publicity for all the non-Christian denominations, including atheists, Hindus, and Buddhists. And most of the Satanists seems to be mentally challenged people. An example here:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3125972/Face-face-cannibal-feasted-human-flesh-sold-meat-pies-interview-Brazilian-teacher-sick-Satanic-cult-wife-mistress-fed-remains-one-mother-toddler-daughter.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1056029/Satan-worshippers-kill-eat-Russian-teenagers-stabbing-666-times.html


I suppose that's the difference between Satanists and Satan Worshipers...

Satan Worshipers, actually worship some imaginary angel named Satan, and do crazy shit

Satanists will never say, "Satan made me do it", because they do not believe Satan is real... at best Satan is a metaphor (not for evil, but for skepticism and challenging the status-quo... in the bible, Ha-Satan is not evil, he is simply "the accuser")

1076  Other / Off-topic / Re: Poll: Which religion is the best religion? on: May 14, 2016, 04:21:20 PM
I choose islam, and please don't judge the Islam without you learn it.

You picked Islam because you were born into it.
Are you sure? Where do you know that i was born as moslem?

To believe in this bullshit voluntarily would require an IQ of 70 or below.  I'm assuming your IQ is slightly above that since you can express yourself
in a foreign language.

Your religion is particularly fucked up because you guys kill people for leaving your religion, you kill gays, you kill atheists, you kill your fellow
countrymen for believing something else, or you kill people for drawing a cartoon of a 6th century pedophile.

You either were born into Islam and are stuck with it or you have lost your mind, or both.

To be fair, Christianity was the same way until 100 years ago... killing gays, atheists, american indians, witches, blacks, etc...

It is solely due to Secular morality that these murders have ceased

secular morality? what disillusion! you are a child? Look around you! Which one? ancient greek or roman?

Specifically, USA... USA is a secular nation... with secular laws

America is not built upon religion, but upon separation of church and state

The first sentence of the first amendment to the constitution (commonly known as the bill of rights) is:
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion

Christians burned witches, until secular Americans stopped them, and made it illegal

Christians enslaved black people, until secular Americans stopped them, and made it illegal

Christians murdered and discriminated against homosexuals, until secular Americans stopped them, and made it illegal

Shall I continue, or do you get the point?
1077  Other / Off-topic / Re: Poll: Which religion is the best religion? on: May 14, 2016, 04:16:52 PM
You forgot to add orthodox chrisitanity in your pool.
Did you forgot about russians,serbs,bulgarians,romanians,greeks,armenians? Angry

I assume that falls under one of the 3 categories of Christianity that I listed?

Is that not Catholic?  Then choose Christian - Other
LoL  Do you speak about religions but you never heard about The Great Schism
"Is that not Catholic?  Then choose Christian - Other" LoooooL


There are approximately 41,000 Christian denominations... I can't exactly list them all
LoL You know nothing about Christianity or other religions. Which is your source of inspiration?  youtube? facebook? wiki?

Well... that's what everyone on the internet says, specifically the CSGC at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary

https://theway21stcentury.wordpress.com/2012/11/23/how-many-christian-denominations-worldwide/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominations

http://www.philvaz.com/apologetics/the_facts_and_stats_on_33000_denominations

http://christianity.about.com/od/denominations/p/christiantoday.htm

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Number of Christian Denominations:

According to the Center for the Study of Global Christianity (CSGC) at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, there are approximately 41,000 Christian denominations and organizations in the world.

This statistic takes into consideration cultural distinctions of denominations in different countries, so there is overlapping of many denominations.
Center for the Study of Global Christianity (2011)



What difference does it make if there are 10 denominations or 10,000?

If the bible was written by god, there would only be 1 denomination... there would not be 10,000+ different ways to interpret god's message
1078  Other / Off-topic / Re: Poll: Which religion is the best religion? on: May 14, 2016, 07:54:33 AM
You forgot to add orthodox chrisitanity in your pool.
Did you forgot about russians,serbs,bulgarians,romanians,greeks,armenians? Angry

I assume that falls under one of the 3 categories of Christianity that I listed?

Is that not Catholic?  Then choose Christian - Other
LoL  Do you speak about religions but you never heard about The Great Schism
"Is that not Catholic?  Then choose Christian - Other" LoooooL


There are approximately 41,000 Christian denominations... I can't exactly list them all
1079  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Black Satanist Running for Senate in California on: May 14, 2016, 07:46:48 AM
I still say that I'm not the judge of which followers actually believe their religious jargon or not

If they claim to be Satanist... they are...

Same thing goes for Christians... it's exactly the same concept

Mormons claim to be Christians... so viola... they are Christians...

Nevermind the fact that they claim Jesus is a space-alien from the planet Kolob, who has physical sex with the "virgin" mary... or that they believe Jesus returned to earth in America, to write a book on golden plates... which Joseph Smith translated using the help of a magic hat and a magic rock...

Mormons are Christians because they claim to be... (though, similar to your claim, many Christians do not accept them as part of their club)


Catholics don't believe in hell, Protestants do

Catholics worship the virgin Mary and hundreds of "saints", Protestants don't give 2 fucks about Mary or saints


Muslims are more similar to The Satanic Temple... they claim to be an updated form of Christianity (though they don't claim to be Christians themselves)


There are approximately 41,000 Christian denominations, and each of them claim to be the one and only true version of Christianity
1080  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Black Satanist Running for Senate in California on: May 13, 2016, 07:50:22 PM
You say, "They have absolutely nothing to do with LaVeyan Satanism"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Satanic_Temple#Criticism_of_LaVeyan_Satanism
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Leader Lucien Greaves has described the Temple as being a progressive and updated version of LaVey's Satanism

Read a damn article man!  Educate yourself!
I can describe my arse as smelling like lavender but that doesn't make it so. Read the "Satanic" Temple's tenuous tenets and compare it to the Satanic Bible and tell me what, if anything, the two have in common. That's why the Wikipedia article starts with "Not to be confused with Church of Satan."

Fair point... there are definitely differences between several different groups all calling themselves Satanists

You have
1) People who actually worship some imaginary angel named Satan
2) LaVeyan Satanists
3) Satanic Temple Satanists

In a similar fashion you have:
1) Catholic Christians
2) Protestant Christians
3) Mormon Christians

You also have the no-true-scotsman fallacy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

If they claim to be an updated form of LaVeyan Satanism, and call themselves Satanists... ...

I have not been to either of their temples, so I don't know how the two really compare

I suppose you could say it's more like Islam/Mormon/WBC vs Christianity?... similarish, but differentish?

Or, are you saying its simply a fake/satirical/proxy religion, unlike LaVeyan Satanism?
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