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13161  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MAX] MaxCoin - Alive and Kickin' on: May 21, 2014, 03:36:01 PM
THIS COIN IS DEAD!

1,282,929 dollar (the market cap of maxcoin) says you're full of shit.
Come on, look who you are talking to: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=513256.msg5704487
Look.

Apart from quoting a scammer or a troll :0 you have to agree that the market cap is going down , down and down.
I remember it being 4x times bigger a few months ago.

And this with an increasing number of coins on the market.
13162  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: QEX - the biggest quark coins market on: May 21, 2014, 03:31:01 PM
BTC-e is charging 5% for VISA and Mastercard withdrawals - which exchanges are charging 0.2-0.5%?

https://btc-e.com/news/201

https://www.btcxchange.ro/

Btw , you can withdraw directly to you bank account in most cases which can be linked to a visa card so I don't  understand why such high fees.
For 1000 euros it will be 50euros , compared to only 10.

https://www.btcxchange.ro/fees

I don't see VISA/Mastercard withdrawls on the list, only money transfers. VISA and Mastercard charge several % for accepting payment, and I would imagine that this is the case for sending in this case as well, which would be part of it.

Fair point on the bank transfers - not sure why they're higher.



I don't know to much about how things work in other part of the world but here in my country

I make a withdraw to my bank account , which has a visa card or mastercard  attached to it. It's the same thing and why bother with the high fees?
13163  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] [UNU] UNUM ***FREE IPO*** | POW+POS | 100% FREE IPO DISTRIBUTION! | on: May 21, 2014, 03:28:35 PM
Has the dev settled for an escrow or is the IPO idea dead?
Not that I'm interested in losing my coins on this.

We are doing a 100% FREE IPO Distribution. Please read our PRE-ANN thread for details.

You sure have a new species of coin there.

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Initial public offering (IPO) or stock market launch is a type of public offering where shares of stock in a company are sold to the general public, on a securities exchange, for the first time.
What the hell is a FREE IPO Distribution.

Just get rid of the word IPO from all the opening post , title etc.
13164  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] UniversalCoin (UNV) - The 0.01 BTC minimum value coin - on: May 21, 2014, 03:25:44 PM
The premine coins have been implied in a scam.  Will you withdraw them from circulation like you said you would, or not?

Nobody said anything about 'withdrawing' those coins. They said the pre-mined coins are in 'cold wallet'

Does this "cold wallet" mean they are ready to be dropped on the market as soon as there is one sucker placing a buy order?
13165  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BTCtalkcoin [TALK] - Pure POS - Multipool Ready! - AirDrop Coming Soon on: May 21, 2014, 03:24:28 PM
it will be almost impossible to create few active accounts

How it is impossible to create a few active accounts?
Look at the amount of people with very low activity here (1-20).

Just log 1 time on the forum do 14 posts during a two week period and you have an account.

Lot's of people also selling those accounts and even sr or hero member accounts.
13166  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: May 21, 2014, 03:22:19 PM
I read before that some plan on reducing the coins and altering the distribution model.
It sounds more like what the fed is doing not what the free market dictates.

The free market is the community and if it wants a fork, it will get a fork. Were doing the exact opposite of what the FED does by actually listening to the people that use the currency


Let me know how are you going to achieve a fair voting.
1 vote per person or 1 vote per mazacoin held?
13167  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DOUG] Dougcoin - Quark based | KGW | 10240 CPB | OpenSSL-1.0.1g on: May 21, 2014, 03:15:47 PM
haven't see the dev online since may 10
any new news?

may be he had left the coin.

I say, he should just implement inflation instead of PoS.

And reduce PastBlocksMass in KGW, that'll make it 51% proof.

Better drop KGW altogether , it seems the number of flaws in it keep multiplying.
I would personally move to digishield which currently has no issues.

13168  Other / Politics & Society / Re: VISA & MASTERCARD blocked Russians from accessing their money on: May 21, 2014, 03:14:19 PM
Russia won't accept bitcoin, ever.

Too early to say that. In the early stages of Bitcoin (especially in 2011 and 2012), Russians constituted for a large part of the Bitcoiners (IMO, they constituted close to 25% of the Bitcoiners at that time). The Russian government is not pro-Bitcoin, as of now. But they have not yet banned Bitcoin, as China and Thailand has done.

Thailand hasn't banned anything related to bitcoin , they were just poor translated news and China hasn't banned bitcoin usage just trading.
13169  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: QEX - the biggest quark coins market on: May 21, 2014, 03:12:03 PM
BTC-e is charging 5% for VISA and Mastercard withdrawals - which exchanges are charging 0.2-0.5%?

https://btc-e.com/news/201

https://www.btcxchange.ro/

Btw , you can withdraw directly to you bank account in most cases which can be linked to a visa card so I don't  understand why such high fees.
For 1000 euros it will be 50euros , compared to only 10.
13170  Economy / Economics / Re: Lets hoard. on: May 21, 2014, 03:05:51 PM
Sign that bitcoin is not healthy if it is mainly use for speculating.

And you got this impression from what?
Juts because people only talk about price in the speculation subforum?

Bitcoin is still at it's beginning , just have some patience and it will show you how healthy it is.
13171  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: May 21, 2014, 12:23:19 PM
Well most of things is gonna be changed ... we are working on developers team for maza, we will fork mazacoin and stabilize price finally

Not sure If I'm reading this right but... how do you think this fork "will stabilize price" ?

