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1261  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Better investement right now, bitcoins or Altcoins. on: August 08, 2017, 04:59:42 AM
Invest in some good altcoin beacuse their rise could be manifolds in short time . While always divide your your investment in multiple coins . As it's said do not put all your eggs in one basket so invest some in BTC and other coins so that you can benefit of couple of coins price rises manifolds amongst them .

For short-term investments then altcoin is one good option, because altcoin prices are very easy to move. Usually dev will do the pump if the altcoin market is appropriate. So we must have good patience to be able to take advantage of all the possibilities that occur. Buy altcoin at a cheap price and then sell it at a high price.
Even altcoins are good for trading, I do hear many traders are getting trapped by sudden volatility. So, it will be always better to choose highly established altcoins for trading.

But for both trading and investments, bitcoin must be the right choice. These trading and investment plans can be short term and long term. As long as you are trading with bitcoins, your capital will be safer and you can get better profits also in very short period of time itself.
1262  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Fixed income with BTC trading? on: August 08, 2017, 04:41:11 AM

Theres no really constant earnings on daily basis on making tradings and as you said we wont really know on how much we would able to make on such trade and we wont still know if we would make profits or make loses on that one. Its really hard to make profits if you dont really know how to trade on Bitcoin knowing that its price is really unstable. It do go on random ways which is really a tough job.

Of course, if we are familiar with trading it is the same as gambling that you may also lost. So there is no fixed income since your gain is always variable. It depends on market valuation or the price being traded.
What's happening with bitcoin is purely based on the Market variations. Just because of the same we cannot make a fixed income. Based on the buying and selling difference and the volume invested gives a higher or lower profit. Another thing is that gambling is lot different, based on the luck gambling provides profit whereas with trading skills and knowledge is the one that helps in making profit.

No please don't mention gambling for bitcoin earnings. It's totally a loss at the beginning. Fixed income is impossible as you said, but if you learnt how to trade altcoins on exchanges, regular bitcoin income is highly possible, which I'm also trying to do now. Each altcoin has day high and day low values, if we can consider the efficient points to start and stop trade, we can get good profits from this altcoin trade.
Get fixed income from gambling is a lie. Even though it's skill-based games, we will only lose in the end. Gambling is not a way how to earn stable income or fixed income.
What happened to you ? We are discussing about trading here but you are completely talking about gambling. But I can understand it happens when you are being a hard core gambler and when you are switching from gambling section just before that post.

Both from gambling and trading, fixed income is not at all possible. Only sometimes a big profit maybe possible from trading and from skill-based gambling too. Compared to gambling, trading must be a right way to earn but it cannot be fixed nor stable.
1263  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you Panic? on: August 07, 2017, 11:58:10 PM
For me, I don't panic again because most times decision made in that scenario is always a faulty one. At first, I a filled with so much uncertainty and a lot of thinking which led to panics but now, all I do is just to ask myself whether there is an urgent need to be met as a result of the sale. If its yes, I sell and if its no, I hold no matter how low or how high price is at the time and the reason for that is because at the end of the day I want to be fully sure that I had no other choice than to sell.
Panic? I don't define panic to myself. Trading has its ways to increase if you sell your btc with its rate but no matter what cases it prevail, that's normal for in nothing is permanent and it remains a constant change. A change that will surely make you take a serious action when trading is too slow or has a low value. Surprisingly when you have patience with you all the time.
that is very good because those people who come in panic then they find it hard to make money and most of the time they even lose their own money.
Yes panic will collapse all the trading plans as trading requires lots of on the spot decisions. So, trading should be done without getting failed with emotions other wise we cannot expect any profit making chances from trading. When a trader is doing without any emotion failures then we can follow his strategies which will be more than enough to get profits consistently.
1264  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happens if we die? on: August 07, 2017, 11:45:53 PM
It would be nice before all that happened better than now teach the children, our wives.
So they know how to take money from bitcoin.
In order to prevent the loss of money is wasted.
It is not as easy as you think, you could teach them how to do it, but there is not a guarantee they remember it and even if they do how are you going to communicate your private key or your seed, if you do not then the money is lost and if you do then they could as easily spend the money since they have the keys to spend it.
Actually, I’m not dying yet, and I don’t pray I do so. We all hope to live long right? OK. But, to answer the question “what happens if you die”, well, your Bitcoin continues with its journey. But, if it happens that your children has access to it, then they can start making use of it.
1265  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Another opportunity to buy Bitcoin at Cheap price on: August 07, 2017, 11:27:56 PM
When we are getting paid in less number of bitcoin it will be difficult to have big number of bitcoin for future purposes. Just holding whatever amount of bitcoins we do get must be the right option in front of us.
To hold bitcoins for decades I guess less than one bitcoin also will be more than enough as in future bitcoin may value in millions so for an average man, after decades less than one bitcoin also will be more than enough to lead a higher life style. I guess for those small amount of bitcoins, today's price also must be a cheaper prices to buy and hold.
1266  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How many ways are there to earn bitcoins? on: August 07, 2017, 11:04:10 PM
Ways:

