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1301  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin and Gold Cannot Coexist, Says MicroStrategy CEO on: November 12, 2020, 09:42:24 AM
Only one thing is certain: Bitcoin, being not a precious metal, can't be used where gold can. Apart from that, Saylor is simply pumping his investment being the first CEO to use Bitcoin as a reserve asset. Let him do his shilling but don't believe in everything he says.
I can't argue with somebody who gives so little value to the immense industrial applications that gold has.
1302  Economy / Gambling / Re: Sportsbooks that aren’t paying out on Biden winning the US Presidential Election on: November 12, 2020, 09:26:21 AM
I'm not from the States but according to what it's slowly coming out this has been the most embarrassing US Election in history, even worse than Gore v. Bush 2000. I knew this could have been a contested election and I decided consciously not to bet on this event.
Not the Media but the people should elect the President. Even if Biden won correctly, Media attitude towards Donald Trump, being the US President, was and still is disgusting.
1303  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Multi bets vs single bets on: November 12, 2020, 09:09:08 AM
I would be rather curious to know how you guys bet and how you make use of singles. Do you really believe in minimizing risk when placing single bets? It's like going all-in, you basically flip a coin, either you win or you lose. If you like that, keep on playing. That's not for me. Wink

The risk is always there, you are right on that, but after following this thread for some time, I've come to the conclusion that multi bets are riskier than single ones. And it's not like, the more risky your bet, the higher multiplier you get, no. You are more likely to win a single bet with 1.9 odds, than a multi bet of 3 that gives you the same outcome odds. And the main reason for that is that you can't research as thoroughly about 3 events, as you can about 1 event.
Man, betting is not like science. The amount of effort you put into researching what the possible outcome of an event could be will never be enough. There are always unexpected circumstances that will blow away your conclusions. Really anything can happen that you couldn't foresee. And, also, how much money do you bet @1.90? Again, better to flip a coin.
1304  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 11, 2020, 10:03:30 AM
Since everything else was boring I read this and found it very interesting.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=26823.msg337145#msg337145

Oh, Pierre-Joseph, welcome back! We missed math and science. Confirmed.
1305  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Multi bets vs single bets on: November 11, 2020, 09:56:28 AM
I would be rather curious to know how you guys bet and how you make use of singles. Do you really believe in minimizing risk when placing single bets? It's like going all-in, you basically flip a coin, either you win or you lose. If you like that, keep on playing. That's not for me. Wink
1306  Economy / Gambling / Re: Sportsbooks that aren’t paying out on Biden winning the US Presidential Election on: November 11, 2020, 09:52:28 AM
Orbit (and thus Betfair Exchange, except Orbit isn't region blocked) currently has Biden at 1.10 and Trump at 10.5 to be the next president. PredictIt is also showing similar numbers. Prediction markets are generally considered sharp.



It's great to see sites like Sportsbet.io and Stake payout early (essentially as a promotion, since there's a non zero chance that Biden doesn't end up being president), but I personally wouldn't fault other sportsbooks for not paying out. It might seem like a clear victory for Biden if you look at mainstream media, but there's clearly a number of factors that somehow give Trump a 10% chance of winning.