I read before that some plan on reducing the coins and altering the distribution model.
It sounds more like what the fed is doing not what the free market dictates.

Rather than forking and spooning the coin , why not actively getting involved and promote the coin... or if that is not possible with Payu still in charge ... scalp him!


The main MZC problem is that itīs extremly mined out ( you canīt keep price high when miners always sell more you have) .... When you reduce supply / miners reward than we will stay higher without this problem

Aren't you making bagholders richer with this move?
The people who have 2% of the coins will have 4% of the coins ? Not a good sign for newcomers.
13172  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [Poll] Should the minimum wage be raised? on: May 21, 2014, 12:18:10 PM
This is exactly what a minimum wage is doing to prevent the situation.
It forces the company to pay a minimum wage even if people are willing to do it for less.

There are advantages as well as disadvantages. Recently I have noticed the trend by several employers, of using cheap illegal labor. This results in the unemployment of the well-qualified native citizens. Minimum wage, prevents this. But at the same time, it encourages unhealthy practices, such as blackmailing by employee unions.

The minimum wage doesn't prevent this , it is the cause of it. If they would be able to pay legally less , they will do it legally , if they are forced to pay something that makes no sense to their production cost, they will employ on the blackmarket.
13173  Other / Politics & Society / Re: VISA & MASTERCARD blocked Russians from accessing their money on: May 21, 2014, 12:11:33 PM
I don't know. Seems like Russian Duma backpedals, promising to soften the deposit demands... Sad
http://ria.ru/economy/20140521/1008678543.html


The google translation makes no sense for me unfortunately.
Is there a deadline on June 1st for this issue?

If they don't make the deposit they will have to force shut-down?

No, what it says is that the lawmakers can reduce the required level of deposit by the 1st of July, which is the deadline for Visa and MasterCard to Make the deposits.
Visa and MC are asking for the size of the deposit to be reduced and this is being discussed at the moment. The new law comes into power on the 1st of July, and the lawmakers say they will reach a compromise by then, and they refuse to comment any further.

Thanks for the explanation.
But it makes no sense for them to declare that. How can they be so sure.

It can only mean that they have already settled for a smaller amount or even made deal behind the back , requiring them to actual deposit that sum but giving them some privileges in return so both sides will be happy.The politicians acting like patriots and the visa/mastercard team happy about the payouts.Probably they encountered a lot of problems while developing a national system or they didn't had the time.


now russia block VISA&MASTER

bye bye USD, BTC is future

^This will have to wait.
13174  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: May 21, 2014, 12:04:19 PM
Is there any report on how many people have lost their lives from the start of the year?

I see daily reports of people getting shot and I'm sure those are only the few in the cases where bodies get discovered.
How many crimes are actually happening in the night , made by gangs with no involvement in the fight for independence , just out for money ?
13175  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [Poll] Should the minimum wage be raised? on: May 21, 2014, 12:01:19 PM
Market is run by supply and demand.

If someone else can do a job for cheaper, business will use the cheaper labor.


This is exactly what a minimum wage is doing to prevent the situation.
It forces the company to pay a minimum wage even if people are willing to do it for less.
13176  Other / Politics & Society / Re: VISA & MASTERCARD blocked Russians from accessing their money on: May 21, 2014, 11:58:53 AM
I don't know. Seems like Russian Duma backpedals, promising to soften the deposit demands... Sad
http://ria.ru/economy/20140521/1008678543.html


The google translation makes no sense for me unfortunately.
Is there a deadline on June 1st for this issue?

If they don't make the deposit they will have to force shut-down?
13177  Economy / Speculation / Re: URGENT, Bitcoin is on the verge of collapse !!! on: May 21, 2014, 11:48:49 AM
I just had to post here.

So , this thread is urgent for quite a while , bitcoin is collapsing up 50$ in a day and the op is still posting FUD in the forum.

Will you do the same even if we go back to 1000$?
Probably yes.
13178  Economy / Speculation / Re: We need to pass $547 to see a REAL jump! on: May 21, 2014, 11:46:05 AM
So, according to OP's logic, today's jump from 450 to 495 is a FAKE jump?

This is how bears in denial see jumps.

Or a permabull angry that it didn't hit 300k already.
13179  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Cost of Money Transfer to Russia, China, Uganda etc on: May 21, 2014, 11:43:52 AM
Several bitcoin commentators claim that transferring money to non-western countries costs 5-10%. I can believe this is this case with the most expensive options. But what is the most convenient way (except from bitcoin) that most people use?

Would be interesting to learn some real examples.

Even bitcoin is not that much of an option sometimes.
Let's assume somebody buy some bitcoin right now at 500$ and sends them to me.

To use them I would have to go to localbitcoin , no point in going again to an exchange , right?
The best price I could get via cash (right now) is ~430$ and for national bank transfer is 420$.

So , not that cheap.
Plus the drive to the city would cost me an additional 30 euros.
13180  Economy / Economics / Re: Lets hoard. on: May 21, 2014, 11:39:38 AM
Let's spend , buy , spend.
I think this is a better plan that hoarding , if you want to help the coin.

If you're just for profits  , HODL till it reaches 10k.
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