- performing tasks on websites and forums,
- interest paid%
- mining (ATLCOIN)
- grants and "tips"
- trade
- gambling

Investing and trading is the best way to earn, as long as we know how to choose a project that will likely to get successful and have patience on holding the ats for trading.
Bitcoin mining: quite a good way to earn good amount of bitcoin. Faucet: not a good option, don't even waste your time. PTC (paid to click): don't even think of this, it will take forever to withdraw your earnings. Bitcointalk Signature Campaign: one of the best options. Writing for blogs/news sites: really a good option, if you can be getting this, you'll be making a lot of earnings. Play Games Online: I haven't tried this before, so I don't know how it works. Bitcoin Trading: it's a very good option if you understand the basics of trading online. Bitcoin Lending: a good option during a pump. For example, I moved $50 to my Xapo wallet, and today it's already $60. Which means if I borrowed it, I'm getting $10. Gambling: I'm not into gambling stuffs. But you're likely to hit a jackpot. Bitcoin Affiliate jobs: I don't know how it works. I don't have time to convince people to click links.
1267  Economy / Economics / Re: lest we forget, Bitcoin is a blessing. on: August 07, 2017, 10:44:56 PM
Bitcoin is not a blessed panacea. Love - too strong a word for crypto currency))
In a way, I have to admit it’s kind of a blessing to people, including me. Bitcoin has done a lot for me, and I was able to achieve some great things with it, and I’m okay with it. So it’s quite a blessing that we can get only from our beloved people like parents or from God.
1268  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your thoughts for Bitcoin in 2017? on: August 07, 2017, 08:52:33 PM
Ongoing year is one of the most important year in the history of entire digital currency as well the bitcoin. As the splitting has taken place by the right time expected, nothing big has affected the growth. So possibly a price pumping can be expected before the month end. The price might reach as high as $4000 by the year end and the possibility can be confirmed once after few weeks from now.
I also see this year most important for bitcoin because after 1st August people are very much impressing by bitcoin earning and most of people are ready to invest in bitcoin and it is expected from the market behavior that at the end of this year bitcoin will cover the market completely and there will be no any other cryptocurrency to compete bitcoin. Price of bitcoin is also expected $5000 for one btc in 2017.
1269  Economy / Economics / Re: lest we forget, Bitcoin is a blessing. on: August 07, 2017, 08:32:45 PM
I just bought BTC  and 6 ETH

Do you think it's good to invest in Viberate ICO?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2029450.0

Here is bitcointalk thread
I would prefer you suggesting to not to invest in ICO. We can see many more upcoming ICO and also currently many are ON. Many developers don't think about the future of the coin, but just make a great opportunity to earn from just the ICO. It is not a good way to invest, instead you can start investing in trading to make some good profit.
1270  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin: At Only $500 on: August 07, 2017, 08:06:27 PM
Bitcoin is now known as the digital currency that keeps on growing fast and jumping by leaps and bounds. So far, the return for investment (ROI) with Bitcoin is very, very positive..that is compared to other investment vehicles like stocks, bonds, forex, derivatives, commodities, gold, oil, etc.

Now this is a very theoretical question: What if one day Bitcoin would crash and within days it would go back to its $500 level...would you still support Bitcoin and HODL it or would you decide that it is becoming worthless and also join the sell market?