Besides lawsuits/recounts/direct election effects, there's also the possibility that Biden wins, but dies and Kamala Harris becomes president (0.2% according to Betfair Exchange).
In 2000, it took five weeks to know the outcome of the presidential race that saw the infamous Gore v. Bush fight. Over that timeframe, there were recounts and court rulings. The story ended on December 12 when the Supreme Court decision effectively decided the presidential election.
Of course, we don't know the end of the story but I guess sportsbooks should have better prepared for a contested election scenario.
1307  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Multi bets vs single bets on: November 11, 2020, 09:05:16 AM
I don't understand why some of you are so into single bets. If you place single bets and go all-in I suggest you rather play a single dice roll. At least if you lose you would know that you were playing provably fair.
Once, I lost big on a single bet made on a champions league game: I was so sure of one team winning (odds were 1.12 playing home) and they eventually lost. Of course, I lost too. That's when I started playing multi bets only: I play less than $5 and sometimes I end up winning nice amounts.
No more single bets for me.
1308  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is doing Pump & Dump before the US Election results are finalized on: November 11, 2020, 08:56:39 AM
I don't think this is a P&D before the US Election results will be confirmed. Nonetheless, if that would be the case, I would welcome a nice price drop only to buy more as others have thought. We will not have many more opportunities to buy at lower prices in the future, so any price drop can be used to accumulate more. That's what I did in March for example when I was able to buy BTC at $5240.
1309  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Bitcoin and Gold Cannot Coexist, Says MicroStrategy CEO on: November 11, 2020, 08:41:56 AM
Michael Saylor is the CEO of business intelligence company MicroStrategy, which is heavily invested in Bitcoin. Today, Saylor suggested Bitcoin and gold aren’t so similar, contrary to the "digital gold" narrative. When Bitcoin is fully realized as an asset class, it will come at gold's expense, he claims.

More here https://decrypt.co/47813/bitcoin-gold-cannot-coexist-microstrategy-ceo

I wonder if Michael Saylor is on stealth-mode on this forum.
1310  Other / Meta / Re: Signatures gone? on: November 11, 2020, 08:37:31 AM
Same issue as before.

The uBlock team only removed the filter rule that was blocking the signatures. They still left the one that blocks every span element with the text "Advert".

It blocked the element because of this post: Advertising shiller spotted!

As suggested before, just disable the uBlock extension on the forum (clicking on the on/off button)...

And someone will probably have to go complain to them again.
So annoying! I saw that too (always on chrome latest with uBlock Origin activated). I was actually thinking of some funny graphic glitch as I have an old laptop but then I remembered to come here and...bingo!
I disabled uBlock on the forum, end of story.
1311  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⭐ BTCGOSU ⭐ Your Trusted Guide to the Best Bitcoin Casinos ⭐ on: November 10, 2020, 02:12:19 PM
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On a different note, many of you asked for it and here we go - Betnomi review published: https://www.btcgosu.com/review/betnomi/



And here is an update on our DuckDice review: https://www.btcgosu.com/review/duckdice/
FJ promo! Great one, I have never played there and I guess this is the right time to give it a try.
Betnomi review - Betnomi is trying to rise above the competition and they are pushing hard to make it in top 10. They launched a massive game on Nations League with some big prizes  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5287988.0

Duckdice - Being scammed big time by their unclear bonus requirements (changed along the way) in 2017 I can only give them red trust.
1312  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Everything you wanted to know about Grayscale BTC Trust but were afraid to ask! on: November 10, 2020, 02:03:50 PM
Holy Gray(l)scale is at it again: trying to own all the bitcoin production! I wonder how much of their activity influences the price and in what %.
Thomas Lee saw it before others in 2018: I remember his data got dismissed but they were just a little ahead of times.
https://twitter.com/fundstrat/status/988817606604881920
1313  Other / Meta / Re: Signatures gone? on: November 10, 2020, 01:38:43 PM
I am under Chrome latest version with uBlock Origin installed. I was getting mad at it without knowing what was the cause. For about a week I supposed it was the VPN to cause that because browsing the forum without it activated I was able to see sigs (but I now remember I was under Firefox with no adblockers).
Good to know what happened; I can go back to my fav browsing settings.
By the way, thanks logfiles
1314  Economy / Economics / Re: The Destruction Of The Euro on: November 10, 2020, 01:28:24 PM
I hope people realize. My motive for posting these doom and gloom OP articles.

Is to prevent unnecessary human suffering.

If the eurozone is broken, I would like people to acknowledge and fix it.

To prevent tragedies like the great depression and 2008 economic crisis from occurring again.

