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1301  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 11, 2020, 12:45:10 PM
What's that havling everyone is talking about?
You need to send half of your bitcoins to my address.

I think ...

:-)

No no. Its been well established that after the halvening you have half as many coins as before.
1302  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 11, 2020, 12:43:11 PM
Nice feeling when it pumps...

https://www.bitcoinblockhalf.com site is down. Probably too many visitors...

Yeah what other halvening sites are there? I need one to watch. I remember last halvening one site had fireworks go off, that was fun.
1303  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 10, 2020, 03:55:19 AM

Registration date = December 15, 2013.

In other words, you have had 6.5 years to accumulate some corns.  

I bought my first bitcoin in early 2013 and I'm still buying now, so I like to get in at a good price too.

This buying is not accumulating for investment purposes though, it is savings. I am saving my money in Bitcoin, I used to save in fiat, but stopped doing that years ago. And in 20 years time, if I'm still working and the Bitcoin price is over a million, I will still be saving some of my pay in Bitcoin. Why, because I am "saving". It's really that simple.
1304  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 10, 2020, 12:41:43 AM
Last discount window before the halving folks. Get in now.
1305  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 06, 2020, 12:31:23 PM
The MACD has just flipped green on Bitcoin’s one week chart.

Last time this happened BTC rallied 1000% in 2017 and 300% in 2019.

Hmm, price at 100k. Yeah I guess I can manage that.
1306  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 15, 2020, 12:32:44 PM
Off topic, but what I am really fucking hating right now is Bitcoin's new found correlation with the traditional markets, annoying as all hell.
1307  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 28, 2020, 12:11:12 AM
Anyone know why the sudden drop?

Manipulators waiting for weekend thin trading perhaps?
1308  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 20, 2020, 11:28:19 AM
From my perspective, the lingering question is not the virus, but whether this causes non repairable shit in the legacy financial system. Something has been burning since September already when the repo market got sick. This had nothing to do with the virus.

So I am keeping an eye out for more sorrow (and related scare dumps) before I declare all this over.

Whether Bitcoin would dump as well in a renewed scare dump downwards: we will have to wait and see.

Oh the legacy is  really fucked alright. Has been since 2008 and to be more accurate since the tech bubble. Everything done by CBs and Govs has destroyed the system more and more. So, they have applied band-aid and band-aid solution one after another until we get issues like the ones we are having right now. And what are they doing to solve our current issues, more band-aids and very big ones at that. There is no light at the end of the tunnel for the legacy system, total collapse is its destination and the destruction of sound money is the vehicle it is using to travel there.

At least we have Bitcoin now. Bitcoin is like Noah's Ark those who are smart enough to get on it, will survive the legacy systems money flood, those who don't hop on, will be forever starving drowning slaves.

It's a sad world and I hate it.
1309  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 20, 2020, 11:01:09 AM

Dude, you are not getting it, do you?

It's not the fucking Ebola, yeah, and it may be even softer than the flu for most persons but:

1) Unlike the flu, no one is inmune
2) It is highly contagious... probably more than the flu.
3) Some of the very few people that have bad symptoms usually develop a very bad pneumonia.
4) Patients with a bad pneumonia usually need ventilators to have a chance to survive.
5) We don't have more than a few thousands ventilators and it is very hard to obtain more right now because every fucking country needs them and manufacturers are overwhelmed.
6) There is also a complete scarcity of masks and other personal protection items.. Which makes anyone going anywhere near an hospital or a doctor, for whatever reason, to have all the chances to be infected.

In Italy the number of people needing ventilators to survive have already exceeded the number of available ventilators. Which, btw, are also needed for some things other than this covid thingy. In Spain we are quickly reaching that critical ceiling in some regions like Madrid.

This is not about number of deaths but about the medical services being overwhelmed and unable to keep giving proper treatment to the patients that need it. So every effort it is being focused in slowing the spreading of the virus trying to maintain the figure of people needing ICU/ventilators below the number of available ones... until everyone have already been exposed to it... or a vaccine is ready.

Get it now?