I would be selecting the best answer for this question...so come on and enjoy punching the keyboard!
I would surely purchase more and more bitcoins if the price goes down to 500$. I missed a chance to have more profit by purchasing bitcoins in the past. I regret now. If the price really goes below up to 500$ then i will purchase bitcoin in a large amount and then i will surely wait a lot until the price again comes to level.
1271  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin spending on: August 07, 2017, 06:00:04 PM
Hello,

I’ve made some nice amount of BTC and am looking for a quick and secure way to trade and use it, mostly in the UK.

Any ideas?

How much bitcoins have you earned? If you have earned a low amount bitcoins then most of them will be lost in the transaction fees. If you have a good amount of bitcoins then you can start increasing it by trading, investing, etc(I won't prefer gambling). You can simply start trading on any exchanges by just signing up and making a bitcoin deposit.
1272  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you manage ur emotions? on: August 07, 2017, 03:01:38 PM
It means you have not developed your skills to trade professionally and you are not putting trading money management principle in place. Most professional traders has eliminate emotions by treating loses during trading as part of trade and their do trade with by putting strong principle on the table.
Trading professionally simply means that a trader have a well defined trading plan and which he follows religiously, more or less like trading mechanically except that he is able to react to different market conditions, understanding the place for adjustment from time to time. 
And they can understand the mentality of trader on market, the different beween crypto market and other market as Forex or Stock is the price of crypto most depending mentality of trader, so if you can understand them, you can "control" the price as Whales and earning good profit every day.

the thing also to look at cryptocurrency trading is that it is not really regulated at the moment so insider trading might happen. Hence, the risk will be there but as of the moment, we can really trade based on analyzing traders mind and potential shark next moves.
Due to wild manipulations happening with inside people, drastic volatility is happening with all crypto markets which is the prime reason for many traders to fail with their emotion control.

Staying away from trading cannot be a solution here because we need to trade even crypto market is unregulated one. To manage our emotions we must risk is in a calculated way. When we will be having predetermined plans for the risk levels then we can manage our emotions effectively.
1273  Other / Off-topic / Re: What's your way of spreading Bitcoin knowledge? on: August 07, 2017, 08:17:54 AM
Personally, if I'm in a coffee shop or any store with some people, I pull out my wallet and subtly show them my Xapo debit card. Then they get curious on what kind of card is that since it doesnt look like the usual Mastercard or creditcard. Then I explain it from there on.

What's your way of spreading Bitcoin knowledge? Smiley
I usually  start my trading and posting when i am free with some people around. They see some exciting thing so they usually ask for me about it and then i start giving them some knowledge. I also try to spread as much as possible knowledge via blog. It is good for the future of bitcoin.
1274  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in the moon!!! on: August 06, 2017, 08:46:37 PM
And now it is heading back to $1800  Smiley

Lol. I think it would be like that in a downward trend until after aug 1st where all anxieties will be put to rest. I don't mind getting back that low though, i've earned quite a lot the past week when it did go down that amount then shot back up.
Quite smart you are! You must have been holding bitcoins when the prices were low. I believe that August 1st is going to be a great step in the progress of bitcoins. Bitcoins will not come down at any cost in the ending weeks of August. Those who are panicking must have patient and believe in bitcoins.
As you mentioned that August can lead you to best way so you are right because everyone know that there will be real action like movie ending in real life. So I would say that if I get a lot of bitcoin right now. So tomorrow I will enjoy to sell these bitcoins in high prices so I would like to say go for bitcoin today because tomorrow the prices of bitcoin going to reach 5000 USD also.
1275  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you think? on: August 06, 2017, 08:26:57 PM
I do believe that crypto currency is for those people who wish to have financial freedom.
Based in my observation, Bitcoins became a big break for poor people to become rich.
Most of them are those who were literate in the computer language.
Next thing, the rich people would become curious on how those coins set people free from the bondage of poverty.
They would be amazed and they would try to engage in Bitcoins, as a leading crypto in the coin market today.
Bitcoin and all other cryptocurrency are like a blessing for poor people to become rich. Bitcoin offers many ways to earn a good living, but i do not think most of the rich people would bother about bitcoin. They would use it to save some of their money in the form of digital currency but i do not think they might be practicing practices like trading, mining, etc. They would always bother about their primary business.
1276  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What to do with cash from sales on: August 06, 2017, 02:08:58 PM
Hi guys, what do you guys normally do with the monies? keep it in exchange for future purchases or transfer it to your bank account.