I hope that makes sense.
The truth is out there in simple and plain sight. It's up to the individual to take some time to learn what might be the consequences of relying on a system that is slowly crashing down. You can show people the way but you can't force them to cross the line and make a meaningful first step. If you take Bitcoin as an example, satoshi was damn right: " If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry."
What you say makes sense to those who understand.
1315  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-11-06] US authorities seize $1 billion in bitcoins on: November 10, 2020, 10:53:14 AM
Sci-fi mode ON
Imagine the possibility to take part in the auction as a community: we could reclaim ownership of those coins and avoid they will enter any institutional hands. Then those funds will go through many anonymity cycles via any privacy tool we prefer and all who contributed will get their share.
At the end of the process, we could use some of those funds to support Ross Ulbricht's freedom and that would be a great achievement.
Sci-fi Mode OFF

just dreaming Roll Eyes
1316  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: US 2020 Elections data, polls and bets on: November 10, 2020, 10:39:39 AM
I would love to see Trump winning his lawsuits and become president again only to see all those bet results crumble as clearly the way one can bet on events like that must be rethought. Can't wait for it, that would be hilarious!
There are other markets, as one site has put it, "side bets" still available of when and if he will concede the presidency.
Also will he be ousted out of the white house before the jets win a game or the steelers losing one. Cheesy
https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/news/politics/when-will-trump-concede-odds-after-ny-jets-win-game
What you can bet on is endless in this election.

But one other sportsbook odds provider has made the final result in biden's favor and declared him president since November 7th 11pm.
https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/politics/2020-us-presidential-election-odds
You can see the timeline of events since trump has been in the white til now.
There was even a bet available on impeachment available at the beginnning of the year.
Quite hilarious to read everything that has happened to this guy with being the one-in one-off president in office.
A film about this would be a proper way to make an exit out of the white house is all that is left to do for him. Grin
https://www.indiewire.com/2020/11/john-oliver-trump-presidency-house-of-cards-1234597592
This is funny! Like the old telenovelas, the Trump Biden election 2020 will entertain the public for some more time while some can still bet on very strange happenings! Still, my previous thought remains: it would be fantastic for the result to change in Trump's favour just for the sake of the craziness that could create.
1317  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 09, 2020, 05:44:08 PM
1318  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns [Last update: 05-Nov-20] on: November 09, 2020, 05:34:17 PM
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1319  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: US 2020 Elections data, polls and bets on: November 09, 2020, 05:28:00 PM
I would love to see Trump winning his lawsuits and become president again only to see all those bet results crumble as clearly the way one can bet on events like that must be rethought. Can't wait for it, that would be hilarious!
1320  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread on: November 09, 2020, 03:02:34 PM
snip
Another case could be due to VAR, so many penalties and dangerous free kicks have been awarded due to even simple fouls. Such fouls could have easily been avoided in the Pre-VAR era.
Since the existence of VAR there have been a lot of penalty kicks and free kicks that certain teams have gotten, but one of the most annoying things about VAR is when the game is over but the referee still decides to look at VAR. The game of football is not as exciting as it used to be where there was a lot of controversy and drama on the pitch, but now football is really closely watched so there is no drama at all in football. This is why team play is not as aggressive as it was before VAR.
I completely agree with you. Var killed the intrigue in football. He killed the beauty of the game. After scoring goals, you don’t know to rejoice or wait for the referee’s decision. However, there are some positive moments. There are few controversial moments. But I think they will not be able to completely remove them.
Have you guys ever watched a rugby match? In rugby, the main intervention points for a TMO [Television Match Official] are for an act of scoring or foul play. I do know that the tempo between rugby and football is completely different, with rugby aficionados having many more occasions of seeing the game interrupted (for scrums, line outs and injuries). But now that the technology has been embedded in football there's probably no going back. In rugby it works almost perfectly, football should learn a lot from it. Football referees have to become much better at integrating their judgement with VAR calls.
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