Spot on. If this spread 10 times slowly there would be no panic at all, because the hospital system would be able to absorb the increased load. My concern with catching the virus is that I am one of the 15% that get hospitalized at a time when there are no ICU beds or free ventilators.

I am also very concerned for certain family members who are old and have health conditions, I would be concerned for them though even if the hospital system wasn't overwhelmed.

As far as asset prices and bitcoin in particular, I think this whole thing is extremely bullish long time. Which will be great for me of course, I was worried in the short term for a while, but not so much now as the situation has changed because CBs and Gov fiscal responses are getting to the point of preventing any further decrease.

I fear for the real economy though. The downturn in the real economy will be long and drawn out, the workers will be affected by this to a massive degree. They will not get free money or debts paid off, they may get their debt delayed for a bit, but that's it. The rich and large corporations are going to be massively wealthier after this, keep an eye on the wealth divide it will go ballistic. Sure we'll all be rich from our Bitcoin holdings, but a lot don't have any asset, only their labour.

This whole thing is going to destroy the remaining wealth of the 99%, and as I'm getting rich from Bitcoin, I won't be fucking forgetting those who won't be. the suffering is going to immense.
1310  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 19, 2020, 12:12:02 PM
Stock market falling, my currency going down (vs US), credit markets frozen, and Bitcoin going up. Not too bad.
1311  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - April 2013 on: March 18, 2020, 10:24:34 AM

Of course, I have hereby committed a common fallacy:  Using the dollar as the measure of Bitcoin’s value.  If we soon see the effects of rapid dollar inflation (as seems a real possibility), then Bitcoin may indeed soon hit $1,000,000, without gaining any purchase power—just because the dollar crashed, and a $100 bill now buys a loaf of bread (if that).  Hyperinflation could also quickly give us quadrillion-dollar Bitcoins, or whatever; but that would not mean much, if it may also signal the global breakdown of technological civilization, and thus, the loss of the Internet.

A moderate amount of dollar inflation is also built into the rise since 2013:  $50 in 2013 dollars would be worth significantly more today.  Not >100x more!


I am sure everyone will jump in here to tell me deflation is 'impossible'.  Well, I have heard that from many speculators for the last 30 years, and during that time deflationary trends have gotten steadily stronger.

The deflation can happen by a generalised default. If companies and individuals are already too indebted to take on any more loans on any terms, they will simply go bust. It will not matter how much 'money' is lent to the banking system, or how much 'money' wealthy ppl and businesses have. The only way this can be forestalled is by the money-printers (govt, banks and wealthy creditors) giving it gratis , including large scale debt relief/forgiveness. The mechanism for debt forgiveness is fraught with arguments about unfairness, and therefore very hard to impliment.

bingo, 1929 crash was the beginning of deflationary Great Depression, this looks much more like 1929 than 1987 or 2008 so far ... the only ways out are a grinding depression and systemic default of the currency (monetary reset like 1930's) or if they print enough to paper over all the defaults then the wealth divide will increase massively further still and economic stagnation will increase with the even more extreme misallocation of resources ... like Japanese for the last 30 years on steroids.

Completely different monetary system now to back in the great depression days. Printing enough to paper over it is exactly what they will do. The system is designed to make the poor poorer in the long-term, bitcoin is of course the opposite.
1312  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2020, 11:00:05 PM
Feeling bullish..

Thinking the stock market boys have ran out of bitcorns to sell now..

Dow doing worse than bitcoins now..

feeling bullish..

not a haiku..

I think you're right. While we may go lower, buying at these levels is a good buy
1313  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2020, 12:35:33 PM
Breaking news. The IMF just brought a fresh Trillion dollars to the money printer potluck dinner.  Smiley

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/16/imf-says-its-ready-to-mobilize-its-1-trillion-lending-capacity-to-fight-coronavirus.html


Quick hurry bears, post about the few dozen 84 year olds that died in some country today. Gotta keep the gloom up right.  Wink

All this money printing may not be getting an instant reaction but like the Halvening or any other major bullish event, it will push up the price once the fake outs are done.