And if the latter do you then put it in the fixed deposits for stable interest rates?

Do you mean the profit from cryptocurrency ? Many people here might be saving that profit in the form of bitcoin itself, because bitcoin is unique in itself. It is more profitable then a Fixed deposit in any bank. We can anytime in cash bitcoins according to our needs, but i individually like to spent more and more coins and invest them so that i get a good daily profit.
1277  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why is BCH sometimes displayed as BCC? on: August 06, 2017, 08:14:38 AM
It surely has a big difference between BCH and BCC.
BCC is used for two coins
  • Bitconnect tokens
  • Bitcoin Cash

Many exchanges call Bitcoin Cash as BCC including yobit, and some minor exchanges call it BCH. Before you start a trade on this coin always remember to see it name first. small confusion can cause heavy loss.
Both BCC and BCH are used for Bitcoin Cash
1278  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When to leave the game? on: August 05, 2017, 05:55:42 PM
As you know that you need to stop and leave the game? How can you feel this moment. I almost always lose their money because they can't learn when to leave the game. I'm not sorry to lose. I have a lot of money not to lose, but I can't keep the winnings if I'm lucky.

You really can't say when exactly, because frankly when you start to win big numbers you get really excited and wanted more.
But I guess, I would leave when from a big number I have lost one or two more tries. I will not risk more that what I have won already.

That is right, gambling is so tricky. It gives fun and excitement to every player especially if they win the round and do not know how to stop. Some do not want to leave the game because they gain lot profit from it.
But for me, winning in just one time per day is good because I can use it to add my profit and to avoid the lose of money.
You need to be very careful with this line of thinking. It ultimately doesn't matter when you play your games when gambling. You can play all games in one go, or you can spread them out over many years. The result will be the same: The longer you play, the more you lose! Gambling is meant for fun and excitement, it's a way to turn your money into entertainment, just like going to a movie or playing a "normal" online-game.

It is not just for fun, we are just saying that it is just for fun when we are losing, we are just convincing ourselves so that we could not think too much of the loses that we do have on gambling. But if you really want to make some profits, then quit in an instant as soon as you know that you have made enough, because continuing on betting the profits that you have will just lead you to something you can't even imagine.
Actually if you notice that how you have lose then you will never do that mistake in your life once again at that point so in my point of view we should learn from our mistakes because this is the great step to learn about life. There is win and loss. If everybody winning continuously then nobody will except that game once again and will never face a problems and salutation in daily life.
1279  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: In Gambling, Money is not everything on: August 04, 2017, 08:22:42 PM
Perhaps for those who enjoy having fun with gambling will have such an assumption, money isn't everything. But for me, money very valuable. So, if i had been won, i would have left casino immediately.
good point mate, if you already win you should go and leave the casino or the house at once since its all about earnings and I'm sure its really much happier if you got some good winnings, money controls inside your gambling activity so better to make sure that you have good discipline in order
to take advantage.
It is all about mind that what type of mind you are having because because many people are here if they win they don't stop playing until they lose all the money once again so in my opinion you should make a limit. If you play in a limit then you will have a good score and you will have self-control so I guess you will have a good result if you are having limit.
1280  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why should people use Bitcoin? on: August 03, 2017, 08:16:49 PM
Because bitcoin has many advantages such as where we send money quickly, bitcoin is not the original money but can be used as the original money without the process of sending a difficult care in the bank.
So bitcoin can do all we need.
Bitcoins have the potential to serve as sound money and it is already doing so. The only difference between bitcoins and conventional money is the difference of physical existence; else bitcoins are far better than the paper money. They are easy to transfer; decentralized nature rules out the involvement of third party in the transactions and at the end of the day, it is the best investment too. In short, bitcoins have dual nature.
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