Ah - I suppose these could be made, but theres two issues:
1) cost will be about 30% higher (33% more wire, connector, and weight)
2) I really need a 100MOQ to create new cables. If anyone is interested in putting some deposit on at least 50 i could have them made, but from what ive seen the great majority of equipment is powered by PCIe.

why buy someone else's IP?

The story given by asicminer was that the current gen of chips effectively came in at half of expectations, but for a reason they identified - presumably the next gen will be the same architecture but at the previously-promised ~0.4w/GH

again though - theres zero explanation of what fees and when. There's nothing stopping them from saying that fees are $5/TH/day, starting next week. It would make the cloudmining contract worthless within the next 2-3 months, and you would have no option but to forfeit your hashrate and accept major loss because their fees are equal to $0.30/kwh.

There is a legitimate market for cloudmining, but it can't be based solely on forum reviews and a fancy website. Proof that they own machines, are actually hashing to an address that is the source of dividend payments, photos of the equipment/location - all these would help demonstrate that this is more than an obvious ponzi scheme ("buy this, we'll give you THIS slowly over several months/years, there's zero strings attached") and that the people running this at least have hardware.

----> and, even then, there is the risk that things become unprofitable. zero fees cannot exist forever - if they start taking losses they will implement fees or dissappear with the equipment.

still looking

I have no idea what about the above statement makes cloudminer.io any less likely to be a ponzi scheme. There are only two realistic scenarios:

1) these guys are taking massive losses in the first year because they do not charge any fees. 1BTC invested and at least 90% of that cost goes directly into the cost of hardware. There will have about a 1.1BTC payout in the first year, and these guys will take a $200+ loss because there are no fees. The next year the investor would get 0.4BTC (approx) and these guys are still down another $200+. They would be bleeding money. That leads to the second scenario

2) maintenance costs will be implemented suddenly and unexpectedly. There is no money being made if they actually run hardware with no costs to cover power expenses. They will undoubtedly implement fees sooner than later. will that be $50/TH/month or $200/TH/month? Its not even hinted at. When these fees are implemented - your only options will be to pay them or surrender your hashrate to them.

OPTION 3) Give me $100 today, and I'll give you $1 every day for 110 days. Thats a 10% return in just over 3 months!
20 people sign up in the first day - I have $2000 on hand. I pay out regularly, $1/person/day for several weeks. after 100 days I have paid out all the dollars, but now have 50 more people signed up because the first guys are reporting that they got full payment back. Thats $5000 in my pocket, enough to continue the charade for another 2 months and pay back the second group on 50 people over 90% of what tey invested - and it seems like this is totally legit, so more people sign up.  Soon I have $50,000 in my pocket, but will have to pay out over $80,000 in debt over the next 100 days. I delete my website and disappear.

anyone running these in series or sharing radiators? I am wondering if I could run 3 C1 units on a loop consiting of 2 pumps and 2 radiators. This would provide redundancy in case of failure and it seems that 1 radiator is more than sufficient per C1

why is it difficult to look at a guide for the product to see the reccomended PSU wattage (Generally a 650W+ is recommended for an antminer S3+)? Its pretty common sense on how to wire up a few PCIe cables and understand that a GOLD/PLATINUM ATX supply with a single 12V rail and sufficient wattage is required.

It makes no sense to buy a PSU (lets say a $60 Corsair CS650M) thats located in china, pay to ship it to your country (~$25), pay import costs ($10), and quite possibly not even receive a compatible power cable for your country with it. So now a PSU that costs $60 locally is received days later for $95+       why does that make any sense?

if you dont want to set up a powersupply, buy a complete solution miner like the S4 or the SP31

Plenty of cables still in stock- these are perfect for running sp20 units, which can demand over 250w per pcie cable

Not just a good thing - it should be mandatory. Even then, these forums have seen dozens of ponzi schemes and cut/run scams in the past year. One that sticks out was a guy that sold hosted miners (s1 I think) with photos of his room with 16+ units. After selling the hosted rights for most of them, be disappeared. Never came back.

Things that seem too good often are. Be cautious about paying 100% upfront for something you don't have visual proof of or control over. Just because you're getting trickle payments doesn't mean you'll still be getting them next week/month/year. It's pretty much the exact definition of a ponzi

Are there any pictures of the mine?

I find it hard to understand how this isn't an obvious ponzi scheme.

Hashrate is 1.1btc/th (-9% to vip users with referals), and even the most conservative estimates (5c/kwh, 0.5w/gh, zero overhead) indicates that there are at least $180/year in costs. A more realistic estimate (0.7w/gh, 7c/kwh, minimal overhead) put costs at over $365/year.

Unless fees are implemented out of the blue to recoup these costs, this makes no sense.

^because no fees and 1.1btc/th seems legit.... oh and a 5yr contract.

1th of equipment will use at MINIMUM 12kwh/day, or about $0.50/day if located in the cheapest power areas of Washington state with zero overhead. That's $180/year. More realistic variables are 2-4x that.

Beware the cloud ponzi

10ph is from spondoolies alone. Its likely bitmain had similar sales on the s4, and that knc/bitfury may both be incrementally adding to thier private mines also.

Nevertheless, it's safe to call this as a negative jump *party*

It's worth noting that this will increase your w/gh power draw

So about -0.35% unless 100PH was added right this minute. I'm pretty damn happy about this, considering most of my profitability calculations made 3-6 months ago were assuming 4-7% jumps at this point in time.

I think the next jump may be fairly big though with the influx of the black Friday deals by bitmain and spondoolies. it's likely that each company sold 5-10 PH during that sale

Because.... turban?

You could probably get a frequency code from the s3 thread that would apply to the s4.

My guess is 160-170mhz at 0.65-0.67v would achieve that

Seriously? 20w is maybe $2/month- definitely not breaking the bank, and looms pretty.

Most led power supplies do have a switch for the lights though

even so, its virtually impossible to see 15%+ jumps happen many more times without an increase in BTC value. Its infeasible for people to routinely add that much to thier farms without rapidly hitting thermal or power limits and needing to rely on cloudmining or find a dedicated location. I think we will see
+0.2% this increase
+10% next
+6% after
+ 2% after, followed by a few more small increases unless hardware prices or bitcoin value changes

DONT USE THAT>  "In no case the NA SRC7 may be used with fans, having more than 3 W power consumption."
The S3 fans are rated at 1A (12W) max draw.

I haven't yet gotten out a wattmeter, but I have 4 units stable at resistance of 2.05-2.15 kOhm, or about 0.74-0.77V. 193-212 MHz gives 93-112GH per unit