This is not about the virus anymore. Hasn't been for at least a week. CBs have been making a fuse for the last 10 years and the virus just lit it. That is all.
1314  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2020, 12:19:58 PM
Soon we are going to have mass control of everyones money by CBs and banks. Bitcoin will be excluded.
1315  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2020, 08:34:13 AM
The FED literally has no dry powder left.

It has plenty, but not without consequences.

The financial markets crashing touch one of the twin pillars (asset values).

Further steps will scratch the other twin pillar: treasuries/the dollar.

This pillar is the linchpin. Watch it the coming months to see whether all will fall down or this will have been another one of those ‘once a decade’ buying opportunities.

I agree with Wekkel here. The FED have unlimited firepower, don't underestimate them. Also don't watch the equity markets for when the FED pulls the trigger. They couldn't care less about that at the moment. Their focus is on the credit markets, they must absolutely not have a continuing credit freeze, and I can assure you the have the ability to fight it.

They can buy a lot of debt, government, corporate, even individual. And if liquidity issues persists they will continue doing whatever it takes.



not infinite - this will cause next hyper inflation and usd gonna be rekt after. but true, before there will be a price dump - er its happening



Yes in the end it leads to hyperinflation.
1316  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2020, 08:32:32 AM
Honestly it looks like 3.5k is almost a sure thing now, lower high after lower high, the question now is do we see a lower low compared to January 2019 (3k)?
I tend to believe it is entirely possible. We will definitely see 6.5k again but probably not this year.

Even 1k-2k area is something we could see again. The good news is there will be another bubble in the future. Nothing better than Bitcoin to make 500%-1000% profits.

Honestly we could see a $24 BTC tomorrow, we could also see a $24k BTC tomorrow, and I tend to believe there's at least a 99% chance we will see something in between. The good news is the one thing we know for sure is that nobody actually knows what the future holds, so we can safely dismiss those who claim otherwise.

"Everybody is right given a long enough time frame." - me

I know what the future holds and that is expanding credit, therefore expanding money supply, and therefore expanding economy. Only way this doesn't happen is if we change how our monetary system operates. While there is a chance that will happen it is extremely improbable to the point that it that we can safely say it won't happen.
1317  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2020, 08:29:51 AM
Honestly it looks like 3.5k is almost a sure thing now, lower high after lower high, the question now is do we see a lower low compared to January 2019 (3k)?
I tend to believe it is entirely possible. We will definitely see 6.5k again but probably not this year.

Even 1k-2k area is something we could see again. The good news is there will be another bubble in the future. Nothing better than Bitcoin to make 500%-1000% profits.

Yeah could very well do. Long-term of course it doesn't matter, the virus will eventually peak and so will the panic. The FED will do more than it is doing creating a shitload of liquidity in the process. Once the weights on global demand are lifted, assets will go up again and this time harder than after 2008 due to the much large central bank money being printed.

Throughout history, every bust has been followed by a bigger boom, this one will be no different.
1318  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2020, 07:56:36 AM
The FED literally has no dry powder left.

It has plenty, but not without consequences.

The financial markets crashing touch one of the twin pillars (asset values).

Further steps will scratch the other twin pillar: treasuries/the dollar.

This pillar is the linchpin. Watch it the coming months to see whether all will fall down or this will have been another one of those ‘once a decade’ buying opportunities.

I agree with Wekkel here. The FED have unlimited firepower, don't underestimate them. Also don't watch the equity markets for when the FED pulls the trigger. They couldn't care less about that at the moment. Their focus is on the credit markets, they must absolutely not have a continuing credit freeze, and I can assure you the have the ability to fight it.

They can buy a lot of debt, government, corporate, even individual. And if liquidity issues persists they will continue doing whatever it takes.

1319  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2020, 07:40:01 AM
The bleeding begins again, sigh!

Mindrust. You will have another opportunity to enter again and it will probably be a lot less that at 4500. If you don't already have a re-entry plan now is the time to draw one up.
1320  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 13, 2020, 12:03:02 PM
This is the fucking titanic people.

which violin would you like to play sir? (madam?)

I'm heading to the bar.
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